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betsey

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Mar 16, 2006, 6:24:01 PM3/16/06
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hi everyone--
katie, my sixth grader has been assigned a history project. she has to
be a famous person from world history (NOT US history) and make a video
talking about "her life"....we are trying to come up with a woman from
world history that she could be, that she could incorporate macho the
wonder horse into.....got any ideas????

betsey

Emily Brooks

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Mar 16, 2006, 6:35:57 PM3/16/06
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"betsey" <twox...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Joan of Arc?

Emily


Dave Smith

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Mar 16, 2006, 6:29:41 PM3/16/06
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betsey wrote:

Catherine the Great
:-)


Hunter

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Mar 16, 2006, 6:47:42 PM3/16/06
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>> katie, my sixth grader has been assigned a history project. she has to
>> be a famous person from world history (NOT US history) and make a video
>> talking about "her life"....we are trying to come up with a woman from
>> world history that she could be, that she could incorporate macho the
>> wonder horse into.....got any ideas????

Lady Godiva.

hunter
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but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy shit...what a ride!"

Brian Whatcott

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Mar 16, 2006, 6:54:51 PM3/16/06
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Hmmm...Lady Godiva, of course. Ekaterina not quite suitable.
A number of British Queens if she has a thing for side-saddle.
Emily Wilding Davison possibly, though she was on the wrong side of
the horse, I fear.

Brian Whatcott Altus OK

Macnutt

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Mar 16, 2006, 7:39:18 PM3/16/06
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Lady Anne Blunt?

wka...@vic.com

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Mar 16, 2006, 7:40:12 PM3/16/06
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On 16 Mar 2006 15:24:01 -0800, "betsey" <twox...@aol.com> wrote:

A question: intially you said it had to be a "famous person." Then
it morphed to a "she." Is it certain that it's a "she" or is that an
overlay?

Bill Kambic
Haras Lucero, Kingston, TN
Mangalarga Marchador: Uma Raça, Uma Paixão

ako...@san.rr.com

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Mar 16, 2006, 7:42:44 PM3/16/06
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My ancestor, Wilhelmina von Schulenberg, German mistress of King George
the whichever, who loved horses, was a good rider, was disliked by the
English, and dubbed the Maypole due to her height and slimness?

>;->

Abby

betsey

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Mar 16, 2006, 8:02:21 PM3/16/06
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hi bill--
the "she" was simply because katie's a she...she doesnt want to be joan
of arc (katie goes to parochial school and says NO SAINTS!)...she did
think of alexander the great and bucephelus (oh, i butchered that
name).

and to those who suggested entirely inappropriate names-cathering the
great (no, she didnt really die the way we all think she did....) or
lady godiva...c'mon...be nice, this is my kid!!

Fran Bragg

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Mar 16, 2006, 8:09:54 PM3/16/06
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"betsey" <twox...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Princess Anne? She is a little more contemporary, and competed in the
Olympics!

Fran
>


Jim Casey

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Mar 16, 2006, 8:16:36 PM3/16/06
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betsey wrote:

> ... katie, my sixth grader has been assigned a history project. she has to
> be a famous person from world history (NOT US history) ...

Isaak Dinesen (a.k.a. Karen Blixen), heroine of the movie "Out of Africa"
and the author of the book of the same title.

Beryl Markham, who was the "other woman" in "Out of Africa."

The female riders of "The Canterbury Tales."

Generic Amazons.

- Jim

wka...@vic.com

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Mar 16, 2006, 8:18:00 PM3/16/06
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On 16 Mar 2006 17:02:21 -0800, "betsey" <twox...@aol.com> wrote:

>hi bill--
>the "she" was simply because katie's a she...she doesnt want to be joan
>of arc (katie goes to parochial school and says NO SAINTS!)...she did
>think of alexander the great and bucephelus (oh, i butchered that
>name).

How about foreigners who had a substantial impact on the U.S.?

Baron Von Stubben (who wasn't a baron and wasn't named Von Stubben but
who was crucial to Geo. Washington's ultimate victory).

Jean Lafitte, the pirate who help Andy Jackson whip the British as
Chalmette.

Francisco "Pancho" Villa, alternately a bandit an a patriot.

>and to those who suggested entirely inappropriate names-cathering the
>great (no, she didnt really die the way we all think she did....) or
>lady godiva...c'mon...be nice, this is my kid!!

For some females:

Margaret Thatcher

Golda Meir

Indira Ghandi

Ben Turner

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Mar 16, 2006, 8:26:35 PM3/16/06
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On 16 Mar 2006 15:24:01 -0800, "betsey" <twox...@aol.com> wrote:

Alicia Meynell, first female jockey, English, early 1800s

--
Best,
Ben Turner, Mare's Reach


Fran Bragg

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Mar 16, 2006, 8:27:56 PM3/16/06
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I've always been interested in the life of Marian Evans, otherwise known as
George Eliot, who was a writer in the 1800's. Don't know about a connection
with horses, other than what was required by daily life in the 1800's, but
she had an interesting life, and quite a different one from most ladies of
her time! Maybe too radical for parochrial school though! :)

Fran


Hunter

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Mar 16, 2006, 9:13:02 PM3/16/06
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On 16 Mar 2006 17:02:21 -0800, "betsey" <twox...@aol.com> wrote:

>and to those who suggested entirely inappropriate names-cathering the
>great (no, she didnt really die the way we all think she did....) or
>lady godiva...c'mon...be nice, this is my kid!!

I said Lady Godiva. I was thinking flesh colored tights and long
flowing hair....

Hunter

Dr Corinne B Leek

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Mar 16, 2006, 9:21:52 PM3/16/06
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On 16 Mar 2006 15:24:01 -0800, "betsey" <twox...@aol.com> wrote:

Boadicea (sometimes spelled Boudicca) kicked some serious Roman butt.
Then, as tomorrow is St Paddy's Day, there's Queen Maeve.
Pharoah Hatshepsut and her charioteers.
Or how about detailing the ordinary life of a peasant woman using a
horse to do her chores in the Middle Ages, Assyria, Rome, whenever?
And to counter the the claim that a peasant woman isn't "famous", who
else actually did all the work? <VBG>

Corinne, trying to help...
Carrot Gin Fizz Still Crew, certain that it was a mare who invented
the Still...
Mark VIVIVI, pointing out Madame Curie and her contribution to the
medical field...

--
*** Conserve Energy: Laughter is easier than Anger!
*** cl...@ns.sympatico.ca

Joyleen Seymour

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Mar 16, 2006, 10:05:13 PM3/16/06
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John Hasler

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Mar 16, 2006, 9:51:41 PM3/16/06
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Corinne writes:
> Or how about detailing the ordinary life of a peasant woman using a horse
> to do her chores in the Middle Ages, Assyria, Rome, whenever?

Such a peasant woman would have been extremely unlikely to have a horse.
She might have been pulling the plow herself, though.
--
John Hasler Boarding, Lessons, Training
jo...@dhh.gt.org Hay, Jumps, Cavallox
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA

lizzard woman

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Mar 16, 2006, 10:32:11 PM3/16/06
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"Jim Casey" <sea...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
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Those are good.

My suggestion would be mitochondrial eve. She lived in Africa. I think
that would be the coolest thing.

--
sharon

"The net of science covers the empirical universe: what is it made of (fact)
and why does it work this way (theory). The net of religion extends over
questions of moral meaning and value. These two magisteria do not overlap,
nor do they encompass all inquiry (consider, for starters, the magisterium
of art and the meaning of beauty). To cite the arch clichés, we get the age
of rocks, and religion retains the rock of ages; we study how the heavens
go, and they determine how to go to heaven."

"Nonoverlapping Magisteria" by Stephen Jay Gould, 1997

Karen

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Mar 16, 2006, 10:43:16 PM3/16/06
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Question: If its "world" history, why cant it be someone from U.S.?????

Barbara Bailey

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Mar 16, 2006, 10:46:41 PM3/16/06
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Bortai, wife of Genghis Khan.

While there's not much out there specifically about _her_,
there's enough about the Mongols in general and her husband and
sons that Katie could come up with something interesting, I
think. Unfortunately, the reference bookshelves have mostly been
packed for the upcoming move, but offhand, Harold Lamb has a
decent YA book on the Mongols. If she wants to go this route,
feel free to email me, and I'll make sure that I don't box up any
more of the books on the Mongols that we've got, and give her
whatever information I can.

Barb

Laurel Reddick

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Mar 16, 2006, 11:17:19 PM3/16/06
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On 16 Mar 2006 15:24:01 -0800, "betsey" <twox...@aol.com> wrote:

Hi Betsey. How about Robyn Smith, Fred Astaire's second wife, who was
the first female jockey to win a stake's race? It would be fairly
easy to dress Katie as a jockey and Macho as a race horse, and film
them racing. http://famous.adoption.com/famous/smith-robyn.html

Or if it absolutely cannot be US History. Perhaps the first English
female champion apprentice jockey, Hayley Turner.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/4414864.stm

Of do you need really famous types?
Laurel

Laurel Reddick

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Mar 16, 2006, 11:41:15 PM3/16/06
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On 16 Mar 2006 15:24:01 -0800, "betsey" <twox...@aol.com> wrote:
A couple more ideas-- Katie as Elinor McGrath the first US vet and
Macho as her patient? Katie as Dian Fossey and Macho and friends in
gorilla suits? Can you sew? <g> Obviously I've got time on my hands
tonight.

Laurel

betsey

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Mar 17, 2006, 8:05:44 AM3/17/06
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thanks everybody! i'm going to run these all past her,,,,who in turn,
may have to run past her teacher. and yes, laurel, i do sew...i wonder
just HOW difficult to dress up a horse as a gorilla?????

i love the idea of Khan's wife, as well as a host of others---boadicea,
ect. we kept coming up with the obvious american ones---annie oakley,
calamity jane, ect.....

betsey

Ruth Baltopoulos

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Mar 17, 2006, 8:33:55 AM3/17/06
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betsey wrote:

Lady Godiva?

ermmmm....

Annie Oakley?
--
Ruth B

CMNewell

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Mar 17, 2006, 9:12:03 AM3/17/06
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Judie

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Mar 17, 2006, 10:16:11 AM3/17/06
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Karen wrote:
> Question: If its "world" history, why cant it be someone from U.S.?????

Yeah, I was thinking "Art History" and Georgia O'Keefe. She had a ranch
in Taos, NM and rode her horse until she was very old. Not sure the
actual age but I know she did not even move to Taos until she was 64
and she died there when she was 98.

Judie

Brian Whatcott

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Mar 17, 2006, 1:13:08 PM3/17/06
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On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 09:12:03 -0500, CMNewell <mingl...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Gertrude Bell.
>http://www.gerty.ncl.ac.uk/


We could certainly use a Miss Bell right now.
In the mold of El Lawrence, I'd think

Brian Whatcott Altus OK

Linda Harms

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Mar 17, 2006, 3:16:14 PM3/17/06
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In article <1142551440.9...@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
twox...@aol.com says...

> hi everyone--
> katie, my sixth grader has been assigned a history project. she has to
> be a famous person from world history (NOT US history) and make a video
> talking about "her life"....we are trying to come up with a woman from
> world history that she could be, that she could incorporate macho the
> wonder horse into.....got any ideas????
>
> betsey
>
>

I recently saw this PBS documentary on the Amazon women warriors.

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/case_amazon/index.html

IIRC they were thought to be a Greek myth, but now archaeologists are
finding evidence that they did exist. It is believed that they migrated
to what is now Russia.

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Linda Harms
New York, NY

Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

Macbeth, Act 5 Scene 5

JC Dill

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Mar 19, 2006, 9:32:20 PM3/19/06
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On 16 Mar 2006 15:24:01 -0800, "betsey" <twox...@aol.com> wrote:

>hi everyone--
>katie, my sixth grader has been assigned a history project. she has to
>be a famous person from world history (NOT US history) and make a video
>talking about "her life"....we are trying to come up with a woman from
>world history that she could be, that she could incorporate macho the
>wonder horse into.....got any ideas????

Anna Sewell, author of Black Beauty:

http://www.bibliomania.com/0/0/42/frameset.html

jc

Shirin

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Mar 19, 2006, 10:58:50 PM3/19/06
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betsey wrote:
> hi everyone--
> katie, my sixth grader has been assigned a history project. she has to
> be a famous person from world history (NOT US history) and make a video
> talking about "her life"....we are trying to come up with a woman from
> world history that she could be, that she could incorporate macho the
> wonder horse into.....got any ideas????
>
> betsey

Lady Hester Stanhope? (Rah-tha obscure, but Queen Hester is an
interesting woman...)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Hester_Stanhope

If you had a wagon and five other horses and could teach your daughter
to drive a team in time for the video: Maud Younger

http://womenshistory.about.com/library/bio/blbio_younger_maud.htm

And then if you like costumes, you could dress her as a man who needs a
horse in order to be famous--Dick Turpin the famous highwayman?

I always wanted to meet The Scarlet Pimpernel or Dick Turpin and
convince either one that they were nothing without me as a faithful
sidekick, ready to groom black steeds at a moment's notice.

betsey

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Mar 21, 2006, 7:21:33 AM3/21/06
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hi everyone...

my daughter campaigned heavily under "she was world famous" to be annie
oakley with her history teacher. Mr. L is a pushover, and just finally
rolled his eyes and said "ok, ok, i give up...BE annie oakley".
needless to say, the kid is thrilled. she is now working on her trick
roping <g> skills, and plans to do her video with Macho, the wonder
horse....

betsey

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