Horse portrait... question for the resident artists
lizzard woman
background. Or visa versa. I found a very talented person whose work is
extremely powerful.
My choices are:
1. pen and ink
2. graphite
3. prismacolor
4. water color
I almost can't decide! I want something that is very true, that will show
all the quirks of his conformation (wacky feet, cow hocks, etc.). But all
the media examples show that level of detail. So I can't decide!
I'm leaning towards graphite or prismacolor. But the other two media are so
beautiful too!
Are there any significant differences in how long these media last? I'm
assuming they all last a long time.
Thanks in advance,
sharon
betsey
one of the key's to making it last is all in the framing..using acid
free paper, ect. make sure you take it someplace good to be framed!
i love watercolors myself. i'm sorry i can't remember what color
pancake is...anything that you really want in color?
i hope you post a photo of it when it's done....i'd love to see it, and
i bet everyone else will too.
lizzard woman
"betsey" <twox...@aol.com> wrote in message
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| sharon..
| one of the key's to making it last is all in the framing..using acid
| free paper, ect. make sure you take it someplace good to be framed!
Ah okay. I know zip about this.
| i love watercolors myself. i'm sorry i can't remember what color
| pancake is...anything that you really want in color?
Dark bay w/ blaze.
| i hope you post a photo of it when it's done....i'd love to see it, and
| i bet everyone else will too.
I will. I can't wait until it's done! I'm so excited!
--
sharon
"You smart people are always coming up with stuff to baffle regular folks to
justify a paycheck." -- David H (tongue in cheek)
betsey
lizzard woman wrote:
> "betsey" <twox...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> | sharon..
> | one of the key's to making it last is all in the framing..using acid
> | free paper, ect. make sure you take it someplace good to be framed!
>
> Ah okay. I know zip about this.
>
sharon-
not that i know much more, but i admit, i was a needlework fag--did all
kinds of what they called linen and counted thread work. so, lots of
things to be framed.
the framers do have acid free paper and matting. also, if you choose
to put glass over it, you can get non glare kind. a nd one question i
would ask regarding glass, is should the glass be touching the art, or
not. i know in needlework, it should not, they put little spacers.
bay with white....i will admit, i still love watercolors....to me,
sometimes prismacolors can look to commercial arty, but that is just my
opinion, and it all depends on the artist....
betsey
harum...@yahoo.com
betsey wrote:
> bay with white....i will admit, i still love watercolors....to me,
> sometimes prismacolors can look to commercial arty, but that is just my
> opinion, and it all depends on the artist....
I love watercolors. What are prismacolors?
ttfn,
jan
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will also need to keep it out of direct sunlight. Light will affect the
life of colors...
Cappy
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lizzard woman
"Cappy" <cappy _ p @ juno.com> wrote in message
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| Along w/ the museum quality mounting (acid free) that Betsey mentioned,
you
| will also need to keep it out of direct sunlight. Light will affect the
| life of colors...
Ah okay thanks.
Which media, among the listed, would be least susceptible to photic damage?
lizzard woman
"aintli...@yup.com" <harum...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Apparently they are high quality, high-intensity, archival-quality colored
pencils. Not the stuff you buy for school kids.
Dr Corinne B Leek
<kimosa...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>I'm having a portrait done of Pancake. A full body and a head shot in the
>background. Or visa versa. I found a very talented person whose work is
>extremely powerful.
>
>My choices are:
>
>1. pen and ink
>2. graphite
>3. prismacolor
>4. water color
I'm speaking as an artist, and suggest the following guidlelines for
all media and for everyone interested:
Be very sure that all the above media (for that matter, *any* media)
are done on archival, acid-free supports. Mat and frame with the
same. Ensure that you *don't* use plexiglass or some other cover than
glass (static cling happens and can pull pigment, especially pastel,
off the ground). Hang out of direct sun. Even the ink. If the work
is on tinted paper, e.g. Canson Mi-Teintes, the paper itself can fade
in direct light.
Often framing can cost more than the original art work itself.
Oil and acrylic do not need glass, nor matting.
Pastel needs spacers between the mat and the work since pastel will
continue to drop small particles of pigment and you need the spacer so
it doesn't fall on the mat. I personally don't use fixative on pastel
as it can cause yellowing, but I use it on graphite (pencil) and
charcoal.
Ask if varnishing is done on oil, as it should be sealed with a good
varnish.
Acrylics, I'm not so sure of - not a medium I've dabbled in.
As to which media you choose, decide based on examples of the artist's
work on the same type of subject, i.e. horses.
Coloured pencils can be quite good, but some artists leave the pencil
strokes very obvious, which can be a good effect or not, as your taste
demands.
Check what you think of the artist's handling of colours - flamboyant
or restrained.
Watercolour can be very wonderful, but there is sometimes a
"watercolour look" that you must like.
Pen & ink can be very effective. It is a challenging medium and not
for the faint of heart. It does not lend itself well to detailed
tonal differences, but does achieveclose to it with other effects
(e.g. crosshatching).
Graphite can be very nice as far as overall accuracy/feel of the
subject. It can also be very powerful.
The medium chosen is entirely to the commissioner's taste as long as
the artist is competent and produces the consistent quality in their
works in that medium that the commissioner likes.
Ask the artist if they will be wanting to do sketches from life or if
they will be taking their own photos. Working from someone else's
photos does not give as real a feel to the finished product, so they
should take their own, not work from yours. Besides, photos are
inherently 2D and human eyeballs are 3D. There is more info picked up
by the human eyeball that can be remembered from the photo but that
the photo can not impart. Trust me on that one. If you are
commissioning a portrait with tack, then the photos should include
that. (Obviously.)
Some time spent by the artist observing your horse free would be a
Good Thing, but not absolutely necessary. If it were me, I'd want to
observe their movement and physical attitude as it plays a part in
their personality. Quick sketches done from life are a Very Good
Thing.
Just MNSHO.
Corinne, who does people...
Carrot Gin Fizz Still Crew, who do Fizz...
Mark VIVIVI, who does fume real well and is now so doing...
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lizzard woman
"Dr Corinne B Leek" <cl...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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(snip)
| As to which media you choose, decide based on examples of the artist's
| work on the same type of subject, i.e. horses.
I've seen examples in each medium. I still can't decide they are all so
good.
(snip)
| Ask the artist if they will be wanting to do sketches from life or if
| they will be taking their own photos. Working from someone else's
| photos does not give as real a feel to the finished product, so they
| should take their own, not work from yours. Besides, photos are
| inherently 2D and human eyeballs are 3D. There is more info picked up
| by the human eyeball that can be remembered from the photo but that
| the photo can not impart. Trust me on that one. If you are
| commissioning a portrait with tack, then the photos should include
| that. (Obviously.)
| Some time spent by the artist observing your horse free would be a
| Good Thing, but not absolutely necessary. If it were me, I'd want to
| observe their movement and physical attitude as it plays a part in
| their personality. Quick sketches done from life are a Very Good
| Thing.
The artist was at my barn all winter with her horse. She's a beautiful
rider and has ridden Pete. When I said I didn't think I could take quality
pictures, she offered to take them to work from.
The tack question is up in the air. I can't decide if it would be better
with or without.
The problem I am having is that I have so many good choices on a number of
issues. I have to restraint myself from getting two done in two different
media just because the artist is so talented. I was bowled over when I saw
the work.
Hunter
<kimosa...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>The problem I am having is that I have so many good choices on a number of
>issues. I have to restraint myself from getting two done in two different
>media just because the artist is so talented. I was bowled over when I saw
>the work.
Does the artist have a website so we can look at his/her work in the
different mediums?
Hunter
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JC Dill
<kimosa...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>I'm having a portrait done of Pancake. A full body and a head shot in the
>background. Or visa versa. I found a very talented person whose work is
>extremely powerful.
>
>My choices are:
>
>1. pen and ink
>2. graphite
>3. prismacolor
>4. water color
It would be very useful to see samples of this person's work. Can you
share a name or website link?
jc
--
"The nice thing about a mare is you get to ride a lot
of different horses without having to own that many."
~ Eileen Morgan of The Mare's Nest, PA
Jim Casey
> ... The tack question is up in the air....
I vote for "birthday suit." Unless the portrait is going to show you
riding, tack add nothing to the beauty of a horse.
- Jim
Dr Corinne B Leek
wrote:
Actually, truth be known, I agree.
But. Hey. Diff'rent strokes 'n all.
Some might like that the dressage saddle evokes their discipline.
Corinne, who likes drawing/painting humans in birthday suits...
Carrot Gin Fizz Still Crew, who like their Fizz...
Mark VIVIVI, who'd like to have an ammo hauler, sigh...
Emily Brooks
>
> the framers do have acid free paper and matting. also, if you choose
> to put glass over it, you can get non glare kind. a nd one question i
> would ask regarding glass, is should the glass be touching the art, or
> not. i know in needlework, it should not, they put little spacers.
>
If you choose/need glass, if there is any stand-off from the piece you do
NOT want non-glare. And even if it is (nearly) flush, non-glare glass stills
affects the clarity/cripsness of the viewed item. (Voice of experience - and
the frame shop replaced the glass no charge because their "advisor" didn't.
Framed item is nearly 2'x3'x6"- wasn't cheap to correct.)
Emily