Young Horse Eye Candy For A Monday
Sue Leopold
http://www.psi-auktion.de/en/psi-auction/psi-auction-2009/welcomenews/
Stedinger son out of a Brentano II (think Brentina) granddaughter. I
love Stedinger (love me some Landadel) and the "B" line gives
rideability:
<http://www.psi-auktion.de/en/psi-auction/psi-catalogue-2009/dressage-ho
rses-2009/?psiauktion=168&cHash=acfe2a05db>
The golden cross of the "R" line on Donnerhall - and the D in this case
is through Don Schufro. Linebred to Ramino so may be a little spicy. But
lovely:
<http://www.psi-auktion.de/en/psi-auction/psi-catalogue-2009/dressage-ho
rses-2009/?psiauktion=171&cHash=d11d40cd6e>
Sex-balanced linebreed to Donnerhall via one of the most successful
Sandro Hit sons Sir Donnerhall. Has a bit of the Sandro HIt walk (they
are not the best) but still a very nice young horse and the Donnerhalls
come by their rep for rideability and aptitude for higher level work
honestly.
http://www.psi-auktion.de/en/psi-auction/psi-catalogue-200
9/dressage-horses-2009/?psiauktion=179&cHash=e3591f9b53
OK, enough of this dressage stuff. On to the jumpers:
I covered the photo thumbnails and picked totally on breeding. Here's
my picks:
Sex-balanced Corde descendent through Contender on the damside.
Motherline through Silvio I (Shutterfly). Sireline the CordexCapitol
cross. This is international level breeding. The video does not
disappoint. Perfect technique, scope galore and uphill gallop. Yum.
<http://www.psi-auktion.de/en/psi-auction/psi-catalogue-2009/showjumping
-horses-2009/?psiauktion=202&cHash=823e7c2e78>
Dobel's Cento (CapitolxCorde) - one of Capitol's most successful sons
out of a Quick Star (Galoubet A) mare. You all know how I love Galoubet
so naturally I looked at him. Huge scope, good technique, outrageous
hind end. Capitol gives good rideability. Nice, harmonious build.
<http://www.psi-auktion.de/en/psi-auction/psi-catalogue-2009/showjumping
-horses-2009/?psiauktion=220&cHash=86a73604ec>
OK, I'm not sure who had the guts to cross Baloubet de Rouet on a Sandro
line mare, but oh boy. Tough? Yes Unconventional style? Yes. Scope?
Oh baby, lets go canter some 4'0" jumps. Holy moly!
<http://www.psi-auktion.de/en/psi-auction/psi-catalogue-2009/showjumping
-horses-2009/?psiauktion=210&cHash=089cd01049>
Getting your dose of Baloubet through a Contender mare tones the ride
down a lot. Damside Ladykiller close up by a Caletto I son. Oh yeah.
Love this mare. Scope and great technique.
<http://www.psi-auktion.de/en/psi-auction/psi-catalogue-2009/showjumping
-horses-2009/?psiauktion=219&cHash=f483b1b49a>
Approved, licensed Holsteiner stallion. Can see why. Beautiful horse
btw. Wish they would list the Stamms on the Holsteiners. The motherlines
are so very important in Holsteiner breeding:
http://www.psi-auktion.de/en/psi-auction/psi-catalogue-2009/showjumping-
horses-2009/?psiauktion=221&cHash=6ea598a9a6
And as an addendum. This is why I just do not like Stakkato. The
offspring is just so weak-looking:
<http://www.psi-auktion.de/en/psi-auction/psi-catalogue-2009/showjumping
-horses-2009/?psiauktion=208&cHash=40fbc20a7c>
<http://www.psi-auktion.de/en/psi-auction/psi-catalogue-2009/showjumping
-horses-2009/?psiauktion=201&cHash=c14d0260fb>
Tara
news:1j9mkkq.1kyg6g1o2o97eN%svle...@earthlink.net...
>
> Sex-balanced linebreed to Donnerhall via one of the most successful
> Sandro Hit sons Sir Donnerhall. Has a bit of the Sandro HIt walk (they
> are not the best) but still a very nice young horse and the Donnerhalls
> come by their rep for rideability and aptitude for higher level work
> honestly.
>
> http://www.psi-auktion.de/en/psi-auction/psi-catalogue-200
> 9/dressage-horses-2009/?psiauktion=179&cHash=e3591f9b53
THIS is my daughter's next horse. Anyone wanna loan me money?
Tara
Sue Leopold
Champagne taste, beer pocketbook. That's me!
If you find that person, I'll take the Baloubet son. :-D
AKogler
Well thanks Sue, just what I need to see, right before Christmas! when
Jurgen asks what I want, Ill just send him the link. Ha!
So, missy, a few months ago I got a new horse in. He is a Hannoverian,
improted as a three yr old, Malve dam, Ramiros Son sire. Give me the
rundown and then Ill tell you about him >;->
TIA
Abby
Sue Leopold
> On Nov 23, 5:59 am, svleop...@earthlink.net (Sue Leopold) wrote:
>
> Well thanks Sue, just what I need to see, right before Christmas! when
> Jurgen asks what I want, Ill just send him the link. Ha!
Do I owe you a new keyboard due to drooling? :-)
> So, missy, a few months ago I got a new horse in. He is a Hannoverian,
> improted as a three yr old, Malve dam, Ramiros Son sire. Give me the
> rundown and then Ill tell you about him >;->
Hanoverian lines are not my forte but I'll try.
Ramiro's Son is a Holsteiner approved into Hanoverian. Ramiro is
one of the truly great jumping sires. Can be quirky. Lots of scope,
stride. Very careful. Throws good technique.
Is the Malve the mare by the Anglo-Arab Matcho? Lots of
blood on the top with a line to Welcome on the bottomside.
Umm, a guess here. Modern type? Moderate to good size.
Good jumper. Can *move*
How close? Any pix?
Tom & Win
A real treat for the eyes for sure.
Winnie
Dawn J-L
> PSI Auction:
> The golden cross of the "R" line on Donnerhall - and the D in this case
> is through Don Schufro. Linebred to Ramino so may be a little spicy. But
> lovely:
>
> <http://www.psi-auktion.de/en/psi-auction/psi-catalogue-2009/dressage-ho
> rses-2009/?psiauktion=171&cHash=d11d40cd6e>
Of all the dressage horses you posted, this one had the most correct
trot with the hind legs in synch with the forelegs. I like him.
>
>
> Approved, licensed Holsteiner stallion. Can see why. Beautiful horse
> btw. Wish they would list the Stamms on the Holsteiners. The motherlines
> are so very important in Holsteiner breeding:
>
> http://www.psi-auktion.de/en/psi-auction/psi-catalogue-2009/showjumping-
> horses-2009/?psiauktion=221&cHash=6ea598a9a6
>
Be still my heart.
--Dawn JL
AKogler
Thank you! I knew you had some insights.
Yes, the Malve is by Matcho.
He is 12 now. I got him last winter. He is biggish, prolly 17 or 17.1,
big bodied, actually kinda long backed and flat crouped, kinda old
style. His grandpa was much more handsome than his papa, who is
described as 'making up in heart what he lacks in looks' sort of
comments. Hee!
He is a fantabulous mover. The woman who imported him only rode
dressage, so he has never jumped. When I got him his feet were pretty
messed up; he had foundered in 2005 and had on all kinds of pads and
bars etc. His xrays were very good though. So we pulled his shoes. He
was sound and nice when we got him but looks really good now, loose
and soft. We just started him in work after using these montsh to just
SENSE him and ground work him and let his feet come along. He seems
like a total prince..kind and quiet and affectionate. I lerve him.
He is kinda clunky, really looks like that Ramiro Son dad. Black with
four whites and a big blaze, and splashes of white on tummy.
Definetely old style clunky head..he reminds me very much of my
Condino son Holsteiner that I had such fun with.
I have some before video, will get some 'after'.
Thanks!
Abby
Sue Leopold
> On Nov 23, 8:59 am, svleop...@earthlink.net (Sue Leopold) wrote:
> > PSI Auction:
>
> > The golden cross of the "R" line on Donnerhall - and the D in this case
> > is through Don Schufro. Linebred to Ramino so may be a little spicy. But
> > lovely:
> >
> > <http://www.psi-auktion.de/en/psi-auction/psi-catalogue-2009/dressage-ho
> > rses-2009/?psiauktion=171&cHash=d11d40cd6e>
>
> Of all the dressage horses you posted, this one had the most correct
> trot with the hind legs in synch with the forelegs. I like him.
A good example of what bringing jumper lines (Ramiro) into the
dressage lines can do for the movement behind. It gives
engagement and power.
Bear in mind with the others - these are auction horses and
the "auction trot" is not a mirage. It is trained in to get the
big money at auction - and it is the *devil* to train out.
> >
> > Approved, licensed Holsteiner stallion. Can see why. Beautiful horse
> > btw. Wish they would list the Stamms on the Holsteiners. The motherlines
> > are so very important in Holsteiner breeding:
> >
> > http://www.psi-auktion.de/en/psi-auction/psi-catalogue-2009/showjumping-
> > horses-2009/?psiauktion=221&cHash=6ea598a9a6
> >
>
> Be still my heart.
Agreed. He is lovely. And a performance record to match.
Type, conformation, charisma. Oh yeah.
Sue Leopold
> Thank you! I knew you had some insights.
>
> Yes, the Malve is by Matcho.
>
> He is 12 now. I got him last winter. He is biggish, prolly 17 or 17.1,
> big bodied, actually kinda long backed and flat crouped, kinda old
> style. His grandpa was much more handsome than his papa, who is
> described as 'making up in heart what he lacks in looks' sort of
> comments. Hee!
I'll take heart over a pretty face any day.
Is the Ramiro's Son Ramiro Son II? Jill at Gray Fox Farm has
a stallion by Ramiro Son II:
http://www.grayfoxfarms.com/romanticstar.htm
How good does this guy jump? And reportedly, right from the
stall to the ring, no prep, born a hunter. Redwine is her more
popular stallion I suspect due to the bling factor but I like
this guy more. More scope.
> He is a fantabulous mover. The woman who imported him only rode
> dressage, so he has never jumped. When I got him his feet were pretty
> messed up; he had foundered in 2005 and had on all kinds of pads and
> bars etc. His xrays were very good though. So we pulled his shoes. He
Ya know. Sometimes I wish horse people would apply KISS.
> was sound and nice when we got him but looks really good now, loose
> and soft. We just started him in work after using these montsh to just
> SENSE him and ground work him and let his feet come along. He seems
> like a total prince..kind and quiet and affectionate. I lerve him.
He fell into a good thing. Good for him!
> He is kinda clunky, really looks like that Ramiro Son dad. Black with
> four whites and a big blaze, and splashes of white on tummy.
> Definetely old style clunky head..he reminds me very much of my
> Condino son Holsteiner that I had such fun with.
I love some of the old style in a horse. It is the taproot of
warmbloods. I kind of fear for some of the ultra-modern
stuff.
> I have some before video, will get some 'after'.
Cool.
Dawn J-L
> Dawn J-L <tjone...@together.net> wrote:
> > On Nov 23, 8:59 am, svleop...@earthlink.net (Sue Leopold) wrote:
> > > PSI Auction:
>
> > > The golden cross of the "R" line on Donnerhall - and the D in this case
> > > is through Don Schufro. Linebred to Ramino so may be a little spicy. But
> > > lovely:
>
> > > <http://www.psi-auktion.de/en/psi-auction/psi-catalogue-2009/dressage-ho
> > > rses-2009/?psiauktion=171&cHash=d11d40cd6e>
>
> > Of all the dressage horses you posted, this one had the most correct
> > trot with the hind legs in synch with the forelegs. I like him.
>
> A good example of what bringing jumper lines (Ramiro) into the
> dressage lines can do for the movement behind. It gives
> engagement and power.
>
> Bear in mind with the others - these are auction horses and
> the "auction trot" is not a mirage. It is trained in to get the
> big money at auction - and it is the *devil* to train out.
There is also breeding for the flamboyant front leg movement. Combine
the naturally impure gait with the training to obtain an even more
exaggerated auction trot and you have the antithesis of what dressage
and dressage breeding should be, IMO. That's why I am happy with my
off-breed; I can try to breed for pure elastic gaits with impulsion
and train them slowly according to those old fashioned "classical"
principles. But then I've always been one to follow my own path rather
than jumping on the bandwagon. ;-)
>
>
>
> > > Approved, licensed Holsteiner stallion. Can see why. Beautiful horse
> > > btw. Wish they would list the Stamms on the Holsteiners. The motherlines
> > > are so very important in Holsteiner breeding:
>
> > >http://www.psi-auktion.de/en/psi-auction/psi-catalogue-2009/showjumping-
> > > horses-2009/?psiauktion=221&cHash=6ea598a9a6
>
> > Be still my heart.
>
> Agreed. He is lovely. And a performance record to match.
>
> Type, conformation, charisma. Oh yeah.
He's outstanding. :-) The whole package.
--Dawn JL
Sue Leopold
> There is also breeding for the flamboyant front leg movement. Combine
> the naturally impure gait with the training to obtain an even more
> exaggerated auction trot and you have the antithesis of what dressage
> and dressage breeding should be, IMO. That's why I am happy with my
More prevalent in Dutch breeding than in German IMO. Though
I do think you have to be very careful with the Sandro Hit lineage.
Especially with the walk - can be quite lateral.
Trak is on its way back! And with good reason - solid, pure gaits
with suspension rather than flamboyance.
And I still like Swedish Warmbloods. Probably not enough flash
for the modern competitor. But good, solid, correct gaits and a
somewhat baroque build. Good-minded horses too.
> off-breed; I can try to breed for pure elastic gaits with impulsion
> and train them slowly according to those old fashioned "classical"
> principles. But then I've always been one to follow my own path rather
> than jumping on the bandwagon. ;-)
Well yeah, what you said.
Jumping is so much easier. Very highly heritable, objectively
measured.
> > Agreed. He is lovely. And a performance record to match.
> >
> > Type, conformation, charisma. Oh yeah.
>
> He's outstanding. :-) The whole package.
Holsteiner is a very, very tough registry. You need it all
and you'd better have the motherlines as well.
The Holsty people tend to get upset when one of theirs
becomes popular in dressage. They want *jumpers!* One
breeder was known to say "One dressage line is one too
many!" LOL.
Dawn J-L
> Dawn J-L <tjone...@together.net> wrote:
> > There is also breeding for the flamboyant front leg movement. Combine
> > the naturally impure gait with the training to obtain an even more
> > exaggerated auction trot and you have the antithesis of what dressage
> > and dressage breeding should be, IMO. That's why I am happy with my
>
> More prevalent in Dutch breeding than in German IMO.
Yes, but I suspect the Germans are attempting to compete with their
Dutch counterparts as they have always done.
> Though I do think you have to be very careful with the Sandro Hit lineage.
> Especially with the walk - can be quite lateral.
I question whether the Germans would have used SH so extensively if
they weren't chasing the Dutch down the path to flamboyance over
purity.
I want a good walk. But, I like to have three good gaits. IMO, a
loose swinging walk with a correct tempo is indicative of a lot of
desirable qualities.
>
> Trak is on its way back! And with good reason - solid, pure gaits
> with suspension rather than flamboyance.
I like a good Trak. (I live about an hour from Tylord Farm
http://www.tylordfarm.com/ ) But that isn't surprising, is it? ;-)
>
> And I still like Swedish Warmbloods. Probably not enough flash
> for the modern competitor. But good, solid, correct gaits and a
> somewhat baroque build. Good-minded horses too.
Me, too. The Swedes tend to value the combination of functionality
with a "clean aesthetic" in all things. I can say that because I am
half-Swedish (two Swedish grandparents). That the Swedish WB registry
is still committed to that mode dose not surprise me. ;-)
>
> > off-breed; I can try to breed for pure elastic gaits with impulsion
> > and train them slowly according to those old fashioned "classical"
> > principles. But then I've always been one to follow my own path rather
> > than jumping on the bandwagon. ;-)
>
> Well yeah, what you said.
>
> Jumping is so much easier. Very highly heritable, objectively
> measured.
>
> > > Agreed. He is lovely. And a performance record to match.
>
> > > Type, conformation, charisma. Oh yeah.
>
> > He's outstanding. :-) The whole package.
>
> Holsteiner is a very, very tough registry. You need it all
> and you'd better have the motherlines as well.
>
> The Holsty people tend to get upset when one of theirs
> becomes popular in dressage. They want *jumpers!* One
> breeder was known to say "One dressage line is one too
> many!" LOL.
>
I have great respect for the Holsteiner folks. Their registry has
maintained a clear focus that produces quality animals. Kudos to
them.
Dawn JL
Sue Leopold
> On Nov 23, 11:14 am, svleop...@earthlink.net (Sue Leopold) wrote:
> > Dawn J-L <tjone...@together.net> wrote:
> > > There is also breeding for the flamboyant front leg movement. Combine
> > > the naturally impure gait with the training to obtain an even more
> > > exaggerated auction trot and you have the antithesis of what dressage
> > > and dressage breeding should be, IMO. That's why I am happy with my
> >
> > More prevalent in Dutch breeding than in German IMO.
>
> Yes, but I suspect the Germans are attempting to compete with their
> Dutch counterparts as they have always done.
Oh for sure. But the Dutch native line is different. Much more
elevated movement intrinsic.
>
> > Though I do think you have to be very careful with the Sandro Hit lineage.
> > Especially with the walk - can be quite lateral.
>
> I question whether the Germans would have used SH so extensively if
> they weren't chasing the Dutch down the path to flamboyance over
> purity.
I think SH was well-promoted by Paul S. who bred the horse
as a jumper and found out He Could Not (Sandro on a Ramiro
mare is pure jumper breeding) and leveraged a beautiful look
and color and a spectacular trot. He is a very beautiful horse
who throws his look - but I don't like his hind end very much.
> I want a good walk. But, I like to have three good gaits. IMO, a
> loose swinging walk with a correct tempo is indicative of a lot of
> desirable qualities.
My saying is trot for show, canter for dough. :-) A walk IMO is
very predictive of the ability to canter. And if you can't canter,
you sho nuff aren't going to be able to jump.
>
> >
> > Trak is on its way back! And with good reason - solid, pure gaits
> > with suspension rather than flamboyance.
>
> I like a good Trak. (I live about an hour from Tylord Farm
> http://www.tylordfarm.com/ ) But that isn't surprising, is it? ;-)
No, not at all.
>
> >
> > And I still like Swedish Warmbloods. Probably not enough flash
> > for the modern competitor. But good, solid, correct gaits and a
> > somewhat baroque build. Good-minded horses too.
>
> Me, too. The Swedes tend to value the combination of functionality
> with a "clean aesthetic" in all things. I can say that because I am
> half-Swedish (two Swedish grandparents). That the Swedish WB registry
> is still committed to that mode dose not surprise me. ;-)
Like the Trak they were cavalry horses (officer's mounts) They are
bringing in some Holsteiner to bolster the jumping indexes but I
think that will mix in with the traditional Swedish lines very well.
> I have great respect for the Holsteiner folks. Their registry has
> maintained a clear focus that produces quality animals. Kudos to
> them.
They have been diligent in keeping the motherlines clean. Blood
is always on the top. They're a little bit C-C-L* these days - working
on bringing the R line back but I fear they have lost the Marlon line
forever and that's a shame. :-(
*Corde, Capitol, Ladykiller
Tara
>
> Champagne taste, beer pocketbook. That's me!
I didn't used to be that way, I had an eye for the cheap & tacky lol. I find
that the older I get my ability to pick things I can't afford increases by
leaps & bounds.
> If you find that person, I'll take the Baloubet son. :-D
No problemo!
Tara
Dawn J-L
> Dawn J-L <tjone...@together.net> wrote:
> > On Nov 23, 11:14 am, svleop...@earthlink.net (Sue Leopold) wrote:
> > > Dawn J-L <tjone...@together.net> wrote:
> > > > There is also breeding for the flamboyant front leg movement. Combine
> > > > the naturally impure gait with the training to obtain an even more
> > > > exaggerated auction trot and you have the antithesis of what dressage
> > > > and dressage breeding should be, IMO. That's why I am happy with my
>
> > > More prevalent in Dutch breeding than in German IMO.
>
> > Yes, but I suspect the Germans are attempting to compete with their
> > Dutch counterparts as they have always done.
>
> Oh for sure. But the Dutch native line is different. Much more
> elevated movement intrinsic.
>
The Dutch have kept the DHH book and periodically infuse some harness
horse blood (TP) into the riding horse lines (RP). I see harness
horse movement in the current Dutch uber-movers. Others may see it
differently.
>
>
> > > Though I do think you have to be very careful with the Sandro Hit lineage.
> > > Especially with the walk - can be quite lateral.
>
> > I question whether the Germans would have used SH so extensively if
> > they weren't chasing the Dutch down the path to flamboyance over
> > purity.
>
> I think SH was well-promoted by Paul S. who bred the horse
> as a jumper and found out He Could Not (Sandro on a Ramiro
> mare is pure jumper breeding) and leveraged a beautiful look
> and color and a spectacular trot. He is a very beautiful horse
> who throws his look - but I don't like his hind end very much.
>
> > I want a good walk. But, I like to have three good gaits. IMO, a
> > loose swinging walk with a correct tempo is indicative of a lot of
> > desirable qualities.
>
> My saying is trot for show, canter for dough. :-) A walk IMO is
> very predictive of the ability to canter. And if you can't canter,
> you sho nuff aren't going to be able to jump.
>
>
I have found that horses with long striding slinky walks tend to have
engaged uphill canters. A good walk can also be indicative of overall
suppleness.
> > > And I still like Swedish Warmbloods. Probably not enough flash
> > > for the modern competitor. But good, solid, correct gaits and a
> > > somewhat baroque build. Good-minded horses too.
>
> > Me, too. The Swedes tend to value the combination of functionality
> > with a "clean aesthetic" in all things. I can say that because I am
> > half-Swedish (two Swedish grandparents). That the Swedish WB registry
> > is still committed to that mode does not surprise me. ;-)
>
> Like the Trak they were cavalry horses (officer's mounts) They are
> bringing in some Holsteiner to bolster the jumping indexes but I
> think that will mix in with the traditional Swedish lines very well.
See, the Swedes are still working on functional athletes.
>
> > I have great respect for the Holsteiner folks. Their registry has
> > maintained a clear focus that produces quality animals. Kudos to
> > them.
>
> They have been diligent in keeping the motherlines clean. Blood
> is always on the top. They're a little bit C-C-L* these days - working
> on bringing the R line back but I fear they have lost the Marlon line
> forever and that's a shame. :-(
So many good lines that were once strong breeding traditions have been
lost or diluted in many registries.
--Dawn JL
trying to re-establish some treasured bloodlines in one small corner
of the horse world
Jennifer Meyer-Mahoney
> AKogler <ako...@san.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Is the Ramiro's Son Ramiro Son II? Jill at Gray Fox Farm has
> a stallion by Ramiro Son II:
>
> http://www.grayfoxfarms.com/romanticstar.htm
>
> How good does this guy jump? And reportedly, right from the
> stall to the ring, no prep, born a hunter. Redwine is her more
> popular stallion I suspect due to the bling factor but I like
> this guy more. More scope.
>
Wow...I love him. Is it my imagination or there is a strong resemblance
between him and Just the Best? This is one I will definitely bookmark to go
look at when it's time to breed Lily.
Jennifer
Ocean of Nuance
> PSI Auction:
>
> http://www.psi-auktion.de/en/psi-auction/psi-auction-2009/welcomenews/
>
> Stedinger son out of a Brentano II (think Brentina) granddaughter. I
> love Stedinger (love me some Landadel) and the "B" line gives
> rideability:
>
> <http://www.psi-auktion.de/en/psi-auction/psi-catalogue-2009/dressage-ho
> rses-2009/?psiauktion=168&cHash=acfe2a05db>
Damn. Is that going to be hard to collect? The stride is off the scale
huge!
> The golden cross of the "R" line on Donnerhall - and the D in this case
> is through Don Schufro. Linebred to Ramino so may be a little spicy. But
> lovely:
>
> <http://www.psi-auktion.de/en/psi-auction/psi-catalogue-2009/dressage-ho
> rses-2009/?psiauktion=171&cHash=d11d40cd6e>
That is a freaky quick hind leg. There's something hypermobile about
the SI joint, no? In the walk especially?
> Sex-balanced linebreed to Donnerhall via one of the most successful
> Sandro Hit sons Sir Donnerhall. Has a bit of the Sandro HIt walk (they
> are not the best) but still a very nice young horse and the Donnerhalls
> come by their rep for rideability and aptitude for higher level work
> honestly.
>
> http://www.psi-auktion.de/en/psi-auction/psi-catalogue-200
> 9/dressage-horses-2009/?psiauktion=179&cHash=e3591f9b53
Balanced and steady. I bet he gets to GP in no time flat, for better or
worse. I will remember this horse.
> OK, enough of this dressage stuff. On to the jumpers:
I looked most those over mainly to see if there were any dressage horses
misclassified into the jumper group. There were none I saw. :)
Thanks for posting that. How much are those horses going to sell for on
average?
sharon
Sue Leopold
He is on the same order. No imagining necessary.
His jump is SO good. So very good.
Jill is supposed to be very good to work with too.
Glad you like him!
betsey
>
> Glad you like him!
>
> Sue
>
> - Show quoted text -
I can't add anything of intelligence to this conversation..but DANG!
what a good conversation!!
Sue Leopold
> Sue Leopold wrote:
> > PSI Auction:
> >
> > http://www.psi-auktion.de/en/psi-auction/psi-auction-2009/welcomenews/
> >
> > Stedinger son out of a Brentano II (think Brentina) granddaughter. I
> > love Stedinger (love me some Landadel) and the "B" line gives
> > rideability:
> >
> > <http://www.psi-auktion.de/en/psi-auction/psi-catalogue-2009/dressage-ho
> > rses-2009/?psiauktion=168&cHash=acfe2a05db>
>
> Damn. Is that going to be hard to collect? The stride is off the scale
> huge!
The knock against SH is that his get can be tough to collect.
>
>
>
> > The golden cross of the "R" line on Donnerhall - and the D in this case
> > is through Don Schufro. Linebred to Ramino so may be a little spicy. But
> > lovely:
> >
> > <http://www.psi-auktion.de/en/psi-auction/psi-catalogue-2009/dressage-ho
> > rses-2009/?psiauktion=171&cHash=d11d40cd6e>
>
> That is a freaky quick hind leg. There's something hypermobile about
> the SI joint, no? In the walk especially?
The competitive folks like this because it makes the quick
transitions at the advanced tests easier. I think there's a
tradeoff there - the slower, carrying hind leg makes collection
easier. IMO
>
>
> > Sex-balanced linebreed to Donnerhall via one of the most successful
> > Sandro Hit sons Sir Donnerhall. Has a bit of the Sandro HIt walk (they
> > are not the best) but still a very nice young horse and the Donnerhalls
> > come by their rep for rideability and aptitude for higher level work
> > honestly.
> >
> > http://www.psi-auktion.de/en/psi-auction/psi-catalogue-200
> > 9/dressage-horses-2009/?psiauktion=179&cHash=e3591f9b53
>
> Balanced and steady. I bet he gets to GP in no time flat, for better or
> worse. I will remember this horse.
He is lovely, no doubt about that. Donnerhall - gotta love him (even
though he was a chestnut - LOL)
>
>
>
> > OK, enough of this dressage stuff. On to the jumpers:
>
> I looked most those over mainly to see if there were any dressage horses
> misclassified into the jumper group. There were none I saw. :)
Contender, a significant jumping sire has been known to
throw a dressage horse or two. (Ravel is by Contango a
Contender son) But no, these are jumpers mostly pretty
well-advanced in the sport.
But I bet you could throw a leg over The Nose (no hint
of dressage breeding there) and have a lovely ride.
Training is training and the mind is the mind. You would
be grinning within five minutes. Guarantee that.
He does expect Cookies though. :-D
Emily Brooks
>
> He does expect Cookies though. :-D
>
> Sue
Will The Nose accept Maple Brown Sugar Granola bars and baby carrots in lieu
of Cookies?
Emily - switched to baby carrots on vet's advice for Spot
Ocean of Nuance
> Ocean of Nuance <lizRMOVz...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
(snip)
>>> http://www.psi-auktion.de/en/psi-auction/psi-catalogue-200
>>> 9/dressage-horses-2009/?psiauktion=179&cHash=e3591f9b53
>> Balanced and steady. I bet he gets to GP in no time flat, for better or
>> worse. I will remember this horse.
>
> He is lovely, no doubt about that. Donnerhall - gotta love him (even
> though he was a chestnut - LOL)
Hey! I an watching the GP Special in the Stuttgart German Masters 2009
right now and have seen two consecutive chestnuts. So there is
something to chestnut obvious! The one I'm watching now actually looks
like a red dun bu tis of course a chestnut. The one before this one is
AMAZING - Dablino - Anabel Balkenhol's horse. This one is amazing
also. I don't see this class of horse around these parts.
> But I bet you could throw a leg over The Nose (no hint
> of dressage breeding there) and have a lovely ride.
>
> Training is training and the mind is the mind. You would
> be grinning within five minutes. Guarantee that.
>
> He does expect Cookies though. :-D
He would deserve them!
So how much do you think these horses go for? Ballpark?
sharon
Sue Leopold
The Nose says they sound very good!
What's the deal with baby carrots? Just interested.
Emily Brooks
>
> What's the deal with baby carrots? Just interested.
>
> Sue
Easier to chew for an old guy who is out of tooth root and short a few
teeth.
Emily
Cricket
"Emily Brooks" <sun...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Warning on the maple brown sugar granola bars - Jack will walk backwards all
day to get one you're eating in the saddle. Evidently the idea that when
he's backing up, you (and the granola bar) are also backing, so he is never,
ever, ever going to catch up, is a concept he has difficulty grasping.
Cricket
Melanie
"Tara" <irn...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Hmmm...you could get this little chap fairly cheaply
http://brooklineequestrian.com/shivago.html. Oddly enough, the one time and
only time he was bred, the filly was a palomino (mom is a buckskin
quarterpony). Odd because the hope had been for black babies with chrome!
He really stamped his refinement on his daughter. The owner gelded him
because she really didn't need another stallion and he wasn't going to be
very tall. Right now, I know his owner would like to reduce the size of her
horse population so if anyone knows anyone looking for a warmblood...
Melanie
Princess Pony
Blonde Ambition