I Goofed, Sorry..........
Ruth
Here's how my first day of shipping shirt orders went: I carefully
wrapped the shirts in tissue paper, put the single orders in large
envelopes and took the orders paid through PayPal to the post office.
Now everyone paid $2 a shirt shipping. The first one was $2.81, the
next $3.74 and the "straw that broke the camel's back"...... an order of
4 shirts, after PayPal service charge, I had .92 for shipping and it
cost $4.64.
I've had to change the shipping charges and PayPal payment transactions.
I'm real sorry about this but (silly me) I thought I could mail one
shirt in a large brown envelope for $2. Never happen!
PayPal is a quick and convenient method of payment but they take 3.5% of
the total transaction. I'll continue to accept PayPal but must add
the 3.5% to your total payment.
This "marketing" and offering "discounts" is harder to learn than
turning! Speaking of which; I'm going through withdrawal symptoms.
With all this running to get artwork done, picking up shirts, taking
orders, loosing money, I haven't been in my beautiful shop in 4 days!
I have to turn something soon, I need a "fix" : )
Ruth
Sunny PA.
Del Morissette
keeping the cost as low as you can. You can't lose your shirt (hehehe) on
each one and make it up on the volume. Besides, we don't want you shirtless
(ok, another bad pun--make it stop!!). Adjust as you need to is my $.02 or
even $2.00 (or more) if necessary.
Unless of course the shirts are just the loss leader for the $50 caps.
<VBG>
Del in Dublin
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Leo Lichtman
much we each should send to make you break even.
Owen Lowe
rfn...@webtv.net (Ruth) wrote:
> I've had to change the shipping charges and PayPal payment transactions.
> I'm real sorry about this but (silly me) I thought I could mail one
> shirt in a large brown envelope for $2. Never happen!
I want to make sure I sent enough to cover the shipping - do you have a
figure for 2 shirts? (Ok Del, that's my bad pun.) What I really mean is
do you have the costs for envelope and postage for 2 shirts?
> PayPal is a quick and convenient method of payment but they take 3.5% of
> the total transaction. I'll continue to accept PayPal but must add
> the 3.5% to your total payment.
Good move.
_____
Member in good standing since Jan. 3, 2002
AAW Chapter:
Northwest Woodturners, Portland, Oregon
_____
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."
- Groucho Marx
Leif O. Thorvaldson
handling. That's a common S/H charge with a lot of outfits and might give
you a little extra for all your work. That still makes them cheap for a
quality tee with magnificent artwork and logo!
Leif
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>
Owen Lowe
<Le...@mashell.com> wrote:
> Ruth: Why don't you just add $3.50 or $5.00 to each order for shipping
> and
> handling. That's a common S/H charge with a lot of outfits and might
> give
> you a little extra for all your work. That still makes them cheap for a
> quality tee with magnificent artwork and logo!
Here's a vote in agreement.
Ruth
Thanks for understanding my problem. I'm not asking anyone who already
paid for more money (how am I ever going to learn a lesson if you guys
pick me up when I fall?). I was explaining why I had to make a few
changes.
<<< Leif suggested: "Ruth: Why don't you just add $3.50 or $5.00 to each
order for shipping
and
handling. That's a common S/H charge with a lot of outfits and might
give
you a little extra for all your work. That still makes them cheap for a
quality tee with magnificent artwork and logo!">>>
Leif, I thought about that but I know how I feel when I order from a
place 30 mi. down the road and have to pay the same shipping as Kevin in
Alaska. I decided to charge shipping by zip code and I am adding .50
to cover tissue, tape, etc. I'm hoping these "Introductory Offer"
orders will generate more at either the lesser discount or even regular
prices. You gotta pay for advertising!
Thanks guys, you're all terrific!
Ruth
Gene
Suggest flat rate shipping charge of $4.45. Use Priority Mail $3.95 for up
to 2 lbs. Use USPS supplied boxes and/or envelopes. Should cover up to 2
shirts, maybe 3. Just buy $3.95 stamps from Post Office. Hand package(s) to
your Letter Carrier or put flag up on your mail box depending on your
delivery setup.
Gene
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Leo Lichtman
(clip)I'm not asking anyone who already
> paid for more money (how am I ever going to learn a lesson if you guys
> pick me up when I fall?)
*************************
Ruth, what you are doing is for all of us. We at least owe you a band-aid
for your knee! Else, how can WE ever expect anyone to take a risk?
(Notice, I am avoiding all remarks about how you would look with no
tee-shirt, or two tee-shirts. (:-?)
Leon
these special ones?
Ruth
I have to tell you all this;
When I took the first round of shirts to the PO and the postmaster
started saying what the postage was, I stopped him and asked "why so
much?". He looked like he had no idea how to answer that and said "It
just is". Tears welled up in my eyes (I think it was that straw with
the camel thing) and I apologized and took the boxes home to think.
Half an hour later the postmaster called me and said, "I've been
thinking about your problem, bring 3 shirts and I have an idea." He
took the USPS white envelopes and patiently weighed it with 1 then 2
then 3 shirts. He wrote down the weights and suggested I put "shipping
will be determined by your zip code". He said, "that way your customer
pays a fair shipping and you don't lose any money, just add .50 for the
envelope"
I LOVE living in a small town. Not many postMasters would do that, or
care!
Just thought I'd share that with you : )
David Propst
You did not goof. There is more to consider than one would at first
think. I think it would be very wise to set one shipping price for US
shipments. It will get to be a real pain otherwise. Also payment is
awkward since the buyer cannot pay until you have figured shipping
based on their zipcode.
If this gets big (i.e. mutiple items) you might want to consider
something like Amazon.com Z-Shops. They take 15%, but you get access
to card payments and nice order control.
Best Regards,
David
Lyn J. Mangiameli
I spent 13 years living in a small mountain community where the entire
county population was less than 1300 (yes, thats hundred, not thousands).
Your experience reminds much of the marvelous PostMistress we had there.
Lyn
Ruth
<<< Leon wrote: "Ok.it seems that I remember something about t-shirt's,
what is the deal with these special ones?" >>>
Well, I have this special logo that Lyn worked so hard coming up with
the right latin phrase and I had them printed grammatically wrong and
Molly suggested two trees turning into columns and I did it turning into
a vase and ......... well, Leon, I did everything wrong but you're
welcome to see the results. Go to the address at the bottom that says
WoodturnersLogo.
Let me know what you think.
Leon
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Owen Lowe
interest in the t-shirt project that has consumed much space on this
group the past month, so, in that light, I apologize for starting yet
another thread on the subject. I feel this is important and wanted to
make sure it didn't get lost within the parent thread.
In article <23586-3C...@storefull-126.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
rfn...@webtv.net (Ruth) wrote:
> Tears welled up in my eyes (I think it was that straw with
> the camel thing) and I apologized and took the boxes home to think.
Ruth, this sentence evoked sadness and concern for your outstanding
efforts with this - besides, I'm a marshmallow when I see tears welling.
You should not be taking from your own pocket to cover expenses that we
should have paid.
Please, everyone: when you receive your shirt package, compare the
actual postage costs with what you paid and reimburse Ruth. It's the
fair and upstanding thing to do.
Ruth
<<< Owen suggested: "Please, everyone: when you receive your shirt
package, compare the actual postage costs with what you paid and
reimburse Ruth. It's the fair and upstanding thing to do.">>>
Oh dear, no, I don't want that ! Owen I love you for the concern and
very caring thought. The MONEY didn't make the tears well up in my
eyes ( I don't cry over green paper), the last 2 weeks have been
stressful trying to get everything together.
If anyone really wants to help out, wear the shirt and get some other
people (non NG members) to order at the regular price. Now that would
be a real help!
For anyone interested in reading a quick synopsis of my last 4 wks:
started Jan. 14 drawing design, went to library 3 hr. graphic art how
to; went to 1st printer (17 mi.), he had no artist, would find one, week
later (he'd gone away and didn't tell me) no artist and shirts too
expensive; went to 2nd printer (21 mi.) price of shirts great, had
artist, 3 days later called to say artist not available; I called local
college for artist; called 3, they didn't want the job; called another
freelance, he wanted $300; back to the library + hrs. on the net
researching existing logos (so no infringement); found 4th printer,
great guys, fair price w/graphic artist (28.5 mi) take my first sketch,
go back, artists rendition no good; spent 13 hrs. drawing what ended up
being final logo; back to printer; back again to approve final screen
print = he added his own opinion again = no good; 4 trips in one day (I
volunteer at library so had to go back and forth); those tears started
to well up again; told their artist "I want it exactly like my drawing";
ok, shirts will be done by noon next day; next a.m. silk screener calls
says he was all set to paint the shirts and noticed there was no color
screen for the vase; back to the printer, pick 4th color (additional
screen charge and cost per shirt); FINE, whatever; get the shirts; and
now you know the rest of the story.
For anyone who is still reading this saga, it really isn't the little
bit of money for those first orders. I know now what to do. Two
members did send $2 through PayPal, one I denied payment the other I
didn't catch fast enough.
AND Owen is right, this subject of shipping has taken up too much space
in the NG already. I'm giving it a decent burial.
Thanks,
David A. Carley
-David
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Leif
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Lyn J. Mangiameli
Just over the rim from Lake Tahoe, and immediately north of Yosemite. Two ski
resorts, and an average elevation over 7000 feet. Still, a small permanent
community with the advantages and disadvantages that go with that. It was a
great place for a mountain climber, not so easy for a neuropsychologist;
eventually increasing age shifted the balance between those two identities.
Lyn
Nova
It's appreciated that you're trying to keep the cost of the T-shirts
down. I have to agree with others that you HAVE to add in a handling
charge. I don't think anyone expects you not to be compensated for your
time. Personally, I'd also consider adding a "buffer" amount to each order
to cover things like the inevitable return and/or exchange.
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
Ruth wrote:
> Thanks for understanding my problem. I'm not asking anyone who already
> paid for more money (how am I ever going to learn a lesson if you guys
> pick me up when I fall?). I was explaining why I had to make a few
> changes.
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