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OB O'Brien

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Nov 11, 2001, 6:59:03 PM11/11/01
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Hello all;
Some help please. What's the difference between fine art and fine craft.

TIA
Waiting for you all's astute answers (G)
OB
Turning something in Pensacola, Fla.
Don't know yet whether it's fine art or fine craft. (G)

Bill Brachhold

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Nov 11, 2001, 7:35:58 PM11/11/01
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OB,

Astute answer #1 - Fine art is in the eyes of the beholder....So if you be
holding one of your turnings, it MUST be fine art !!

Bill

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Andrew Barss

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Nov 11, 2001, 7:14:47 PM11/11/01
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OB O'Brien <obob...@pcola.gulf.net> wrote:
: Hello all;

: Some help please. What's the difference between fine art and fine craft.

Two letters.

-- Andy Barss

Nova

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Nov 11, 2001, 8:48:12 PM11/11/01
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OB O'Brien wrote:

> Hello all;
> Some help please. What's the difference between fine art and fine craft.

Depending on the item about $500 - $1000. ;-)

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Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA


Steve Worcester

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Nov 11, 2001, 10:44:32 PM11/11/01
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Technically, "c" and "f". Because if you take those letters out, you can
still make art

Now if you had asked the difference between art and crafts, you would incite
a riot.
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Steve Worcester
www.turningwood.com

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Bruce

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Nov 12, 2001, 12:53:00 AM11/12/01
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Fine craft is a hobby, fine art is for sale. Course I'm an old used car
salesman, so you can't trust me or my opinions anyway :)

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Ruth

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Nov 12, 2001, 7:14:23 AM11/12/01
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Fine Art is what you get when you are proficient at a Fine Craft.


Ruth
Lake Winola, PA

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OB O'Brien

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Nov 12, 2001, 8:19:21 AM11/12/01
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OB O'Brien The unknown Woodturner carved the below question on his
hollow vessel, that is a carved, pierced, textured, dyed and highly
polished piece of buckeye burl firewood:
>
> What's the difference between art and craft.
>
> TIA
> Waiting for you-all's great answers (G)
> OB
> Turning all sorts of stuff in Pensacola, Fla.
> Don't know whether it's Art, Fine Art, Craft, Fine Craft or crap. (G)

Glenn Hodges

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Nov 12, 2001, 9:35:44 AM11/12/01
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When I get $100 for a vase I call it a vase. If I sell
one for $500 it is a vaasze. I think everyone is correct. If y ou can
get what it is worth, its art.

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AllenDouglasInc

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Nov 12, 2001, 9:56:02 AM11/12/01
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One of our favorite contributors, Ruth, said..."Fine Art is what you get when

you are proficient at a Fine Craft."

Oh, so well and succinctly spoken, my dear. This sentiment puts it in the best
perspective I have ever seen or heard.

Doug Trembath

Bruce

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Nov 12, 2001, 11:22:15 AM11/12/01
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Well said.
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Nov 12, 2001, 1:03:47 PM11/12/01
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:19:21 GMT, OB O'Brien <obob...@pcola.gulf.net>
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>> What's the difference between art and craft.

Call it a craft and it is 100 bucks, art is $300+....g


Andy

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Nov 12, 2001, 12:52:46 PM11/12/01
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Fine Art = Pretty but useless.

Craft Art = Pretty and useful.

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Joe Fleming

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Nov 12, 2001, 2:25:01 PM11/12/01
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Our club just had Stuart Batty in for a demonstration and he talked about his pieces.  He said that the more functional the item is, the less you can make on a sale.  People just don't buy $100 dinner plates, but will part with hundreds for a really exciting wall art piece that is of the same size and effort.

Joe Fleming - San Diego
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J Pagona aka Y.B.

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Nov 13, 2001, 1:14:07 AM11/13/01
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IMNSHO:
Art relates to the design.
Craft relates to the workmanship.
A piece can be fine art, fine craft, neither or both.

There are plenty of excellent craftsmen who make pieces of common design or
others' design. There are also lots of artists who create original designs in
crafts they haven't mastered. Obviously, it is the people who are both fine
artists and craftsmen (craftspeople? crafters? craftH.Sapiens? craftcritters?
craftfolk? whatever!) who are the most inspiring.

David

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Arch

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Nov 13, 2001, 8:21:05 AM11/13/01
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Hi OB, At first I thought that you had raised a tired old question
that had been badly beaten, but after reading the good answers, I
understand much better. Thanks, Arch

Fortiter,

Darrell Feltmate

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Nov 13, 2001, 10:00:34 AM11/13/01
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Arch

I thought we were in for another go round of a tired subject but I agree
that the answers are good. Makes me stop to think about what I turn too.
I turn a lot of stuff that I would not consider art but I do consider
high quality. I think people should be able to afford a piece of wood
that is beautiful in its own right and displays high quality in the
execution of the craft of turning. A lot of sales are key rings and pens
and kitchen implements and the like. Simple bowls and vases.
Occasionally I put on a piece of wood, often a burl, and let it tell me
what to do and how to do it. Those tend to be artistic if not art
(somebody want to split a hair here?) and most often sell from a gallery
as opposed to a craft show. Craftsmanship sure counts though. Turning a
hundred pens or key rings makes a big difference when a fine cut of a
skew will make or break a burl vase. Practice may not make perfect, but
it brings me closer.

God bless and safe turning
Darrell Feltmate
Truro, NS, Canada

Lyn J. Mangiameli

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Nov 13, 2001, 1:16:27 PM11/13/01
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The most concise and easily apprehendable distinction I have seen.
Lyn

Lwardret94

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Nov 13, 2001, 5:18:47 PM11/13/01
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Fine craft is created in a shop, fine art is created in a studio.

Larry Ward, Gresham, OR

Bruce

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Nov 14, 2001, 7:07:33 AM11/14/01
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OK! I thought I knew the answer when this started, but now I'm confused
(that happens with age). BTW Arch, whats the Fortiter thing mean? We are
guessing its something to do with gas over here in Missouri. :)
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David A. Carley

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Nov 16, 2001, 12:54:01 AM11/16/01
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"Fortiter" is a Latin adverb, meaning "bravely".

Not that that really clarifies why Arch signs his messages that way... :)

-Dave


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Kevin & Theresa Miller

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Nov 16, 2001, 3:37:10 AM11/16/01
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"David A. Carley" wrote:
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> "Fortiter" is a Latin adverb, meaning "bravely".
>
> Not that that really clarifies why Arch signs his messages that way... :)
>
> -Dave

Well, maybe he read the "wreck" (rec.woodworking) before coming here. Its
not for the faint of heart at times, unlike our merry company...

...Kevin
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Arch

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Nov 16, 2001, 9:17:10 AM11/16/01
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Hi Dave, Fortiter is the motto of my Clan,
McCallister. We are a sept of the much larger Clan McDonald. Bravery,
Fortitude, Strength....which is needed to post to our rec. :-) All
Best, Arch

Fortiter,

Arch

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Nov 16, 2001, 10:49:34 AM11/16/01
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To All, Apolgies for the repeated & boring
explanation. Meant to email Dave, privately, Sorry, Arch

Fortiter,

James Gaydos

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Nov 17, 2001, 10:48:50 AM11/17/01
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Holy Cow Arch,I thought it was your last name. < BG >


James E Gaydos
Woodturner
Architectural--Spindle
Antique & Historic Reproductions
Ephrata,Pennsylvania
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Leif O. Thorvaldson

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Nov 18, 2001, 1:23:13 AM11/18/01
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Fortiter, Arch!

Leif


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