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Tom Kunich

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Jan 2, 2012, 8:53:16 PM1/2/12
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Has anyone ever tasted any de-alcoholized wine that doesn't taste like grape
juice?


Doug Miller

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Jan 2, 2012, 9:05:59 PM1/2/12
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On 1/2/2012 8:53 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> Has anyone ever tasted any de-alcoholized wine that doesn't taste like grape
> juice?

No, and for good reason: there isn't really any functional difference
between the two.

shbailey

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Jan 3, 2012, 7:07:47 PM1/3/12
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On Jan 2, 7:53 pm, "Tom Kunich" <tkun...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Has anyone ever tasted any de-alcoholized wine that doesn't taste like grape
> juice?

I had a Sutter Home product called Fre' a number of years ago that was
quite good at least for the varietals I tried. Wine is more than
grape juice with alcohol in it. There are distinct changes to the
flavor profile that are due to fermentation that aren't directly
associated with alcohol. Those flavors are still there in Fre'.

Stephen

Tom Kunich

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Jan 3, 2012, 7:22:25 PM1/3/12
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"shbailey" <shba...@knology.net> wrote in message
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I just tried a bottle of that on Sunday and it tasted just like grape juice.
But of course this stuff changes year to year.



Doug Miller

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Jan 3, 2012, 7:39:01 PM1/3/12
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Most of those flavors are due, not to the fermentation process, but to
the *aging* process -- which consists mostly of the various carboxylic
acids present in the juice reacting with the alcohol to form esters. No
alcohol = no esters = dramatically less complex flavor and aroma profiles.

Tom Kunich

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Jan 3, 2012, 7:53:26 PM1/3/12
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"Doug Miller" <doug_at_mi...@example.com> wrote in message
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Thanks for that Doug. Now all I have to do is find a good aged wine that is
dealcoholized AFTER aging.


Doug Miller

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Jan 3, 2012, 9:05:02 PM1/3/12
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Which, I meant to add, is why the bottle you had tasted like ... grape
juice. Probably much better grape juice than Welch's from the
supermarket, but still grape juice.
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> Thanks for that Doug. Now all I have to do is find a good aged wine that is
> dealcoholized AFTER aging.

Good luck with that one. Have you talked to your physician and
pharmacist yet? I think you're more likely to be able to work together
with the medical people to figure out a regimen that allows you a small
amount of wine, than to find "a good aged wine that is dealcoholized
after aging".

Tom Kunich

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Jan 5, 2012, 5:15:35 PM1/5/12
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"Doug Miller" <doug_at_mi...@example.com> wrote in message
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> Good luck with that one. Have you talked to your physician and pharmacist
> yet? I think you're more likely to be able to work together with the
> medical people to figure out a regimen that allows you a small amount of
> wine, than to find "a good aged wine that is dealcoholized after aging".

They tell me that I'll be able to drink normal wine again but not for a
year.



Doug Miller

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Jan 13, 2012, 8:37:49 AM1/13/12
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"Tom Kunich" <tku...@earthlink.net> wrote in
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In a way, that's good news: all the wine you've made so far gets an extra year of aging before you
start to drink it. If you make more starting *now*, that will be able to age even longer, until you run out
of what you've already made.
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