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Susan Ford

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Aug 26, 2002, 2:42:00 PM8/26/02
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Well finally got around to scraping the popcorn off of the cieling. What a
mess! With dust mask and face shield, it rains down in plaster form, even
when I thoroughly soak it with the sprayer. I'm about 1/3rd done now. Time
to shop-vac up the plaster mess I've made so far.

Ugh.

Susan


Jan Leavitt

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Aug 26, 2002, 3:08:08 PM8/26/02
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Yes, but you will love it when it is done. Who invented that awful stuff
anyway?
Jan
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Susan Ford

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Aug 26, 2002, 3:22:59 PM8/26/02
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Dunno, but it got popular in the 70s and early 80s. Not exactly times known
for good taste, hehe. Micheal will show me how to put up a simple cieling
texture once this stuff is down. Texture that can be painted!

Susan

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LCharvon

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Aug 26, 2002, 4:01:58 PM8/26/02
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Um, you should be careful, because in many places, that 'cottage cheese" stuff
contained asbestos, which you DON'T want in your lungs....
LC in Sunny So Cal

LN

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Aug 26, 2002, 4:32:46 PM8/26/02
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We have this awful 'treatment' on our kitchen and hallway walls.
It looks like the top of a fancily frosted cake. You know... white
peeks. It is pointy and it hurts if you touch it or rub against it
(but it's great if you have an itch on your back you can't reach).
My kids were always scraping themselves on it when we first moved
here. I want it OFF, but it is so overwhelming, I haven't begun to
do anything. I was gonna do it this summer, but I forgot. Glad I
did considering the heatwaves we kept having. But ick. I wish some
DIY show would come in and do it for me!

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LN in NH
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Kate Dicey

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Aug 26, 2002, 8:11:05 PM8/26/02
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Sounds like Artex! Nasty stuff, done like that! It gets used quite a
bit in the UK for ceilings, but never really caught on for walls.

Our kitchen and dining room ceilings were done with it to hide a lot of
joins, but it was done in a small, flattish swirley effect, and is a LOT
better than the mess that was there before, and an ENORMOUS amount
cheaper than having the old lath & plaster ceiling ripped down and
replaced.

Kate XXXXXX

Kathy Applebaum

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Aug 26, 2002, 8:49:30 PM8/26/02
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Just about everyone in the home improvement industry thinks those DIY
shows are funnier than the comedy channel. They are ALWAYS minimizing
the hard/messy parts! :)

(And then people come into my store and think they can do the project in
5 mintues while wearing formal attire... *sigh*)

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Kathy Applebaum (Woodland, CA)
longarm machine quilting
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LN

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Aug 26, 2002, 9:13:45 PM8/26/02
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It is thick rubbery paint type stuff.. Not the powdery stuff they
usually put on ceilings. It wouldn't be easy to sand off at all.
I'm thinking I may have to peel it off. I think they put it on
over wallpaper tho, so I won't ruin the wallboard... I hope.

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Kate Dicey

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Aug 26, 2002, 9:33:59 PM8/26/02
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Bleah! Sounds foul! No wonder you want rid of it!

We had to get the Artex of the bathroom ceiling, and that took 2 days
with a steam stripper - our bathroom is slightly less than 6' square!

Kate XXXXXX

Marcella Tracy Peek

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Aug 26, 2002, 10:55:07 PM8/26/02
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In article <YDua9.2626$od6.65...@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>,
"Susan Ford" <susa...@slackford.com> wrote:

Sorry to hear that. That was one job where I decided it was worth it to
pay someone. But then, we had over 2,000 square feet of it! Our guy
wore a baseball cap while he worked. It helped shield his eyes from the
falling dust.

Hang in there. Remember, a long handled sandy board is your friend :-)

marcella

Susan Ford

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Aug 26, 2002, 11:35:09 PM8/26/02
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I believe I mentioned the face shield and mask. Yes I realize it contains
trace amounts of asbestos. One of the reasons it's coming down in the first
place.

Susan

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Susan Ford

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Aug 26, 2002, 11:40:53 PM8/26/02
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Progress report, it's GONE from the bathroom cieling. It was only about two
hours of actual work, spread over the entire day though. I'd wet it, scrape
some, rest to let the stuff dry on the floor, and then sweep and shop-vac it
up. Then wet some more, scrape some more, etc.

Next step is to re-texture the cieling in something more paintable. I'd like
a smooth finish, but not sure if it can be achieved. Michael says that the
cieling seems in good shape. Better than he'd expected. So we might get a
smooth cieling after all. We'll have to re-mud the sheetrock to smooth it
all out.

After that, paint! I get to prime everything. The walls and the woodwork
(which is going to go white).

Susan

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Susan Ford

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Aug 26, 2002, 11:41:59 PM8/26/02
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Ack well if it's over wallpaper, maybe you can steam it off, if you can get
through the bumpy stuff down to the wallpaper.

Susan

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Wayne and Sharon Harper

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Aug 27, 2002, 12:01:29 AM8/27/02
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when re-doing our laundry room we found a layer of paint on top of a layer
of wallpaper on top of a layer of wall paper on top of more wallpaper.

--
Sharon from Melbourne Australia (not to mention the flooring - but that's
another whole story)
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Kate Dicey

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Aug 27, 2002, 5:07:01 AM8/27/02
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On our living room walls: remains of 10 different wallpaper on top of
frog green distemper that we had to wash off with sugar soap! On the
ceiling: 4 complete layers of paper - the final coat of wood chip went
up the walls and across the ceiling! Each layer had several coats of
paint.

It was a bit like domestic archaeology! We discovered a bit on the
living room wall where someone had once had a dart board! This was
confirmed by long term residents, who also said our house (a smallish
three bedroom terrace!) was once occupied by three families at once!

It took 6 weeks of working at weekends and in the evening to get the
place ready for painting. We lived on Marks & Spencer chilled cabinet
foods and bought the microwave to heat things up, just for speed and
because even though we were working in the living room, everything in
the house was covered in grit and tasted of paint!

Kate XXXXXX

Susan Ford

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Aug 27, 2002, 11:19:22 AM8/27/02
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Wow, and I thought my filthy tan walls, ugly brown carpet, and popcorn
cieling was bad! However, this house had only one other owner, and that was
the builder. He was a construction worker who poured concrete, and he built
the house during the weekends. Some parts of the house are really cool, like
the layout, and some are compltely mystifying, such as the electrical wiring
(which Michael fixed) and plumbing.

The bathroom is in store for a total makover. New sink, tub, toilet, new
cabinet fronts, SOME sort of covering on the floor besides bare concrete,
and new cieling texture. It'll be a job, for sure, and I just finished the
first part of it. I'm so proud! :)

Susan

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Karlee in Kansas

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Aug 27, 2002, 12:44:18 PM8/27/02
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I think we all had our DIY projects from you-know-where....mine was the
walpaper in the current kitchen. The first layer came off like a dream.
Just peeled right off. I thought that it would be like the other rooms that
had just one layer of walpaper. WRONG. Layer #2 was horrid....baby poo
green with an ugly pattern...so I start scraping and scraping...the stuff
must have been put on with super glue...then I find out, to my dismay, that
a second identical layer was under it...offset by about 3/4 of an inch.
Took me the better part of 2 weeks, 3 gallons of vinegar and a lot of
strained muscles to get the majority of it off. I had all but given up when
my mom showed up and smeared fabric softener on it (i can't touch fabric
softener or I break out in a rash)...and that did the trick to get the rest
of it off. I poo-poo the idea of a commercial walpaper stripper....when the
hot water/vinegar mix works better, and was reccommended from one of the
best remodelers in town. Maybe sometime I'll share my adventure with the
light pink/brown/harvest gold/white bathroom story.

Regards
Karlee

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Pati Cook

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Aug 27, 2002, 7:33:29 AM8/27/02
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At one time "we" (when I was in highschool, so we was my dad, et al) decided
to strip the paint off the door to the bathroom. This was, for Tucson, and
OLD house. We started in one area and got through several layers of different
colors of paint, (multiple coats, of course, of each color). And realized this
was going to be a *job*. This was on the bathroom side of the door by the
way. When we got to the layer of *bright* kelly green my dad gave up. We
just painted over it all. But can anyone imagine a bright green bathroom?
(Then again, Daddy got a deal on paneling so the bathroom ended up being
paneled, even had silver birch on the ceiling. He called the "head
office".....

yes I have/had a pecular family.......... explains some things about
me............<G>

Pati, in Phx

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Kate Dicey

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Aug 27, 2002, 4:53:54 PM8/27/02
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My parent's first 'owned' house has a daffodil yellow bathroom suite -
so dad painted the room lime green! Worked a treat, but no-one with a
hangover survived... ;D

Kate XXXXXX

Wayne and Sharon Harper

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Aug 27, 2002, 6:06:55 PM8/27/02
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I bow down in silent homage to the experts!

--
Sharon from Melbourne Australia (and I thought our place was bad!)
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Kate Dicey

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Aug 27, 2002, 9:08:00 PM8/27/02
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This same room also had a wall built on top of a bit of carpet, and the
gas meter in the corner - It's under my desk as I write! When the
previous owners took out the larder from what was a kitchen living room,
it was too much bother to move the meter, and now it would cost us
£2000. There are lumps in the floor that we will have to fix sometime,
where the walls were not quite taken down to floorboard level: there's
about 1/4" difference - just enough to catch the wheels of my chair and
wear a hole in the carpet!

This house was built in 1928, so it's not really old.

Janner

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Aug 28, 2002, 6:11:24 AM8/28/02
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After just finishing decorating the hallway, staircase and bathroom, you
have my sympathy. I moaned the whole time about the previous owners of our
house and how they had fixed things - he was a builder as well! It makes
our few problems seem insignificant now. Mind you, I've never used so much
polyfilla in a house as we have here!
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Janner

"You have to have a Dream!"

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