pondering quilt markers
blackrosequilts
Club 2005 (haven't taken a pic yet, but you can see what it looks like
at http://tinyurl.com/6mqjl
If I can find the "Circle of Love" stencils -- I have NO clue if they're
still available -- I'm pondering how to mark this quilt top for machine
quilting on my normal sewing machine (Bernina artista 200/730 with a BSR).
I'm deeply suspicious of chalk. I've tried it. It rubs off. It does
NOT stay put when I manipulate the fabric as much as I need to do to MQ
on my 200/730.
Water soluble is my favorite, but that nice blue obviously isn't going
to show on the medium to dark fabrics.
Colored quilt marking pencils -- might work, but I can't find a color
that will show on all the fabrics. Plus the ones that wash off also rub
off (found that out the hard way).
Anybody ever successfully mark a quilt that was mainly medium to dark of
several different colors? What did you use? Were you satisfied with
the results?
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far has worked well. If you find one that does, please, please do come back
here and let us know. The only thing that has 'kind of' worked for me on
mediums and darks has been a sharp edge of soap slivers. They get soft and
sort of rounded just by the heat of your hand when marking so I keep several
in a zip in the refrigerator so I can keep changing. Whatever you do, don't
even walk in the room where the iron is. Some of those suckers will set for
'life plus'. Trust me. Report back including an update on Miss Rommi.
Polly
"blackrosequilts" wrote >I just finished piecing the second quilt top
NightMist
These days I must assume that every project is a extra long term
project, so I mark accordingly.
On some dark fabrics crayola washable markers will show up enough to
be usable. They also wash out after being left in for a good long
while.
I will be doing some test runs with the Crayola washable crayons in
the near future. So far they have come off of absolutely evrything
Ash has gotten them on, including his clothes, so I have hopes.
White conte crayon is easy to use and does not rub off as easily as
chalk. I have had no problem washing it out. When useing conte's I
have stuck mostly to the drawing crayons because I know for sure what
is in them. I have had good results with some of the light colored
Conte pastel pencils as well, but unless you know your pigments I
would not recomend them.
I have taken to drawing out the full pattern at around half size on a
great big sheet of newsprint, tracing over the sections I have
finished when I have to lay it aside, and folding it up with the
quilt. That way it is much easier to figure out what I was doing
exactly when I am able to pick it up again. It's also a failsafe if I
lose some markings.
If ever I find proper sized dressmakers carbon again I will probably
expand my drawings, use a stylus, and just mark the whole thing with
carbon. Thus far I have had no luck useing Sally's carbon, and the
only dressmakers carbon I have tracked down lately has been the Dritz
which comes in strips that are about 6x18 inches. Flippin useless!
It's even a pain to use in garment sewing.
NightMist
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cant wait to see your top pix.
how bout one of those silver marking pencils.
should show up well on both the dark and mediums.
should only be a problem if you're using fabs that have some silver bits on
them, otherwise easily seen.
just a thot,
jeanne
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"blackrosequilts" wrote...
Sally Swindells
hand quilting.
http://www.quiltmag.com/chainey/barbara.html
I asked specifically what pencil she used to mark. The one she was
using looked grey and her fabric was very pale mauve. I have a silvery
pencil which doesn't show up for me.
She was using ordinary water soluble pencils - the sort artists use
(hers were Staedtler) and she said that she chooses a colour which
tones in with the fabric but can be seen. I said I'd used a fine
ordinary pencil and she said that was ok too.
I've just had a look in her 'Quilt it' book (which I love and already
had) and there she says pre-test that the marks will come out when
immersed for a short time in cool or cold water. If used sufficiently
lightly it may be possible to remove marks by sponging rather than
soaking, but you need to test beforehand. She also says remember that
these crayons were developed for use on paper, not fabric, which is
more absorbent and so may take up more of the pigment.
I bought a small tin of assorted pencils on my way home - they were a
different, but reliable (Derwent) make, but haven't opened the tin yet
as I have only just woken up! This way you would have enough colours
to be able to change according to the fabric colour. I also think that
a tin (I do like the tin idea) comes out cheaper than the quilt shops'
dedicated pencils.
The book is brilliant for someone like me who pieces the quilt, does
the backing and batting and then looks at it and thinks 'What now?"
Hope Barbara Chainey helps (its not my advice - I haven't tried it
yet, but her quilting was to die for).
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On Mon, 22 May 2006 03:23:04 GMT, blackrosequilts
<blackro...@netscape.net> wrote:
C&S
paper or Golden thread quilting paper
(http://www.goldenthreads.com/index.html) NAYY. I trace my stencil on a
piece cut the size of the block, attach (using small pins) up to ten sheets
(depends on how many blocks I have) and follow the outline on my machine
using an old needle (if you're frugal and plan on using the first sheet
(like me) make sure to erase the pencil markings as they tend to rub off on
the thread - ask me how I know lol). Pin one sheet on your block, follow
the dots and voila! The paper rips easily. Good luck!
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Boca Jan
then I have ever seen. I hope they have something you can use.
I also have an assortment of marking materials, and am dissatisfied with
them all. I just bought 2 water soluable pens, and to my chagrin, I could
mark my matgerial and watch the markins disappear within about 5 minutes!
OK Carol - what is the secret of marking?
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Donna in Idaho
it's the Allray Chalk Marking Set. The set comes with a holder and 8 white
refills, along with one each dk blue, lt blue, green, yellow, purple, beige,
orange & red. NAYY, just very pleased with this marking set. My set cost
$10.99 when I bought it a year or so ago.
Donna in Idaho
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Roberta Zollner
permanent pen and give it a few minutes to dry. Shows up well against a dark
background. The P&S tears away quite easily.
Roberta in D
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Sandy Foster
blackrosequilts <blackro...@netscape.net> wrote:
> I'm deeply suspicious of chalk. I've tried it. It rubs off. It does
> NOT stay put when I manipulate the fabric as much as I need to do to MQ
> on my 200/730.
Rose have you tried that new-ish Miracle Chalk? It doesn't rub off, so
I'm told; you have to get it off with a gentle ironing.
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Marcella Peek
blackrosequilts <blackro...@netscape.net> wrote:
> I just finished piecing the second quilt top (Sunset) in Thimbleberries
> Club 2005 (haven't taken a pic yet, but you can see what it looks like
> at http://tinyurl.com/6mqjl
>
> If I can find the "Circle of Love" stencils -- I have NO clue if they're
> still available -- I'm pondering how to mark this quilt top for machine
> quilting on my normal sewing machine (Bernina artista 200/730 with a BSR).
>
On e-bay http://tinyurl.com/gv3z2
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> I'm deeply suspicious of chalk. I've tried it. It rubs off. It does
> NOT stay put when I manipulate the fabric as much as I need to do to MQ
> on my 200/730.
Miracle Chalk. Truly wonderful stuff. Works in a pounce to marking
with stencils is very fast. Won't rub off. It only comes in white (no
matter what people will tell you the blue stuff is regular chalk...NOT
the same thing) but I find it shows up well on medium to dark fabrics.
It irons off quite well.
http://www.miraclechalk.com/index.htm
When I used pencils it was usually the Roxanne ones. They come in white
and silver and between the two colors one shows up on any fabric. They
are soft so you aren't pulling and stretching your fabric.
marcella
Pati Cook
chalk and comes in a pencil shape too. Easy to sharpen, stays put but is
removable with heat. If you can find a tailor supply place it is a lot
cheaper if you will use a box of it. (which will last a long time, I
bought my box over 20 years ago. <G> ) Even though it is white, it
shows even on white fabric. We used it in the tailor shop where I
worked and never had problems with it.
Pati, in Phx
Pati Cook
Marcella Peek wrote:
When you go to the link Marcella gives (below) the little square pieces
are what I have. Got a box years ago for about $6. Now they want about
$5 for a couple of pieces. Again, if you can find a tailor supply, you
can get a box rather cheaply. Sharpen with a knife to keep a sharp edge.
Shows up on most anything, even white. (Not sure about the pounce on
white, haven't tried it yet.)
Pati, in Phx
Kate T.
with it nothing shows up but almost instantly the white marker shows
up. And.... to remove the marks you just iron it. The heat makes the
marks disappear. I've used it on med to dark fabric for a couple years
now. Yes it is kind of costly about 5 dollars per pen but I found it
works best for all my marking on dark fabrics. Doesn't smear or fade
away. I think it works better than chalk or soap chips. I've found it
in Walmart, Joann's and Hancock Fabric.
Kate T. South Mississippi
blackrosequilts
> Clover puts out a white marking pin. When you first mark something
> with it nothing shows up but almost instantly the white marker shows
> up.
Hmm. I found a white marking pen by Dritz, which didn't work worth
beans -- the marks were barely visible even on very dark fabric. I'll
have to search for the one by Clover.
blackrosequilts
> When you go to the link Marcella gives (below) the little square pieces
> are what I have. Got a box years ago for about $6. Now they want about
> $5 for a couple of pieces. Again, if you can find a tailor supply, you
> can get a box rather cheaply. Sharpen with a knife to keep a sharp edge.
> Shows up on most anything, even white. (Not sure about the pounce on
> white, haven't tried it yet.)
>
> Pati, in Phx
I have tried Easy Mark soapstones, which are the same shape as the
square pieces in the picture at http://www.miraclechalk.com/index.htm .
I can tell you that they are *murder* to use with stencils. I may try
the Miracle Chalk some time since it comes in a pencil-shaped marker
that would obviously work better with a stencil.
Marcella Peek
blackrosequilts <blackro...@netscape.net> wrote:
> Pati Cook wrote:
> > When you go to the link Marcella gives (below) the little square pieces
> > are what I have. Got a box years ago for about $6. Now they want about
> > $5 for a couple of pieces. Again, if you can find a tailor supply, you
> > can get a box rather cheaply. Sharpen with a knife to keep a sharp edge.
> > Shows up on most anything, even white. (Not sure about the pounce on
> > white, haven't tried it yet.)
> >
> > Pati, in Phx
>
> I have tried Easy Mark soapstones, which are the same shape as the
> square pieces in the picture at http://www.miraclechalk.com/index.htm .
> I can tell you that they are *murder* to use with stencils. I may try
> the Miracle Chalk some time since it comes in a pencil-shaped marker
> that would obviously work better with a stencil.
Really, if you're going to use stencils it is much easier and faster to
use the miracle chalk in the pounce. Honest.
marcella
Kathy Applebaum
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> Really, if you're going to use stencils it is much easier and faster to
> use the miracle chalk in the pounce. Honest.
And I'll second this. Pencil-type markers (as in soapstone, chalk, etc) are
great for freehand and following templates, but are REALLY slow for
stencils. Pounce pads are the way to go for stencils.
For those who haven't used a pounce pad, remember that the name is
misleading, because you don't pounce with them (in any sense of the word,
you smart alecs!). You gently wipe them over the stencil several times,
being careful not to bend the stencil. In between uses, I give the pad a
light shake to make sure the powder is down at the surface, but other than
that, no shaking, just wiping.
FWIW, I have two pounce pads in my arsenal. One has Miracle Chalk, and the
other has regular chalk with a teeny bit of blue in it, for use on white
fabric. I haven't tried mixing the blue into the Miracle Chalk yet -- I'm
not sure the blue would come out with the Miracle Chalk, and I don't need it
often enough to be bothered experimenting. Maybe in about 20 years when I've
used up the chalk already in the pounce pad I'll experiment, but I'm hoping
there will be a colored Miracle Chalk by then. :)
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blackrosequilts
> And I'll second this. Pencil-type markers (as in soapstone, chalk, etc) are
> great for freehand and following templates, but are REALLY slow for
> stencils. Pounce pads are the way to go for stencils.
I just can't wrap my head around the idea of chalk, especially powdered
chalk, that doesn't rub off.
This is the first time in *years* that I've used stencils. I haven't
used them since I stopped hand quilting and started machine quilting --
until I got the BSR upgrade on my Bernina, I just winged it. Either I
did lines across the quilt of various repeating shapes (like hearts or
leaves), using pins as landmarks, or I stippled, or did freeform shapes,
or followed the lines of the block.
Quilting a quilt marked from stencils is fun (it's also challenging,
fighting the weight of the quilt to follow the lines without
jig-jagging). For Thimbleberries Sunset and Max's Really Green Quilt, I
used stencils based on the size of the blocks. I found the "Circle of
Love" stencils locally! (I love putting money into the local economy.)
Anyway, I get a sense of accomplishment after each block. Feels nice.
I fell back on the old tried-and-true but annoyingly rub-offy wash-out
pencils to mark Sunset. Meh, it'll work, I'll have to do some
re-penciling, but it'll work.
I plan on doing a lot more of this though, so finding better marking
methods and tools is something I'm going to be spending some time and
money on. I like the idea of pounce pads, sounds quick and simple, I
just really can't wrap my head around the idea of chalk that doesn't rub
off. I *will* try it, I'm just a little boggled is all.
Bonnie Patterson
hair spray! We have used hair spray on chalk lines, on the floor for
tile, the lines rubbed off before we were finished. We sprayed them
with hair spray and they stayed on.
Hair spray washes out...
As I said, it's just an idea.
Bonnie, in Middletown, VA
blackrosequilts
> I've been following this thread and just had an "idea",
> hair spray!
I appreciate the idea, but I'm one of a number of quilters on the list
with chemical sensitivities. I can't use hair spray if I want to
continue breathing. :-D
Johanna Gibson
I have this pen! I used it to mark quilting lines on dark brown and
black fabrics, and it was great. You mark the line, wait 10 seconds
and it starts to show up. The line disappears if you get it wet or if
you iron it a bit. Really great! I should buy a new one, because I
don't know how long they last and I have another black project coming
up....
-- Jo in Scotland