Crayola washable markers/handquilting
Karen Johnson
really not all that keen on the look and process of machine quilting.
(Don't get me wrong -- I've seen machine quilting done by experts that
just makes me gasp with appreciation, but that's not my level of
skill!)
But I always machine quilt, because I am so absolutely stymied by how
to mark the quilt top. I've tried everything that has ever been
suggested and it just doesn't work for me! Chaco, poncing, the little
purple pen, the little silver pencil, even graphite pencils ... The
only handquilting I've ever been able to do effectively is
straight-line quilting, 'cause I can use Tiger Tape (or whatever it's
called).
So this Crayola washable marker thing really intrigues me. Has anyone
had trouble getting the lines out? Do they really wash out
thoroughly?
And has anyone tried to get marks out without washing the quilt when
it's finished? I don't wash my quilts when I'm finished -- I only
wash 'em when they finally need it. I really don't want to have to
wash one just to get rid of the marks. Is there any way of getting
rid of the marks short of a full-on frolic in the washing machine?
Thanks!
Karen Johnson
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Marcella Peek
Karen Johnson <KJoh...@dabukar.com> wrote:
> So this Crayola washable marker thing really intrigues me. Has anyone
> had trouble getting the lines out? Do they really wash out
> thoroughly?
Well, you must use the ones labeled "WASHABLE" not just the regular
ones. I've not ever had a problem getting the lines out. After I'm
done quilting I wash the quilt in the washer - cool water, gentle cycle,
gentle soap.
Here's how I test any marking utensil (other than chalk which brushes
off or tape which just peels off :-)
As I cut the fabrics for the top I save a scrap of each one. I sew the
scraps together into a chain. I usually trim them up so the strip of
fabrics is only a couple inches wide. Using the marker of choice I draw
a line through all the fabrics. My goal is to find one color/type of
marker or pencil that will be visible on all the different fabrics
because I find switching all the time to be a royal pain. Then, I toss
the fabric in the washer and wash as I would a quilt. After it comes
out, I look to see that the marks are out of every fabric. I have heard
on this list that some people have had trouble with the yellow pen
coming out. So, you do want to be sure it comes out of every fabric
because sometimes a pencil will wash out of one fabric but not another.
>
> And has anyone tried to get marks out without washing the quilt when
> it's finished? I don't wash my quilts when I'm finished -- I only
> wash 'em when they finally need it. I really don't want to have to
> wash one just to get rid of the marks. Is there any way of getting
> rid of the marks short of a full-on frolic in the washing machine?
I've not tried that. I like washing my quilts when finished. They get
grubby from the handling, and likely dusty from being on the floor or
dragged around while working on them. A wet quilt also gives me the
chance to block it so that I have a very flat and square quilt.
You could try simply soaking the whole thing, but then that's not much
different than washing so.....might as well wash.
However, you mentioned that the purple pen didn't work for you (which I
would guess is the water soluble marker they sell in sewing stores) I
heard about the Crayola washable markers as an alternative to that pen
as they are cheaper and come in more colors. What about the pen didn't
work for you?
marcella
Julia in MN
quilts when I am done with them anyhow, because I figure the oils in my
skin might stain if left there, not to mention that they may get a bit
dirty just from being handled. If I am handquilting, the quilt has been
laying around the house for awhile, so I figure it could use washing.
I do try to use a color that will blend in if it doesn't wash out
completely. For example, I use a red marker on pink fabric or a blue
marker on dark blue. I figure it will at least fade enough to not be
noticeable.
Julia in MN
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Sandy Foster
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> So this Crayola washable marker thing really intrigues me. Has anyone
> had trouble getting the lines out? Do they really wash out
> thoroughly?
I've had problems with them. I did make a sample first, thank goodness,
and washed that, finding that the marks didn't wash out entirely. Some
colors were worse than others. It's been a couple of years, though, so I
don't remember which colors were the better ones.
Depending on what I'm hand quilting, I like the chacoliner (just mark a
little at a time), the wash-out blue marker, or (my favorite) a
prismacolor pencil in peach -- it shows on darks or lights and comes
right out by the time you've finished quilting a particular section.
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Estelle Gallagher
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Karen Johnson
>Depending on what I'm hand quilting, I like the chacoliner (just mark a
>little at a time), the wash-out blue marker, or (my favorite) a
>prismacolor pencil in peach -- it shows on darks or lights and comes
>right out by the time you've finished quilting a particular section.
I've never had much luck marking a little bit at a time -- I have
trouble going back and completing the design. Things get wonky and
skewed, and it's usually a disappointment for me. (I know that this
says a lot about my skill level as a hand quilter, and if I just keep
at it, it'll get better ... but I do hate badly quilting a top that I
just love!)
Prismacolor? Where would I get it? Generic art supply store like
Michael's?
Karen Johnson
>As I cut the fabrics for the top I save a scrap of each one. I sew the
>scraps together into a chain. I usually trim them up so the strip of
>fabrics is only a couple inches wide. <snip>
Great idea -- I'll use it! Thanks.
>I've not tried that. I like washing my quilts when finished. They get
>grubby from the handling, and likely dusty from being on the floor or
>dragged around while working on them. A wet quilt also gives me the
>chance to block it so that I have a very flat and square quilt.
This has never occurred to me -- how on earth do you block a bed-sized
quilt? Most of my quilts are full to queen-sized. When I think of
blocking I think of lying it flat, shaping it, etc. How do you block
your quilts?
>However, you mentioned that the purple pen didn't work for you (which I
>would guess is the water soluble marker they sell in sewing stores) I
>heard about the Crayola washable markers as an alternative to that pen
>as they are cheaper and come in more colors. What about the pen didn't
>work for you?
It has been so long since I've used it that it's hard to remember ...
I tend to make quilts with a lot of different fabrics, and I don't
think I it worked well for me on all shades. I distinctly remember
that I could never get the ink to flow well, so it was hard to get an
intricate design drawn properly. I remember that I felt like I really
had to use a lot of force to get the ink to flow so that I could
create any kind of discernable line ... and that, thinking I might
have just bought a pen that had dried out, I purchased a second one to
see if it was any better, and it wasn't.
I'll definitely try your idea for checking washability of the markers,
and see how it goes on the next quilt. (Well, the next quilt is the
La Conchita hug -- so the quilt after that one!)
Thanks,
Roberta
Roberta (in MD)
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Sandy Foster
Karen Johnson <KJoh...@dabukar.com> wrote:
> I've never had much luck marking a little bit at a time -- I have
> trouble going back and completing the design. Things get wonky and
> skewed, and it's usually a disappointment for me. (I know that this
> says a lot about my skill level as a hand quilter, and if I just keep
> at it, it'll get better ... but I do hate badly quilting a top that I
> just love!)
I used to mark entire quilts all at once, too. But I've had some bad
experiences with that when the weather gets humid and the washout pen
disappears in all the moisture in the air! <G>
>
> Prismacolor? Where would I get it? Generic art supply store like
> Michael's?
Yup. It costs under $1 and is available at Michael's and probably at any
other place that sells artsy stuff. :)
Marcella Peek
Karen Johnson <KJoh...@dabukar.com> wrote:
> This has never occurred to me -- how on earth do you block a bed-sized
> quilt? Most of my quilts are full to queen-sized. When I think of
> blocking I think of lying it flat, shaping it, etc. How do you block
> your quilts?
I have a basement and I spread the quilt onto the floor. You can seem
some nice directions on Sylvia Landman's web page. You will need to
scroll down to "Blocking quilts and pieced or applique blocks"
http://sylvias-studio.com/Sylvia's%20Designs.htm
marcella
Patti
if I can possibly do anything to avoid it' brigade! However, just
yesterday a situation arose where I had no alternative. It was very
dark blue fabric. I started with my soapstone, and as that was a bit
indistinct, I thought I'd try my Chaco pencil that I had for the first
time just been able to sharpen properly. Anyway, by the time I had done
some work on that piece, I could only just see the marks, so I went over
some of them.. I hardly pressed at all, as I drew. Had I been a little
more confident, I would not have needed to do it twice, and I'm sure it
will all have brushed off by the time I have finished the last bit -
even without the little brush provided. I have a very limited range of
marking tools you understand, because of my thorough dislike of the
process.
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melinda
> I have never had any trouble with them not washing out. I always wash my
> quilts when I am done with them anyhow, because I figure the oils in my
> skin might stain if left there, not to mention that they may get a bit
> dirty just from being handled. If I am handquilting, the quilt has been
> laying around the house for awhile, so I figure it could use washing.
> I do try to use a color that will blend in if it doesn't wash out
> completely. For example, I use a red marker on pink fabric or a blue
> marker on dark blue. I figure it will at least fade enough to not be
> noticeable.
> Julia in MN
Just had a thought on this, has anyone tried using water colour pencils
to mark up a quilting design? I've got a couple here I might experiment
with them, when I've got some time to do so.
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Tracey
> So this Crayola washable marker thing really intrigues me. Has anyone
> had trouble getting the lines out? Do they really wash out
> thoroughly?
> \
I haven't had any problems. In fact, I had one quilt that I marked and then
put away for a whole year. Then I quilted it, washed it and the marks
totally came out, without an issue.
I suppose you could spot clean it with a wet cloth with a bit of dish soap
or something, but it would take a long time and be a hassle (IMO). Easier
to just toss it in the washer.
Debra
If you are thinking of the ones usually sold separately in art supply
stores, I'm pretty sure they won't wash out since they have paint
dyes/colorants in them to produce the color. Paint dye/colorant
doesn't wash out. If you are thinking of something made for kids,
you'll have to test the brand because some may use other colorants so
they can be sold as washable.
Debra in VA
melinda
I've got a few Derwent[1] brand watercolour pencils here and did a quick
test this morning. Most of the colour came out two dark colours had
traces left behind but it was a quick hand wash in a bucket so they'd
probably come out in a full washing machine wash. The other test I did
on the same fabric was a fail, I may have to heat treat to pen marks
to see if they'll stay
[1] Also has on the pencils Rexel Cumberland, they were made in
Great Britian.
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Debra
Interesting. Filing the info in my head in case I need it later.
Debra in VA
KI Graham
and Crown
quilt...http://members.shaw.ca/whiskerwerx/gallery/quilts/crosscrown.jpg
then had a horrible 10 minutes or so as I watched it swish around in the
front-load washer, gradually turning the whole white part of the quilt a
minty green. Fortunately, by the end of the cycle, it had all washed out
totally without a trace....but at 3 am the day I was to include it in a
trunk show, there was a moment of absolute panic!
BTW...this quilt is becoming known as the "carpal tunnel quilt". Quilting it
in two days seems to have done in my wrists, after spending years being very
careful not to injure them as a typesetter/desktop publisher. Stupid, stupid
stupid!
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