How far is TOO far?
Leslie & The Furbabies in MO.
Pat on her hill sent the link to me. The quilts are fabulous- just
gorgeous, BUT.... how far is too far??? I would be happier with
calling these "quilts" if the scenes in the quilts were of fabric and
appliqued. I would greatly admire the maker for searching out just the
right fabrics and turning and manipulating the fabrics to make a scene
of this magnitude and intricacy. I realize searching out a beautiful
scene and photographing it properly is an art in itself, but..... is it
what we generally think of as making a quilt top? Running fabric thru
a computer- is *that* making a quilt top?
I appreciate the quiltmakers who stretch their quiltmaking to the
limits and are always looking for something new and different. But at
the same time I have a problem with using printing and painting and
some other techniques. For me quiltmaking means piecing or appliquing-
with fabric- a quilt should have pictures that are appliqued if you
want a face or a flower or a scene- not printed or painted. (I know
"embellishments" have been around forever- where do you draw the
line???) Painting a flower on a piece of fabric and then quilting it
just doesn't seem like a "quilt" to me- altho if it has the layers and
the quilt stitching, I guess it's technically a type of whole cloth
quilt. And some fabric artists take raggedy chunks of fabric and toss
them together and call that a quilt- it's just not what I expect in a
"quilt".
*IF* you were The Honorary Quilt Police for a day how would you define
"A Quilt"? What would be a process or "substance" which would put it
over the edge? What are the basic "requirements" to define a
"quilt"??? Where does quiltmaking end and "textile artist" begin?
Leslie & The Furbabies in MO.
Marcella Peek
those.
Yes, people who make quilts like this probably get credit for amazing
piecing from those who don't know any better. But heck, they don't know
any better.
Did you know Carol Bryer Fallert won a prize in miniature quilts at
Paducah for a quilt like these? Picture and description is in the
current AQS magazine. Seems quilt judges must be ok with it.
Is it my favorite thing? Nope. Will I make one? Unlikely. I like the
piecing and applique so this doesn't thrill me. If I were to do a whole
cloth, it would be to show off the quilting and that's hard to do with
printed fabric like these.
marcella
In article <1152195171.1...@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
SUSAN STRINGFELLOW
was a beautiful "quilt" of (I think) a gigantic chickadee that was painted
on the fabric and then quilted. It just didn't seem like a "quilt" to me,
although a person pointed out to me that it wasn't all that much different
than a whole cloth quilt, just with the added bit of the painting.
"Leslie & The Furbabies in MO." <quilt...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> First, please check out this link-
>
> www.starforestquilts.com
Painting a flower on a piece of fabric and then quilting it
Maria in NC
her photos onto them. That is kinda interesting and certainly creative,
but I don't like the quilts, they give me a headache just looking at them.
I always say if it can't keep my butt warm, it is not a quilt, but I
guess that is a bit too old fashioned a view. I recently looked through
a magazine "for today's quilters" and suddenly I felt old. ;)
Hugs,
Maria
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"In a cat's eye, all things belong to cats."
(English Proverb)
Roberta Zollner
together by lines of stitching going through all layers. So these qualify as
quilts. And IMO they are pretty amazing.
I once saw a photo of a quilt by a Japanese designer who first pieced
something quite intricate and finished quilting it. Then she photographed
that quilt and printed onto fabric. Then cut up the photo fabric and pieced
another quilt out of that.
Most photo quilts by the average quiltmaker IMO are about as enjoyable as
looking at somebody's vacation pictures. The ones on this site challenge the
mind. Wish I could do as well!
Roberta in D
"Leslie & The Furbabies in MO." <quilt...@yahoo.com> schrieb im
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Polly Esther
day, first we have to decide what my goal is. Will I be motivated to
encourage the buying of stuff such as fabric pens, paint and embroidery
machines? Do we define quilt as a wrap for a homeless or ill child? Got to
have some guidelines here before I even consider the job. Naaah. Forget it.
I think it's cheating to use a pen on a quilt, if only to draw eyelashes or
tendrils. On the other hand, I think painting happy eyes on cat faces is
perfectly acceptable. How sweet it is not to have to make any sense at
all. Polly
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Phyllis Nilsson
is "a bedcover made of two layers of cloth filled with down, cotton, wool,
etc. and stitched together in lines or patterns to keep the filling in
place." Bedcover. To me, that is what a quilt is. Something to use on
the bed and to be washed over and over would not need embellishments and
I'm sure if any ink was on a quilt it was because it was spilled.
There is a difference in a quilt and something that is quilted. To me a
quilt (noun) goes on a bed, anything else is a quilted (adjective) wall
hanging, quilted clothing, quilted art, but not "a quilt". A quilt belongs
on a bed and is made to keep people warm. Can you see the pioneer women
making quilted art when their families needed quilts to keep them warm
during winters when the wind whistled through the cracks in the plank
walls?
That said, I've seen some quilted articles that were absolutely gorgeous,
intricate, and intriguing. I can fully understand anyone who would want to
make one (or two or dozens) of them and they require great skill. Yet, if
they don't go on a bed they are quilted art, not a quilt. Both have a
place in our lives, but shouldn't be mistaken for each other.
Maria in NC wrote:
> It looks to me like all she does is create her own fabrics by printing
> her photos onto them. That is kinda interesting and certainly creative,
> but I don't like the quilts, they give me a headache just looking at them.
>
> I always say if it can't keep my butt warm, it is not a quilt, but I
> guess that is a bit too old fashioned a view. I recently looked through
> a magazine "for today's quilters" and suddenly I felt old. ;)
>
> Hugs,
>
> Maria
>
>
>
>
>
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Toledo,Ohio
S
anyway.....
I love some of the art quilts and wish fervantly that someday I will
develop the artistic sensibility and skills to create something even
vaguely artistic. I also love traditional quilts with gazillions of
matching points (groan......) and the look that has been handed down
for generations.
As a beginning quilter, what I feel even more strongly is "long-arm
fear". I was watching a quilting show about some new development in
long arm quilters and the interviewer turned to the camera and said
something like: "this is going to reverberate through the quilting
community. Judges can't help but sit up and take notice of this and you
can be certain that future quilters who want to be winners will adopt
this technology." I realize they were selling a product, but there is
something of truth in that spiel. Even here in my little town, the
quilts that do the "best" in shows are either hand quilted (not even
remotely possible because of my fingers) or long arm quilted. I will
never afford a long arm and I can't even afford to send my quilts out
to be done by somebody else -- besides, isn't it supposed to be MY work
if I enter it as MY quilt? And if it's judged on the quality of MY
work, then why should the amazing work only possible on a long arm
quilter be considered?
I realize I probably don't know what I'm talking about, but I have
friends who are also novice quilters who talk about this same topic. We
all feel we will never be able to aspire to quilty recognition until
one of us wins the lottery and buys a long arm quilter. ;)
sorry, I realize this went way off topic and became a rant. I promise
not to do t his too often.
Sunny
Pat in Virginia
has a challenge every year. This year, I
am the challenge co-diva with another
member. WE two set the rules. This time
our categories include SOLO projects:
ONE person ONLY; and TEAM projects: more
than one person, ALL of whom must be
GUILD MEMBERS. We feel this will 'level
the playing field' for those who do ALL
the work alone. You might suggest these
categories to your group.
PAT in VA/USA
S wrote:
...cut...
Sandy Ellison
Quilting makes the quilt.
IMO ;-)
Many of the responses to your question deal w/ making the top.
In my world, because I love/prefer to quilt, it's the quilting
of my own top that makes it a unique quilt. Handquilting a top
for someone else makes it an heirloom I helped create.
Sending a top to someone else for quilting cuts the credit in half,
as far as I'm concerned. It's a good thing when it means the
quilt is Finished.
Pictures printed on fabric, no piecing involved--if it's quilted,
it's a quilt, IMO. These are fine examples, interesting and pretty.
Seeing these as prize winners makes me question the criteria of the
judges. Is this what they consider to be the best expression of
this art form? Does this represent "Quilt" to them?
Makes me wonder about the judges.
I've seen many, many quilts that won awards for the quilt TOP
rather than for the over-all quilt, esp. those tops (again)
that were quilted by someone other than the top maker,
and esp. those tops that are machine quilted without much style.
I have nothing against this process, this decision to have a
second party do the quilting, I just question the judgment in
competitions that gives the award for the QUILT to the
TOP maker.
Printing a picture for the top isn't much different *for me*
than putting a piece of flannel or fleece on the back without
adding batting--it's all a personal choice.
Many quilt "artists", including Cynthia England, make beautiful
quilts by painting the details on their quilt tops.
Is that cheating? I don't think so. Just a different way to
get to the end product, the quilt they had in mind.
A quilt is useable, in my quilting world.
Other quilted textile pieces are that, quilted wallhanging,
quilted vest, quilted picture, quilted photograph,
quilted textile art. If I were running the show I'd put
each in its own category.
But in my guild they lump the handquilted quilts
into the same category as the
"hand-quided machine" quilted quilts,
seeing no significant difference in techniques
{so I don't enter "their" competition}.
As a quilter I am a textile artist. I can do both, or either. <g>
Quilting is such a big world. Thank goodness.
Ragmop/Sandy
On 7/6/06 9:12 AM, in article
1152195171.1...@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com, "Leslie & The
Don/Gen
quilts, and really have no desire to cut up tiny pieces and try to match
them up. At a show I usually go to the art quilts first, then the rest of
the show. I guess maybe quilting is advancing in new directions that our
ancestors had no way to predict, using products that weren't even dreamed
about in those days. I think there will always be a place for all
quilts-traditional, appliqué, art-painted, machine embroidered, and probably
something we haven't even dreamed of. It'd be fun to come back in 100
years, with a memory of this part of our life, and see what changes have
been made.
Gen
"Leslie & The Furbabies in MO." <quilt...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Pat in Virginia
IIRC. Some attend all/most meetings,
some attend some, some attend none. So,
the answer to your question: yes, a
person could join but not be active.
This challenge, btw, is NOT a show. The
finished projects will be displayed at
both chapter meetings in September. Only
PPQG (guild) members at the meeting will
vote, one vote per member. We do not
have judges. Prizes are not huge
FYI: this year the theme is:
"PPQG Celebrates Virginia: 1607-2007" in
honor of the birthday celebration that
will commence in October.
PAT in VA/USA
Jan wrote:
> Pat, I'm curious... and not to take Leslie's thread too far off track...
> but are there any limitations to keep someone from joining your guild by
> paying dues, but not really showing up or participating until it came
> time to show? And no I'm not planning on doing that.... but as I've
> mentioned previously, I really enjoy the smaller guild shows... the ones
> just held in the basements of churches with no juding, just the love of
> quilting.. but lately those have changed dramatically. We went to one
> about 5 months ago where the majority of the quilts were quilted by the
> same person, same design, but not even bound yet... just a little sign
> saying "under construction" And it was really pretty clear that they
> were done on a computer guided thing too...... so.... not being a member
> of a guild, I'm just curious if there is something to maybe say uhm...
> well.... protect the integrity? of the smaller guild shows? That sounds
> kind of snooty and quilt police like I realize, but .... well.. I
> sincerely hate to see them look like walmart quilts......not that the
> piecing wasn't spectacular.. but.. still....
>
>
frood
member for the workshops we hold. (I know because she told me) She does not
participate in the guild, except to attend workshops and classes we offer
(at a pittance!). As far as I can tell, she has not held office or served on
a committee. She's a Taker, not a Giver. What can we do? Nothing, I guess.
Knowing this side of her did really change how I felt about her as a quilt
artist, tho.
--
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> Pat in Virginia <pat.q...@cox.net> wrote in news:X2crg.316588
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>
>> Sunny: I know what you mean!! My guild
>> has a challenge every year. This year, I
>> am the challenge co-diva with another
>> member. WE two set the rules. This time
>> our categories include SOLO projects:
>> ONE person ONLY; and TEAM projects: more
>> than one person, ALL of whom must be
>> GUILD MEMBERS. We feel this will 'level
>> the playing field' for those who do ALL
>> the work alone. You might suggest these
>> categories to your group.
>> PAT in VA/USA
>>
>
>
> Pat, I'm curious... and not to take Leslie's thread too far off track...
> but are there any limitations to keep someone from joining your guild by
> paying dues, but not really showing up or participating until it came
> time to show? And no I'm not planning on doing that.... but as I've
> mentioned previously, I really enjoy the smaller guild shows... the ones
> just held in the basements of churches with no juding, just the love of
> quilting.. but lately those have changed dramatically. We went to one
> about 5 months ago where the majority of the quilts were quilted by the
> same person, same design, but not even bound yet... just a little sign
> saying "under construction" And it was really pretty clear that they
> were done on a computer guided thing too...... so.... not being a member
> of a guild, I'm just curious if there is something to maybe say uhm...
> well.... protect the integrity? of the smaller guild shows? That sounds
> kind of snooty and quilt police like I realize, but .... well.. I
> sincerely hate to see them look like walmart quilts......not that the
> piecing wasn't spectacular.. but.. still....
>
>
> --
> Jan
> RCTQ Coffee Diva
Jessamy
a quilt is a piece of sewn together fabric (PP, pieced, appliqué) layered
with batting and a backing - a whole cloth as was traditionally made by the
welsh is also a quilt - made to show off the skill of the needlewoman and
it still does today! :-)
the quilt is certainly not one a person would even consider using on a bid
if it had been made the right size for a bed - a WH could, if it had been
made larger, be used on a bed and so is still a quilt for me.
there are days when stuff I make for my personal satisfaction are on the
edge of art - certainly not a quilt one would consider for usage on a bed
and that's ok I do them for fun - to stretch the word quilt to the edge of
quiltiness and sometimes beyond and then I wander off an design a more
traditional pattern :-)
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Take out: so much quilting to reply.
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things. No particular skill level required.
I think the reason many long arm quilted quilts win over many home
machine quilted quilts is the detail in the quilting. In my guild we
have lots of women whose idea of quilted is stitch in the ditch only "so
it doesn't take away from the piecing". Stitch in the ditch alone just
isn't going to win a ribbon.
There are lots of ribbon winning and published quilters who quilt on
home machines and do wonderful work. Don't be discouraged. You can win
ribbons. Heck, I do and up against fabulous long arm quilted projects.
Here are a few home machine quilters so you can see the kinds of things
they do on regular old sewing machines.
Paula Reid http://www.battsintheattic.com/
Kathy Sandbach http://www.machinequiltlady.com/
Diane Gaudynski http://www.dianegaudynski.net/
Hari Walner and Harriet Hargrave also do wonderful stuff. I don't find
a website for Hari and no pictures on Harriet's website (shame on her!)
Keep quilting! Take machine quilting classes when you can. Enjoy it!
marcella
In article <1152206277....@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
Pat in Virginia
office or served on a committee. Some
have never even done white glove duty.
Other people contribute often and
generously of their time and talents. To
paraphrase an old 80/20 maxim: "80% of
the work is done by 20% of the members"
Every social or service club is like
this. I just try not to let it bug me.
I'm cool with my own contributions.
PAT in VA/USA
frood
the loudest about how things are done! Harumph. I love my guild, and I want
to help out so it continues to be an organization I'm proud to be a part of.
(ok, Grammar Police, sorry about that sentence!)
--
Wendy
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Sandy Foster
Marcella Peek <marc...@extra.peek.org> wrote:
> Hi Sunny! I'm glad you popped in and anyone can always comment on
> things. No particular skill level required.
>
> I think the reason many long arm quilted quilts win over many home
> machine quilted quilts is the detail in the quilting. In my guild we
> have lots of women whose idea of quilted is stitch in the ditch only "so
> it doesn't take away from the piecing". Stitch in the ditch alone just
> isn't going to win a ribbon.
>
> There are lots of ribbon winning and published quilters who quilt on
> home machines and do wonderful work. Don't be discouraged. You can win
> ribbons. Heck, I do and up against fabulous long arm quilted projects.
>
> Here are a few home machine quilters so you can see the kinds of things
> they do on regular old sewing machines.
>
> Paula Reid http://www.battsintheattic.com/
>
> Kathy Sandbach http://www.machinequiltlady.com/
>
> Diane Gaudynski http://www.dianegaudynski.net/
>
> Hari Walner and Harriet Hargrave also do wonderful stuff. I don't find
> a website for Hari and no pictures on Harriet's website (shame on her!)
>
> Keep quilting! Take machine quilting classes when you can. Enjoy it!
>
> marcella
Marcella, you beat me to the punch! <G> I was going to mention the same
quilters that you've mentioned above. They do exquisite machine quilting
on home machines, just like the ones available to the rest of us. It
gives us hope.... ;)
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http://home.earthlink.net/~sfoster1
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Sandy Foster
Pat in Virginia <pat.q...@cox.net> wrote:
> Sunny: I know what you mean!! My guild
> has a challenge every year. This year, I
> am the challenge co-diva with another
> member. WE two set the rules. This time
> our categories include SOLO projects:
> ONE person ONLY; and TEAM projects: more
> than one person, ALL of whom must be
> GUILD MEMBERS. We feel this will 'level
> the playing field' for those who do ALL
> the work alone. You might suggest these
> categories to your group.
> PAT in VA/USA
We also divide our categories by how many people participate in making
the quilt. Unfortunately or fortunately (depending on the point of view
<G>), the long-arm quilters in our area all belong to the guild, so your
guild's solution wouldn't work for us. <G>
Sandy Foster
"frood" <frood...@STUFFGriffinsFlight.com> wrote:
> Our guild has a member who is a nationally recognized quilter. She is a
> member for the workshops we hold. (I know because she told me) She does not
> participate in the guild, except to attend workshops and classes we offer
> (at a pittance!). As far as I can tell, she has not held office or served on
> a committee. She's a Taker, not a Giver. What can we do? Nothing, I guess.
> Knowing this side of her did really change how I felt about her as a quilt
> artist, tho.
>
> --
> Wendy
> http://griffinsflight.com/Quilting/quilt1.htm
Wendy, I sympathize. We have a member who lives in the next state from
ours and is a nationally recognized long-arm quilter with many awards
and appearances on TV shows under her belt. She's also a spokesperson
for one brand of long-arm machine. She enters some of the same quilts
that have already taken national awards into our local show. Her stuff
is gorgeous, but I don't think it's fair of her to deprive someone less
well-known from enjoying a ribbon or two, especially since these quilts
have already been in far more prestigious shows than ours and since the
quilter attends absolutely *no* events here.
Pati Cook
quilted" out from the others now. And you are supposed to list both who
"made" the quilt and who quilted it.
However, not all quilters do this as they should. :(
I agree, if one person does all the work it should be judged differently
from items where more than one does the work. But then I also think
that all long arm quilting should be judged differently than regular,
domestic machine quilting. And both are different than hand quilting.
there are places and times for all. <BG>
Pati, in Phx
Pati Cook
of some sort, then used that fabric to make quilts?? Are they not
pieced from the photo fabric??
I notice that many of the quilts in the gallery list someone else as the
quilter or are winners in group categories.
As to what is a quilt?? Well, the classic definition is that it is
composed of three layers, a top, batting/wadding, and back. Is fabric.
and is sewn together with thread through all three layers.
However, just as many other things in the world change, and without
change we all die.... so quilting has been and will change.
I look at it as a healthy growth that encourages ever more people to
join the quilting community.
One of the other groups I am a part of is the Society for Creative
Anachronism, which for many years "promoted" what they do as
"re-creating the Middle Ages, as they *should* have been. That is with
much of the good stuff in arts, crafts and so on, and without things
like plague and fleas and garderobes. <G> That group has also changed
and grown considerably over the years, and in a much shorter time than
quilting.
Some of the changes we have seen, or at least know about:
the advent of polyester battings. And of better cotton and cotton
blend ones, as well as washable wool batts.
the rotary cutter and all the rulers/templates and such that go along
with it.
the use of the sewing machine for both piecing and quilting.
photo transfers and photos printed directly on fabric.
wider fabrics, both for piecing and extra wide for backing.
many more prints available from a growing number of fabric manufacturers.
the poly-cotton blend fabrics, and back to 100% cotton fabrics.
use of fusibles for so many things
the plethora of thread types for piecing, appliquéing and quilting
new tools for marking quilts easier
much more accurate piecing
easier ways to design, lay out and finish quilts.
And so many more that it is difficult to think of many of them. <VBG>
Personally I think that quilts of any definition are textile art. If it
is used on a bed, in a bedroll, on a wall, by a kid, elderly person,
newlywed, or even a pet.
As long as fabric and comfort are included then I won't quibble. (I like
to make quilts backed with fleece which acts as batting and backing....
for here in Arizona that is plenty. and they are comfy-cozy.)
What would put it "over the edge"..... when it moves beyond fabric with
some embellishments and becomes embellishments attached to fabric. When
there is nothing at all comforting, to viewer/user or maker.
That is when I feel it moves beyond being any kind of quilt.
Quilts can be disturbing to view, or bring a kind of sadness (like the
9-11 quilts and some very personal "angst" quilts) but they generally
result in a sense of comfort or release for someone.
When I see a beautiful photo of a quilt and find that it is painted and
then quilted, I am disappointed. But it is still a quilt. And a piece of
art. Many people consider the quilts from Gee's Bend to be beautiful
pieces of art, but they were made as utility bed coverings. (And I am
not fond of them, personally.<G> ) The quilt I have that came from my
mother-in-laws family is gorgeous. It barely makes the "quilt"
definition because it was made in Georgia and has very little batting in
it. Made as a bed covering it is still a beautiful piece.
I make quilts to be used. But some of them may be used on the wall. Not
necessarily what I meant for them, but if that is what the recipient
wants, then so be it. They may not be sized for a bed, but are made to
be cuddled with, as a couch throw or whatever. My husband says they are
art, and his is the observation that all quilters are artists. Whether
they think they are or not.
Much too long,
Sorry bout that,
Pati, in Phx who has to get ready to head out for the annual AASK sew in
at the PAQA meeting today. And ice cream social after the business
meeting.......... <VBG>
blackrosequilts
> *IF* you were The Honorary Quilt Police for a day how would you define
> "A Quilt"?
I wouldn't. Makes it too easy to decide who's making a *real* quilt and
who isn't and use it as a means of judging someone and their quilts as
inferior in order to feel important and superior. Nuh uh.
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> I would be happier with
> calling these "quilts" if the scenes in the quilts were of fabric and
> appliqued. I would greatly admire the maker for searching out just the
> right fabrics and turning and manipulating the fabrics to make a scene
> of this magnitude and intricacy. I realize searching out a beautiful
> scene and photographing it properly is an art in itself, but..... is it
> what we generally think of as making a quilt top? Running fabric thru
> a computer- is *that* making a quilt top?
I mostly hang out on folk music forums, and on one of them we have
the catchword "Horse Alert!" which means we have a discussion on
"What Is Folk Music?" and somebody is *yet again* about to pull out
that Big Bill Broonzy quote about jazz, that it was folk music
because "I ain't heard no horse singin' it".
I see what you mean - though the only one I really like is the "fall
dogwood leaves" - but as somebody who has both used fabric paint on
a quilt and plays the electronic bagpipes, I can't really argue with
what they're doing.
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together and something to be used... if they are too
small/delicate/special/extraordinary to be used, then they fall into Ms.
Sairey's WUH category... or wall hangings or textile art And all of that
would be in the eye of the beholder and/or maker <grin> i.e. If the result
is just a picture on fabric with only a little stitching to hold it
together, *I* wouldn't consider it a quilt, but art. If it is a picture on
fabric with wonderful quilting stitches that add to the effect and make it
whole... I would have to decide upon seeing it in person (not much help
there, eh?)
That said... these look to be fabric that she designed (by reproducing
photographs) and then pieced together... so they aren't really whole cloth -
or not all of them are.
Is transferring photographs onto cloth all that different from hand dying or
stamping as they do in batiks or painting fabric to get your own desired
results?
I think this is telling me i need to design my own fabric and make some
quilted pieces to decide for myself! may have to wait til the kids are
back in school so i have time to sink into the paints and dyes....
Kellie
btw, I like her pieces but there weren't many i would want to snuggle under.
i would be afraid of ruining most of them.
"Leslie & The Furbabies in MO." <quilt...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1152195171.1...@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> First, please check out this link-
>
> www.starforestquilts.com
>
> Pat on her hill sent the link to me. The quilts are fabulous- just
> gorgeous, BUT.... how far is too far??? I would be happier with
> calling these "quilts" if the scenes in the quilts were of fabric and
> appliqued. I would greatly admire the maker for searching out just the
> right fabrics and turning and manipulating the fabrics to make a scene
> of this magnitude and intricacy. I realize searching out a beautiful
> scene and photographing it properly is an art in itself, but..... is it
> what we generally think of as making a quilt top? Running fabric thru
> a computer- is *that* making a quilt top?
>
> I appreciate the quiltmakers who stretch their quiltmaking to the
> limits and are always looking for something new and different. But at
> the same time I have a problem with using printing and painting and
> some other techniques. For me quiltmaking means piecing or appliquing-
> with fabric- a quilt should have pictures that are appliqued if you
> want a face or a flower or a scene- not printed or painted. (I know
> "embellishments" have been around forever- where do you draw the
> line???) Painting a flower on a piece of fabric and then quilting it
> just doesn't seem like a "quilt" to me- altho if it has the layers and
> the quilt stitching, I guess it's technically a type of whole cloth
> quilt. And some fabric artists take raggedy chunks of fabric and toss
> them together and call that a quilt- it's just not what I expect in a
> "quilt".
>
> *IF* you were The Honorary Quilt Police for a day how would you define
> "A Quilt"? What would be a process or "substance" which would put it
> over the edge? What are the basic "requirements" to define a
> "quilt"??? Where does quiltmaking end and "textile artist" begin?
>
Polly Esther
stiperlation. First, you are go write on blackboard's 100 times, "I be not
using proposition to end sentence's with." Polly (That was such fun I may
do it again some time. Bet it just curdles our Pats.)
"frood" wrote, in part > and I want to help out so it continues to be an
NightMist
I didn't look at each and every quilt zoomed in and close up, but the
ones I did look at appear to be pieced.
So she is designing her own fabric and piecing quilts of it.
Not much different from what I do. I often carry out my own textile
surface design and then make quilts of it. I just don't use a
computer.
On my long list of when I get a round tuit quilts, is one that is dye
painted in the style of early twentieth century children's book
illustration. Sort of custom making my own cheater panel on a grand
scale. I would then bat it, back it and quilt it, then when it was
finished probably give it away to some kid. So it would get snuggled
and drooled on and used for a tent, and generally have a life as a
proper quilt. Will it _be_ a proper quilt since I will paint the top
instead of piecing or appliqueing it? Of course it will.
The quilts this lady makes are all doomed to a life as an objet d'art
instead of ever getting to be a superman cape. That is sad, but they
are still quilts.
NightMist
overly influenced by "The Velveteen Rabbit" as a child
On 6 Jul 2006 07:12:52 -0700, "Leslie & The Furbabies in MO."
<quilt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
--
The wolf that understands fire has much to eat.
Teacher Gal
Polly wrote:
> On behalf's of the Grammar's Police, you apology are accept with
> stiperlation. First, you are go write on blackboard's 100 times, "I be
> not using proposition to end sentence's with." Polly (That was such fun
> I may do it again some time. Bet it just curdles our Pats.)
And on behalf of the resident linguists in the house....
ouch.
Although I tend to side with those who note that we've been ending sentences
with prepositions for centuries. I can recall some uses in the 1300's that
contained horrific grammar errors by our modern standards (and by their
Middle English ones as well)!
:-)
Anastasia
--who got a bit done on the quilted purse yesterday, and cut a few pieces
for her nephew's Minkee quilt, too!
Donna in Idaho
Chatelain. She paints wonderful scenes (a lot of them African) and then
quilts them. They are absolutely gorgeous.
Donna in Idaho
"Leslie & The Furbabies in MO." <quilt...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Patti
I could forgive the 'prop' for 'prep'; even the 'with' at the end; but
those apostrophes - eek!
>g<
.
In message <0Lirg.4167$PE1....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>, Polly
Esther <miste...@mindspring.com> writes
--
Best Regards
pat on the hill
Jessamy
native English speaker style to me - it gets worse when it's the "English"
teacher doing this <shudder>
--
Jessamy
In The Netherlands
Take out: so much quilting to reply.
Time to accept, time to grow, time to take things slow
www.geocities.com/jess_ayad
http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jessamy_thompson/my_photos
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ugh! That's like fingernails on a blackboard!
I could forgive the 'prop' for 'prep'; even the 'with' at the end; but
those apostrophes - eek!
>g<
witchystitcher
sentences than can be interpreted in silly ways in their own writings
or commercial writings. One of my favorites was a letter written after
a presentation on origami.
"Last night I made origami birds with my friends. When we were all
done I hung them from the ceiling."
Jessamy
--
Jessamy
In The Netherlands
Take out: so much quilting to reply.
Time to accept, time to grow, time to take things slow
www.geocities.com/jess_ayad
http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jessamy_thompson/my_photos
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Pat in Virginia
The SHOW committee makes the rules, and
it can exclude quilts. Example: 'No
quilts that have won awards at major
shows will be included in the
competition. They may be hung in a
section for exhibition only.'
PAT
Kathy Applebaum
"S" <shem...@genext.net> wrote in message
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>And if it's judged on the quality of MY
> work, then why should the amazing work only possible on a long arm
> quilter be considered?
Can you give me an example of something that's only possible on a long arm?
I've quilted on both my home sewing machine and my longarm for years, and
there's nothing I can do on the longarm that can't be done on the home
machine. (I'm excluding computer controlled patterns, mainly because I
haven't seen one that will make judges sit up and take notice).
--
Kathy A. (Woodland, CA)
Queen of Fabric Tramps
http://www.kayneyquilting.com , mailto:Kat...@KayneyNOSPAMQuilting.com
remove the obvious to reply
Pat in Virginia
think it would still work, in that it
would separate the people who do all
their own work. It is one way to give
them at least a fighting chance.
Most of the long armers are members
here, too. That is fine with me. We were
distressed that in previous
shows/challenges the people who sent out
quilt tops (hand or machine) were
competing with people who did their all
own work.
PAT in VA/USA
Pat in Virginia
Ideally, there would be a precise and
specific division of techniques, etc.
This is appropriate for shows like MAQF
or Houston, or maybe large guilds. In
our challenge we only get between 40 to
75 quilts. If we break the groups
further, we'd have some groups with only
one or two quilts! Even in our shows, we
only have about 175 -200 quilts, IIRC. YMMV.
I changed the topic because categories
would include HQ as well as MQ.
PAT
Julia in MN
> "S" <shem...@genext.net> wrote in message
> news:1152206277....@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>> And if it's judged on the quality of MY
>> work, then why should the amazing work only possible on a long arm
>> quilter be considered?
>
> Can you give me an example of something that's only possible on a long arm?
> I've quilted on both my home sewing machine and my longarm for years, and
> there's nothing I can do on the longarm that can't be done on the home
> machine. (I'm excluding computer controlled patterns, mainly because I
> haven't seen one that will make judges sit up and take notice).
characterize them as amazing based on the ones I've seen :). And it
would be possible to do similar allover designs on a home machine.
Julia in MN
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Marcella Peek
to write who did the quilting, whether or not they were a professional
and what kind of machine it was done on for machine quilting. This was
typed on the sign that was pinned for each quilt. This way, people
could read the description and see that the quilt was done by the maker,
a friend, or a professional, on a home - short arm - long arm - computer
guided - stitch regulator - etc machine. Our show was held at the town
wine festival so most of the viewers were non quilters. We got lots of
questions about the different types of quilting and what that meant.
So, I think that was a good thing.
Like you, we don't have enough quilts entered for judging (you can
choose to have your entries judged or just displayed) to divide
everything up. There were comments about re-arranging some things but
we'll have to wait two years to see what happens there.
marcella
In article <8%trg.316651$5Z.311628@dukeread02>,
Pat in Virginia <pat.q...@cox.net> wrote:
Kathy Applebaum
"Jan" <maketim...@nospam.serendipityquilting.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97F95FA7F1BEEma...@207.217.125.201...
> Julia in MN <jaccola-AT-cha...@aaaaa.aaa> wrote in
> news:75urg.3$48...@fe06.lga:
>
>> Kathy Applebaum wrote:
>>> "S" <shem...@genext.net> wrote in message
>>> news:1152206277....@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>>>> And if it's judged on the quality of MY
>>>> work, then why should the amazing work only possible on a long arm
>>>> quilter be considered?
>>>
>>> Can you give me an example of something that's only possible on a
>>> long arm? I've quilted on both my home sewing machine and my longarm
>>> for years, and there's nothing I can do on the longarm that can't be
>>> done on the home machine. (I'm excluding computer controlled
>>> patterns, mainly because I haven't seen one that will make judges sit
>>> up and take notice).
> They do exist for hinterberg frames that you can put a home machine on
> as well as I think PC quilter works with a home machine as computer
> guided.
Sorry I didn't make myself clear. Too early in the morning here!
I was thinking (but obviously not saying) that there's nothing I can do on
my longarm that I can't do on an plain straight stitch home machine that has
no extra gizmos on it, except a hopping foot. That's why I excluded the
computer controlled patterns. :)
joan8904 in Bellevue Nebraska
A disclaimer here. I do work at a shop that has a Statler stitcher,
which is a computer guided long arm set-up. Operating the machine,
while not an art form, does require some skill, patience and training.
(And speaking as one with shoulder problems, I cannot duplicate the
quilting on my home machine on a king-sized quilt. Done it in the
past; those days are gone.)
Our side-to-side patterns are not appropriate for every quilt. And
we're quick to tell customers that. But I will say, for the price, it
is an excellent solution to the 'too many tops; not enough quilts'
dilemma that many seem to find themselves in.
Not for everyone, but it is a delight to unfold a newly quilted quilt
for a customer and see the light in their eyes! Makes me smile every
time!
joan
>
> I'm thinking there needs to be a new slogan.... when you want
> finished... but better than just done.
>
> --
> Jan
> RCTQ Coffee Diva
Kathy Applebaum
>
> Now see... if you had coffee, you'd wake up faster <vbg>
Yeah, spewing it all over the kitchen and then sprinting to the bathroom to
brush my teeth twenty times WOULD wake me up. ROFLOL
Kathy Applebaum
> "Kathy Applebaum" <Kat...@KayneyNOSPAMQuilting.com> wrote in
> news:Sjwrg.127464$dW3....@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com:
>
>>
>> "Jan" <maketim...@nospam.serendipityquilting.com> wrote in
>> message news:Xns97F96C185F6BAma...@207.217.125.201...
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Now see... if you had coffee, you'd wake up faster <vbg>
>>
>> Yeah, spewing it all over the kitchen and then sprinting to the
>> bathroom to brush my teeth twenty times WOULD wake me up. ROFLOL
>>
>
You couldn't pay me enough to make it worthwhile. ;-P
Debra
<frood...@STUFFGriffinsFlight.com> wrote:
>Yeah, I know. And the ones who don't help are usually the ones who complain
>the loudest about how things are done! Harumph. I love my guild, and I want
>to help out so it continues to be an organization I'm proud to be a part of.
>(ok, Grammar Police, sorry about that sentence!)
That sentence was written in perfect Southern colloquialism. I see
nothing wrong with that, but then I'm Southern. ;-)
Debra in VA
See my quilts at
http://community.webshots.com/user/debplayshere
Pat in Virginia
out basting!! One needs to baste for MQ
on the SM, with out extra frames, etc. PAT
Kathy Applebaum
you can also work a bigger area without rerolling the quilt, some longarms
will let you load more thread on the bobbin, yada yada yada. *grin*
I'm still trying to find out what is it that will impress the judges that's
only possible on a longarm...
--
Kathy A. (Woodland, CA)
Queen of Fabric Tramps
http://www.kayneyquilting.com , mailto:Kat...@KayneyNOSPAMQuilting.com
remove the obvious to reply
"Pat in Virginia" <pat.q...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Sandy Ellison
> I'm still trying to find out what is it that will impress the judges that's
> only possible on a longarm...
Me, too. <snort> ;-D
Ragmop/Sandy--handquilter
On 7/8/06 12:43 PM, in article
29Srg.36157$VE1....@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com, "Kathy Applebaum"
Polly Esther
longarming would impress any judges, even those that must surely be blind
and prejudiced to boot. My opinion of judges is not very kind but I do have
great respect for your wonderful talent. So there. Take that. Polly
"Kathy Applebaum" wrote
Kathy Applebaum
"Polly Esther" <miste...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> Oh for Heaven's sake, Kathy. The answer is "you". I am certain that your
> longarming would impress any judges, even those that must surely be blind
> and prejudiced to boot. My opinion of judges is not very kind but I do
> have great respect for your wonderful talent. So there. Take that.
> Polly
Oh, sure, butter me up. But I can do all that on a home sewing machine, too.
:)
Polly Esther
candle to my buttering but I am a professional).
"Kathy Applebaum" wrote > Oh, sure, butter me up. But I can do all that on a
home sewing machine, too.
Kathy Applebaum
--
Kathy A. (Woodland, CA)
Queen of Fabric Tramps
http://www.kayneyquilting.com , mailto:Kat...@KayneyNOSPAMQuilting.com
remove the obvious to reply
"Polly Esther" <miste...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Kathy Applebaum
> "Kathy Applebaum" <Kat...@KayneyNOSPAMQuilting.com> wrote in
>
>> My quilting can't hold candles at all, even though I have a long arm. ;-P
>>
>
>
That's something my quilt group NEVER accuses me of! ROFLOL
Sandy Foster
"Kathy Applebaum" <Kat...@KayneyNOSPAMQuilting.com> wrote:
> "Polly Esther" <miste...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:URSrg.4827$PE1....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > Oh for Heaven's sake, Kathy. The answer is "you". I am certain that your
> > longarming would impress any judges, even those that must surely be blind
> > and prejudiced to boot. My opinion of judges is not very kind but I do
> > have great respect for your wonderful talent. So there. Take that.
> > Polly
>
> Oh, sure, butter me up. But I can do all that on a home sewing machine, too.
> :)
Which makes you even more phenomenal! <g>
--
Sandy in Henderson, near Las Vegas
my ISP is earthlink.net -- put sfoster1(at) in front
http://home.earthlink.net/~sfoster1
AKA Dame Sandy, Minister of Education
Debra
<quilt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>First, please check out this link-
>
>www.starforestquilts.com
>
>Pat on her hill sent the link to me. The quilts are fabulous- just
>gorgeous, BUT.... how far is too far??? I would be happier with
>calling these "quilts" if the scenes in the quilts were of fabric and
>appliqued. I would greatly admire the maker for searching out just the
>right fabrics and turning and manipulating the fabrics to make a scene
>of this magnitude and intricacy. I realize searching out a beautiful
>scene and photographing it properly is an art in itself, but..... is it
>what we generally think of as making a quilt top? Running fabric thru
>a computer- is *that* making a quilt top?
>
>I appreciate the quiltmakers who stretch their quiltmaking to the
>limits and are always looking for something new and different. But at
>the same time I have a problem with using printing and painting and
>some other techniques. For me quiltmaking means piecing or appliquing-
>with fabric- a quilt should have pictures that are appliqued if you
>want a face or a flower or a scene- not printed or painted.
>
>(I know
>"embellishments" have been around forever- where do you draw the
>line???) Painting a flower on a piece of fabric and then quilting it
>just doesn't seem like a "quilt" to me- altho if it has the layers and
>the quilt stitching, I guess it's technically a type of whole cloth
>quilt. And some fabric artists take raggedy chunks of fabric and toss
>them together and call that a quilt- it's just not what I expect in a
>"quilt".
>
>*IF* you were The Honorary Quilt Police for a day how would you define
>"A Quilt"? What would be a process or "substance" which would put it
>over the edge? What are the basic "requirements" to define a
>"quilt"??? Where does quiltmaking end and "textile artist" begin?
>
>Leslie & The Furbabies in MO.
Leslie, virtually all quilters are textile artists. Even you. The
minute you decided to use something other than a plain square grid for
a quilting pattern you were choosing art over need. The minute you
used one fabric instead of another because of color or print size you
were using your artistic view point. Every time you pick up a piece
of fabric and say to yourself, "This would look pretty if I used it
this way." you are being a textile artist.
What is the difference between using custom printed cloth, ready made
printed cloth, or solid white fabric for a quilt? Sure you could
custom print the picture of a pieced quilt at that site, but how is
that really any different from buying cheater cloth at the fabric
store? Why does it bother you so much that someone might use it that
way anyway? Not everyone has the talent to piece blocks or do
applique, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't try to quilt at all.
Some of the most beautiful quilts I've seen are whole cloth quilts.
Should whole cloth quilters be limited to only using plain white
cloth? I don't think they should.
Beyond that, custom printing fabric can be used in quilting in lots of
ways. This site isn't the first place I've seen that custom prints
fabric, it's just the first I've seen geared specifically towards
quilters. The quilts pictured seem to be pieced out of cloth with
photos printed on them, not whole cloth. This site points out that it
is possible to print more than one picture per piece of cloth, and
that you should allow blank space between the pictures for cutting
them apart and the seam allowance. It could produce many photos on
fabric for memory quilts (all on one piece of fabric), or allow you to
produce an original design print from your own drawing. You could
print special applique pieces (like faces and hands) if you wanted, or
lots of ready to use quilt labels, or fabric quilt guild logos for the
guild's members, or even individual quilt block pieces (in several
color ways and various prints that you designed) to cut out and stitch
together into a block. How cool would it be to piece a quilt top with
different prints you designed yourself?
Like other inventions, custom printed fabric is whatever you want to
make of it. It seems to me you are too busy condemning custom printed
fabric (and it's users) to even think of the many ways you could put
it to good use for yourself.
Val
uncooperative and kept breathing. I got home and my pc monitor had gone
toes up instead of me. Took a while to get a replacement, for the monitor,
not for me (the monitor was a 12 year old freebee....they just don't make
things to last anymore LOL) and now I can't find the entire thread to this
post. Hopefully I haven't misunderstood what was being said; but from what I
did get, and after looking at the website from the previous poster (the one
Debra included in her answer), I'd also like to reply.
Well said, Debra. My passion is gardening and sewing, in that order. I have
had friends say......."I should plant _____ like you do." My answer is
"why?" I design what I sew, embroider and also do a little quilting when
the metaphoric loaded gun is held to my head. I don't use patterns or pre
printed anything. I have other friends, who live for the $1 or 2-fer
pattern sales and use kits for everything, and say, "I should learn to make
_____ like you do." I answer "why?" Do what you want, not what you think I
would do or anyone else thinks is best for you. Do what gives you joy,
there's too little to be found, don't squander it on small stuff, like an
inconsequential negative opinion. I put this into the category of small
stuff because these generally come from small people with small minds that
couldn't sh*t a BB if you greased it. We aren't building a rocket ship that
needs to get the crew back to Earth, this isn't life or death brain surgery.
These things are artistic self expression, SELF being the operative word. I
think if you like what you are doing, it gives you joy and a sense of
accomplishment, even if it's sewing around the marked seam allowance of a
toy teddy bear kit printed on a square of cotton blend with poly fill
included.......you are doing what gives you pleasure. Go for it! If the only
thing that gives you pleasure is to criticize those people that don't color
inside YOUR lines you need to keep it to yourself.
I have a lovely elderly (she claims to be 310 &1/2) lady friend that gives
me "embroidered hankies". She stitches a square with yarn in the corner of
a cotton handkerchief and then colors a picture with pencils in the square.
I thank her sincerely and praise her for her unique style of embroidery and
ingenuity. I think unless you are entering a contest with hard and fast
rules and regulations about what is acceptable then lighten up and grasp the
joyous concept of unique ingenuity and creativities that we all have but
have often kept hidden for fear of "not doing it right"; we just have
different levels and styles that fit our unique and ingenious selves. There
is no right or wrong in this case, it's in the eye of the beholder. Ask
yourself.....if I do this will anyone actually drop dead within a 50 mile
radius because I tried this? If the answer is "no" then go give it a try! If
you don't like what you see of other's art and/or craft, shut your eyes,
don't look. Where do you draw the line? Well, I guess it depends on why you
are drawing it. If it's drawn to keep some new expression, idea or concept
all skwooshed up and enclosed until it's finally DEAD and then withers away
then go draw it waaaaaaaaaay over there....*pointing to a far horizon*
This newsgroup, of all that I monitor and sometimes (albeit seldom) post to
has one of the most diverse groups of personalities I've encountered. The
great majority are also some of the most accepting, loving, tolerant,
supportive and humorous people I have found. I honestly think if somebody
proudly posted a picture of a velvet painting of dogs playing poker that had
been "quilted" with a stapler because it was the only thing they could work
with or the only skills possessed, more people would find good things to say
or not comment at all rather than make critical remarks as the thread
morphed into making rain boots for DGS hamster, to chocolate, to engine
repair, to chocolate, to DD engagement, to chocolate and then fade off into
the beautifully pieced and quilted night sky of stars and moons. I know I
don't take part often in discussions in this newsgroup, mostly a lurker
because quilting isn't my favorite thing to do but I do love reading the
chat and absorbing good feelings that are here as well as learning a thing
or two, or many...........and the universal quest for stash and chocolate,
not necessarily in that order, I hold close to my heart. <BG>
Val
P.S...............and when I post that picture of the stapled, velvet dog
playing poker quilt I will, of course, include a coupon for free chocolates,
just to grease the wheels of praise ;)
"Debra" <debn...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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Teacher Gal
Oh, Val! I could NOT agree with you more! I got giggles from the 'quilted
with staples' part, and couldn't help but love the overall humor of a post
that has, more eloquently than I ever could, explained exactly my thoughts
on the matter.
I'm coming over to play with you more often! I'll even bring chocolates!
Anastasia
--who's currently working away with Minkee.....does anyone else inhale it as
often as I do? *cough cough*
KJ
giggle, you got my day started off right.
Now, where did I put that stapler???
KJ
"Val" <ya-...@yabetcha.com> wrote in message
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Pat in Virginia
Thanks for your post. I hope you post
here more often. Don't forget to send a
pound or two of chocolate to my Palace,
to be tasted and vetted.
I am sure your Velvet painting of Dogs
Playing Poker will lend itself very
nicely to the Staple Gun method of
quilting. Please post pictures! :)
PAT, Official Chocolate Taster Of RCTQ
Val wrote:
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How on earth did you know about my stapline quilting method?????? ;)
Thanks for a wonderful post. I love your perspective and your sense of
humor. Also your apparent generosity with chocolate. Hope to run into
you more often.
Sunny
Kathy Applebaum
> of dogs playing poker that had been "quilted" with a stapler
I am SO tempted to make this quilt now! ROFLOL Especially because back in
the days when I did the displays for our store, I frequently "hung"
wallpaper and fabric with a stapler. The wallpaper contractors just *loved*
to stand at the bottom of the ladder giving me a bad time about my hanging
technique. *grin*
Thanks for a wonderful, thoughtful post!
Pat in Virginia
thinking of Elvis Painting on Velvet,
with Multicolor Staples.
BTW: Our Kris in NoVA *did* put staples
in a journal quilt! It was clever and
well done.
PAT in VA/USA
Kay Ahr
the pattern was those dogs playing poker!
Kay Ahr in Reno/Sparks, Nevada
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Debra
<pat.q...@cox.net> wrote:
>You go ahead and do it Kathy! I ws
>thinking of Elvis Painting on Velvet,
>with Multicolor Staples.
>BTW: Our Kris in NoVA *did* put staples
>in a journal quilt! It was clever and
>well done.
>PAT in VA/USA
Oh, Pat, don't you think it would work out better if you used one of
those Bedazzler rhinestone and silver stud appliers rather than the
staples for the Elvis quilt? The rhinestones would add to that whole
Vegas vibe or make that famous white outfit absolutely sparkle.
Debra
Polly Esther
stapled from ceiling to floor instead. A dogs playing cards, Elvis or
Bedazzler might be just the decorator touch she's been looking for. Could
we call this a quilt? Polly
Pat in Virginia
and I want to go with an "Early Elvis"
rather than a "Vegas Elvis!" I do not
want to go over the top! A couple of
silver and gold studs, some rhinestones,
and a cool set of multicolored staples
should be sparkly, yet tasteful.
PAT in VA/USA
Maureen Wozniak
local chapter of the American Sewing Guild. This past year I haven't done
much with or for either guild, but mainly because of things going on at work
and home. So to some it would that I don't contribute at all. However, for
4 years I planned programs for the sewing guild. Even if I did have time to
participate right now, I don't think I would want to. I'm just burned out. I
think it is the same for many of the older members of our quilt guild. Also,
many of the younger members have full time jobs and families. It's often
hard not to judge people, especially if you are one of the 20% who seems to
do all the work. But I try to remember that you don't always know what is
going on at home. For some, it might be a struggle just to get to the show
for a couple or hours or to a monthly meeting.
On the other hand, there are clearly people who will always complain about
what is/has been done, but never volunteer to help. You'll just never
satisfy those people.
On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 14:15:09 -0500, Pat in Virginia wrote
(in article <Vidrg.316594$5Z.276793@dukeread02>):
> Wendy: We have members who have not held
> office or served on a committee. Some
> have never even done white glove duty.
> Other people contribute often and
> generously of their time and talents. To
> paraphrase an old 80/20 maxim: "80% of
> the work is done by 20% of the members"
> Every social or service club is like
> this. I just try not to let it bug me.
> I'm cool with my own contributions.
> PAT in VA/USA
>
> frood wrote:
>> Our guild has a member who is a nationally recognized quilter. She is a
>> member for the workshops we hold. (I know because she told me) She does not
>> participate in the guild, except to attend workshops and classes we offer
>> (at a pittance!). As far as I can tell, she has not held office or served
>> on
>> a committee. She's a Taker, not a Giver. What can we do? Nothing, I guess.
>> Knowing this side of her did really change how I felt about her as a quilt
>> artist, tho.
>>
Taria
a solution or a fix complaining isn't helping much. There are a few
that do a lot for my local guild. There are those that do things that
are high profile and those that do the dirty work with no attention
or notice. I guess that will often happen with a group.
We have a member that doesn't do any charity quilts but often comes to
the whole group with her pet charity begging up quilts. That irks me.
Taria
Kathy Applebaum
> On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 22:40:15 -0400, Pat in Virginia
> <pat.q...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>You go ahead and do it Kathy! I ws
>>thinking of Elvis Painting on Velvet,
>>with Multicolor Staples.
>>BTW: Our Kris in NoVA *did* put staples
>>in a journal quilt! It was clever and
>>well done.
>>PAT in VA/USA
>
> Oh, Pat, don't you think it would work out better if you used one of
> those Bedazzler rhinestone and silver stud appliers rather than the
> staples for the Elvis quilt? The rhinestones would add to that whole
> Vegas vibe or make that famous white outfit absolutely sparkle.
I do have one, along with several thousand crystals... bwa ha ha!
Kathy Applebaum
"Pat in Virginia" <pat.q...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> You go ahead and do it Kathy! I ws thinking of Elvis Painting on Velvet,
> with Multicolor Staples.
When a friend who was an art teacher retired, my Mom bought him several
yards of black velvet and labeled it "retirement income". That way he could
make paintings of Elvis and sell them at the flea market. He laughed and
laughed at that. :)
Me? I'm more of a "dogs playing poker" kind of artist. *grin*
KJ
win!
KJ
Kathy Applebaum
I must have been a raven in a previous life because I am definitely
fascinated with bright, sparkly things. Crystals, metallic fabrics, you name
it. Next thing you know I'll be dropping nuts on the sidewalk to crack them.
LOL
--
Kathy A. (Woodland, CA)
Queen of Fabric Tramps
http://www.kayneyquilting.com , mailto:Kat...@KayneyNOSPAMQuilting.com
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"KJ" <KJo...@NOSPAMmchsi.com> wrote in message
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Sandy Foster
Taria <taria...@verizon.net> wrote:
> My response to the complainers is to fix the problem. If you can't find
> a solution or a fix complaining isn't helping much. There are a few
> that do a lot for my local guild. There are those that do things that
> are high profile and those that do the dirty work with no attention
> or notice. I guess that will often happen with a group.
Amen, Taria! One of the years that I was the scribing committee chair, a
woman called to blast me about the categories -- obviously, she didn't
like them because she had a quilt that didn't fit into any of them.
Actually, she called my house and left me a message to call her back,
which I did because I didn't know she was upset -- and it was a toll
call. Grrr... Anyway, I finally told her that she could easily fix the
problem by volunteering to be the committee chair next year. LOL! She
hung up! Needless to say, she didn't volunteer for anything and never
does.
Pat in Virginia
I've been a member of this guild for
nearly 12 years. I am not talking about
people who aren't volunteering this
year, or last year, or even 2003. I am
talking about people who have NEVER
volunteered. Some of the jobs are so
easy ... done entirely at the meeting.
So, it seems to me that if one shows up
every time, one could take a job now and
then. JMO. Also, if people sign up with
a friend, they have a 'back up' for
those times when they can't attend.
That's what I've done.
PAT in VA/USA
frood
to the meeting, you say to the President that you are able to help, and she
gives you a job - holding quilts for Show & Tell, showing around new
members, turning off/on lights for the slide show, etc. At the end of the
evening, you get a FQ for helping. I have a guild friend who has a great
deal of personal commitments to her family, and she likes to help out this
way. She doesn't do it every meeting; sometimes she just likes to sit and
relax, but it offers her a way to help out.
And yes, the person I was talking about has never held a position in the
guild, doesn't help with the annual show, or at the meetings. She only comes
for the workshops, and then brags about it.
--
Wendy
http://griffinsflight.com/Quilting/quilt1.htm
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"Pat in Virginia" <pat.q...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Denise in NH
> posted a picture of a velvet painting of
> dogs playing poker that had been
> "quilted" with a stapler because it was
> the only thing they could work with or
> the only skills possessed, more people
> would find good things to say or not
Hey! I resemble that remark!! <grin>
When I was a little kid I absolutely loved that picture of dogs playing
poker, but my mom wouldn't buy it for me and weirdly, I still wanted one
as an adult, not sure why, it's just one of those unexplainable things.
Last fall while shopping at a Ben Franklin's here in NH, what should I
stumble across but a cheater quilt panel of DOGS PLAYING POKER !! I
bought it and danced all the way home. It hasn't found its way into a
quilt yet, but it will very soon. Yesterday I saw a bolt of it at
Wal-Mart, so we can all make one. LOL
I'm not using a stapler on it though.
Denise
http://community.webtv.net/DeniseJG/
My QI
Taria
call me back long distance so I can vent? <VBG>
Taria
Sandy Foster
Taria <taria...@verizon.net> wrote:
LOL! Sure, Taria! I'd rather have you venting with me than this other
woman venting *at* me! ;)
Ginger in CA
Ginger in CA
Ginger in CA
Ginger in CA
Denise in NH wrote:
Maureen Wozniak
volunteer either. I suppose a lot of people would think that of me, but once
my life calms down I intend to volunteer for something.
On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 12:05:30 -0500, Pat in Virginia wrote
(in article <qTQsg.332363$5Z.34970@dukeread02>):
Marcella Peek
people can do to be involved. Lots of members of guilds are still
working or raising families or caring for sick relatives or elderly
parents. They can't organize the quilt show or attend all those board
meetings. But I notice there are lots of little things like putting
flyers for the guild retreat on every chair before the meeting or
helping hang challenge projects or collecting membership forms that the
"regulars" just do rather than grabbing a buddy and having them work
together for just that time before the meeting starts. Sometimes I
think we need to be better at asking the others for those little, one
time, 10 minute jobs.
marcella
new guild VP (yikes!)
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