Another sewing machine to buy
John
their new Sashiko sewing machine. It is a single purpose machine to
replicate the Sashiko stitch on traditional Japanese quilts. I so want
one of these things. I know that it is an "unnecessary" purchase, and
I don't know what they will sell for, and I have never made a Sashiko
quilt, but hey, that hasn't stopped me from buying a lot of things,
that I was glad I did after I bought them. Here is a link to the
website for the machine. Hopefully it won't be Tooooo expensive, when
they finally arrive.
http://www.babylock.com/quilting/sashiko/
John
Bev in TX
My LQS carrys them. I asked the price a few months ago, but I
unfortunately don't remember what they said. I do remember that it
was rather expensive (at least for me).
Bev in TX
John
I was afraid of that. There aren't any Babylock machine vendors close
to me. So I won't be able to see one any time soon. Not that I could
afford one at this time anyway.
John
Alice in PA
If I remember correctly, it's in the $1,500 range.....way too much for a
single-purpose machine. That's just my opinion.
--
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Taria
would agree. ; ) I see cushions in the meditation
room. One of the magazines had it advertised in
the last issue. Nosing around the new someone
mentions $1600. That is kind of pricey for such
a limited use machine. I am glad you are lusting
after it and not me!
Taria
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John
I agree that the 1500-1600 price range is a bit much for such a
dedicated machine, but then again: "If wishes were horses, then
beggars could ride".
Sigh!
John
John
> You have my permission to go for it. I am sure Lois
> would agree. ; ) I see cushions in the meditation
> room. One of the magazines had it advertised in
> the last issue. Nosing around the new someone
> mentions $1600. That is kind of pricey for such
> a limited use machine. I am glad you are lusting
> after it and not me!
>
> news:b7a755e4-177a-49ac...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>
> > As if I wasn't full up on sewing machines. Along comes Babylock with
> > their new Sashiko sewing machine. It is a single purpose machine to
> > replicate the Sashiko stitch on traditional Japanese quilts. I so want
> > one of these things. I know that it is an "unnecessary" purchase, and
> > I don't know what they will sell for, and I have never made a Sashiko
> > quilt, but hey, that hasn't stopped me from buying a lot of things,
> > that I was glad I did after I bought them. Here is a link to the
> > website for the machine. Hopefully it won't be Tooooo expensive, when
> > they finally arrive.
> >http://www.babylock.com/quilting/sashiko/
>
> > John
I think Lois would view it as a useful weight, to fill the sack with
my body, as she threw it off the bridge. The only thing saving me at
this time is that the rivers hereabouts are frozen over. I dare not
breach the subject.
John
Ginger in CA
She was born and raised in Philadelphia. I have designs done for a
quilt based on that saying!
Ginger in CA
John
Mine too. although it was Seattle rather than Philly.
John
Michelle C.
temptation. :-)
Michelle in Nevada
John
wrote:
You are all the sort of people my wife warned me about. Enablers.
Nothing but a bunch of enablers.
John
Lizzy Taylor
And aren't we good at it ;-)
Lizzy
Pauline
it would probably be in the $300 - $400 range for a limited use machine - I
was shocked when she told me the price. Glad I'm not lusting after it,
cause I just couldn't justify it. Although - I haven't seen it in action -
perhaps that would entice me!!
Pauline
Northern California
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Sunny
the ability to choose the space between stitches. Now, I've wondered
why my wonderfully-equipped computerized machines won't let me do just
that. It's something I've really wished to be able to do. But.... I'm
not anywhere near spending $1,500 just to space out stitches to my
liking.
Sunny
NanaWilson
keep thr** ,,,chiding me DH that I am going to get another one BUT not the
one, I don't think!!
Nana...........drooling..........
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John
I know what you are saying. But, in the defense of this machine; It
replicates a stitch that is impossible to do with a standard sewing
machine, a rather simple running stitch, that heretofore has been done
only by hand. and, it uses a rather complicated mechanism, to do it.
It only has a single thread source, the bobbin. Now, with all of that
said, it doesn't justify the price for me either, unless I had a lot
more money in my budget, or, I really wanted to do Sashiko quilts.
Well the budget is a non starter, the desire to do Sashiko Quilts, is
still there. Maybe I will win the lottery, and then I can buy
everybody on the forum one.
John
John
Lelandite
just have to have. Do let us know when you find out the sticker
shock.
I've covered every one of my furtue birthdays and Christmas
I think until 2025 with "stuff" I had to have and almost all of it has
been good stuff. I could easily make it 2026. ;)
How about you? Have you got/boughten anything for Christmas
2010 just for yourself?
Donna
in WA
John
We are at the stage of our lives, my wife and myself, that we really
don't want/need anything more to clutter up our house. We just gave
each other clothes that we told the other that we wanted, and
celebrated Christmas ourselves, and had a very nice, low key day. I
didn't buy myself any sewing stuff, but I do have a couple of joann's
coupons, that I am going to lay on them this weekend, for some Ginger
scissors and Olfa cutting mats. That will keep me happy for awhile,
until I win the lottery, then it's "Katy bar the door". Which reminds
me the joke about the guy who comes running in the door and tells his
wife, "Honey", "pack your bags", "I won the lottery". she said,"Where
are we going?", He says "We", "aren't going anywhere".
If you are offended by the gender representations in the joke, simply
reverse the genders, and laugh.
John
Leslie& The Furbabies in MO.
Nothing but a bunch of enablers.
John
John, dear, that's what we girls DO! LOL
Leslie & The Furbabies in MO.
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Kay Lancaster
$1.6K is the price I've heard... which iirc will get you a used industrial
capable of doing that same stitch; and faster.
John
> $1.6K is the price I've heard... which iirc will get you a used industrial
> capable of doing that same stitch; and faster.
You are so right about the industrial. I had not thought about that.
The only drawback is the industrial would require much more dedicated
space. But a good option if you have the space.
John
Roberta
that hard on the fingers.
Roberta in D
Roberta
tempted any more!
Roberta in D, hoping that the pleasure of the temptation isn't greater
than the pleasure of owning that machine
Susan Laity Price
than the larger Sashiko? The technique is the same. I have owned
machines that did a "hand stitched look" using invisible thread but it
never really looked OK.
Susan
Denise in NH
How about you? Have you got/boughten anything for Christmas 2010 just
-----------------------------------------------------
I never get Christmas, Birthday, Valentines gifts, etc., so I bought
myself a present this year, a 4 foot tall sock monkey. I have a
collection of regular sized sock monkeys and he'll be a good addition to
the group. My pup is very upset about the new monkey, though, barks
every time he looks at it. The first evening I had it, I placed it on
the footstool and whenever the pup woke up he would bark hysterically,
then fall back to sleep, only to freak out again when he woke up. My
other dog just sniffed its foot and made peace with it.
Denise
John
wrote:
> Why can't this machine replicate the ordinary quilting stitch rather
> than the larger Sashiko? The technique is the same. I have owned
> machines that did a "hand stitched look" using invisible thread but it
> never really looked OK.
>
> Susan
> On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 05:33:28 -0800 (PST), John
>
> >As if I wasn't full up on sewing machines. Along comes Babylock with
> >their new Sashiko sewing machine. It is a single purpose machine to
> >replicate the Sashiko stitch on traditional Japanese quilts. I so want
> >one of these things. I know that it is an "unnecessary" purchase, and
> >I don't know what they will sell for, and I have never made a Sashiko
> >quilt, but hey, that hasn't stopped me from buying a lot of things,
> >that I was glad I did after I bought them. Here is a link to the
> >website for the machine. Hopefully it won't be Tooooo expensive, when
> >they finally arrive.
> >http://www.babylock.com/quilting/sashiko/
>
> >John
You answered your own question. It never looked OK. This machine has
only thread in the bobbin. No top thread. It uses a complicated
mechanical method of making the running stitch. It looks like a hand
done running stitch, when done. Not like a jury rigged up sewing
machine stitch that looks not at all like a running stitch. Other than
that, it is just the same. Sort of. ;>)
John
John
Dogs, don't you love them?
John
Sandy E
> How about you? Have you got/boughten anything for Christmas
> 2010 just for yourself?
Figuring on another 11 1/2 months to buy ... well, I'm going to
window shop and decide what I really want before Christmas 2010
rolls around. ;->
This reminds me of the adverts for Dallas New Year's Eve 2010,
held 2 nights ago- uh.. huh? New Year's EVE is the night before
the New Year, isn't it?
Dallas wasn't the only one celebrating a year early.
http://newyearseve.com/ Now I'm almost confused.
R/Sandy - not too confused to quilt ;-P
p.s. That machine's stitch doesn't look "hand stitched" to me
On 1/1/10 8:28 AM, in article L4x%m.3325$_H7...@newsfe24.iad, "Lelandite"
Michelle C.
But of course we are! :-)
Michelle in Nevada
IMS
'official' Babylock video for it on You Tube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWmEAGdElq4
If the link doesn't work, search YouTube for "Baby Lock Sashiko
Machine Presented by Nancy Zieman."
It's very cool.
-Irene
On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 05:33:28 -0800 (PST), John
John
> Howdy!
>
> > How about you? Have you got/boughten anything for Christmas
> > 2010 just for yourself?
>
> Figuring on another 11 1/2 months to buy ... well, I'm going to
> window shop and decide what I really want before Christmas 2010
> rolls around. ;->
>
> This reminds me of the adverts for Dallas New Year's Eve 2010,
> held 2 nights ago- uh.. huh? New Year's EVE is the night before
> the New Year, isn't it?
> Dallas wasn't the only one celebrating a year early.
> http://newyearseve.com/ Now I'm almost confused.
>
> R/Sandy - not too confused to quilt ;-P
>
> p.s. That machine's stitch doesn't look "hand stitched" to me
>
>
> <bckw...@q.com> wrote:
> > It sure is a beaut, John! Now it's on my list of new SM that I
> > just have to have. Do let us know when you find out the sticker
> > shock.
>
> > I've covered every one of my furtue birthdays and Christmas
> > I think until 2025 with "stuff" I had to have and almost all of it has
> > been good stuff. I could easily make it 2026. ;)
>
> > How about you? Have you got/boughten anything for Christmas
> > 2010 just for yourself?
>
> > Donna
> > in WA
The hand stitching is Sashiko hand stitching, not Western or "our" way
of hand stitching. They have probably 4-500 years, or more, of
tradition doing it that way and so I guess it is authentic, from their
point of view. It is not trying to be western hand stitching. it
couldn't be. It evolved from rural, Japanese peasant needs to make
warm bedding, and evolved into it's own art form of stitching. The
Machine only attempts to replicate that hand stitching method. But it
does a pretty good job of it. Or should I say as pretty good a job, as
can be done by any machine. I guess that actually doing it by hand
would be more authentic, but then we use machines when doing our
quilting, don't we? I think I will probably attempt doing it by hand
first and see if I can accomplish anything. It does take some special
needles, but otherwise it should be straightforward. Just getting the
stitches even is as great a challenge for that style as western hand
stitching is.
John
John
John
Roberta
Roberta in D
Maureen Wozniak
(in article <27848-4B3...@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net>):
Piggy backing here, since I somehow missed the initial.
No I haven't, but am seriously considering doing it for Christmas 2010.
Because some day I'd just like to get what I want for Christmas and not a
gift card or what someone else thinks I should want.
Maureen
John
It is a true running stitch, it is similar to the top stitch. Just a
single thread in an over and under continuous pattern. The difference
is that with this machine, you can adjust the length of the stitch on
the bottom versus the length of the top. It has only one thread on the
machine, that is fed off the bobbin. No top thread. So, it is a true
running stitch, which is the true stitch of Japanese Sashiko quilting.
I know it is kind of hard for us westerners to get our heads around
the lack of a thread locking interface that is a part of our quilting
process, but they have been doing it for centuries, by hand, and it
seems to work for them. Now this machine allows for us machine centric
Westerners, and those Japanese who are similarly inclined, to
reproduce the same stitch as done by traditional methods. I think that
is the thing that caught my eye, when I first stumbled onto it. I do
fear that the price puts it into the realm of a curiosity except for
those that want to experiment and have a larger budget than most
people would have. I have heard prices of about $1600 so for this
single purpose machine, so it may not have the status of a must have.
John
Leslie& The Furbabies in MO.
machine-made hand quilting stitch- when the stitch length is adjusted
properly for that look. They even mentioned quilting in the video. Now I
have to wonder why BabyLock didn't include a larger harp and market it as a
mock hand quilting stitch machine? I wonder if it can free motion???
Leslie & The Furbabies in MO.
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Roberta
is formed. But it can't be the same running stitch even the Japanese
do by hand, since the needle doesn't go all the way through the fabric
and up the other side. (It's attached to the needle clamp!) So the
thread comes up from the bobbin and then threads through the needle?
The video showed some sort of hook on top that made a loop of thread.
Some genius invented that mechanism, for sure!
Roberta in D
Anne Rogers
> I really need to see some kind of slow-motion action on how the stitch
> is formed. But it can't be the same running stitch even the Japanese
> do by hand, since the needle doesn't go all the way through the fabric
> and up the other side. (It's attached to the needle clamp!) So the
> thread comes up from the bobbin and then threads through the needle?
> The video showed some sort of hook on top that made a loop of thread.
> Some genius invented that mechanism, for sure!
It clearly says in the video that the stitch on the back is continuous,
but doesn't actually show you what it looks like!
Anne
Sandy E
I did Sashiko embroidery 35 yrs. ago. "everything old is new again..."
This machine example looks okay, but it doesn't look like it was done by
hand. Why do the machine makers keep trying to fake their way thru' this?
Machine work is machine work, and that's just fine.
Hand stitching is by hand - period <g>
>but then we use machines when doing our quilting, don't we?
Quilting? I piece the tops by machine, and am happy to
have the Janome for this. I handquilt while I still can.
http://www.secretsof.com/content/1569
http://www.purlbee.com/sashiko-tutorial/
http://www.quilt.com/FAQS/SashikoFAQ.html
Funny that they're just now coming out w/ a machine to try to mimic this
technique. If I wait long enough, maybe they'll come out w/ a sewing
machine that also dispenses Dr.Pepper. ;-P
R/Sandy - some things I'm picky about, hand stitching in one of them...
On 1/2/10 9:14 PM, in article
ad2776f4-b974-4879...@j14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com, "John"
<ljtay...@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
> On Jan 2, 7:08�pm, Sandy E <el...@tx.rr.com> wrote:
>> Howdy!
>>
>
>> R/Sandy - not too confused to quilt � ;-P
>>
>> � �p.s. �That machine's stitch doesn't look "hand stitched" to me
>>
>> On 1/1/10 8:28 AM, in article L4x%m.3325$_H7....@newsfe24.iad, "Lelandite"
>>
>
John
<quilteac...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> After watching the video it seems like the perfect machine for a
> machine-made hand quilting stitch- when the stitch length is adjusted
> properly for that look. They even mentioned quilting in the video. Now I
> have to wonder why BabyLock didn't include a larger harp and market it as a
> mock hand quilting stitch machine? I wonder if it can free motion???
>
> Leslie & The Furbabies in MO.
>
I don't know about this machine. If I understand the workings of a
sewing machine, and I think I do. There is no way a machine could
provide a running stitch with one thread passing over the upper
surface of the fabric, then passing through the fabric and then
carrying the same thread along the bottom surface and then passing
through the fabric to repeat the process along the upper surface. This
is what is done with the hand made Sashiko stitch. I have a feeling
that the stitch it does make, looks like the Sashiko stitch on the top
but the bottom must have some sort of chain stitch to hold it in
place, on the bottom. I will need to be convinced by sight of the back
and front of the material to verify it is a running stitch, and not
some clever interlocking stitch on the bottom. Until that time I will
remain skeptical. If anybody has a dealer who has one of these
machines and can get a picture or brochure which explains clearly how
this machine does whatever it does, it will clear up a lot of
confusion, at least for me.
John
Taria
Stash raid on his sewing room while he
is out. I think it would more likely be
a funrniture raid at his house though!
; )
I'll have to see which dealer nearby sells
babylock so I can go look myself.
Taria
Taria
time. I know it shows up at guild show and tell
times occasionally. Always has here. Machine
makers are trying to sell machines. They need
to come out with new product to get our old money.
This one seems more sensible than those felting
machines some folks 'had to have' a few years ago.
I am flat out of I wants right now. Well, unless
I get to really thinking on it. : )
Taria
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Michelle C.
Michelle in Nevada
NanaWilson
Nana..........freezing here!!
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Sandy
"Taria" <ta...@verizon.net> wrote:
> I am flat out of I wants right now. Well, unless
> I get to really thinking on it. : )
Taria, right now I'm drooling over a pasta attachment (for hollow
shapes) for my mixer. ;) Quilting wants? Nothing comes to mind at the
moment! :)
--
Sandy in Henderson, near Las Vegas
sw.foster1 (at) gmail (dot) com (remove/change the obvious)
http://www.sandymike.net
Mickie Swall
The machine has a hook that pulls a loop of the bobbin thread to the top of
the fabric, feed dogs push the fabric the required "stitch length" then the
loop is poked back into the fabric and the loop is secured from underneath.
The stitching on the back looks like couching. I don't see any way that one
would be able to do free motion quilting on this machine, only straight
lines and curves. There is a special 3-step technique just to do a pivot.
Here's a PDF of the manual:
http://www.babylock.com/ftp/whitepapers/Sashiko_BLQK_InstructionRefGuide.pdf
Look on page 20 to see the understitching. There also is a comment on page
25 "Securing Stitches" of the manual that the stitches need to be secured -
that they can pull apart if the layers are pulled.
Mickie
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Denise
To cute! do keep us updated as to who wins! :)
Donna
in WA
John
Not so fast. From the description below, I won't be taking any road
trip for a look see. My interest had faded without a true running
stitch.
John
Anne Rogers
> machines and can get a picture or brochure which explains clearly how
> this machine does whatever it does, it will clear up a lot of
> confusion, at least for me.
I did some searching and whilst I cannot find a picture of the reverse
side, I found a description from someone who had seen a sample, they
seemed pretty impressed, that technically it is a chain, but the tension
is such that it looks comparable to a regular machine stitch with a
heavier thread.
This did raise the concern that the tension may be tricky to maintain
when sewing with different threads and through different thicknesses,
but unfortunately there are so few of these machines around that no one
could answer that one.
Cheers
Anne
Sunny
that if Sashiko is your passion, you would want to do it by hand.
Unless you're like me and have lousy hands. Nonetheless, it seems like
an odd machine without broad use. Even narrower than the felter
machines, which do produce some fun stuff. I am intrigued by Sashiko,
but there are enough other things out there to try that it's going to
be a while before I arrive at that particular technique. Maybe by then
the mechines will have been perfected and I can get one cheap on
Craig's List or the like, LOL.
Sunny
John
That is my problem, hands that have taken too much abuse from hammers,
saw blades and other less than friendly implements of mass
disfiguration. Would that I could engage in fine needlework with these
tired old hands. It is machines for me, I fear, unless I come across
some needle skill that will allow me to partake of this pleasure. The
one that I can do, is needlepoint. It is a straight through and pull
type of skill and not the rocking motion that is required of some of
the other movements. Sigh!
John
Roberta
long-staple polyester thread, so any sewing machine envy I might have
been feeling just died.
Roberta in D
Sunny
joints look like somebody took a hammer to them in the past. In my
case, it isn't abuse from work, just bad genes. I was excited by the
sashiko thimble. It looks like something that might work for me. I
have a hard time stitching down a binding by hand, or putting in a
hem. With that kind of thimble it just might be that I could push the
needle a bit more effectively without pain. It's a shame we can't go
get nice, new fingers and hands, isn't it?
Sunny
John
Ah! Yes, the ultimate thimble quest. I have a drawer full of various
types that I have bought and tossed in there as unsatisfactory. That
was an interesting variation and might have to be added to my
collection. The one I tend to use, when I use a thimble, is one of the
leather ones with a small metal disc encased in one of the surfaces.
That seems to be the least annoying to use, but that is damning with
faint praise. I generally don't use a thimble, because I have lots of
callous finger tips, left over from guitar playing and various
carpentry adventures. They will get me through all but the most
extensive use of a small needle.
John
Alice in PA
to order it for me, shipped it to my house FREE, and gave me all the
paperwork for a $20 rebate! It looks really interesting; it is also a
grinder.
--
Alice in PA
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Sandy
"Alice in PA" <quilt...@visi.net> wrote:
> I got one of those for my son and DIL for Christmas. Bed, Bath & Beyond had
> to order it for me, shipped it to my house FREE, and gave me all the
> paperwork for a $20 rebate! It looks really interesting; it is also a
> grinder.
>
> --
> Alice in PA
> http://community.webshots.com/user/twosonsatpsu
Congratulations, Alice! I think that's a slightly different one, though,
since the one I'm eyeing doesn't need the grinder. At the moment, it's
only stocked at Williams-Sonoma, but KitchenAid is supposed to begin
selling it themselves sometime this year. BTW, that grinder (it's also
available separately) is great for making cranberry relish, as well as
things like sausage. :)
Right now I have the pasta rollers and cutters, and I have to say that
homemade pasta is just *so* much tastier than the packaged stuff in the
stores -- which is saying a lot, since I *love* even the packaged stuff.
<G>
Taria
I have the old set here but the new one is very cool.
http://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/e223/?pkey=celtmixatt
For anyone that wants to see a video.
I think you should get it and report back. It would be a community
service kind of thing.
Taria
Sandy
"Taria" <ta...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Now darn it Sandy. I could get the wants for that neat thing.
> I have the old set here but the new one is very cool.
> http://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/e223/?pkey=celtmixatt
> For anyone that wants to see a video.
> I think you should get it and report back. It would be a community
> service kind of thing.
> Taria
Yes, that's the one I was talking about, Taria -- really cool! I saw the
W-S people demo it during one of their Sunday "things" a couple of
months back. If all goes well, I'll report back as you suggest. ;)