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CRFT456

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Mar 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/23/98
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Watched a show the other night....about a painter being in trouble for painting
pictures that included Princess Di. Not the greatest, but nice work. Said
something about the family having a hard time of course, controlling the
copyrighted image of Diana.......<shaking head, but going on>
So how did the photographers get any picture they wanted-and could print it?
........Someone could paint a picture of palm trees, and picture is
copyrighted.......but he doesn't have protection over the palm trees, even the
ones he specifically painted........
Could understand that they want some decency, and privacy still for
her....but???
So if I had a "candid" shot of Marilyn Monroe, JFK, YOU?? can I actually get in
trouble for making a piece from the picture??

TCAMOM

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Mar 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/24/98
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>.Someone could paint a picture of palm trees, and picture is
>copyrighted.......but he doesn't have protection over the palm trees, even
>the
>ones he specifically painted........

>So if I had a "candid" shot of Marilyn Monroe, JFK, YOU?? can I actually get


>in
>trouble for making a piece from the picture??

I'm not sure how it works when dealing with people. But I do have several
paintings and prints by an artist located in Niantic Conneticut. I had asked
him one time how does he get around it all by being able to paint specific
light houses (he does just about all of them), and he also does navy stuff --
submarines, surface ships, etc.....
He had told me that an artist can paint what they wish because it is their
interpretation of the pieces. So in other words, if an artist wants to do a
painting of the Statue of Liberty he can. His work is then copyrighted -- no
one can duplicate his indiviual picture unless he gives permission.
How it would work with celebrities and folks like that I have no
idea........ifyou find out let me know, just curious...


Laurie Graham

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Mar 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/24/98
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TCAMOM wrote:
>
> >.Someone could paint a picture of palm trees, and picture is
> >copyrighted.......but he doesn't have protection over the palm trees, even
> >the
> >ones he specifically painted........
>
> >So if I had a "candid" shot of Marilyn Monroe, JFK, YOU?? can I actually get
> >in
> >trouble for making a piece from the picture??
>
> I'm not sure how it works when dealing with people. But I do have several
> paintings and prints by an artist located in Niantic Conneticut. <snip>

> He had told me that an artist can paint what they wish because it is their
> interpretation of the pieces. So in other words, if an artist wants to do a
> painting of the Statue of Liberty he can. His work is then copyrighted -- no
> one can duplicate his indiviual picture unless he gives permission.
> How it would work with celebrities and folks like that I have no
> idea........ifyou find out let me know, just curious...


As I understand it, an artist can paint anyone/anything they choose.
However, if they're not painting from real life, their memory, or a photo
that belongs to them, they're infringing on someone else's copyright. So
if an artist is painting Diana's picture from an officially sanctioned
portrait, they're infringing on copyright. So if the "candid" shots are
ones you took, you can do whatever you want w/ them, they're yours.

LSG

Terri A Gordon

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Mar 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/24/98
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In many cases, a persons name or image alone sells that person. In other
words, a person named Susan Jones may not be a famous name, but if you
mention someone like Jack Nicholson, Mel Gibson etc. the response is
almost immediate by much of the public that these guys are movie stars.
The same with images of these people.

Their names/images do the "selling" of these people.
This is part of their livelyhood, just as a created work by an author or
a chart created by a designer is.

I woyld probably pay to see a movie with Jack Nicholson in it, but would
pass on one with "joe blow" in it.

This is the reason, popular figures, and their estates if they are no
longer alive protect themselves and anything that can be associated with
them.

By the way....a name can't actually be copyrighted. It can be trademarked.
Either way, the laws are much the same and protect the person whose image
or name is used without their permission.

Terri

On 23 Mar 1998, CRFT456 wrote:

> Watched a show the other night....about a painter being in trouble for painting
> pictures that included Princess Di. Not the greatest, but nice work. Said
> something about the family having a hard time of course, controlling the
> copyrighted image of Diana.......<shaking head, but going on>
> So how did the photographers get any picture they wanted-and could print it?

> ........Someone could paint a picture of palm trees, and picture is


> copyrighted.......but he doesn't have protection over the palm trees, even the
> ones he specifically painted........

> Could understand that they want some decency, and privacy still for
> her....but???

George Blum

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Mar 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/27/98
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Other than pictures for newspapers or news magazines, I beleive the photographer
must get the subject to sign a release if they wish to use the photograph for
making money. Any photograph or image of the Princess must be approved by her
estate if it is being used for commercial purposes.

George

CRFT456 wrote:

> Watched a show the other night....about a painter being in trouble for painting
> pictures that included Princess Di. Not the greatest, but nice work. Said
> something about the family having a hard time of course, controlling the
> copyrighted image of Diana.......<shaking head, but going on>
> So how did the photographers get any picture they wanted-and could print it?
> ........Someone could paint a picture of palm trees, and picture is
> copyrighted.......but he doesn't have protection over the palm trees, even the
> ones he specifically painted........
> Could understand that they want some decency, and privacy still for
> her....but???
> So if I had a "candid" shot of Marilyn Monroe, JFK, YOU?? can I actually get in
> trouble for making a piece from the picture??

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