Magazine Dislikes
Pamela Kellogg
Being a designer that sells my work only to publishers, I'm very
interested in knowing what it is about the magazines these past few
years that everyone dislikes. I know that there's been alot of
discussion on this matter. I myself have not been thrilled with the
over all designs in most of the magazines either. What are you all
looking for in the way of designs in magazines? What changes would you
like to see? If you could speak directly to the publishers, what would
you want them to know? I'd love to hear everyones "2 cents" worth on
this!
Thanks,
Pam Kellogg
Kitty and Me Country Crafts
John and Beth Waller
I can only speak for myself, of course, but lately everything seems to
be revoltingly "cutesy", aimed at or for kids, or so flowery that one
can smell the pollen (aaaa-choo!). I personally prefer more tailored
designs, that are not "grade-school" simple. I'm an advanced stitcher
and appreciate a challenge. Also, with the cost of magazines lately, I,
personally, won't buy it unless there are at least two projects in it I
find worth doing. That doesn't seem to be the case anymore. I can't
really put my finger on exactly what it was about the 1986-90 issues of
CS&CC and Cross Quick that I liked so much, but I have yet to find
anything that measures up to them since then. I guess part of it was the
wide cross-section of projects. They seemed to have something in them
for everybody's tastes and the finished project always looked crisp and
attractive. Nothing cheesy! I'm not sure I'm getting my point across,
but I hope this helps. JMHO!
Beth W.
--
Old sailors never die,
they just get a little dinghy!
Dandalions
That pretty much sums it up for me too!
Sara
John and Beth Waller <jjwa...@earthlink.net> wrote in article
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> Pamela Kellogg wrote:
> >
> > Being a designer that sells my work only to publishers, I'm very
> > interested in knowing what it is about the magazines these past few
> > years that everyone dislikes.
J.B. Rupp
Gotta agree - I tend to like Piecework magazine, myself, though I don't
subscibe to any magazines,
that's just the one I do buy when I buy...
They always have a wide variety of needlework/sewing projects, lots of
detailed photos of the finished work as well as the in-progress work and a
variety of knowlegable writers as well as projects to get a person started
on new techniques. - My own opinion, of course...
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P.S. - in case anyone cares, more info:
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201 East Fourth St., Loveland CO 80537 USA
(970)669-7672
subsciption/yr: US - $24; outside US - $26 (in US funds)
I deny all affiliation - this is written inside the magazine cover - just
trying not to be annoyingly obscure :-)
Dandalions <dand...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in article
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Mary Chamberlain
> > I'm very
> >interested in knowing what it is about the magazines these past few
> >years that everyone dislikes.
While my taste in what kind of patterns I like might vary from month to
month (some days I like landscapes and cottages, some days a cute kitten
or a sampler catches my eye) there are some things I look for in the
"presentation" of the pattern that are more consistent. I hate pattern
graphs that have hand written or colored symbols. The hand written
symbols are usually hard to tell apart (unless there are only 3 or 4
colors) and the colored graphs don't allow me to make a working copy
easily - and sometimes the colors are hard to distinguish too. I NEED
that working copy so I can keep track of what I've stitched. A graph
that is spread accross 3 or 4 pages is also harder to work with, but that
is often unavoidable.
I'm also not fond of partial stitches (though sometimes they're
necessary) and huge gobs of backstitching used as a substitute for good
design detail is also a turnoff.
My favorite magazines at the moment are Mary Hickmott's, Anna, and Just
Cross Stitch (sometimes). I like the look of some of the things in The
Stitchery, but the multi-colored graphs are discouraging.
Hope this is useful.
Mary
Naunet
> wide cross-section of projects. They seemed to have something in them
> for everybody's tastes and the finished project always looked crisp and
> attractive. Nothing cheesy! I'm not sure I'm getting my point across,
> but I hope this helps. JMHO!
You might want to check out "The Stitchery Magazine" then. I was lucky
to even find it. This issue had a gorgeous pattern of a white leopard
mother and baby *talking about something I never expected to find in a
magazine but sold in charts only* as well as slightly more simple bunny
designs *but still not so cutesy as to be annoying* and a fox or lion
pattern. Also had a serviceable rose pattern for furniture and such
*plan to do that someday when I can find the right cloth and a stool or
chair for it*
As for what I don't like about most magazines...same thing. Too simple
of designs that I just don't see myself worrying about. The subscription
rate for The Stitchery was like 19 dollars a year. Cross Stitch and
Country Crafts *since renamed, I forget what* cost me 30 bucks instead.
They said it was for the patterns of course so I am hoping the patterns
are worth it. I sure know the Stichery's patterns were not overly
simple. next month they are having a gorgeous dream catcher design among
others.
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> I'm very
>interested in knowing what it is about the magazines these past few
>years that everyone dislikes.
I always sort of laugh at these kinds of questions--everybody's taste is so different. But for the sake of research, I'll tell you some of my likes and dislikes. I don't like anything that's too
country looking, or too cutesy. Then again, every once in a while something country or cutesy catches my eye, and I can't live without it.
What I have been enjoying in the past couple of years are The Stitchery Magazine, For the Love of Cross-Stitch, and The Needleworker. I like The Stitchery because it shows different types of
needlework, and profiles some interesting designers, and has patterns that appeal to me--usually at least one in each issue that I'd like to do. That's sort of my standard--I hope to find one in
each issue that gets put into my "maybe someday" pile.
I notice that lately my tastes have run to samplers from Shepherd's Bush, and really nicely done botanicals--mostly flowers. And a magazine that gives me information as well as patterns really keeps
my interest. Teach me something new, introduce a designer to me, show me new gadgets, and I'm a happy stitcher!
Terri N.
notmc...@aol.com
Trish Lavis
I agree! I feel I don't want to spend much time and effort working a
project that is only a cartoon or only obviously for kids. Serious
subjects, accurate flowers (I hate floral samplers that contain flowers
God never invented) and reasonably good alphabets. When I was a beginner,
I really appreciated good designs that didn't require the eyesight of an
eagle or the ability to do 3/4 stitches. As I became more advanced, I
enjoyed the challenge of more difficult designs. A magazine providing
both would get my vote.
Most of us don't mind 'sweet' or 'feminine' designs once in a while (do
we?), but we all enjoy catering for our men or, in my case, catering for a
degree in Botany (I love my current Floral Alphabet!) or whatever.
Also - little quickie-freebie kits on the front cover are a real puller
for me. My son just loves to work those!
Cheers!
Trish {|:-}
Bill & Jennifer Forster
> > > I'm very
> > >interested in knowing what it is about the magazines these past few
> > >years that everyone dislikes.
>
a LOT of time (more than 15 hours), I am very careful to pick something I
love. To appeal to so many different people, it's hard to appeal to so
many different people. I do a lot of the smaller projects though.
I would be interested in seeing more on techniques, finishing, tips,
advice, gadgets etc. that would help stitchers. (sort of like the purpose
of this newsgroup, but on paper with pictures).
Jennifer
Joarch
I guess I'll add my .02 to this discussion. I stopped buying magazines
around '91. The designs in each magazine were starting to look too
similiar. I started buying more frequently again this year because I
finally have access again to a good shop and I can get The Stitchery and
New Stitches. I won't subscribe because I want there to be at least two
designs in each issue that I would consider doing, so I need to look
before I buy.
Hate the colored graphs in For the Love of Cross Stitch.
Do like a variety of styles and difficulties. If there is something new I
haven't tried before and the graph is small enough, I will usually try it.
That's how I've learned about hardanger and using overdyed threads and
silk ribbon embroidery.
Don't usually stitch large designs from a mag. I'm not sure why. A good
photo is the best selling point for a design. Some times it's the colors
in the photo that draw me rather than the design.
Enough from me!
Donna, in Sacramento
Greta Ann Olsen
I really can't stand when a magazine runs a pattern as a series. I don't
want to have to buy 6 issues of a magazine to get a whole project.
Especially when it means I have to get back issues. Argh.
I really like when they show different types of stitches. I also like the
way the New Stitches has the Master Class section where they show the
effects of differents backgrounds and patterns in a lesson sort of format.
Gret
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Sue
Colour charts! I hate colour charts. Even the ones with only two or
three colours. Need that working copy, you know.
I'm not overly fond of cutesy designs, but every once in a while one
will just take my fancy.
An overabundance of hardanger and drawn thread work in mags catering
exclusively to x-stitch as opposed to general needlework mags. I
admit to not particularly caring for this type of work.
I like medium designs. Large designs don't seem to translate well to
magazines, and there are far too many small designs.
My favorites are Just Cross Stitch and Mary Hickmonts New Stitches
most of the time. And I have recently discovered an Australian
magazine that I like called Jill Oxton's Cross Stitch. I have only
seen two issues of it, but I like it despite the pricy-ness.
Would like more fantasy related designs ( not angels. I get my fix
from MLI and Mar-Bek)
And that's my opinion for now, for whatever it might be worth.
Sue in Montreal
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*** Carpe Diem, mes enfants!
**** What may be may not be. Scottish Proverb
***** Conform and be dull. J. Frank Dobie
Guy & Nathania Apple
I completely agree with Trish. While I find articles on new techniques
and "learn as you stitch" projects, many of the patterns offered are too
plain simple. It might be nice if they had a monthly focus on a
particular technique ie: hardanger, pulled thread, ribbon embroidery,
blackwork, etc. and three levels of difficulty (beginner, moderate and
advanced).
I also would like to see designs with a touch more realism. I get very
tired of country angels and sunflowers, etc. Would love to stitch
realistic animal designs (Audubon influence, perhaps), old timey
botanist sketches (with Latin classifications).
Still another idea might be a regular column on specialty fabrics,
fibers, etc. clearly explaining their application, why they are used by
designers, etc.
Hope this helps, Pamela.
Nathania
--
"Across the ages
The moving hand of history bleeds
For a kinder eye to see us
Not as we are - but as we dream..." -Level 42
Nancy Marino
I like magazines that have a variety of embroidery techniques
represented, not just cross stitch. I think this is why I buy (or
subscribe) to British, Australian, or European magazines, which seem
to have a good variety of things of my taste: not cutesy stuff; table
linens, crochet edgings for bed linens, or handkerchiefs, pot holders,
pillow tops, etc, in technqiues such as free-hand embroidery, pulled
or drawn work, or needlepoint.
I don't like fakey flower stuff or corny subjects with animals.
Nancy Marino
Who stitches A LOT
A Joy McDonald
I mostly agree with what the others have said here, with a few
exceptions.
I do Cross Stitch. I don't do Hardanger, Ribbon Embroidery, or
Needlepoint, and I don't sew. I look for magazines with all
cross-stitch unless there is something particular that catches my eye.
I also look for designs that are either frame-able (Is that a word?) or
have very simple finishing techniques (like Christmas ornaments on
perforated plastic).
Unlike some others, I paid only $30 for a three year subscription to
CS&CC. I did this twice, but I won't be renewing. I find many of the
patterns beautiful, but I doubt I will ever do any of them. Also, there
is too much other stuff besides cross stitch.
Also unlike others, I enjoy a lot of the country designs. I'm probably
going to choose Cross Country Stitching as my new magazine this year.
I subscribe to only one magazine, and I pick up others occasionally if I
see something I like. That probably won't change.
One other thing, I *love* design contests. I probably won't get to
participate in any for about the next 4-5 years, due to other
priorities. My hubby is an artist; I am not. But I have designed a few
things and really enjoy it. I have also collaborated with hubby on a
couple of designs. In my next life, I'm going to do this for a living.
;)
Joy
Trish Lavis
Oh, excuse me for posting twice, but YES!!! I DO SO HATE COLOURED GRAPHS.
It must be something about my eyes, but I cannot tell the colours apart,
especially when it's flesh tones. And I also like instructional articles
with pictures. And that's my $0.02. (Well $0.04, really) Finshed now...
Trish {|:-}
SopranoLBL
Here is my 2 cents worth. I used to love CS&CC before it changed. I can
pinpoint the time that it changed. It was when they got a new editor.
She immediately cancelled the Heirloom Stocking series in favor of a more
cutesy stocking. VERY disappointing! I am on my 3rd stocking in the
Heirloom series and was looking forward to more choices. I loved the
magazine when it had a whole variety of cross stitch projects for all
different levels. I am an advanced stitcher but I do enjoy picking up a
simple piece to finish quickly just for the sheer enjoyment of finishing a
project. I think the magazines have just gotten a little lazy in their
research about what stitchers want. I used to subscribe to 6 magazines.
I am down to 3 and when they run out I will probably not renew. I have
enjoyed going to festivals and meeting designers and seeing their work "up
close and personal" so that probably has something to do with the magazine
issue. Also, my DH would probably pitch a fit if I continued to buy at
the rate I used to. I have become more selective with my patterns. I
really have to love it to buy it. Sorry this got so long but I hope it
helps!
Laura
Chris Braun
On Sun, 30 Mar 1997 23:39:15 -0800, Naunet <scar...@mail.llion.org>
wrote:
<snip>
> I sure know the Stichery's patterns were not overly
>simple. next month they are having a gorgeous dream catcher design among
>others.
I was really happy to see that they're going to have the dream
catcher. I've been eyeing that in their catalog -- want to do it for
DH but just didn't want to get it as a kit. Now I'm so glad I waited.
BTW, DH is a web guru, and the words on the chart are: "Humankind has
not woven the web of life; we are but one thread within it. Whatever
we do to the web we do to ourselves. All things are bound together;
all things connect."
Chris
Diane Johnston
Pamela Kellogg wrote:
>
> Being a designer that sells my work only to publishers, I'm very
> interested in knowing what it is about the magazines these past few
> discussion on this matter. I myself have not been thrilled with the
> over all designs in most of the magazines either. What are you all
> looking for in the way of designs in magazines? What changes would you
> like to see? If you could speak directly to the publishers, what would
> you want them to know? I'd love to hear everyones "2 cents" worth on
> this!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kitty and Me Country Crafts
I would like to see a complicated design suitable for advanced stitchers
in the magasines more often. Most of the mags have one now and then and
i have done 2 or three over the years (most complicated was a tiger's
head from "Cross Stitch" i think) but i wish there were more of them!
--
Diane Johnston joh...@region.halifax.ns.ca
AKA: ae...@chebucto.ns.ca
OK, Everybody out of the gene pool!
F.James Cripwell
Sue (sue.bi...@sympatico.ca) writes:
> Colour charts! I hate colour charts. Even the ones with only two or
> three colours. Need that working copy, you know.
>
> Sue in Montreal
> ---
> Sue sue.bi...@sympatico.ca
>
> *** Carpe Diem, mes enfants!
> **** What may be may not be. Scottish Proverb
> ***** Conform and be dull. J. Frank Dobie
>
For the record, coloured charts are used to *prevent* people copying
the patterns. I heard this from Stoney Creek. I am not sure whether if
you have a scanner and colour printer, you can successfully scan patterns.
I think there may be trouble getting the lines to be perfectly vertical
and horizantal.
--
Jim Cripwell. From Vancouver Island, to the Alberta highland, the
prairies, lakes and Ontario's towers. From the sounds of Mount Royal's
chimes, off to the Maritimes, something to sing about, this land of ours!!
A song about Canada.
Terri Zajac
Most of the things you all dislike, I agree. However, have you
considered sending letters to the Editors of the magazines. If enough
subscribes (or buyers of their magazines) suggest changes, they may just
take those ideas and make the changes.
Just a thought.
By the way, this is my first post to your group. I really like this
group.
Terri
J Behr
Pamela Kellogg wrote:
>
> Being a designer that sells my work only to publishers, I'm very
> interested in knowing what it is about the magazines these past few
> years that everyone dislikes. I know that there's been alot of
> discussion on this matter. I myself have not been thrilled with the
> over all designs in most of the magazines either. What are you all
> looking for in the way of designs in magazines? What changes would you
> like to see? If you could speak directly to the publishers, what would
> you want them to know? I'd love to hear everyones "2 cents" worth on
> this!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pam Kellogg
> Kitty and Me Country Crafts
Personally, (but then I can hardly speak for anyone else) I like
samplers - the more complex the stitches the better. I find that
there's a fair amount of cross stitches in most magazines, but that
specialty stitches are lacking. Also, I'd like to work on things other
than stuff to be frames. Easy directions for finishing off pillows or
neck-rolls or things like that would be much appreciated - esp when the
design is set up for these "3-D" kinds of stitching.
Kate
Nancy Veal
John and Beth Waller wrote:
<snip>
I can't
> really put my finger on exactly what it was about the 1986-90 issues of
> CS&CC and Cross Quick that I liked so much, but I have yet to find
> anything that measures up to them since then.
Beth,
I agree. Did anyone do the Amish triptych (SP???) from CS&CC? I did
and it's still one of my favourite pieces and hangs in a prominent place
in my house. I love the detail in this type of piece.
Nancy
AJ Bennett
My roommate and I were talking about this last night. I had just
received my copy of Simply Cross-Stitch and were rather sad that it
really took the name to heart. There was nothing in there that either
one of us liked. That has been the way for quite a while and I just
decided to let my subscription run out.
On the other hand, I was about to let my subscription lapse on Cross
Stitch and Country Crafts when they went to a new format. I have now
renewed and love the magazine. I also have a subscription to Just Cross
Stitch. Unless I find ones I like better (I love some of the British
mags but just can't seem to justify the cost).
I work at a bookstore which carries many of these mags so I pick up
individual ones that have something I might like but otherwise my only
subscriptions are Cross Stitch and Needlework and Just Cross Stitch.
Ann
Bill & Jennifer Forster wrote:
>
> > > > I'm very
> > > >interested in knowing what it is about the magazines these past few
> > > >years that everyone dislikes.
> >
Kuhlc
What about the QUALITY of magazines? Like the early Just Cross Stitch
mags that came in plastic covers because we obviously were going to
SAVE them. Even the interior pages were on really nice paper; now those
pages feel like bathroom tissue ! It's downright insultiong !
As to what is printed, I really enjoy the
profiles on designers as well as shop owners. I think we all enjoy
learning
something new & enjoy those "tips" as well.
My # 1 dislike: Mags that are OFF TOPIC ! How many times has J XS
had articles on something totally NOT cross stitch as title implies ! ! !
Beverly A. Carey
SopranoLBL <sopra...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19970331233...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
> Here is my 2 cents worth. I used to love CS&CC before it changed. I
can
> pinpoint the time that it changed. It was when they got a new
editor.
> She immediately cancelled the Heirloom Stocking series in favor of a
more
> cutesy stocking. VERY disappointing!
I, also, discontinued CS&CC when they changed the stocking. I had
every magazine starting with the premier issue and felt the quality of
the designs was steadily declining - the stocking was the final blow.
I want designs, that when framed, will look like a beautiful piece of
art. I'm not into samplers with the alphabet and numbers. Flowers,
birds, wildlife and outdoor scenery are all designs I would be
attracted to. An occasional cutsey design suitable for a child's room
or to put on children's clothing is OK.
I prefer black and white patterns that I can make a working copy of.
If the chart is small and difficult to read, this enables me to enlarge
it and I can hilight areas on the copy as they are stitched.
And that's my $.02 worth!!
Bev Carey
Cheryl + Rich Isaak
Hi
I've been reading The Needleworker. I really like this one. Almost
British in its scope and lots of speciality stitches.
Cheryl
Kim Doyle
I've seen a lot of posts about color vs. black & white and I've come to the
conclusion that I'm one of the very few who prefers color. A lot of times I
won't buy a pattern even if I like the design because for me the black &
white charts are confusing to read. I guess ideally a chart would be in
color with symbols so that those who photocopy to enlarge or whatever would
be able to.
Kim
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Greta Ann Olsen
"Beverly A. Carey" <bac...@up.net> writes:
>I want designs, that when framed, will look like a beautiful piece of
>art.
I agree with Bev about wanting to stitch art. MLI designs I would put on
my wall and they are tasteful and beautiful. A lot of what I see in
magazines qualifies as "black-velvet-Elvis" type "art". Yuck. Why spend
so much time stitching something if its going to look tacky?
Of course, that's just my taste, and everyone is different. I wonder if
the magazine editors who publish this stuff would be willing to hang it
permanently in *their* homes.
(I think Mary Hickmott would, but I'm not so sure about the others).
Stephenie Labovitz
I have seen many posts saying they hate color charts because they cant
photocopy them. I don't know about other areas, but most of the public
"copy centers" (like Kinko's) in my area have color copy machines. The
copies are a little more expensive but they are very crisp colors.
Whipple
I like the color charts the way Leisure Arts does them.
Rebecca in Sacramento
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Marilyn Safier
I have taken a dislike to 'Cross Country Stitching'; since all the
designs are by the same person (Linda Coleman) they all look alike. I
do like country (city girls do, you know!) but much more in the style of
Cross-Eyed Cricket or CS & CC (old one). The other thing is EVERY
SINGLE design has a biblical or religious saying in it and it becomes
very tiresome trying to find substitute sayings 'though I have a list of
sayings I'd like to stitch...nothing like having religion shoved down
your throat to make you 'pious'.(wrong!) I guess I've always felt that
it was a PRIVATE thing between you and God or whoever...
Just my $0.25.
Marilyn
Anne Gwin
In article <5hutlb$n...@proxy5.proxy.ozemail.net>, Trish Lavis
<pla...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> designs on T Shirts. Only trouble was, I was a dill and used cheap
Is a dill like a dag? What _is_ a dag, anyway?
AustinAnne
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Trish Lavis
I was reading (and agreeing with) these posts when it suddenly struck me
like wet fish between the eyes!
Why don't you see more designs for clothing (designs suitable for waste
canvas)??? We all prefer to see designs we can do as a work of art and
hang in our homes, but why not work pretty florals as collars on linen for
our daughters or manly geometrics for our sons' vests or jeans. I reckon
such projects would fit the category of 'something small and worthwhile to
do between larger projects'.
What do others think???
PS. I once had a graph designed specifically for a T Shirt. It had a
pretty ginger cat positioned on the shoulder and reaching down with one
paw to three mice on the shirt front. It wasn't a cartoon but an accurate
representation of the animals (ie. sufficiently serious for an old boiler
like me to wear. I got going then, and did a series of waste canvas
designs on T Shirts. Only trouble was, I was a dill and used cheap
shirts, so they (and my work) didn't last! BUT smallish designs of a
suitable nature would be great on clothing, don't you think???
PPS (Sorry for the length, but I'm getting all heated up now and I do love
the look of my own typing - read 'sound of my own voice') - I made a
lovely chambray shirt for my invalid Dad and personalised it for him by
XSing his favourite cartoon character on the pocket (Aussie Saltbush
Bill). All the old codgers from the Bowling Club wanted one too! So I
made him another with his favourite theme: a fat green frog.
Trish Lavis
I agree! I don't necessarily want to STITCH my spirituality etc etc.
Aside from that, though, I keep getting the most obnoxious spam from some
religious organisation that wants me to "email soon, won't you?".
Cackling, I emailed their message back to them twenty times. Also to the
postmaster on their server. Guess what? All forty messages bounced back
to me!!! Did I swear and stomp over that one!
Please! Can anyone advise on how to really STOP these creeps from bugging
me?
Trish {|:-}
Stephenie Labovitz
Amen!!!
<g>
Stephenie Labovitz
sdko...@aol.com
Hi,
A couple of people have mentioned loving hedgehog designs so I thought I'd let you know that yesterday I picked up a magazine at B&N called Celebrations in Cross Stitch ( it's a uk publication) and
there are a couple of really cute hedgehog designs in it. The whole issue is dedicated to cards and so the designs are quite small, but would be cute on a pocket or something as well. Just FYI!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sarah Koehler / Ferndale WA
sdko...@aol.com
GO MARINERS!!!
Cathy Artigues
On 3 Apr 1997 14:43:19 GMT, Trish Lavis <pla...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
^I agree! I don't necessarily want to STITCH my spirituality etc etc.
^Aside from that, though, I keep getting the most obnoxious spam from some
^religious organisation that wants me to "email soon, won't you?".
^
^Cackling, I emailed their message back to them twenty times. Also to the
^postmaster on their server. Guess what? All forty messages bounced back
^to me!!! Did I swear and stomp over that one!
^
^Please! Can anyone advise on how to really STOP these creeps from bugging
^me?
^
^Trish {|:-}
^
One thing you can do is look carefully at the headers in the e-mail.
Look in your mail reader for a way to "Show Headers" or "View Entire
Message." If you can't find one of those, try selecting "Forward,"
some mailers show the headers on all forwarded messages.
O.K, now you've got the headers, what should you do? First, ignore the
lines that say "Reply-To:" and "From:" Most spammers are too smart to
put real addresses there. Look for lines that say "Received: from aaa
by bbb for ccc." There are usually several of these lines and you can
use them to reconstruct the path the message took through the Internet
to you.
The administrators you want to complain to are the ones on the
earliest Received line, which is usually the last one you see. I
usually send mail to postmaster at both the "from" and "by" domains.
The domain is just the last two parts of the system name, so if you
see "Received: from 206.31.112.11 (pm17-23.flash.net [208.194.194.23])
by moon.web2000.net ..." you complain to postm...@flash.net and
postm...@web2000.net.
When you complain, make sure you forward the entire message with all
the headers and change the subject to something like "Stop Spam from
your Site." This only works about half the times that I do it, and I
only do it for about half the junk I get; but when I'm really annoyed,
at least it makes me feel better. :-)
Cathy Artigues
cat...@cts.com
San Diego, California
Nancy Lorraine Taylor
I have to agree with you on the passages that are on the patterns,
although not as heartily! I'd just not stitch them.
I have a bunch of CCS magazines, but haven't bought any recently
because, yes, they're all starting to look the same.
What I do like about the magazines that I have is that many of the
patterns are shown stitched up in different ways. As a tray insert
and framed, or worked up somehow without framing. This cuts down
tremendously on the cost of stitching and gives you (well, me :) some
ideas on how to display and use the finished pieces. The finishing
techniques are not restricted to the patterns in the book, of course.
Also, a lot of the patterns have elements that can be 'taken out', so
to say, and stitched on their own. The magazines are a great source
for little sheep and cats and potted plants, etc. that fit just
wonderfully on fingertip towels and baby clothing, etc.
I do have both the alphabet editions.
Cheers,
NAncy Lorraine
debbie frost
In article <5i0fm7$n...@proxy5.proxy.ozemail.net>, Trish Lavis
<pla...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> I agree! I don't necessarily want to STITCH my spirituality etc etc.
> Aside from that, though, I keep getting the most obnoxious spam from some
> religious organisation that wants me to "email soon, won't you?".
>
> Cackling, I emailed their message back to them twenty times. Also to the
> postmaster on their server. Guess what? All forty messages bounced back
> to me!!! Did I swear and stomp over that one!
>
> Please! Can anyone advise on how to really STOP these creeps from bugging
> me?
>
> Trish {|:-}
Oh, so this is where it came from. I get them too. Don't ya just hate
mailing lists. Sometimes I'm afraid to post for fear of what spam I might
get next or what mail list I'll be put on. In regards to this particular
spam, I am a Christian, but I don't believe you'll help anybody by
annoying them.
Debbie
Lynn
In article <dfrost-0304...@161.55.100.106>,
dfr...@nwfsc.noaa.gov (debbie frost) wrote:
Hah! You think you got it bad! I've got a gay group and a couple of
bimbos who want to exchange pictures! Who are these yokels? I do the same
thing as Trish, but the gay thing bounces back as disbanded or no longer in
service. I send the dimwits a message telling them I'm a 50 year old,
heterosexual, women and they're not my type; but, I guess they can't read.
:-)
Lynn
Barb & Rick
On 1 Apr 1997 13:41:44 GMT, bf...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (F.James
Cripwell) wrote:
> For the record, coloured charts are used to *prevent* people copying
>the patterns. I heard this from Stoney Creek. I am not sure whether if
>you have a scanner and colour printer, you can successfully scan patterns.
> I think there may be trouble getting the lines to be perfectly vertical
>and horizantal.
>Jim Cripwell. From Vancouver Island, to the Alberta highland, the
>prairies, lakes and Ontario's towers. From the sounds of Mount Royal's
>chimes, off to the Maritimes, something to sing about, this land of ours!!
>A song about Canada.
Jim:
With the evolution of colour photocopiers, colour charts are
relatively simple to colour. Yes, I agree with you that it was the
intention to prevent this, but it still goes on....
I like to photocopy all my stuff and mark up the copy rather than the
pattern and to enlarge it as well!
Barb Wilson
Crafting Buddies Coordinator
aka Ripit on #stitch
skend...@aol.com
I have used lots of designs for T-Shirts. It doesn't have to be specifically designed for waste canvas. You just have to do a little math to find out the size, also waste canvas comes in 14 ct too.
Sharon in MI
Kendall's Korners
http://members.aol.com/skend11848/index.htm
MLadySue
::::figuring I may as well jump into the ring:::::
Basically, the *best* cross stitch/craft magazine I've ever seen was one
called "Treasures In Needlework" from Better Homes and Gardens. It was
published for about 2 years from 1992 to 1993 or thereabouts.
What I loved about it is that it had a large variety of designs. Mostly
it was cross-stitch, but there was also a little crochet, knit, hardanger
thrown in. Most of the designs were fairly complicated, although not
overly so.
Personally, I dont care too much for country stuff. I like things that
are Celtic, or Victorian, or the like. I also like to see a variety of
patterns - large, small, complicated, easier. One thing I do object to
is when magazines use a fabric or frame the piece in something like a tray
or a specialized frame and then DONT tell you where you can get this.
Hope this helps <g>
Sue :)
Ellen
I think you've put your finger on exactly why I like this magazine. They
seem to use a lot of little elements to compose a chart and they are easily
lifted to be used alone or recombined with other elements to create a new
chart altogether. Usually the verse or scripture is easily removed and
either another chart element or a verse more to my own liking can be
inserted.
--
Ellen ... ell...@cancom.net
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I may not always be right,
But I'm almost always willing to be forgiven.
Nancy Lorraine Taylor <nsta...@nortel.ca> wrote in article
<5i11os$4...@bcrkh13.bnr.ca>...
> I have to agree with you on the passages that are on the patterns,
> although not as heartily! I'd just not stitch them.
>
> I have a bunch of CCS magazines, but haven't bought any recently
> because, yes, they're all starting to look the same.
<snip>
Trish Lavis
Don't you just LOVE art nouveau designs? Those gorgeous, graceful ladies
and the beautiful lines of foliage are just so XSable. I have seen two
designs of ladies' heads in a magazine, but would love to see more
complicated efforts. Or art deco geometrics, even.
My favourite themes in design are strawberries (love the contrasts between
deep greens, sparkling reds, pristine white and yellow higlights), violets
(sentimental - my Nanna loved them) and owls. I LOVE owls! I really
DO!!! I wish someone would chart some realistic (not cutesy, cartoony)
small owls for me. Preferably Australian Boobook owls (yeah, I've seen
the one in the Baby Animals series, but it's a cartoon) or Powerful Owls.
That would be Heaven for me...
Trish {|:-}
Vicki...@elmail.co.uk
In article <5hutlb$n...@proxy5.proxy.ozemail.net>,
Trish Lavis <pla...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> I once had a graph designed specifically for a T Shirt. It had a
> pretty ginger cat positioned on the shoulder and reaching down with one
> paw to three mice on the shirt front
I have a funny feeling that I have a kit of this one lurking in the
bottom of my sewing chest, waiting for the next rainy day...very cute
> Only trouble was, I was a dill and used cheap
> shirts, so they (and my work) didn't last!
That's exactly the problem with sewing onto clothing - we wash too much
nowadays! The needlepoint itself can quickly get worn even if the colours
don't run, and handwashing all your teeshirts is a drag. However if it is
just that the garment has worn or torn somewhere else than on the sewing,
the area could be cut out and remounted on another shirt, using applique
techniques for example. (In books on antique textiles, they give lots of
examples of recycling in the past, when embroidered curtains or bed
hangings would be made over into jackets or cuffs - more important when
the pattern on your curtains was a hundred years' of household labour!!)
Using waste canvas to transfer any xstitch design is great. I started an
experimental piece using a pattern from one of the Dover books, but I
screwed up the opposite way, and stitched it onto a lovely piece of
acetate satin! It's just about finished now, so if anyone out there has
any ideas on how to get off waste canvas without drenching the underlying
cloth with water, I'd love to know!
If you do embroidery as well as xstitch, there are lots of transfer
patterns around which can go onto clothing, including lovely little
butterflies and insects which would look well in some of the new
metallicky colours that DMC have. My wedding dress had an art nouveau
embroidery in satin stitch as the centrepiece for the bodice, which was
done using a transfer onto linen that was then inserted as a panel
between the silk sections - by a professional dressmaker, I hasten to
add! But at least that doesn't need washing all that often....
I'm also very tempted by patterns of flowers growing out of breast
pockets, for heavy cotton or linen shirts. Some of the ones I've seen
then droop very realistically down the pocket.
> PPS (Sorry for the length, but I'm getting all heated up now and I do love
> the look of my own typing - read 'sound of my own voice')
On the contrary, it was a pleasure to get a good solid dose of text for
the pain of opening up the article! And I hope no-one is too annoyed by
the length of this reply....
Vicki
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TheBlues
Stephenie Labovitz <ad...@MSU.EDU> wrote in article
<3343D0...@MSU.EDU>...
> Marilyn Safier wrote:
> >
> > I have taken a dislike to 'Cross Country Stitching'; since all the
> > designs are by the same person (Linda Coleman) they all look alike. I
> > do like country (city girls do, you know!) but much more in the style
of
> > Cross-Eyed Cricket or CS & CC (old one). The other thing is EVERY
> > SINGLE design has a biblical or religious saying in it and it becomes
> > very tiresome trying to find substitute sayings 'though I have a list
of
> > sayings I'd like to stitch...nothing like having religion shoved down
> > your throat to make you 'pious'.(wrong!) I guess I've always felt that
> > it was a PRIVATE thing between you and God or whoever...
> > Just my $0.25.
> > Marilyn
>
>
>
>
> <g>
>
> Stephenie Labovitz
>
At least they could provide an alternate saying or two. Lots of the
designs are nice, but I don't want the religious sayings either.
-- Karin
"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too
dark to read."
-- Groucho Marx
blu...@iquest.net
Laurie Graham
Naunet wrote:
>
> > wide cross-section of projects. They seemed to have something in them
> > for everybody's tastes and the finished project always looked crisp and
> > attractive. Nothing cheesy! I'm not sure I'm getting my point across,
> > but I hope this helps. JMHO!
>
> You might want to check out "The Stitchery Magazine" then. I was lucky
> to even find it. This issue had a gorgeous pattern of a white leopard
> mother and baby *talking about something I never expected to find in a
> magazine but sold in charts only* as well as slightly more simple bunny
> designs *but still not so cutesy as to be annoying* and a fox or lion
> pattern. Also had a serviceable rose pattern for furniture and such
> *plan to do that someday when I can find the right cloth and a stool or
> chair for it*
> As for what I don't like about most magazines...same thing. Too simple
> of designs that I just don't see myself worrying about. The subscription
> rate for The Stitchery was like 19 dollars a year. Cross Stitch and
> Country Crafts *since renamed, I forget what* cost me 30 bucks instead.
> They said it was for the patterns of course so I am hoping the patterns
> are worth it. I sure know the Stichery's patterns were not overly
> simple. next month they are having a gorgeous dream catcher design among
> others.
> --
> @}--,--'--
> Shelah Dinwiddie - Email: scar...@mail.llion.org
> Homepage: http://scorpio.dmv.com/~princess
Just felt I should point out that "The Stitchery" has one of *my*
personal magazine dislikes. They're a "teaser" magazine. They show a
couple of coordinating charts worked up that *aren't* in the magazine,
you have to go purchase them. (The lion mentioned above is one such, and
there's a male white leopard companion piece to the mother and cub, and a
chart that coordinates w/ the rose pattern also.) I can overlook this,
and otherwise like the magazine, but it is an annoyance.
LSG
Laurie Graham
Stephenie Labovitz wrote:
>
> Marilyn Safier wrote:
> >
> > I have taken a dislike to 'Cross Country Stitching'; since all the
> > designs are by the same person (Linda Coleman) they all look alike. I
> > do like country (city girls do, you know!) but much more in the style of
> > Cross-Eyed Cricket or CS & CC (old one). The other thing is EVERY
> > SINGLE design has a biblical or religious saying in it and it becomes
> > very tiresome trying to find substitute sayings 'though I have a list of
> > sayings I'd like to stitch...nothing like having religion shoved down
> > your throat to make you 'pious'.(wrong!) I guess I've always felt that
> > it was a PRIVATE thing between you and God or whoever...
> > Just my $0.25.
> > Marilyn
>
> Amen!!!
>
> <g>
>
> Stephenie Labovitz
But it's not like this information is hidden from anyone. I figured it
out w/ the first issue I saw (and bought). And I personally like the
biblical sayings. My best friend is really into country (I'm not) and is
a minister's wife, so these designs are perfect for her. I also like the
fact that lots of these designs have small pieces that can be easily
lifted out and used to embellish clothing, etc. And just for the record,
if you're a *Christian* and your religion is a PRIVATE thing you're doing
it wrong...
LSG
beac...@aol.com
> I wish someone would chart some realistic (not cutesy, cartoony)
>small owls for me. Preferably Australian Boobook owls (yeah, I've seen
>the one in the Baby Animals series, but it's a cartoon) or Powerful Owls.
>That would be Heaven for me..
Delurking a moment to remark that there is a very serious looking owl in the Spring issue of The Stitchery catalogue. I'm not an expert in owls so I don't know what kind he is, but he is rather
handsome looking! Perhaps he might do.
~~Mary
Karen Droms
In article <334542...@earthlink.net>, dbgr...@earthlink.net says...
>> Marilyn Safier wrote:
>> > sayings I'd like to stitch...nothing like having religion shoved down
>> > your throat to make you 'pious'.(wrong!) I guess I've always felt that
>> > it was a PRIVATE thing between you and God or whoever...
>> > Just my $0.25.
>> > Marilyn
>
>out w/ the first issue I saw (and bought).
But from what I gather, the point is so many of the sayings are religious.
I just searched for a sampler to do for my parents' 50th anniversary, and
had to discard most of what I found because of religious sayings that
weren't easily changed. I finally found one that I liked, and was able to
change the word "God" to "love" and still have it make sense.
>And just for the record,
>if you're a *Christian* and your religion is a PRIVATE thing you're doing
>it wrong...
As an atheist, I won't presume to know what you mean here, but even I find
telling someone the way they are practicing their religion is wrong is a
might...presumptuous.
Karen
Naunet
debbie frost wrote:
>
> In article <5i0fm7$n...@proxy5.proxy.ozemail.net>, Trish Lavis
> <pla...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
> > I agree! I don't necessarily want to STITCH my spirituality etc etc.
> > Aside from that, though, I keep getting the most obnoxious spam from some
> > religious organisation that wants me to "email soon, won't you?".
I am getting this same email. You can't email back because it bounces as
you've said. I like discussing religion with open minded people. But my
beliefs are a bit different from what seems to be in that message and
many others. It's becoming irritating. I've gotten that mail about ten
times now.
> Oh, so this is where it came from. I get them too. Don't ya just hate
> mailing lists. Sometimes I'm afraid to post for fear of what spam I might
> get next or what mail list I'll be put on. In regards to this particular
> spam, I am a Christian, but I don't believe you'll help anybody by
> annoying them.
>
> Debbie
As to solve it I now post using my other email *web based* and it's just
easier for me all around. Then I don't have to deal with stuff at my
usual email location and I check in often enough to catch if one of
those people I wanna talk to *you all* mails me.
Naunet
Naunet
> With the evolution of colour photocopiers, colour charts are
> relatively simple to colour. Yes, I agree with you that it was the
> intention to prevent this, but it still goes on....
The one thing with the print shops here in town is they won't color copy
anything copyrighted without a note. So even though most designers say
we can copy for marking and send it back or tear it up, they won't do
it.:( I got into highlighting while working on my own chart and I kind
of like it. Now if I could only make a copy to do that with cause I
sure am not going to mess up the main copy I have and I'd gladly send
the marked one to the designer if they wanted me to.
> I like to photocopy all my stuff and mark up the copy rather than the
> pattern and to enlarge it as well!
I am thinking of having my charts printed on a pretty cream colored card
stock though. More for looks because i already know people can easily
photocopy and colored stock won't prevent that.
Naunet
Laurie Graham
skend...@aol.com wrote:
>
> I have used lots of designs for T-Shirts. It doesn't have to be specifically designed for waste canvas. You just have to do a little
math to find out the siz
>
>
If you want something smaller than 14 count for waste canvas, you can use
a higher count linen and work over 1. Just baste and be careful not to
stitch thru the ground threads.
LSG
Naunet
Karen Droms wrote:
> But from what I gather, the point is so many of the sayings are religious.
> I just searched for a sampler to do for my parents' 50th anniversary, and
> had to discard most of what I found because of religious sayings that
> weren't easily changed. I finally found one that I liked, and was able to
> change the word "God" to "love" and still have it make sense.
And I bet they loved it:) I am thinking of looking for something for my
mom for her anniversary in August. Just not sure what yet. I believe it
is their 26th and I find plenty of 25th ones, need to change some stuff
or design my own.
> >And just for the record,
> >if you're a *Christian* and your religion is a PRIVATE thing you're doing
> >it wrong...
>
> As an atheist, I won't presume to know what you mean here, but even I find
> telling someone the way they are practicing their religion is wrong is a
> might...presumptuous.
I'm not an athiest and not sure I would call myself Christian *that says
you believe in Christ and I am not sure I do just now* but I also would
not presume to tell someone they were doing it wrong. To me religion is
a private thing. My husband is athiest but I know I believe in
something. I am just not going to push my beliefs *mixture from several
religions* onto anyone else. I don't mind people feeling open about
their beliefs. I am pleased when I see how happy it makes them. I just
don't want to be 'converted' so anxiously.
Naunet
*Who is going through her brother trying to do that...and he like so
many other people is a hypocrit so....*
Naunet
I finally downloaded the PCstitch viewer so that I can see the .pat
files. However, now I can't find where on earth they all are? Any ideas
on some sites that have charts up for downloading in this type? I am
eager to try the new 'toy'. I do know about the one lily pattern by TW.
I want more:):)
Naunet
Naunet
> Just felt I should point out that "The Stitchery" has one of *my*
> personal magazine dislikes. They're a "teaser" magazine. They show a
> couple of coordinating charts worked up that *aren't* in the magazine,
> you have to go purchase them. (The lion mentioned above is one such, and
> there's a male white leopard companion piece to the mother and cub, and a
> chart that coordinates w/ the rose pattern also.) I can overlook this,
> and otherwise like the magazine, but it is an annoyance.
>
> LSG
True, that is a bit annoying. In my case some of the companion pieces
aren't something I want anyway, and in the case of the lion...I wouldn't
mind getting the other of that. I suppose it's just a good business
point for them, since it draws more orders. The rest of the magazine
seems fairly good, like you said:)
Aramanth Dawe
ag...@mail.utexas.edu.no-spam (Anne Gwin) wrote:
>In article <5hutlb$n...@proxy5.proxy.ozemail.net>, Trish Lavis
><pla...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>> designs on T Shirts. Only trouble was, I was a dill and used cheap
>Is a dill like a dag? What _is_ a dag, anyway?
>AustinAnne
>--
"Dag" is a generic Aussie term - you could translate it using 'fool'
or 'idiot' to get a similar meaning , I guess. It's a (mostly) gentle
term. When my kids are doing things that are silly but funny I'll
call them dags, for instance.
However, you do _not_ want to know the derivation of the term.
Aramanth
--
From the Hallowed Portals of House le Mowbus.
Where someone was perceptive enough to name daughters for Goddesses of War,
and silly enough to be surprised when they lived up to it!
ma...@ozemail.com.au
Aramanth Dawe,
Adelaide, Australia
Trish Lavis
Yep! Aramanth is spot on! While I like to THINK I'm a fraightfully
well-educated and equally well-spoken person, I can't help myself... My
epal tells me I write with an accent AND I DO!!! My grandparents were
dyed-in-the-wool Aussies of Irish extraction and they used all sorts of
idiomatic phrases. I do too, 'cause I reckon they just add to the colour
of your speech. That's so necessary here, where we only use Plain Text to
communicate.
A dag is the dirtiest, smelliest, most unpleasant part of a fleece which
comes from the dirtiest, smelliest, most unpleasant part of the sheep.
The use of the term in reference to a person can be malicious (implying
that the bloke is of completely no account) or affectionate (implying the
bloke is just a 'disreputable fellow').
Kids use the term in both ways and are usually mortified when you tell
them exactly what it means. Doesn't stop them saying it, though.
Cheers!
Trish {|:-}
Michelle Donald
On Wed, 02 Apr 1997 22:46:46 -0600, ag...@mail.utexas.edu.no-spam
(Anne Gwin) wrote:
>In article <5hutlb$n...@proxy5.proxy.ozemail.net>, Trish Lavis
><pla...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
>> designs on T Shirts. Only trouble was, I was a dill and used cheap
>
>Is a dill like a dag? What _is_ a dag, anyway?
>
Oh you may regret asking this....
Firstly though - a dill can also be known as a silly sausage, dim
witted or being a bit blonde.... Usually "dillness" is a passing
moment, temporary state of being. Where as (IMHO) being a dag is a way
of life.
Literally a dag is the dried up bits of "pooh" stuck in the wool of a
sheeps behind. Sorry you did ask.....;-)
Dags when refered to people - have a range of meanings, some refer to
dress - casual almost eccentric and not appropriate for the moment,
other references relate to ones sense of humour - here one might be
called a "bit of a dag", usually a dry wit. Others would use it to
refer to geeks or nerd like folk.
Mostly I heard this expression used in NZ rather than Australia,
there dags are also called "hard case". eg: "He's a hard case".
It's language great there are so many words whose usage we take for
granted, but when you have to translate yourself to others whom also
speak "English" it is very interesting....
BFN
OOROO
Michelle
wizheart
You've all been very nice not to flame *dbgraham*
but I thnk her point is that if someone claims to be a Christian,
i.e., following the teachings of Christ, He commanded them to go
into the world and spread His gospel. The choice of one's
religion may be a private decision, but the practicing of it
rarely is, Christian or otherwise. By keeping one's Christian
religion private, one would not be following this commandment. In
practicing certain other facets of Chrisitanity, He did teach us
we could/should (depending on your interpretation) be private, for
example, in giving and in praying.
At the same time, there are those who go, IMHO, way beyond
teaching/telling to cramming their ideaoloy down your throat
whether you want it or not. This is not what Christ did. He
taught us to be known by our deeds, not our words.
I see these subjects come up on other newgroups--someone is
usually very nasty, and it certainly is not always the
atheist/agnostic/etc. Sure makes me ashamed.
Now I promise TPTB not to pursue this way-way-OT any more.
Just wanted to compliment ya'll on the tone of your posts. Three
topics I tend to avoid in stitching groups are politics, religion,
and...oops, I forgot the other one. ;D
Csue
--
Bananas have no place in email: wizh...@BANANASbigfoot.com
"...I plan to live forever." --Cdr. William T. Riker
"There can be only one." --Connor MacLeod
"Not the one." --Zathrus
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Naunet <nau...@hotmail.com> wrote in article
<334588...@hotmail.com>...
lesley hilliard
>Stephenie Labovitz wrote:
>>
>> Marilyn Safier wrote:
>> >
>> > I have taken a dislike to 'Cross Country Stitching'; since all the
>> > designs are by the same person (Linda Coleman) they all look alike. I
>> > do like country (city girls do, you know!) but much more in the style of
>> > Cross-Eyed Cricket or CS & CC (old one). The other thing is EVERY
>> > SINGLE design has a biblical or religious saying in it and it becomes
>> > very tiresome trying to find substitute sayings 'though I have a list of
>> > sayings I'd like to stitch...nothing like having religion shoved down
>> > your throat to make you 'pious'.(wrong!) I guess I've always felt that
>> > it was a PRIVATE thing between you and God or whoever...
>> > Just my $0.25.
>> > Marilyn
>>
>> Amen!!!
>>
>> <g>
>>
>> Stephenie Labovitz
>
>
>But it's not like this information is hidden from anyone. I figured it
>out w/ the first issue I saw (and bought). And I personally like the
>biblical sayings. My best friend is really into country (I'm not) and is
>a minister's wife, so these designs are perfect for her. I also like the
>fact that lots of these designs have small pieces that can be easily
>lifted out and used to embellish clothing, etc. And just for the record,
>if you're a *Christian* and your religion is a PRIVATE thing you're doing
>it wrong...
>
>LSG
Doing what wrong. All religion is between the person and their version
of God. This is not the forum for debating this anyway. I say to each
his own and leave me out of it.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Lesley
lhil...@idirect.com
ladybeary on #stitch
madeu...@aol.com
> My wedding dress had an art nouveau
>embroidery in satin stitch as the centrepiece for the bodice, which was
>done using a transfer onto linen that was then inserted as a panel
>between the silk sections - by a professional dressmaker, I hasten to
>add! But at least that doesn't need washing all that often....
>
>
Oh, Oh, Oh. Does this mean you found a Keeper?
Tere
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Thanks for Noticing Me ~~ Eeyore
Beth Katz
Kim Doyle wrote:
> I've seen a lot of posts about color vs. black & white and I've
> come to the conclusion that I'm one of the very few who prefers
> color. A lot of times I won't buy a pattern even if I like the
> design because for me the black & white charts are confusing to
> read. I guess ideally a chart would be in color with symbols so
> that those who photocopy to enlarge or whatever would be able to.
The Stitchery uses color but each color also has its own symbol.
I like the color in the chart so I can see the overall effect,
but I am having a terrible time stitching from a color only chart
even after blowing it up to 150% and writing the floss numbers in
various blocks of color. But I've been reading the notes about
needlepointers improvising, and I'm not as concerned about the
little embelishments I've added.
I just resubscribed to Just CrossStitch. Am considering The Stitchery.
I'm concerned that they have only two or three designers, but I
like their styles.
Beth Katz
ka...@cs.millersv.edu
http://cs.millersv.edu/~katz
Alison M. Hendon
Marilyn Safier <MSA...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>Hi Jennifer,
>I am working on MIZRACH!!! I was so excited to see that someone else is
>doing it! After I started it I noticed that the photo in Just
>CrossStitch makes it look royal blue and it really uses turquoise color
>flosses. I wish I had switched to royal blue but after all that blending
>filament and 1/4 stitches, I 'ain't' touching it!
>Thanks for posting!
>Marilyn
Hi Marilyn - which issue of Just CrossStitch is MIZRACH in?
Alison
Sue
Trish Lavis <pla...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>Don't you just LOVE art nouveau designs?
Love 'em! I don't know if it falls directly into art nouveau or art
deco or what, but I love those Erte ladies. I've seen a couple of the
bronzes (or whatever they're made from) on the Antiques Roadshow (the
real one from England, not the American wannabe, it's just not
eccentric enough) and they are lovely. Would love to do a project of
one of these.
> I LOVE owls! I really DO!!! I wish someone would chart some realistic (not cutesy, cartoony)
>small owls for me. Preferably Australian Boobook owls (yeah, I've seen
>the one in the Baby Animals series, but it's a cartoon) or Powerful Owls.
>That would be Heaven for me...
>Trish {|:-}
Trish, have you checked out the designs by Crossed Wings? They have
some owls that are very realistic, but I'm not certain what kind of
owls they are. Pegasus also has a book of owls, I think. I like
owls too. For my money, the Crossed Wings are the best - I love all
their designs!
Sue in Montreal
---
Sue sue.bi...@sympatico.ca
*** Carpe Diem, mes enfants!
**** What may be may not be. Scottish Proverb
***** Conform and be dull. J. Frank Dobie
Jennifer
Hi everyone :-)
Today I finished MIZRACH by Barbara Ann Richter which I've done for good
friends of ours. It is just beautiful finished :-) I started it back
in Nov/Dec 96 and I've finished it pretty quickly for me!
This means that I was allowed to start another project in my rotation
and I've just spent a couple of hours working on my first ever TW design
- Diamonds in Squares. I have a pile of her other charts but can't
start a big one until I've finished the MLI in my rotation. Anyway, I
thought that DIS would be a good introduction to blended colours... I
know I havn't heard anyone talking about the DIS design on this
newsgroup - has anyone done it and have hints????
With regards
Jennifer in Sydney, Australia
kiw...@s054.aone.net.au
*Where we love is Home. Home that our feet may leave, but not our
hearts*
Jennifer
Aramanth Dawe wrote:
things that are silly but funny I'll
> call them dags, for instance.
>
> However, you do _not_ want to know the derivation of the term.
Hehehe :-)
You mean that you don't think there are too many sheep farmers on this
newsgroup then Aramanth???? ;-)
Deborah Thomas
sue.bi...@sympatico.ca (Sue) wrote:
>Trish Lavis <pla...@ozemail.com.au> wrote, in part:
>
>>Don't you just LOVE art nouveau designs?
>
>Love 'em! I don't know if it falls directly into art nouveau or art
>deco or what, but I love those Erte ladies. I've seen a couple of the
>bronzes (or whatever they're made from) on the Antiques Roadshow (the
>real one from England, not the American wannabe, it's just not
>eccentric enough) and they are lovely. Would love to do a project of
>one of these.
IMO, Erte is very much Art Nouveau -- and if you like those, you
should check out the Mucha designs from Ross Originals. Mucha's
posters are very much in the same style as Erte.
DebT
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Willene
I've been getting a lot of this type of spam also. My usual response to
stuff like this is to mail it right back to them. But what is disturbing
is I get a return message that the address is "unknown" to the server.
Interesting that they are using a fictitious e-mail address over a server
who doesn't know them.
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Willene
Bentonville, Arkansas
Marilyn Safier
Jennifer wrote:
>
> Hi everyone :-)
> Today I finished MIZRACH by Barbara Ann Richter which I've done for good
> friends of ours. It is just beautiful finished :-) I started it back
> in Nov/Dec 96 and I've finished it pretty quickly for me!
>
> This means that I was allowed to start another project in my rotation
> and I've just spent a couple of hours working on my first ever TW design
> - Diamonds in Squares. I have a pile of her other charts but can't
> start a big one until I've finished the MLI in my rotation. Anyway, I
> thought that DIS would be a good introduction to blended colours... I
> know I havn't heard anyone talking about the DIS design on this
> newsgroup - has anyone done it and have hints????
>
> Jennifer in Sydney, Australia
> kiw...@s054.aone.net.au
> *Where we love is Home. Home that our feet may leave, but not our
> hearts*
Hi Jennifer,
Stephanie M. Thorson
On Fri, 4 Apr 1997, Laurie Graham wrote:
> Naunet wrote:
<snips>
> > You might want to check out "The Stitchery Magazine" then. I was lucky
> > to even find it. This issue had a gorgeous pattern of a white leopard
> > mother and baby *talking about something I never expected to find in a
> > magazine but sold in charts only* as well as slightly more simple bunny
> > designs *but still not so cutesy as to be annoying* and a fox or lion
> > pattern. Also had a serviceable rose pattern for furniture and such
> > *plan to do that someday when I can find the right cloth and a stool or
> > chair for it*
<more snips>
> Just felt I should point out that "The Stitchery" has one of *my*
> personal magazine dislikes. They're a "teaser" magazine. They show a
> couple of coordinating charts worked up that *aren't* in the magazine,
> you have to go purchase them. (The lion mentioned above is one such, and
> there's a male white leopard companion piece to the mother and cub, and a
> chart that coordinates w/ the rose pattern also.) I can overlook this,
> and otherwise like the magazine, but it is an annoyance.
White leopards? Like snow leopards or clouded leopards? What issue? How
do you get back issues? How can you order the "teaser" companion piece?
Publisher? Please, someone! I've been looking for a good snow leopard
chart for a long time. I saw one once by Solomon Dixon (I think) but
didn't like it much - the faces of the leopards were not very detailed. I
have since seen some of Cathy Livingston's(? I'm bad with names this week)
charts - Cheetah and Lion Family - in my local shop and like her style
much better, but I haven't seen any other snow leopards.
TIA,
Stephanie
*****************************************************************************
Stephanie M. Thorson | SCA: Lady Alianora Munro
Dept. of Scottish History | Clan White Wing
University of St Andrews | Tarkhan, Khanate Red Lion
Trish Lavis
Aaarrgghhhh!!!&&^%^%$^@$#@# They're STILL doing it!!! And y'know what? I
reckon they got my email address from this ng. I only post to one other,
and that's an Australian gardening one: only about 14 posts are ever
there, so I doubt it's a sought-after one by the God-botherers.
EVERY DAY, there are two or three copies of the same message: "Hi! I
just wanted to share something with you. Did you know that Jesus is
Lord? etc etc et b*****cetera!!!
My beliefs. I'll keep to myself except to say that I am ALREADY a
Christian and I don't want these messages any more. I sent a reply
suggesting that the sender was a Satanist, but he clearly doesn't even
read his mail (illiterate as well, see?) or perhaps he's just kneeling
right now, praying for me with great earnestness.
It amounts to stealing: he's costing me the online time it takes to read,
digest and deal with his mail. Calls himself a Christian...
HAhahahahahahahahahhahahahhahhahahaha <= HYSTERIA Trish {|:-(
Naunet
Stephanie M. Thorson wrote:
> White leopards? Like snow leopards or clouded leopards? What issue? How
> do you get back issues? How can you order the "teaser" companion piece?
> Publisher? Please, someone! I've been looking for a good snow leopard
> chart for a long time. I saw one once by Solomon Dixon (I think) but
> didn't like it much - the faces of the leopards were not very detailed. I
> have since seen some of Cathy Livingston's(? I'm bad with names this week)
> charts - Cheetah and Lion Family - in my local shop and like her style
> much better, but I haven't seen any other snow leopards.
Ok. _The Stitchery Magazine_ May 1997. It's called "Safe Haven" and
they are snow leopards. Very detailed and beautiful. The companion
piece is available is available by order in the same issue for $4.50.
It has an order form and everything with gobs of different leaflets on
it as well. You might be able to call their number at 1-800-825-8996
and try to get this issue. In the magazine it also has a page for
ordering some of their back issues. Oh and it lists the Snow leopards
as published by Stitchworld.Designed by Licia Lewis. Hope that helps.
Naunet
band...@aol.com
One thing about magazines that I must add that really peeves me is when they're shrink-wrapped at the newstand. How are we supposed to know if we'll even like the patterns included if we can't scan
the pages? I know that this is done usually when there is a freebie item such as an alphabet pattern leaflet or such that isn't attached to the magazine. But I'm never going to buy a magazine
sight-unseen off a newstand. So there!
Terri B. in MD
carmichael
I've been getting the same type of annoying stuff - religious,
money-making and erotica.girls junk - I've sent them all back too -
and the only one that bounced back at me was the religious one.
Maybe they were on the UFO by that time? ;-)
Sharon :-)
(Canada)
vicki...@elmail.co.uk
In article <19970405225...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
madeu...@aol.com wrote:
> Oh, Oh, Oh. Does this mean you found a Keeper?
> Tere
Somehow this thread is landing up with a lot of linguistic queries! Now
that we are all enlightened as to what a 'dag' is (the people in my
office who watch Aussie soaps were already well up on me there) what's a
Keeper in this context, Tere?
Vicki
(Ignorance may be bliss...)
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Ellen
Trish
If you are using Micosoft's IE browser and mail program, you can change
your email address in options.. under news. Go to server and add a word to
your email address. I put the word, remove, in mine. Most spammers pick up
your address from the headers in the ngs.. adding a word to yours, will
make it bounce back to them when they send it. Of course, it does for
everyone else too, but spammers can't usually be bothered to look for the
problem and don't resend. I added my correct email address in my sig. for
regular posters just in case they have a problem.
It cut my spam by 100% so far <G>
Ellen ... ell...@cancom.net
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Pleasant words are like a honeycomb,
Sweetness to the soul and health to the body.
Proverbs 16:24
Trish Lavis <pla...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in article
<5i99vj$5...@proxy5.proxy.ozemail.net>...
Tara Scholtz
Jennifer wrote:
> This means that I was allowed to start another project in my rotation
> and I've just spent a couple of hours working on my first ever TW design
> - Diamonds in Squares. I
> newsgroup - has anyone done it and have hints????
I have!!! There are a few mistakes in the chart. If I remember
correctly they are in the lower right hand corner (and one in the lower
left). If you use the upper left corner as your model & guide you'll be
fine.
Email me at ta...@wam.umd.edu if you have any more questions.
--
Tara Scholtz
ts...@umail.umd.edu
McKeldin Periodicals
University of Maryland at College Park
Terri Carl
On 7 Apr 1997, Ellen wrote:
> If you are using Micosoft's IE browser and mail program, you can change
> your email address in options.. under news.
[snip]
Another thing you can do in this case is contact the spammer's internet
service provider. The person who keeps spamming me with the religious
stuff is using ibm.net as an isp -- so I turned the header display on (so
you could see where the message is going between me and the sender) and
forwarded the note to <postm...@ibm.net>. And since it's IBM, they even
opened an incident report for each one of these I sent them a copy of.
(Not that those incident reports really say anything, like "we found the
guy and we're going to string him up by his toes after we erase his hard
drive." But it does make me feel better to know someone knows about it...
This doesn't work with junk mail propagators like cyberpromo; they forge
their address and cover their tracks, just so they don't have to suffer
any consequences. (The spam buster that someone -- Bertha? -- mentioned
a couple of weeks ago is an excellent idea, if you're using a Unix-based
system./ It will allow you to filter out messages from known spammers and
will bounce those messages back to the spammer with forged headers, so
their autoreply doesn't work, either, and they're the ones that get all
the junk messages about non-delivery of e-mail! In fact, as soon as I get
a chance, it's going on my e-mail account!)
Terri (who you gonna call?)
Terri Carl
ter...@neosoft.com
whitney
Trish Lavis wrote:
>
> Aaarrgghhhh!!!&&^%^%$^@$#@# They're STILL doing it!!! And y'know what? I
> reckon they got my email address from this ng. I only post to one other,
> and that's an Australian gardening one: only about 14 posts are ever
> there, so I doubt it's a sought-after one by the God-botherers.
>
> EVERY DAY, there are two or three copies of the same message: "Hi! I
> just wanted to share something with you. Did you know that Jesus is
> Lord? etc etc et b*****cetera!!!
>
> My beliefs. I'll keep to myself except to say that I am ALREADY a
> Christian and I don't want these messages any more. I sent a reply
> suggesting that the sender was a Satanist, but he clearly doesn't even
> read his mail (illiterate as well, see?) or perhaps he's just kneeling
> right now, praying for me with great earnestness.
>
> It amounts to stealing: he's costing me the online time it takes to read,
> digest and deal with his mail. Calls himself a Christian...
>
> HAhahahahahahahahahhahahahhahhahahaha <= HYSTERIA Trish {|:-(
Trish,
I reported same problem to my server. He investigated and said user
address is a phoney....so he's not getting his spam back :(
Rhonda
Larry Anderson & Diane Hare
My visit to Barnes & Noble last Saturday reviewed SEVERAL stitchery
magazines in plastic slip-jackets with the magazine and wee free kit in
the front pocket and a design leaflet in the back pocket - EVERYTHING
fully accessible and neatly arranged.
>From what I've seen before, the sealed plastic bags are more of an
inventory aid than theft deterrent. I've seen 'em open and partially
empty too often.
It was nice to be able to conveniently examine the entire contents.
Diane Hare/MS.HARE foxn...@goldrush.com San Andreas,CA snotmyfault
Dandalions
And kept a few of us who didn't pay attention out too!
Sara
Ellen <ell...@cancom.remove.net> wrote in article
<01bc435c$db589880$84d9...@ellenc.cancom.net>...
> Trish
> If you are using Micosoft's IE browser and mail program, you can change
> your email address in options.. under news. Go to server and add a word
to
> your email address. I put the word, remove, in mine. Most spammers pick
up
> your address from the headers in the ngs.. adding a word to yours, will
> make it bounce back to them when they send it. Of course, it does for
> everyone else too, but spammers can't usually be bothered to look for the
> problem and don't resend. I added my correct email address in my sig. for
> regular posters just in case they have a problem.
> It cut my spam by 100% so far <G>
> Ellen ... ell...@cancom.net
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Pleasant words are like a honeycomb,
> Sweetness to the soul and health to the body.
> Proverbs 16:24
>
> Trish Lavis <pla...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in article
> <5i99vj$5...@proxy5.proxy.ozemail.net>...
Dandalions
If they would send the issues to the subscribers in plastic wrap - maybe
we'd actually get a good copy! Seems to me they're doing it backwards!
Sara
band...@aol.com wrote in article
<19970407053...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
Aramanth Dawe
Jennifer <kiw...@s054.aone.net.au> wrote:
>Aramanth Dawe wrote:
>things that are silly but funny I'll
>> call them dags, for instance.
>>
>> However, you do _not_ want to know the derivation of the term.
>Hehehe :-)
>You mean that you don't think there are too many sheep farmers on this
>newsgroup then Aramanth???? ;-)
>With regards
>Jennifer in Sydney, Australia
>kiw...@s054.aone.net.au
>*Where we love is Home. Home that our feet may leave, but not our
>hearts*
Yep. Sheep farmers are a breed apart (fortunately!)
Aramanth
--
From the Hallowed Portals of House le Mowbus.
Where someone was perceptive enough to name daughters for Goddesses of War,
and silly enough to be surprised when they lived up to it!
ma...@ozemail.com.au
Aramanth Dawe,
Adelaide, Australia
madeu...@aol.com
>what's a
>Keeper in this context, Tere?
Vicki: I was responding to someone, Bertha???, who said at least her wedding dress didn't need to be cleaned often. I was being (trying to?) be funny, and asked if her wedding dress doesn't need to
be cleaned often because she's not constantly getting married. In other words, her husband is a "Keeper". Mine is! Won't trade him for nuthin!
sdko...@aol.com
I love the idea of changing my e-mail address in the header, does anybody know if this can be done with AOL?
>
>Ellen <ell...@cancom.remove.net> wrote in article
><01bc435c$db589880$84d9...@ellenc.cancom.net>...
>> Trish
>> If you are using Micosoft's IE browser and mail program, you can change
>> your email address in options.. under news. Go to server and add a word
>to
>> your email address. I put the word, remove, in mine. Most spammers pick
>up
>> your address from the headers in the ngs.. adding a word to yours, will
>> make it bounce back to them when they send it. Of course, it does for
>> everyone else too, but spammers can't usually be bothered to look for the
>> problem and don't resend. I added my correct email address in my sig. for
>> regular posters just in case they have a problem.
>> It cut my spam by 100% so far <G>
>> Ellen ... ell...@cancom.net
>> ~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sarah Koehler / Ferndale WA
sdko...@aol.com
GO MARINERS!!!
Micheline Beeson
I really miss Needlepoint Plus. I don't care for simplistic or cutesy
designs. I might do one a year as a gift for someone who wants one,
but mostly I like to create pieces that have artistic value. The
designs were beautiful and challenging, and used a variety of gorgeous
fibers. I still have all my copies, so at least I can leaf through
and find designs I haven't made yet.
Micheline
notmc...@aol.com
>I've been getting the same type of annoying stuff - religious,
>money-making and erotica.girls junk - I've sent them all back too -
>and the only one that bounced back at me was the religious one.
>Maybe they were on the UFO by that time? ;-)
>
>
>
One trick I try that works sometimes is to cc: the reply to postm...@domain.whatever. So if I get something from I'mh...@domain.com, I reply also to postm...@domain.com, with a message that this
was unsolicited and that I want to be taken off the list immediately. Sometimes they both come back, sometimes just the one to I'mhot, which means I know the postmaster got it, and hopefully will
put a stop to it. Makes me feel only slightly better.
Terri N.
Martha Beth Lewis
I took a different tack to spam responses. I used to send them back
with "please remove me" in the body text (same header) but they always
bounced. I ask you, now how, were I interested, would I be able to get
in touch with theM???? Maybe it's just a spam for spam's sake.
Well, I thot I was real clever. I changed the header to "YES!!! Tell
me more! Sounds great!" adn even THAT came back. Drat!!!
Now I just ignore anything with a blank header, one that says "hi" or
something generic like that, or with a header that makes it a tipoff
that it's junk mail.
I also wonder where they get my email addy. It's not like I hang out
anywhere but RCTN!!
Martha Beth
mw...@aol.com
What, exactly, is *wrong* with a magazine having Christian religious sayings in
it's needlework???? If Cross Country Stitching had lots of Jewish sayings in it,
or Islamic sayings, would everyone be so upset? If you don't like it, don't buy it! I was thrilled to actually find a magazine with many uncommon scriptures in the charts, because that happens to
be of interest to *me*. I see several publications at my local needlework store that are all Jewish designs --- and I say more power to them! Why does everybody have to trash things that are
Christian, but no one would dare say the same things about another religion? And if you are *not* a Christian, then how would you know if it is "right" or "wrong" to keep your religion private if
you are a Christian? I personally have no idea if it is considered "right" or "wrong" to keep your religion private if you are a member of the Islamic faith. I figure that is *their* business, and
I am not going to tell them how to practice their faith.
(getting off soapbox, putting on asbestos suit, and going to practice my needlework religiously!)
Pam
>n article <334542...@earthlink.net>, dbgr...@earthlink.net says...
>>> Marilyn Safier wrote:
>>>> > your throat to make you 'pious'.(wrong!) I guess I've always felt that
>>> > it was a PRIVATE thing between you and God or whoever...
>>> > Just my $0.25.
>>> > Marilyn
>>
>>But it's not like this information is hidden from anyone. I figured it
>>out w/ the first issue I saw (and bought).
>
>But from what I gather, the point is so many of the sayings are religious.
>I just searched for a sampler to do for my parents' 50th anniversary, and
>had to discard most of what I found because of religious sayings that
>weren't easily changed. I finally found one that I liked, and was able to
>change the word "God" to "love" and still have it make sense.
>
>>And just for the record,
>>if you're a *Christian* and your religion is a PRIVATE thing you're doing
>>it wrong...
>
>As an atheist, I won't presume to know what you mean here, but even I find
>telling someone the way they are practicing their religion is wrong is a
>might...presumptuous.
>
>Karen
Trish Lavis
I really don't mean to do this to death (no - really), but I think they DO
get our email addresses from rctn. It's the only place I post to often
enough to make a difference. It's the only place I regularly go - and
funnily, I get these spams almost immediately if I post after a bit of a
break. Maybe there's something we could do? (Need advice on that one -
although I'm a wife and mother, my ingenuity has its limits).
Thank you all for replying to my hysterical ravings - it helps enormously
when I realise I'm not the only one.
Trish {|:-}
Trish Lavis
Ohmigoodness, I did that and sat back thinking how clever I'd been. Next
day, I got an email from an irate woman in Canada. Somehow she'd received
my complaint and was BALLISTIC about ME sending HER spam!!! I died of
embarrassment, realising what I'd done without meaning to. Now, it's all
I can manage just to send the occasional post here.
The 'anonymity' of the Net is good in one way, but in another it means
that total strangers can upset you with a few words in anger and haste.
We really have to think before we email/post, don't we?
Trish {|;-}
LStanton12
The thing that I do to unsolicited mail is to Forward it to TOSspam on the
AOL internet. It is very embarressing, especially when my sister opened
up my computer for me to check the mail, I was busy at the time and asked
her to, there was this nude woman, I mean in the altogether! She was very
shocked, to say the least, and my face was beet red!
Lynda
yay...@fred.net
As best as I can tell, it's possible to sort of do a newsgroup
"scan" and obtain all the email addresses of anyone posting.
Since I changed my news reader preferences to reflect a bogus
email address, I haven't gotten a single spam. I highly recommend
it! This may not be a perfect cure, but it has worked so far.
That's why you'll see the subjects of my posts with
(yay...@fred.net) at the end, instead of my true email address.
My "reply-to" address is my real one, so if someone were to email
me directly after reading a post, it would go to the right place.
If you want to try this, find a place in your news reader that
allows you to configure these options. I use freeagent, and under
Options/Preferences/UserProfile, it asks for email address, full
name and organization (all of which you can feel free to make as
silly as you want). Then there's a field for reply-to address,
which I leave as my real one.
Hope this helps. I guess we should be comforted that this
newsgroup gets about 1/100th of the spams some others do...??
Nancy
Ellen
I'm really so very, very sorry about that. I'm quite active on another ng
as well though and the amount of spam I get was horrendous. The religious
freak was the last straw! I used to use properties to look for their real
address and bounce it back to them, but I finally realized that I was
spending far too much of my time on junk mail. Now, I just don't get any.
Of course, I also don't spend time cruising the web (I think they can pick
up your email address there too)
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Dandalions <dand...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in article
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> And kept a few of us who didn't pay attention out too!
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> Sara
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> Ellen <ell...@cancom.remove.net> wrote in article
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> > Trish
> > If you are using Micosoft's IE browser and mail program, you can change
> > your email address in options.. under news. Go to server and add a word
> to
> > your email address. I put the word, remove, in mine. Most spammers pick
> up
> > your address from the headers in the ngs.. adding a word to yours, will
> > make it bounce back to them when they send it. Of course, it does for
> > everyone else too, but spammers can't usually be bothered to look for
the
> > problem and don't resend. I added my correct email address in my sig.
for
> > regular posters just in case they have a problem.
> > It cut my spam by 100% so far <G>
> > Ellen ... ell...@cancom.net
Karen Droms
In article <19970408052...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, mw...@aol.com
says...
>
>What, exactly, is *wrong* with a magazine having Christian religious
sayings in
>it's needlework????
There's nothing *wrong* with it...but some of us dislike it. And to answer
your question, if every sampler in a magazine had an Islam or Judaic saying
it, I would dislike that equally. I have almost every issue of Cross
Stitich and Country Crafts is all of its various incarnations over the
years, along with several other magainzes I've picked up alng the way, and
when I went searching thorugh those dozens of issue trying to find a sampler
for my parents anniversary that did not have a religious saying, I couldn't
find one--I've had to modify the saying on one sampler that I liked to make
it appropriate. Now you can say, "Just don't buy it" but then where does
that leave me? Out in the cross stitch hallway?
Karen (who went into the hallway rather than be subjected to prayer in
schoold when she was but a wee lass)
S. Larsen
mw...@aol.com wrote:
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> What, exactly, is *wrong* with a magazine having Christian religious sayings in
> it's needlework????
Not a thing. I don't happen to care for it myself, but I wouldn't
prevent the magazine from being published, nor do I think anyone
else would.
If Cross Country Stitching had lots of Jewish sayings in it,
> or Islamic sayings, would everyone be so upset?
I don't think anyone's particularly upset. But, now that you
mention it, it would be nice to see other religious viewpoints
represented occasionally. The *predominance* of Christianity
sometimes gets me down.
> If you don't like it, don't buy it!
I don't.
>I was thrilled to actually find a magazine with many uncommon
>scriptures in the charts, because that happens to
> be of interest to *me*.
I'm glad for you. Really.
>I see several publications at my local needlework store that are all >Jewish designs --- and I say more power to them! Why does everybody >have to trash things that are
> Christian, but no one would dare say the same things about another religion?
'Scuse me, but no one's trashing anything here. But if there were
criticism, it would probably be because Christianity is *there*, in
your face so to speak, while other religions give the appearance of
being more circumspect.Being someone with a somewhat different belief
system, I've been aware of Christians trashing other people on
occasion. Ain't nobody perfect here! :-)
>And if you are *not* a Christian, then how would you know if it is
>"right" or "wrong" to keep your religion private if
> you are a Christian?
In what is supposed to be a free and tolerant society, I think the
point here is that no one should try to force their beliefs on
anyone else. It's not a matter of "right" or "wrong", but only a
matter of trying to get along in a complicated world. An exuberant
Christian may not think he/she is forcing anything on anyone, but
another person might see it differently. So in this instance
"keeping it private" is a means of respecting the other person's
feelings.
> (getting off soapbox, putting on asbestos suit, and going to practice my needlework religiously!)
>
> Pam
I appreciate your feelings, Pam, and hope I haven't offended you
with my response. I usually try to stay out of religious discussions,
especially in an inappropriate forum, but generalities such as
"everyone is upset" and "everybody trashes" tend to bug me. They
don't go very far toward promoting world peace. :-)
Sandi