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DLReid

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Nov 24, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/24/95
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Do you ever have problems with listings/postings not coming through to
you? I'm taking a sampler class from Kay Foley who's posting to the Group
from Prodigy--I'm on AOL. Anyway the messages have come through in a
spotty fashion at best--a problem to me, obviously, and an absolute
headache for Kay to say the least. Her frustration in reaching her
students is amirable and understandable (it's happening to one other AOL
student also; but, as I understand it, not on the same lessons).

Is there any advice out there? I worked with the on-line techs for AOL and
that brought a few more of the back lessons through, but I'm still missing
some early ones and the current ones are still coming through at a rate of
about 50%. Meanwhile, I'm carefully being sure I mark nothing "read" just
to be certain I don't cause anything that shouldn't to go away; and my
list of postings to pile through all the time is getting weildly and
unmanageable!

Kay has graciously decided to snail-mail the whole set of lessons, but the
problem itself isn't solved by that action. I'm jealous of the other
postings I'm assuming also aren't coming through to my list--I'm missing
some wonderful words from the rest of you, I'm sure! :(

Dorothy Reid
DLR...@aol.com
(or) dr...@cusd.chico.k12.ca.us


Laurel @}-->---

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Nov 24, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/24/95
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On Nov 24, 1995 00:23:13 in article <Trouble with listings "coming

through"?>, 'dlr...@aol.com (DLReid)' wrote:


>Kay has graciously decided to snail-mail the whole set of lessons,

Dorothy, there may be another way. You say your list of postings is
getting unwieldly. Why not just create a directory and save all those
postings outside of AOL.. Then you can read at your leisure. Another
alternative to snail mail would be personal e-mail.. again, saving the mail
in your created directory.
Just my .02.
--

Laurel @}-->---
"Life is just a chair of bowlies."

WOOLYDREAM

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Nov 25, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/25/95
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You should test the acrylic paint colors first to make sure they are
waterproof.

Not all brands of acrylics are equal.
If you buy acrylics- buy professional quality not the student quality-this
actually goes for all art materials if you want better and lasting
results.

I use all acrylic paints for my needlepoint designs because they dry
faster than oil paints and and don't have a strong odor.

Good luck in your painting!

Lula

David Wright

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Nov 26, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/26/95
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wooly...@aol.com (WOOLYDREAM) wrote:

>You should test the acrylic paint colors first to make sure they are
>waterproof.

>Not all brands of acrylics are equal.
>If you buy acrylics- buy professional quality not the student quality-this
>actually goes for all art materials if you want better and lasting
>results.

Many thanks for your help, but when I checked my acrylic paints I
found there was no indication as to whether or not they were student
or professional quality. So I checked at my artshop and was told that
there was no difference as far as acrylics were concerned! So I am
puzzled, but maybe this is some difference between British and
American products. My paints are made by Winsor and Newton.
Liza Wright.
---------------------------
daib...@ealaghol.demon.co.uk


Lee Thompson-Herbert

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Nov 26, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/26/95
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In article <8174030...@ealaghol.demon.co.uk>,

Professional quality acrylics here in the US usually say "Artists' Acrylic
Color" on the label somewhere. The two big brands here are Liquitex and
Golden, though there are others. Grumbacher is one of the brands I use,
along with the Liquitex special media. Artists' paints are meant to be
used either alone or mixed with a large number of special effect media,
which can do all sorts of things. There are pearl, irridescent, texture
gels, modeling pastes, opaque medium, thinners, thickeners, marbling
medium... But the big thing is that artists' colors are colorfast, and
do not fade or darken over time. They also don't tend to turn brittle
and crumble the way cheap hobby paint sometimes do.

There's also a fabric paint medium for acrylics. It extends the working
time for the paint, giving the pigment more chance to react with the fibers.
It also gives a smoother texture, which will give you more even coverage
without skipping. Remember that _paintings_ done on canvas aren't done
on the bare fabric. The canvas is covered with gesso first. If you're
going to paint on bare fabric, the fabric paint medium is a better way
to do it. You can also buy professional-quality fabric paints. Speedball
and Jaquard are two companies here in the US that make good textile paints
and inks. I use both for block printing on fabric.

--
Lee M.Thompson-Herbert l...@crl.com
Chaos Monger
and
Jill-of-all-Trades Member, Knights of Xenu (1995) KD6WUR

WOOLYDREAM

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Nov 29, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/29/95
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I have found there are different grades of art materials in our shops- the
less expensive are usually for students.

We have quite a few brands of paint available- like
Liquitex-Grumbacher-Holbein, etc.

Better quality paints have better coverage and more pigment. If you are
painting a canvas for yourself it doesn't matter if you don't cover the
surface smoothly- but the ones we put out to shops have to be perfectly
painted--that's why I always look for the paints with the most pigment and
coverage.---Lula

WOOLYDREAM

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Nov 29, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/29/95
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Hi Lee-

You made a very valid point for using better quality paints--I paint a lot
of needlepoint and have noticed differences in the quality of paints used.
The colors are not as brilliant and clear in the cheaper lines of paint.

It really does make a difference in the quality one uses for their final
product.

Right now I use a vinyl type of acrylic- two brands- Lefranc & Bourgeois
and Cartoon Colours which are used in the animation industry--as well as
the other brands depending on the colors I want.

mas...@rapidnet.com

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Dec 10, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/10/95
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Perhaps they don't come through to ALL the news servers. I discovered the newsgroups at work and
have recently got my own Internet connection at home. If I compare nthe postings I get at home
with those at work, I find they are not all both pplaces, so perhaps lsitings are 'coming
through', but not to your server.

Pat Mason
mas...@rapidnet.com


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