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Linda D.

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Oct 19, 2001, 10:27:54 PM10/19/01
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Hi everyone,

Does anyone know of a crochet newsgroup? I thought there was
a rec.crafts.textiles.yarn group, but it doesn't show up on my list :(
I'm trying to find a free pattern for one of those crocheted tote
bags. My Mom has yarn galore that she would like to use up, so I
offered to look for a pattern for her. Can anyone help?

thanks, Linda :)
Vancouver Island, bc.ca :) (remove 'nospam' to reply)

Ericka Kammerer

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Oct 19, 2001, 10:58:10 PM10/19/01
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"Linda D." wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Does anyone know of a crochet newsgroup? I thought there was
> a rec.crafts.textiles.yarn group, but it doesn't show up on my list :(
> I'm trying to find a free pattern for one of those crocheted tote
> bags. My Mom has yarn galore that she would like to use up, so I
> offered to look for a pattern for her. Can anyone help?

I did a quick web search and turned up the following:

http://www.crochetmemories.com/archive/misc15.html
http://home.inreach.com/marthac/totes.html
http://www.lionbrand.com/cgi-bin/lionbrand/index.fcgi?page=http://www.lionbrand.com/patterns/ckc-tote.html
http://www.lionbrand.com/cgi-bin/lionbrand/index.fcgi?page=http://www.lionbrand.com/patterns/ckct-hoboBag.html
http://www.io.com/~amh/crochet/bag.html
http://maxpages.com/bagcrazy/LINKS
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Cottage/3606/freebaglinks.html
http://www.straw.com/cpy/montbag.htm
http://www.yarnies.com/patterns/crocheted_bags.htm

There are lots more out there, but this should at least get you started.

Hope this helps,
Ericka

Seanette Blaylock

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Oct 19, 2001, 11:25:32 PM10/19/01
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deu...@nospamhome.com (Linda D.) had some very interesting things to
say about OT: Anyone know of???:

> Does anyone know of a crochet newsgroup? I thought there was
>a rec.crafts.textiles.yarn group, but it doesn't show up on my list :(

Talk to your ISP or news server about getting it. It *does* exist, and
there are even a couple of threads over there that aren't
all-Mirjam-all-the-time currently. :-)
--
Seanette Blaylock
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XNCrKT/A/D/-/SF/-/-/b++/R-/S-/K+/-/P/G/W+/Patrick Stewart, James Earl Jones/Stephen King, Scott
Adams, Erma Bombeck, Jeff Foxworthy/CHOCOLATE! :-)

Mirjam Bruck-Cohen

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Oct 20, 2001, 1:12:45 AM10/20/01
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Seanette !!!!
I have privately emailed to you , my Cv as it appeared in the catalog
of my Solo in the Museum of Art Ein Harod , So that you will be able
to avoid Any exhibition , publication or maybbe country where any of
my works is shown or written about ,
A kind service to you ...
>there are even a couple of threads over there that aren't
>all-Mirjam-all-the-time currently. :-)
>--
>Seanette Blaylock
mirjam

Skyhooks

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Oct 20, 2001, 5:02:05 AM10/20/01
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Hello Hello!!!

RCTY does exist, and it's very popular (I lurk there - oh gosh - I just
made a confession!)! You'll have to ask your ISP/news-server to
subscribe to it (or whatever it's called what they do to get it!).
Actually, I'm surprised that if you get RCTN you don't RCTY!!! They're
quite similar and have many folk in common!

I hope you get to subscribe to RCTY soon as you wish! Good luck!!

Helen (Skyhooks)
hmardis at uiuc dot edu

rest of usual sig left out due to tiredness and laziness

Suzanne

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Oct 20, 2001, 7:54:27 AM10/20/01
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Mirjam,
I think that after so long of just reading posts that I have to
respond here. I do believe that Seanette was joking around. Hence
the 'smiley' face at the end of the sentence! There was nothing to
get all in a huff about.

Going back to my lurker stage
Suzanne


mir...@actcom.co.il (Mirjam Bruck-Cohen) wrote in message news:<3bd106f8...@news.att.net.il>...

Linda D.

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Oct 20, 2001, 11:25:50 AM10/20/01
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On Sat, 20 Oct 2001 02:58:10 GMT, Ericka Kammerer <eek...@home.com>
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Thank you SO much Ericka... How the heck do you do that??? I
messed around searching for an hour or so and didn't come up with the
links you did! I'm impressed!!! And it appears I need some lessons
in searching on the internet :)

take care, Linda :)

Mirjam Bruck-Cohen

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Oct 20, 2001, 1:34:52 PM10/20/01
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Suzanne and Tara ! thank you for trying to make it sound Nicer , It is
not.I feel and think it was Rude and Uncalled for ,
mirjam

Treva MacLean

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Oct 20, 2001, 2:35:41 PM10/20/01
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There is a group at
rec.crafts.textiles.yarn

Ericka Kammerer

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Oct 20, 2001, 3:22:19 PM10/20/01
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"Linda D." wrote:

> Thank you SO much Ericka... How the heck do you do that??? I
> messed around searching for an hour or so and didn't come up with the
> links you did! I'm impressed!!! And it appears I need some lessons
> in searching on the internet :)

You know, I just seem to have good luck with searching (though I'm
sure having an IT background doesn't hurt ;-) I just went to google.com
and searched on crochet tote bag pattern! I do seem to have the best
luck with google for general stuff.

Take care,
Ericka

Suzanne

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Oct 20, 2001, 7:12:24 PM10/20/01
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Mirjam,
I know where you are coming from about feeling that it was rude and
uncalled for. I just got into a big fight with my father in law (who
is portuguese) because I took my daughter upstairs to get her away
from her cousin who was throwing a temper tantrum. My father in law
took it as me trying to offend him. He didn't stop to ask me if it
was intended that way, he just assumed. And because of the language
barrier (he speaks english, but doesn't really understand the little
nuances of the language), he couldn't understand my explanation and
that made me very upset. That is the case here. Maybe if you asked
Seanette what she meant by it, instead of automatically assuming that
everyone is out to get you, then maybe you wouldn't be on the
defensive all the time. We took it to mean joking around because of
the smiley face. Sometimes when we write things on the internet,
other people cannot see or hear the tone in our "voice", they get the
wrong impression. So that is why some people, when they write things
they aren't sure how people will take them, will put a smiley face to
show that they didn't mean it in a bad way. Maybe if you asked
Seanette then she will tell you what she really meant.

Suzanne

mir...@actcom.co.il (Mirjam Bruck-Cohen) wrote in message news:<3bd1b5b...@news.att.net.il>...

Hexe

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Oct 21, 2001, 11:45:03 AM10/21/01
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On Sat, 20 Oct 2001 02:27:54 GMT, deu...@nospamhome.com (Linda D.)
wrote:

i subscribed to a yarn newsgroup but (at that time) found little to do
with actual crocheting. it seemed to be mostly knitters, weavers, etc.
i did subscribe to a very good crochet mailing list but have since
forgotten the name. trying searching +crochet +"mailing list"; i think
the list was run by Crochet Partners, you could try searching for that.

--
Hexe
Holm-Seppensen

: Thought for the journey:
If you can't hear me, it's because I'm in parentheses. - Steven Wright

Hexe

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Oct 21, 2001, 11:45:02 AM10/21/01
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On Sat, 20 Oct 2001 19:22:19 GMT, Ericka Kammerer <eek...@home.com>
wrote:


> You know, I just seem to have good luck with searching (though I'm
>sure having an IT background doesn't hurt ;-) I just went to google.com
>and searched on crochet tote bag pattern! I do seem to have the best
>luck with google for general stuff.
>
>Take care,
>Ericka

i used to use Excite's search engine and sometimes Altavista but lately
all i get is 11,586 responses of crap. most have no reference to the
words i used for searching. what are people sticking in their
keywords?!

i have since given up on them and use google exclusively because their
results seem to be more in line for the words i use.

Marilyn Leavitt-Imblum

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Oct 21, 2001, 4:01:41 PM10/21/01
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Mirjam,

Thank goodness you posted!
It's been days and I was worried!

When I see the news, I always imagine it is right infront of your home!
Please send me your snail mail? I have a bunch of things you might like!
I have collect different yarns for years and some of them are quite
unique.

Are your creations woven or sewn? Do you use a lot of different fibers?
Do you dye them yourself? How do you create? Are your works large? I
imagine them to be large....hanging and visible from all sides. Am I
close?

Marilyn


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Heather Knowles

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Oct 21, 2001, 5:06:33 PM10/21/01
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Stretching, yawning, and safely parking her needle, Hexe
<he...@citde.net> writes

>i subscribed to a yarn newsgroup but (at that time) found little to do
>with actual crocheting. it seemed to be mostly knitters, weavers, etc.
>i did subscribe to a very good crochet mailing list but have since
>forgotten the name. trying searching +crochet +"mailing list"; i think
>the list was run by Crochet Partners, you could try searching for that.

It has its own site where you sign up for it:

http://crochetpartners.org/members/membership.html

There are also numerous good mailing lists for crochet at Yahoo! Groups:

http://groups.yahoo.com/

--
luv Heather Mary xxxxxxxxxxxxxx hea...@barwickgreen.fsnet.co.uk

WIP: 'La Cascade' needlepoint; metallic crochet bow tie; Janlynn 'Colours of
Christmas' ornaments; variegated crochet afghan

Mirjam Bruck-Cohen

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Oct 22, 2001, 12:25:39 AM10/22/01
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Marilyn
Thank you for your interest .
I have been busy with last stages of my exhibtion`s catalog , so that
they will be ready for the big Feast , a sort of belated opening , 1/3
way of the dispaly time .
And on Saturday we had the Big day. which included an
Baroque Concert, and a discussion about :" is Art possible in a
period of teror".
it is a pity some people om this ng were not there they might have
enriched their knowledge or understanding.

>Please send me your snail mail? I have a bunch of things you might like!
Thank you , for your offer but No thank you ! I do prefer to buy every
thing here, times are bad and if i will import anything it will harm
local makers, and shop keepers.
>Are your creations woven or sewn? Do you use a lot of different fibers?
>Do you dye them yourself? How do you create? Are your works large? I
>imagine them to be large....hanging and visible from all sides. Am I
>close?
I think i will quote from the Text of Galia Bar Or , Director and
curator of Museum of Art, Ein Harod .....rom her text
A Patched Map of Identity
Mirjam Bruck-Cohen Totally identifies with the textile medium....
.....The range of possibilities offered by the textile, loaded with
the bodily and neural sensitivity , directed her art work from the
position of intimacy towards a discussion of private and political
identities.
The textile as a perishable organic material, reacting to changes of
light and weather carried for her a human aspect, fragile but
surprisingly survivable. Mirjam lives the day to ady dimension of the
material, it`s being nera the body and usable, simple and accessible ,
crossing historical time, geographical space, and having its roots in
the dawn of civilization. ......
......In the most concrete sense, textile suited the
significantmemories Mirjam had, focusing on the Jewish Yellow Badge,
the rags worn by refuggees, and fabrics carrying testimonies of
pre-rift identities, such as a family napkin that survived, its` edges
embroidered with the intials of her mother`s maiden-name.The titles of
the works exhibited in the previous exhibition broadcast a laden
message :"Information Coverage", "A Badge for Them", "There is /There
is not", "Bad Dream", "VIrtual Defenses ", " Verbal Abuse" ,"Unbody",
"Identity Photo", " Feminage".
The current exhibition "Mapressions Loci", is Mirjam Bruck-Cohen`s
second solo exhibition, and it opens alongside four additional
exhibitions of women artists, as a cluster of exhibitions gathered by
the Ein Harod Museum of Art under the title "Liminal" { Autumn 2001}.
The 5 exhibitions adress architectual maps, the home, elusive
geographical and mental boundaries of vision, identity and memory.
In the exhibition in Ein Harod Mirjam exhibits works from materials
such as construction ropes, various fabrics, embroidery threads, nylon
and lace. The point of departure for her art works are architectual
plans of neighbourhoods, villages and towns [ mostly Arab settlements]
from which she created Mapressions in various techniques such as
patchwork, weaving, embroidery, knitting, needlework, crochet, etc...
....Through manual , laborious work, emplioying various materials and
techniques, Mirjam evolved " Mapressions" from the computerized
aechitectural plans of the architect Dov Chernobroda . In the process
of the art, the plans lost their utopian, organizing aspect, and were
animated in a multi-layered body, in paradoxes, and subjectivity.
.......Catalog "Mapressions Loci", Museum of Art Ein Harod , 2001,
Curator Haim Maor.
From the Curator`s text
Holes of Land In the Holy Land: Urban Map Legends into Legends of Maps
........her concious use of "woman`s art " and use of hybrid
techniques that `intentionally break` the `correct` and the `pure` art
tradition` -all of these are components in a cognitive, alternative,
subversive , allegedly not `patriotic` patchwork of one who plays for
the jackpot by placing the map of the identity on the table and
says;This is who I am !! .....
.....
I hope Marilyn this answered some of your questions ,
mirjam

Mirjam Bruck-Cohen

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Oct 22, 2001, 3:10:20 PM10/22/01
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Suzanne I waited for somebody to answer the letter and am quite sad to
have to do it myself ,
I hope you read my long letter to Marilyn, and noticed some of it ,
>I know where you are coming from about feeling that it was rude and
>uncalled for.
may I point out to you That You DO NOT KNOW Where I am coming from ,
You never had my life experiences, and do not have any clue what i
feel, how i feel etc. And i would notassume to know where , what and
which place you come from , but one thing comes clear from your letter
, You assume that anyone who has a different background than yours
Authomaticly Understands less than you , is lesscapeable than you to
understand what is going on,what is said, or even worse what is really
meant by actions, and words , who made you a mind reader ?? and who
made you judge at the amount of what other people understand and even
if they According to you , understand Your `Always Right and just
actions` Wrong , who are you to Measure their hurt and pain or
anyother feeling they feel .
> he just assumed.
it is You Who just assumes that Seanette had no Bad or fowl intention
!!!By all means this sounded/read Bad !!!!but just in case you
arrogantly tell me that i do not understand English and its nuances i
sent it to a list i moderate , to several All English speaking people
, everyone of them was horrified , from the way it was written to the
cultural implications !!!
no smily symbol sweetens this remark !!!

> That is the case here. Maybe if you asked
>Seanette what she meant by it,
How Do you know this is the case here , and lets` say for the sake of
argument that infact i misunderstood her / Why hasn`t she herself come
out with an explanation ? why do you do it in her name ???
May i assume that she Knows she has passed a barrier ??
>everyone is out to get you, then maybe you wouldn't be on the
>defensive all the time.
You would be surprised , But i never think anybody is out to get me
Why would ithink that! I knoe that she was very rude and offensive ,
and she ows me an explaination ...
> Sometimes when we write things on the internet,
>other people cannot see or hear the tone in our "voice", they get the
>wrong impression.
Some words are so offensive that no smile will erase it or hide the
bad meaning .
>they aren't sure how people will take them, will put a smiley face to
>show that they didn't mean it in a bad way. Maybe if you asked
>Seanette then she will tell you what she really meant.
The Proof is On her not on me !!!!
mirjam

Seanette Blaylock

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Oct 22, 2001, 8:16:55 PM10/22/01
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Tara D <Mand...@echo-on.net> had some very interesting things to say
about Re: OT: Anyone know of???:

>Ditto. It was (possibly unfortunate) just a way of saying "Mirjam has
>lot to say in that newsgroup".

And it's VERY hard to get a reply to anything that isn't about her.
After her behavior in this newsgroup, she has ZERO room to complain
about anyone else's remarks.

Seanette Blaylock

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Oct 22, 2001, 8:17:54 PM10/22/01
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Heather Knowles <hkno...@barwickgreen.fsnet.co.uk> had some very
interesting things to say about OT: Anyone know of???:

>There are also numerous good mailing lists for crochet at Yahoo! Groups:
>http://groups.yahoo.com/

Or at least one at SmartGroups [http://www.smartgroups.com] that I'm
on. :-)

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