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anne

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Feb 11, 2007, 9:41:09 AM2/11/07
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I'm one of those people who embody the 'out of sight, out of mind'
adage/cliche. IOW, if something isn't visible, I don't remember I've got it.

How do you store your patterns, kits, charts, magazines, books?

Are they organized by technique or subject or ... ?

What about your fabric? By color, type, use, or ???

I'm particularly interested to see what you do with large pieces, especially if
you've painstakingly ironed out the folds and wrinkles prior to use.

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roseannl

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Feb 11, 2007, 11:43:06 AM2/11/07
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On Feb 11, 9:41 am, anne <frug...@comcast.net> wrote:


> I'm one of those people who embody the 'out of sight, out of mind'

Frustrating, isn't it? Especially when we can't imagine parting with
anything!

> How do you store your patterns, kits, charts, magazines, books?
> Are they organized by technique or subject or ... ?

I have some of those cardboard magazine holders for my magazines. I
put the name of the magazine on the outer edge of the box & just keep
them in order. Books go into slotted book holder - by subject.
Charts are in a file cabinet. Alphabetical by Designer. Kitted
projects are on the bookshelf in the plastic file holders with the
little wrapp-y strings on the front. Also have some that are in zip
lock baggies.


> What about your fabric? By color, type, use, or ???

Don't use Aida, but my fabrics are in Sterilite drawer systems. I use
the 8 drawer towers.

The top shallow drawers are used for DMC & Anchor floss on bobbins.
They're seated w/ the number up, so I can see at a glance what I've
got/need.

The lower larger drawers are for fabrics. Evenweaves are separate
from linens. Keep little ornie sized fabs in 1 drawer, then migrate
to med & large sized pieces. Black & red fabrics are wrapped in
tissue paper. I also have some of the BIG Sterilite drawers for
yardage fabrics & fabrics I use for backing of ornies, etc.

There are also smaller drawer units to hold scissors, needles, cording
for ornies, speciality fibers, lights, stuff, stash, etc!!!

> I'm particularly interested to see what you do with large pieces, especially if
> you've painstakingly ironed out the folds and wrinkles prior to use.

If I don't have any foam core board, I'll roll them & put them into a
tube temporarily. But that rarely happens as I mount my own
projects. Once mounted, I'm more inclined to get them framed.

The really main thing that I use harkens back to the patterns,
magazines, kits, WIPs, etc. I keep an Excell Spreadsheet of
EVERYTHING! If I get a new magazine, it goes into the spreadsheet w/
the name, date, & a few of the patterns that I'm interested in.
Patterns are entered by name, designer, subject, size, type, etc. All
WIPs & UFOs are entered w/ the floss being used. It was a big job to
create. I keep it all on a jump drive & I print it out to binder
pages a few times a year - especially if I'm going shopping! This has
prevented me from buying patterns I already have - but forgot about,
flossies that I have 10 of - all in different WIPS! Plus, friends
have fun looking thru it, then trying to find the item in my shelves &
files drawers!

Hugs n' Stitches - RoseAnn
http://roseannl.multiply.com

deniseb

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Feb 11, 2007, 11:51:04 AM2/11/07
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I have a cabinet made by my husband that would be called a large map
cabinet. It has 12 drawers ranging in depth of 3" to 5". I have
EVERYTHING in it!!!

My patterns are in 3 ring binders with sheet protectors. They are
arranged by designer. I have noted on them if I have bought the fabric
or any specialty items for the pattern.

In another drawer is the fabric. Each piece has a paper stapled to it
to tell me what pattern it belongs to. If it is extra I have it
separated by count, color, and type. As for large pieces of fabric --
ironed and rolled.

My floss is in 3 drawers - everything on bobbins is in one drawer
while in 2 others is the loose skeins (DMC) arranged by number. All
other fibers are on metal rings. The spooled metalic flosses have
their own spot.

The three deepest drawers have finished framed items. There is a
drawer for finished unframed items.

I could go on and on. I am an organization nut and it shows in my
stitching.

Hope this helps --- Denise B


MelissaD

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Feb 11, 2007, 2:22:08 PM2/11/07
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"deniseb" <bbearl...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I currently keep everything in my bedroom - because my family room is being
remodeled and neither of my teenagers will let me have their room for a
sewing/craft room!

I have a 2 drawer file cabinet where I keep all my patterns and charts - by
subject (i.e. Autumn/Halloween, Winter/Christmas, samplers, Hearts, etc.) I
have all my books in a bookcase with doors - not arranged in any specific
order.

I did have fun picking out a rather large unfinished wood armoire/cupboard
at Ikea which has adjustable shelves on both the right and left hand sides.
I have all my supplies in various clear storage boxes stacked on all the
shelves by type of supply.
DMC floss (in numerical order) and overdyeds, metallics, silks are all in
separate containers and on one shelf. I've printed off some of the database
sheets that are online and checked off which fibers I have because I find
myself buying duplicates too often otherwise.

Fabrics (labeled at minimum with fabric count) and tools and interfacing,
batting and misc. stuff are on another shelf and below that I have stretcher
bars and hoops and frames together. Most of my finished projects are on
another shelf - I rotate a lot based on seasons or holidays - I don't look
at the same thing in my house all the time that way.

I also have a large section of to-do projects - either kitted up or in
progress of and I keep the current projects I 'm working on in those large
zippered mesh pouches. I have a shelf with containers of beads and charms
and embellishments and ribbons and such as I've become pretty good at
finishing small pieces such as ornaments, scissor fobs, etc.

Last shelf is where I stash works in progress, ideas or designs I'm working
on and paperwork for my EGA chapter (I'm now doing GCCs and Workshops this
year).

I must confess that I adore my cabinet - it's plain and simple and I can
open both doors and just admire my stash in all its neat organized glory.
Best part is I know where everything is. If I need scissors or fabric or
beads I can just pull the box I need out of the cupboard - no digging
through trunks or emptying something to get to the bottom - bliss :) My
kids tease me that I'm too anal retentive and I am an organization nut just
like Denise said she is (yes, I own a labeling machine too) ... but I find
that I spend more time stitching or creating than looking for things that
way.

Anyway - sorry to ramble on so long - hope you get some ideas from this.
MelissaD


Karen C - California

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Feb 11, 2007, 3:19:38 PM2/11/07
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Stuff that's kitted up is in file boxes. There's a box of stuff
intended for Mom, a box that's intended for my cousin's family. The
stuff that doesn't really have a designee (or is for me) is in boxes by
Small, Small-Medium, Medium, Medium-Large, and Large. In my system,
Medium is generically 5x7 to 8x10.

Pamphlet-type charts are in magazine files. I figured out what topics I
had a lot of (cats, flowers, alphabets) and gave those their own file.

Magazines are on bookshelves, all of one title together.

Fabric -- I *want* to get it in my grandmother's double dresser, but
haven't been able to get anyone to bring it up from the basement (the
movers finally arrived 3 days before the housewarming party, so anything
that I thought we could move ourselves was put in the basement out of
the way for the party). For now, it's in large plastic drawers from the
office supply store, where a 15x18 piece will lay more or less flat,
sorted by color.

Floss is in a "parts cabinet" from the hardware store.


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WIP: housewarming gifts, July birthstone, Flowers of
Hawaii (Jeanette Crews) for ME!!!
Retrieved from UFO pile: Marbek's Snow Angel
LTR: Fireman's Prayer (#2), Amid Amish Life, Angel of Autumn,
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Karen C - California

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Feb 11, 2007, 3:23:07 PM2/11/07
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MelissaD wrote:
>
> I currently keep everything in my bedroom - because my family room is being
> remodeled and neither of my teenagers will let me have their room for a
> sewing/craft room!


I think you need to remind them who pays the mortgage. :)

We've had that discussion at 1 AM the last few nights. I'll wake up to
Kitty hissing and Emilie protesting "Mom says I can sleep on the bed".
Kitty is not happy that Mom wakes up and says that Emilie is right, and
even less happy that Mom emphasizes the point by putting Em under the
covers and cooing at her.

Cheryl Isaak

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Feb 12, 2007, 6:55:41 AM2/12/07
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On 2/11/07 9:41 AM, in article
MPG.2038f503b...@newsgroups.comcast.net, "anne"
<fru...@comcast.net> wrote:

> I'm one of those people who embody the 'out of sight, out of mind'
> adage/cliche. IOW, if something isn't visible, I don't remember I've got it.

Do a spread sheet of all your stuff. Or maybe (like for me) several of them


>
> How do you store your patterns, kits, charts, magazines, books?
>
> Are they organized by technique or subject or ... ?

Charts, kits are in various types of sleeves and organized by designer in
notebooks. One spreadsheet covers all of those. I try to make notes about
theme if not apparent by the title.
Books - on the shelf above the note books. I have a spread sheet of these as
well. Reminds me, I need to update that with presents received....

>
> What about your fabric? By color, type, use, or ???

Two, fairly neat drawers, organized by type, loosely that is. One with
"block weaves" (Aida, Tula....) and one with "linen types"
>
Now, my dear, you forgot about organizing beads, embellishments and
flosses....

C

Cheryl Isaak

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Feb 12, 2007, 6:56:34 AM2/12/07
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On 2/11/07 2:22 PM, in article 5398n2F...@mid.individual.net,
"MelissaD" <MDun...@frontiernet.net> wrote:

Would you send me a picture? I am so jealous, I'd love one place instead of
several for my stuff!
C

elizabe...@gmail.com

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Feb 12, 2007, 10:36:55 AM2/12/07
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On Feb 11, 9:41 am, anne <frug...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I'm one of those people who embody the 'out of sight, out of mind'

>


> What about your fabric? By color, type, use, or ???


color then count.

Gill Murray

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Feb 12, 2007, 11:12:00 AM2/12/07
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Just to be different, I do mine by count, then color!

Gillian

Cheryl Isaak

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Feb 12, 2007, 11:18:37 AM2/12/07
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On 2/12/07 11:12 AM, in article kl0Ah.10301$Yn4.7942@trnddc03, "Gill Murray"
<gillm...@nowhere.net> wrote:

Blowing raspberries at you dear!

C

deniseb

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Feb 12, 2007, 11:34:19 AM2/12/07
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Cheryl -

http://www.homedecorators.com/detail.php?parentid=3489300&aid=pt

I loved this chest and my husband said he could to better. So, we used
this as the model for mine.

It is blissful to pull out my binder, leaf through it and find what I
want and go to one place and start opening drawers. No running all
over the house like before.

Denise


Gill Murray

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Feb 12, 2007, 11:36:04 AM2/12/07
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I only like fresh raspberries, not frozen ones!

G

Cheryl Isaak

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Feb 12, 2007, 1:35:13 PM2/12/07
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On 2/12/07 11:36 AM, in article UH0Ah.10303$Yn4.286@trnddc03, "Gill Murray"
<gillm...@nowhere.net> wrote:

Trust me, definitely frozen today!

Cheryl Isaak

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On 2/12/07 11:34 AM, in article
1171298059.1...@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com, "deniseb"
<bbearl...@yahoo.com> wrote:


I don't know - I think I want to see pictures of yours! it is a great
looking piece though!
Cheryl

MelissaD

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Feb 12, 2007, 6:24:54 PM2/12/07
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"Cheryl Isaak" <chery...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Well my Ikea cabinet isn't a lovely custom one (lucky Denise!) but if you're
curious there's a photo of it here:
http://new.photos.yahoo.com/meldunajski/albums
Just look in the Needlework album.

MelissaD


anne

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Feb 12, 2007, 6:35:38 PM2/12/07
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Since starting this thread, I've done some major rearranging!!!

Unlike many of you, I don't have an extensive collection of charts or graphs.
Instead, I *had* looseleaf notebooks full of pictures that might serve as
inspiration for a project or printouts of online freebies. Each notebook was
devoted to one or two topics such as blackwork, ladies/women, kids, counted
stitching (hardanger, xs), needlepoint, florals, critters, humorous, etc. If I
couldn't punch holes, I put the ideas or completed chart or kit designs in
plastic sleeves. I had just about run out of notebooks and couldn't find cheap
large ones. Since I'm no longer a computer geekess who needs a collection of
tips and tricks or manuals for lots and lots of hardware and software or
newsletter editor for my EGA chapter who needs fillers and other stuff, I was
able to free up space in a small filing cabinet. The hanging folders are still
organized by topic.

My small collection of books are arranged by topic and further subdivided by
author. Magazines and somewhat bulky leaflets (think Leisure Arts or Dover
pubs) are in magazine boxes.

I've got 4 multi-drawer plastic carts. Cotton floss(es?) is(are) in floss a way
bags on large rings. They're grouped in drawers according to my abbreviated
version of DMC's color families. Other fibers like silk, ribbons, or metallics
are in their own drawers. I've even got a drawer for snippets/orts ;-)
Unsorted, cheap buttons are in plastic shoe boxes as is my small collection of
my sister's leftover thick perle cotton. Beads that are in tubes also live in
one of the cabinets. Other beads are in several plastic boxes that have
dividers.

On top of the cabinets are several organizer thingies that have multiple little
pullout drawers. They're home to needles, threaders, largish beads, plastic
flower beads and more butterfly, beach, leaf buttons than I'll ever use. FYI,
they're sometimes quite a bit cheaper in stores like Home Depot than they are
in craft stores even on sale or with a coupon.

A wider cart holds my punch needle supplies, hoops, stretcher bars, q snaps,
and other stuff. A very large basket that's about the size of the bottom of a
beer keg holds most of my crewel wool which has been divided by color into
baggies.

A lot of fabric that might be used for embroidery is in one drawer. Heirloom
and vintage dish towels, tablecloths and napkins that came from family closets
and drawers that might be used someday in a stitching project are in another
drawer. Some linen napkins have already been washed and ironed and are pinned
to hangers. They're just waiting to be used ;-) In the 2 years since I've
purchased my sewing machine, it's been a constant battle to keep 'sewing'
fabric from taking over my craft/sewing room <sigh>

There is no way in heck I'd create a spreadsheet or database to inventory my
stash; I'd rather spend the time stitching ;-)

Have I forgotten anything?

Gill Murray

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Feb 12, 2007, 6:45:13 PM2/12/07
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Denise

Is that a cabinet with drawers, shelves or what?? When we lived in
Maryland Ikea was a new entity. I have seen them since in our travels,
and always need an eye-out for practical storage.

Gillian

In Florida, hoping to sell house and move north.

Bruce Fletcher

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Feb 12, 2007, 6:54:49 PM2/12/07
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As a mere mortal - and a colour-blind male at that - why not have a
simple folder with three lists of your stache each sorted in one
particular way, by colour, by type and then by use?
Or am I missing something (my long-suffering and incredibly patient wife
often makes that remark...)
--
Bruce Fletcher
Stronsay, Orkney
<www.stronsay.co.uk/claremont>

The Lady Gardener

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Feb 12, 2007, 8:50:28 PM2/12/07
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"MelissaD" <MDun...@frontiernet.net> wrote in message

Well my Ikea cabinet isn't a lovely custom one (lucky Denise!) but if you're
curious there's a photo of it here:
http://new.photos.yahoo.com/meldunajski/albums
Just look in the Needlework album.

MelissaD

Hello Melissa - your cupboard looks so orderly it is inspiring, even more
inspiring is your collection of fobs........I love these little treasures,
and I am particularly intrigued by the 'bunch of grapes' - can you advise
details of the pattern for this - so I can add it to my lust list.

Cheers

Joanne

ellice

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Feb 12, 2007, 9:27:26 PM2/12/07
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That's great. What a good idea. Right now, I'm in the process of
converting over the "bachelor" furniture - which is a 6 drawer dresser (the
low wide, kind) and a hutch/lower cabinet with a deep bookcase on top. This
is going to be my sewing/needlework set. I can sort my needlework fabrics
into a drawer, as well as good sewing (clothing) stuff. My quilt stash is
folded nicely (big pieces) and takes shelves, along with plastic bins for
the folded fat quarters - I can just pull them and look. I also have a high
rolling plastic 6 drawer cart with sewing stuff in it. Upstairs in the
office/studio - I'm in the midst of conversting a small rolling cart with a
deep drawer, and some not as deep for handy stash. I have 2, and the deep
drawers are hanging files - so one has charts, etc - the other has
references for designing. I'm doing a slatboard wall in the back of the
closet and will be hanging (rings) tons of thread stash, etc. Then the
bottom half holds one file cart. And a huge bunch of rolls of canvas goes
wherever. But, I really, really like the cart.

I had been using a military chest - tall thin chest of drawers - for stash
in the old house. But, now have moved stuff around. For now - all the
"kitted" and ready to go stuff is packaged - chart, with fabric - and some
with threads/beads/ and all in very large Nordie's bag. The rest of stuff -
well charts just filed in another bin. And there are some huge cartons not
yet unpacked.

I tend not to buy a lot of stitching fabric just as is - so most of mine is
with the piece it's meant for. But, the rest is by weave, and color. Don't
have any aida, etc. Just linens - plain and hand dyes. Do have lots of
quilter stash - and that is what is sorted by color grouping. Either big
cuts, or the fat quarters. And knitting stash is also in large plastic
tubs.

ellice

Olwyn Mary

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Feb 12, 2007, 9:28:51 PM2/12/07
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You guys all have *way* *too much stuff*.

All my embroidery supplies, including hoops and frames for both surface
and canvas work, plus knitting yarns and crochet cotton, fit in one
cedar chest. I don't have to have a spreadsheet, I just open the lid or
the drawer and there it is.

BTW, my sewing fabrics fit in one four-drawer dresser, and I have a
bookshelf with plastic crates full of trims, notions etc. plus various
sewing tools.

Olwyn Mary in New Orleans.

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Cheryl Isaak

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Feb 13, 2007, 6:43:46 AM2/13/07
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On 2/12/07 6:24 PM, in article 53cbaeF...@mid.individual.net,
"MelissaD" <MDun...@frontiernet.net> wrote:

>
(snip)>>>

>> Would you send me a picture? I am so jealous, I'd love one place instead
>> of
>> several for my stuff!
>> C
>>
>
> Well my Ikea cabinet isn't a lovely custom one (lucky Denise!) but if you're
> curious there's a photo of it here:
> http://new.photos.yahoo.com/meldunajski/albums
> Just look in the Needlework album.
>
> MelissaD
>
>

I like that. I like the clean lines of Ikea!
C

Cheryl Isaak

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Feb 13, 2007, 7:04:26 AM2/13/07
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On 2/12/07 9:28 PM, in article 45d115c7$0$6303$8826...@free.teranews.com,
"Olwyn Mary" <Olwy...@aol.com> wrote:

> You guys all have *way* *too much stuff*.

Freely admitted. I'm an addict, it could be worse. Want a picture of DH's
trains?


>
> All my embroidery supplies, including hoops and frames for both surface
> and canvas work, plus knitting yarns and crochet cotton, fit in one
> cedar chest. I don't have to have a spreadsheet, I just open the lid or
> the drawer and there it is.

How big a cedar chest? A foot locker, one of those massive blanket chests?
(wink, wink, nudge, nudge)


>
> BTW, my sewing fabrics fit in one four-drawer dresser, and I have a
> bookshelf with plastic crates full of trims, notions etc. plus various
> sewing tools.
>
> Olwyn Mary in New Orleans.

Cheryl

Cheryl Isaak

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Feb 13, 2007, 7:32:17 AM2/13/07
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On 2/12/07 6:54 PM, in article mfedndA5YbO2Y03Y...@bt.com,
"Bruce Fletcher" <ricardi...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> elizabe...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Feb 11, 9:41 am, anne <frug...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> I'm one of those people who embody the 'out of sight, out of mind'
>>> What about your fabric? By color, type, use, or ???
>> color then count.
>
> As a mere mortal - and a colour-blind male at that - why not have a
> simple folder with three lists of your stache each sorted in one
> particular way, by colour, by type and then by use?
> Or am I missing something (my long-suffering and incredibly patient wife
> often makes that remark...)

Gee, Bruce, you think! LOL
I have things "organized" on the computer, but less organized in the flesh,
where it is in several different places around the house. Truly organized
would be to have everything in one place

Donna

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Feb 13, 2007, 8:13:20 AM2/13/07
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> "Olwyn Mary" <Olwynm...@aol.com> wrote:
> > You guys all have *way* *too much stuff*.
>
> Freely admitted. I'm an addict, it could be worse. Want a picture of DH's
> trains?

>
> Cheryl

Ah. I'm in the way too much stuff club, too. I need to get over my
paper addiction. And pen addiction. But not the fiber and fabric
addictions. Those I enjoy way too much.

so, Cheryl, can your DH recommend a good store in NH for train stuff?
The one my DH used to shop at in Northwood went out of business
several years ago.

Donna in Virginia

Karen C - California

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Feb 13, 2007, 8:14:15 AM2/13/07
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Cheryl Isaak wrote:

> On 2/12/07 9:28 PM, in article 45d115c7$0$6303$8826...@free.teranews.com,
> "Olwyn Mary" <Olwy...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>>You guys all have *way* *too much stuff*.
>
>
> Freely admitted. I'm an addict, it could be worse. Want a picture of DH's
> trains?
>


Or a picture of the ex's collection of books?

I'll admit, I have quite a collection myself, but a lot of mine cost a
quarter at the library book sale, and as I read them, they go back for
re-sale. Most of his are specialized reference books for which he paid
full price.

He carted in so many boxes marked "books" that the elderly lady across
the hall from us thought we were Jehovah Witnesses.

Bruce Fletcher

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Cheryl Isaak wrote:
> On 2/12/07 9:28 PM, in article 45d115c7$0$6303$8826...@free.teranews.com,
> "Olwyn Mary" <Olwy...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> You guys all have *way* *too much stuff*.
>
> Freely admitted. I'm an addict, it could be worse. Want a picture of DH's
> trains?

Trains? Now you're talking!
But to get back to needlework, a friend of ours is a great Terry
Pratchett "DiscWorld" fan and she keeps her stache in a large,
compartmented wooden box which has been nicknamed "Luggage"

Alison

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Feb 13, 2007, 9:02:19 AM2/13/07
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Donna - I don't know if I should tell you but there's a great online
pen store (Swisher Pens) that just opened a Virginia shop.

Alison

Brenda Lewis

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Feb 13, 2007, 9:03:16 AM2/13/07
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Bruce Fletcher wrote:
> But to get back to needlework, a friend of ours is a great Terry
> Pratchett "DiscWorld" fan and she keeps her stache in a large,
> compartmented wooden box which has been nicknamed "Luggage"

Ooh! (Not to be confused with Ook!) Is it sentient? Does it walk?
Of course I'd much rather have an Enchanted Pack of Holding for my stash
to make the lot easily portable.

--
Brenda
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Cheryl Isaak

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Feb 13, 2007, 9:30:35 AM2/13/07
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On 2/13/07 8:13 AM, in article
1171372400.2...@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com, "Donna"
<needl...@gmail.com> wrote:

Trains on Tracks on 101A (Amherst NH) is pretty good. Mountain Trains in
Manchester has changed hands. Hartmann is worth the hike
http://www.hartmannrr.com/. The place in Northwoods is now in Hampton or
North Hampton. I can check with DH for more.

Cheryl

ellice

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Feb 13, 2007, 10:44:03 AM2/13/07
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Ah, we live in the DC area - there are lots of great pen shops around. For
real. And there is always Fahrney's in DC - quite famous and full of stuff.
http://www.fahrneyspens.com/index.aspx

Swisher's is way down in Virginia Beach - a good 4-5 hour drive - too much
for even us on a day trip.... But, if going to Williamsburg, only a couple
of hours further.


Ellice

deniseb

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Feb 13, 2007, 12:25:34 PM2/13/07
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I finally got the pictures posted. I am new to the digital camera
thing. Hope this doesn't post twice.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/72613373@N00/

Denise


LizardGumbo

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Feb 13, 2007, 12:28:29 PM2/13/07
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deniseb wrote:

> I finally got the pictures posted. I am new to the digital camera
> thing. Hope this doesn't post twice.


Oh, that's neat! Where'd you get the floss separators?


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deniseb

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>
> Oh, that's neat! Where'd you get the floss separators?
>
> --
> Lizard Gumbo
> aka Elizabeth

The Container Store. They came in 4' strips and I cut them and used
these little sticky connectors to hold them in place.

What you can't see is that the drawer doesn't open all the way ( the
drawer slides prevent it - bummer) and in that space - I have the
floss that doesn't fit into the individual slots.

Denise

Cheryl Isaak

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Feb 13, 2007, 12:41:52 PM2/13/07
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On 2/13/07 12:25 PM, in article
1171387534.0...@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com, "deniseb"
<bbearl...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Moving away from the keyboard so the drool doesn't void the warranty.

GORGEOUS!
C

LizardGumbo

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Feb 13, 2007, 12:56:40 PM2/13/07
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deniseb wrote:

> The Container Store. They came in 4' strips and I cut them and used
> these little sticky connectors to hold them in place.

Thanks. I could use something like that.

I had seen those map chests before and coveted, but those were a little
beyond my reach and the only talented carpenter I know would have
charged even more than that for one.

> What you can't see is that the drawer doesn't open all the way ( the
> drawer slides prevent it - bummer) and in that space - I have the
> floss that doesn't fit into the individual slots.

You know, there are slides that run all the way out. Try Lee Valley
http://tinyurl.com/22z9y8


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MelissaD

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Feb 13, 2007, 1:51:17 PM2/13/07
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"Gill Murray" <gillm...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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No drawers - probably a good thing because with shelves I can see everything
:)
The cabinet has one wooden wardrobe rod across the top on the left-hand side
and one permanent shelf on the right-hand side. The other 4 shelves can be
moved about pretty much where you want. I did change the handles on the
front because I wanted something a little softer looking and my DH added
magnetic catches to the inside at the top so the doors close nicely. I'm
debating whitewashing it this summer just to add some color but I haven't
decided if I want to do that yet or not.

MelissaD


MelissaD

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"The Lady Gardener" <Nos...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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OK - I must be too organized - I walked over to my file cabinet, pulled out
the "Grapes" folder (yes I have a few grape patterns since I love purple and
live next to a vineyard) and voila! "Fruit of the Vine" by Sheepish Designs
is the pattern for the grape fob. It was fun, especially the little curling
vines at the top!

MelissaD


MelissaD

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"Cheryl Isaak" <chery...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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We've only had our Ikea store in the Sacramento area about a year - have
never been in one before....I was there for hours just lusting after all the
clean organized stuff for every room of the house! My next project is
furnishing the newly remodeled "office/craft/homework/library" room....with
a computer desk, file space, sewing machine space, etc.....looking forward
to visiting Ikea for that too! My VISA card is frightened!
MelissaD


MelissaD

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"deniseb" <bbearl...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Wow - that's gorgeous - always liked black walnut. Lucky you!
My DH does some woodworking projects but somehow they don't make it into our
house - rocking horses, wagons, quilt stands...and now he's working on a
cedar strip canoe out in the barn.......don't think I can store floss in
that!
MelissaD


ellice

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Feb 13, 2007, 4:24:53 PM2/13/07
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It's gorgeous. I've been hoping to buy a map chest kind of thing for
storing all my canvas, papers, etc. That's really deluxe for your floss.

ellice

ellice

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Feb 13, 2007, 4:55:14 PM2/13/07
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We have 2 IKEAs here - one in VA at Potomac Mills and the other in MD near
the U of MD in College Park. Also one near Baltimore at White Marsh.

I got a wall unit/tv thing there when some years back - and it held up
pretty well, but was really difficult to put together. It's kind of wobbley
now, but. We like them for things like book shelves, etc. and some
accessories. But, am wary with the upholstery - the sofas tend to be not
very deep in the seat area. OTOH, my black standard leather IKEA chair
sling kind of thing has held up alright - though a bolt popped pretty
quickly. Thing with their furniture is to really look at it - the solid
pieces, like your cabinet - tend to be great. But, a number of other things
can end up kind of flimsy. Seem to have gone up in price a bit. On the
whole it's a great store, and certainly everyone I know has gone through a
phase of being addicted when they first find it!

ellice

anne

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Feb 13, 2007, 4:59:13 PM2/13/07
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Bruce Fletcher said
>
> Trains? Now you're talking!
> But to get back to needlework, a friend of ours is a great Terry
> Pratchett "DiscWorld" fan and she keeps her stache in a large,
> compartmented wooden box which has been nicknamed "Luggage"

oooooooooh, does your friend's Luggage have little feet too?

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Bruce Fletcher

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anne wrote:
> Bruce Fletcher said
>> Trains? Now you're talking!
>> But to get back to needlework, a friend of ours is a great Terry
>> Pratchett "DiscWorld" fan and she keeps her stache in a large,
>> compartmented wooden box which has been nicknamed "Luggage"
>
> oooooooooh, does your friend's Luggage have little feet too?
>

No, but sometimes you get the feeling that it's watching you...

carol

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Feb 14, 2007, 4:30:07 AM2/14/07
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Wow, what an organised lot we are!

I wonder if I could ask a favour? I am in the process of writing a
page on organising your stash for my needlework website. I would love
to include some of your ideas, named if you would like, on the page.
Would anyone object?

Thanks for some great tips.

Regards,

Carol

P.S. I will have to take a photo of my filing cabinet full of DMC
cones for you!

Cheryl Isaak

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Feb 14, 2007, 6:30:32 AM2/14/07
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On 2/14/07 4:30 AM, in article
1171445407....@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com, "carol"
<carol....@googlemail.com> wrote:

I wouldn't mind! I'll even share a picture of my stored flosses if you want!
C

carol

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Feb 14, 2007, 8:13:51 AM2/14/07
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Cheryl that would be lovely. Thanks. I love a picture if you really
wouldn't mind.

Regards,

Carol Leather

lewmew

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Feb 14, 2007, 9:30:19 AM2/14/07
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> > C- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I, OTOH, will volunteer for the before picture LOL!

Linda

carol

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Feb 14, 2007, 9:55:21 AM2/14/07
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Linda,

Before pictures would be fantastic :) I can leave your name out if you
prefer?

Thanks

Carol Leather

Joan E.

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Feb 14, 2007, 11:34:45 AM2/14/07
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anne wrote:

> How do you store your patterns, kits, charts, magazines, books?

Well, I've *finally* gotten some pictures taken of the cabinet I had
my dad make for me nearly 2 years ago (getting a digital camera for
Christmas really helped! :) ).

It's 6' tall and 4' wide. The top 2 shelves have my books (right now
stitching and non) and magazine binders. I will eventually get all my
magazines into matching 3-ring binders with pretty labels. I have the
binders, just need to do the transferring. The left side holds my
floss cabinets and 2 shallow drawers for fabric (one for aida, the
other for other evenweaves). The right side (not shown because my
camera was being dorky and maybe that's good because it's kind of a
mess right now! LOL) has shelves for other stuff: yarn, regular
fabric, miscellaneous other things. I have 3 drawers at the bottom,
2 of which have file folders with loose patterns, organized by subject
(cats & dogs, horses, fantasy, wildlife, MLI, samplers, etc) and the
3rd drawer has kits waiting to be stitched.

You can see pictures in my webshots album:
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/358698631yQeGBs?start=48

I *absolutely LOVE* having all my stitching stuff in one place now.

I also finally have pics of my finished and framed Fairy Grandmother,
which I finished shortly after Christmas.

Joan

Cheryl Isaak

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Feb 14, 2007, 11:35:47 AM2/14/07
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Contact me off list! I won't do it today as the kids are home, but I can
take pictures tomorrow!
C

On 2/14/07 8:13 AM, in article
1171458831....@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com, "carol"

Karen C - California

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carol wrote:
> Would anyone object?
>

>
Be my guest. Let me know if you want me to expand on what I said.

--

Karen C - California
www.CFSfacts.org where we give you the facts and dispel the myths
Myths, with research cites: http://www.aacfs.org/images/pdfs/myths.pdf

Finished 1/26/07 -- Classy Lady in Coral (JCS) -- done in purple to
match the companion piece

WIP: housewarming gifts, July birthstone, Flowers of
Hawaii (Jeanette Crews) for ME!!!
Retrieved from UFO pile: Marbek's Snow Angel
LTR: Fireman's Prayer (#2), Amid Amish Life, Angel of Autumn,
Calif Sampler, Holiday Snowglobe

Editor/Proofreader www.KarenMCampbell.com
Design page http://www.KarenMCampbell.com/designs.html

carol

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Feb 14, 2007, 1:09:04 PM2/14/07
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Thanks Karen,

I'll be in touch if I have any questions, thanks.

Regards,

Carol Leather
www.needlework-tips-and-techniques.com


On Feb 14, 5:37 pm, Karen C - California <KMC...@aol.com> wrote:
> carol wrote:
> > Would anyone object?
>
> Be my guest. Let me know if you want me to expand on what I said.
>
> --
>

> Karen C - Californiawww.CFSfacts.orgwhere we give you the facts and dispel the myths

deniseb

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Feb 14, 2007, 5:09:21 PM2/14/07
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Carol -

I feel the same as Karen -- be my guest.

Now I have the stupid song from "Beauty and the Beast" stuck in my
head. Be my guest, Be my guest, put ... to the test. I don't know the
words, but now it is stuck there!!!!

Denise

lewmew

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Feb 14, 2007, 5:31:23 PM2/14/07
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Be my guest, Be my guest, put ... to the test. I don't know the
> words, but now it is stuck there!!!!
>
> Denise

Wouldn't want you to suffer!

Be our guest! Be our guest!
Put our service to the test
Tie your napkin 'round your neck, cherie
And we'll provide the rest
Soup du jour
Hot hors d'oeuvres
Why, we only live to serve
Try the grey stuff
Chip:
It's delicious
Lumiere:
Don't believe me? Ask the dishes
They can sing, they can dance
After all, Miss, this is France
And a dinner here is never second best
Go on, unfold your menu
Take a glance and then you'll
Be our guest
Oui, our guest
Be our guest!
Lumiere and Chorus:
Beef ragout
Cheese souffle
Pie and pudding "en flambe"
Lumiere:
We'll prepare and serve with flair
A culinary cabaret!
You're alone
And you're scared
But the banquet's all prepared
No one's gloomy or complaining
While the flatware's entertaining
We tell jokes! I do tricks
With my fellow candlesticks
Chorus:
And it's all in perfect taste
That you can bet
Come on and lift your glass
You've won your own free pass
To be out guest
Lumiere:
If you're stressed
It's fine dining we suggest


Chorus:
Be our guest! Be our guest! Be our guest!
Get your worries off your chest
Let us say for your entree
We've an array; may we suggest:
Try the bread! Try the soup!
When the croutons loop de loop
It's a treat for any dinner
Don't belive me? Ask the china
Singing pork! Dancing veal!
What an entertaining meal!
How could anyone be gloomy and depressed?
We'll make you shout "encore!"
And send us out for more
So, be our guest!
Lumiere:
Be our guest!
Chorus:
Be our guest!
Mrs Potts:
It's a guest! It's a guest!
Sakes alive, well I'll be blessed!
Wine's been poured and thank the Lord
I've had the napkins freshly pressed
With dessert, she'll want tea
And my dear that's fine with me
While the cups do their soft-shoein'
I'll be bubbling, I'll be brewing
I'll get warm, piping hot
Heaven's sakes! Is that a spot?
Clean it up! We want the company impressed
Chorus:
We've got a lot to do!
Mrs Potts:
Is it one lump or two?
For you, our guest!
Chorus:
She's our guest!
Mrs Potts:
She's our guest!
Chorus:
She's our guest!
Be our guest! Be our guest! Be our guest!
Lumiere:
Life is so unnerving
For a servant who's not serving
He's not whole without a soul to wait upon
Ah, those good old days when we were useful...
Suddenly those good old days are gone
Ten years we've been rusting
Needing so much more than dusting
Needing exercise, a chance to use our skills!
Most days we just lay around the castle
Flabby, fat and lazy
You walked in and oops-a-daisy!
Chorus:
Be our guest! Be our guest!
Our command is your request
It's been years since we've had anybody here
And we're obsessed
With your meal, with your ease
Yes, indeed, we aim to please
While the candlelight's still glowing
Let us help you, We'll keep going
Course by course, one by one
'Til you shout, "Enough! I'm done!"
Then we'll sing you off to sleep as you digest
Tonight you'll prop your feet up
But for now, let's eat up
Be our guest!
Be our guest!
Be our guest!
Please, be our guest!

carol

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Feb 14, 2007, 6:05:24 PM2/14/07
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Thanks Denise,

Maybe between us all we can get those other stitchers organised.

Regards,

Carol Leather

Bruce Fletcher

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Feb 14, 2007, 6:56:48 PM2/14/07
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Is that the "Beauty & the Beast" that used to be on TV several years
ago? Lovely series - with a good cast, "Mouse" and friends - that
Maureen and I watched every week .

Karen C - California

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Feb 14, 2007, 7:24:05 PM2/14/07
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carol wrote:
>
> Maybe between us all we can get those other stitchers organised.
>
> Regards,
>
> Carol Leather
>

Hmmmm, there's a business idea. A couple of us more organized stitchers
will travel around the country (in Gill's RV, of course) and do the
sorting and organizing. Cost: you take us to your LNS and pay for our
purchases. :) (Which is why we're taking Gill's RV.....)

--

Karen C - California
www.CFSfacts.org where we give you the facts and dispel the myths


Myths, with research cites: http://www.aacfs.org/images/pdfs/myths.pdf

Finished 1/26/07 -- Classy Lady in Coral (JCS) -- done in purple to
match the companion piece

WIP: housewarming gifts, July birthstone, Flowers of
Hawaii (Jeanette Crews) for ME!!!
Retrieved from UFO pile: Marbek's Snow Angel
LTR: Fireman's Prayer (#2), Amid Amish Life, Angel of Autumn,
Calif Sampler, Holiday Snowglobe

Editor/Proofreader www.KarenMCampbell.com
Design page http://www.KarenMCampbell.com/designs.html

Jere Williams

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Feb 14, 2007, 8:52:07 PM2/14/07
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No, it would be from the Broadway musical based on the Disney movie.

But I loved that tv series too...Vincent was so great.
--
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http://community.webshots.com/user/Jere224422


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ellice

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Feb 14, 2007, 11:48:07 PM2/14/07
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The cabinet is gorgeous. And definitly you are really organized. It is
nice having stuff all in one place - I'm just happy when it's kind of mostly
just in 1 or 2 rooms!


>
> I also finally have pics of my finished and framed Fairy Grandmother,
> which I finished shortly after Christmas.
>

Very nice - looks great.

ellice

MelissaD

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"carol" <carol....@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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No problem - it's always fun to see other ideas for storage and organizing!
MelissaD


MelissaD

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"Karen C - California" <KMC...@aol.com> wrote in message
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We could start up a craft/needlework version of the "Clean Sweep" TV show on
TLC !

MelissaD


Susan Hartman

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Feb 15, 2007, 9:35:14 AM2/15/07
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ellice wrote:

> The cabinet is gorgeous. And definitly you are really organized. It is
> nice having stuff all in one place - I'm just happy when it's kind of mostly
> just in 1 or 2 rooms!

Then you NEED this:
http://tinyurl.com/3dbmxn

(always happy to enable...)

Sue


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Gill Murray

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Feb 15, 2007, 10:02:46 AM2/15/07
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Karen C - California wrote:
> carol wrote:
>
>>
>> Maybe between us all we can get those other stitchers organised.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Carol Leather
>>
>
>
>
> Hmmmm, there's a business idea. A couple of us more organized stitchers
> will travel around the country (in Gill's RV, of course) and do the
> sorting and organizing. Cost: you take us to your LNS and pay for our
> purchases. :) (Which is why we're taking Gill's RV.....)
>

Who, pray tell, is going to drive the thing?? Not me, I promise you!!

Gill

Cheryl Isaak

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Feb 15, 2007, 10:07:58 AM2/15/07
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On 2/15/07 9:35 AM, in article 12t8rt4...@corp.supernews.com, "Susan
Hartman" <su...@dirtylinen.com> wrote:

> ellice wrote:
>
>> The cabinet is gorgeous. And definitly you are really organized. It is
>> nice having stuff all in one place - I'm just happy when it's kind of mostly
>> just in 1 or 2 rooms!
>
> Then you NEED this:
> http://tinyurl.com/3dbmxn
>
> (always happy to enable...)
>
> Sue
>

Yes, I do!

Cheryl

Cheryl Isaak

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Feb 15, 2007, 10:08:38 AM2/15/07
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On 2/15/07 10:02 AM, in article qC_Ah.3549$TG6.2753@trnddc06, "Gill Murray"
<gillm...@nowhere.net> wrote:

Hmm - hey Bruce, driving a RV is a "man thing"; want the job? (giggle,
giggle)

C

ellice

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Feb 15, 2007, 11:06:16 AM2/15/07
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On 2/15/07 9:35 AM, "Susan Hartman" <su...@dirtylinen.com> wrote:

> ellice wrote:
>
>> The cabinet is gorgeous. And definitly you are really organized. It is
>> nice having stuff all in one place - I'm just happy when it's kind of mostly
>> just in 1 or 2 rooms!
>
> Then you NEED this:
> http://tinyurl.com/3dbmxn
>
> (always happy to enable...)
>
> Sue

LOL - fortunately it's just filling the rec room, my office/studio, and
well - some rather large unpacked boxes! Y'know the plan is to finish one
of the unfinished rooms in the basement level to be my play room. The main
area - which is embarassingly large - is done. But, that's DH's playroom -
eventually. For now - it has my sewing corner, and my stitching spread
around - besides the bigger trying to die tv, and the old sectional. In the
meantime - the bigger mess is my "sewing" - which hasn't completely migrated
downstairs, and still has some baskets in my bedroom, plus some in the
office, plus what's downstairs, and in the guest room. Ooops - there's
stitching stuff in bins in the guestroom and in the open loft/landing.

Hey - at least I finishted something from the outing - you enabler, you!

ellice

Bruce Fletcher

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Feb 15, 2007, 1:05:18 PM2/15/07
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Cheryl Isaak wrote:
> Hmm - hey Bruce, driving a RV is a "man thing"; want the job? (giggle,
> giggle)

Well, in 1969 the RAF taught me to drive and, thanks to a year or two of
working with alongside the Army, my RAF driving licence is/was signed up
for several armoured vehicles including Centurion tanks. But if an "RV"
is one of those huge mobile home monstrosities that handles like a hippo
wallowing in thick mud then I think I'll let someone else do the
driving. No doubt an RV is fine on a nice large USA motorways but
negotiating the narrower lanes, especially those in the North of
Scotland, would be a little tricky at times. Thanks for the offer (and
the cute giggle) though <g>


--
Bruce Fletcher
Stronsay, Orkney
<www.stronsay.co.uk/claremont>

"It's not that I think stupidity should be punishable by death. I just
think we should take the warning labels off of everything and let the
problem take care of itself."

Gill Murray

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Bruce Fletcher wrote:
> Cheryl Isaak wrote:
>
>> Hmm - hey Bruce, driving a RV is a "man thing"; want the job? (giggle,
>> giggle)
>
>
> Well, in 1969 the RAF taught me to drive and, thanks to a year or two of
> working with alongside the Army, my RAF driving licence is/was signed up
> for several armoured vehicles including Centurion tanks. But if an "RV"
> is one of those huge mobile home monstrosities that handles like a hippo
> wallowing in thick mud then I think I'll let someone else do the
> driving. No doubt an RV is fine on a nice large USA motorways but
> negotiating the narrower lanes, especially those in the North of
> Scotland, would be a little tricky at times. Thanks for the offer (and
> the cute giggle) though <g>

That's what it is, Bruce! 37 ft long,8'6" wide; and then we tow the car
(Toyota Scion) behind, so that makes it a 50 ft train LOL. This current
one has air-suspension, diesel engine in the rear, and is too big for me
to drive with any confidence. However, when we are away from home for 5
months, as we were last summer, and covered 8500 miles, it is a super
"home away from home". We definitely avoid small roads, and JIm tries to
stick to the Interstate Highways, or other limited access roads. We use
the small car for all the sightseeing! I can't imagine doing the
sightseeing in the National Parks of the Rockies in this thing. We saw
several people who did, but white-knuckling it is no way to admire the
scenery in my opinion.

Knowing well the lanes of England and Scotland, there is no way in hell
I would take the rig over there. Mind you, some Brits *do* come over
here and buy them to take back. A little nuts, I think!

Gill

Cheryl Isaak

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Feb 15, 2007, 2:22:59 PM2/15/07
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On 2/15/07 2:19 PM, in article in2Bh.3826$TG6.3598@trnddc06, "Gill Murray"
<gillm...@nowhere.net> wrote:

I have this vision of an RV making its lumbering way along some of the
narrow roads in UK and on the "wrong side" yet! no way

C

Bruce Fletcher

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Feb 15, 2007, 3:57:16 PM2/15/07
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Cheryl Isaak wrote:
> I have this vision of an RV making its lumbering way along some of the
> narrow roads in UK and on the "wrong side" yet! no way
>
> C
>

A vehicle of that size wouldn't be on the "wrong side", it would be in
the middle and occupying all the available road! <g>
When we lived in Sutherland about 30 years ago there was at least one
instance of two tourists, one French the other German, driving these
huge vehicles on single track roads with passing places every mile or
two. The drivers were heading in opposite directions and saw each other
coming but refused to pull over at the nearest passing point so they
came nose to nose in one of the wilder, more remote bits of NE
Sutherland. All traffic stopped for several hours as neither driver
would give way and reverse to the nearest passing place; apparently
tempers became flared and things were about to turn quite nasty when a
policeman (who had to park and walk past a LONG line of cars) made them
BOTH back up to the nearest passing place and allow the rest of the
traffic to go on its way.

Cheryl Isaak

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Feb 15, 2007, 5:05:53 PM2/15/07
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On 2/15/07 3:57 PM, in article wvednW8ybq5_VUnY...@bt.com,
"Bruce Fletcher" <ricardi...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Cheryl Isaak wrote:
>> I have this vision of an RV making its lumbering way along some of the
>> narrow roads in UK and on the "wrong side" yet! no way
>>
>> C
>>
>
> A vehicle of that size wouldn't be on the "wrong side", it would be in
> the middle and occupying all the available road! <g>
> When we lived in Sutherland about 30 years ago there was at least one
> instance of two tourists, one French the other German, driving these
> huge vehicles on single track roads with passing places every mile or
> two. The drivers were heading in opposite directions and saw each other
> coming but refused to pull over at the nearest passing point so they
> came nose to nose in one of the wilder, more remote bits of NE
> Sutherland. All traffic stopped for several hours as neither driver
> would give way and reverse to the nearest passing place; apparently
> tempers became flared and things were about to turn quite nasty when a
> policeman (who had to park and walk past a LONG line of cars) made them
> BOTH back up to the nearest passing place and allow the rest of the
> traffic to go on its way.

I can only imagine! I recall a few places where it wasn't wide enough for
two Mini Coopers to pass each other!

C

Bruce Fletcher

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Feb 15, 2007, 7:08:15 PM2/15/07
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Cheryl Isaak wrote:
> I recall a few places where it wasn't wide enough for
> two Mini Coopers to pass each other!

Ah yes, 1275cc Mini Coopers - a lad's dream! I never managed to acquire
one of those but I did have a Mini Traveller (the half-timbered variety)
which was quite capacious. It had more room for the driver than my
previous car, an MG Magnette (BEFORE I was married!). When I got the
Mini Traveller after we moved to Scotland our very first Alsatian
(German Shepherd) could stand in the back when he was fully grown and
his ears did not touch the roof, something he could not do in a friend's
huge Ford Estate.

Gill Murray

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Feb 15, 2007, 10:04:27 PM2/15/07
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Bruce Fletcher wrote:
> Cheryl Isaak wrote:
>
>> I recall a few places where it wasn't wide enough for
>> two Mini Coopers to pass each other!
>
>
> Ah yes, 1275cc Mini Coopers - a lad's dream! I never managed to acquire
> one of those but I did have a Mini Traveller (the half-timbered variety)
> which was quite capacious. It had more room for the driver than my
> previous car, an MG Magnette (BEFORE I was married!). When I got the
> Mini Traveller after we moved to Scotland our very first Alsatian
> (German Shepherd) could stand in the back when he was fully grown and
> his ears did not touch the roof, something he could not do in a friend's
> huge Ford Estate.

I would love a Mini Cooper as a tow vehicle; the Scion looks a little
like it. However we do have a MGB, which Jim stripped all the way down,
learned to weld, and rebuilt the thing. He spent more money than was
sensible, but it was a great hobby for a couple of winters ( here in
Florida it is too hot in the summer to do this sort of project).

Gillian

LizardGumbo

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Feb 17, 2007, 9:47:49 AM2/17/07
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MelissaD wrote:

> We could start up a craft/needlework version of the "Clean Sweep" TV show on
> TLC !


I have noticed on that show and the other one, Clean House, they don't
value craft stash. They think if you haven't used it in X number of
months, you don't need it.

Sacrilege, I say!

I wouldn't let any of them near my house for that reason. But then,
other than stash, I'm rather Zennish, myself...


--
Lizard Gumbo
aka Elizabeth

http://www.effervescentdesigns.com

Pop the bubbles to reply.

deniseb

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Feb 17, 2007, 12:48:37 PM2/17/07
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> > We could start up a craft/needlework version of the "Clean Sweep" TV show on
> > TLC !
>
> I have noticed on that show and the other one, Clean House, they don't
> value craft stash. They think if you haven't used it in X number of
> months, you don't need it.
>

Okay --- I have a driver for the RV. My husband used to be a OTR
driver in another life. He says 50' is something he can handle.

As for "Clean Sweep" --- they always have Keep, Sell and Trash piles.
I say we convince the person we're cleaning/organizing to give us the
stash they don't need and we take it back to the RV and sort it out
for ourselves as we go to the next job.

And thank you for posting the entire lyrics of "Be Our Guest". My
daughter (age 16) and I watched the Disney movie just for that song
yesterday.

Denise

Karen C - California

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Feb 17, 2007, 1:07:57 PM2/17/07
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LizardGumbo wrote:
>
> I have noticed on that show and the other one, Clean House, they don't
> value craft stash. They think if you haven't used it in X number of
> months, you don't need it.
>
> Sacrilege, I say!
>


I've had several men come in and announce that they could clean up my
house PDQ. Step one for all of them was "we're getting rid of these big
bins of yarn." The guy from Social Services was stunned when I told him
that if he came back in 6 months, all the yarn in the one next to the
love seat would be knit up into gifts and gone from the house. (Didn't
tell him that I'd have refilled the basket.)

Second suggestion is always that they could make a lot of floor space by
getting rid of the books and bookshelves.

One of these guys, I've been to his house and know his dirty little
secret. Suggested that before he started tossing my yarn and books
which he deemed "junk", he should go home and toss all those 25-year old
computers and peripherals, which really ARE junk.

Honestly, after explaining to the guy from Social Services that I'd
looked into Assisted Living, but was years away from being old enough to
move in, he started explaining to me that I needed to *right*now* toss
all my books and yarn, because there wouldn't be room for them in the
A.L. apartment. I know that, but I don't see the point in throwing
things away now because I'll be moving to a smaller place when I'm 55.
What am I supposed to read till then?

Bruce Fletcher

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Feb 17, 2007, 1:33:42 PM2/17/07
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Karen C - California wrote:
> Second suggestion is always that they could make a lot of floor space by
> getting rid of the books and bookshelves.

But what's the point of making a lot of floor space? Do they intend you
to start holding regular barn dances?

Gill Murray

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Feb 17, 2007, 1:37:42 PM2/17/07
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Good plan! And the cargo bays are big enough for LOTS of big Rubbermaid
boxes, so long as we don't carry unnecessary items like tools, spare
parts, ham radio equipment; we can really load the rig up!! Don't worry,
there is plenty more room inside for wine, and some food.


Gill

LizardGumbo

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Feb 17, 2007, 1:37:07 PM2/17/07
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Bruce Fletcher wrote:

> But what's the point of making a lot of floor space? Do they intend you
> to start holding regular barn dances?

Well, at the risk of sounding slightly neurotic, I MUST have lots of
space in my living areas. I have my stash packed away nicely and
neatly. My kids' toys drive me absolutely bananas.

I'm the antipackrat. I throw stuff out ruthlessly. Except stash. If I
didn't need furniture to sit on and beds to sleep in, I may not have
that, either.

I have books, which are packed away because one of my children is the
Tasmanian Devil and she destroys EVERYTHING, but even those I cull. I
have found out about this fabulous place where you go and you can BORROW
books for, like, 3 weeks at a time and read them and take them back--FOR
FREE! I can't remember what it's called.

I envy houses with lots of open, clean, airy space.

Karen C - California

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Feb 17, 2007, 5:41:57 PM2/17/07
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Bruce Fletcher wrote:

> Karen C - California wrote:
>
>> Second suggestion is always that they could make a lot of floor space
>> by getting rid of the books and bookshelves.
>
>
> But what's the point of making a lot of floor space? Do they intend you
> to start holding regular barn dances?

Well, if I got the bookcases away from the walls, then I could fit a
scooter or a wheelchair down the hallway. But what they aren't
addressing with their logic of making room for a wheelchair is that the
doors aren't wide enough, so I could scoot up and down the main hallway,
but would then have to get up and walk into the actual rooms.

No, I can't widen the doors; these rooms are small and everything fits
just so. The bathroom door is tightly wedged between the toilet and the
tub; I can't move anything even one inch, much less 8-10" to accommodate
a wheelchair. And the only way to get a wheelchair through the bedroom
would be to take out everything except the bed. Not even a small table
could be left next to the bed.

Anyway, the issue is not that I'm horizontal because my legs won't
support me; it's because when I stand OR sit for long, I pass out. A
wheelchair or scooter wouldn't solve that problem, because I'd have to
sit up to use it. But people leap to their own conclusions about why
you're lying on the couch; 99% of people who don't walk much, it's
because they need a wheelchair, therefore, they assume that must be my
problem, too, and offer suggestions that have nothing to do with my needs.

Liz from Humbug

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Feb 17, 2007, 9:16:30 PM2/17/07
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LizardGumbo wrote:
snip

I
> have found out about this fabulous place where you go and you can BORROW
> books for, like, 3 weeks at a time and read them and take them back--FOR
> FREE! I can't remember what it's called.

Not in Jackson County, Oregon, you can't! Well, you can now, but our
entire county library system is closing indefinitely in April :-
((((((( It's really sad and we're hoping that the communities and
local/federal governments will be able to figure out some kind of
dependable financing for the future but it sure looks pretty dim now.
On the other hand, I'll finally have my Saturdays off again and maybe
the people on the fence about the issue will appreciate us more once
they've gone without the library system for a while. Our local
senator (Gordon Smith) is going to try a fillibuster for the budget
bill to see if 8 million (or so) can be squeezed out of a multi
trillion dollar budget, but we're not expecting a "Mr Smith Goes to
Washington" type of happy ending. The County Commissioners want a
long term committment before they re-open the libraries, so even a one
year extension of the Rural Schools legislation won't help us. The
county will take it and put it in the general fund, but it won't be
enough to keep the libraries open. It will help the law enforcement
and roads, but not the libraries. :-((( Enough whining for now. I'm
trying to stay focused on the Saturdays (and other days) off, and not
on the young, old and middle aged kids who will have to deal with
locked library doors.


>
> I envy houses with lots of open, clean, airy space.
>

I do too, but I would LOVE to have enough extra rooms to have a
LIBRARY and a YARN/NEEDLEWORK rooms. I like to do the actual
stitching and reading in the living room with DH, the TV and the wood
stove, but it sure would be nice to have separate rooms for the books/
videos, another for yarn & needlework items and yet another for when
company comes for the night. :-)

Liz from Humbug

LizardGumbo

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Feb 17, 2007, 9:33:05 PM2/17/07
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Liz from Humbug wrote:

> Not in Jackson County, Oregon, you can't! Well, you can now, but our
> entire county library system is closing indefinitely in April


Oh, man, I'm really sorry for you all. I am ashamed to admit that I
haven't a clue how our library system is funded, but it's been growing
by leaps and bounds since I was a child. And further, I'm ashamed to
admit that I do take it for granted.

In fact, when I was a child I knew of 2 branches. Now they're all over
the metro plus some of the surrounding rural areas, with 30 total
branches. We do have a couple of branches closing for renovations, though.

Go here: http://www.mcpl.lib.mo.us/

They have the annual report available for review. I wonder if that
would help in your fight any? (Yes, I know my naivete is showing!)

Lucille

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"Liz from Humbug" <li...@vsisp.net> wrote in message
news:1171764990....@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com...


Oh Liz--It's so hard to believe that in this supposedly enlightened country
they have the nerve to close your libraries. It's positively obscene.

Lucille
>


Bruce Fletcher

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Feb 18, 2007, 4:30:44 AM2/18/07
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Liz from Humbug wrote:
> LizardGumbo wrote:
> snip
> I
>> have found out about this fabulous place where you go and you can BORROW
>> books for, like, 3 weeks at a time and read them and take them back--FOR
>> FREE! I can't remember what it's called.
>
> Not in Jackson County, Oregon, you can't! Well, you can now, but our
> entire county library system is closing indefinitely in April...

That is truly dreadful! People take public libraries for granted and
will only miss them when they have gone. We are fortunate in that the
mobile library comes over once a month and we can take as many books out
as we like; and if we want a particular book all it takes is a quick
email to the main library in Kirkwall.
I do hope that there is large, public outcry once folk find out that
their library is no longer available.

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Karen C - California

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Feb 18, 2007, 8:30:37 AM2/18/07
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Lucille wrote:
>
> Oh Liz--It's so hard to believe that in this supposedly enlightened country
> they have the nerve to close your libraries. It's positively obscene.
>
> Lucille
>
>
>


They do.

When we moved to Redding, the downtown library had just come off being
closed for months. The neighborhood library was permanently closed.

Even though the doors were open a few hours a week, they had NO magazine
subscriptions, hadn't bought a new book in years... The city had
managed to scrape up a few dollars for lights and salaries, with the
proviso that when the money ran out, the library would again be closed
till the beginning of the next fiscal year.

It just wasn't as high a priority as police and fire.

Then moved here, and in a debate on funding, the police chief actually
said that the crime rate goes up when libraries are closed, they could
fund more hours for the library so the kids had a place to go after
school, or he'd be back asking for emergency funds for more officers.
But even here, we went through a phase where the library system had no
money for books other than what the volunteers could raise.

Cheryl Isaak

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On 2/18/07 8:30 AM, in article 53r2q0F...@mid.individual.net, "Karen C
- California" <KMC...@aol.com> wrote:

> Lucille wrote:
>>
>> Oh Liz--It's so hard to believe that in this supposedly enlightened country
>> they have the nerve to close your libraries. It's positively obscene.
>>
>> Lucille
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> They do.
>
> When we moved to Redding, the downtown library had just come off being
> closed for months. The neighborhood library was permanently closed.
>
> Even though the doors were open a few hours a week, they had NO magazine
> subscriptions, hadn't bought a new book in years... The city had
> managed to scrape up a few dollars for lights and salaries, with the
> proviso that when the money ran out, the library would again be closed
> till the beginning of the next fiscal year.
>
> It just wasn't as high a priority as police and fire.
>
> Then moved here, and in a debate on funding, the police chief actually
> said that the crime rate goes up when libraries are closed, they could
> fund more hours for the library so the kids had a place to go after
> school, or he'd be back asking for emergency funds for more officers.
> But even here, we went through a phase where the library system had no
> money for books other than what the volunteers could raise.

So far our library should be fine, the Friends group does a great job fund
raising and the school board has made it clear that it needs to exist.

I have 3-4 bags of books and such that will head there on Tuesday...

C

Liz from Humbug

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Feb 20, 2007, 1:53:03 AM2/20/07
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Our Friends Groups did a great job several years ago when the county
voters passed a bond measure to build or re-build new libraries. As
much as we'd like to be able to point a finger at someone, it really
isn't any one person or group's fault. Much of the land in the area
is owned by the Federal government, which means that property taxes
cannot be collected on it. Because of the logging debates, the timber
revenue virtually disappeared so the government had been sending money
to counties like ours (also in California, Utah, Idaho, Colorado and
other states) to help make up the money lost by the lack of timber
harvest. Well, this year, with Iraq, Katrina and who knows what, the
money was not renewed, leaving most of the affected counties short of
a great portion of their usual budget. One county will have a
sherrif, but no patrols at all. Others will lose anything not
federally mandated, with a skeleton crew to run things. Voters and
propery owners can only pay for so much and, in our case, they said in
November that enough was enough. That is a short synopsis of what is
going on.

We know lots of people support the library, but many either can't or
don't want to pay for it out of their own pockets. We're hoping to
eventually have a library district, but that takes a while to set up
and put into action. We know that some of the people who voted "no"
in November, like the libraries but were mad at the county. We know
we'll re-open one way or another, it just won't be in the same form
that we have now. Right now, we're "mothballing" the buildings in
preparation for re-opening at a future time. We're also preparing to
ask the voters to vote on the same levy in May that they voted down in
November. If that passes, great, if not, we will come up with
something else. The library system itself, doesn't see selling off
smaller branches as an option and cutting hours further (we cut them
back in 2003, which is when I went back to working every Saturday) is
not a popular option either. In some ways, we can't win. People want
us open more hours, but they don't want to pay for it themselves. I
actually hade a couple of people say "I'm not going to vote for the
levy, the government should pay for things like libraries". I didn't
ask the where they think "the government" gets the money to pay for
"things like libraries". :-)) It's not like any of the congressmen
are going to give up their salaries to keep the libraries open or the
sherrif's patrols running. Oh well. Back to stitching. It helps
keep me sane and I have to admit that I have a couple of week's work
lined in the yard and house before my unemployment kicks in. :-)
Watch, it will rain the whole time I'm off & then I'll find a 40 hour
a week job to replace the 20 hours I work now & won't have any "extra"
time for gardening or for stitching. Whine, whine, whine!!!! :-)))))
If anyone is interested in reading about it, the website is: <http://
www.jcls.org>. The closure stuff is under the "more information"
link. It was wonderful last Wednesday, the second grade class walked
over (the K - 8 school is next door) to deliver valentines to my boss/
friend & I. I'm glad I didn't have to read them in front of the kids,
some of them were so sweet they made us teary eyed. :-))))) Sorry
about the loooooooong post.
Liz from Humbug

Karen C - California

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Feb 20, 2007, 12:13:57 PM2/20/07
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Liz from Humbug wrote: People want

> us open more hours, but they don't want to pay for it themselves.
>


Our library thing-which-is-not-a-tax was sold to voters with "this is
the price of you buying one hardback book a year". Since we had just
been through a year of buying very few books, most library users had had
to buy at least one book that the library either didn't have the funds
for, or had only bought one or two copies, so the reserve list was 2
years long.

Didn't take much for people to extrapolate that we could each buy our
own copy of Grisham's latest and have nothing to read the rest of the
year, or we could pool our money and let the library buy the new Grisham
and the new Steve Martini and the new James Michener, and have a new
book every week for the price of one.

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