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Mirjam Bruck-Cohen

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Aug 26, 2003, 2:15:54 PM8/26/03
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I have not read Mrs PP words about my art, and found out about it only
through Joyce`s remark, i would like to read what ever Mrs PP wrote so
please feel free either to repost it or email it privately to me. But i
have read Mrs PP remark[s] as to my peace working. I thought that
the Curator Haim Maor , has asked me many relevant questions just about
the above Subjects , thus i forward you his printed interview, with me in
the Catalog of the Exhibition :" Marked Landscapes " Landscape -Place in
contemporary Israeli art. Ben Gurion University of the Negev, The Avraham
Baron Art Gallery, Senate Gallery. 20 artists took part inthis exhibition
. all dealing with Political , ecological sociological questions.
----------------

Mirjam Bruck-Cohen

1943 Born in Switzerland. Immigrated to Israel from the Netherlands in
1950. Lives and works in Haifa.

1960-1961 Studied at the Hebrew University, Jerusalem
1962-1964 Evening Studies at the Technion, Israel Institute of Technology,
Haifa
1964-1966 Studied at Haifa University
1981-1983 Studied Weaving at Boston University, USA

Selected Solo Exhibitions 1995 "Woman with Threads," Beit Hayotzer
Gallery, Haifa 2001 "Mapressions Loci," Mishkan Le'omanut, Museum of Art,
Ein Harod Since 1984 has participated in numerous group exhibitions in
Israel and abroad.

Mirjam Bruck-Cohen: Woven Textures and Urban Architecture

"Both pieces are part of a body of work I created during 1993-2001, which
was exhibited at the Mishkan Le'omanut, Museum of Art, Ein Harod in 2001
under the title Mapressions Loci.
Regarding the work Shfar'am Landscape - Residential Neighborhood (2001) -
I was familiar with the town of Shfar'am. I live in the area; I knew its
history and was aware of its Jewish history. It was an important Jewish
settlement in the Sanhedrin period, and only later was it 'covered' by
non-Jewish (Arab, Bedouin, Templar) strata.
As part of our argument with our neighbors, I find the attempt to hide the
Jewish history that ostensibly did not exist disturbing, an attempt that
lends the debate a false dimension, distorting the facts. Therefore I
wanted to show that the town of Shfar'am is a 'marked settlement.' It
reminds me of a postal envelope that shifts from hand.
to hand and is stamped with different stamps, one atop the other, or an
ancient book that many hands leaf through and signs of perspiration,
grease, coffee, etc. stain its pages. The map was knitted, a medium
generally used to prepare garments with which we cover ourselves. The
covering is not only for purposes of warmth, but it is also intended to
conceal and camouflage. Thus, the technique in my work acquires a
conceptual meaning.
Moreover, knitting is flexible, it stretches and shrinks, and in the
context of a map, this has territorial implications.
The 'holes' in the map are intentional. First, 'holes' in knitting
indicate damage and wear; second, the 'holes' in the work expose that
which hides beneath the cover: Sanhedrin, synagogue, etc.
As for The Architect's Vision - The Client's Whim (1996), this work has
different meanings pertaining to time.
When I began working on the project with the late Dov Chernobroda, he gave
me maps that he had already
drafted and which were already executed for the most part. As for the
neighborhood depicted in this particular
wo , asked him to show me the entire process from the very beginning, and
he told me about the specific
neighbo ood from the moment that he received the commission until the
implementation of the model. That
specific map was never realized and remained a vision. Since I was present
in parts of the place's planning process, thought it would be right to
incorporate the architect's face and handprint, interwoven as a natural
part
of the ap. The crisscross threads were selected according to the official
colors customary in urban maps.
Through the weaving technique, however, I emphasized certain colors,
thereby rendering the work more colorful,
while the colored sections remain integral to the general map. The
architect's portrait became a significant element for the map and for the
image represented in it, since in March 2002, six months after the work
was
exhibited in Ein Harod, he was killed in a terrorist attack at the Matza
restaurant in Haifa. As a result, the work
acquired an added dimension for me: a memory picture. A peace activist,
Dov promoted construction in Arab
and Palestinian settlements, for the benefit of the Arab community and in
order to form relations with the Palestinian
Authority. He conducted meetings and conversations with high-ranking
officials in the Palestinian Authority, but was eventually murdered by its
emissaries, five minutes from home. In this respect, the work became
"stamped"
with wonder, pain and many questions for which I have no answers."

[From a conversation with the artist conducted by Haim Maor]
translated into English by Daria Kassovsky


Dawne Peterson

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Aug 26, 2003, 7:08:38 PM8/26/03
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"Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote >

> I have not read Mrs PP words about my art, and >found out about it only
through Joyce`s remark, i >would like to read what ever Mrs PP wrote so
> please feel free either to repost it or email it >privately to me.

Why do you want to read something that you must know you will not like? Pat
has your posts filtered, and chooses not to read anything you post.You
have already posted the interview that expressed your sense of what you
were seeking to accomplish with your work, which the rest of us can read.
Pat expressed her opinion. She didn't care for what she saw of your work.
She doesn't care for Picasso, or Dali--or teddy bears, for that matter.
She quite cheerfully admits that most modern art works do not appeal to
her, and she is certainly entitled to her own response to art. She and I
could likely spent hours arguing our way through any museum--and would also
likely find things we both love. I am sure that you and I could do the
same.
Pat is an artist herself, through her stitchery designs and the photography
they are based on. I think her pictures are lovely, with a wonderful
glowing sense of the country she loves. A while ago, a poster suggested
they were pathetic and made her (and her mother) laugh. Two different
opinions. As an artist who has the courage to put her work in front of the
public, you know and accept that the work will be received differently by
different people.
Dawne


Pat Porter

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Aug 27, 2003, 5:51:53 AM8/27/03
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What a lovely idea, Dawn - I love museums! Of course you`re right - it`s
only rarely that two people like ALL the same things. I must say that I
very much liked what I saw of Mirjam`s "Map" dress - I forgot that one.

I`m a Constable/Gainsborough/Monet/ girl myself - as far as hanging on the
wall goes. The rest I love to look at, but wouldn`t necessarily want to live
with! Some of them I wouldn`t even go out of my way to look at. While I can
admire and understand the work that goes into them, I just hate the end
result. I think the one I loathe most is "The Scream". Why anyone would
want to have that hanging on their wall beats me. It`s pointless asking for
REASONS why anyone loves or hates an artwork, isn`t it?

It`s strange though, that someone like me who so dislikes most (repeat
"MOST" ) modern art in the form of paintings, very much likes a lot of Sir
Henry Moore`s and Barbara Hepworth`s work. Blowed if I can take seriously
those piles of bricks, or preserved dead cows and human cadavers etc. that
infiltrate the major rexhibitions these days though!

I`ve changed the header, as this subject is bound to bring forth a lot of
opinions in it`s own right. I put in an OT and then removed it, too, as so
often many paintings translate into cross stitch patterns.

Someone asked what my latest design was. It`s still, I`m afraid,
Athelhampton House in Dorset, said to be one of our most hasunted buildings!
It`s nearly finished now - only one full page out of the eighteen pages of
the chart left to stitch! Then I can finish my "Crab fishing at
Walberswick" one, hopefully. A crowd of lads (mostly) on a bridge fishing
for crabs. They hold an annual competition and I happened to be there with
my camera.

Pat P

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Dawne Peterson

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Aug 27, 2003, 10:39:22 AM8/27/03
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"Pat Porter" wrote
(lots of interesting things)

> I`ve changed the header, as this subject is bound to >bring forth a lot
of opinions in it`s own right. I put >in an OT and then removed it, too,
as so often many >paintings translate into cross stitch patterns.

Which ones are translated, and translate well, is an interesting subject in
itself. A few days ago, when we were all helping to identify the works
from an Aunt's workbox, I was transported back to my mother's guild. I
think every single stitcher had both Blue Boy and Pinkie, in everything
from silk gauze to wool needlepoint--we are talking back in the 1950s. Now
there are many pre-Raphaelites and similar Victorian/Edwardian paintings
being charted. I wonder why Tissot's things haven't been charted
more--fashionable ladies in gorgeous costume.

For myself, I have a painted needlepoint canvas of Fragonard's "Girl
Reading" in my stash, always a favourite of mine. And I have always wanted
to chart some of Beryl Cook's paintings, which have such humour. I also
have a knitting pattern using a Matisse figure which I think would be
wonderful if I ever get around to it. I think Matisse, Klee, and Miro (the
last two are favorites of mine) make wonderful needlepoint as well.

> Someone asked what my latest design was. It`s >still, I`m afraid,
Athelhampton House in Dorset, >said to be one of our most hasunted
buildings!
> It`s nearly finished now

So can we convince you to do a second version showing the ghosts--sort of
like Victorian spirit photography????? With glow in the dark filament??

Dawne, who wishes she could be strolling through an English museum today


Mirjam Bruck-Cohen

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Aug 27, 2003, 4:07:36 PM8/27/03
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Dawne Good evening , now i found your post ,, that is strange i do not
filter anything and lately do not get all the posts ,
>> Why do you want to read something that you must know you will not like?
How can i know if i like or dislike something without reading it? I
might not agree with PP `s ideology , this does not say i automaticly
must not like every word she writes. There is also the element of
curiousity, I see a remark about it and have no clue what it is about.

I have been known to sit on Artistic comittees and accept art by
people i will not want to change political ideas with.. Art is a media
in itself.

>Pat
>> has your posts filtered, and chooses not to read anything you post.You
>> have already posted the interview that expressed your sense of what you
>> were seeking to accomplish with your work, which the rest of us can read.
>> Pat expressed her opinion. She didn't care for what she saw of your work.

I have no problem with this . esp not after her other uncaring for
names . Seems i am in good company [hahah]

>> She doesn't care for Picasso, or Dali--or teddy bears, for that matter.
>> She quite cheerfully admits that most modern art works do not appeal to
>> her, and she is certainly entitled to her own response to art.

Weel Each to his and her taste !!! that`s waht makes art so facinating
AS to her not liking Modern art , this is such a Great world- wide-
embracing- term, that it doesn`t tell me much. .

>>. I am sure that you and I could do the same.

Quite a challenge !!

>> Pat is an artist herself, through her stitchery designs and the
>photography

I never saw her work so i must accept your description of it.
until i see them and make my own opinion .

>> A while ago, a poster suggested
>> they were pathetic and made her (and her mother) laugh. Two different
>> opinions. As an artist who has the courage to put her work in front of
>the
>> public, you know and accept that the work will be received differently by
>> different people.

And isn`t this just the wonderfulness of it ?? to hear so many people
to react in so many different ways?
mirjam

>

Mirjam Bruck-Cohen

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Aug 27, 2003, 4:07:38 PM8/27/03
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Wel Mrs PP thank you for writing that
>only rarely that two people like ALL the same things. I must say that I
>very much liked what I saw of Mirjam`s "Map" dress - I forgot that one.
I hope you also saw/ felt behind the decorative value of it .>

>result. I think the one I loathe most is "The Scream". Why anyone would
>want to have that hanging on their wall beats me. It`s pointless asking for
it would not surprise you that i just adore "The Scream " ? not for my
wall , but as a great Human expression .maybe predicting the horrors
of the 20 cent ,,,
Tastes in art do variate , good night
mirjam

Cheryl Isaak

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Funny (strange?) my favorite painting is Francis and the Shark (Copley). I
would not want to look at it everyday, but every time I go to the MFA in
Boston, I have to go study it again.
http://www.nga.gov/feature/watson/watsonhome.html

There are other favorites I revisit there, but that one just reels me in
every time. The other one is a Classical Era Egyptian portrait of a husband
and wife. It is so real, I expect them to blink!
Cheryl

Pat Porter

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Aug 27, 2003, 4:48:03 PM8/27/03
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I have a lovely one by Brian Hughes (Past-Master-Charter or Norley Needle)
of The Luncheon of the Boating Party. I keep intending to do it, but
whether I`ll ever get around to it, I can`t say. Maybe I should put it up
for grabs for someone with more determination! LOL! As for the ghosts -
I`ve been asked to do that before (with my Borley Church one), but really
feel it might be a bit tacky. Not sure. Athelhampton house is haunted by
four ladies (Mediaeval, I think) and a pet ape that got shut in a small room
and forgotten about, poor thing.

I think I feel about it as I do about ghost films. The more scary ones are
really where you see nothing!

Pat P

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Dawne Peterson

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Aug 27, 2003, 9:10:36 PM8/27/03
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Sheen wrote
> Yes, think of Psycho where you just saw the blood >swirling round going
down the plug hole lol

But Sheena--how often do you get the chance to see a ghost ape???
Dawne


Dawne Peterson

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Sheena wrote
> Now I am wondering, should I feel deprived, is
> something in my life missing that I have not seen one ? Do tell - what
is a ghost ape?

Pat says there is one in the haunted house she is charting up a design of.
I think she should forego good taste for this one time and put the ghost in
her picture--perhaps climbing up a wall?? (If she adds a belfry, I think I
can supply the bats)
Dawne


Darla

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Aug 27, 2003, 10:01:33 PM8/27/03
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Give me the Dutch Masters: Rembrandt, Frans Hals, Vermeer. I l-o-v-e
what they do with light (Kinkade's a piker compared to these guys!).
Darla
Sacred cows make great hamburgers.

Pat Porter

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Aug 28, 2003, 3:39:33 AM8/28/03
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No need Dawne - there are plenty of bats in my belfry!!! There`s also the
ghost of a little black dog running around this house and garden.

Pat P.

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Pat Porter

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Oh Darla - I agree with you there. Kinkade is lovely for turning into cross
stitch, but as paintings he`s far too "pretty pretty" for me. No bird would
ever dare poop on one of HIS houses! Neither would any dust dare to settle!

Pat P

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Cheryl Isaak

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Aug 28, 2003, 8:27:18 AM8/28/03
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Funny thing about Kincade - a painter friend and I discussed his art once.
While praising his use of light, he pointed out that the flowers are out
sequence frequently - forsythia blooming an autumn picture, tulips and
foxgloves. I am afraid that I can't look at Kincade's work with out looking
for the "goofs".
Cheryl

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Bmciowa

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Aug 28, 2003, 9:50:16 AM8/28/03
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>Give me the Dutch Masters: Rembrandt, Frans Hals, Vermeer. I l-o-v-e
>what they do with light (Kinkade's a piker compared to these guys!).
>Darla

I'd go back even farther. I adore Van Eyck!

Sara
WIPS:Creativity (Just Nan)

aeromom

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Aug 28, 2003, 12:26:42 PM8/28/03
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We had ghost in this house when we first moved in a few years ago. We had
this house built in 1999 on a lot in a new subdivision. So you wouldn't
think there would be any history of hauntings. Soon after we moved in I
became mildly aware of thinking that there was someone above us in the
ceiling. When I was out side in the yard I felt someone looking at me from
the roof. No one there.... I am sensitive to ghosties and goblins so I
didn't get too weirded out about it, just kind of felt that it was odd that
it always seemed to be from 'above' and that this was happening in a new
home. This continued for a few months. Then one day we talked to our builder
and he told us that the guy who did the roofing on our house had died just
after finishing our house.
Okay, so that's it! I thought when he said that. I had a talk with the
'roofer' soon after that when I was here in house by myself. To the effect
that, this is our house and you are freaking me out, please, go away. No
more trouble after that.
aeromom

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Pat Porter

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Aug 28, 2003, 2:04:16 PM8/28/03
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Actually I didn`t mean "This" house and garden - I was speaking of the one
at Athelhampton house in Dorset. Nonetheless we`ve BOTH seen our little
black/white cavalier King Charles who died last November - she just walks
past the livingroom door every so often. We love it.

We had a ghost at our last house, which was only just over 100 years old.
We later saw her photo at an exhibition at the village hall. She lived
there for many years until her husband died, and as it was a tied cottage
she had to move out. We didn`t mind her either - she just startled people
from time to time.

What a fascinating story about your roofer, though. Another illustratuion
of the "Stone tapes" theory, I should think.

Pat P.

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Pat Porter

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Our black-headed gulls are only about half the size of a herring gull - if
that. They breed `em big over there, obviously!

Pat P.

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> On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 08:44:20 +0100, "Pat Porter"
> <pat.p...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> >Oh Darla - I agree with you there. Kinkade is lovely for turning into
cross
> >stitch, but as paintings he`s far too "pretty pretty" for me. No bird
would
> >ever dare poop on one of HIS houses! Neither would any dust dare to
settle!
> >
> >Pat P
>

> Talking of birds pooping. My neighbour (not my good old neighbour)
> recently bought an $80,000 speed boat. He doesn't know squat about
> boats and is daily charging off to sea totally relying on GPS, an
> accident waiting to happen, hope it is not my son who has to rescue
> such an idiot.
>
> However, daily I get a smile because the huge, black backed gulls have
> decided to perch on his boat. They are twice the size of a herring
> gull and so are the deposits they leave all over the smart red
> coverings.
>
> I know it is not nice to gaze out the window and smile about this, but
> I do!
>
> Sheena

Pat Porter

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I`m with you Sara - I love him too!

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Pat Porter

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I`m with you Sara - I love him too!

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Pat Porter

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That`s not "Goofs" Cheryl - it`s "Artistic licence!!!" ;-))

Pat P

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Dawne Peterson

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"Bmciowa" wrote .

>
> I'd go back even farther. I adore Van Eyck!

Rogier van der Weyden is a favourite of mine. Later, Holbein. And the
Scot Alan Ramsay. The ability to observe the human spirit is I think the
common link with these.
Dawne


Mirjam Bruck-Cohen

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Aug 28, 2003, 4:44:01 PM8/28/03
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If you want to understand it , fill a tub with water , situate it in a
dark room with only some light coming through a hole or groove letting
light come in ,,, now play with the water make little waves, in your
tub ,,,, you might learn a lot about how and why light was understood
by them. I remember long nights in Amsterdam [ as a child] sleeping in
a drakened room , where the window looked on a canal , and i vividly
remember the way the night lights [moon lamps cars] would break on
the water and play on my wall. There is nothing like growing up near a
canal with water that teaches you about Light..
mirjam

Walker Family

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Aug 28, 2003, 4:56:13 PM8/28/03
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>It's too hard to come up with a best liked or most disliked. Like
>Dawne, I love Beryl Cook - she really SEES people and brings them to
>you. But then again, I love Klee, Monet - oh too many to mention. I
>Sheena
It was a pleasure to see someone else enjoying the Beryl Cook
paintings. She isn't as widely known as I think she should be.
Recently, I ordered a book that reprinted most of her smaller books so
I have them all in once place. It is great for perking me up after a
frustrating day. Moni

Cheryl Isaak

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On 8/28/03 4:56 PM, in article fvqskvckcla246ug5...@4ax.com,
"Walker Family" <wal...@midwest.net> wrote:

> Beryl Cook

Hey, I like her Tea in the Garden! that made me smile!
Cheryl

Pat Porter

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Aug 28, 2003, 8:54:33 PM8/28/03
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We have greater and lesser black-backed gulls, probably the same breed as
yours.. Our black-HEADED gulls aren`t all that big, and their heads are
white in winter, apart from a small black or dark chocolate bar near the
eye. The greater black-backed gulls are pretty enormous, and very handsome.

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> On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 19:05:46 +0100, "Pat Porter"
> <pat.p...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> >Our black-headed gulls are only about half the size of a herring gull -
if
> >that. They breed `em big over there, obviously!
> >
> >Pat P.
>

> These are black on the back entirely, not just the heads. Their wing
> span is probably five foot in the adult bird. They are the biggest of
> our gull varieties. They are as big as the ospreys (fish eagles the
> locals call them) and more solid, not as graceful.
>
> The parent ospreys have the babies on the wing now and are teaching
> them to fish for themselves. This involves much crying to each other
> but since the babies need 8lbs of fish a day on the nest, it must be a
> relief for the parents to get them catching their own fish!
>
> Sheena

Pat Porter

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Aug 28, 2003, 8:55:32 PM8/28/03
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I love Farqueharson and his sheep pictures.

Pat P.

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Darla

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On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 08:44:20 +0100, "Pat Porter"
<pat.p...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>Oh Darla - I agree with you there. Kinkade is lovely for turning into cross
>stitch, but as paintings he`s far too "pretty pretty" for me. No bird would
>ever dare poop on one of HIS houses! Neither would any dust dare to settle!
>
>Pat P

ROFLMAOAPIMP Pat!! There's a new building in a nearby community with
long white-painted "decor" hanging down from the roof on at least two
sides (I seldom see either of the other two sides, so I can't speak
for those). Every time I see this building I can't help but think of
seagulls. Because that's exactly what it looks like: bird doo in
paths down the side of the building.

When The Revolution comes, architects will be among the first against
the wall.

Pat Porter

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The ghost ape isn`t on tv (only mentioned as part of a programme about
haunted houses) It`s a "real live" haaunting! LOL!

Next time you`re down that way, (IF you`re ever down that way!) call in at
Athelhampton House in Dorset and check it out for me!

Pat P

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> Now Dawne - you know I am the weirdo who does not watch television or
> most movies - so no - I have never had the opportunity to watch a
> ghost ape lol Now I am wondering, should I feel deprived, is


> something in my life missing that I have not seen one ? Do tell -
> what is a ghost ape?
>

> Sheena


Pat Porter

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> I might just have to fit in a trip down to Devon, so I would. Remind
> me at the time. It looks like I will be over in January/February
> rather than March - so brag on about having daffs to show me!
>
> Sheena

Already thought of that, and am looking for early flowering ones just to
upset you! Mind you, January`s asking a bit much to expect daffodils, even
for here! My Lady Clare Cammellia just outside the kitchen door, should be
showing off though.

Pat P


Pat Porter

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<Lucreti...@florence.it> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 14:55:32 +0100, "Pat Porter"
> I'll take the camelia, way before daffodils. I like 'a cloud' of
> daffs and have them in the grass on the hill that way here, but
> camelia's can't handle our winters. Not yet, but I bet they are
> working on it. We have some nice hellebores now.

Lady Clare`s a really blowsy old tart - flops and loses her clothes all over
the place and makes a real mess. The pup loved chewing the leaves (as well
as picking the flowers) last Spring, and we always knew, as she went
completely bonkers for a while - we hadn`t realised that being a member of
the "Tea" family, they`re really high in caffeine. Hence one balmy pup! I
wish I`d managed to get a picture of her clutching a huge pink camellia
between her teeth, though!

Pat P.


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