Johanna
I couldn't find anything definitive, but if it's true, it wouldn't be the 
first time and they emerged from it okay.  Let's hope that will happen 
again.
Lucille
It is true, mostly! Here is a news link from reuters.
http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssConsumerGoodsAndRetailNews/idUSL2992875220080429
Gill
I do hope they can survive this and emerge victorious.
  Let's get after them to dump all their clothing and other holdings and 
leave our needlework stuff alone.  Do you think they would listen to us???? 
lol 
Parlez vous francais, ma petite choux??
Probably the only way they would listen. Hopefully they can restructure; 
I think this happened before. The dyeing plant in the USA was closed 
down a couple of years back.
G
> Parlez vous francais, ma petite choux??
J'en parle assez pour savoir que c'est "mon petit chou."
Elizabeth  (my leetle cream puff)
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Not enough to write anything more complicated then your sentence, but Sheena 
speaks French fluently, doesn't she?
>
> Probably the only way they would listen. Hopefully they can restructure; I 
> think this happened before. The dyeing plant in the USA was closed down a 
> couple of years back.
>
I did see something about them having filed for bankruptcy in the 90's and 
emerging in 1997.
Funny timing.  I just filled in all my missing colors when I recently set up 
the bobbin storage.  Up until then I was missing a few of the colors that I 
don't much like and avoid using.
L
Dr. Brat wrote:
> Gill Murray wrote:
> 
> 
>> Parlez vous francais, ma petite choux??
> 
> 
> J'en parle assez pour savoir que c'est "mon petit chou."
> 
> Elizabeth  (my leetle cream puff)
Well, it IS 56 years since my last French lesson!!
Gill
It looked fine to me !!!   Possibly that's because I took Spanish in High 
School and learned my 5 words of French in books.  :*)) 
> I do hope they can survive this and emerge victorious.
> 
>   Let's get after them to dump all their clothing and other holdings and 
> leave our needlework stuff alone.  Do you think they would listen to us???? 
> lol 
> 
What clothing line?  I know they had pillows, bags and various items for 
embroidery (their Linea line) which I loved but didn't catch on here in 
America.  Stencils, wonderful color combinations, easy pearl cotton 
which works up quickly . . . all a beginner would want and be avante 
garde.  It went very well in Europe.
It doesn't help that predator chain stores refuse to stock their floss 
and the Linea line.  I tried finding the latter in stores and it was 
sparse pickings.  No wonder it didn't catch on.  It wasn't given a 
proper chance.
Dianne
-- 
Embroidery Discussions at http://www.heritageshoppe.com/smf
The Parent Company in France owns several sportswear companies.  The 
Creative World Division that has to do with the needlework is one of several 
divisions of the company
You can see a mention in the article Gill posted: 
http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssConsumerGoodsAndRetailNews/idUSL2992875220080429
Personally I didn't love the Linea line, but I did buy a bag for a friend 
who wanted to try embroidery.  As you say, it was a very good learning 
piece.
Lucille.
> 
> Not enough to write anything more complicated then your sentence, but Sheena 
> speaks French fluently, doesn't she?
Sheena's not here anymore. Am I really the only one who's noticed?
Elizabeth
Wow! That's a scary, scary thought! Nightmare material, actually!
Speaking of which,  I had the most bizarre dream the other night.  I
dreamed there were a few people at my church with me and we were re-
skeining this *huge*, like 3' high, pile of floss!  I have no idea
where it came from or what we were going to do with it.  I could
understand it if I'd had this dream after sending Karen the rayons,
many of which I re-skeined, but now, a year later???  Weird, huh?
Joan
ROTFLMAO! That was *sharp* Elizabeth! 'Cream puff'! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
Ma petite éclair chocolat! LOL! Hiccup!
-- 
Trish {|:-} Newcastle, NSW, Australia
Trish Brown wrote:
> Dr. Brat wrote:
> 
>> Gill Murray wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Parlez vous francais, ma petite choux??
>>
>>
>> J'en parle assez pour savoir que c'est "mon petit chou."
>>
>> Elizabeth  (my leetle cream puff)
> 
> 
> ROTFLMAO! That was *sharp* Elizabeth! 'Cream puff'! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
> 
> Ma petite éclair chocolat! LOL! Hiccup!
> 
Ok, all you smartypants..you can quit this picking on an old lady!!
gill
I wasn't, I swear (well, ok, maybe a little).  Everyone thinks chou 
means cabbage, but it actually refers to a kind of pastry.  Cream puff 
pastry.  Really.
Elizabeth
Dr. Brat wrote:
> Gill Murray wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>> Trish Brown wrote:
>>
>>> Dr. Brat wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gill Murray wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Parlez vous francais, ma petite choux??
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> J'en parle assez pour savoir que c'est "mon petit chou."
>>>>
>>>> Elizabeth  (my leetle cream puff)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ROTFLMAO! That was *sharp* Elizabeth! 'Cream puff'! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
>>>
>>> Ma petite éclair chocolat! LOL! Hiccup!
>>>
>> Ok, all you smartypants..you can quit this picking on an old lady!!
> 
> 
> I wasn't, I swear (well, ok, maybe a little).  Everyone thinks chou 
> means cabbage, but it actually refers to a kind of pastry.  Cream puff 
> pastry.  Really.
> 
> Elizabeth
Actually, I knew about chou pastry, have made it for crab 
puffs.............mind and fingers didn't connect!
Gill
No, not "cream puff". She called Lucille a CABBAGE!
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> how would I 
> explain THAT purchase to DH?!?
> MelissaD
"insurance"
He wouldn't want you to be left with all this stuff you can't finish 
because you can't get floss, would he?
That's what I thought it said-- my little cabbage,  but I'm pretty much 
French language impaired  and figured I must be wrong.  Or maybe there's 
another meaning to the phrase that I don't know.
Lucille
Hee! Since I always get the two mixed up, I play it safe and say 'Ma 
petite sprout de bruxelles' instead. Isn't choux pastry hard to do? I 
remember trying to make chocolate éclairs once and they had the texture 
of ready-mix concrete. I can make decent enough shortcrust pastry, but 
use the frozen stuff for most other purposes.
Oh - and I didn't know you were 'old' - I figured you were about my age, 
which is only *bordering* on 'old'. Didn't mean to pick on you, Gill! ;-D
NB. Erm... how'd you make the crab puffs????
It was just a typo. 'Chou' is cabbage and 'choux' is the pastry (choux 
pastry - the sort you use to make profiteroles and chocolate éclairs and 
stuff). I wouldn't have picked it up, but I did think it was funny when 
Elizabeth said 'my leetle cream puff'. In fact, starting with the 
vegetable motif, it's amazing what you can call people! I'm calling my 
kids 'My little rutabaga' or 'My litte summer squish - I mean squash' 
all the time.
Speakin' of typos: does anyone else find their fingers type things they 
never meant to write? I caught myself typing 'there' instead of 'their' 
the other day!!! I swear it was my fingers and not my brane that did 
that! Another time, I caught myself typing 'it's' instead of 'its' and 
*that's* one of my pet peeves. Nearly died, I did. I wonder if I'm going 
soft innner head?
Considering that a lot of LNS stopped carrying DMC floss because their 
purchasing price was higher than Golly-Mart's selling price who should be 
surprised?? Realistic retail price for a skein of DMC should be $1.20+ a 
skein not 4 skeins for a $1.
Don't hold your breath thinking DMC floss will return with gusto, IMHO your 
color could change to DMC 798.
and y'all ain't seen nothing yet. It is going to get a lot worse before it 
gets better.
Fred - who supports the small shops and refuses to deal with the big box 
predators.
http://www.stitchaway.com
If nothing changes, nothing changes.
Don't back stitch to email, just stitchit.
I DID intend choux,cabbage, that is how we said it across the pond!
G
> Isn't choux pastry hard to do?
	It's not really that hard if you have a recipe
that explains the technique well.  It's not finicky, but
you do have to follow the process.
Best wishes,
Ericka
> Gill Murray wrote:
> 
> 
>> Parlez vous francais, ma petite choux??
> 
> J'en parle assez pour savoir que c'est "mon petit chou."
> 
> Elizabeth  (my leetle cream puff)
Or isn't that "my leetle cabbage"
ellice
> Gill Murray wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Trish Brown wrote:
>> 
>>> Dr. Brat wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Gill Murray wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Parlez vous francais, ma petite choux??
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> J'en parle assez pour savoir que c'est "mon petit chou."
>>>> 
>>>> Elizabeth  (my leetle cream puff)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ROTFLMAO! That was *sharp* Elizabeth! 'Cream puff'! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
>>> 
>>> Ma petite éclair chocolat! LOL! Hiccup!
>>> 
>> Ok, all you smartypants..you can quit this picking on an old lady!!
> 
> I wasn't, I swear (well, ok, maybe a little).  Everyone thinks chou
> means cabbage, but it actually refers to a kind of pastry.  Cream puff
> pastry.  Really.
> 
> Elizabeth
Yes, but I found that when working there and I had the French baeu (in the
early 90s) (or as he would put it, mon mec Michel or mon cher ami) when
using the term "petit chou" much laughter would ensue, as the modern
interpretation was more towards "hah, hah - my little cabbage" not in the
Maurice Chevalier "my little creampuff" way.  Of course, the French do love
their puns, hence all the hotels name "Le Lion d'Or" (the golden lion which
in French sounds just like "Le lit en dor" the golden bed), and Jerry Lewis.
ellice
> Lucille wrote:
>> "Karen C in California" <KMC...@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:67q4uiF...@mid.individual.net...
>>> Dr. Brat wrote:
>>>> Gill Murray wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Parlez vous francais, ma petite choux??
>>>> 
>>>> J'en parle assez pour savoir que c'est "mon petit chou."
>>>> 
>>>> Elizabeth  (my leetle cream puff)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> No, not "cream puff".  She called Lucille a CABBAGE!
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Karen C - California
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> That's what I thought it said-- my little cabbage,  but I'm pretty much
>> French language impaired  and figured I must be wrong.  Or maybe there's
>> another meaning to the phrase that I don't know.
>> 
>> Lucille 
>> 
>> 
> 
> It was just a typo. 'Chou' is cabbage and 'choux' is the pastry (choux
> pastry - the sort you use to make profiteroles and chocolate éclairs and
> stuff). I wouldn't have picked it up, but I did think it was funny when
> Elizabeth said 'my leetle cream puff'. In fact, starting with the
> vegetable motif, it's amazing what you can call people! I'm calling my
> kids 'My little rutabaga' or 'My litte summer squish - I mean squash'
> all the time.
Since this is a needlework thread - I'm throwing some French needlework in.
We just got in a bunch of charts from "Lili Point" - ordered from the online
NW show.  It is absolutely ADORABLE!  Not ridiculously expensive - I think
that most of the charts are about $12.  They are just tooo cute. Though,
definitely reminding me of the décor in my friends' homes in France.  There
is a marriage piece that we got - and it actually came with the linen
banding.  The reindeer one has ribbon in it.  Very cute.  Some of the charts
are vegetables, fruit, etc. We liked them so much, seems we'll order more!
http://www.lilipoints.com/nouveauus.html
> 
> Speakin' of typos: does anyone else find their fingers type things they
> never meant to write? I caught myself typing 'there' instead of 'their'
> the other day!!! I swear it was my fingers and not my brane that did
> that! Another time, I caught myself typing 'it's' instead of 'its' and
> *that's* one of my pet peeves. Nearly died, I did. I wonder if I'm going
> soft innner head?
Just thinking out of synch with the typing. I think it's a common phenom.
Ellice
You forgot to add that you need very strong wrists to mix and mix and mix 
the dough as it's coming together.  My arm would begin to give out just at 
the crucial moment and my dh usually had to come to my rescue.
Lucille
Just so you know it, I don't mind being called a little cabbage.  I think in 
this terrible economy the price of a cabbage might be worth more then 
diamonds, so I take it as a compliment.
Lucille
I'm delighted to hear that you support the small shop.  Now would you like 
to move to this area and open one so I can buy from your LNS.
Lucille
>
>
>
>
> 
> Dr. Brat wrote:
> 
>> Gill Murray wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Parlez vous francais, ma petite choux??
>>
>>
>>
>> J'en parle assez pour savoir que c'est "mon petit chou."
>>
>> Elizabeth  (my leetle cream puff)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> No, not "cream puff".  She called Lucille a CABBAGE!
> 
No, she did not. Chou refers to chou pastry. She called her a cream puff.
> It was just a typo. 'Chou' is cabbage and 'choux' is the pastry (choux 
> pastry - the sort you use to make profiteroles and chocolate éclairs and 
> stuff). 
It actually wasn't a typo at all.  Choux is plural.  I was referring to 
one cream puff.  So "chou" was correct.  It may be called choux pastry 
in English, but chou a la creme can be just one.
Can be, but can also be my leetle cream puff, which is far more 
romantic, don't you think?  Classic translation, of course, is "sweetheart."
> Yes, but I found that when working there and I had the French baeu (in the
> early 90s) (or as he would put it, mon mec Michel or mon cher ami) when
> using the term "petit chou" much laughter would ensue, as the modern
> interpretation was more towards "hah, hah - my little cabbage" not in the
> Maurice Chevalier "my little creampuff" way.  Of course, the French do love
> their puns, hence all the hotels name "Le Lion d'Or" (the golden lion which
> in French sounds just like "Le lit en dor" the golden bed), and Jerry Lewis.
Exactly.  The French love a good double entendre and the fact is that 
chou refers to cabbage and cream puffs, so whose to say what your "petit 
ami" was really calling you?
Elizabeth (2 years of high school in Brussels)
You went soft maaaany moons ago!  I can tell you exactly when, too!
It was the day you (incorrectly) decided ratznmeece would be good
pets!!!!!!
Joan (r,d,h!)
<SNIP>
> 
> Hee! Since I always get the two mixed up, I play it safe and say 'Ma 
> petite sprout de bruxelles' instead. Isn't choux pastry hard to do? I 
> remember trying to make chocolate éclairs once and they had the texture 
> of ready-mix concrete. I can make decent enough shortcrust pastry, but 
> use the frozen stuff for most other purposes.
> 
> Oh - and I didn't know you were 'old' - I figured you were about my age, 
> which is only *bordering* on 'old'. Didn't mean to pick on you, Gill! ;-D
> 
> NB. Erm... how'd you make the crab puffs????
> 
Hi Trish:
Actually, choux paste is one of the easiest of the pastries to make - 
much easier than puff pastry which requires patience, cold hands, lots 
of butter, and multiple foldings.  Even a lot of experts recommend 
buying frozen puff pastry.
Choux paste is just water, flour, eggs, butter and salt.
The following is from one of my well-used cookbooks
1 cup boiling water
1/2 cup butter
1/4 tsp salt
1 cup sifted all-purpose flour
4 eggs
Add butter to boiling water, return to boil, add salt
Add flour all at once, stir over heat until smooth, cook until mixture 
leaves sides of pot (about 1 minute) - do not overcook
Cool slightly, add unbeaten eggs one at a time, beat after each 
addition, beat until mixture is glossy
Chill (mixture should hold its shape)
If making cream puff - drop by spoonful onto ungreased baking sheet
If making eclairs, use piping bag or make log shapes.
(For large puff - use golf ball size balls, for small puff use walnut 
sized balls)
Bake at 420F for 10 minutes, reduce temp to 375F and bake (20-40 
minutes) until puffs have turned light brown.  Do not open oven door 
during first 20 minutes
Turn off oven, remove puff and cut a slit in each one to release steam. 
Return to oven for 10 minutes.
I made butter tarts on the weekend, maybe I should make a batch of cram 
puffs.
MargW
Really???  I think puff pastry is one of the easiest, tastiest
desserts possible!  I made a bunch for Easter dinner and had chocolate
and butterscotch pudding and whipped cream (real, of course!) so
people could make their own.  You must try them again, Trish!
Joan
> Hee! Since I always get the two mixed up, I play it safe and say 'Ma 
> petite sprout de bruxelles' instead. 
*snort*  It's "chou de bruxelles" and it's still masculine.  If you're 
going to insist on the feminine, it's "choute"
I have to admit to being tempted by the "Lucky Charms" sampler. (yep, has a
ladybug.C
Could it be that WalMart doing away with the needlework supplies has
caused a ripple over at DMC?  If you consider how many stores are in
the US, the amount Wally's used to buy must have been enormous.  I'm
starting to feel justified and/or relieved for having multiple
complete sets of floss!!  Moni
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Fair dinkum!? I never knew that! My recipe books say 'choux' for pastry 
and my French texts say 'chou' for cabbage, however I didn't look far 
enough to deal with plurals. Blow me down and a half! I keep meaning to 
sit down and brush up me French, but of course I never do. I think it 
needs Another Person with whom to do the conversation bit.
Makes me mad to think how fluent I was at school and how much I've lost 
through lack of practice. I could even do future pluperfect tense and 
subjunctive mood with great ease. Not 'ny more though.
Speaking of double entendres, I remember one day we had had French 
dictation and our fearsome teacher tore strips off a girl because she 
kept saying 'The onion' in response to 'l'agneau'. They sound identical 
in Australian French...
SPLORT!!!!
I'll have you know that Darling Little Diego spent last night in my bed 
(safely in his plastic tank, tucked between the pillows) in order to 
prevent him freezing to death in the sudden cold snap we're having. The 
girls are OK. There's enough of them to huddle together and keep warm. 
No, I'm not about to let Diego room in with them! If I did that, I'd 
have approximately a hundred and fifty Blessed Events within a month!
Poor little Diego is on his own since dear little Ottorino passed away 
and hot water bottles run out of hot around three in the morning. DH is 
going to try and rig up a light bulb for Diego today. ROTFL! I bet this 
is one job he gets done in a hurry! DH was good about it, but I could 
tell he was utterly aghast at the notion of a chilly little mouse coming 
between us in The Biggest Bed in the Whole Wide World.
THANK you! That sounds easy enough. Now, how d'you get the crab in? With 
a syringe? And... ah... s'pose I wanted to insert a drop of chocolate 
for example. How would I do that? Just stick it in the middle of the 
slit or pipe it along the top or...?
Yeah, I'm a groan-up now. I do much better cooking than in the olden 
days of perpetual frying things! LOL! Once, I made a chocolate cake that 
never rose and had the texture of vulcanised rubber. We took it out the 
paddock and played frisbee with it until one of the horses got hold of 
it in his teeth and took off with it. Another time, I made crumpets and 
put too much bicarb in them so that they foamed up and and up and up and 
were more like sponge rubber than crumpets. We played cricket with those...
At least I wasn't afraid to experiment AND I was only a kid. It's 
amazing what you can achieve with a pictorial cookbook and a family to feed.
Fair dink, you are a caution, Elizabeth! I've written all this down and 
have repeated it several times in the hope it sticks. I never heard of 
'choute'! I think I'll stay away from Bruxelles, even in jest. It's 
safer that way. ;->
And speakin' of those blasted sprouts (sounds like 'blast-ended skrewts' 
for those of the Harry Potter persuasion), my DD *loves* them! I can't 
believe this! DH and DS and I find they taste like undiluted sewage but 
DD had them at a friend's place and reckons they're great. I keep a 
little bag of frozen ones just for her and she cooks them herself (I 
can't stand the stench). Bleargh! Kid's not *normal*!
I love veggies and will eat just about anything, but not brussels 
sprouts (gonna call 'em blast-ended skrewts from now on)!
> 
> Fair dink, you are a caution, Elizabeth! 
French I can handle.  Don't know about Austrailian.  Will someone tell 
me if this is a compliment?  LOL!
> I'll have you know that Darling Little Diego spent last night in my bed
One word:  EEEEWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!
Or is that a sentiment?
J
Hi Trish
I just cut a slit in the puff or even cut them right in half  You can 
pull out some of the interior pastry to make more room for the filling. 
   I've used ham salad to fill them for a brunch buffet.  That's the 
nice thing about choux paste, you can use it for sweet or savoury fillings.
Giggle - I just noticed the typo in my original message - 'cram' puffs 
indeed.
I'd love to have your recipe for crab filling.  (Did I tell you we were 
in Maryland last weekend, and had lump  crab cakes?  Yummmmmy)
One of these days I'll post my recipe for butter tarts(very similar to 
pecan tarts).
MargW
I find the problem with brussel sprouts is that most people over cook 
them.  The trick to get them to cook quickly and not go to gray mush is 
to cut an X in the base, so the hard end cooks as quickly as the rest of 
the sprout.  Serve with a little butter and lemon juice - superb.  Hmmm 
- roast beef, garlic mashed potatoes, brussel sprouts - I may just have 
figured out what I want to cook for Sunday dinner.
margW
Not Trish, but I lived in Maryland for 15 years. I made the "puffs", and 
when cool split them in 2/3rds. The big hole was filled with a mixture 
of crabmeat ( the real thing of couse), a very little finely chopped 
celery, some mayo to hold it together, and the true Marylanders secret 
ingredient...Old Bay Seasoning. After stuffing the big bits, I sat the 
small piece on top as a hat. (DD's MIL puts Old bay in everything, 
including {otato salad..another story).
When we left Maryland in 1993, the price of crab, though not cheap, was 
affordable. Now...well it is totally outrageous. In 1985 or so, we would 
pay $30 a bushel of males, and had a Cootie Crabfeast at the VFW. Last 
time I was there $30 would buy very few crabs!
Gillian
I used to make little minis to serve as hors d'ouerves (how is that 
spelled?) and fill them with shrimp salad.
 Just chopped shrimp, mayo, a little onion and lemon juice.  My guests 
gobbled them up.
Lucille
> When we left Maryland in 1993, the price of crab, though not cheap, was 
> affordable. Now...well it is totally outrageous. In 1985 or so, we would 
> pay $30 a bushel of males, and had a Cootie Crabfeast at the VFW. Last 
> time I was there $30 would buy very few crabs!
Crabs are not really affordable these days, and they're talking about 
limiting the harvests in order to protect the critters, so I expect the 
price will go even higher this year. Sadly, it also means the watermen 
will be badly hurt economically. We're not big crab-eaters, and last I 
heard it was near the $100/bushel mark. I wait for it to go 1/2 price at 
the supermarket and then stock up. The pasteurized crabmeat has a 
looooong shelf life in the frige. (Half price makes it $12-15 for 12-16 
oz., depending on the brand and time of year.)
Our local gourmet supermarket has crab soup every Friday, and last 
Friday I succumbed - it was a perfect soup day, and I  enjoyed every 
last drop!
(One year a big container of homemade crab soup was the Christmas gift 
for each of the SILs. They loved it!)
And, hey, here they even put Old Bay on potato chips!
Sue in Baltimore
-- 
Susan Hartman/Dirty Linen
The Magazine of Folk and World Music
www.dirtylinen.com
> 
> I find the problem with brussel sprouts is that most people over cook 
> them.  The trick to get them to cook quickly and not go to gray mush is 
> to cut an X in the base, so the hard end cooks as quickly as the rest of 
> the sprout.  Serve with a little butter and lemon juice - superb.  Hmmm 
> - roast beef, garlic mashed potatoes, brussel sprouts - I may just have 
> figured out what I want to cook for Sunday dinner.
> 
> margW
*I* find the problem with brussels sprouts is the bl**dy awful flavour! 
I don't care how y'cook 'em: they taste like something out of the 
primaeval slime! Plerk!
Since DH and DD will be away for a Scouting weekend, DS and I will 
probably be having baked beans on toast for Sunday dinner. Yum!
You just haven't seen his dear little teddy-bear face! He's just the 
cutest little sausage you ever did see and he *whiffles* at people when 
he's happy! Irresistable!
Of course, silly! If I wanted to *not* compliment you, I'd've called you 
a galah. But then... even 'galah' can be complimentary if said with the 
proper inflection.
'Fair dink' is short for 'fair dinkum' which is just a thing that we've 
always said here in N'cle. Well, since I was a kid, anyway. It's a 
utilitarian sort of thing to say. It can mean anything from 'Bl**dy 
h*ll!' to 'You bl**dy idiot!' to 'What a bl**dy shame!' to 'How'd'ja 
bl**dy do?' to 'You don't bl**dy say?' to 'Where the bl**dy h*ll are ya?'
See what I mean? It's sort of a watered-down alternative to the Great 
Australian Adjective. Used affectionately, it's a nice thing to say. 
Used with a string of expletives, it's not. See?
Just discussing this with DH and he pointed out that the current 
generation of Australians don't generally use it. Must be a feature of 
old coots and codgers like DH and me.
Oh. And 'a caution' is 'a smart person' or 'a clever little girl'. Me 
Nanna used to say it to me all the time when I was little and it's stuck.
> Fred - who supports the small shops and refuses to deal with the big box
> predators.http://www.stitchaway.com
> If nothing changes, nothing changes.
> Don't back stitch to email, just stitchit.
Cotton just as Rice are Water and Work consuming products, And they
Rise in prices all over the world now.
mirjam
It'd be more like 'spraout', I think. Imagine Eliza Doolittle in the 
beginning of 'My Fair Lady' and then flatten the vowels even further and 
add a distinct nasal overtone. Or undertone.
LOL! Our first French teacher was a *fearsome* little nun who lined us 
up in ranks and made us go 'Tu! Tu! Tu!' for five minutes at the 
beginning of each lesson. This went on for four years and I don't think 
a single one of us ever learned not to say 'Tew!' instead of 'Tu!'
This fearsome little nun was the most *beeootiful* embroiderer and 
tatter: she made a stunningly lovely ivory silk trousseau for her niece 
and then, a few years later, made an equally stunning carved wooden 
cradle for the same niece's first baby!
Remember the Manhattan Transfer song, 'Chanson d'Amour'? That was 'Chong 
Songer Moo'. The Beatles, song 'Michelle' went 'Michelle, ma belle song 
laymow key vong tray beng ongsong, tray beng ongong'. LOLOLOL! Oz 
doesn't go very well with Frongsay, I'm afraid.
Good thing about it all, though, was that we were introduced to the 
works of the *amazing* Moroccan singer, Frida Boccara and she remains a 
favourite of mine to this day. Sadly, she died very young, but her 
daughter keeps her memory alive and her albums are still hot sellers.
One last memory of French classes. When we sat for matric. our teacher 
was a Belgian lady called 'Madame 'ocking'. She was an older lady, in 
her sixties while the rest of our teachers were mostly in their twenties 
and thirties. The interesting thing about her was that she wore her hair 
every single day in a sort of tumour on top of her head. Around the 
tumour was tied a black velvet ribbon bow with a real diamond in it! 
Whenever Madame went anywhere, you would see the black velvet bow 
bobbing along cheerfully and the light glinting merrily off the diamond.
Of course, we came up with a zillion plans for the removal of the tumour 
and the abduction of the diamond, but AFAIK, Madame was buried with her 
tumour and her diamond intact. No-one ever saw her without them and we 
all wondered what M. 'ocking thought of the whole situation. Perhaps the 
tumour was, in fact, a cache of illicit diamonds being carefully 
husbanded by Madame against their retirement? Perhaps M. 'ocking 
*forced* Madame into the diamond trade against her will? Perhaps the 
tumour was a radio tracking device so that he would know where Madame 
was at all times? Who can say? But it sure gave us a lot to suppose 
about back when we were girls...
I find when myself so pluperfectly tense that I can't sleep, stitching
helps. I need chocolate to deal with my subjunctive moods though! :^)
(what can I say, I'm a dork)
LOL!  I have a similar story...When I was dating then-DBF-now-DH, my
girlfriend and I were at their place (he lived with a couple other
guys) and we decided to make biscuits (our kind, not your cookie-
type).  We put them in the oven.  A while later....."Is something
burning?"  ACK!  Biscuits!   We had gotten a bit preoccupied (no, not
that kind! LOL) and forgot about them.  But it wasn't just our
fault...they failed to mention that the oven is hotter than what it
was set at.  Do you know what a hockey puck looks like?  Yes, that's
our biscuits!!!  Black throughnthrough.   DBF threw one against the
garage wall and it didn't even break!  He even took a picture of them,
which he still has, and brings them up at least once a year!
btw, did said horse eat the cake or just play with it?
Joan
It is WONDERFUL to have you back! I've missed your stories. You had me 
laughing so hard - I could just picture the "tumor"!
Sue
-- 
Susan Hartman/Dirty Linen
The Magazine of Folk and World Music
www.dirtylinen.com
Dear old Clancy. I don't know what he did with it. He took off around 
McClure's corner and we never saw that frisbee - er, cake again. Maybe 
old Mr McClure nicked it for his morning tea?
Thanks, Sue! ;-D
Remember back in the sixties and seventies when people used to pull baby 
girls' hair up into a ponytail on the very apex of their heads? Kids 
looked as though they had a fountain sprouting out of their branes! 
Well, Madame's tumour was a variation on that theme, I think... It 
started as a ponytail but was then bound and nailed down so that it 
looked exactly as though a portion of Madame's head had suddenly erupted 
up in a spherical lump about six inches high. Madame, of course, had 
responded to this phenomenon by capitalising on it! She tied on her 
black velvet ribbon, whacked it into a bow and added M. 'ocking's 
diamond to finish the ensemble.
More recently:
There's a lady who lives down the end of our street who has five boys 
and a little girl, Clare. Clare is in DD's class at school and this 
poor, benighted child has lived its entire life with a tumour on its 
head very similar to the one sported by my Madame. Every morning of her 
life, Clare has her hair scrupulously scraped into a Fountain on top of 
her head by her mother (who clearly doesn't know any better). It wasn't 
so bad when she was younger, because Clare's hair is very pretty and 
silky and the fountain flowed quite nicely down her head. But she's 
recently had her hair cut and now the fountain is stiff and bristly and 
more closely resembles one of those fibre optic lamps (the ones with the 
spray of coloured bristles). *Not* a good look! The thing about 
Fountainhead (that's what the Ugly Sister and I call the hairstyle) is 
that it alters the apparent shape of the kid's head, making it look more 
like a cone! Why would a loving parent want to do that, I wonder?
And then, of course, there's the Peanut-Headed Baby phenomenon!
In this modern era, there is a race of human beings which 
surreptitiously endeavours to form the heads of its offspring into the 
shape of a large peanut. This 'enhancement' is only practiced on 
girl-children, whose baby heads are purposely constricted by the 
addition of an elastic or ribbon band around their tiny, plastic skulls, 
thus setting up ideal conditions to form the desirable constriction 
approximately half-way down the kid's head. Usually a bow or piece of 
phloof is added to same as a 'decoration', but often the band stands 
alone as mute testament to the parent's hidden agenda.
When questioned about the reasons behind this odd desire, the parents 
generally reply that 'Everyone thinks she's a boy. I'm just advertising 
her feminine gender! And besides, it looks pretty!'
This common misconception masks the actual desire of the parents for 
their female offspring to achieve Operant Peanut-Headedness in the 
shortest time possible. The desire is, no doubt, an expression of the 
parent's own Peanut-Head Envy. Maybe not, though... There have been 
cases where a child has been recorded wearing the phloof *without* the 
associated Peanut Constrictor. The attachment of such isolated phloofs 
can be achieved by gluing or pinning them to the vestigial infant hair. 
These Isolate Phloofs rarely stay in place for long, however, and simply 
fall off in the supermarket (fortunately for the afflicted children).
The phloof, of course, often takes many forms, depending upon the ethnic 
and religious associations of the parent. The simple bow may be 
supplanted by a hunk of fur, marabou, artificial jewels or even plastic 
flowers! As if their baby isn't decorative enough, these parents feel a 
need to add PVC, acrylic or worse, *animal* products for its 
enhancement! And all the time, the baby skull is inexorably being 
compressed into that most desirable of shapes: The Peanut!
The impact of all this upon the millinery industry has yet to be 
quantified and few studies have been done on the aesthetic and 
measurable aspects of the Peanut-Heading race. For example, no studies 
have yet been done to investigate causal relationships between the 
relative elasticity of the Peanut Constrictor and the child's head 
circumference. The addition of phloof may or may not affect the 
development of the child and may or may not have significant 
implications for its own self-fulfilling prophecy. Indeed, the 
heritability of the Peanut-Heading phenomenon has yet to be 
investigated! It may be that entire genealogies of Peanut-Heading women 
exist, passing the trait on to their daughters and grand-daughters.
As an addendum, it must be noted that Peanut-Headedness is rarely 
observed in the adult, although various sub-cultures exist that appear 
to continue the attempt at Operant Peanut-Headedness. The Hippies of the 
1960s, for example, spent approximately a decade wearing bands of 
various compositions around their heads, often adorned with flowers, 
beads or feathers (adult phloof, cf. infantile phloof)
Of course, the implications for further study are enormous! For example, 
what effect, if any, does Operant Peanut-Headedness have upon brain 
capacity? Is there a relationship between the Peanut Constrictor and, 
say, the Alice Band or the elastic headband? What are the religious 
implications? What about the future? And why do perpetrators only choose 
female children as a subject for Operant Peanut-Headedness? Why not add 
little bits of blue phloof to Peanut Constrictors attached to *boy* babies.
The future holds the answers to these questions and more...
> ellice wrote:
> 
>> Yes, but I found that when working there and I had the French baeu (in the
>> early 90s) (or as he would put it, mon mec Michel or mon cher ami) when
>> using the term "petit chou" much laughter would ensue, as the modern
>> interpretation was more towards "hah, hah - my little cabbage" not in the
>> Maurice Chevalier "my little creampuff" way.  Of course, the French do love
>> their puns, hence all the hotels name "Le Lion d'Or" (the golden lion which
>> in French sounds just like "Le lit en dor" the golden bed), and Jerry Lewis.
> 
> Exactly.  The French love a good double entendre and the fact is that
> chou refers to cabbage and cream puffs, so whose to say what your "petit
> ami" was really calling you?
> 
LOL.  Le petit ami, was a widower (sad story, wife killed in car crash when
they were very young, with 2 little kids - IIRC about 2 for the son and 4
for the daughter - he raised them solo) about 10 or so years older than me -
so I was actually closer to the kids in age it seemed.  And got to
practice/learn a lot of French slang - as the kids were in college (like
post high school year) and the other just in university and Michel was a
very youthful 40+.  Hey, everyone needs a French beau if the opportunity
arises - at least for a time.  We lasted about 2+ years, most of the time I
was there, and then long distance for about 9 months (with visits).  Point
being - you're right - they do love puns, and heck, they would laugh a lot
with the translations of "my leetle cabbage" vs "my leetle creampuff" or
"mon petit fill in the blank" .  Heck, there are so many ways to refer to
one's boy/girl friend with different connotations - it can be daunting.  Let
alone how many "petit bisou" are a greeting - age, region, familiarity (not
so much sex) all coming into play.  I just love starting working mornings
with a series of handshakes and petit bisou - and then when my American
colleagues would be over for a meeting - the confusion on their faces as the
locals and I were a bit different (doing 3 generally) as opposed to just a
handshake, or one lonely little kiss hello.  Even funnier when the French
colleague/friends were here for work.
E
> Dr. Brat wrote:
>> Trish Brown wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Hee! Since I always get the two mixed up, I play it safe and say 'Ma
>>> petite sprout de bruxelles' instead.
>> 
>> *snort*  It's "chou de bruxelles" and it's still masculine.  If you're
>> going to insist on the feminine, it's "choute"
>> 
>> Elizabeth
> 
> 
> Fair dink, you are a caution, Elizabeth! I've written all this down and
> have repeated it several times in the hope it sticks. I never heard of
> 'choute'! I think I'll stay away from Bruxelles, even in jest. It's
> safer that way. ;->
> 
> And speakin' of those blasted sprouts (sounds like 'blast-ended skrewts'
> for those of the Harry Potter persuasion), my DD *loves* them! I can't
> believe this! DH and DS and I find they taste like undiluted sewage but
> DD had them at a friend's place and reckons they're great. I keep a
> little bag of frozen ones just for her and she cooks them herself (I
> can't stand the stench). Bleargh! Kid's not *normal*!
Just laughing about this.  I never had them until I was an adult, and now
like them - though not too often.  However, they are one of DH's favorites,
along with asparagus.  And our furry son - Puckster the Springer Spaniel -
has evidently inherited his dad's taste buds.  Yes, boys and girls, our dog
eats Brussels Sprouts.   Pretty weird.  But, we limit them - for fear of any
ill and stinky effects.
> I love veggies and will eat just about anything, but not brussels
> sprouts (gonna call 'em blast-ended skrewts from now on)!
I think my DM felt that way as well.
Ellice
Ut oh, Marg.  You'll start the sprout wars - to X or not to X - that is the
queston.  I have to agree with Sheena, IIRC, depending on size, they can be
done without the X - but generally, I do the X if they're biggish sprouts.
Recently did the roasting on a sheet pan with some olive oil and seasoning
-high heat in oven - very good.
Ellice
And then there is the ridiculous look adopted by parents of a 
bushy-haired child, in which they make a round pouf on either side of 
the top of the head, making the child look like she has Mickey Mouse ears.
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Steam them in a Steamer , no X needed.
mirjam
This was borne out the other week when one of our old friends called on her 
early in the morning when both her hair (and her face) hadn`t yet been 
tightened up for the day, resulting in the passable imitation of a 
bloodhound!
Pat
MMMM- I'm going to have to try that method - sounds wonderful.
MargW
I love sprouts too, never bother with the"X".  Only lightly boiled anyway - 
we like them crunchy.  My ex S.I.L always refers to them as "Fart capsules".
Pat
Hm. Just when I'd cut me bl**dy hair off, too. I'll have to wait a while 
to see whether I can tighten up the old phizz...
Trish, just why are your drinking liquid fertilizer?
Just wondering.....
Jeannette
Los Angeles, CA
Hee! I was testing to prove that it really *does* taste like brussels 
sprouts, wasn't I? Gotta say, the fertiliser won the taste test!
Funny how the duvet always feels lighter after eating sprouts!
Pat
> Dr. Brat wrote:
> 
>> Trish Brown wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Fair dink, you are a caution, Elizabeth! 
>>
>>
>> French I can handle.  Don't know about Austrailian.  Will someone tell 
>> me if this is a compliment?  LOL!
>>
>> Elizabeth
> 
> 
> Of course, silly! If I wanted to *not* compliment you, I'd've called you 
> a galah. But then... even 'galah' can be complimentary if said with the 
> proper inflection.
*snicker* and I'd still have had to ask for a translation! *giggle*
Elizabeth (I'm a caution.  so there!)
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Hmm - wonder if there are any left in the market
C
> An old school friend of ours started doing her hair that way about 25 years
> ago (prior to that she had a very attractive bob which really suited her).
> Most of us were of the opinion that the new hairstyle was just a cheap
> "Face lift".
>
> This was borne out the other week when one of our old friends called on her
> early in the morning when both her hair (and her face) hadn't yet been
> tightened up for the day, resulting in the passable imitation of a
> bloodhound!
>
ROTFLMBO!!! I just rec'd this in my email:
A woman visited her plastic surgeon who told her about a new procedure
called 'The Knob,' where a small knob is placed at the top of the
woman's head and could be turned to tighten up her skin and produce
the effect of a brand new facelift. Of course, the woman wanted ...
'The Knob.'
Over the course of the years, the woman tightened the knob, and the
effects were wonderful, the woman remained young looking and vibrant.
After fifteen years, the woman returned to the surgeon with two
problems. 'All these years, everything has been working just fine.
I've had to turn the knob many times and I've always loved the
results. But now I've developed two annoying problems: First, I have
these terrible bags under my eyes and the knob won't get rid of
them.'
The doctor looked at her closely and said, 'Those aren't bags, those
are your boobs.'
She said, 'Well, I guess there's no point in asking about the
goatee....
Joan
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Aaahh, sorry 'bout that!  I thought leaving Pat's post would be
warning enough! :)
Joan