How much floss?
ckostyn
I bought floss for another project that I am starting. Is there
ANY way of telling just how much to buy? I am doing the
half-cross/needlepoint route for at least one project so there will be
less thread requred, but still... how do you tell how much is
required? Is experience really the only way to be able to tell? I
wound up getting one skien of almost everything, and got 3 of black as
there appears to be a lot of that color in the background of the
pattern. Thoughts anyone? Thanks!
Catherine K.
F.James Cripwell
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Whatever else you may forget,
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Isabella N
bunch.
I get more of the colors I like.
Now, I know that was mostly irrelevant, but the charts I like to do have the
COLORS I like.
If you don't want to start stashing floss, you could get one of each color. On
the DMC labels with the color number, take a good look at it - they have
different dye lots indicated by dots on the label. So if you want to get
another 776, you want to make sure the dye lot matches.
Some charts will indicate how many skeins of each color the chart requires,
aside from that, it's guesswork.
MB
Mavia Beaulieu
Catherine, in case you aren't aware, Jim has been advocating for years
that designers indicate the number of stitches for each symbol for
their designs. He would like to have them at least post this
information on their web sites.
We recently discussed this issue on the newsgroup. A vote gave a
slight edge to those wanting this information but I would think the
results was unreliable. Those not interested in the information
probably didn't bother to vote or express an opinion.
I'm curious, if this information had been available to you, would you
have been able to accurately determine how many skeins of each color
to buy? Would you know how many stitches you could get from a skein of
floss depending on the fabric count and type of stitching you are
doing?
Most designers will indicate if more than one skein of a color is
needed for the average stitcher to complete a project using the same
fabric count and stitching method as the model.
So to answer your question, check to see if more than one skein is
indicated for each color, other than that experience is your best
guide.
BTW, what is the project that you are doing?
happy stitchin'
Mavia
"F.James Cripwell" wrote:
>
> Oh well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> ckostyn (cko...@worldnet.att.net) writes:
F.James Cripwell
>(snip)
> the DMC labels with the color number, take a good look at it - they have
> different dye lots indicated by dots on the label. So if you want to get
> another 776, you want to make sure the dye lot matches.
> MB
Please be careful with this one; I dont think the information is
quite accurate. As I understand it, DMC puts dye lot numbers on the boxes
it uses to deliver floss to retailers. But dye lot numbers do *not*
appear on the label.
What the dots on the label refer to is something entirely different.
Some years ago, DMC changed the dye formulations of certain colors; I
remember DMC 414 was such a one. Since they were using the same number
for floss that was in fact different shades, they put dots on the label to
distinguish between them.
The only way I am aware of, to ensure you get the same dye lot number
from DMC, is to purchase enough floss to finish the project when you make
your initial purchase. A year or so ago, I needed 27 skeins of black
(DMC 310). I made sure my LNS got me the skeins all from the same dye lot.
ckostyn
<ma...@accesscable.net> scribed:
\\>ROFL!!! :-))) I think we were all waiting for that! LOL
\\>
\\>Catherine, in case you aren't aware, Jim has been advocating for
years
\\>that designers indicate the number of stitches for each symbol for
\\>their designs. He would like to have them at least post this
\\>information on their web sites.
That explains his rather cryptic reply :)
\\>
\\>I'm curious, if this information had been available to you, would
you
\\>have been able to accurately determine how many skeins of each
color
\\>to buy? Would you know how many stitches you could get from a skein
of
\\>floss depending on the fabric count and type of stitching you are
\\>doing?
Not exactly, but I could have probably been better able to guess as to
the colors that I needed a LOT or very little of :)
I like the idea of just stashing colors, but I don't really have any
place to store the extras, not yet at least.
\\>
\\>So to answer your question, check to see if more than one skein is
\\>indicated for each color, other than that experience is your best
\\>guide.
There is no indication whatsoever, either on the website OR on the
pattern. I have the chart. I have the list of symbols and DMC numbers.
That is all that I have, though I am really looking foward to
completing this.
\\>
\\>BTW, what is the project that you are doing?
Go here http://www.solaria.online.bg/gobelins/index.html click on
Religious Designs, then scroll down until you find the Blessing
Christ. Fantastic pattern, and very, very detailed. I really do like
the pattern, 10/10 grided b/w symbols. The more detailed smaller
sections (like his face, etc) gets an entire other page devoted to
just that feature and it is on a smaller scale grid so that you can
see the detail even better. They have lots of charts that are not
religious, they have assorted adaptations from what appears to be
Romantic era artworks, etc. The site is in Bulgaria, and I do wish
that they had more actual Eastern European charts than they do.
For some reason the chart is playing with my eyes however, and I don't
understand it.
The symbols are larger and easier to see than what I am accustomed to,
which might be what is causing the problem. I really like the chart
however, and my eyes will surely settle down in another day or so (I
keep loosing my place- more often than usual, and a little bit of eye
strain).
Catherine K.
F.James Cripwell
>(snip)
> pattern. I have the chart. I have the list of symbols and DMC numbers.
> That is all that I have, though I am really looking foward to
> completing this.
>
> \\>
> \\>BTW, what is the project that you are doing?
>
> Go here http://www.solaria.online.bg/gobelins/index.html click on
> Religious Designs, then scroll down until you find the Blessing
> Christ. Fantastic pattern, and very, very detailed. I really do like
> the pattern, 10/10 grided b/w symbols. The more detailed smaller
> sections (like his face, etc) gets an entire other page devoted to
> just that feature and it is on a smaller scale grid so that you can
> see the detail even better. They have lots of charts that are not
> religious, they have assorted adaptations from what appears to be
> Romantic era artworks, etc. The site is in Bulgaria, and I do wish
> that they had more actual Eastern European charts than they do.
>
> Catherine K.
I went to the web site, and the patterns look to me like they are
scanned images, and computer produced patterns. If they are, then Solaris
ought to have a symbol count. Why dont you send them an email and ask them?
Mavia Beaulieu
ckostyn wrote:
>
> On Sun, 02 Jun 2002 14:39:57 -0300, Mavia Beaulieu
> <ma...@accesscable.net> scribed:
> \\>BTW, what is the project that you are doing?
>
> Go here http://www.solaria.online.bg/gobelins/index.html click on
> Religious Designs, then scroll down until you find the Blessing
> Christ.
A very detailed design, should look impressive when stitched! What are
you stitching it on and what count are you using.
> For some reason the chart is playing with my eyes however, and I don't
> understand it.
I noticed in their "How to Stitch" section that the detailed charts
are stitched at a ratio of one stitch per one symbol but the main
charts are stitched with a ratio of four stitches per one symbol. I
don't know if this would hurt my eyes but it would certainly do a
number on my brain! :-) BTW Jim has stitched two awesome Maidens from
computer generated charts, but I don't know if they were printed in
this method.
Good luck with this! Please keep us updated on your progress.
happy stitchin'
Mavia
Fred
news:3CFA586D...@accesscable.net...
> ROFL!!! :-))) I think we were all waiting for that! LOL
>
> We recently discussed this issue on the newsgroup. A vote gave a
> slight edge to those wanting this information but I would think the
> results was unreliable. Those not interested in the information
> probably didn't bother to vote or express an opinion.
(1) The vote results show, that of the ballots cast so far, over 70% are in
favor of the stitches/symbols per color numbers being printed on charts.
(2) The reliability of my counting ballots and tabulating the results is as
good as or better than the reliability of ballot counters in the Grand state
of Florida during an election not so long ago. I did not include the number
of spoiled ballots (comments, but neither a Yes or No indicated) as it was
deemed un-necessary. I also had no problems with questionable "chads".
(3) For those not interested enough to bother to vote - As in any democratic
casting of ballots - *Tough Orts!!!!!*
It would therefore seem prudent that designers should take into
consideration the desires of the "majority" and print on their charts, the
stitches/symbols per color numbers used. The "minority" can always establish
a Stitchers Against Printed Stitches/symbols(SAPS) support group and via
peaceful demonstrations, ask the designers for special charts that "do not"
have the stitches/symbols per color numbers used printed on them.
I suspect SAPS will get considerable opposition from the stitchers who
belong to environmental groups that support the stitches/symbols per color
numbers being printed on charts in order to decrease the senseless "over or
under purchasing" of floss.
I'm looking forward to Media coverage of those peaceful demonstrations
should they occur. ROFLMAO.
Give me the number of stitches/symbols per color used and based on MY
stitching habits let me decide how much I need to purchase. - A member of
Stitchers Promoting Improved Full Floss Yields. (SPIFFY).
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Mavia Beaulieu
Thank heavens though really important decisions aren't made on your
idea of a 'majority!' :-)) Your acronyms are pretty neat though!
ROFL!!
happy stitchin'
Mavia
emerald
"ckostyn" <cko...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> I have not bought just charts before, and the other day
> I bought floss for another project that I am starting. Is there
> ANY way of telling just how much to buy?
Catherine,
Jim's idea of e-mailing Solaria is the best solution,IMO. However, if you
don't get a speedy reply, you could try and estimate your potential floss
usage by counting the symbols yourself (!) and using Kathy Dyer's floss
usage estimation from her website:
http://www.dnai.com/~kdyer/faqs/xstitch_tut.html#floss_amt
emerald
ckostyn
<ma...@accesscable.net> scribed:
\\>I noticed in their "How to Stitch" section that the detailed charts
\\>are stitched at a ratio of one stitch per one symbol but the main
\\>charts are stitched with a ratio of four stitches per one symbol. I
\\>don't know if this would hurt my eyes but it would certainly do a
\\>number on my brain! :-) BTW Jim has stitched two awesome Maidens
from
\\>computer generated charts, but I don't know if they were printed in
\\>this method.
\\>
\\>Good luck with this! Please keep us updated on your progress.
OMG, I had forgotten this 1:4 ratio. Oh well, I have only put in a
couple of hours on this, so shouldn't take that long to ribbit......
:) However, looking at this, I am stitching it on 18 pt bone aida
which is actually smaller than doing it over 2 on 28 count as was
suggested so I wonder about doing the entire thing 1:1? It would be
smaller, but would it throw off the proportion of the detail with the
rest of the chart?
BTW, there is a zoomed image on the Jerusalem Theotokos of stitch
detail, beautiful (I have that chart as well). I have tried to make my
own PC Stitch patterns, and I think that it is obvious that they went
to a LOT of work on the two patterns that I bought from them.
Catherine K.
ckostyn
\\>:) However, looking at this, I am stitching it on 18 pt bone aida
\\>which is actually smaller than doing it over 2 on 28 count as was
\\>suggested so I wonder about doing the entire thing 1:1? It would be
\\>smaller, but would it throw off the proportion of the detail with
the
\\>rest of the chart?
I have emailed them to ask about this and the stitch count. I suspect
that the 1:4 really does matter, which is going to really cross my
eyes keeping all of that straight :) Oh well, I have seen one of
their patterns stitched, and it was incredible, especially detail such
as faces, etc.
Would I have taken this on right now if I had realized that? Don't
know, but I REALLY want to do it, so it won't stop me. At least I
don't have to rip out days worth of work. However, if it is one
charted stitch for every 4 stitches, I need to get a LOT more floss!
lolol.
BTW, I am also starting Smokey Mountain Cats next week for my sister's
Christmas present, so I don't have to wonder what I shall be doing
when I am not at work or working on my thesis :)
Catherine K.
MJB5019
>place to store the extras, not yet at least.
You can keep these floss holders on a bookshelf-Binder style floss holders at
herrschners:
Two beige Storage Organizer Binders with 25 storage pages each (total of 50) to
store 450 skeins of floss. Includes pre-numbered index for both DMC and Anchor,
so each pocket of the storage page can be labeled and organized. Also includes
a mauve Project Organizer with four storage pages to tote 36 skeins for use on
your current project. Project Organizer comes with blank index to label pages
with color numbers and chart symbols so you don’t have to continually check
your chart. Also includes a Utensil Pouch for storage of stitching tools,
beads, cards of fibers, etc. This is the ultimate floss storage system! Floss
not included. 14x6x12" H.
LZ320102....$89.99
QTY:
Mj in southern California
Mavia Beaulieu
ckostyn wrote:
>
> On Sun, 02 Jun 2002 18:42:46 -0300, Mavia Beaulieu
> <ma...@accesscable.net> scribed:
>
> \\>I noticed in their "How to Stitch" section that the detailed charts
> \\>are stitched at a ratio of one stitch per one symbol but the main
> \\>charts are stitched with a ratio of four stitches per one symbol. I
> \\>don't know if this would hurt my eyes but it would certainly do a
> \\>number on my brain! :-) BTW Jim has stitched two awesome Maidens
> from
> \\>computer generated charts, but I don't know if they were printed in
> \\>this method.
> \\>
> \\>Good luck with this! Please keep us updated on your progress.
>
> OMG, I had forgotten this 1:4 ratio. Oh well, I have only put in a
> couple of hours on this, so shouldn't take that long to ribbit......
> :) However, looking at this, I am stitching it on 18 pt bone aida
> which is actually smaller than doing it over 2 on 28 count as was
> suggested so I wonder about doing the entire thing 1:1? It would be
> smaller, but would it throw off the proportion of the detail with the
> rest of the chart?
Catherine, I would think stitching four stitches per symbol would be
very confusing at first but maybe once you got used to thinking that
way it wouldn't be too hard. Are you doing this in cross stitch, or,
as you mentioned in your original post, half cross? I don't see how
you could work the main chart 1:1 as it would make it too small for
the detailed parts to fit. I would stitch it as charted.
happy stitchin'
Mavia
Mavia Beaulieu
ckostyn wrote:
>
> Replying to my own post :)
>
> I have emailed them to ask about this and the stitch count. I suspect
> that the 1:4 really does matter, which is going to really cross my
> eyes keeping all of that straight :) Oh well, I have seen one of
> their patterns stitched, and it was incredible, especially detail such
> as faces, etc.
Please let us know what they have to say.
> Would I have taken this on right now if I had realized that? Don't
> know, but I REALLY want to do it, so it won't stop me. <snip>
> BTW, I am also starting Smokey Mountain Cats next week for my sister's
> Christmas present, so I don't have to wonder what I shall be doing
> when I am not at work or working on my thesis :)
I admire your tenacity! :-) You are also going to need it and lots of
patience to do this project and Smokey Mountain Cats too! Of course
you didn't say which Christmas! LOL
happy stitchin'
Mavia
ckostyn
<ma...@accesscable.net> scribed:
\\>I admire your tenacity! :-) You are also going to need it and lots
of
\\>patience to do this project and Smokey Mountain Cats too! Of course
\\>you didn't say which Christmas! LOL
\\>
\\>happy stitchin'
\\>Mavia
Hopefully this Christmas--- but that doesn't meant it can't change :)
Seriously, I am just waiting for the pattern to come in before I start
it. If that means that I have to set this one aside for a few months,
then so be it.
I did rip out everything and started again on the Blessing Christ.
This time I decided to use three floss threads instead of two, and it
looks much better. The coverage with two was kind of slim and I had
considered taking it all out again anyway. This 1:4 thing is going to
take some getting used to, and I am SO glad that someone mentioned
that, for I had forgotten it. There are no instructions or anything,
so there was nothing to remind me of that.
Catherine K.
Fred
I'm not a Canadian politician with the name of Joe Clark who desired better
than 64%! He lost!!
For me, 50% plus one is good enough, important decisions or otherwise.
Fred
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"Mavia Beaulieu" <ma...@accesscable.net> wrote in message
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F.James Cripwell
>(snip)
> that the 1:4 really does matter, which is going to really cross my
> eyes keeping all of that straight :) Oh well, I have seen one of
> their patterns stitched, and it was incredible, especially detail such
> as faces, etc.
> Catherine K.
I also emailed Solaris, and they say they do have the symbol counts.
Presumably, if you ask them, they will send them to you. Then you can
calculate how much floss you need. If you get the symbol count, and you
dont know how to do it, you could email me. Or if you like we could do it
"in public", on rctn. The actual calculations might be of interest to
others. Note that the amount you will need depends on the canvas count,
and how many threads you have in the needle. I must admit, I dont
understand this 1:4 ratio business, but as long as you do, that is all
that matters.
I am going to suggest to Solaris that they post the symbol counts on
their web site, together with instructions as to how to use them. Whether
they will take any notice of me, remains to be seen.
C Cordell
(MDT+1) From: bksti...@icenter.net (Fred)
>I suspect SAPS will get considerable opposition from the stitchers who
belong to environmental groups that support the stitches/symbols per
color numbers being printed on charts in order to decrease the senseless
"over or under purchasing" of floss.
I'm looking forward to Media coverage of those peaceful demonstrations
should they occur. ROFLMAO.
Give me the number of stitches/symbols per color used and based on MY
stitching habits let me decide how much I need to purchase. - A member
of Stitchers Promoting Improved Full Floss Yields. (SPIFFY).
Fred
El Honcho Grande
LOL!!
Fred, I didn't vote, because I've never fgured out how many stitches I
get to a skein of floss. Anyway, I don't *do* math unless it's
uavoidable.
I love your acronyms, though.
chris c
I have suffered from being misunderstood, but I would have suffered a
hell of a lot more if I had been understood. -Clarence Darrow, lawyer
and author (1857-1938)
Mavia Beaulieu
Fred wrote:
>
> Hi Mavia,
>
> I'm not a Canadian politician with the name of Joe Clark who desired better
> than 64%! He lost!!
> For me, 50% plus one is good enough, important decisions or otherwise.
>
> Fred
Now Fred...don't pick on Jo Clark! At the age of 39 he became the
youngest Prime Minister in the history of Canada. He had to knocked
out the formidable Pierre E. Trudeau to do this! True, he didn't stay
long but with the turmoil in the ranks of the present government he
just might make a come back! LOL
I think votes taken here in the newsgroup are interesting, but we need
to be realistic and admit...although we may be a vocal group on the
internet we are a very small part of the whole needlework community.
happy stitchin'
Mavia
ckostyn
Cripwell) scribed:
\\> I also emailed Solaris, and they say they do have the symbol
counts.
\\>Presumably, if you ask them, they will send them to you. Then you
can
\\>calculate how much floss you need. If you get the symbol count,
and you
\\>dont know how to do it, you could email me.
hmmm, I haven't heard from them? Well, I will email them again.
Thanks!
Catherine K.
ckostyn
\\>"in public", on rctn. The actual calculations might be of interest
to
\\>others. Note that the amount you will need depends on the canvas
count,
\\>and how many threads you have in the needle. I must admit, I dont
\\>understand this 1:4 ratio business, but as long as you do, that is
all
\\>that matters.
I actually did figure out the ratio business. For example:
T really means = TT
TT
I hope this formats right when I send this or that will make NO sense.
Sure, lets try a few of these in "public" so we can all see the
process. Then I will try the rest on my own--- and send what I come up
with to you via email to check and make sure that I did it right,
sound good? :)
I am using 18 ct Aida cloth, and using 3 threads of floss for
petit-point stitches
310 | 8986
3371 | 12056
823 | 3336
902 | 2322
938 | 5498
801 | 4262
433 | 98
3790 | 369
These are the first 7 they sent me. Number on the left is DMC color,
so of course the second number is the individual stitch count.
I really appreciate your being willing to help with this.
Catherine Kostyn
F.James Cripwell
much floss you need, is to go the Kathy Dyer's web site page
http://www.dnai.com/~kdyer/faqs/xstitch_tut.html#floss_amt.
You say you are stitching at 18 stitches per inch (18 count aida),
with three threads in the needle. Look up the table and you will
find a figure of 1530 stitches per skein of floss.
However, you mention petit-point stitches, and I cannot believe
you are doing full crosses on 18 count aida with three threads in
the needle. So it seems you will be doing half crosses. Here
we are in uncharted waters, but from Kathy's description as to
how the figures were calculated, if you only use half crosses,
you will get twice as many stitches. So if your backs look like
normal backs doing full crosses, this should be fine. If you are
going to be using some form of tent or continental stitch, then
you need to tell me, because usage figures will be different.
So we arrive at an average figure of 3060 stitches per skein.
Now, the more stitches are grouped together, the more stitches
you will get per skein. Only you can look at the pattern, and judge
how much this applies to the different colours. I would guess
that the larger the number of stitches, the closer they are grouped
together. For a normal sort of close grouping you can get about
18 percent more stitches. To be a little on the conservative side,
I would allocate 15 percent for the 3371, 10 percent to the 310,
and 5 percent each to the 810 and 938. This gives stitches per
skein for each colour as follows; 310 - 3333; 3371 - 3485;
938/801 - 3182; 823/902/433/3790 - 3030. Now simply divide
the number of stitches by the number of stitches per skein, and
you get the number of skeins required for each colour as follows.
DMC # No. of sts. Sts. Skein No. of skeins
310 8986 3333 2.70
3371 12056 3485 3.46
823 3336 3030 1.10
902 2322 3030 0.77
938 5498 3182 1.73
801 4262 3182 1.34
433 98 3030 0.03
3790 369 3030 0.12
So, if I are buying all colours from scratch, I would buy
3 of 310, 4 of 3371, 2 each of 938 and 801, and 1 each of
902, 433, and 3790. If I had any of these in my stash,
remembering there are 8 meters per skein, you need just
over 6 meters of 902, 1 meter of 3790, and a
quarter of a meter of 433. This leaves 823, and here you
must make a decision. Do you want to gamble on only
needing one skein, or do you buy two just to be sure?
To me, the major problem of running out of floss is the
dye lot problem. The human eye is very sensitive to minor
changes in colour where there are two areas next to each
other; such as you would get if you were stitching a
significant area of the same colour, and changed dye
lots in the middle. If stitches are scattered, you will never
notice the sort of differences that DMC is able to maintain
in colour consistency.
What I would suggest you do is to record how much floss
you start off with before you start stitching. If you have
bought new supplies, this is easy; you simply record how
many skeins you purchased. Don't use the floss for any
other project, and when you finish, measure how much of
each colour you have left. Obviously, if you have not had
enough, and you buy more skeins, you must record this as
well. Then you can compare your actual usage to these
calculations, and you will have a personalized set of figures
for future projects. I suspect that by the time you have
finished stitching you will know which colours were stitched
close together, and which were scattered.
ckostyn (cko...@worldnet.att.net) writes:
> I actually did figure out the ratio business. For example:
>
> T really means = TT
> TT
>
> I hope this formats right when I send this or that will make NO sense.
>
> Sure, lets try a few of these in "public" so we can all see the
> process. Then I will try the rest on my own--- and send what I come up
> with to you via email to check and make sure that I did it right,
> sound good? :)
>
> I am using 18 ct Aida cloth, and using 3 threads of floss for
> petit-point stitches
>
> 310 | 8986
> 3371 | 12056
> 823 | 3336
> 902 | 2322
> 938 | 5498
> 801 | 4262
> 433 | 98
> 3790 | 369
>
> These are the first 7 they sent me. Number on the left is DMC color,
> so of course the second number is the individual stitch count.
>
> I really appreciate your being willing to help with this.
>
> Catherine Kostyn
ckostyn
Cripwell) scribed:
So it seems you will be doing half crosses. Here
\\>we are in uncharted waters, but from Kathy's description as to
\\>how the figures were calculated, if you only use half crosses,
\\>you will get twice as many stitches. So if your backs look like
\\>normal backs doing full crosses, this should be fine. If you are
\\>going to be using some form of tent or continental stitch, then
\\>you need to tell me, because usage figures will be different.
\\>So we arrive at an average figure of 3060 stitches per skein.
Is that using three threads on the needle? Regarding the stitch
question, technically every other row is half-cross, the other row
being continental. The backs are really the only place where you can
see the difference of course. I suspect this complicates things even
more, I look foward to hear your thoughts.
Thank you for being willing to walk us through this, I am sure that I
am not the only one following this.
Catherine K.
Darla
wrote:
>\\>and how many threads you have in the needle. I must admit, I dont
>\\>understand this 1:4 ratio business, but as long as you do, that is
>all
>\\>that matters.
>I actually did figure out the ratio business. For example:
>
>T really means = TT
> TT
>
>I hope this formats right when I send this or that will make NO sense.
which means that Aida is really unsuitable. Over one really works
best on evenweave fabrics.
Darla
May the light always find you on a dreary day,
When you need to be home, may you find a way.
May you always have courage to take a chance,
And never find frogs in your underpants! -- Unknown
ckostyn
scribed:
\\>Catherine, that looks to me like the detail work is done over one,
\\>which means that Aida is really unsuitable. Over one really works
\\>best on evenweave fabrics.
\\>Darla
Nawww, it is one stitch symbol per stitch, not one over one, We were
talking about the stich symbols, and I did ask about that when I
bought the chart, they said that Aida was fine, as long as I
remembered the 1:4 for main chart and 1:1 for detail.
Thanks for your thought though!
Catherine