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Steve M

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Jan 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/29/00
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Could anyone help with a rough percentage that might be expected to be paid
in commition to a craft shop that was selling my pottery? They were asking
30% - what does everyone think, is this reasonable?

Steve M.

John & Anne Worner

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Jan 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/29/00
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Most galleries in this area - Houston, TX, want 50% - to me, 30% sounds
pretty goo

P. Cox

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Jan 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/30/00
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30% is good, most places take 30 to 50 percent, tho I think 50 is too
high unless they can really move your stuff and take alot of pieces a
once. hope this helps, pea


Stephen Mills

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Jan 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/30/00
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seems a familiar amount to me.

Steve
Bath
UK


In article <86vi4s$lkr$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, Steve M <meady@meady100.
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>Could anyone help with a rough percentage that might be expected to be paid
>in commition to a craft shop that was selling my pottery? They were asking
>30% - what does everyone think, is this reasonable?
>
>Steve M.
>
>

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Steve Mills

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Robert Gf Woo

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Jan 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/31/00
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30% is indeed low for commission. Be aware of the legal aspects, though.
They are under no obligation to move your work. They could store it away
if it doesn't move. You've tied up work. YOu must keep track of your work.
MOst important, you need a contract to cover when they will pay you, if
work sells.......and only you can check whether they did sell work....or
it is in storage.
Finally, if gallery folds, you are at end of list to be paid in
dissolution of assets.
Most galleries operate well. You just should be aware of these facts.

Marla K. Serrine

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Feb 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/1/00
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Steve,

Does this also include a fee for a booth or space? American Craft Malls charge
a booth fee dependent upon the size of the booth plus 10% commission. Has
anyone else had experience with these malls? I'm interested in anyone's
opinions, too.

Love, Marla


Slgraber

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Feb 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/4/00
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about 7 years ago i tried selling via the "craft malls" and did miserable. i
think acceptance is via a canceled check - work quality doesn't mean much.
sales were near zero and the store was always empty - but "crafters" were there
paying rent every month! i think the store owner made enough money off us that
he didn't really care about making sales...

personally i'd skip the "mall" concept as a store outlet.

along these lines i found that shows where there were tole paintings, dried
flowers, and the word "cute" spoken every 30 seconds you don't find many
pottery customers...

see ya

steve

>Subject: Re: Anyone Help?
>From: "Marla K. Serrine" jin...@i-robot.net
>Date: 2/1/00 10:17 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <38972356...@i-robot.net>


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Rebecca Staudenmaier

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Feb 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/4/00
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I am not sure what you mean by "craft malls". I know what a mall is and what arts
and crafts shows are but have never really heard of "craft malls". I guess they
aren't in my area or go by a different name. How are they different?
-rebecca

Slgraber

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Feb 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/5/00
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around here (southern california) about 1993 there began a "craze" where stores
opened to offer for sale the same stuff we all see at the art & craft shows.
this enabled a 7 day a week outlet where we (crafters, artists) usually get to
sell only on weekends at various art & craft fairs. these stores were reffered
to as "craft malls". an individual was able to buy a space of maybe 4 foot by
4 foot to set up a permanent store display for less than $50 per month and
leave it (and maintain it's inventory) alone for several months. the overall
store would have maybe 200 art & craft people represented. your sales usually
had an additional 10% comision to the store owner.

this concept seems good, but the reality of the story seems to be the store
owners made their money off of our monthly rent and have no true incentive to
promote the store and increase customer trafic for higher sales. also, since
the owner can cover his rent and have lots of cash left over ($50 per artist
times 200 artists equals $10,000 cash per month) at the end of the month, why
work harder?!

since the owners seem to make money from our rent payments - not product sales
- they alowed virtually anyone with a "talent" to pay to have their work in the
store. you'd see some of the sickest low budget craft work you'd EVER see next
to some wonderful art! many artists used these stores to hold inventory on
display between their regular art/craft shows and would strip their shelves if
inventory was low for their other regular shows. other crafters simply seldom
maintained their spaces and the overall store looked sloppy as a result.
consumers (our customers) quickly learned that these stores had mostly junk or
looked like junk and customer traffic was typically nill.

store owners seemed to know their endevore was going to be short and signed
short store leases with their land lords and closed after a year - walking away
with some nice rent cash...

some stores still maintain a similar process but in a "blended" format.
artists can still pay monthly rent for the priveledge of having work in a
store, but the store owners' set up the store to look more like a traditional
nick-nack store. these are better looking to the consumer, but from a potter's
point of view i found my work was placed or used to be a display accent for
someone's jewlery or to make some antiques look classier.

after time i got tired of being used to make a store look better, and to
essentually provide free inventory to a store owner - help fill his store. i
believe if they know their customer they will buy our work outright and sell
for their own profit. if the store owner doesn't know who his customer is
he'll like to have all of us provide a hodge podge of things to make the store
look full to consumers - no finacial risk to him so what the hell.

be cautious

steve graber

>Subject: Re: Anyone Help?
>From: Rebecca Staudenmaier rsta...@mesa5.mesastate.edu
>Date: 2/4/00 8:08 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <389AF990...@mesa5.mesastate.edu>

goatnose2

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