color
saraja...@dinosaur.com
Dear Group
Ah....my fellow colour junkies!! So I'm not alone in cruising the eyeshadow
pallettes (only WEAR black, but own 4 or 5 boxes....)the paint chips, the
art supply stores...I once (back in my store-owning days) bought the
ENTIRE line of DMC embroidery flosses and spent a whole day with all
the boxes open around me, half swooning as I grouped and re-grouped....
And the colour mixability of pc is a very large part of its appeal for me as
well.
I'll bet there are some people who's rods and cones in the eye are more
or differently arranged or something, so that more colour/differences are
perceived---there's a thesis in there somewhere--and I would bet that the
difference in brain activitiy when viewing colors is measurable. Perhaps the
people like us who SEE more colours are more stimulated cerebrally--
I know I can get seriously high on walking through autumn foliage
especially when the reds and purples are involved! Perhaps this is
part of the "brainstorm" effect, this stimulation... Someone mentioned
a while back about Van Gogh, and the theory that a form of epilepsy
was involved in his furious bouts of creativity (like Thelonias Monk
or Mozart in music, perhaps?) and I know epilepsy often has visual triggers.
I am fascinated by the creative force as it manifests in peoples lives and
work, and differences in perception between people.
And I have this to add to the "art/craft" discussion--
Craft is practiced technique...a Way of Doing.
Art is perception...a Way of Seeing.
Sarajane Helm
Otterfire
> Craft is practiced technique...a Way of Doing.
> Art is perception...a Way of Seeing.
>
>
I like that....
Now back to the color thing, every year i get one of those makeup kits that
they offer at christmas...ya know eyeshadow, blush, and nail polish..the wilder
the colors the better..and never fails when i do bother to put on makeup its
always the same..3 shades of brown brown eyeliner and some lip crap... I NEVER
use the cool colors and i am dying to have ......
And the epilepsy (sp) thing is especailly interesting to me. I once dated a
guy who was very artistic (in many different areas) but his favorite thing was
to write songs. He had a grand mall seizures when he was a child, but as he
grew older, he only got lil brain skips. They were really odd because he would
*go away* mentally for a minute and talk to himself and then come back and not
remember anyof it. He refused to take the meds saying that they dulled his
brain and he couldnt think right (some people of course thought that was his
problem....)
Aranthe
In article <980701104...@dinosaur.com>, saraja...@dinosaur.com
writes:
> Someone mentioned
>a while back about Van Gogh, and the theory that a form of epilepsy
>was involved in his furious bouts of creativity (like Thelonias Monk
>or Mozart in music, perhaps?) and I know epilepsy often has visual triggers.
>I am fascinated by the creative force as it manifests in peoples lives and
>work, and differences in perception between people.
I don't know about epilepsy, but I *do* know that Van Gogh suffered from
boughts of clinical depression and that there is a high, scientifically
documented correlation between depression and creativity.
--Triche
Sherry Bailey
My name is Sherry and I, too, am a color junkie.
You guys are missing another color compulsion -- PAPER! These days with rubber
stamps and scrapbooks, even more kinds and colors of paper are out there
screaming for me to figure out what to do combining them with polymer
clay. (Meanwhile I just buy them and stack them up -- yum!) (Especially fond
of Japanese silk-screened papers -- darn, I'm blanking on the name of them,
but they are gorgeous mulberry paper origami papers, for one thing.)
(And funny thing, too -- as much as I adore color and use it in my clay work,
I WEAR mostly neutrals and subdued blues and greens... I wonder if this is as
common as it sounds, and WHY!?)
Sherry
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On 2 Jul 1998 18:25:36 GMT, slba...@bu.edu (Sherry Bailey) wrote
"I, too, am a color junkie (SNIP) but I wear subdued colors like blues
and greens...WHY?"
Sherry,
have you ever heard of the proverbial house cleaners adage? House
cleaners have the messiest houses, car mechanics wives have cars that
are barely running...maybe you are a proverbial color hound?
I studied color beginning in a Harvard Physics program in High School
and have always considered myself a colorist (from my painting days), and
I used to wear very conservative colors - but now? Oh, you can see me in
a crowd about a mile away. I decided I am wearing them here in the world
of plaid and dark colors, (the Pacific Northwest, of course, rain city).
Of course, I still have days where I wish to be inconspicuous...
<VBG>
Meredith
--
DBuck26803
Back in my art school days-and please don't ask how long ago that was-we had to
buy a box of Color Aid paper. The sheets are 8x10,I think and it's the most
velvety saturated color you'll ever see. A serious color junkie could have a
field day with these! I hate to think how much the set goes for these days. It
was $75 back then. Some art stores do sell individual sheets,though.
Jody Bishel
Lyn
Sherry Bailey wrote:
>
> My name is Sherry and I, too, am a color junkie.
>
> You guys are missing another color compulsion -- PAPER!
Oh good heavens! I've found my people. When someone else mentioned the
crayons I felt less alone...but now... PAPER! I'm a paper and crayon
junkie. I used to be a magazine editor and we had a print shop on site.
I was always roaming around in the back collecting scraps and things out
of the paper bins. One day the shop foreman asked me if he should just
bring all the trash by my office first... :) I still have REAMS of
lovely reds and pinks and neons that were tail ends of jobs and I got
for free or cheap. I love the print industry...
Lyn
jane...@ix.netcom.com
> Someone mentioned
>a while back about Van Gogh, and the theory that a form of epilepsy
>was involved in his furious bouts of creativity (like Thelonias Monk
>or Mozart in music, perhaps?) and I know epilepsy often has visual triggers.
>I am fascinated by the creative force as it manifests in peoples lives and
>work, and differences in perception between people.>>
There's a fascinating book called *Seized*, I think by Eve Laplante,
that theorizes that van Gogh, as well as several other notable artists
and creators, suffered from temporal-lobe epilepsy, which can manifest
itself in religious visions and hallucinations, among other things. J
Otterfire
Oh my..i am not allowed in staples, office max or office depot..because i BUY,
BUY, BUY with no intention of EVER using it, i like to see the different
textures and colors of paper...I can not go down the scrapbook section of ANY
store, because i will buy one sheet of every peice and just look at it, i can
not bear to use it, i am the same way with my glass beads, i will use them if i
have more than one, when i am down to one of any bead...FORGET it that bead is
off limits even if i was going to make myself something...do you all think i
need color therapy?
kk
Otterfire wrote:
I was feeling pretty smug until now... until you mentioned the last bead.
Someday I *will* make a rope necklace out of all my orphan beads...!
As to color, my fetish is singular and once-removed. I bought a whole little sheet
of stamps just to get that crayola box stamp, and I wouldn't part with it for the
world. Is that a fetish-by-proxy???? <g>
Vince Rhea
Sherry Bailey wrote:
> You guys are missing another color compulsion -- PAPER!
I've got paper, paper, even old (maybe 50 to 100 years old) paper! I save old
paper just because you can't get that "look" too easily anymore.
>(Meanwhile I just buy them and stack them up -- yum!) (Especially fond
> of Japanese silk-screened papers -- darn, I'm blanking on the name of them,
> but they are gorgeous mulberry paper origami papers, for one thing.)
I have a Japanese handmade paper book that is at least 30 years old--(I've had it
over 20 years). It was sort of a salesman's sample book and was made for art
supply stores. I've opened this book a hundred times and tried to take out a
sheet in order to use for the background for my Cernit nude and nearly nude ladies
(relief sculpting). I was planning Oriental ladies or.... But I can not bring
myself to cut the book up. The patterns and colors of these papers are out of
this world. Somegami Red is so vibrant it hurts the eyes even for a brief
look.The papers include homespun, textured, designed, batik, stenciled, foils,
tissues, lace, and those for water color, silkscreen, lithograph, wood block and
etching. Oh, how I wish you all could see this book (but I would not let it out
of my sight)! And paper goes so well with polymer clay.....
> (And funny thing, too -- as much as I adore color and use it in my clay work,
> I WEAR mostly neutrals and subdued blues and greens... I wonder if this is as
> common as it sounds, and WHY!?)
Sherry, I must tell you---we have only ONE thing in common.<g> I'm plain as can
be with the colors I wear. But I'm beginning to get braver.
Jeanne
Otterfire
Oh oh oh do i DARE mention walpaper books?
I dont mean the plain ole 29.95 a roll paper i am talking about the 150+ price
range the kind you really have to sneak to get. Another plus of interior
design school. Ok i have to quit i am getting myself all worked up!!!!
Kimberly
Vince Rhea <vin...@dcr.com> wrote in article
<359C25B6...@dcr.com>...
>
>
> Sherry Bailey wrote:
>
> > You guys are missing another color compulsion -- PAPER!
Oh my...PAPER! My husband took off today for the Philippines and the only
"souvenir" requwst from me while over there - PAPER. Anything handmade.
They are especially wonderful at turning stuff like banana leaves,
pineapple fibers, and such into sheets of such amazing texture (both visual
and tactile). And don't even let me loose in Pearl Art Supply or Daniel
Smith when I have my credit card. Should I even start in on the endless
possiblilities when one starts making their own? <g>
> And paper goes so well with polymer clay.....
Without a doubt! I use card stock with pieces of handmade/exotic papers
pasted to them to display polymer clay earrings and pins. I also love
adding clay "feet" to cast-paper vessels. Polymer clay beads are wonderful
adornments around the rims of bowls and along the spines of journals.
(Having access to Mom's collection of textile weaving supplies also helps
here since she always has the right color binding material.) And imbedding
flatter pieces of clay right into the pulp makes for some fantastic collage
work. The best part about using the polymer clay is that there is ALWAYS a
way to match the color!
Kimberly
P.S. I guess I am usually what I have seen referred to as a "lurker", and
haven't really jumped into the discussion on that many occasions. I would
like to say, however, that coming up to the computer late at night, after
all the kids are in bed and chores are done (well, okay, usually they are
done first) <vbg>
is an activity I always look forward to. I have learned a lot (can't wait
to try the crone figures), laughed a lot (see previous note about the crone
figures), thought a lot (for me, the line between art and craft will never
be crystal clear), and I look forward to hopefully joining in on more of
the discussions.
CMDoyon99
I'm obsessed with paper too. The way I've incorporated paper so far is to
cover lamp shades with them, and then cover the lamp bases with polymer clay.
I just took a papermaking class; it's great to cross over ideas and
inspirations--I'd like to try to incorporate paper and pc further, perhaps in a
vessel. Funny--my last project in the class was molds--I made a paper vessel
using a quilt design with different colors of paper pulp and translated pc
ideas into paper!!!
Cassie Doyon
Cassie Doyon Designs
http://members.aol.com/cmdoyon99/cddesigns.html
Patricia Edmonds
saraja...@dinosaur.com wrote:
> Dear Group
> Ah....my fellow colour junkies!! So I'm not alone in cruising the eyeshadow
> pallettes (only WEAR black, but own 4 or 5 boxes....)the paint chips, the
> art supply stores...I once (back in my store-owning days) bought the
> ENTIRE line of DMC embroidery flosses and spent a whole day with all
> the boxes open around me, half swooning as I grouped and re-grouped....
> And the colour mixability of pc is a very large part of its appeal for me as
> well.
> I'll bet there are some people who's rods and cones in the eye are more
> or differently arranged or something, so that more colour/differences are
> perceived---there's a thesis in there somewhere--and I would bet that the
> difference in brain activitiy when viewing colors is measurable. Perhaps the
> people like us who SEE more colours are more stimulated cerebrally--
> I know I can get seriously high on walking through autumn foliage
> especially when the reds and purples are involved! Perhaps this is
> part of the "brainstorm" effect, this stimulation... Someone mentioned
> a while back about Van Gogh, and the theory that a form of epilepsy
> was involved in his furious bouts of creativity (like Thelonias Monk
> or Mozart in music, perhaps?) and I know epilepsy often has visual triggers.
> I am fascinated by the creative force as it manifests in peoples lives and
> work, and differences in perception between people.
> And I have this to add to the "art/craft" discussion--
> Craft is practiced technique...a Way of Doing.
> Art is perception...a Way of Seeing.
>
> Sarajane Helm
Patricia Edmonds
I too am a "color junkie!" and have been for many many years ( even as a small
child, as I remember....) but at least my addiction pays for itself and then
some ( unlike my computer junkie husband, who constantly pumps $$ into the black
hole of upgrades which will be obsolete in less than 6 months...) but I
digress...<G>
Has any other 'color addict' purchased amber colored "blu-blocker' sunglasses? I
found that they warped colors so badly I became literally nauseous and sent them
back promptly!
pat
kk
> Has any other 'color addict' purchased amber colored "blu-blocker' sunglasses? I
> found that they warped colors so badly I became literally nauseous and sent them
> back promptly!
>
I didn't get the amber ones for the drive from California to Illinois -- I got some
that were reflective blue/gree/purple on the outside, and looked amber/greenish thru
them FOR AWHILE. It took my brain (such as it is) about 5 minutes to do whatever it
did with the colors and I was seeing normally out of them -- they were working just
like regular sunglasses. The biggest advantage was I could people-watch without
getting caught. <grin>
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Doraclay
In article <359CE5A6...@aol.com>, Patricia Edmonds <pedm...@aol.com>
writes:
>Has any other 'color addict' purchased amber colored "blu-blocker'
>sunglasses? I
>found that they warped colors so badly I became literally nauseous and sent
>them
>back promptly!
>
>
I've never worn "blu-blockers", but I absolutely HATE wearing sunglasses (even
in settings where I should be wearing them like for driving or when I'm out in
bright sunlight) because of the color distortions. I'm a color addict too, and
I *must* see the sky at its bluest, and leaves at their greenest !! Although
lately I've tried to be more careful about protecting my eyes from ultraviolet
radiation because my eyesight has become all the more precious to me since I've
been polyclaying. I figure that if I take good care of my eyes (and hands), I
can be happily claying away when I'm very old and need a walker to get around!!
Dora from RI
member of NPCG and
Central New England Polymer Clay Guild
Ceejayland
Dora wrote:
<<but I absolutely HATE wearing sunglasses (even in settings where I should be
wearing them like for driving or when I'm out in bright sunlight) because of
the color distortions. >>
You can get UV protection on very lightly tinted glasses. (In fact you can get
the UV protection on any eyeglasses.) One of the worst types of sunglasses to
get is one with a very dark lens (unless you need that for a spedific physical
reason). When they are too dark, your pupils enlarge in an attempt to help you
see; With your pupils dilated, you can't focus as well on small detail.
Polarized lenses cut the glare the best -- Particularly if you are near water.
(I worked in an upscale sunglass shop for three years. Was amazed at the
volume of information re this product.)
Ceejay
LynelleV
Oh Joy! Somebody mentioned color - and paper - and yarn!
These are a few of my favorite things <g>
For hobbies I have polymer clay, origami (involves buying lots of handmade
Washi and machine made Chiyogami papers) and Weaving (and excuse to wallow in
color and texture and pattern). Guess I'm pretty normal around here...
Lynelle V
LynelleV
>Dora wrote:
>but I absolutely HATE wearing sunglasses (even in settings where I should
>be
>wearing them like for driving or when I'm out in bright sunlight) because of
>the color distortions. >>
I have UV block on my clear eyeglasses - it doesn't distort color. The tint
part of sunglasses is separate from the UV block part I guess, or can be.
Lynelle V
Doraclay
Thanks for the info, Ceejayland, (and Lynelle) about sunglasses! I never fail
to learn something from this newsgroup! Eyesight is so precious, don't want to
mess around with it !!!
And speaking of "color junkie" , in my basement, strung on a ball chain, are
over 100 1.5"x2" samples of formica/laminate in every color imaginable !!!
After all this talk about color, I'm going to go get it, dust the cobwebs off
it , and stash it in my craft room with all my colored papers, markers,
embroidery floss, etc, etc,............
I also collect books on "foundation piece quilting" on the premise that I will
one day take up quilting; but who am I kidding?? I don't even like to sew, LOL
!! I just love looking at pictures of quilts!! Talk about a color feast for
the eyes !!! Plus I get a lot of great ideas for making quilt
canes................so I have a legitimate excuse for buying all these
books!!!
kk
Doraclay wrote:
And speaking of "color junkie" , in my basement, strung on a ball chain, are
> over 100 1.5"x2" samples of formica/laminate in every color imaginable !!!
> After all this talk about color, I'm going to go get it, dust the cobwebs off
> it , and stash it in my craft room with all my colored papers, markers,
> embroidery floss, etc, etc,............
>
Enough color junkies come out of the closet, and we're going to have to start a
spin-off n/g....!
DABlack
>I *must* see the sky at its bluest, and leaves at their greenest !!
For this exact reason, the ONLY sunglasses I can stand (and I have to wear them
all the time outside, cause too much light really bothers my light-colored
eyes) are:
-polarized
-brown-tinted (not *too* dark)
I once couldn't find a pair of these to replace a lost pair, and I literally
went into an aesthetic withdrawal that was really painful (some people fpund
this hard to believe --but not this group, I can see!). Polarized lenses take
the color-draining glare out, and put all the depth of color back in. All that
color richness gives my driving experiences a whole extra dimension!
Unfortunately, these are not all that easy to find anymore, so I tend to keep a
pair for years (my longest was 10 yrs). I consider them a treasure.
Diane B.
el...@monmouth.com
My gracious and here I thought I was the only one who noticed that
velvety saturated color on those Color Aid pieces. Heaven, I hope,
isn't just white angel wings but acres of gorgeous saturated COLOR!!!!
Carolyn
A Jersey Girl
el...@monmouth.com
Kimberly wrote:
> P.S. I guess I am usually what I have seen referred to as a "lurker", and
> haven't really jumped into the discussion on that many occasions. I would
> like to say, however, that coming up to the computer late at night, after
> all the kids are in bed and chores are done (well, okay, usually they are
> done first) <vbg>
> is an activity I always look forward to. I have learned a lot (can't wait
> to try the crone figures), laughed a lot (see previous note about the crone
> figures), thought a lot (for me, the line between art and craft will never
> be crystal clear), and I look forward to hopefully joining in on more of
> the discussions.
Kimberly: As a relative newcomer to the group I know how you feel about
joining in...it's kinda scary BUT...I've learned more from lurking and
posting to this ng than in any book or seminar I've attended. Every one
who lurks and thinks they have nothing to add to the conversations is
WRONG! Just look how this Color thread has grown...and all due to a
couple of innocent remarks...mine included!
Carolyn
A Jersey Girl
Yoshiko Ito
Otterfire wrote:
>
> Oh oh oh do i DARE mention walpaper books?
> I dont mean the plain ole 29.95 a roll paper i am talking about the 150+ price
> range the kind you really have to sneak to get. Another plus of interior
> design school.
Funny you should mention wallpaper books. Just last week four of us from
work were driving to a meeting. When we were slowed down because of a
traffic light, one of the passengers spotted a big pile of wallpaper
sample books on the sidewalk in front of a wallpaper store. Well, you
can guess the rest :-)
--Yoshiko
JPatter3
FABRIC, I used to work in the home decorating field, and when the new uphostery
and drapery fabric samples came in I was in heaven. I used to sit and gaze at
the colors, and patterns while strokeing (sp?) so I could feel the textures. I
still have boxes of samples I just couldn't let them throw away! Get me into a
fabric store and I am lost for hours, especially a good one. Right now I have
to travel 2 1/2 hours to get to a GOOD fabric store. But it is worth the trip.
Then I was at a state quilter's guild convention a couple of weeks ago. There
were fabrics there you would never find in a store, custome dyed, custom
colored, and quilts lots and lots of wonderful colored quilts
and..............................OH ! OH!..................I had better stop!
I could go on and on. (and my family says I do!) But it is not just the
colors, it is the textures, and maybe that has something to do with clay, I
just love the feel of it in my hands.
Jenny P.
Laura McGuinn
Laura McGuinn
el...@monmouth.com wrote in message <35A006...@monmouth.com>...
Patricia Barnes
t read your request about where you could buy that colored paper all
of us seem to remember from college design classes. A source for it is
the Dick Blick catalog. It's on page 141 of the 1997 catalog. The
complete packet of 314 colors in 6" by 9" size sells for $71.89 and the
code number is 913800. Blick's product information number is
1-800-933-2542, 8:00 to 4:30 central time, or email: in...@dickblick.com.
As an art teacher, Blick is the best overall catalog for strange/unusual
art supplies. Also, if you have a local college or university, just walk
into the college bookstore and ask for it. Chances are they may have it
in stock. Looking at my old box, sitting on my drawing table, I paid
"only" $28.50 for a box of 202 sheets back in Jan. '87 when I was in my
third year of college. It seems cheap now, but as a single mother with
children, going to school on grants, loans and work study, it sure
stretched my budget. But like everyone who has mentioned these beautiful
silk screened papers, I've obviously cherished it over the years and
still use them. I think I may just try to make a polymer clay piece to
match each of them. Wouldn't that be a chore! But, oh I do love color.
For anyone not wanting to buy the large box, there is a swatch
booklet of all 314 colors in a 2" x 4 1/2" size for only $25.89.
Hope this helps.
Patricia (Pattycake)
el...@monmouth.com
>
> where do you think they might sell the packs of these?
>
> Laura McGuinn
> el...@monmouth.com wrote in message <35A006...@monmouth.com>...
> >DBuck26803 wrote:
> >>
> >> Back in my art school days-and please don't ask how long ago that was-we
> had to
> >> buy a box of Color Aid paper.
even a college bookstore might carry boxes of these. Know when I was
taking art classes the bookstore would stock what the teacher needed.
Carolyn
A Jersey Girl
Laura McGuinn
Dzeffren2
and the big boxes of Color Aid paper was $53. That is a pretty big difference!
My friend and I put it on the back burner to buy a box eventually, cut the
sheets in half, and share...they're big sheets).
Donna in St. Louis
JPatter3
ceeja...@aol.com (Ceejayland) writes:
>d
>air, till I read your post. Now I've been busted! I still have boxes and
>bags
>of little fabric swatches from clothing lines I used to represent over 10
>years
>ago!!! I'm trying to move now and it's *killing* me to throw them away.
>Arrrgh :=(
Oh I shouldn't say this.......But ...........you could send them to me!!!!....I
promise I will keep them safe until you need them back. ;-))
Jenny
Patti Kimle
always saving sample books for me. I have about 3 sets to be made into
quilt tops someday....like I'm ever going to get around to that!!!
Patti
Ceejayland wrote:
> Oh Jenny.......I was reading these 'color' threads with a somewhat
> detatched
> air, till I read your post. Now I've been busted! I still have boxes
> and bags
> of little fabric swatches from clothing lines I used to represent over
> 10 years
> ago!!! I'm trying to move now and it's *killing* me to throw them
> away.
> Arrrgh :=(
>
> <<with me its FABRIC, I used to work in the home decorating field, and
> when
> <<the new uphostery and drapery fabric samples came in I was in
> heaven. I
> <<used to sit and gaze at the colors, and patterns while strokeing
> (sp?) so I
> <<could feel the textures. I still have boxes of samples I just
> couldn't let
> them <<throw away! Get me into a fabric store and I am lost for
> hours,
> especially a <<good one.
> Ceejay
PolymerPig
>van Gogh, as well as several other notable artists
>and creators, suffered from temporal-lobe epilepsy, which can manifest
>itself in religious visions and hallucinations, among other things.
I have also heard the theory that Van Gogh suffered from Menier's disease,
which can cause a whole collection of noises in the head/ear. Kathy