> >>> Derek was one of the cops that followed up on some of my break-ins, he
seemed
> >>> like a nice guy and was truly concerned about my problems.  I remember
he had
> >>> a sense of humor.

> >>> My point being that a recent thread about how "religious zealots" were
> >>> putting too many of these animals in prison.  WTF???  This incident
just
> >>> confirms my conviction to get my ccw.  It just so happens that the
security
> >>> company that I hire for the shop teaches the course every month and as
a
> >>> customer, I get a 20% discount.  I've decided to carry my Springfield
XD-9mm
> >>> especially after installing an aftermarket trigger and a bit of
polishing on
> >>> the sear and striker and installing a 4-40 overtravel limit set screw
on the
> >>> trigger bar.  The trigger is now SWEET! (Don, are you reading this?)
I'll
> >>> have to get a hold of Gunner for ammo recommendations as I think 9mm
is a
> >>> marginal defense round.

> >> If you'll check the same thread of which you made reference, you'll see
that
> >> I'm not sympathetic of criminals.  Far as I'm concerned, it should be
open
> >> season on the bastards.

> >> Very sorry to hear of the tragedy with Officer Owens.

> >> Harold

> >Cleveland is out of control!  The joblessness, the failed schools and the
> >gestalt mentality have turned the inner city into a no man's land.  Our
> >Democratic government spends money like water on convention centers and
sports
> >arenas.  The unions would rather see businesses shut down than offer
> >concessions.  Companies have left in droves.  I'll move at the earliest
> >opportunity.

> The little town I live in, would love to have your busines. And Ill
> bet you could get significant tax breaks from local government, and
> likely free or near free land and perhaps a facliity existant.

> http://www.taftchamber.com/

> It IS California..but its a Strongly conservative county, with a
> sherriff who is almost Shall Issue with CCWs. We dont pay a lot of
> attention to Sacramento, and as its a town in decline..there is a
> significant workforce available. And hungry for new business.

> Gunner

> I live in California too. I know where Taft is. I've driven by there plenty
> of times. It's crap. Believe me you wouldn't want to live there. Why do you
> think "it's a town in decline" when the rest of California continues to
> grow? That ought to tell you how attractive a place to live it is. It's
> flat, hot, dry, and in the middle of nowhere. No wonder Popgunner lives
> there. It's perfect for him.

>> It IS California..but its a Strongly conservative county, with a
>> sherriff who is almost Shall Issue with CCWs. We dont pay a lot of
>> attention to Sacramento, and as its a town in decline..there is a
>> significant workforce available. And hungry for new business.

>> Gunner

> I live in California too. I know where Taft is. I've driven by there
> plenty of times. It's crap. Believe me you wouldn't want to live
> there. Why do you think "it's a town in decline" when the rest of
> California continues to grow? That ought to tell you how attractive a
> place to live it is. It's flat, hot, dry, and in the middle of
> nowhere. No wonder Popgunner lives there. It's perfect for him.

> Hawke

>>> It IS California..but its a Strongly conservative county, with a
>>> sherriff who is almost Shall Issue with CCWs. We dont pay a lot of
>>> attention to Sacramento, and as its a town in decline..there is a
>>> significant workforce available. And hungry for new business.

>>> Gunner

>> I live in California too. I know where Taft is. I've driven by there
>> plenty of times. It's crap. Believe me you wouldn't want to live
>> there. Why do you think "it's a town in decline" when the rest of
>> California continues to grow? That ought to tell you how attractive a
>> place to live it is. It's flat, hot, dry, and in the middle of
>> nowhere. No wonder Popgunner lives there. It's perfect for him.

>> Hawke

>For those who aren't interested in either Welfare or the Welfare State but
>prefer personal freedom, towns like Taft have a definite appeal. <grin>

>After all, "Chicken", not EVERYONE wants to be an inmate of such notorious
>prisons as Los Angeles. <grin>

>>For those who aren't interested in either Welfare or the Welfare State
>>but prefer personal freedom, towns like Taft have a definite appeal.
>><grin>

> Indeed. Its only in decline because the oil is drying up.

> Flat, no...mountains to the west, starting a block from my house.
> Hot, dry and in the middle of nowhere.
> You say that like its a bad thing?

> Its also in the middle of one of California's bread baskets.

>>After all, "Chicken", not EVERYONE wants to be an inmate of such
>>notorious prisons as Los Angeles. <grin>

> Fuck no!  I have to work in LA basin. It doesn't mean its superior to
> where I live.

> Our "gang problem" consists of a few dimwits using  permanent markers
> on garage doors.

> Yours consists of the Bloods and Crypts, for a start.

> Gunner

> >> Gunner

> > I live in California too. I know where Taft is. I've driven by there
> > plenty of times. It's crap. Believe me you wouldn't want to live
> > there. Why do you think "it's a town in decline" when the rest of
> > California continues to grow? That ought to tell you how attractive a
> > place to live it is. It's flat, hot, dry, and in the middle of
> > nowhere. No wonder Popgunner lives there. It's perfect for him.

> > Hawke

> For those who aren't interested in either Welfare or the Welfare State but
> prefer personal freedom, towns like Taft have a definite appeal. <grin>

> After all, "Chicken", not EVERYONE wants to be an inmate of such notorious
> prisons as Los Angeles. <grin>

> Karl

>> Cleveland is out of control!  The joblessness, the failed schools and the
>> gestalt mentality have turned the inner city into a no man's land.  Our
>> Democratic government spends money like water on convention centers and
>> sports arenas.  The unions would rather see businesses shut down than
>> offer concessions.  Companies have left in droves.  I'll move at the
>> earliest opportunity.

>There's an empty facility right beside a rail line in my little town. The
>city would fall all over itself with incentives to get you here. There's a
>GREAT workforce, wonderful schools, good (well OK) government, great qualtiy
>of life, etc. in this area. Same story in 1000's of small towns in rural
>USA. It is time for you to move. Choose the area you'd like and start
>shopping.

>Why don't you come on out to MN? Don Foreman and I would be glad to show you
>around. Stop at a few local cities to see what offers are available.

>Karl