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Karl Townsend

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Feb 2, 2010, 9:38:25 AM2/2/10
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Sometime in the not terribly distant future I'll be living in a two bedroom
condo. I need to make plans now or I'll go nuts with no projects.

Anyway, I seen this near where I live:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Emco-Maier-EMCOTURN-120P-CNC-LATHE-Emcotronic-TM02_W0QQitemZ230430357236QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Lathes?hash=item35a6b836f4

Is this thing light enough to go up a set of stairs and live in a spare
bedroom? (er small shop) Is it a high quality lathe for its size?

FWIW, I've refit many CNC machines to a new control. That part is no
problem.

Karl


Joe

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Feb 2, 2010, 2:31:52 PM2/2/10
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http://www.findamachine.com/lathe/EMCO/120P/specification

Its kinda heavy but should fit. As for its quality, that is going do
be a crap shoot on an emco this old. Good luck

wolfgang

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Feb 2, 2010, 4:58:59 PM2/2/10
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Karl,

I hope that you either own the building or that you live on the ground
floor on concrete.

I'd get cabin fever in an apartment/condo.

wolfgang

Karl Townsend

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Feb 2, 2010, 7:38:57 PM2/2/10
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"Joe" <jdrie...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> http://www.findamachine.com/lathe/EMCO/120P/specification
>
> Its kinda heavy but should fit. As for its quality, that is going do
> be a crap shoot on an emco this old. Good luck

Thanks for the spec. page. Looks like a real good candidate for me.

Karl

Bruce L. Bergman

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Feb 3, 2010, 2:00:34 AM2/3/10
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If you don't already own the condo...

Look for one with a garage and a "Bonus Room" on the ground floor,
with a nice concrete slab floor. It's a popular floorplan around Los
Angeles area, and the Bonus Room can easily be converted to a Home
Shop.

It usually gets used for an entertainment room or home office, as you
can be a little noisy into the wee hours while someone else is
sleeping up on the 3rd Floor.

The only killer is getting the machine in and out from the garage, you
will have to cut a large door through the garage firewall wall- and to
fill in the hole you have to get an oversized (4' wide or 6-foot
doubles) that is a 2-Hour Rated Fire Door with a matching rated steel
jamb.

Garage catches on fire, you really don't want that headed upstairs via
the stairwell, so the integrity must be restored. And the HOA Board
will have kittens if you don't ask them first...

I would NOT try hauling any iron up the stairs, even a "lightweight"
machine will be a stretch and can overstress the floor more than a
waterbed - and some Condos forbid them. And you have neighbors on
either side who will complain if you make noise and vibration, even 9
to 5 - some people work nights and/or have no life. Wood framed
floors will vibrate like a huge drumhead and transmit the sound.


And there are some buildings that have odd units tucked into the
corner that get an oversized garage, but you almost have to study the
floorplans and buy into a brand new building to get that choice unit.
(Most people would see that as a liability, but you would consider it
a bonus.)

Or there might be an "Unused" HOA storage room off the garage that you
can rent from the HOA for a low monthly rate, and fit it out into a
shop area. I know a few buildings that have a 20 X 40 storage room
that has no defined usage (other than the power meters on one wall)
and gets filled up with old crap... Clean up the clutter, and put a
wall up so you keep the meter readers out.

And there are the underground open garage style buildings that have
several "dead corner" spaces that nobody can park in. Put up a
curtain wall, run in a power line, and there's a little shop space.

Read the CC&R's and the HOA Rules paperwork early on - look for any
obvious "Gotcha's" before you buy and get blind-sided by them.

--<< Bruce >>--

Karl Townsend

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Feb 3, 2010, 6:13:41 AM2/3/10
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> If you don't already own the condo...
>
> Look for one with a garage and a "Bonus Room" on the ground floor,
> with a nice concrete slab floor. It's a popular floorplan around Los
> Angeles area, and the Bonus Room can easily be converted to a Home
> Shop.

Don't own it yet. Very likely will soon. I think price of housing may start
to recover in a year and I'll buy then. I do know the place will be in 'cane
country - no first floor enclosures. Can't afford the houses there unless I
win the lottery. So, it will be your basic two bedroom unit on second floor.
As a plus, they are concrete structures. I should be able to fill a room
with my toys.

Karl


Wes

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Feb 3, 2010, 7:10:15 PM2/3/10
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"Karl Townsend" <karltown...@embarqmail.com> wrote:

>Sometime in the not terribly distant future I'll be living in a two bedroom
>condo. I need to make plans now or I'll go nuts with no projects.

Forgive me if I have you confused but don't you own an apple orchard?

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

Pete Keillor

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Feb 3, 2010, 7:35:25 PM2/3/10
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On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:10:15 -0500, Wes <clu...@lycos.com> wrote:

>"Karl Townsend" <karltown...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Sometime in the not terribly distant future I'll be living in a two bedroom
>>condo. I need to make plans now or I'll go nuts with no projects.
>
>Forgive me if I have you confused but don't you own an apple orchard?
>
>Wes

Yeah, I thought "Is he retiring, or just looking for a more permanent
setup in the winter?" I guess you need something to do when it's not
fishing weather. I know this is not my favorite time of year for
fishing here in Texas, although my brother tears up the reds in deep
holes in the river in the winter. It's actually against the law to
pick up specks which turn to cordwood in the cold snaps such as last
month.

Pete Keillor

Larry Jaques

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Feb 5, 2010, 10:27:22 AM2/5/10
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On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:10:15 -0500, the infamous Wes
<clu...@lycos.com> scrawled the following:

>"Karl Townsend" <karltown...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Sometime in the not terribly distant future I'll be living in a two bedroom
>>condo. I need to make plans now or I'll go nuts with no projects.
>
>Forgive me if I have you confused but don't you own an apple orchard?

Evidently, Karl's out of his tree, as it were.

--
Imagination is the beginning of creation. You imagine what you desire,
you will what you imagine and at last you create what you will.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Mark Rand

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Feb 5, 2010, 4:37:03 PM2/5/10
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On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:10:15 -0500, Wes <clu...@lycos.com> wrote:

>"Karl Townsend" <karltown...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Sometime in the not terribly distant future I'll be living in a two bedroom
>>condo. I need to make plans now or I'll go nuts with no projects.
>
>Forgive me if I have you confused but don't you own an apple orchard?
>
>Wes

Ditto.

Has something happened that we should worry about?


Regards
Mark Rand
RTFM

Don Foreman

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Feb 6, 2010, 12:02:28 AM2/6/10
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On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 09:38:25 -0500, "Karl Townsend"
<karltown...@embarqmail.com> wrote:

>Sometime in the not terribly distant future I'll be living in a two bedroom
>condo. I need to make plans now or I'll go nuts with no projects.
>
>Anyway, I seen this near where I live:
>http://cgi.ebay.com/Emco-Maier-EMCOTURN-120P-CNC-LATHE-Emcotronic-TM02_W0QQitemZ230430357236QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Lathes?hash=item35a6b836f4
>
>Is this thing light enough to go up a set of stairs and live in a spare
>bedroom? (er small shop) Is it a high quality lathe for its size?

It's about 500 lb, so about like a 5 foot upright piano.

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