MORE FauxFrauds
Cliff
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/fox-news-runs-old-palin-c_n_362897.html
"Fox News Runs Old Palin Campaign Footage, Reports It As Book-Signing Crowds
[UPDATE]"
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20091119/ts_ynews/ynews_ts988_5
[
For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under fire for
misusing old news footage. The latest flap is leading some people to charge that
the cable news network is intentionally misleading its audience, while Fox
claims a "production error."
Wednesday's incident occurred when Fox News host Gregg Jarrett mentioned that a
Sarah Palin appearance and book signing in Grand Rapids, Michigan had a massive
turnout. As footage rolled of a smiling and waving Palin amidst a throng of
fans, Jarrett noted that the former Republican vice-presidential candidate is
"continuing to draw huge crowds while she's promoting her brand-new book,''
adding that the images being shown were "some of the pictures just coming in to
us.... The lines earlier had formed this morning."
However, the video used in the segment was from a 2008 McCain/Palin campaign
rally.
]
http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2009/11/fox_news_uses_misleading_foota.html
[
During Fox News' coverage of Sarah Palin's "Going Rogue" kickoff Wednesday, host
Gregg Jarrett talked about the huge crowds the former Alaska governor and GOP
vice presidential candidate was drawing on the road.
The show, "Happening Now" aired in the afternoon, before the first signing took
place Wednesday night at the Woodland Mall Barnes & Noble in Kentwood. He
claimed Palin was "continuing to draw huge crowds" on her promotional tour,
which is a weird enough thing to say before said tour has even officially kicked
off.
But, as Think Progress points out, the footage used over the report is actually
from the 2008 presidential campaign. Doesn't look much like Woodland Mall,
anyway. You can even see McCain-Palin signs:
]
" ... a weird enough thing to say before said tour has even officially kicked
off."
"You can even see McCain-Palin signs"
Stupid wingers just never learn .. their lies get caught. And caught. And
caught.
--
Cliff
Gray Ghost
news:f9tfg5d85hgojvcau...@4ax.com:
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/fox-news-runs-old-palin-c_n_36289
> 7.html
The Huffington Post?
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Cough, cough.
--
�Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel
of envy, its inherent value is the equal sharing of misery.� Winston
Churchill
Cliff
"Stupid wingers just never learn .. their lies get caught. And caught And
caught."
....the_pc_jellllybean!!.!!!!.
"Winston_Smith" <not_...@bogus.net> wrote in message
news:59ahg5ddf1ovf7t7o...@4ax.com...
> Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>
>>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/fox-news-runs-old-palin-c_n_362897.html
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20091119/ts_ynews/ynews_ts988_5
>>For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under fire for
>>misusing old news footage.
>
> death care and his collapsing economy.
>
> Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at the
> hands of a socialist, now does it?
What "collapsing economy", dipshit?
And what "dead nation", dipshit?
Man you rightards are so fucking funny with egg all over your ugly mugs.
Lookout
wrote:
>Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>
>>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/fox-news-runs-old-palin-c_n_362897.html
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20091119/ts_ynews/ynews_ts988_5
>>For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under fire for
>>misusing old news footage.
>
>I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off of Obama's
>death care and his collapsing economy.
>
>Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at the
>hands of a socialist, now does it?
But that's not happening. You're lying.
Scott
news:3a71rd....@news.alt.net...
>
> "Winston_Smith" <not_...@bogus.net> wrote in message
> news:59ahg5ddf1ovf7t7o...@4ax.com...
>> Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>
>>>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/fox-news-runs-old-palin-c_n_362897.html
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20091119/ts_ynews/ynews_ts988_5
>>>For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under fire
>>>for
>>>misusing old news footage.
>>
>> I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off of Obama's
>> death care and his collapsing economy.
>>
>> Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at the
>> hands of a socialist, now does it?
>
> What "collapsing economy", dipshit?
Your head up your ass or in the sand?
> And what "dead nation", dipshit?
>
> Man you rightards are so fucking funny with egg all over your ugly mugs.
Dont worry, when you leftards and that lying sack of shit Obama get done
fucking this 4 years up, you can look forward to having your asses handed to
you by Palin.
Too_Many_Tools
> Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
> >http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/fox-news-runs-old-palin-c_n_...
> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20091119/ts_ynews/ynews_ts988_5
> >For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under fire for
> >misusing old news footage.
>
> death care and his collapsing economy.
>
> Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at the
> hands of a socialist, now does it?
Making excuses for Faux News now Winston?
TMT
Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
> Not a bit. I'm just wondering why the leftist wingers are so fixated on
> it in the face of so many real problems.
I can't speak for that straw man but personally I am interested in
destroying any concentration of power which threatens my nation.
--
Regards, Curly
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2012 Run, Sarah, Run! 2012
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Buerste
> on it in the face of so many real problems.
It's all they got! Especially now that Gore's scam has been exposed and
he'll probably lose his Nobel Prize, healthcare votes cost .2 Billion$,
unemployment is 10%+ and rising, terrorists will be released in NYC,
President Wee-Wee is shriveling up under the strain, leading Democrat
Congressman gets 13 years in the slammer, libtards screwed-up the flu
vaccine, States are bankrupt and Palin's book is selling like hotcakes.
BUT, FOX PLAYED THE WRONG VIDEO! FOX PLAYED THE WRONG VIDEO! FOX PLAYED
THE WRONG VIDEO!
At least they have their priorities straight!
Gunner Asch
wrote:
Short, savage and exceedingly accurate.
Very well done, Tom..very well done indeed.
Gunner
"Aren't cats Libertarian? They just want to be left alone.
I think our dog is a Democrat, as he is always looking for a handout"
Unknown Usnet Poster
Heh, heh, I'm pretty sure my dog is a liberal - he has no balls.
Keyton
Mitchell Holman
news:hS6Om.68755$Wf2....@newsfe23.iad:
Maybe Fox should do what they always do when the news
is bad for them - crank up yet more protracted updates on
the Natalie Holloway story that is their staple diversionary
story.............
Mitchell Holman
news:aplhg5h78m6b5o46v...@4ax.com:
> Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Nov 21, 9:01�pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote:
>>> Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>> >http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/fox-news-runs-old-palin-c_n
>>> >_...
>>> > �http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20091119/ts_ynews/ynews_ts988_5
>>> >For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under
>>> >fire for misusing old news footage.
>>>
>>> I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off of
>>> Obama's death care and his collapsing economy.
>>>
>>> Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at the
>>> hands of a socialist, now does it?
>>
>>Making excuses for Faux News now Winston?
>
> Not a bit. I'm just wondering why the leftist wingers are so fixated
> on it in the face of so many real problems.
How many of those "real problems" DIDN'T start
under the last president?
Cliff
>Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>
>>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/fox-news-runs-old-palin-c_n_362897.html
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20091119/ts_ynews/ynews_ts988_5
>>For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under fire for
>>misusing old news footage.
>
>I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off of Obama's
>death care and his collapsing economy.
>
>Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at the
>hands of a socialist, now does it?
Trying to change the subject ....
Your head is on backwards but don't look now.
--
Cliff
Cliff
>Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>
>>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/fox-news-runs-old-palin-c_n_362897.html
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20091119/ts_ynews/ynews_ts988_5
>>For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under fire for
>>misusing old news footage.
>
>I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off of Obama's
>death care
The current plans does death quite nicely.
Get sick, lose care, die.
Cancer treatment as an example, is down a lot.
It's hurt a stocks I own due to fewer people
getting care.
Pretty good, right?
>and his collapsing economy.
The bushco economy.
>Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at the
>hands of a socialist, now does it?
Wingers lie.
Faux keeps getting caught at it.
--
Cliff
cncmillgil
wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:01:26 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote:
> >Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>
> >>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/fox-news-runs-old-palin-c_n_...
> >>For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under fire for
> >>misusing old news footage.
>
> >I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off of Obama's
> >death care
>
> The current plans does death quite nicely.
> Get sick, lose care, die.
>
> Cancer treatment as an example, is down a lot.
> It's hurt a stocks I own due to fewer people
> getting care.
> Pretty good, right?
>
> >and his collapsing economy.
>
> The bushco economy.
>
> >Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at the
> >hands of a socialist, now does it?
>
> Wingers lie.
> Faux keeps getting caught at it.
> --
> Cliff
So whats CNBC & AP's problem?
--
Gil
Cliff
>On Nov 21, 11:43�pm, Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySurmudg...@live.com>
>wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:01:26 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at the
>> > hands of a socialist, now does it?
>>
>> No, it doesn't. �Are we to make a choice between lies and the U.S.S.R.? �
>> Is it right to permit a federal licensee to lie using the public airwaves
>> because socialism is bad?
>>
>> I fail to grok the relationship. �There will always be tragedies and bad
>> players. �Why should that prevent eradicating lesser evils? �Do I ignore
>> the tape worms because I have a hernia?
>>
>> Even if your assertion were true it does not, in any way, justify turning
>> a blind eye to the lies, deceit, propaganda, and misdirections of Fox
>> "News." �I don't understand why you'd put your reputation in the same
>> basket as Fox "News."
>>
>> --
>> Regards, Curly
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------�---
>> � �2012 � � � � � � � � � � � Run, Sarah, Run! � � � � � � � � � � � 2012
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------�---
>
>Obama's failure to reinstate The Fairness Doctrine illustrates his
>corporate subservience.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_Doctrine
Wingers could not stand it.
Too much truth.
http://www.newshounds.us/2007/06/28/fair_and_balanced_fox_fears_fairness_doctrine.php
""Fair and balanced" FOX fears Fairness Doctrine"
--
Cliff
Cliff
wrote:
>On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:01:51 -0800 (PST), lorad <lora...@cs.com> wrote:
>
>>On Nov 21, 11:43�pm, Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySurmudg...@live.com>
>>wrote:
>>> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:01:26 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at the
>>> > hands of a socialist, now does it?
>>>
>>> No, it doesn't. �Are we to make a choice between lies and the U.S.S.R.? �
>>> Is it right to permit a federal licensee to lie using the public airwaves
>>> because socialism is bad?
>>>
>>> I fail to grok the relationship. �There will always be tragedies and bad
>>> players. �Why should that prevent eradicating lesser evils? �Do I ignore
>>> the tape worms because I have a hernia?
>>>
>>> Even if your assertion were true it does not, in any way, justify turning
>>> a blind eye to the lies, deceit, propaganda, and misdirections of Fox
>>> "News." �I don't understand why you'd put your reputation in the same
>>> basket as Fox "News."
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards, Curly
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------�---
>>> � �2012 � � � � � � � � � � � Run, Sarah, Run! � � � � � � � � � � � 2012
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------�---
>>
>>Obama's failure to reinstate The Fairness Doctrine illustrates his
>>corporate subservience.
>
>Obamas failure to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine simply reveals how
>close to outright bloody Revolution the United States really is.
>
>If he had tried...it would only have brought the inevitable..that much
>faster.
>
>Gunner
>
>"Aren't cats Libertarian? They just want to be left alone.
>I think our dog is a Democrat, as he is always looking for a handout"
> Unknown Usnet Poster
>
>Heh, heh, I'm pretty sure my dog is a liberal - he has no balls.
> Keyton
Since when is it Obama's fault that wingers lie?
--
Cliff
Buerste
"Mitchell Holman" <noe...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Buerste
Or, the one before that? Or, the Congress?
Poetic Justice
get that 2% of the population that's sexually confused....
Curly Surmudgeon
> They SHOULD get some attractive blonds dipped in make-up to do stories!
How did you escape the Bozo Bin? Has it been 30 days already?
Back in the box, Bozo...
--
Regards, Curly
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2012 Run, Sarah, Run! 2012
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Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
Why the artificial threshold of "start under the last president"?
Truman had a famous plaque on his desk that said, "The Buck Stops Here".
I find it ludicrous that the Bushbots blamed Clinton for 8 years then,
when Bush left office, claim everything is Obama's responsibility as if
your guy had nothing to do with anything and his 8 years of malfeasance
never occurred.
Mitchell Holman
@newsfe12.iad:
When Bush took office there was no Iraq Quagmire,
no Afghan Quagmire, no deficit and low unemployment.
By the time he left there was a record deficit, TWO
quagmire wars, the worst recession in generations
and a stock market that had actually LOST value.
Not that the Blame Obama First crowd would notice....
"The Obama recession is in full swing, ladies and gentlemen.
Stocks are dying, which is a precursor of things to come. This
is an Obama recession. Might turn into a depression."
Rush Limbaugh, November 6, 2008. Obama was the junior senator
from Illinois at the time.
Mitchell Holman
news:SmeOm.36693$6c2....@newsfe03.iad:
> Buerste wrote:
>> "Mitchell Holman" <noe...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9CCB5F2B636C8...@216.196.97.130...
>>> "Buerste" <bue...@wowway.com> wrote in
>>> news:hS6Om.68755$Wf2....@newsfe23.iad:
>>>
>>>> "Winston_Smith" <not_...@bogus.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:aplhg5h78m6b5o46v...@4ax.com...
>>>>> Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 21, 9:01 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>>>>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/fox-news-runs-old-palin
>>>>>>>> -c_ n_...
Is that any way to talk about Mary Cheney?
Mitchell Holman
news:hec0bk$nat$3...@news.eternal-september.org:
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:21:53 -0600, Mitchell Holman
> <noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Winston_Smith <not_...@bogus.net> wrote in
>> news:aplhg5h78m6b5o46v...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Nov 21, 9:01 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote:
>>>>> Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>>>> >http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/fox-news-runs-old-palin-c
>>>>> >_n _...
>>>>> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20091119/ts_ynews/ynews_ts988_5
>>>>> >For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under
>>>>> >fire for misusing old news footage.
>>>>>
>>>>> I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off of
>>>>> Obama's death care and his collapsing economy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at
>>>>> the hands of a socialist, now does it?
>>>>
>>>>Making excuses for Faux News now Winston?
>>>
>>> Not a bit. I'm just wondering why the leftist wingers are so
>>> fixated on it in the face of so many real problems.
>>
>>
>>
>> How many of those "real problems" DIDN'T start
>> under the last president?
>
> Why the artificial threshold of "start under the last president"?
>
> Truman had a famous plaque on his desk that said, "The Buck Stops
> Here". I find it ludicrous that the Bushbots blamed Clinton for 8
> years then, when Bush left office, claim everything is Obama's
> responsibility as if your guy had nothing to do with anything and his
> 8 years of malfeasance never occurred.
>
Jan 20, 2009: The day when everything went from
being Clinton's fault to being Obama's fault.
Curly Surmudgeon
Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
> Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:16:46 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_...@bogus.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>> Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Nov 21, 9:01 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote:
>>>>> Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>>>> >http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/fox-news-runs-old-palin-
>>c_n_...
>>>>> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20091119/ts_ynews/ynews_ts988_5
>>>>> >For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under
>>>>> >fire for misusing old news footage.
>>>>>
>>>>> I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off of
>>>>> Obama's death care and his collapsing economy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at the
>>>>> hands of a socialist, now does it?
>>>>
>>>>Making excuses for Faux News now Winston?
>>>
>>> Not a bit. I'm just wondering why the leftist wingers are so fixated
>>> on it in the face of so many real problems.
>>
>>I can't speak for that straw man but personally I am interested in
>>destroying any concentration of power which threatens my nation.
>
> I suggest you take a close look at the one party system currently
> operating in Washington. It's every bit as bad as the one we had in the
> first Bush term and you were quite critical of that.
Actually I agree that the Democrats are incapable of governing according
to the principles of our Constitution. What I am unwilling to do at this
point is to undermine Obama. Not until the economic crisis is resolved
one way or the other.
I do see the dangers of socialism and do not like them. I also
understand that a disintegrating federal government is an even bigger
danger. Perhaps you've not experienced a society in civil war and non-
functional central government. That is even worse that what we now have.
The economy is Obama's Dan Quayle.
Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
> All of them started under Bush.
Close, Bush inherited many of these problems when they were infants
however his policies and actions brought them to fruition.
> Now then. What's Obama planning to do with the mess he inherited and
> when do you suppose he will start?
That is the real issue, how do we get out of this quagmire. We disagree
that Obama has done nothing. The economic disintegration was halted and
markets are stabilizing. This may be a temporary situation as the
fundamentals haven't change much however the use of shock therapy carries
its own dangers.
For instance allowing BofA, Chase, AIG and Goldman to collapse would have
made 1931 look like a walk in the park. There were no good options, this
situation will take decades to repair and I still have hopes that those
who are "too big to fail" will be broken up and those who have been
terribly mismanaged will be allowed to fail.
> Or is the plan to just bitch about FOX until the economy fixes itself or
> collapses taking the nation with it?
>
> Bush went for eight years blaming everything on Clinton. From your
> reply, it looks like Obama is going to nothing constructive for his
> eight years while blaming everything on Bush.
We disagree. Obama is being true to his election promises even if he's
altered course on some issues or changed his mind on others. America is
getting what it voted for. Neither of us like what America voted for but
don't mischaracterize actions taken as "nothing."
> I was hoping for "hope". I was hoping for "change". What I got was the
> audacity of failure.
That chapter hasn't been written yet.
Mitchell Holman
news:6e7jg5pte9esspcu8...@4ax.com:
> All of them started under Bush.
>
> Now then. What's Obama planning to do with the mess he inherited and
> when do you suppose he will start?
>
> Or is the plan to just bitch about FOX until the economy fixes itself
> or collapses taking the nation with it?
>
> Bush went for eight years blaming everything on Clinton. From your
> reply, it looks like Obama is going to nothing constructive for his
> eight years while blaming everything on Bush.
>
> I was hoping for "hope". I was hoping for "change". What I got was
> the audacity of failure.
Indeed. A president who does nothing as unemployment
soars to new levels in his first year in office even as
a recession he inherited deepens is well described as
a failure.
Unless, of course, his last name is REAGAN.......
"The unemployment rate in the U.S. reached 10.8% in
December 1982 � higher than at any time in post-war era.
Job cutbacks were particularly severe in housing, steel
and automobiles. By September 1982, the jobless rate
reached 10.8%. Twelve million people were unemployed,
an increase of 4.2 million people since July 1981.
Unemployment rates for every major group reached post-
war highs, with men age 20 and over particularly hard hit."
http://investment-blog.net/us-double-digits-unemployment-rate-of-1980-
1981-vs-2008-2009-single-digit/
Gunner Asch
<noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
>"The unemployment rate in the U.S. reached 10.8% in
>December 1982 � higher than at any time in post-war era.
Then of course you Leftards voted in the Obmassiah..and unemployment
rates are now up to 16%
Sucks to be you eh?
Laugh laugh laugh
Buerste
"Curly Surmudgeon" <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote in message
news:hec06a$nat$3...@news.eternal-september.org...
Awww, has your echo chamber sprung a leak? Stick to your masturbatory
banter with the other brain-dead libtards. OBTW...<plonk>
Hawke
>
> Now then. What's Obama planning to do with the mess he inherited and
> when do you suppose he will start?
>
> Or is the plan to just bitch about FOX until the economy fixes itself
> or collapses taking the nation with it?
>
> Bush went for eight years blaming everything on Clinton. From your
> reply, it looks like Obama is going to nothing constructive for his
> eight years while blaming everything on Bush.
>
> I was hoping for "hope". I was hoping for "change". What I got was
> the audacity of failure.
Two wars, a great recession, a near collapse of the banking system, and
you're bitching that Obama hasn't fixed them all yet. He is a capable
guy but he's not superman. It took Bush several years to create this
mess. The least you can do is give Obama a few years before declaring
him a failure.
Hawke
Hawke
> and automobiles. By September 1982, the jobless rate
> reached 10.8%. Twelve million people were unemployed,
> an increase of 4.2 million people since July 1981.
> Unemployment rates for every major group reached post-
> war highs, with men age 20 and over particularly hard hit."
>
> http://investment-blog.net/us-double-digits-unemployment-rate-of-1980-
> 1981-vs-2008-2009-single-digit/
What you will also find if you go back and look at the records is that
at that time Reagan was not very popular either. His numbers were low as
was the economy. His popularity went way up. Guess when? When the
economy got going again then he became a popular president. If Obama is
lucky enough to get this mess fixed when things turn around his
popularity will skyrocket. But with 10% unemployment anybody's
popularity is going to suffer.
Hawke
Hawke
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:38:32 -0600, Mitchell Holman
> <noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> "The unemployment rate in the U.S. reached 10.8% in
>
>
> Then of course you Leftards voted in the Obmassiah..and unemployment
> rates are now up to 16%
>
> Sucks to be you eh?
>
> Laugh laugh laugh
>
> Gunner
No, it sucks to be you, the old, unemployed, broke, mired in debt,
deadbeat, that lives in Taft. Everybody wants to be just like you, Ha Ha Ha.
Hawke
Hawke
> Mitchell Holman <noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Winston_Smith <not_...@bogus.net> wrote >
>
>>> when do you suppose he will start?
>>>
>>> Or is the plan to just bitch about FOX until the economy fixes itself
>>> or collapses taking the nation with it?
>>>
>>> Bush went for eight years blaming everything on Clinton. From your
>>> reply, it looks like Obama is going to nothing constructive for his
>>> eight years while blaming everything on Bush.
>>>
>>> I was hoping for "hope". I was hoping for "change". What I got was
>>> the audacity of failure.
>> Indeed. A president who does nothing as unemployment
>> soars to new levels in his first year in office even as
>> a recession he inherited deepens is well described as
>> a failure.
>>
>> Unless, of course, his last name is REAGAN.......
>
> right now Obama is doing the same thing you charge Reagan with?
>
> I guess we know which kind of political hack you are.
>
> Hint for the future - I'm not a defender of either party so save the
> baiting. They are each worse than the other one.
>
> Since you defend Obama and think it's awful to ignore unemployment,
> perhaps you can tell us what Obama is planning to do about it. And
> maybe a hint when he might get around to starting?
What would you have him do that he isn't already doing? He's spending
money to try to stimulate the economy. What more should he be doing? You
need to read some economics. A president can only do so much to make the
economy work. He's doing everything he can right now. If you have some
new ideas that that professional economists have never thought of you
should contact Washington. I'm sure they would be glad to get your insight.
Hawke
miles
> Two wars, a great recession, a near collapse of the banking system, and
> you're bitching that Obama hasn't fixed them all yet.
lol, Obama has pushed it even worse!! Deficit spending in first 100
days dwarfs that of Bush's 8 years or all other presidents combined for
that matter. He campaigned saying he would not raise taxes for 95% of
the workforce. Yet, this current health bill has 17 new taxes and
increases in many more that will hit just about everyone. Obama said he
could stop inflation at 8% if he got his way. He did and unemployment
is now near 10% and rising. His excuse? Obama blames his failures on
Bush. Our own president cops out on his own words. Thats not strength,
thats not leadership. But it is a typical liberal who wont take
responsibility for his own words nor actions.
miles
> What would you have him do that he isn't already doing? He's spending
> money to try to stimulate the economy.
No he isn't. Most of the billions in porkulus money won't be spent for
years to come. Only about 10% has been spent so far. Obama said it
needed to be spent immediately for infrastructure building to put people
to work. Fact is, such projects won't even start planning for some time
to come.
Freestyle
> Winston_Smith wrote:
> > Mitchell Holman <noem...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote >
I'm afraid your logic is lost on the wingnut faithful.
Republicons and their paranoid followers cannot learn from or admit to
the mistakes.
They will simply hate Obama no matter what he does or stands for.
It is the last and sole purpose of the dying GOP.
The utter gaul of course being they have the audacity to blame him for
their mess and whine that he's not cleaning it up fast enough.
ATP*
"Hawke" <davesm...@digitalpath.net> wrote in message
news:hecvk8$q8t$1...@aioe.org...
I think a lot of businesses have recently gotten rid of deadwood that they
should have fired years ago. Tired, cranky know it alls that spend a good
portion of the day bitching instead of working. After they get rid of these
goldbricks, they find production doesn't really suffer.
....the_pc_jellllybean!!.!!!!.
"miles" <no...@nopers.com> wrote in message
news:UxnOm.31088$ZF3....@newsfe13.iad...
> Hawke wrote:
>
>> Two wars, a great recession, a near collapse of the banking system, and
>> you're bitching that Obama hasn't fixed them all yet.
>
> lol, Obama has pushed it even worse!! Deficit spending in first 100 days
> dwarfs that of Bush's 8 years
So if the roles were reversed, you dont think Bush would have to spend money
on fixing the shit he got handed?
Man you are totally brainless.
Gray Ghost
news:1igjg55ovmisv9ao6...@4ax.com:
> Mitchell Holman <noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>Winston_Smith <not_...@bogus.net> wrote >
>
>>> Now then. What's Obama planning to do with the mess he inherited and
>>> when do you suppose he will start?
>>>
>>> Or is the plan to just bitch about FOX until the economy fixes itself
>>> or collapses taking the nation with it?
>>>
>>> Bush went for eight years blaming everything on Clinton. From your
>>> reply, it looks like Obama is going to nothing constructive for his
>>> eight years while blaming everything on Bush.
>>>
>>> I was hoping for "hope". I was hoping for "change". What I got was
>>> the audacity of failure.
>>
>> Indeed. A president who does nothing as unemployment
>>soars to new levels in his first year in office even as
>>a recession he inherited deepens is well described as
>>a failure.
>>
>> Unless, of course, his last name is REAGAN.......
>
> Interesting. It's wrong when Reagan did it, but it's just fine that
> right now Obama is doing the same thing you charge Reagan with?
>
> I guess we know which kind of political hack you are.
>
> Hint for the future - I'm not a defender of either party so save the
> baiting. They are each worse than the other one.
>
> Since you defend Obama and think it's awful to ignore unemployment,
> perhaps you can tell us what Obama is planning to do about it. And
> maybe a hint when he might get around to starting?
Oh, oh, i know the anmswer to that one. He's gonna hold an unemployment
summit. After he get's back from bowing to all of Asia and wrecking the
financial future of this country.
>
>>"The unemployment rate in the U.S. reached 10.8% in
>>December 1982 � higher than at any time in post-war era.
>>Job cutbacks were particularly severe in housing, steel
>>and automobiles. By September 1982, the jobless rate
>>reached 10.8%. Twelve million people were unemployed,
>>an increase of 4.2 million people since July 1981.
>>Unemployment rates for every major group reached post-
>>war highs, with men age 20 and over particularly hard hit."
>>
>><http://investment-blog.net/us-double-digits-unemployment-rate-of-1980-198
>>1-vs-2008-2009-single-digit/>
>
>
--
�Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel
of envy, its inherent value is the equal sharing of misery.� Winston
Churchill
Cliff
>Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:01:26 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_...@bogus.net> wrote:
>
>>>I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off of Obama's
>>>death care
>>
>> The current plans does death quite nicely.
>> Get sick, lose care, die.
>
>ObamaCare
> Get sick,
> flunky out holds hand and tells you how nice it is to die,
> die.
PLEASE find out what it's about !!!
You need not always look the fool.
>>>and his collapsing economy.
>
>> The bushco economy.
>
>True. What's Obama planning to do to fix it and when do you suppose
>he will start?
Took the rethugs about 10 years & bushco about 8 to do a real
good job.
NOW you expect Obama to find & wave a magic wand & just make
their years of hard work vanish?
>>>Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at the
>>>hands of a socialist, now does it?
>>
>> Wingers lie.
>> Faux keeps getting caught at it.'
>
>Leftist Wingers keep posting red herrings to take the heat off Obama's
>ongoing failures. The audacity of failure. I had "hoped" for better.
>It's Bush all over again. Not a bit of difference.
BS.
OTOH We could have elected a progressive rather than a centrist ...
but that was not one of the final choices.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayoral_administration_of_Dennis_Kucinich
Not that I liked everything in his platform ....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Kucinich
At least we now have a Statesman as well as a smart
person.
Stupidity can only take wingers & rethugs so far ....
--
Cliff
Cliff
>s...@above.com wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:37:44 -0700, Winston_Smith
>><not_...@bogus.net> wrote:
>>
>>>ObamaCare
>>> Get sick,
>>> flunky out holds hand and tells you how nice it is to die,
>>> die.
>>
>>That and 10 other wet-dreams are still only that.
>
>You call being left to die with no treatment a wet dream?
No, it's rethug & Palin's policy.
>You must be
>one of the leftist winger boys.
Like medical care for all .....
--
Cliff
miles
> So if the roles were reversed, you dont think Bush would have to spend money
> on fixing the shit he got handed?
Nope. Spending isn't fixing a thing. Only about 10% of the porkulus
package has been spent and most won't be spent for years to come. The
idea of all this infrastructure building to provide jobs is a hoax that
you bought. Heck, the Government can't even tell us where the 10% has
been spent yet. Congressional districts in Virgin Islands and Puerto
Rico got stimulus money????????
Mitchell Holman
news:6eejg5l2ssk95sn1e...@4ax.com:
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:38:32 -0600, Mitchell Holman
> <noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>"The unemployment rate in the U.S. reached 10.8% in
>>December 1982 � higher than at any time in post-war era.
>
>
> Then of course you Leftards voted in the Obmassiah..and unemployment
> rates are now up to 16%
Unemployment rose under Reagan for TWO YEARS.
Where was your talk about "failed presidency" then?
Modern Conservative: Someone who ignored unemployment
as it rose under Reagan, as it rose under Bush, as it
shrank under Clinton, as it rose under Bush, and who
now suddenly pretends to care about unemployment.
Harold Burton
Mitchell Holman <noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in
> news:6eejg5l2ssk95sn1e...@4ax.com:
>
> > On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:38:32 -0600, Mitchell Holman
> > <noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >>"The unemployment rate in the U.S. reached 10.8% in
> >>December 1982 � higher than at any time in post-war era.
> >
> >
> > Then of course you Leftards voted in the Obmassiah..and unemployment
> > rates are now up to 16%
>
>
>
> Unemployment rose under Reagan for TWO YEARS.
>
> Where was your talk about "failed presidency" then?
On various BBSs.
Snicker.
Scott
"Winston_Smith" <not_...@bogus.net> wrote in message
news:59ahg5ddf1ovf7t7o...@4ax.com...
> Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>
>>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/fox-news-runs-old-palin-c_n_362897.html
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20091119/ts_ynews/ynews_ts988_5
>>For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under fire for
>>misusing old news footage.
>
>
> Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at the
> hands of a socialist, now does it?
The moonbats should be real happy with Obey and Levin.
More blackmail from the socialist idiots.
Pay for and agree with our health care bill, or we tax your ass off for
Aghanistan.
Choose.
Mitchell Holman
0E6301.221...@news.newsguy.com:
You weren't evem alive then,
what would you know?
Gunner Asch
"Two top Democrats say they want to impose a new tax on the wealthy to
finance any increase in U.S. troops for the Afghanistan war. "
Given that there are more Rich Democrats in Congress than Rich
Republicans..by a significant number...wont it be cool to have the
Democrats footing the bill for the war in Afghanistan?
<VBG>
Gunner
Gunner Asch
<noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
>Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in
>news:6eejg5l2ssk95sn1e...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:38:32 -0600, Mitchell Holman
>> <noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>"The unemployment rate in the U.S. reached 10.8% in
>>>December 1982 � higher than at any time in post-war era.
>>
>>
>> Then of course you Leftards voted in the Obmassiah..and unemployment
>> rates are now up to 16%
>
>
>
> Unemployment rose under Reagan for TWO YEARS.
>
> Where was your talk about "failed presidency" then?
>
It rose to 27%??????
Laugh laugh laugh laugh
Gunner
>
Scott
"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
news:j8umg59mjrl6a8dg3...@4ax.com...
Dare to dream.
What they are doing is legislating blackmail.
No more troops unless we get our bullshit medical legislation passed
(absolutely packed with pork and literally dozens of new bureaucracies)., or
if we have to send more troops, then we tax your asses off and put even more
people out of work.
What happened to Obama's promises to end the wars?
Reach across the isle and unite?
And don't kid yourself, the Democrats in the House and Senate wont pay a
dime extra either way, they have health care and permanent, untouchable
pensions.
It's a shell game.
Gray Ghost
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:49:02 -0800, "Scott"
><nu...@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
>>news:j8umg59mjrl6a8dg3...@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:10:41 -0800, "Scott" <nu...@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/23/lawmakers-propose-war-surtax-
>>>>pay-troop-increase-afghanistan/
>>>
>>> "Two top Democrats say they want to impose a new tax on the wealthy to
>>> finance any increase in U.S. troops for the Afghanistan war. "
>>>
>>>
>>> Given that there are more Rich Democrats in Congress than Rich
>>> Republicans..by a significant number...wont it be cool to have the
>>> Democrats footing the bill for the war in Afghanistan?
>>
>>Dare to dream.
>
> Just wash your hands after your "dream"
>
>>What they are doing is legislating blackmail.
>
> Or seeing a senator represent their constituency very
> capably
>
>>No more troops unless we get our bullshit medical legislation passed
>>(absolutely packed with pork and literally dozens of new bureaucracies).,
>>or if we have to send more troops, then we tax your asses off and put
>>even more people out of work.
>
> SInce funneling billions to the wealth class produced
> the latest financial meltdown---how could that be bad?
>
>>What happened to Obama's promises to end the wars?
>
> Mostly impeded by trying to unravel the Bush disasters.
>
>>Reach across the isle and unite?
>
> Somehow reaching across to shake the hand of those who
> caused this mess seems stupid.
>
>>And don't kid yourself, the Democrats in the House and Senate wont pay a
>>dime extra either way, they have health care and permanent, untouchable
>>pensions.
>
> So do the class of people your party supports---
>
Alright dickhead I'll call your bluff. Bring the troops home and shove the
health bill up your ass.
Scott
"Gray Ghost" <grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9CCD670A23738We...@216.196.97.142...
> Alright dickhead I'll call your bluff. Bring the troops home and shove the
> health bill up your ass.
<plonk>
Dickhead
Gray Ghost
news:9tqdnfdEYc7mmpHW...@supernews.com:
Aww, to bad. Guess he didn't like me calling his bluff.
Gunner Asch
>On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:12:28 -0800, Gunner Asch
><gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>
>>"Two top Democrats say they want to impose a new tax on the wealthy to
>>finance any increase in U.S. troops for the Afghanistan war. "
>>
>>
>>Given that there are more Rich Democrats in Congress than Rich
>>Republicans..by a significant number...wont it be cool to have the
>>Democrats footing the bill for the war in Afghanistan?
>
>Be way cool---because those "rich democrats" won't be
>bawling and crying about it.
They have been crying about it for 7 yrs.
Gunner
Harold Burton
Mitchell Holman <noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in news:hal.i.burton-
> 0E6301.221...@news.newsguy.com:
>
> > In article <Xns9CCCD5091428F...@216.196.97.130>,
> > Mitchell Holman <noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in
> >> news:6eejg5l2ssk95sn1e...@4ax.com:
> >>
> >> > On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:38:32 -0600, Mitchell Holman
> >> > <noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>"The unemployment rate in the U.S. reached 10.8% in
> >> >>December 1982 � higher than at any time in post-war era.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Then of course you Leftards voted in the Obmassiah..and unemployment
> >> > rates are now up to 16%
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Unemployment rose under Reagan for TWO YEARS.
> >>
> >> Where was your talk about "failed presidency" then?
> >
> >
> > On various BBSs.
> >
>
>
> You weren't evem alive then,
> what would you know?
If you didn't want to hear the answer you shouldn't have asked the
question.
snicker.
Mitchell Holman
> In article <Xns9CCCE704476A7...@216.196.97.130>,
> Mitchell Holman <noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in news:hal.i.burton-
>> 0E6301.221...@news.newsguy.com:
>>
>> > In article <Xns9CCCD5091428F...@216.196.97.130>,
>> > Mitchell Holman <noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in
>> >> news:6eejg5l2ssk95sn1e...@4ax.com:
>> >>
>> >> > On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:38:32 -0600, Mitchell Holman
>> >> > <noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>"The unemployment rate in the U.S. reached 10.8% in
>> >> >>December 1982 � higher than at any time in post-war era.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Then of course you Leftards voted in the Obmassiah..and
>> >> > unemployment rates are now up to 16%
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Unemployment rose under Reagan for TWO YEARS.
>> >>
>> >> Where was your talk about "failed presidency" then?
>> >
<crickets>
Harold Burton
Mitchell Holman <noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:hal.i.burton-C455...@news.newsguy.com:
>
> > In article <Xns9CCCE704476A7...@216.196.97.130>,
> > Mitchell Holman <noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in news:hal.i.burton-
> >> 0E6301.221...@news.newsguy.com:
> >>
> >> > In article <Xns9CCCD5091428F...@216.196.97.130>,
> >> > Mitchell Holman <noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in
> >> >> news:6eejg5l2ssk95sn1e...@4ax.com:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:38:32 -0600, Mitchell Holman
> >> >> > <noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>"The unemployment rate in the U.S. reached 10.8% in
> >> >> >>December 1982 � higher than at any time in post-war era.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Then of course you Leftards voted in the Obmassiah..and
> >> >> > unemployment rates are now up to 16%
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Unemployment rose under Reagan for TWO YEARS.
> >> >>
> >> >> Where was your talk about "failed presidency" then?
> >> >
> > > On various BBSs.
> > You weren't evem alive then,
> > what would you know?
> If you didn't want to hear the answer you shouldn't have asked the
> question.
> <crickets>
Indeed!
Snicker.