Western snow plow with all hydraulics and controller
Ignoramus30639
Pete C.
Ignoramus30639 wrote:
>
> Would you say it is worth $220? if it works?
It's 1/10 of the new cost for the cheapest ones.
Ignoramus30639
OK, I just brought it home. I will try to adapt it to my Chevy for the
next winter. I may have to tinker with the control a little bit. I
have very little clue how snowplows work. I may need to do some
welding to adapt it to my truck.
i
Pete C.
Snowplows work by pushing snow :)
There are very minimal controls on one, some are power lift only and
some have power angle. Most have solenoid valve control, but I think a
few used mechanical push-pull cable control to the valve(s). Electric
hydraulic pump, with a contactor to turn it on whenever a control is
moved. Welding mount adapters should be the bulk of the project.
Ignoramus30639
>
> Ignoramus30639 wrote:
>>
>> On 2010-03-25, Pete C. <aux3....@snet.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Ignoramus30639 wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Would you say it is worth $220? if it works?
>> >
>> > It's 1/10 of the new cost for the cheapest ones.
>>
>> OK, I just brought it home. I will try to adapt it to my Chevy for the
>> next winter. I may have to tinker with the control a little bit. I
>> have very little clue how snowplows work. I may need to do some
>> welding to adapt it to my truck.
>
No kidding./ ;-)
> There are very minimal controls on one, some are power lift only and
> some have power angle. Most have solenoid valve control, but I think a
> few used mechanical push-pull cable control to the valve(s). Electric
> hydraulic pump, with a contactor to turn it on whenever a control is
> moved. Welding mount adapters should be the bulk of the project.
I think that this one has a solenoid valve control.
The control that came with it, seems beaten up, I may want to replace
it.
i
Karl Townsend
"Ignoramus30639" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.30639.invalid> wrote in message
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What's the number for the Cook county sheriff? I need to report a robbery.
I've used a snow plow like this quite bit in the past. They are REAL HARD
on your pickup. So much so, that I sold the plow and bought a snow blower.
I went through two auto trannies and had to have the frame mounting
re-welded. But I did make a fair amount of cash doing parking lots.
Karl
Pete C.
Replacement parts are readily available, as are rebuild kits for seals,
Northern Tool carries a lot of them.
Ignoramus30639
>
> "Ignoramus30639" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.30639.invalid> wrote in message
> news:VeSdnfb5sMdxYTbW...@giganews.com...
>> On 2010-03-25, Pete C. <aux3....@snet.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ignoramus30639 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Would you say it is worth $220? if it works?
>>>
>>> It's 1/10 of the new cost for the cheapest ones.
>>
>> OK, I just brought it home. I will try to adapt it to my Chevy for the
>> next winter. I may have to tinker with the control a little bit. I
>> have very little clue how snowplows work. I may need to do some
>> welding to adapt it to my truck.
>>
>> i
>
> What's the number for the Cook county sheriff? I need to report a robbery.
DuPage county
> I've used a snow plow like this quite bit in the past. They are REAL HARD
> on your pickup. So much so, that I sold the plow and bought a snow blower.
> I went through two auto trannies and had to have the frame mounting
> re-welded. But I did make a fair amount of cash doing parking lots.
What kind of pickup did you have?
Could it be that you simply were too hard on your truck? Like, you
tried to push continuously?
i
jeff
<ignoram...@NOSPAM.30639.invalid> wrote:
>Would you say it is worth $220? if it works?
How do you sllep at night ?????????????? :-)
Plows are generally ok on trucks..... most any way..... some will
void warranty. If all your gonna do is your driveway then have at
it. Push snow back as far as you can your first storm because once it
freezes the the problems start.... nouthing like plowing fresh snow
and hitting a frozen snowbank,
Don't run the road with the plow mounted. The front ends of trucks
really dont like it.. Put it on before it snows, plow the snow then
take it off.
Oh Ya sleep tight, You did good
Pete C.
Pushing continuously is the easy part, the hard part is all the slamming
back and forth between forward and reverse gears and never getting
enough speed to lock the torque converter. Heat is the enemy of an
automatic transmission and that type of activity heats them up big time.
There also isn't enough airflow at those low speeds for the normal
transmission coolers to work properly.
sta...@prolynx.com
30639.invalid> wrote:
If you're smart, you'll buy the lower attachment frame for your
specific vehicle. My dad wasted weeks trying to adapt one from a
Toyota Landcruiser to his IH. Ended up getting the frame from the
dealer anyway. Took an afternoon to bolt on to existing attachment
points. The upper frame with the cylinder+pump bolted on to frame
ends. Have to have a good solid attachment. The pump was run by a
starter motor, was pretty much self-contained. He set up a set of
relays for the controller box, had swing cylinders on the plow, the
controller had cables to operate valves up front along with switches
to control the pump. The box lasted longer than the Scout did using
the relays. One problem he had was finding a straight path from the
box inside the cab to the hydraulic unit up front and center, lots of
engine stuff in the way. Could be a fairly large problem with today's
crowded engine compartments.
Stan
Ignoramus30639
Thanks. I feel a bit better. How hard is it to put the snowplow on,
how long does it take?
i
Pete C.
That depends on how well you rework the mounts. Generally, after you
have done it a few times, perhaps 15 minutes.
Ignoramus30639
Pictures:
http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Western-Snow-Plow/
> If you're smart, you'll buy the lower attachment frame for your
> specific vehicle. My dad wasted weeks trying to adapt one from a
> Toyota Landcruiser to his IH. Ended up getting the frame from the
> dealer anyway. Took an afternoon to bolt on to existing attachment
> points. The upper frame with the cylinder+pump bolted on to frame
> ends. Have to have a good solid attachment. The pump was run by a
> starter motor, was pretty much self-contained. He set up a set of
> relays for the controller box, had swing cylinders on the plow, the
> controller had cables to operate valves up front along with switches
> to control the pump. The box lasted longer than the Scout did using
> the relays. One problem he had was finding a straight path from the
> box inside the cab to the hydraulic unit up front and center, lots
> of engine stuff in the way. Could be a fairly large problem with
> today's crowded engine compartments.
Makes sense. Are all attachments going to match the plow?
i
Ignoramus30639
Ignoramus30639
> pictures
>
> http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Western-Snow-Plow/
Oh, and the truck is Chevy Silverado 2500HD, with a gas engine.
How would it survive snow plowing?
i
Pete C.
Looks good, I see it has power angle as well as lift, just what you
want.
If the truck doesn't have the snow plow prep option, you need to add an
extra transmission cooler and may need a front suspension upgrade to
handle the extra weight of the plow without sagging too much. If you're
just doing your driveway the later may not be an issue.
co_f...@yahoo.com
30639.invalid> wrote:
> On 2010-03-26, Ignoramus30639 <ignoramus30...@NOSPAM.30639.invalid> wrote:
>
> > pictures
>
> >http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Western-Snow-Plow/
>
> Oh, and the truck is Chevy Silverado 2500HD, with a gas engine.
>
> How would it survive snow plowing?
>
> i
Is that a 4X4?
Paul
Ignoramus30639
> On Mar 25, 6:50?pm, Ignoramus30639 <ignoramus30...@NOSPAM.
Yes, 4x4
Ignoramus30639
OK, I will try to find out. I thought I had a snow plow prep option,
but now I am not sure. I guess I will call the Chevy dealer.
i
Gunner Asch
<ignoram...@NOSPAM.30639.invalid> wrote:
>pictures
>
>http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Western-Snow-Plow/
You did really good Iggy.
Gunner, who has seen snow up close...5 times in the last 40 yrs
"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.
This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost
Steve W.
Well if it's a truck newer than 95 you won't find a conventional mount
plate to fit it. Western doesn't make one. They only have the mounts for
the newer minute mount style plows.
As for how well it will handle the plow. That depends a LOT on you. If
you don't plow like a fool and pay attention to whet your doing it will
handle it just fine. My plow truck is a 93 2500 and it has worn a plow
every year since new. The only thing I have replaced that I actually
attribute to the extra weight of the plow is a set of shocks and a
steering stabilizer.
I would suggest that you add two items to the truck in addition to what
it has if you plan on using the plow a LOT or if your hauling weight.
One is an additional trans cooler with a separate cooling fan on it.
Most of the racing type catalogs carry them as oil coolers for engines.
Two is a good yellow beacon light. You will want it in operation when
plowing and it doesn't hurt to run one if your loaded heavy.
--
Steve W.
pyotr filipivich
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>On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:47:06 -0500, Ignoramus30639
><ignoram...@NOSPAM.30639.invalid> wrote:
>
>>pictures
>>
>>http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Western-Snow-Plow/
>
>
>You did really good Iggy.
>
>Gunner, who has seen snow up close...5 times in the last 40 yrs
So, for you, snow is like a nice fluffy white long hair angora
cat. Real nice to look at in someone else's driveway?
-
pyotr filipivich
We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!
Karl Townsend
"Pete C." <aux3....@snet.net> wrote in message
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Pete nailed it. You're trying to use a truck as a tractor and its just not
built for it. It does help to not get in a hurry and go easy on it. Just be
forewarned, you're gonna kill your truck.
Karl
Gunner Asch
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>about Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:10:01 -0700 did write/type or cause to
>appear in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>>On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:47:06 -0500, Ignoramus30639
>><ignoram...@NOSPAM.30639.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>pictures
>>>
>>>http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Western-Snow-Plow/
>>
>>
>>You did really good Iggy.
>>
>>Gunner, who has seen snow up close...5 times in the last 40 yrs
>
> So, for you, snow is like a nice fluffy white long hair angora
>cat. Real nice to look at in someone else's driveway?
Ayup. I lost most of my love for snow, after growing up in, then
leaving Northern Michigan, where the average snow fall is 124" a year.
12 Feet of snow, 6 months out of the year..was a bit much. Now I live
in the high desert. I see snow on the tops of the mountains all around
me.
I think we had an 1/8" on the ground 4 yrs ago. Then it melted about an
hour later.
Gunner
>-
>pyotr filipivich
>We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
>It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!
Pete C.
If you have the window sticker it should say what options it has. You
could also lookup the RPO code for the snowplow prep option and check to
see if it's listed on the option label in the glove compartment.
Larry Jaques
<ignoram...@NOSPAM.30639.invalid> scrawled the following:
>On 2010-03-26, Ignoramus30639 <ignoram...@NOSPAM.30639.invalid> wrote:
>> pictures
>>
>> http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Western-Snow-Plow/
>
>Oh, and the truck is Chevy Silverado 2500HD, with a gas engine.
2 or 4WD?
>How would it survive snow plowing?
It would survive much better if you bought a snow blower. Better yet,
sell it for enough money to buy both a big blower and a snowmobile.
Your wife and kid will thank you for it. ;)
I can see a guy wanting one if he had a road which needed to be graded
and/or snow-plowed several times a year, but you're an urbanite, Ig.
Plow envy got ahold of you. I can grok it. <g>
P.S: What did your Chebby dealer and insurance company say about plow
use affecting your rates and vehicular lifetime? I'll bet you got two
big, deep, frowny faces, I do.
--
Challenges are gifts that force us to search for a new center of gravity.
Don't fight them. Just find a different way to stand.
-- Oprah Winfrey
Larry Jaques
<ph...@mindspring.com> scrawled the following:
>Let the Record show that Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> on or
>about Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:10:01 -0700 did write/type or cause to
>appear in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>>On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:47:06 -0500, Ignoramus30639
>><ignoram...@NOSPAM.30639.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>pictures
>>>
>>>http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Western-Snow-Plow/
>>
>>
>>You did really good Iggy.
>>
>>Gunner, who has seen snow up close...5 times in the last 40 yrs
>
> So, for you, snow is like a nice fluffy white long hair angora
>cat. Real nice to look at in someone else's driveway?
That's certainly the way I've always looked at it, Pete.
If y'all choose to live with snow, ice, monsoonal rains, hurricanes,
tornadoes, lightning storms, humidity, hail, wives, pets, and
children, that's your choice. I like a little less drama in my life.
Earthquakes, what I've felt so far, I can handle. ;^)
Jim Wilkins
> ...
> I can see a guy wanting one if he had a road which needed to be graded
> and/or snow-plowed several times a year, but you're an urbanite, Ig.
> Plow envy got ahold of you. I can grok it. <g>
Around here guys with plow trucks have compact tractor envy.
jsw
Ignoramus8345
> On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:50:07 -0500, the infamous Ignoramus30639
><ignoram...@NOSPAM.30639.invalid> scrawled the following:
>
>>On 2010-03-26, Ignoramus30639 <ignoram...@NOSPAM.30639.invalid> wrote:
>>> pictures
>>>
>>> http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Western-Snow-Plow/
>>
>>Oh, and the truck is Chevy Silverado 2500HD, with a gas engine.
>
> 2 or 4WD?
4WD
>
>>How would it survive snow plowing?
>
> It would survive much better if you bought a snow blower. Better yet,
> sell it for enough money to buy both a big blower and a snowmobile.
> Your wife and kid will thank you for it. ;)
Between you and Karl, I think that you guys are right.
> I can see a guy wanting one if he had a road which needed to be graded
> and/or snow-plowed several times a year, but you're an urbanite, Ig.
> Plow envy got ahold of you. I can grok it. <g>
My driveway is only appx. 50 feet long.
Anyhow, I think that I got sidetracked on this snowplow and it is more
than I (or my pickup) should handle.
i
Pete Snell
>
> --
> Challenges are gifts that force us to search for a new center of gravity.
> Don't fight them. Just find a different way to stand.
> -- Oprah Winfrey
Wait a minute! Larry quoting Oprah? Is this bizarro-usenet?
Pete
--
Pete Snell
Department of Physics
Royal Military College
Kingston, Ontario,
Canada
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the
strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better.
The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.
Theodore Roosevelt (1858-1919)
Michael A. Terrell
Pete Snell wrote:
>
> Larry Jaques wrote:
>
> >
> > --
> > Challenges are gifts that force us to search for a new center of gravity.
> > Don't fight them. Just find a different way to stand.
> > -- Oprah Winfrey
>
> Wait a minute! Larry quoting Oprah? Is this bizarro-usenet?
Some guys take 'Casual Fridays' way too far!
--
Lead free solder is Belgium's version of 'Hold my beer and watch this!'
Jim Wilkins
wrote:
> Pete Snell wrote:
>
> > Larry Jaques wrote:
>
> > > --
> > > Challenges are gifts that force us to search for a new center of gravity.
> > > Don't fight them. Just find a different way to stand.
> > > -- Oprah Winfrey
>
> > Wait a minute! Larry quoting Oprah? Is this bizarro-usenet?
>
> Some guys take 'Casual Fridays' way too far!
Some guys are retired. The other day she had a porno queen on, Raquel
Welch is coming Monday.
jsw
pyotr filipivich
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>On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 00:35:36 -0700, the infamous pyotr filipivich
><ph...@mindspring.com> scrawled the following:
>
>>Let the Record show that Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> on or
>>about Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:10:01 -0700 did write/type or cause to
>>appear in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>>>On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:47:06 -0500, Ignoramus30639
>>><ignoram...@NOSPAM.30639.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>pictures
>>>>
>>>>http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Western-Snow-Plow/
>>>
>>>
>>>You did really good Iggy.
>>>
>>>Gunner, who has seen snow up close...5 times in the last 40 yrs
>>
>> So, for you, snow is like a nice fluffy white long hair angora
>>cat. Real nice to look at in someone else's driveway?
>
>That's certainly the way I've always looked at it, Pete.
That is my Dad's attitude. Must be a result of growing up in
Pittsburgh and Worcester. I kind of like snow, but then I've missed
out having to commute in the stuff.
>
>If y'all choose to live with snow, ice, monsoonal rains, hurricanes,
>tornadoes, lightning storms, humidity, hail, wives, pets, and
>children, that's your choice. I like a little less drama in my life.
Hey now, pets can be planned for.
>
>Earthquakes, what I've felt so far, I can handle. ;^)
The one's I've felt, I could handle. The one's I didn't feel,
those disturbed me.
But I'm really bothered by the ones I haven't felt yet.
jeff
On the bright side.... next fall ya will be able to sell it for some
nice coin. You could pick up a nice snowblower or even yet a couple
nice shovels for the kid. 50 feet of driveway is nothing unless
its 5 foot deep in snow :-).
dan
rec.crafts.metalworking mine and will die if we don't mount a rescue
by Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:47:06 -0500:
>pictures
>
>http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Western-Snow-Plow/
Full size pics take too long to load, but from the thumbnails it looks
like the old style mount that I prefer. I could mount my fisher plow
faster than those minute mount new ones.
When you mount the attachment frame to the truck be sure to make it
low enough that the plow angle pivot is vertical. And use a long
enough lift chain so the plow can go down a little to follow the
contours of the road.
Like others said, trans. temp. is the killer. Get a cooler(with a
fan) and/or a trans. temp. gage.
And watch out for manholes and drain grates. Take notes or pictures
of where you plan on plowing.
--
Dan H.
northshore MA.
Michael A. Terrell
I had more than my fill of daytime TV, when working in a TV shop in
my teens. :(
--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
Larry Jaques
<ignora...@NOSPAM.8345.invalid> scrawled the following:
>On 2010-03-26, Larry Jaques <lja...@diversify.invalid> wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:50:07 -0500, the infamous Ignoramus30639
>><ignoram...@NOSPAM.30639.invalid> scrawled the following:
>>
>>>On 2010-03-26, Ignoramus30639 <ignoram...@NOSPAM.30639.invalid> wrote:
>>>> pictures
>>>>
>>>> http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Western-Snow-Plow/
>>>
>>>Oh, and the truck is Chevy Silverado 2500HD, with a gas engine.
>>
>> 2 or 4WD?
>
>4WD
>
>>
>>>How would it survive snow plowing?
>>
>> It would survive much better if you bought a snow blower. Better yet,
>> sell it for enough money to buy both a big blower and a snowmobile.
>> Your wife and kid will thank you for it. ;)
>
>Between you and Karl, I think that you guys are right.
Ayup.
>> I can see a guy wanting one if he had a road which needed to be graded
>> and/or snow-plowed several times a year, but you're an urbanite, Ig.
>> Plow envy got ahold of you. I can grok it. <g>
>
>My driveway is only appx. 50 feet long.
I knew that and grinned when you bought a snow plow. <titter>
>Anyhow, I think that I got sidetracked on this snowplow and it is more
>than I (or my pickup) should handle.
I'm sure you'll find something to do with it. Like triple or quadruple
your investment by the end of tomorrow afternoon.
--
"Not always right, but never uncertain." --Heinlein
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Larry Jaques
<sne...@rmc.ca> scrawled the following:
>Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>>
>> --
>> Challenges are gifts that force us to search for a new center of gravity.
>> Don't fight them. Just find a different way to stand.
>> -- Oprah Winfrey
>
>
>
> Wait a minute! Larry quoting Oprah? Is this bizarro-usenet?
Hey, don't blame me. Blame the Motivational-Quote-of-the-Day site for
sending me something pithy from Opie. I knew it was something to put
up just for Lew, since he called me a bigot. (Well, Lew, did it get
your goat, or are we not mentioning her?)
Steve W.
If he was a bit closer I'd buy it quick. Western makes a GREAT plow and
that plow new was probably close to $3000.00. My FD just picked up a new
Western commercial style for our new plow truck and it was almost 4K
even with a discount.
--
Steve W.
Jim Wilkins
wrote:
> ...
> I had more than my fill of daytime TV, when working in a TV shop in
> my teens. :(
> Michael A. Terrell
Agreed, I turn the TV on a few minutes before the news in case some
new singer is performing. They have an extremely low opinion of the
intelligence and maturity of their audience.
jsw
Michael A. Terrell
Most of TV is MBAs and empty talking heads these days. I watch the
news, and a few old sitcoms. Even watching the news bothers me after my
time in the Army where I produced and directed live daily half hour
newscasts, while on duty as the broadcast engineer. We were allowed
only one mistake per show, and there were no teleprompters. The
'broadcasters' (Military talking heads) prepared their own material and
practiced before every newscast. I even had to slip into the studio to
change camera angles between some shots, then back to the control room.
No sat TV here, just sub-basic cable.
Wes
>Would you say it is worth $220? if it works?
How long is your driveway? I ask that because I don't think you live out in the country
so it is likely short. A snowblower you walk behind would be a lot less hassle. I blow
about 200FT and I never run out of room to put the snow in.
Wes
Jim Wilkins
That's an advantage of a snowblower over a plow. OTOH in my case the
only good place to blow most of it is upwind. My neighbor and I clear
large enough areas to turn around, he uses a 4WD ATV with a plow blade
and I have the bucket loader. Both machines can pile the snow into
this ridge along the border between our yards:
http://picasaweb.google.com/KB1DAL/HomeMadeMachines#5280467615509112306
The ATV is faster, I think mine is more fun.
Notice that the 6 Megapixel image has been reduced to 100 DPI and 640
x 480. Not all of us have broadband.
jsw
pyotr filipivich
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><ignoram...@NOSPAM.30639.invalid> wrote:
>
>>pictures
>>
>>http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Western-Snow-Plow/
>
>
>You did really good Iggy.
>
>Gunner, who has seen snow up close...5 times in the last 40 yrs
Got a good telescope, eh?
LOl
Gunner Asch
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>>On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:47:06 -0500, Ignoramus30639
>><ignoram...@NOSPAM.30639.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>pictures
>>>
>>>http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Western-Snow-Plow/
>>
>>
>>You did really good Iggy.
>>
>>Gunner, who has seen snow up close...5 times in the last 40 yrs
>
> Got a good telescope, eh?
>
Nah,....its actually snowed in my front yard 5 times.
Now I do drive through it a couple times each year as I drive over the
5000' on top of the Grapevine between the Central Valley and LA.
Gunner
>
>LOl
>-
>pyotr filipivich
>We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
>It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!
dan
rec.crafts.metalworking mine and will die if we don't mount a rescue
>That's an advantage of a snowblower over a plow. OTOH in my case the
>only good place to blow most of it is upwind. My neighbor and I clear
>large enough areas to turn around, he uses a 4WD ATV with a plow blade
>and I have the bucket loader. Both machines can pile the snow into
>this ridge along the border between our yards:
>http://picasaweb.google.com/KB1DAL/HomeMadeMachines#5280467615509112306
>The ATV is faster, I think mine is more fun.
>
>Notice that the 6 Megapixel image has been reduced to 100 DPI and 640
>x 480. Not all of us have broadband.
And at 56k dialup, I thank you for that.
Wes
>Ayup. I lost most of my love for snow, after growing up in, then
>leaving Northern Michigan, where the average snow fall is 124" a year.
>
>12 Feet of snow, 6 months out of the year..was a bit much. Now I live
>in the high desert. I see snow on the tops of the mountains all around
>me.
>
>I think we had an 1/8" on the ground 4 yrs ago. Then it melted about an
>hour later.
We barely had snow this year. Only a few miles from your old stomping grounds. I'm not
complaining.
Wes
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"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller