Bibles Wanted !
Cliff
Darrell Stec
> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/03/02/national/main6260070.shtml
It would have worked better if they had excerpts translated properly
demonstrating the pornography. I think the irony is lost on most students
most of whom are too busy memorizing their lessons to bother to think.
--
Later,
Darrell
lab~rat >:-)
<Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> puked:
> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/03/02/national/main6260070.shtml
Ya know, as an atheist, I really wonder what this group is thinking
about. The whole point of being an atheist is distancing yourself
from a group of sheep that believe the same thing, but these assholes
seem to be inserting themselves in the community to interfere with
those sheep.
They would be the first ones bitching if xtian groups were out there
condemning atheists and ridiculing their beliefs, yet there they are
prosthelytizing every bit as much as a fucking Jehovah's Witness
standing on your porch Saturday morning.
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
Lookout
wrote:
>Cliff wrote:
>
>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/03/02/national/main6260070.shtml
>
Sounds like a good idea to me!
Lookout
wrote:
As I've pointed out atheists are as wrong as theists.
lab~rat >:-)
Lookout
wrote:
>On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:16:11 -0600, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
>puked:
>
>>On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:37:39 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:55:06 -0500, Cliff
>>><Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> puked:
>>>
>>>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/03/02/national/main6260070.shtml
>>>
>>>Ya know, as an atheist, I really wonder what this group is thinking
>>>about. The whole point of being an atheist is distancing yourself
>>>from a group of sheep that believe the same thing, but these assholes
>>>seem to be inserting themselves in the community to interfere with
>>>those sheep.
>>>
>>>They would be the first ones bitching if xtian groups were out there
>>>condemning atheists and ridiculing their beliefs, yet there they are
>>>prosthelytizing every bit as much as a fucking Jehovah's Witness
>>>standing on your porch Saturday morning.
>>
>>As I've pointed out atheists are as wrong as theists.
>
>In what regard?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheist
Atheism is commonly defined as the position that there are no deities
You can't prove there is no god anymore than a theist can prove there
is one.
Cliff
But you can probably prove the ones claimed do not exist and
that if any others did it could never be known & would not matter
anyway.
You do not need to claim a cause for NOT having any effect
and if you did you could claim any of billions & billions of "causes",
even ones that flatly contradict each other, and it would not matter.
--
Cliff
Lookout
Nope. Not at all.
Hang Dog
> prosthelytizing every bit as much as a fucking Jehovah's Witness
> standing on your porch Saturday morning.
JWs don't come around on a Saturday morning, they do it on a Sunday
morning to stop the Catholics going to church.
lab~rat >:-)
puked:
And furthermore, you can't prove one is more wrong than the other.
But that being said, stories in the bible can be proven to be false.
Unless you have an astrophysical explanation for how the sun could
stop in the sky, for example...
lab~rat >:-)
<righ...@wobble.nospam.net> puked:
If they can stop Catholics from going to church, Catholics should
learn about guns...
Doug Miller
>And furthermore, you can't prove one is more wrong than the other.
>But that being said, stories in the bible can be proven to be false.
>
>Unless you have an astrophysical explanation for how the sun could
>stop in the sky, for example...
Astrophysical explanation is not required. If you accept the Bible's
description of a deity able to create the universe from nothingness at a
spoken command, it follows logically that you would accept that said deity
is able to stop and restart the rotation of the earth as well, as the latter
task is clearly much simpler than the former. :-)
Lookout
wrote:
Go back and look at what I said. I said they are both just as wrong as
the other.
>But that being said, stories in the bible can be proven to be false.
And some have some historical references that can be proven.
lab~rat >:-)
puked:
I saw what you said. I still say you're wrong. It's a logical
fallacy to claim that's an absolute. If there WERE a god, and that
god was as described by a set religion, then that religion would be
LESS wrong than atheism.
You're clearly agnostic as you believe that neither can ever be proven
or explained, but your agnostic belief is just as capable of being
wrong.
And the statement you should have said was:
"Both (atheism) and (christianity) are CAPABLE of being just as wrong
as the other.
For now.
>
>>But that being said, stories in the bible can be proven to be false.
>
>And some have some historical references that can be proven.
Clearly. I'm referring more to the magical miracle part that makes
the bible a religious book.
>
>>Unless you have an astrophysical explanation for how the sun could
>>stop in the sky, for example...
--
Cliff
You have to think a bit.
I did not intend to say that anybody can.
OTOH Those that cannot are just parrots anyway & have no
idea what the noises mean.
Perhaps the music & ranting impressed them at a young age.
Chamber music is okay .... as music.
>
>> You do not need to claim a cause for NOT having any effect
>>and if you did you could claim any of billions & billions of "causes",
>>even ones that flatly contradict each other, and it would not matter.
--
Cliff
Rightardia
You can now trade in a Bible for porn. How cool is that?
Gray Ghost
news:2ijvo5t4oondqpahj...@4ax.com:
Yes but given a choice between Marx and Christ it really isn't that hard to
choose.
--
God, guns and guts made America great.
And Janet Napolitano nervous.
Which should tell you all you need to know about Democrats. How can one
restore America to greatness if greatness makes you uncomfortable?
Lookout
wrote:
"IF" doesn't cut it. Try again using absolutes.
>You're clearly agnostic as you believe that neither can ever be proven
>or explained, but your agnostic belief is just as capable of being
>wrong.
And wrong again.
>
>And the statement you should have said was:
>
>"Both (atheism) and (christianity) are CAPABLE of being just as wrong
>as the other.
And wrong again.
>
>For now.
>
>
>>
>>>But that being said, stories in the bible can be proven to be false.
>>
>>And some have some historical references that can be proven.
>
>Clearly. I'm referring more to the magical miracle part that makes
>the bible a religious book.
Nah..makes it a fairy tale.
Lookout
One is real and the other is a myth.
lab~rat >:-)
puked:
I'm not sure what we are arguing about here. You think that atheism
and christianity are equally wrong in what way?
Lookout
wrote:
They both claim to have the answer. Neither can prove it.
Grumpy
"Hang Dog" <righ...@wobble.nospam.net> wrote in message
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Just what in hell has this got to do with metalworking?
Harold & Susan Vordos
"Doug Miller" <spam...@milmac.com> wrote in message
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That's not a great endorsement for the concept of a creator. Seems to me
using one absurd example as proof of another absurd example is a bit lame.,
just as man's concept of a creator is lame. If there is such an entity,
it/she/he has been exploited well by humans.
I don't believe it. There is no evidence that the sun has ever "stopped in
the sky", nor is that a conceivable notion. The closest you might come to
such nonsense is the fact that the earth's gravitational field changes
position with some long term regularity. That's hardly the same thing.
Harold
Curly Surmudgeon
Well, crust slippage might cause the sun to move in strange ways if that
theory has any validity. Ergot from rye seed is a better explanation.
Ancient LSD is a reasonable explanation for some of those fables.
Talking snakes and bushes with flames that don't burn, levitation and all
manner of hallucinations.
Insanity is another and much simpler.
--
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Cliff
Karl Marx was a political economist.
Very famous.
--
Cliff
Doug Miller
>I don't believe it. There is no evidence that the sun has ever "stopped in
>the sky", nor is that a conceivable notion. The closest you might come to
>such nonsense is the fact that the earth's gravitational field changes
>position with some long term regularity.
Ummm.... no, it doesn't. That would be the earth's *magnetic* field. (Note
peripheral metalworking context)
> That's hardly the same thing.
Indeed.
Occam's Razor
Didn't he live in a shack in Montana and write a Manifesto?
--
Lookout
Nah..that was Chico
The Almighty
> Any God who is limited by the rules of the universe or compelled to
> explain His actions to humans is no God at all.
I forgive you. This time.
--God
ps: "It's," not "His." Do not do that again...
Paul Hovnanian P.E.
4:00 AM carrying a Gideon's bible.
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Shannon Burke
> Gideon's bible
I'm Catholic and I would have been upset about this.
Gray Ghost
news:42s1p55ndjrjo2ack...@4ax.com:
> On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:45:41 -0600, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:34:41 -0600, grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com
>>(Gray Ghost) wrote:
>>
>>>"lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote in
>>>news:2ijvo5t4oondqpahj...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 08:44:33 -0600, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
>>>> puked:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 08:13:08 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:01:50 -0600, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>puked:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:12:41 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)"
>>>>>>><ch...@cheeze.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:16:11 -0600, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>puked:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:37:39 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)"
>>>>>>>>><ch...@cheeze.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:55:06 -0500, Cliff
>>>>>>>>>><Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> puked:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/03/02/national/main6260070.
>>>>>>>>>>> sht ml
He was a leech who lived off of others largess and then whined about his
inadequacies and inability to do an honest day's labor. The fact that he wrote
it down to justify it and many idiots have been fooled by his idiot tirade
most likely earned him a special place in Hell.
Meanwhile Christ saved the souls of miilions. Yeah tough choice.
BTW can you actually "prove" Karl Marx existed, either?
Lookout
<Pa...@Hovnanian.com> wrote:
>There is nothing as disconcerting as having your daughter come home at
>4:00 AM carrying a Gideon's bible.
HAHAHA No shit!
It was just 10 years ago I had to threaten the local school system
with a law suit because they were handing out bibles. Can you believe
they were still trying to get away with that shit in the South?
Lookout
(Gray Ghost) wrote:
Nope. No proof of anyone being saved from anything.
Dumbass.
Harold & Susan Vordos
Oooops, a senior moment. Glad you understood what I meant.
H
Cliff
Yep.
--
Cliff
Ala
"Lookout" <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:sjt3p5d7d6vaed9pd...@4ax.com...
It seems he always fed people with loaves, fishes and wine.
So they got saved from something
There's fruit and then muffins and bagels and cakes
jk
Well, given that the earth is not in a fixed position (unless you are
a medieval/ren pope) he is actually correct, our gravitational field
changes position constantly, if it didn't we would all fly off into
space when the earth moved along without it.
jk
Lookout
wrote:
IF and only if you believe the fairy tale.
torquemada
Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Nah..that was Chico
> Oh LOOKIE who's back!
>
> Let's review some of your ueslessnet boasts, ya wannabesex-freak:
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:52:43 -0600
> Message-ID: <3p8bn5p27s4d8f336...@4ax.com>
>
> "I can show you pics
> of my then girlfriend and now wife naked in the barracks."
>
> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:22:33 -0600
> Message-ID: <p1d4n5pedrchnffd7...@4ax.com>
>
> "And as I said I had several 3somes with two girls and me so hey..I was all for it."
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> MBWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!!
>
> Come on kiddo, post the pics!!!!
>
> LOLOLOLOLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cliff
>On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:12:41 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:16:11 -0600, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
>>puked:
>>
>>>On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:37:39 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:55:06 -0500, Cliff
>>>><Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> puked:
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/03/02/national/main6260070.shtml
>>>>
>>>>Ya know, as an atheist, I really wonder what this group is thinking
>>>>about. The whole point of being an atheist is distancing yourself
>>>>from a group of sheep that believe the same thing, but these assholes
>>>>seem to be inserting themselves in the community to interfere with
>>>>those sheep.
>>>>
>>>>They would be the first ones bitching if xtian groups were out there
>>>>condemning atheists and ridiculing their beliefs, yet there they are
>>>>prosthelytizing every bit as much as a fucking Jehovah's Witness
>>>>standing on your porch Saturday morning.
>>>
>>>As I've pointed out atheists are as wrong as theists.
>>
>>In what regard?
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheist
>
>Atheism is commonly defined as the position that there are no deities
That's a bit of a logical stretch when the fundies cannot even define their
claimed gods.
Same basic superstition & two suckers: One claims he supposed to murder
people & the other says not.
Which gods are those?
>You can't prove there is no god anymore than a theist can prove there
>is one.
When they cannot even define such one can easily say that whatever
they are muttering & chanting about does not exist.
--
Cliff
Cliff
>On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:37:39 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:55:06 -0500, Cliff
>><Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> puked:
>>
>>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/03/02/national/main6260070.shtml
>>
>>Ya know, as an atheist, I really wonder what this group is thinking
>>about. The whole point of being an atheist is distancing yourself
>>from a group of sheep that believe the same thing, but these assholes
>>seem to be inserting themselves in the community to interfere with
>>those sheep.
>>
>>They would be the first ones bitching if xtian groups were out there
>>condemning atheists and ridiculing their beliefs, yet there they are
>>prosthelytizing every bit as much as a fucking Jehovah's Witness
>>standing on your porch Saturday morning.
>
>As I've pointed out atheists are as wrong as theists.
How can one be wrong to point out that you need no cause
to not have an effect?
No cause is needed when there is no effect.
--
Cliff
Cliff
>On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:55:06 -0500, Cliff
><Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> puked:
>
>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/03/02/national/main6260070.shtml
>
>Ya know, as an atheist, I really wonder what this group is thinking
>about. The whole point of being an atheist is distancing yourself
>from a group of sheep that believe the same thing, but these assholes
>seem to be inserting themselves in the community to interfere with
>those sheep.
??
>They would be the first ones bitching if xtian groups were out there
>condemning atheists and ridiculing their beliefs,
Like they always do, right?
>yet there they are
>prosthelytizing every bit as much as a fucking Jehovah's Witness
>standing on your porch Saturday morning.
Send a few to gummer.
--
Cliff
Cliff
Ghost) wrote:
Karl Marx earned a living & is famed worldwide.
Has a nice gravemarker too.
Let's see gummer's.
>Meanwhile Christ saved the souls of miilions. Yeah tough choice.
"Kill a commie for Christ."
>BTW can you actually "prove" Karl Marx existed, either?
--
Cliff
Cliff
You have no foorp.
>So they got saved from something
Boredom about the campfire.
>There's fruit and then muffins and bagels and cakes
--
Cliff
lab~rat >:-)
puked:
>On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:37:28 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:45:12 -0600, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
>>puked:
>>
>>>On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:18:00 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net>
>>>"IF" doesn't cut it. Try again using absolutes.
>>>
>>>>You're clearly agnostic as you believe that neither can ever be proven
>>>>or explained, but your agnostic belief is just as capable of being
>>>>wrong.
>>>
>>>And wrong again.
>>>>
>>>>And the statement you should have said was:
>>>>
>>>>"Both (atheism) and (christianity) are CAPABLE of being just as wrong
>>>>as the other.
>>>
>>>And wrong again.
>>>>
>>>>For now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>But that being said, stories in the bible can be proven to be false.
>>>>>
>>>>>And some have some historical references that can be proven.
>>>>
>>>>Clearly. I'm referring more to the magical miracle part that makes
>>>>the bible a religious book.
>>>
>>>Nah..makes it a fairy tale.
>>
>>I'm not sure what we are arguing about here. You think that atheism
>>and christianity are equally wrong in what way?
>
>They both claim to have the answer. Neither can prove it.
That isn't true. Atheism isn't believing in god. It has nothing to
do with providing answers. I don't pretend to have the answers
because to be perfectly honest, I don't know what the questions are...
lab~rat >:-)
<Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> puked:
>>They would be the first ones bitching if xtian groups were out there
>>condemning atheists and ridiculing their beliefs,
>
> Like they always do, right?
"They"? That's presuming that atheists are a homogenized group that
follow a common belief. Most atheist don't belong to an organized
group and think all of the religious BS is for other people and aren't
particularly fazed by it.
It seems like the people that get upset about the 10 commandments, or
xmas in the mall or whatever actually belong to some type of religion
that takes exception to it.
Lookout
Put down the joint NOW.
torquemada
Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Put down the joint NOW.
Oh LOOKIE who's back!
Lookout
wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism
Atheism is commonly defined as the position that there are no deities
That can't be proved any more than the existence of deities.
Both are equally as wrong.
Lookout
wrote:
>On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:05:48 -0500, Cliff
Agreed on your last point. The christmas celebrations and 10
commandments don't bother me in the least EXCEPT in schools or on
public property.
torquemada
Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Both are equally as wrong.
Oh LOOKIE who's back!
torquemada
lab~rat >:-)
puked:
You don't know that to be true. Again, to be logically consistent,
this is the phrase:
>>>>>"Both (atheism) and (christianity) are CAPABLE of being just as wrong
>>>>>as the other.
lab~rat >:-)
puked:
What do you find objectionable about xmas celebrations? I'm referring
to the reindeer and tree and elves type, not the savior stuff. As for
the ten commandments, they don't bother me either. I think of them as
something for other people to abide by. I pretty much follow them
except for the coveting and false idol thing.
Lookout
wrote:
>On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:43:54 -0600, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
>puked:
>
>>On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 09:42:27 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:05:48 -0500, Cliff
>>><Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> puked:
>>>
>>>>>They would be the first ones bitching if xtian groups were out there
>>>>>condemning atheists and ridiculing their beliefs,
>>>>
>>>> Like they always do, right?
>>>
>>>"They"? That's presuming that atheists are a homogenized group that
>>>follow a common belief. Most atheist don't belong to an organized
>>>group and think all of the religious BS is for other people and aren't
>>>particularly fazed by it.
>>>
>>>It seems like the people that get upset about the 10 commandments, or
>>>xmas in the mall or whatever actually belong to some type of religion
>>>that takes exception to it.
>>
>>
>>Agreed on your last point. The christmas celebrations and 10
>>commandments don't bother me in the least EXCEPT in schools or on
>>public property.
>
>What do you find objectionable about xmas celebrations? I'm referring
>to the reindeer and tree and elves type, not the savior stuff.
I was talking about the religious paraphernalia.
>As for
>the ten commandments, they don't bother me either. I think of them as
>something for other people to abide by. I pretty much follow them
>except for the coveting and false idol thing.
And we leave the lying to the christians ; )
Lookout
wrote:
No. Both are just as wrong as neither can be proved with 100%
certainty.
torquemada
Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> And we leave the lying to the christians ; )
Oh LOOKIE who's back!
Let's review some of your ueslessnet boasts, ya wannabe sex-freak:
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:52:43 -0600
> Message-ID: <3p8bn5p27s4d8f336...@4ax.com>
>
> "I can show you pics
> of my then girlfriend and now wife naked in the barracks."
>
> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:22:33 -0600
> Message-ID: <p1d4n5pedrchnffd7...@4ax.com>
>
> "And as I said I had several 3somes with two girls and me so hey..I was all for it."
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MBWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!!
Come on kiddo, post the pics!!!!
LOLOLOLOLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
--
Steve B
times?
"torquemada" <p...@du.lum> wrote in message
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Ala
"Cliff" <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
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Foorp! that's the stuff that mountain climbers put in their back packs with
all the dehydrated fruit and other carbohydrates.
Banana chips par example and crystallized pineapple.
Ick.
>>So they got saved from something
>
> Boredom about the campfire.
>
Sounds good and the timing seems real good too
Ala
Interesting. as far as such accomplishments
I am ok with just a futon on a temporary basis. That's not a problem.
This might work. I ought to get my paperwork very soon and then I will be
able to tell what they allow and what I have to cover myself.
Gray Ghost
news:9sf8p5dljf1sm4ip7...@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0. sht ml
What ashcok you're an admirer of Marx. And no he didn't make a living, Engles
supported him. His fame comes from having spawned the most soulless and
destructive philosophy of the 20th Century that is probably the singlw biggest
killer of the century.
And his gravesite is probably nice 'cuz of all the people that piss on it.
>
>>Meanwhile Christ saved the souls of miilions. Yeah tough choice.
>
> "Kill a commie for Christ."
When it comes to killing Commies, any reason is a good reason. the only good
commie is a dead commie, preferably mutilated or burned beyond recognition.
>
>>BTW can you actually "prove" Karl Marx existed, either?
--
God, guns and guts made America great.
And Janet Napolitano nervous.
Which should tell you all you need to know about Democrats. How can one
restore America to greatness if greatness makes you uncomfortable?
Gunner Asch
Hear hear!!
Gunner, who made a number of really really good Commies in his day.
Gray Ghost
news:j1hbp5dni8sqo02j4...@4ax.com:
Well thank you for that. One of the great disapointments of my life is that
due to poor eyesight I didn't get to do so professionally.
However in the coming Great Cull I expect I'll get my limit and then some. 8)
lab~rat >:-)
puked:
For something to be wrong, it has to be incorrect, not unprovable.
lab~rat >:-)
puked:
I really view that shit as the same as elves and reindeer, but less
fun. I understand why people don't want to be subjected to other
people's religion because religious people don't want to hear about
how I feel there's no god.
People say that you shouldn't discuss religion and politics, and I
know why, but I find myself completely at home ragging on someone's
politics while I am reluctant to do the same with their religion.
Funny, that.
>
>>As for
>>the ten commandments, they don't bother me either. I think of them as
>>something for other people to abide by. I pretty much follow them
>>except for the coveting and false idol thing.
>
>And we leave the lying to the christians ; )
--
Cliff
LOL
--
Cliff
Cliff
>On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:05:48 -0500, Cliff
><Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> puked:
>
>>>They would be the first ones bitching if xtian groups were out there
>>>condemning atheists and ridiculing their beliefs,
>>
>> Like they always do, right?
>
>"They"?
The fundies.
>That's presuming that atheists are a homogenized group that
>follow a common belief. Most atheist don't belong to an organized
>group and think all of the religious BS is for other people and aren't
>particularly fazed by it.
>
>It seems like the people that get upset about the 10 commandments, or
>xmas in the mall or whatever actually belong to some type of religion
>that takes exception to it.
All of which is about forcing one religion on others.
It's a sales pitch.
Too bad the tooth fairy was so cheap.
--
Cliff
Cliff
> As for
>the ten commandments, they don't bother me either. I think of them as
>something for other people to abide by.
Only others? Which othesr? How to enforce the creed ..... ? Guns?
hangings? Hot tar?
One could use ethics instead.
--
Cliff
Cliff
>I really view that shit as the same as elves and reindeer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reindeer
"The reindeer (Rangifer tarandus), also known as the caribou when wild in
North America, is an Arctic and Subarctic-dwelling deer, widespread and numerous
across the Arctic and Subarctic."
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_J4YNPAw0n4Q/SMmxJPXBO7I/AAAAAAAAAPs/WU51tAnmyNQ/s400/caribou+barbie.jpg
http://www.bartcop.com/caribou-barbie.jpg
http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/A/d/2/sarah-palin-caribou-barbie.jpg
Caribou Barbie : http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=caribou+barbie
[
AKA Sarah Palin, redneck hicktown mayor who became Alaska governor and now is a
wannabe Vice Prez selection of John McCain. She criticizes Barack Obama for not
being an in-bred, incestuous, goat fucking, moonshine-guzzling,
trailerpark-dwelling,NASCAR-mongering, Confederate flag waving redneck hick, and
for starting out as a community organizer on the mean streets of Southside
Chicago.
As a Christian fundamentalist, who considers herself "morally superior" to
liberals and who demonizes teen moms and pre-marital sex, she opposes sex
education in public classrooms and has cut funding to a shelter for homeless
pregnant teenage moms, even though her own teenage daughter Bristol is knocked
up (and about to enter a shotgun wedding with the embryo's father), thereby
earning Palin the title of Hypocrite of the Year, Every Year.
"Did you hear Caribou Barbie talking trash about Obama and the liberals' lack of
family values?"
"Yeah, what a hypocrite!"
]
[
Nickname for Sarah Palin, current governor of Alaska. Term is used as a
pejorative that puts good looks and her Alaskan background over any experience
at the national level.
Single males will be disappointed that Caribou Barbie is not in season.
]
[
Sarah Palin, Mooselini, Republican VP Candidate
Caribou Barbie is the lipstick, not the pig.
]
....
[
A nasty looking ho.
She came straight outta bed lookin' all Caribou Barbie and shit.
]
Cliff
>>No. Both are just as wrong as neither can be proved with 100%
>>certainty.
>
>For something to be wrong, it has to be incorrect, not unprovable.
G�del's incompleteness theorems
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del's_incompleteness_theorems
See also http://www.kfs.org/~jonathan/witt/tlph.html
[
http://www.kfs.org/~jonathan/witt/ten.html
1 The world is everything that is the case. *
1.1 The world is the totality of facts, not of things.
1.11 The world is determined by the facts, and by these begin all
the facts.
]
Etc.
Discuss <g>.
--
Cliff
lab~rat >:-)
<Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> puked:
>On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:07:55 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote:
>
>>>No. Both are just as wrong as neither can be proved with 100%
>>>certainty.
>>
>>For something to be wrong, it has to be incorrect, not unprovable.
>
> GÔøΩdel's incompleteness theorems
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del's_incompleteness_theorems
>
> See also http://www.kfs.org/~jonathan/witt/tlph.html
>[
> http://www.kfs.org/~jonathan/witt/ten.html
>
> 1 The world is everything that is the case. *
> 1.1 The world is the totality of facts, not of things.
> 1.11 The world is determined by the facts, and by these begin all
>the facts.
>]
> Etc.
>
> Discuss <g>.
What axiom exists for religion?
lab~rat >:-)
<Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> puked:
>On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:09:04 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote:
In the absence of religion, morals and ethics are the way I raise my
children. I give them real life presuppositions that could happen to
them if they choose to act out in different ways. I think they
connect with it a lot more than if they were afraid of god seeing them
doing it.
As far as enforcement for others is concerned, what isn't covered by
the law should be covered by their own spiritual and ethical
barometer...
lab~rat >:-)
<Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> puked:
>On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 09:42:27 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:05:48 -0500, Cliff
>><Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> puked:
>>
>>>>They would be the first ones bitching if xtian groups were out there
>>>>condemning atheists and ridiculing their beliefs,
>>>
>>> Like they always do, right?
>>
>>"They"?
>
> The fundies.
The fundies, the jews, the "professional atheists", there's no limit
to the asshole groups that bitch and whine.
>
>>That's presuming that atheists are a homogenized group that
>>follow a common belief. Most atheist don't belong to an organized
>>group and think all of the religious BS is for other people and aren't
>>particularly fazed by it.
>>
>>It seems like the people that get upset about the 10 commandments, or
>>xmas in the mall or whatever actually belong to some type of religion
>>that takes exception to it.
>
> All of which is about forcing one religion on others.
> It's a sales pitch.
>
> Too bad the tooth fairy was so cheap.
Do you think the 10 commandments actually are an attempt to do that?
I don't. Should I be bothered by that for some reason?
Lookout
wrote:
You two idiots are 50 years to late.
Lookout
(Gray Ghost) wrote:
>Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in
>news:j1hbp5dni8sqo02j4...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:48:43 -0600, grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com
>> (Gray Ghost) wrote:
>>
>>>What ashcok you're an admirer of Marx. And no he didn't make a living,
>>>Engles supported him. His fame comes from having spawned the most
>>>soulless and destructive philosophy of the 20th Century that is probably
>>>the singlw biggest killer of the century.
>>>
>>>And his gravesite is probably nice 'cuz of all the people that piss on
>>>it.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Meanwhile Christ saved the souls of miilions. Yeah tough choice.
>>>>
>>>> "Kill a commie for Christ."
>>>
>>>When it comes to killing Commies, any reason is a good reason. the only
>>>good commie is a dead commie, preferably mutilated or burned beyond
>>>recognition.
>>
>>
>> Hear hear!!
>>
>> Gunner, who made a number of really really good Commies in his day.
>>
>>
>>
>
>Well thank you for that. One of the great disapointments of my life is that
>due to poor eyesight I didn't get to do so professionally.
>
>However in the coming Great Cull I expect I'll get my limit and then some. 8)
You wont' get a damn thing, chicken shit. You're sit there in your
tenement on wheels and threaten anyone and everyone and you won't do
shit.
Lookout
Lookout
I have. Still waiting for proof of a god.
Lookout
wrote:
No. I don't want any of my tax dollars spent on religious
paraphernalia. Period.
>
>People say that you shouldn't discuss religion and politics, and I
>know why, but I find myself completely at home ragging on someone's
>politics while I am reluctant to do the same with their religion.
>Funny, that.
I have no problem with it.
Lookout
wrote:
>On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:36:50 -0500, Cliff
><Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> puked:
>
>>On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 09:42:27 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:05:48 -0500, Cliff
>>><Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> puked:
>>>
>>>>>They would be the first ones bitching if xtian groups were out there
>>>>>condemning atheists and ridiculing their beliefs,
>>>>
>>>> Like they always do, right?
>>>
>>>"They"?
>>
>> The fundies.
>
>The fundies, the jews, the "professional atheists", there's no limit
>to the asshole groups that bitch and whine.
Agreed. And all are just as wrong as the other
>
>>
>>>That's presuming that atheists are a homogenized group that
>>>follow a common belief. Most atheist don't belong to an organized
>>>group and think all of the religious BS is for other people and aren't
>>>particularly fazed by it.
>>>
>>>It seems like the people that get upset about the 10 commandments, or
>>>xmas in the mall or whatever actually belong to some type of religion
>>>that takes exception to it.
>>
>> All of which is about forcing one religion on others.
>> It's a sales pitch.
>>
>> Too bad the tooth fairy was so cheap.
>
>Do you think the 10 commandments actually are an attempt to do that?
>I don't. Should I be bothered by that for some reason?
The problem is there are actually between 5 and 12 more commandments
that the King James version doesn't like so they just left them out.
lab~rat >:-)
lab~rat >:-)
puked:
So do you think there should be more or less included?
torquemada
Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> No. Both are just as wrong
Oh LOOKIE who's back!
Let's review some of your ueslessnet boasts, ya wannabe sex-freak:
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:52:43 -0600
> Message-ID: <3p8bn5p27s4d8f336...@4ax.com>
>
> "I can show you pics
> of my then girlfriend and now wife naked in the barracks."
>
> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:22:33 -0600
> Message-ID: <p1d4n5pedrchnffd7...@4ax.com>
>
> "And as I said I had several 3somes with two girls and me so hey..I was all for it."
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MBWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!!
Come on kiddo, post the pics!!!!
LOLOLOLOLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
torquemada
Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> You two idiots are 50 years to late.
Oh LOOKIE who's back!
torquemada
Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> You wont' get a damn thing, chicken shit.
Oh LOOKIE who's back!
torquemada
torquemada
Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I have. Still waiting for proof of a god.
Oh LOOKIE who's back!
torquemada
Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I have no problem with it.
Oh LOOKIE who's back!
torquemada
Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Agreed. And all are just as wrong as the other
lab~rat >:-)
Ok, we got the message. Now you can stop with the retarded posts.
Lookout
lab~rat >:-)
torquemada
Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I don't care.
Oh LOOKIE who's back!
Let's review some of your ueslessnet boasts, ya wannabe sex-freak:
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:52:43 -0600
> Message-ID: <3p8bn5p27s4d8f336...@4ax.com>
>
> "I can show you pics
> of my then girlfriend and now wife naked in the barracks."
>
> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:22:33 -0600
> Message-ID: <p1d4n5pedrchnffd7...@4ax.com>
>
> "And as I said I had several 3somes with two girls and me so hey..I was all for it."
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MBWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!!
Come on kiddo, post the pics!!!!
LOLOLOLOLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ala
"Gray Ghost" <grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9D35DDED3DF9We...@216.196.97.142...
> Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in
> news:9sf8p5dljf1sm4ip7...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 21:58:13 -0600, grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com
>> (Gray Ghost) wrote:
>>
>>>Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in
>>>news:42s1p55ndjrjo2ack...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:45:41 -0600, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:34:41 -0600, grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com
>>>>>(Gray Ghost) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote in
>>>>>>news:2ijvo5t4oondqpahj...@4ax.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 08:44:33 -0600, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>> puked:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 08:13:08 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)"
>>>>>>>><ch...@cheeze.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:01:50 -0600, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>>puked:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:12:41 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)"
>>>>>>>>>><ch...@cheeze.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:16:11 -0600, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>puked:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:37:39 -0500, "lab~rat >:-)"
>>>>>>>>>>>><ch...@cheeze.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:55:06 -0500, Cliff
>>>>>>>>>>>>><Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> puked:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/03/02/national/main626007
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0. sht ml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ya know, as an atheist, I really wonder what this group is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>thinking about. The whole point of being an atheist is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>distancing yourself from a group of sheep that believe the same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>thing, but these assholes seem to be inserting themselves in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the community to interfere with those sheep.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>there they are prosthelytizing every bit as much as a fucking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jehovah's Witness standing on your porch Saturday morning.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>As I've pointed out atheists are as wrong as theists.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>In what regard?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheist
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Atheism is commonly defined as the position that there are no
>>>>>>>>>>deities
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>You can't prove there is no god anymore than a theist can prove
>>>>>>>>>>there is one.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>And furthermore, you can't prove one is more wrong than the other.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>as the other.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I saw what you said. I still say you're wrong. It's a logical
>>>>>>> fallacy to claim that's an absolute. If there WERE a god, and that
>>>>>>> god was as described by a set religion, then that religion would be
>>>>>>> LESS wrong than atheism.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> proven or explained, but your agnostic belief is just as capable of
>>>>>>> being wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrong as the other.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>But that being said, stories in the bible can be proven to be
>>>>>>>>>false.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>And some have some historical references that can be proven.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Clearly. I'm referring more to the magical miracle part that makes
>>>>>>> the bible a religious book.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>stop in the sky, for example...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> lab~rat >:-)
>>>>>>> Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>hard to choose.
>>>>>
>>>>>One is real and the other is a myth.
>>>>
>>>> Karl Marx was a political economist.
>>>> Very famous.
>>>
>>>He was a leech who lived off of others largess and then whined about his
>>>inadequacies and inability to do an honest day's labor. The fact that he
>>>wrote it down to justify it and many idiots have been fooled by his idiot
>>>tirade most likely earned him a special place in Hell.
>>
>> Karl Marx earned a living & is famed worldwide.
>> Has a nice gravemarker too.
>> Let's see gummer's.
>
> What ashcok you're an admirer of Marx. And no he didn't make a living,
> Engles
> supported him. His fame comes from having spawned the most soulless and
> destructive philosophy of the 20th Century that is probably the singlw
> biggest
> killer of the century.
>
> And his gravesite is probably nice 'cuz of all the people that piss on it.
>
>>
>>>Meanwhile Christ saved the souls of miilions. Yeah tough choice.
>>
>> "Kill a commie for Christ."
>
> When it comes to killing Commies, any reason is a good reason. the only
> good
> commie is a dead commie, preferably mutilated or burned beyond
> recognition.
>
>>