Hobart Gasoline Welder
Gunner Asch
http://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/HobartGasolineWelder#
I brought it home last night. Previous owner claimed it ran the last
time they welded with it..about 12 yrs ago. Look at the wheels....blink
blink..Ive never seen a wheel with no hole in the middle before. I drug
it from Bakersfield..about 45 miles at 55-60 mph and the bearings didnt
get warm..and I know it had sat parked for at least 8 yrs since they
pulled it down from the ranch.
Owner claimed it had come off a Liberty Ship vintage WW2...shrug
Anyone have any ideas?
Gunner
Whenever a Liberal utters the term "Common Sense approach"....grab your
wallet, your ass, and your guns because the sombitch is about to do
something damned nasty to all three of them.
Jim Stewart
> Anyone know anything about this beasty?
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/HobartGasolineWelder#
>
> I brought it home last night. Previous owner claimed it ran the last
> time they welded with it..about 12 yrs ago. Look at the wheels....blink
> blink..Ive never seen a wheel with no hole in the middle before. I drug
> it from Bakersfield..about 45 miles at 55-60 mph and the bearings didnt
> get warm..and I know it had sat parked for at least 8 yrs since they
> pulled it down from the ranch.
>
> Owner claimed it had come off a Liberty Ship vintage WW2...shrug
>
> Anyone have any ideas?
I have an idea that a beer would be real good right now...
And that I'd rather sip a beer and contemplate you working
on that thing than me...
ElusiveStranger
> Anyone know anything about this beasty?
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/HobartGasolineWelder#
>
> I brought it home last night. Previous owner claimed it ran the last
> time they welded with it..about 12 yrs ago. Look at the wheels....blink
> blink..Ive never seen a wheel with no hole in the middle before. I drug
> it from Bakersfield..about 45 miles at 55-60 mph and the bearings didnt
> get warm..and I know it had sat parked for at least 8 yrs since they
> pulled it down from the ranch.
>
> Owner claimed it had come off a Liberty Ship vintage WW2...shrug
>
> Anyone have any ideas?
Nope, sorry Gunner.
But could you do me a real biggie and run a couppla tests for the post down
below please?
As I said I've been lurking and occasionally posting on here.
I know all about your wheel incident & love your posts.
Hell, I'm learning from reading on here
(posted from sejw)
Ignoramus28336
Does it crank?
i
Jerry Wass
Looks like a good ole 226 Continental---taxicabs--kaiser-frazier--If the
block is OK you're in pretty good shape---but Continental made a lot of
industrial engines--there can be differences in the front cover mounting
holes in block, and possibly the rear mounting too..
Bob Noble
Watch out for the fan blades when it is running as there is no shroud when
the sides are up.
I got my fingers in there and bloodied good when I was there.
And to top that off, my uncle had one and did the same thing a few years
ago.
--
Bob Noble
http://www.sonic.net/bnoble
"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Gunner Asch
wrote:
<G>
Got a spare Diet Mt. Dew and Ill join you. Maybe we can con some young
guy into firing it up....?
<G>
Gunner Asch
What sort of test?
Gunner Asch
No idea. Its missing the battery.
Chuckle..the welding leads I suspect are as hard as a rock. Here in the
high desert...when its 120F..and stuff enclosed in a metal box and stand
in the sun for a number of years...getting up to 150=160F....
Standing just right..the stinger shows crystalization of the plastic.
Shrug..Ive got lots and lots of stingers if that one starts to
disintergrate.
Ill have to check everything out, fill the empty radiator, add some
fuel, etc etc and try it out. I did notice that there is No air
cleaner..though the air stack goes way way up into the upper dome of the
cabinet. After seeing that..Id be quite suprised if it has "good"
compression. Though to be fair...up that high..it may not have sucked
up any "big" stuff.
Ill take some photos of the other side..where the water jacket cracked
many years ago and they patched it. It was on a ranch up in the
Sierras..and it may have frozen. I was told once..but after the
stroke..some tidbits went away. No biggie.
I think Ill run the engine down to the car wash and blow out the birds
nests, tumbleweeds and whatnot that cover the motor itself.
Gunner Asch
>Had lots of similar types in Nam when I was there.
>Watch out for the fan blades when it is running as there is no shroud when
>the sides are up.
>I got my fingers in there and bloodied good when I was there.
>And to top that off, my uncle had one and did the same thing a few years
>ago.
Which fan blades? Generator or engine? Generator blades are open on
the bottom of the generator housing..the engine fan is tucked in behind
the radiator nicely.
Gunner Asch
wrote:
The water jacket was cracked as I recall..I need to open the "drivers"
side but Ive got the temporary taillight wiring attached to it so need
to remove it first. They patched the water jacket many years ago and
ran it for many years after that. Ill take pictures tommorow and
investigate it better. Might even try to jump start it..but gas is dear
at the moment and it Can wait for a bit.
Bob Noble
when the sides are open. The sides are unusually raised to run it and when
those blades are spinning, they can't be seen and it's real easy to get your
fingers in there if you poke at something and don't see the fan.
Trust me on this. I just thought I was stupid when it happened to me, but
when my uncle did it too and got hurt way worse than me, I recognized the
safety problem.
--
Bob Noble
http://www.sonic.net/bnoble
"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Gunner Asch
>Look at the engine fan blades in the picture. There is no shield around them
>when the sides are open. The sides are unusually raised to run it and when
>those blades are spinning, they can't be seen and it's real easy to get your
>fingers in there if you poke at something and don't see the fan.
>Trust me on this. I just thought I was stupid when it happened to me, but
>when my uncle did it too and got hurt way worse than me, I recognized the
>safety problem.
Thanks! Ill pay particular attention when I try starting it. Rotating
knife blades turning at 1500 rpm make me nervous when it involves my
fingers.
Larry Jaques
<gunne...@gmail.com> scrawled the following:
>On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 02:37:19 +0000, ElusiveStranger
><theelusivest...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:35:52 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone know anything about this beasty?
>>>
>>> http://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/HobartGasolineWelder#
>>>
>>> I brought it home last night. Previous owner claimed it ran the last
>>> time they welded with it..about 12 yrs ago. Look at the wheels....blink
>>> blink..Ive never seen a wheel with no hole in the middle before. I drug
>>> it from Bakersfield..about 45 miles at 55-60 mph and the bearings didnt
>>> get warm..and I know it had sat parked for at least 8 yrs since they
>>> pulled it down from the ranch.
>>>
>>> Owner claimed it had come off a Liberty Ship vintage WW2...shrug
>>>
>>> Anyone have any ideas?
>>
>>Nope, sorry Gunner.
>>
>>But could you do me a real biggie and run a couppla tests for the post down
>>below please?
>>
>>As I said I've been lurking and occasionally posting on here.
>>
>>I know all about your wheel incident & love your posts.
>>
>>Hell, I'm learning from reading on here
>>
>>(posted from sejw)
>
>What sort of test?
Welding tests, like "the wheel incident"? <gd&r>
--
The blind are not good trailblazers.
-- federal judge Frank Easterbrook
Joseph Gwinn
Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 20:55:52 -0800, "Bob Noble" <bno...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
> >Had lots of similar types in Nam when I was there.
> >Watch out for the fan blades when it is running as there is no shroud when
> >the sides are up.
> >I got my fingers in there and bloodied good when I was there.
> >And to top that off, my uncle had one and did the same thing a few years
> >ago.
>
>
> Which fan blades? Generator or engine? Generator blades are open on
> the bottom of the generator housing..the engine fan is tucked in behind
> the radiator nicely.
Rather than trying to be careful, I would fabricate and install a simple fan
shroud and be done with it.
Joe Gwinn
Buerste
With a bit of luck the engine is free. I remember your stuck piston
adventure.
Gunner Asch
wrote:
Cringe...yeah..that has concerned me. What would you guys do prior to
trying to start up an engine thats sat for 12 or more years?
Gunner Asch
Thankfully..Crom has increased my skill set somewhat since those
days....not a lot..but some. Now if I could only make them universally
"pretty"....sigh
Michael A. Terrell
Make sure to use plenty of steam to remove all the 'Liberal
droppings'! ;-)
--
Greed is the root of all eBay.
Steve W.
> On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 11:23:06 -0500, "Buerste" <bue...@buerste.com>
> wrote:
>
>> "Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:63c3p5ddu7sh8r3s0...@4ax.com...
>>> Anyone know anything about this beasty?
>>>
>>> http://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/HobartGasolineWelder#
>>>
>>> I brought it home last night. Previous owner claimed it ran the last
>>> time they welded with it..about 12 yrs ago. Look at the wheels....blink
>>> blink..Ive never seen a wheel with no hole in the middle before. I drug
>>> it from Bakersfield..about 45 miles at 55-60 mph and the bearings didnt
>>> get warm..and I know it had sat parked for at least 8 yrs since they
>>> pulled it down from the ranch.
>>>
>>> Owner claimed it had come off a Liberty Ship vintage WW2...shrug
>>>
>>> Anyone have any ideas?
>>>
>>> Gunner
>>>
>>> Whenever a Liberal utters the term "Common Sense approach"....grab your
>>> wallet, your ass, and your guns because the sombitch is about to do
>>> something damned nasty to all three of them.
>>
>> With a bit of luck the engine is free. I remember your stuck piston
>> adventure.
>>
> Cringe...yeah..that has concerned me. What would you guys do prior to
> trying to start up an engine thats sat for 12 or more years?
>
> Gunner
>
Make sure it turns over, has spark and that the carb isn't plugged full
of varnish/old gas/dirt daubers.
If possible it wouldn't be a bad idea to connect up a way to push some
new oil into the bearings and such before turning it over a lot. If it
has a distributer driven pump you could use a tool to spin the pump
until it has oil pressure.
Then shoot a small amount of Kroil/WD 40 or other THIN creeping lube
into each plug hole and turn it over slowly so the oil can coat the
walls. Then shoot some gas into the carb bore and see if it fires.
Make sure the gauges work prior to starting on this. Nothing like
thinking everything is OK when you really have no oil pressure!
--
Steve W.
Gunner Asch
ROFLMAO! Indeed.
Gunner Asch
wrote:
Good ideas all! Noted!!
Thanks!!
Ignoramus26053
> On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:56:26 -0600, Ignoramus28336
><ignoram...@NOSPAM.28336.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Good thing that it is a simplified welder. Nice cables too.
>>
>>Does it crank?
>>
>>i
>
> No idea. Its missing the battery.
>
> Chuckle..the welding leads I suspect are as hard as a rock. Here in the
> high desert...when its 120F..and stuff enclosed in a metal box and
stand
No, it is old insulation, prior to use of neoprene rubber.
I would just try cranking it without any special preparations.
If it does not crank, see if it is frozen. If it is, take it to the
scrap yard along with the remains of the other welder. If it is not
frozen, I would mess with it a little.
I would not personally spend too much time on it, it is
counterproductive. If a couple of "easy fixes" do not fix it, just
sell it with full disclosure or part it out. This is just a personal
opinion.
The age is beyond what is maintainable, no one knows these engines any
more, no parts are available, etc. I doubt it has much collector
value, but if you are lucky and its runs, it would be a great luck and
a success story.
i
Gunner Asch
wrote:
I added some pics after its trip to the carwash, including the Left side
of the engine.
http://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/HobartGasolineWelder#
Ive posted the infor and a request on the Hobart group and was told it
was a Chrysler inline 6.
Still dont know the year of manufacture..or even if it can be
started...soon.
sta...@prolynx.com
> On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:01:02 -0800, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com>
base that on a VW I resurrected years ago. Every bit of rubber on the
thing had to be replaced, I was lucky I didn't have a nice barbecue.
What you might see if you can do is to get the thing to fire off on
either the vapor from a propane torch inserted in the carb intake or a
couple of tablespoons of gas dumped down same. A set of well
separated jumper cables would substitute for the missing battery.
Would give you a better idea if it's worth working over or just
parting out. Right after that would be changing oil, then changing
out rubber and maybe wiring.
Stan
Larry Jaques
<gunne...@gmail.com> scrawled the following:
>On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 11:23:06 -0500, "Buerste" <bue...@buerste.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:63c3p5ddu7sh8r3s0...@4ax.com...
>>> Anyone know anything about this beasty?
>>>
>>> http://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/HobartGasolineWelder#
>>>
>>> I brought it home last night. Previous owner claimed it ran the last
>>> time they welded with it..about 12 yrs ago. Look at the wheels....blink
>>> blink..Ive never seen a wheel with no hole in the middle before. I drug
>>> it from Bakersfield..about 45 miles at 55-60 mph and the bearings didnt
>>> get warm..and I know it had sat parked for at least 8 yrs since they
>>> pulled it down from the ranch.
>>>
>>> Owner claimed it had come off a Liberty Ship vintage WW2...shrug
>>>
>>> Anyone have any ideas?
>>>
>>> Gunner
>>>
>>> Whenever a Liberal utters the term "Common Sense approach"....grab your
>>> wallet, your ass, and your guns because the sombitch is about to do
>>> something damned nasty to all three of them.
>>
>>
>>With a bit of luck the engine is free. I remember your stuck piston
>>adventure.
>>
>Cringe...yeah..that has concerned me. What would you guys do prior to
>trying to start up an engine thats sat for 12 or more years?
Fresh gas in the tank and carb, Marvel Mystery oil down the bore, pop
the distributor and use a drill to build up the oil pressure, and hand
rotate it through at least a couple revs before using the starter, to
make sure you don't already have broken parts in there ready to do
damage when it's cranked.
Larry Jaques
<gunne...@gmail.com> scrawled the following:
>I added some pics after its trip to the carwash, including the Left side
>of the engine.
>
>http://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/HobartGasolineWelder#
>
>Ive posted the infor and a request on the Hobart group and was told it
>was a Chrysler inline 6.
>Still dont know the year of manufacture..or even if it can be
>started...soon.
Wow, some hack electrician must have wired up that trailer for ya.
<snort> That block looks like the same one they use for the slant 6,
IIRC. Other than the flat head, it could be a newer engine.
Hey, did you see that they recalled some Obama Motors Cobalts for
steering problems the other day? I'd begun to think that they were
running down Toyota to get rid of the competition. Guess not.
Gunner Asch
So far Im able to determine that the engine is extremely common, made up
to the late 1970s. A Chrysler inline 6 and used in many automobiles as
well as industrial equipment.
So engine parts should be fairly easy to get, based on viewing posts on
a number of welding newsgroups.
The welder of course..shrug..all the wire looks to be in acceptable
condition so Im not terribly concerned about that portion.
Gunner
Ignoramus26053
This is great news!
i
Gunner Asch
<ignoram...@NOSPAM.26053.invalid> wrote:
>
>If it does not crank, see if it is frozen. If it is, take it to the
>scrap yard along with the remains of the other welder. If it is not
>frozen, I would mess with it a little.
Remains of the Miller 55G that my buddy is rebuilding for me?
Odd you would say that. Have you priced a used one recently?
Are you claiming that if an engine on a $2000 welder needs minor
rebuilding, one should simply throw it into the trash?
Sure you didnt take a pry bar to the head recently?
Buerste
Drink some beers? "Here, hold my beer and watch THIS!
JTMcC
> On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 18:31:03 -0600, Ignoramus26053
> <ignoram...@NOSPAM.26053.invalid> wrote:
>
>>
>>If it does not crank, see if it is frozen. If it is, take it to the
>>scrap yard along with the remains of the other welder. If it is not
>>frozen, I would mess with it a little.
>
>
> Remains of the Miller 55G that my buddy is rebuilding for me?
>
> Odd you would say that. Have you priced a used one recently?
>
> Are you claiming that if an engine on a $2000 welder needs minor
> rebuilding, one should simply throw it into the trash?
>
> Sure you didnt take a pry bar to the head recently?
>
> Gunner
For sure don't just scrap it. Everythings still available for most of the
older industrial engines.
The problem might be generator parts. A call to the Bakersfield Praxair
welding machine shop will likely tell you what is or isn't available. I'm
sure Wendell is completely retired by now but there are some other guys in
there that are very good and very helpfull.
It's a true DC generator, and there are still a (dwindling) number of people
using them. I knew a guy a few years ago running an early 40's 350 amp
Hobart generator with a Cummins, he put the original engine in his
generator.
Hobart used a variety of common ind engines over the years in their
machines. Worst case would be part it out or sell it to someone with a
similar machine, if you have the time to find that guy.
JTMcC.
Richard W.
I thought it just might be a Chrysler industrial engine. I never used one,
but knew someone who has a long time ago.
Richard W.
Martin H. Eastburn
to gas - cars on the highways would burst into flames.
It seemed that older cars had rubber hoses and those from out of state
for the most part ate through the rubber and dripped and sprayed gas
over the engine.
Oh yea - MTBE - finally got that brain cell out of the trash container!
Martin
Martin H. Eastburn
with duals in the rear.
The unit had a 4 or 6 cylinder engine in the rear attached to a 220 100 amp
alternator.
If you see a junk yard that has recked motor homes - larger ones - might
have a nice 4 or 6 cylinder engine made to drive a generator. Normally
in the passenger side rear.
His was water cooled and ran off the 50 gallon tank of gas.
Also, one winter he forgot to fill the cylinders with oil during the
winter. Lived in North Dakota at the time. He came down to our house
and I took him to a diesel truck repair shop - the tool store next door
to buy a large box wrench - as the front end of the main drive shaft
was a hex. The cylinders had locked up. When finding that out,
he put in cylinder top oil in each, replaced the plugs and drove
to our house... We turned the main shaft over and it got easier and easier
to turn. Finally after several complete turns Dad decided to hit the switch.
It fired right off and ran for years.
Martin
Bill McKee
"Richard W." <raw...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:WtadnQSurenfjg7W...@molalla.net...
The best engine for those old welders was a Ford aircooled V4. Flat head,
but ran great. Last one my dad got had never been run or had run maybe a
total or 20 minutes. Was hooked up to the Air Raid siren at the Richmond,
CA shipyards on a building that later became a Ford assembly line. He had
part of the contract for dismantling the Ford plant.
Steve B
> Anyone know anything about this beasty?
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/HobartGasolineWelder#
>
> I brought it home last night. Previous owner claimed it ran the last
> time they welded with it..about 12 yrs ago. Look at the wheels....blink
> blink..Ive never seen a wheel with no hole in the middle before. I drug
> it from Bakersfield..about 45 miles at 55-60 mph and the bearings didnt
> get warm..and I know it had sat parked for at least 8 yrs since they
> pulled it down from the ranch.
>
> Owner claimed it had come off a Liberty Ship vintage WW2...shrug
>
> Anyone have any ideas?
>
> Gunner
Is that a Continental engine?
Steve
Michael A. Terrell
Gunner Asch wrote:
>
> So far Im able to determine that the engine is extremely common, made up
> to the late 1970s. A Chrysler inline 6 and used in many automobiles as
> well as industrial equipment.
The Chrysler 225 slant six? I have one in my garage with less than
3000 miles after a complete rebuild by a mechanical Engineer who
collected Mopar. He said it is from a '63 Valiant. He did a complet
rebuild, then decided to cram a Hemi into the car.
Michael A. Terrell
JTMcC wrote:
>
> For sure don't just scrap it. Everythings still available for most of the
> older industrial engines.
> The problem might be generator parts. A call to the Bakersfield Praxair
> welding machine shop will likely tell you what is or isn't available. I'm
> sure Wendell is completely retired by now but there are some other guys in
There may be room for a small one wire alternator in there. You
don't need a big generator for the electrical system. Just enough to
charge the battery and to power the ignition system.
Michael A. Terrell
Gunner Asch wrote:
>
> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> >
> > Make sure to use plenty of steam to remove all the 'Liberal
> >droppings'! ;-)
>
> ROFLMAO! Indeed.
You have no idea where they've been, or what kind of diseases they
leave behind. :(
JTMcC
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:4B933A0C...@earthlink.net...
The WELDING generator, you DO need that.
JTMcC.
JTMcC
The WELDING generator, you DO need that.
JTMcC.
>
>
Steve B
>
> Gunner Asch wrote:
>>
>> So far Im able to determine that the engine is extremely common, made up
>> to the late 1970s. A Chrysler inline 6 and used in many automobiles as
>> well as industrial equipment.
Duh. I should have counted the spark plugs. I'll just go stand in the
corner for a while.
Doh tee Doh!
Steve
Gunner Asch
<lja...@diversify.invalid> wrote:
>On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 16:50:38 -0800, the infamous Gunner Asch
><gunne...@gmail.com> scrawled the following:
>
>>I added some pics after its trip to the carwash, including the Left side
>>of the engine.
>>
>>http://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/HobartGasolineWelder#
>>
>>Ive posted the infor and a request on the Hobart group and was told it
>>was a Chrysler inline 6.
>>Still dont know the year of manufacture..or even if it can be
>>started...soon.
>
>Wow, some hack electrician must have wired up that trailer for ya.
><snort> That block looks like the same one they use for the slant 6,
>IIRC. Other than the flat head, it could be a newer engine.
Ayup...got the hack electrician to wire it up for me in the dark with a
mini-Mag between his teeth, in Harbor Freights parking lot. Shrug.
Id been working since 6am, then drove 3 hours up from LA, had to run
around trying to find good used tires and having them changed out,
trying to find a ball in my gear that would hold the hitch, etc etc.
But I got it home safely. No tickets, no washee. Thats all that counts.
Now I got to figure out where to stick it. The back 40 is still
flooded..where the mud isnt 4" deep. And will be going out in a few and
straightening the jack stand so it will be self supporting.
>
>Hey, did you see that they recalled some Obama Motors Cobalts for
>steering problems the other day? I'd begun to think that they were
>running down Toyota to get rid of the competition. Guess not.
No, I missed that one. Ive not watched TV in over a month...and
frankly..havent missed it.
Gunner Asch
wrote:
Thats sorta what I was thinking.
Ive got a good Ranger 9, that Miller 55G thats slowly being rebuild by a
buddy who owes me favors, and now the Hobart. At worst..I can haul it
in the Oildorado parade later this year, at best..Ill have a nice
loaner/heavy welder that hauls marvelously behind the Ranger.
Shrug. Or I can fix it up and give it a paint job and then peddle it.
This afterall..is the oil patch..and a trailer mounted 300 amp welder
should sell for more than I gave for it...ie..to date...$60 (tires)
Gunner
Gunner Asch
Well to be fair...they are grouped wierd..and 3/4 are hidden behind the
carby. So dont be rough on yourself <G>
Steve W.
>
> Thats sorta what I was thinking.
>
> Ive got a good Ranger 9, that Miller 55G thats slowly being rebuild by a
> buddy who owes me favors, and now the Hobart. At worst..I can haul it
> in the Oildorado parade later this year, at best..Ill have a nice
> loaner/heavy welder that hauls marvelously behind the Ranger.
>
> Shrug. Or I can fix it up and give it a paint job and then peddle it.
> This afterall..is the oil patch..and a trailer mounted 300 amp welder
> should sell for more than I gave for it...ie..to date...$60 (tires)
>
> Gunner
>
Wish I was closer, I'd double your money quick...
--
Steve W.
Steve B
I believe you'll make a couple of bucks off that. My BIL came over after I
got my SA200 running, and had a friend. I found out from talking to him
that he is a welding instructor at the local college. I showed him the
SA200. He made me promise that if I ever wanted to sell it, I called him
first. His eyes just about popped out of his head.
I think you'll make decent money on that welder.
Steve
Larry Jaques
<gunne...@gmail.com> scrawled the following:
>On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 17:24:20 -0800, Larry Jaques
><lja...@diversify.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 16:50:38 -0800, the infamous Gunner Asch
>><gunne...@gmail.com> scrawled the following:
>>
>>>I added some pics after its trip to the carwash, including the Left side
>>>of the engine.
>>>
>>>http://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/HobartGasolineWelder#
>>>
>>>Ive posted the infor and a request on the Hobart group and was told it
>>>was a Chrysler inline 6.
>>>Still dont know the year of manufacture..or even if it can be
>>>started...soon.
>>
>>Wow, some hack electrician must have wired up that trailer for ya.
>><snort> That block looks like the same one they use for the slant 6,
>>IIRC. Other than the flat head, it could be a newer engine.
>
>Ayup...got the hack electrician to wire it up for me in the dark with a
>mini-Mag between his teeth, in Harbor Freights parking lot. Shrug.
Oh, what fun! <g> BTDT.
>Id been working since 6am, then drove 3 hours up from LA, had to run
>around trying to find good used tires and having them changed out,
>trying to find a ball in my gear that would hold the hitch, etc etc.
>
>But I got it home safely. No tickets, no washee. Thats all that counts.
Indubitably.
>Now I got to figure out where to stick it. The back 40 is still
>flooded..where the mud isnt 4" deep. And will be going out in a few and
>straightening the jack stand so it will be self supporting.
I noticed that. Was it like that when you picked it up, or only after
you pulled it with the low-slung hitch?
>>Hey, did you see that they recalled some Obama Motors Cobalts for
>>steering problems the other day? I'd begun to think that they were
>>running down Toyota to get rid of the competition. Guess not.
>
>No, I missed that one. Ive not watched TV in over a month...and
>frankly..havent missed it.
April will mark my 3rd year without TV. I don't miss it at all. I get
movies from Netflix for 1/4 the price of DISH, and they don';t have
any commercials, either. Watching a half hour news program on the one
station I get here is excruciating. I'm constantly attacking the
remote to mute the damned commercials. It's official: half hour news
programs consist of 13 minutes of content and 17 minutes of
commercials. TV: 500 channels of horrible programming + commercials.
Gunner Asch
wrote:
<G>
In another couple months..if things dont pick up for me..I might do it.
Gunner
"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.
This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost
Michael A. Terrell
Did you look at the photos? There are TWO generators. One is for the
electrical system.
Gunner Asch
<lja...@diversify.invalid> wrote:
It was sitting in a very large mud hole, both tires exploded, with the
jack looking exactly as it does. I had to back up to the edge of the mud
hole, stomp around in 4" of mud, hook up with a chain to a ball in the
upper bumper, pry up the tounge, bolt the chain into a loop and then
very gently pull the protesting bastard out of the mud some 30 feet to a
dry spot, jack up the toung with my truck jack, then back under it, then
back out when I discovered my 2" ball was too big, install a 1 7/8" one,
then back up again, hook up, then dig through my truck for a can of
lube..not find any..then ultimately stick my fingers down the power
steering pump reservior for enough lube to allow the bolt style draw
toggle to finally break through the rust I had to wire brush off the
draw toggle and tighten up. This after jacking it up, pulling off one
wheel, and traveling a meandering 5 miles one way until I finally found
a used tire shop that had a unmatched pair of 16:" tires, have one
mounted, return and install, then jack up the other side, drive back and
have the other one mounted, then return and install the second one. By
this time it was dark. The welder is narrow enough that both my tail
lights could be seen on either side of it from the rear..but given that
law enforcement is on a revenue raising campaign because of reduced tax
income....I drove to Harbor Freight on back streets and up alleys and
down byways into their parking lot where I picked up some bulbs and
whatnot..then dig out a spool of 10ga THHN from truck stock and get
enough lighting functioning to drive the 34 miles to my home.
>
>
>>>Hey, did you see that they recalled some Obama Motors Cobalts for
>>>steering problems the other day? I'd begun to think that they were
>>>running down Toyota to get rid of the competition. Guess not.
>>
>>No, I missed that one. Ive not watched TV in over a month...and
>>frankly..havent missed it.
>
>April will mark my 3rd year without TV. I don't miss it at all. I get
>movies from Netflix for 1/4 the price of DISH, and they don';t have
>any commercials, either. Watching a half hour news program on the one
>station I get here is excruciating. I'm constantly attacking the
>remote to mute the damned commercials. It's official: half hour news
>programs consist of 13 minutes of content and 17 minutes of
>commercials. TV: 500 channels of horrible programming + commercials.
I gave my converter box in my LA trailer to my wife for her bedroom TV
as I couldnt put up an external antenna. Now Ive got until this coming
Friday to move my RV someplace, or park it in storage and sleep in my
truck from now on.
Not something to look forwards to, eh?
Larry Jaques
<gunne...@gmail.com> scrawled the following:
>On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:41:05 -0800, Larry Jaques
><lja...@diversify.invalid> wrote:
>>I noticed that. Was it like that when you picked it up, or only after
>>you pulled it with the low-slung hitch?
>
>It was sitting in a very large mud hole, both tires exploded, with the
>jack looking exactly as it does. I had to back up to the edge of the mud
>hole, stomp around in 4" of mud, hook up with a chain to a ball in the
>upper bumper, pry up the tounge, bolt the chain into a loop and then
If you write "tongue", I'll know what you're talking about.
>very gently pull the protesting bastard out of the mud some 30 feet to a
>dry spot, jack up the toung with my truck jack, then back under it, then
>back out when I discovered my 2" ball was too big, install a 1 7/8" one,
Oy vay.
>then back up again, hook up, then dig through my truck for a can of
>lube..not find any..then ultimately stick my fingers down the power
>steering pump reservior for enough lube to allow the bolt style draw
There ya go.
>toggle to finally break through the rust I had to wire brush off the
>draw toggle and tighten up. This after jacking it up, pulling off one
>wheel, and traveling a meandering 5 miles one way until I finally found
>a used tire shop that had a unmatched pair of 16:" tires, have one
>mounted, return and install, then jack up the other side, drive back and
>have the other one mounted, then return and install the second one. By
>this time it was dark. The welder is narrow enough that both my tail
>lights could be seen on either side of it from the rear..but given that
>law enforcement is on a revenue raising campaign because of reduced tax
>income....I drove to Harbor Freight on back streets and up alleys and
>down byways into their parking lot where I picked up some bulbs and
>whatnot..then dig out a spool of 10ga THHN from truck stock and get
>enough lighting functioning to drive the 34 miles to my home.
10ga ought to be thick enough for taillights, yeah. <bseg> You should
have picked up a set of magnetic trailer lights from HF last month for
ten bucks during their sale. You bring home enough strays to warrant
a set, huh?
So, you're saying that, with labor included, you have less than a
grand in this thing, right? <g>
>I gave my converter box in my LA trailer to my wife for her bedroom TV
>as I couldnt put up an external antenna. Now Ive got until this coming
>Friday to move my RV someplace, or park it in storage and sleep in my
>truck from now on.
>
>Not something to look forwards to, eh?
No, I wouldn't think so. I've made half a year's income in the past
several months, so I know I'll be able to pay my income tax this year
without a hitch.
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JTMcC
I don't need to look, I know what the machines look like.
You replied to my post about generator parts, welding generator parts
availability with a comment about the engine charging system. Pretty simple
really, I'm talking about the generator. On a welding machine. A really
critical part.
JTMcC.
JTMcC
In your part of the world there's a chance that the engine is one in common
use on irrigation pumps or other agricultural applications. So in the event
you part it out that's another possible group that might be interested.
JTMcC.
Don Foreman
<theelusivest...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:35:52 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote:
>
>> Anyone know anything about this beasty?
>>
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/HobartGasolineWelder#
>>
>> I brought it home last night. Previous owner claimed it ran the last
>> time they welded with it..about 12 yrs ago. Look at the wheels....blink
>> blink..Ive never seen a wheel with no hole in the middle before. I drug
>> it from Bakersfield..about 45 miles at 55-60 mph and the bearings didnt
>> get warm..and I know it had sat parked for at least 8 yrs since they
>> pulled it down from the ranch.
>>
>> Owner claimed it had come off a Liberty Ship vintage WW2...shrug
>>
>> Anyone have any ideas?
>
>Nope, sorry Gunner.
>
>But could you do me a real biggie and run a couppla tests for the post down
>below please?
>
>As I said I've been lurking and occasionally posting on here.
>
>I know all about your wheel incident & love your posts.
I didn't see his 5-March post on RCM.
My late FIL and very good friend had a gas-engine trailer-mounted
Hobart, said it was the sweetest welder he'd ever used. He burned a
lot of 7018 with that machine.
I coulda had it for the asking when he died but I've no place to keep
it or use it and someone who did was very glad to have it. There was
some *very* heavy stuff in the basement, so the deal was they got that
Hobart for a very good price providing they also take a welding table
that easily weighed 500 lb. No prob, they showed up with some big
friends and it was all gone before sundown. Good deal for everyone.
>
>Hell, I'm learning from reading on here
>
>(posted from sejw)
Michael A. Terrell
Right. Sure. OK.
--
Lead free solder is Belgium's version of 'Hold my beer and watch this!'
Erwin F.Sawall Jr.
were made probably a bit before the WW ll and during the war and were the
back bone of the ship building industry. This unit is no doubt a 300 amp DC
welder. These were made by Hobart, Lincoln, GE, Glenn Roberts, and such. The
flat head 6 cylinder Chrysler industrial was very common as were 6 cylinder
Chevrolet's. As the war progressed 4 cylinder Jeeps were also used. These
same welders were also built as motor/ generator welders and usually ran on
3 phase 220 or 440 volts. They were great welders. The DC is taken off of
the armature via brushes and that was the only thing that would wear out or
maybe a bearing now and then. Those were dam good welders from an era when
things were made hell for stout. They welded together may Liberty ships and
others. Many were used by the Seabees during the big war. They don't make
them like they used to. Erwin
P.S. I hope that someone else did not post the same info. I did not run
through the long thread. Just the beginning and the end.
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