"Cliff" <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
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Still jacking off nightly to assassination conspiracy theories, eh?
Good post.
Quite true.
Society is and will continue to deal with the conservative nutjobs.
TMT
The present administration painted Veterans as terrorists, so it
doesn't surprise me that they are now afraid of their own shadows.
Demonizing conservatives could lead to violence. Somebody could have
the thought, "If we have the name, why not have the game?" Liberals
need to be careful in what they say, tone down the vileness of their
smear tactics.
<snip>
>Demonizing conservatives could lead to violence. Somebody could have
>the thought, "If we have the name, why not have the game?" Liberals
>need to be careful in what they say, tone down the vileness of their
>smear tactics.
If somebody says nasty things about you, you're going to shoot them, right?
I mean, why else would they have to be "careful"? Or what kind of "violence"
did you have in mind?
Another threat from the right, eh? That's why you're considered by decent
people to be such sleazes, like schoolyard bullies who never grew up.
--
Ed Huntress
"f. barnes" <fre...@centurytel.net> wrote in message
news:02dda195-5321-4e35...@u21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
"He said I was crazy so I shot him. But it's his fault for calling me
crazy". Is that about right?
Yes it will, but would it be wrong of me to say dealt with in a violent way?
Hawke
They're bullies.
The girl that killed herself because all of the bullying could have as
easily let loose on her bullies.
Ed, I missed that. Can you show me where barnes said that?
> I mean, why else would they have to be "careful"? Or what kind of "violence"
> did you have in mind?
Oh, I see. You were just putting words in barnes mouth.
> Another threat from the right, eh? That's why you're considered by decent
> people to be such sleazes, like schoolyard bullies who never grew up.
You appear to be the one doing the bullying; putting words in other
peoples mouths, then condemning them for (not) saying it and calling
them names.
Way to go, Ed. Love that inclusiveness.
> --
> Ed Huntress
Indeed. Veterans who took the Oath, to protect the Constitution from
"all enemies, foreign and domestic"
They should be scared to death. For good reason.
they cant. they are mentally ill..sure of their own superiority.
Pity they will suddenly find out that they are not superior, when the
lawn chair is kicked out from beneith them..and the rope snaps their
neck.
Gunner
>Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:8a8343ac-17c0-41ce-
>ae50-36b...@c1g2000vbc.googlegroups.com:
>
>> Society is and will continue to deal with the conservative nutjobs.
>
>Yup.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/yyn6ejv
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWnxlFbYjVY
>
>http://tinyurl.com/y5npwts
>
>http://toledoblade.com/article/20100401/NEWS16/4010369
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8CdfQGlgVw
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_antisemitism#A_new_phenomenon
>
>Etc.
>
>Your idea is not a new one - http://tinyurl.com/y3u4ddf
>
History shows that the Ku Klux Klan was the terrorist arm of the
Democrat Party. This ugly fact about the Democrat Party is detailed in
the book, A Short History of Reconstruction, (Harper & Row Publishers,
Inc., 1990) by Dr. Eric Foner, the renown liberal historian who is the
DeWitt Clinton Professor of History at Columbia University. As a further
testament to his impeccable credentials, Professor Foner is only the
second person to serve as president of the three major professional
organizations: the Organization of American Historians, American
Historical Association, and Society of American Historians.
Democrats in the last century did not hide their connections to the Ku
Klux Klan. Georgia-born Democrat Nathan Bedford Forrest, a Grand Dragon
of the Ku Klux Klan wrote on page 21 of the September 1928 edition of
the Klan's The Kourier Magazine: "I have never voted for any man who was
not a regular Democrat. My father � never voted for any man who was not
a Democrat. My grandfather was �the head of the Ku Klux Klan in
reconstruction days�. My great-grandfather was a life-long Democrat�. My
great-great-grandfather was�one of the founders of the Democratic
party."
Dr. Foner in his book explores the history of the origins of Ku Klux
Klan and provides a chilling account of the atrocities committed by
Democrats against Republicans, black and white.
On page 146 of his book, Professor Foner wrote: "Founded in 1866 as a
Tennessee social club, the Ku Klux Klan spread into nearly every
Southern state, launching a 'reign of terror' against Republican leaders
black and white." Page 184 of his book contains the definitive
statements: "In effect, the Klan was a military force serving the
interests of the Democratic party, the planter class, and all those who
desired the restoration of white supremacy. It aimed to destroy the
Republican party's infrastructure, undermine the Reconstruction state,
reestablish control of the black labor force, and restore racial
subordination in every aspect of Southern life."
Heartbreaking are Professor Foner's recitations of the horrific acts of
terror inflicted by Democrats on black and white Republicans. Recounted
on pages 184-185 of his book is one such act of terror: "Jack Dupree, a
victim of a particularly brutal murder in Monroe County, Mississippi -
assailants cut his throat and disemboweled him, all within sight of his
wife, who had just given birth to twins - was 'president of a republican
club' and known as a man who 'would speak his mind.'"
"White gangs roamed New Orleans, intimidating blacks and breaking up
Republican meetings," wrote Dr. Foner on page 146 of his book. On page
186, he wrote: "An even more extensive 'reign of terror' engulfed
Jackson, a plantation county in Florida's panhandle. 'That is where
Santa has his seat,' remarked a black clergyman; all told over 150
persons were killed, among them black leaders and Jewish merchant Samuel
Fleischman, resented for his Republican views and for dealing fairly
with black customers."
The Democrats started the Ku Klux Klan to lynch and terrorize blacks.
The Democrats fought to prevent the passage of every civil rights law
beginning with the civil rights laws of the 1860s, and continuing with
the civil rights laws of the 1950s and 1960s. During the civil rights
era of the 1960s, Dr. King was fighting the Democrats who stood in the
school house doors, turned skin-burning fire hoses on blacks and let
loose vicious dogs. Democrat President John F. Kennedy is lauded as a
proponent of civil rights. However, Kennedy voted against the 1957 Civil
Rights Act while he was a senator, as did Democrat Sen. Al Gore Sr. And
after he became President, Kennedy was opposed to the 1963 March on
Washington by Dr. King that was organized by A. Phillip Randolph, who
was a black Republican. President Kennedy, through his brother Atty.
Gen. Robert Kennedy, had Dr. King wiretapped and investigated by the FBI
on suspicion of being a Communist in order to undermine Dr. King.
In March of 1968, while referring to Dr. King's leaving Memphis, Tenn.,
after riots broke out where a teenager was killed, Democrat Sen. Robert
Byrd (W.Va.), a former member of the Ku Klux Klan, called Dr. King a
"trouble-maker" who starts trouble, but runs like a coward after trouble
is ignited. A few weeks later, Dr. King returned to Memphis and was
assassinated on April 4, 1968.
Contrary to the false assertions by Democrats, the racist "Dixiecrats"
did not all migrate to the Republican Party. "Dixiecrats" declared that
they would rather vote for a "yellow dog" than vote for a Republican
because the Republican Party was know as the party for blacks. Today,
some of those "Dixiecrats" continue their political careers as
Democrats, including Robert Byrd, who is well known for having been a
"Keagle" in the Ku Klux Klan.
Another former "Dixiecrat" is former Democrat Sen. Ernest Hollings, who
put up the Confederate flag over the state Capitol when he was the
governor of South Carolina. There was no public outcry when Democrat
Sen. Christopher Dodd praised Byrd as someone who would have been "a
great senator for any moment," including the Civil War. Yet Democrats
denounced then-Senate GOP leader Trent Lott for his remarks about Sen.
Strom Thurmond (R.-S.C.). Thurmond was never in the Ku Klux Klan and
defended blacks against lynching and the discriminatory poll taxes
imposed on blacks by Democrats. If Byrd and Thurmond were alive during
the Civil War, and Byrd had his way, Thurmond would have been lynched.
>Ed, I missed that. Can you show me where barnes said that?
I'm just asking the question.
> I mean, why else would they have to be "careful"? Or what kind of
> "violence"
> did you have in mind?
>Oh, I see. You were just putting words in barnes mouth.
Barnes is pussfooting like a lawyer, alluding to "violence" and "the game,"
and couching a threat in "being careful or..." Or what? Violence,
apparently. But I'm only asking the question.
I'm just helping him out. He needs a little spine to say openly what he's
couching in barely deniable terms. He's like Gunner and his Sons of Timothy
McVeigh. We'll see if he has the honesty and courage to answer directly and
forthrightly.
> Another threat from the right, eh? That's why you're considered by decent
> people to be such sleazes, like schoolyard bullies who never grew up.
>You appear to be the one doing the bullying; putting words in other
>peoples mouths, then condemning them for (not) saying it and calling
>them names.
I didn't threaten him with anything. I'm not the bully here. The sleazes who
use backhanded threats -- people "need to be careful" or it could "lead to
violence" -- are the bullies.
>Way to go, Ed. Love that inclusiveness.
I'm always happy to help people who need a little stiffening of the backbone
to say what they mean.
--
Ed Huntress
> >Ed, I missed that. Can you show me where barnes said that?
>
> I'm just asking the question.
You're pussy-footing around like an attorney.
> > I mean, why else would they have to be "careful"? Or what kind of
> > "violence"
> > did you have in mind?
> >Oh, I see. You were just putting words in barnes mouth.
>
> Barnes is pussfooting like a lawyer, alluding to "violence" and "the game,"
The original poster cited the media's claim that the right is trawling
for assassins.
What more do you need? Should be good for a conviction, right?
> and couching a threat in "being careful or..." Or what? Violence,
> apparently. But I'm only asking the question.
Of course you are.
> I'm just helping him out. He needs a little spine to say openly what he's
> couching in barely deniable terms. He's like Gunner and his Sons of Timothy
> McVeigh. We'll see if he has the honesty and courage to answer directly and
> forthrightly.
Why? The media has already told you all you need to know. See the
original posting.
> > Another threat from the right, eh? That's why you're considered by decent
> > people to be such sleazes, like schoolyard bullies who never grew up.
You've dicked-up the attributions
> >You appear to be the one doing the bullying; putting words in other
> >peoples mouths, then condemning them for (not) saying it and calling
> >them names.
>
> I didn't threaten him with anything. I'm not the bully here. The sleazes who
> use backhanded threats -- people "need to be careful" or it could "lead to
> violence" -- are the bullies.
You mean like the media in the original citation? You mean like
Napolitano calling Veteran's terrorists?
> >Way to go, Ed. Love that inclusiveness.
>
> I'm always happy to help people who need a little stiffening of the backbone
> to say what they mean.
Hmmm? Are you a fluffer? Just asking.
> --
> Ed Huntress
You have a point, but I'd rather just vote them out. Put
Constitutionalists in those slots. People who give a shit about
America.
I'd settle for people that have READ the Constitution, or at least the bills
they pass.
> >Ed, I missed that. Can you show me where barnes said that?
>
> I'm just asking the question.
>You're pussy-footing around like an attorney.
Not at all. You're not particularly original, and frequently small-minded
and rude. How's that?
> > I mean, why else would they have to be "careful"? Or what kind of
> > "violence"
> > did you have in mind?
> >Oh, I see. You were just putting words in barnes mouth.
>
> Barnes is pussfooting like a lawyer, alluding to "violence" and "the
> game,"
>The original poster cited the media's claim that the right is trawling
>for assassins.
I didn't read the OP's post. I just saw Fred's.
>What more do you need? Should be good for a conviction, right?
Veiling threats is a sign of bad character. Period.
> and couching a threat in "being careful or..." Or what? Violence,
> apparently. But I'm only asking the question.
>Of course you are.
I'll await his answer.
> I'm just helping him out. He needs a little spine to say openly what he's
> couching in barely deniable terms. He's like Gunner and his Sons of
> Timothy
> McVeigh. We'll see if he has the honesty and courage to answer directly
> and
> forthrightly.
>Why? The media has already told you all you need to know. See the
>original posting.
I'm not interested. The thing that caught my eye was the veiled threats.
> > Another threat from the right, eh? That's why you're considered by
> > decent
> > people to be such sleazes, like schoolyard bullies who never grew up.
>You've dicked-up the attributions
Not at all. The right is made up mostly of sleazy cowards and bullies.
That's why we hear threats of "violence" if liberals aren't "careful" in
what they say. That's a bully who's threatening violence over words. That's
a dirtbag. We see several of their defenders here.
> >You appear to be the one doing the bullying; putting words in other
> >peoples mouths, then condemning them for (not) saying it and calling
> >them names.
>
> I didn't threaten him with anything. I'm not the bully here. The sleazes
> who
> use backhanded threats -- people "need to be careful" or it could "lead to
> violence" -- are the bullies.
>You mean like the media in the original citation? You mean like
>Napolitano calling Veteran's terrorists?
Who cares? I'm not interested in what the "media" said. I'm interested in
what Fred said.
> >Way to go, Ed. Love that inclusiveness.
>
> I'm always happy to help people who need a little stiffening of the
> backbone
> to say what they mean.
>Hmmm? Are you a fluffer? Just asking.
I have no idea what a "fluffer" is, nor do I care.
No equivocation here, Hammy: You fit right into the mold. Too cowardly to
use your real name, defending threats of violance, you're a spineless twit.
But you're our twit, and kind of loveable at times. d8-)
--
Ed Huntress
>
>"He said I was crazy so I shot him. But it's his fault for calling me
>crazy". Is that about right?
Sounds like a Leftwinger to me. After all..most Leftwingers are crazy.
Gunner
Should I be offended?
> > > I mean, why else would they have to be "careful"? Or what kind of
> > > "violence"
> > > did you have in mind?
> > >Oh, I see. You were just putting words in barnes mouth.
>
> > Barnes is pussfooting like a lawyer, alluding to "violence" and "the
> > game,"
> >The original poster cited the media's claim that the right is trawling
> >for assassins.
>
> I didn't read the OP's post. I just saw Fred's.
So you came in in the middle, and you're uninformed.
> >What more do you need? Should be good for a conviction, right?
>
> Veiling threats is a sign of bad character. Period.
>
> > and couching a threat in "being careful or..." Or what? Violence,
> > apparently. But I'm only asking the question.
> >Of course you are.
>
> I'll await his answer.
Why would he answer a bully?
> > I'm just helping him out. He needs a little spine to say openly what he's
> > couching in barely deniable terms. He's like Gunner and his Sons of
> > Timothy
> > McVeigh. We'll see if he has the honesty and courage to answer directly
> > and
> > forthrightly.
> >Why? The media has already told you all you need to know. See the
> >original posting.
>
> I'm not interested. The thing that caught my eye was the veiled threats.
You should meet Steve Robberson.
> > > Another threat from the right, eh? That's why you're considered by
> > > decent
> > > people to be such sleazes, like schoolyard bullies who never grew up.
> >You've dicked-up the attributions
>
> Not at all.
You must not see your postings the way I see them.
> The right is made up mostly of sleazy cowards and bullies.
> That's why we hear threats of "violence" if liberals aren't "careful" in
> what they say. That's a bully who's threatening violence over words. That's
> a dirtbag. We see several of their defenders here.
So people shouldn't watch what they say, and there never are
consequences to actions, even if they are just words?
So there is no point to this thread, and talk radio isn't trawling for
assasins?
> > >You appear to be the one doing the bullying; putting words in other
> > >peoples mouths, then condemning them for (not) saying it and calling
> > >them names.
>
> > I didn't threaten him with anything. I'm not the bully here. The sleazes
> > who
> > use backhanded threats -- people "need to be careful" or it could "lead to
> > violence" -- are the bullies.
> >You mean like the media in the original citation? You mean like
> >Napolitano calling Veteran's terrorists?
>
> Who cares? I'm not interested in what the "media" said. I'm interested in
> what Fred said.
You're obtuse.
> > >Way to go, Ed. Love that inclusiveness.
>
> > I'm always happy to help people who need a little stiffening of the
> > backbone
> > to say what they mean.
> >Hmmm? Are you a fluffer? Just asking.
>
> I have no idea what a "fluffer" is, nor do I care.
>
> No equivocation here, Hammy: You fit right into the mold. Too cowardly to
> use your real name, defending threats of violance, you're a spineless twit.
You are much like the SEIU union thugs trying to bully a tea party
member into saying something negative as the reporter snaps the
photo. You and the mainstream media.
See the original posting and you'll be less ignorant and act less
ignorant.
Well, that would make sense, too. OK, let's set the bar real low and
see what happens.
Gunner Asch wrote:
>
> History shows that the Ku Klux Klan was the terrorist arm of the Democrat[ic] Party.
The key word here is "was". Those old Southern Democrats/Dixicrats
are gone because almost all of them converted to the Republican party
after Lyndon Johnson, a Democrat, got the Voting Rights Act passed in
1964. Today's Republican party is nothing like the party of Lincoln
but a lot more like the old Democratic/Dixicrat party, while today's
Democrats are the real ideological descendants of Lincoln.
You really need to give up your delusions.
It was the Republican party that championed the Civil Rights Act and
were able to beat off the challenges from KKK members of the Democrat
party to push the legislation through congress.
Albert Gore Sr., and Robert Byrd, a former Klansman whom Democrats
still call "the conscience of the Senate" (and currently forth in line
for the Presidency), filibustered against the civil rights bill for
fourteen straight hours before the final vote.
The House of Representatives passed the bill by 289 to 124, a vote in
which 80% of Republicans and 63% of Democrats voted “yes”.
The Senate vote was 73 to 27, with 21 Democrats and only 6 Republicans
voting “no”
>You really need to give up your delusions.
You really need to stop trying to distort history.
But none of that has anything to do with the two parties today. Not one
Southern Republican Senator voted in favor of the bill. Only one Southern
Democrat Senator voted in favor. Only 7 Southern Democrats voted in favor of
the House bill; not one Southern Republican voted in favor.
The split was not between parties, but between north and south. And then, as
you know, and as even Gunner knows, Nixon exploited that split and got those
Southern Democrats to switch over to the Republican Party, through what is
called today his "Southern strategy."
Nearly all of the racists are in the Republican Party now. The Northern
Republicans who spearheaded the CRA through Congress, such as my old hero Ev
Dirksen, would now be driven out of the Republican Party as "RINOs."
You know it and Gunner knows it.
--
Ed Huntress
Are Glenn and Rush liberals?
TMT
>The key word here is "was". Those old Southern Democrats/Dixicrats
>are gone because almost all of them converted to the Republican party
>after Lyndon Johnson, a Democrat, got the Voting Rights Act passed in
>1964.
You mean when the Republicans voted to pass the Voting Act, right? And
all the Democrats, Like Al Gores daddy..and Bubba Clintons mentor were
all voting against it?
And it should be noted..that Yellow Dog Democrats still count high in
the KKK.
Say..hows the eldest Senator ..Democrat doing these days? You
know...Grand Kleagle..Robert Bryd?
Gone you say? LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH! He is the Celebrated Elder
Statesment of the Democratic Party...
Changed my ass....
Gunner
Well said.
TMT
Thats what Leftwingers do. They try to pull a carpet over their
shitpiles and hopes no one smells their stink.
Gunner
No.
What goes around comes around.
If the nutjobs want to use violence, society has respond in kind.
And society has a MUCH BIGGER HAMMER.
TMT
So says the Coward Of California.
Paid those creditors yet Gunner?
TMT
Plan on swinging from your own porch Gunner?
TMT
Again well said.
TMT
Though the KKK doesn't act like they used to as far as beating or killing
for race, there is Klan type action in recent history. Labor Unions have
beaten, bullied, and other illegal activities against people for wanting to
feed their families. Even now, the jobs that didn't go overseas, such as
the power plants, the Union employees are choosing what $60k bass boat they
want while the people paying for it has to choose between power or their
medicine. And although I'm sure you'd like to spin it, we all know that
they are Democrats, grab any union publication around an election time and
you know the support the Democrats. But how did it turn out? Labor unions
and the Democrats paved the way for the union jobs to leave the country by
pricing themselves out of their job. There is no reason that I know of why
we can't produce here competitively with what it costs to produce and ship
from overseas. I know we can't compete with their labor rates but combining
automation and costs of overseas shipping, we should be able to be
competitive if Union workers could be happy with only 2X what others in
their area make. The bottom line is that much of the bailout money was to
pay for what the labor unions and Democrats did to manufacturing in the USA.
And I'm certainly not against unions, I signed a card and voted for a union
in the plant I work at, but human greed has to be limited, we are kind of
like Congress voting ourselves a raise. But $75 per hour for wages and
benefits is outrageous for a factory job when Toyota was finding plenty of
employees willing to work for almost half of that.
RogerN
Roger, Roger, stop right there. That is so over-the-top nuts for any adult
to say that anything else you have to say is done for.
Good night.
--
Ed Huntress
>>
>> Nearly all of the racists are in the Republican Party now. The Northern
>> Republicans who spearheaded the CRA through Congress, such as my old hero
>> Ev Dirksen, would now be driven out of the Republican Party as "RINOs."
>>
>> You know it and Gunner knows it.
>>
>> --
>> Ed Huntress
Say Ed...hows ol Robert Bryd doing these days? Oldest and most beloved
of the Democrat Congressmen?
You remember him dontcha? He was the Grand Kleagle of the KKK for a
very long time.
He still around?
Laugh laugh laugh
Gunner
"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.
This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost
>Though the KKK doesn't act like they used to as far as beating or killing
>for race, there is Klan type action in recent history. Labor Unions have
>beaten, bullied, and other illegal activities against people for wanting to
>feed their families.
That wouldnt be the SEIU would it?
The ones that beat up Tea Party members?
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/01/seiu_behind_antitea_party_webs.html
http://www.parcbench.com/2010/01/29/seiu-attacking-tea-party-patriots-and-tea-party-movement/
Sure they arnt Klan members? That poor black guy they are kicking the
shit out of is ......
Gunner
"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.
This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost
He died quite a while ago -- in his head. He just hasn't noticed it yet.
>
> You remember him dontcha? He was the Grand Kleagle of the KKK for a
> very long time.
>
> He still around?
Just barely.
>
> Laugh laugh laugh
'Someone tickling you there, Gunner? Or are you just spreading the joy that
comes from 40 years of sniffing vapors from your lead-casting pot?
--
Ed Huntress
These days Gunner is sticking his head in the lead-casting pot.
It's not helping.
TMT
Yeah, the Republicans were so onboard Strom Thurmond fillibustered the
bill for seven hours.
Robert Byrd...Grand Kleagle of the KKK..and current senior Democrat
Congress critter....filibustered it for 14 hours.
Sucks to be Democrat, doesnt it?
Gunner
Uh...
So let me get this right Roger...you complain here about abortion
stuff but when it comes to walking the talk about ethics you will work
for an organization and gladly take their money knowing that it is
outrageous?
That is the definition of a hypocrite.
And when one is a hypocrite in one part of one's life, you will be a
hypocrite in others.
TMT
Ex-Klansman Robert Byrd, the senior senator from West Virginia, casually
used the phrase "white nigger" twice on national TV this weekend.
Enraged civil rights groups organized a protest campaign against Sen.
Byrd and demanded that he undergo sensitivity training ... not. The
ex-Klansman, you see, is a Democrat. Democrats can join hate groups and
utter the ugliest racial slurs and get away with it because they are
Democrats.
Ex-Klansman Robert Byrd, the senior senator from West Virginia, casually
used the phrase "white nigger" twice on national TV this weekend.
Enraged civil rights groups organized a protest campaign against Sen.
Byrd and demanded that he undergo sensitivity training ... not.
The ex-Klansman, you see, is a Democrat. Democrats can join hate groups
and utter the ugliest racial slurs and get away with it because they are
Democrats. They belong to the party of racial tolerance and
understanding. They're paragons of virtue, and the rest of us are
bigoted rubes.
The ex-Klansman showed his true colors when asked by Fox News Sunday
morning talk show host Tony Snow about the state of race relations in
America. Sen. Byrd warned: "There are white niggers. I've seen a lot of
white niggers in my time. I'm going to use that word. We just need to
work together to make our country a better country, and I'd just as soon
quit talking about it so much."
The ex-Klansman, famed for Beltway blowhardism, should have quit talking
a lot sooner. Why any prominent politician in his right mind would
publicly and deliberately use the poisonous epithet "nigger" -- which
most daily newspapers refuse to spell out, no matter the context -- is
beyond comprehension. It's an open question as to whether the
rant-prone, 83-year-old Byrd is even in his right mind, but senility
doesn't excuse bigotry.
The ex-Klansman's admirers praise his historical knowledge, mastery of
procedural rules, and outspokenness. They refer to the Senate's senior
Democrat as the "conscience of the Senate." They downplay his
white-sheet-wearing days as a "brief mistake" -- as if joining the Klan
were like knocking over a glass of water. Oopsy.
This ex-Klansman wasn't just a passive member of the nation's most
notorious hate group. According to news accounts and biographical
information, Sen. Byrd was a "Kleagle" -- an official recruiter who
signed up members for $10 a head. He said he joined because it "offered
excitement" and because the Klan was an "effective force" in "promoting
traditional American values." Nothing like the thrill of gathering
'round a midnight bonfire, roasting s'mores, tying nooses, and promoting
white supremacy with a bunch of your hooded friends.
The ex-Klansman allegedly ended his ties with the group in 1943. He may
have stopped paying dues, but he continued to pay homage to the KKK.
Republicans in West Virginia discovered a letter Sen. Byrd had written
to the Imperial Wizard of the KKK three years after he says he abandoned
the group. He wrote: "The Klan is needed today as never before and I am
anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia" and "in every state in
the Union."
The ex-Klansman later filibustered the landmark 1964 Civil Rights Act --
supported by a majority of those "mean-spirited" Republicans -- for more
than 14 hours. He also opposed the nominations of the Supreme Court's
two black justices, liberal Thurgood Marshall and conservative Clarence
Thomas. In fact, the ex-Klansman had the gall to accuse Justice Thomas
of "injecting racism" into the Senate hearings. Meanwhile, author Graham
Smith recently discovered another letter Sen. Byrd wrote after he quit
the KKK, this time attacking desegregation of the armed forces.
The ex-Klansman vowed never to fight "with a Negro by my side. Rather I
should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt
never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become
degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the
wilds."
If this ex-Klansman were a conservative Republican, he would never hear
the end of his sordid past. "Ex-Klansman who opposed civil rights and
black justices" would appear in every reference to Sen. Byrd. And even
the "ex-" would be in doubt. Maxine Waters and Ralph Neas and Julianne
Malveaux and Al Sharpton and all the other left-wing bloodhounds who
sniff racism in every crevice of American life would be barking up a
storm over Sen. Byrd's latest fulminations. Instead, the attack dogs are
busy decrying latent racial bigotry where it doesn't exist, while the
real thing roams wild and free in their own political backyard.
"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.
This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost
Sometimes there is too much greed on the labor side, sometimes too much
greed on the corporate side. There needs to be balance. The first time the
union had a vote at our plant since I started, the company gave us a list of
reasons for us to vote "NO". Two weeks after we voted NO, the company took
most of those benefits away, I lost most of the benefits I was told I would
get before I ever got off of probation. I voted NO and the company punished
me for it, I won't do it again. If that was isolated, it wouldn't be such a
big deal, but the company kept taking more and more every year.
So if you consider that me wanting balance between labor greed and corporate
greed makes me a hypocrite, then it seems you have a wacky definition of
hypocrite. When the company uses a list of benefits as a reason to vote
"NO" and takes away most of the list after you vote "NO", they have taught
me a lesson, they punish for voting "NO". Within a couple of years from
then they cut our hourly wages 10% and took ~13% from benefits, and they
created many new salary jobs that didn't exist before.
I have a lot of reasons for my position, the pendulum swings both ways, you
call it hypocrisy, that's your problem. TMT mentality argument "You want a
band-aid on your sore finger but don't want one on the rest of your fingers,
you're a hypocrite."
RogerN
I live in Illinois coal mine country. My friend that works in a union mine
was telling about the union wanting them to go to a non-union mine and beat
up their laborers. The union had the money ready to bail them all out of
jail. Think it's over the top nuts look up the Galatia mine in Galatia
Illinois, I think they had the national guard there at one point.
RogerN
>
>
>"Cliff" <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
>news:cimls5p8v8vv1lqeu...@4ax.com...
>>
>> http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2010/04/17/the-right-wing-is-trawling-for-assassins
>Still jacking off nightly to assassination conspiracy theories, eh?
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2004/08/coincidence-theorists-guide-to-911.html
"Too much for coincidence?"
You must be a teabagger.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teabagger
--
Cliff
"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 22:45:29 -0500, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Nearly all of the racists are in the Republican Party now. The Northern
>>> Republicans who spearheaded the CRA through Congress, such as my old
>>> hero
>>> Ev Dirksen, would now be driven out of the Republican Party as "RINOs."
>>>
>>> You know it and Gunner knows it.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ed Huntress
>
>
> Say Ed...hows ol Robert Bryd doing these days? Oldest and most beloved
> of the Democrat Congressmen?
Repented and awaiting his place in Heaven. He admitted and apologized for
his mistakes. Is it your place to judge?
>
> You remember him dontcha? He was the Grand Kleagle of the KKK for a
> very long time.
>
> He still around?
>
> Laugh laugh laugh
>
>
> Gumby
"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Sucks to be Dixiecrat, doesnt it?
>
> Gumby
>
"Cliff" <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
news:sihos51umudmomcku...@4ax.com...
And YOU must be a LIEbrawl asshole. No surprise there.
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teabagger
> --
> Cliff
Just to reiterate, Fuck you and your socialist government. Go toss
the Queens' salad, and toss Prince Charles' salad while you are at the
palace.
Just to reiterate, Fuck you and your socialist government. Go toss
What I am hearing are excuses from you.
One lives their life according to their moral compass.
Conveniently checking your ethics at the door when it comes to
accepting money is what Judas did.
TMT
LOL..no actually it sucks to be a Republican...and you in particular.
How the repaying of your creditors going?
TMT
Steve
>
>
>"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:c1mns55khh4hni6fh...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 22:45:29 -0500, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> Nearly all of the racists are in the Republican Party now. The Northern
>>>> Republicans who spearheaded the CRA through Congress, such as my old
>>>> hero
>>>> Ev Dirksen, would now be driven out of the Republican Party as "RINOs."
>>>>
>>>> You know it and Gunner knows it.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ed Huntress
>>
>>
>> Say Ed...hows ol Robert Bryd doing these days? Oldest and most beloved
>> of the Democrat Congressmen?
>
>Repented and awaiting his place in Heaven. He admitted and apologized for
>his mistakes. Is it your place to judge?
>
Oh now here is a switch....a hard core Leftwinger suddenly spouting
about Heaven and apologies and "is it your place to judge"
ROFLMAO!!!
LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH!!
Saved for use in the future!!!
Laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh!!
Gunner
Indeed...oh indeed!
<VBG>
Gunner
"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.
This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost
That was 30 years ago Roger. What's next, the Herrin massacre.
Paul K. Dickman
Odd..the SEIU recently beat the shit out of a black Tea Party member
So you are claming that Unions dont still use thug tactics?
Is that your claim?
Want cites? <VBG>
Id be happy to spend 5 minutes and make you read a bunch of stuff about
Union thugs that is less than 5 yrs old.
Gunner
Well, that would make sense, too. OK, let's set the bar real low and
see what happens.
If it was law that Congress had to READ bills, they would repeal that
law...after not reading it. Pelosi would tell them they had to pass it to
find out what was in it...again...still.
That was Elston McGowan, a Baptist minister, and his cronies. So you're
saying that Baptist ministers are thugs?
--
Ed Huntress
And if you actually read them, who knows what you'd say next?
Face it, Tawwwwwm: You're just so much hot air in a bag.
--
Ed Huntress
Wrong side of the bed again?
Too funny! Maybe Tina Fey should parody that.
Only then will Democrats know that Pelosi actually said it.
>Nearly all of the racists are in the Republican Party now. The Northern
>Republicans who spearheaded the CRA through Congress, such as my old hero Ev
>Dirksen, would now be driven out of the Republican Party as "RINOs."
>
>You know it and Gunner knows it.
That's complete an utter nonsense. I know of no racists in the
Republican party, and if I did know of any I would be the first to
call them a RINO and call for their removal. I don't doubt that there
may be racists in both parties (e.g. Robert Byrd and Harry Reid), but
if there were any Republicans espousing racist views they would be
drummed out very quickly. Not so for the Democrat party, the racist
rhetoric from members like Robert Byrd and Harry Ried is simply
explained away as a "misunderstanding" without so much as a whiff of
outrage from the leftist media.
Ayup.
Most conservative people would call that a "double-standard," and most
liberals wouldn't have any idea what you are talking about.
Very very well said!
As Ive mentioned before..the KKK has a 140 yr history with the
Democratic Party.
Gunner
>Ed Huntress wrote:
Particularly since Dr. Martin Luther King was a Republican..and was
killed by a Democrat.
Pity that the Left refuses to respond to THAT factoid, eh?
I claim I have reasons, you claim I have excuses, you also claim 16 X 7 =
80, so I don't think your claim counts.
RogerN
Well, it counts in Catholic schools. It counts as wrong.
> RogerN
*************************
At least Tina Fey reads. Liberuls read too...but only Kosy, Huffy-Posty and
Move-On-Back. How can liberuls kill babies and coddle terrorists? Oh,
that's right...they're evil IDIOTS!
Ev Dirksen, for a variety of reasons, wouldn't have a chance in a Republican
primary today.
If you know of no racists among Republicans, you're living a sheltered life.
Most overt racists are Southern conservatives; most of them are Republicans.
Most Republicans are not racists, but most racists are Republicans. Most
Southerners are not racists, but most racists are Southerners. If you
question either point, you're living in a very strange state of denial:
Racism is a difficult thing to measure in polls today, but there are
methods:
http://reach.ucf.edu/~pos6174a/Kuklinski,%20Cobb%20and%20Gilens.pdf
> I don't doubt that there
> may be racists in both parties (e.g. Robert Byrd and Harry Reid), but
> if there were any Republicans espousing racist views they would be
> drummed out very quickly.
Senseless equivocation. Southern conservatives are the source of most overt
racism and most conservatives, today, are Republicans:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/124958/Conservatives-Finish-2009-No-1-Ideological-Group.aspx
> Not so for the Democrat party, the racist
> rhetoric from members like Robert Byrd and Harry Ried is simply
> explained away as a "misunderstanding" without so much as a whiff of
> outrage from the leftist media.
You and Gunner drag out those two antiques as if they represent the
Democratic Party. Gunner is a jackass who misrepresents almost everything.
He knows that Byrd was a Democrat from before the time there was a Southern
Strategy, and he survived it without changing parties, because he's one of
the best pork-wrestlers in the Senate. Gunner knows this but he prefers to
perpetuate bullshit -- that's what Gunner does, which is probably why he
lives in a trailer and owes more than he'll ever make in unpaid hospital
bills.
What's your excuse?
Byrd is nearly dead. Maybe he will be by the time I'm through typing here.
Reid is being attacked because he used the word "negro." Here's the news:
I'm over 60, like ol' Harry, and when I was growing up, "negro" was the only
non-pejorative term for black people. "Black" was a filthy insult.
"African-American" would have made people's jaws hang down in wonder. <g>
Sometimes us old guys revert to the habits we grew up with. That's all that
Harry did.
So, which state of denial are you living in?
FWIW, I'm a registered Republican, and have been for decades. But I'm part
of the party wing that's being shoved out. Think of us as the Anti-Asshole
wing. We're no longer acceptable. You need some kind of asshole credentials
to be acceptable in the Republican Party today.
--
Ed Huntress
That's not the point, Roger. Union thugs and corporate thugs have been at it
for over 100 years. Miner's unions have some pretty serious issues, as we've
seen over the past few weeks, and they play rough.
The point is that you claimed that they engage in thuggery against other
workers "for wanting to feed their families." That's a crock, and a
juvenile thing to say.
If you're willing to twist things that way, then you're willing to twist
anything. I'll wait until you regain your senses.
--
Ed Huntress
An overload of dishonest and ignorant remarks by people who should know
better. It's time to either strike back or leave.
--
Ed Huntress
I don't know about the "Left," but I'll respond to it.
Republicans in the South were liberals. 85% of southern blacks were
Republicans as recently as 1960. They opposed conservative Democrats.
Now the conservatives are mostly Republicans, which makes your factoid
stupid, misleading, and exactly what we've come to expect from you.
--
Ed Huntress
>
>
>"Cliff" <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
>news:sihos51umudmomcku...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 10:34:02 GMT, "Sharx35" <sha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Cliff" <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
>>>news:cimls5p8v8vv1lqeu...@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>> http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2010/04/17/the-right-wing-is-trawling-for-assassins
>> http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2004/08/coincidence-theorists-guide-to-911.html
>>
>> "Too much for coincidence?"
>>
>> You must be a teabagger.
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1968042,00.html
"Study: Are Liberals Smarter Than Conservatives?"
[
The notion that liberals are smarter than conservatives is familiar to anyone
who has spent time on a college campus. The College Democrats are said to be
ugly, smug and intellectual; the College Republicans, pretty, belligerent and
dumb. There's enough truth in both stereotypes that the vast majority of college
students opt not to join either club.
But are liberals actually smarter? A libertarian (and, as such, nonpartisan)
researcher, Satoshi Kanazawa of the London School of Economics and Political
Science, has just written a paper that is set to be published in March by the
journal Social Psychology Quarterly. The paper investigates not only whether
conservatives are dumber than liberals but also why that might be so.
...
The short answer: Kanazawa's paper shows that more-intelligent people are more
likely to say they are liberal. They are also less likely to say they go to
religious services. These aren't entirely new findings; last year, for example,
a British team found that kids with higher intelligence scores were more likely
to grow into adults who vote for Liberal Democrats, even after the researchers
controlled for socioeconomics. What's new in Kanazawa's paper is a provocative
theory about why intelligence might correlate with liberalism. He argues that
smarter people are more willing to espouse "evolutionarily novel" values — that
is, values that did not exist in our ancestral environment, including weird
ideas about, say, helping genetically unrelated strangers (liberalism, as
Kanazawa defines it), which never would have occurred to us back when we had to
hunt to feed our own clan and our only real technology was fire.
....
]
Probably something else many wingers have problems with: fire.
Like the wheel, money, truth, reason, logic, education, ...
It's just so easy to lie, steal & murder. Why bother with much of
anything else, right?
>And YOU must be a LIEbrawl asshole. No surprise there.
Find those "WMDs" yet?
>
>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teabagger
>> --
>> Cliff
http://knicksfanatics.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/gullibles-travels.jpg
"Gullible's Travels"
He's not back yet .... poor dumb winger probably got
lost yet again ....
--
Cliff
>Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>> On Apr 18, 11:23 pm, "Ed Huntress" <huntre...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>> "Gunner Asch" <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
>>>> Laugh laugh laugh
>>> 'Someone tickling you there, Gunner? Or are you just spreading the joy that
>>> comes from 40 years of sniffing vapors from your lead-casting pot?
>>
>> These days Gunner is sticking his head in the lead-casting pot.
>>
>> It's not helping.
>
>He lives "smack dab in the middle of the oil fields, where we get water,
>fuel, electricity etc etc."
>You think Taft has great quality groundwater? I'll bet the whole town is
>retarded.
Actuallly...the ground water is pretty good here. 350-500 feet down.
After all..the people who live here have sense enough to be
conservative, unlike you clorine/florided brain damaged poor bastards
who are mentally ill..and therefore..Leftwingers.
So it may be that you are a bit jealous of our good health, versus your
declining mental states.
Gunner
"edspyhill01" <edspy...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Apr 19, 9:25 am, "Sharx35" <shar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "Cliff" <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
>>
>> news:sihos51umudmomcku...@4ax.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 10:34:02 GMT, "Sharx35" <shar...@hotmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >>"Cliff" <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
>> >>news:cimls5p8v8vv1lqeu...@4ax.com...
>>
>> >>>http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2010/04/17/the-right-w...
>> >http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2004/08/coincidence-theorists-g...
>>
>> > "Too much for coincidence?"
>>
>> > You must be a teabagger.
>>
>> And YOU must be a LIEbrawl asshole. No surprise there.
>>
>> > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teabagger
>> > --
>> > Cliff
>
> Just to reiterate, Fuck you and your socialist government. Go toss
> the Queens' salad, and toss Prince Charles' salad while you are at the
> palace.
Ed, you should never have changed doctors.....
It's just a matter of perspective, Ed.
> --
> Ed Huntress- Hide quoted text -
>Should I be offended?
Naw. I just want to make sure you know I'm not pussyfooting. 'Just being
honest. d8-)
> > > I mean, why else would they have to be "careful"? Or what kind of
> > > "violence"
> > > did you have in mind?
> > >Oh, I see. You were just putting words in barnes mouth.
>
> > Barnes is pussfooting like a lawyer, alluding to "violence" and "the
> > game,"
> >The original poster cited the media's claim that the right is trawling
> >for assassins.
>
> I didn't read the OP's post. I just saw Fred's.
>So you came in in the middle, and you're uninformed.
It doesn't matter what else was said. Fred's words speak for themselves.
> >What more do you need? Should be good for a conviction, right?
>
> Veiling threats is a sign of bad character. Period.
>
> > and couching a threat in "being careful or..." Or what? Violence,
> > apparently. But I'm only asking the question.
> >Of course you are.
>
> I'll await his answer.
>Why would he answer a bully?
What bully? Who's threatening Fred?
> > I'm just helping him out. He needs a little spine to say openly what
> > he's
> > couching in barely deniable terms. He's like Gunner and his Sons of
> > Timothy
> > McVeigh. We'll see if he has the honesty and courage to answer directly
> > and
> > forthrightly.
> >Why? The media has already told you all you need to know. See the
> >original posting.
>
> I'm not interested. The thing that caught my eye was the veiled threats.
>You should meet Steve Robberson.
> > > Another threat from the right, eh? That's why you're considered by
> > > decent
> > > people to be such sleazes, like schoolyard bullies who never grew up.
> >You've dicked-up the attributions
>
> Not at all.
>You must not see your postings the way I see them.
'Can't help you there, Hammy. My words speak for themselves, too -- like
Fred's.
> The right is made up mostly of sleazy cowards and bullies.
> That's why we hear threats of "violence" if liberals aren't "careful" in
> what they say. That's a bully who's threatening violence over words.
> That's
> a dirtbag. We see several of their defenders here.
>So people shouldn't watch what they say, and there never are
>consequences to actions, even if they are just words?
It goes like this: Threatening people with violence over words, even if the
threats are veiled, is a sleazy, bullying thing to do. It's low-class; a
white-trash; bumpkinish way to react.
Fred is frustrated with the words. That's no excuse for making threats of
violence. Even if he would say that *he* wouldn't get violent, the best that
can be said for his remarks is that he's acknowledging that "conservatives,"
which is the word I think he used, are likely to be white-trash bumpkins who
would be likely to react with violence.
When you look at the extremes -- the self-styled "militias" and other goons
of the right-wing -- it's likely that he's right. They do tend to be
self-selected from the dregs of society. But the words, and the veiled
threat, were his.
There's no defense for that kind of threat, despite your attempts to turn
black into white. It won't fly, and defending such remarks is itself a
reprehensible thing.
Take offense if you want, or not.
<snip Energizer Bunny spin job, in which Hammy attempts to make a soufflé
out of crap>
--
Ed Huntress
You can stretch that point to absurdity, and you still wind up with a bunch
of phonies on one side, like Tawwwwm, Gunner, et al., and people who
actually have done the work to understand what they're talking about.
Even better, to know when they don't know, and who don't make claims they
can't back up.
--
Ed Huntress
Many people work to feed their families. In some areas Union jobs pay 3X or
more the wages of other workers in the area. In many jobs the person that
bolts part A to part B makes more money than the person that designed the
machine that makes part A and B. So, when the person with a HS education
that makes more than the person with the college degree strikes because he's
underpaid, and someone wanting to feed their family fills their position,
his life is in danger. The greed swings both ways. But those who are so
greedy are 98% of the time Democraps.
RogerN
It is remarkable and ironic how similar the right-wing veiled threats are to
the jihadist veiled threats (especially when you read the Fox version)
People should understand that if they are just "passing on a threat" (e.g.
"I won't hurt you, but people I know might") and they do not inform law
enforcement of the source of the terrorist threat then they a party to the
felony (in most cases).
Isnt it fascinating that leftwingers are suddenly discovering that their
efforts for the past 50 yrs to destroy the Constitution and institute a
socialist/marxist/fascist form of government has gotten the People
really really pissed off, which coupled to the Democrat caused Great
Depression 2, has caused the People to think seriously about simply
murdering the Leftwingers, and bulldozing their bodies into the nearest
quickly dozed deep ditch?
Frankly..if I were a Leftwinger..Id be scared shitless..or looking for
another nation to move to. Perhaps Cuba or someplace in South America.
Before the People rise up and murder "us leftwingers"
As for your claim...even the most open minded scholor understands that
the fine border between tolerance, and mass murder has just about been
crossed by the Left in the United States. Within 2 yrs..it will be.
That is not a threat of course...its simply an observation.
Hey..I could be wrong. With luck..it will be very accurate.
Gunner
Gee, Roger, just when I think you've plumbed the depths of Hallucinogenic
Scapegoating, you give me another surprise. d8-)
--
Ed Huntress