A test for young people
Stormin Mormon
Ask people you know who are under 25, you'll be amazed at
the
answers!
1. What is a record player?
2. What is a dial telephone?
3. Who were the Beatles?
4. What is an 8-track tape player?
5. How many major wars occured in the 20th century?
6. What is inflation?
7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?
8. What was the draft?
9. How were things done before computers?
10. How did people send a letter before e-mail?
mattathayde
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
> 6. What is inflation?
im 20
1- something that played records, its analogue and the sound is
transferred from
the record grooves via needle
2-dial phone, you mean a rotary phone? before the tone system was
developed it
used clicks to relay the numbers to the system by turning the dial to the
number
3-one of the biggest musical groups, basically brought "rock and roll" to
the us
4-8 track, predecessor to the cassette tape which had 8 "Tracks" of
information
on them
5- wwi wwii, Korea, nam was a conflict technically not a war, gulf "war"
also a
conflict, and if you want to try and count the cold war you can go a head
there
too
6- inflation, money loses value, come on now that is something a 10 year
old
should understand
7- cheapest gas for sure was 70 cents that i specifically remember but
that was
when i was about 10 so i know i saw gas cheaper than that when i was little
8- the draft was when people were forced to serve in the military
9- before computers, by hand/eye type writer for typing
10- the same way people still send letters, USPS
-matt
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Jim Wilkins
<cayoung61**spambloc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Ask people you know who are under 25, you'll be amazed at
> the
> answers!
>
> 1. What is a record player?
>
> 2. What is a dial telephone?
On party lines?
>
> 3. Who were the Beatles?
>
> 4. What is an 8-track tape player?
>
> 5. How many major wars occured in the 20th century?
>
> 6. What is inflation?
How much was the most expensive Titanic ticket, corrected for
inflation?
My father and I compared how long we had to work to buy a shirt or
loaf of bread, him in the 1920's and me in the 1970's. They were
almost equal.
>
> 7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?
>
> 8. What was the draft?
>
> 9. How were things done before computers?
>
> 10. How did people send a letter before e-mail?
A Biro?
jsw
Steve W.
> Ask people you know who are under 25, you'll be amazed at
> the
> answers!
>
> 1. What is a record player?
>
> 2. What is a dial telephone?
One you can use as soap.
>
> 3. Who were the Beatles?
Cousins to the cockroaches.
>
> 4. What is an 8-track tape player?
This depends - There are 8 track cartridge players AND 8 track recorders
used for recording musicians.
>
> 5. How many major wars occured in the 20th century?
Depends on whose definitions of "major war" you use.
There have been at least 145 conflicts with death totals over 20,000
persons.
>
> 6. What is inflation?
What happens if you get breast implants.
>
> 7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?
All you can eat Tacos at Golden Corral- $5.00
>
> 8. What was the draft?
What happens when someone doesn't close the door...
>
> 9. How were things done before computers?
Depends on what room you are in at the time!!!
>
> 10. How did people send a letter before e-mail?
Morse Code
>
>
>
>
How many did I get right....
--
Steve W.
cavelamb
>
> 1- something that played records, its analogue and the sound is
> transferred from
> the record grooves via needle
Needles are dangerous and evidence of drug use. Report it to DEA!
>
> 2-dial phone, you mean a rotary phone? before the tone system was
> developed it
> used clicks to relay the numbers to the system by turning the dial to the
> number
Numbers running is illegal. Call the cops!
>
> 3-one of the biggest musical groups, basically brought "rock and roll" to
> the us
Rock and Roll is the devil's music. Call a Priest!
> 4-8 track, predecessor to the cassette tape which had 8 "Tracks" of
> information
> on them
Tracks are evidence of drug use. See #1
> 5- wwi wwii, Korea, nam was a conflict technically not a war, gulf "war"
> also a
> conflict, and if you want to try and count the cold war you can go a head
> there
> too
Killing yellow and brown people is morally wrong.
But rich people like it...
> 6- inflation, money loses value, come on now that is something a 10 year
> old
> should understand
Is it on YouTube yet?
> 7- cheapest gas for sure was 70 cents that i specifically remember but
> that was
> when i was about 10 so i know i saw gas cheaper than that when i was little
$10 a gallon gas would reduce wasteful driving by rich people.
> 8- the draft was when people were forced to serve in the military
Slavery - pure and simple. And see #5.
> 9- before computers, by hand/eye type writer for typing
What are you talking about? Computers have always been here!
> 10- the same way people still send letters, USPS
Letter? You mean like Texting?
> -matt
>
>
Buerste
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I don't know ANY of these.
Stormin Mormon
Please lose the web interface, and figure out how to
post to usenet.
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im 20
Stormin Mormon
all this essential information.
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If you can remember, ask your SomesHeimers doctor about risperidone or
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Mark Rand
>
>I don't know ANY of these.
After your time? (darned new-fangled rubbish :)
Mark Rand
RTFM
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"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
My daughter is a therapist for handicapped children. She brought in her
Fisher-Price record player one time. Little boy help up the record and
stated "This is the biggest CD, I ever saw.". :>)
mattathayde
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Steve Ackman wrote:
> In <9d55c$4b61d28e$43de0cc0$31...@news.flashnewsgroups.com>, on
> Thu, 28
> Jan 2010 18:08:14 +0000, mattathayde, matt_at_ath...@foo.com
> wrote:
>> mattathayde had written this in response to
>>
>> http://rittercnc.com/metalworking/A-test-for-young-people-221770-.htm :
>>
>>
>> im 20
> You know the answers to all the fabricated questions,
> but you don't know what Usenet is. Tsk.
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you mean the horribly outdated system that is used here, where there is no
central server or administration so there is no way to regulate the bs
right
wing propaganda that is spewed out here along with the random spam. the
system
that was replaced 20 years ago by BBS, which has since been replaced by
forums
that are actually useable and keep things in an order so that you can
actually
keep up with a thread?
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Joe
(mattathayde) wrote:
>mattathayde had written this in response to
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>Stormin Mormon wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>> Ask people you know who are under 25, you'll be amazed at
>> the answers!
>
>im 20
>
>3-one of the biggest musical groups, basically brought "rock and roll" to
>the us
Aw, come on. Rock & Roll was created in the US. The Beatles were the
most popular of the British groups that revived R&R here after the
decline of same at the end of the 50s - Buddy Holly, Eddie Cochran
dead, Jerry Lee & Chuck Berry in scandals, Little Richard in one of
his religious phases, Elvis in the army (or, later, recording pap).
The early 60s was a dismal time for R&R in the USA.
The Beatles also were largely responsible for spreading the idea of
pushing the boundaries of what constituted rock music, although there
were others, independant of the Beatles, who also participated in the
"progressive rock" movement. (One of my passions.)
>
>4-8 track, predecessor to the cassette tape which had 8 "Tracks" of
>information
>on them
Wrong - it was a device that distributed lots of shiny streamers along
highways throughout the US. Also known as a POS.
>8- the draft was when people were forced to serve in the military
I thought the draft was a way to increase the population of Canada.
>
>-matt
>
Pretty good knowledge for a young punk... <g>
Joe
Lewis Hartswick
> you mean the horribly outdated system that is used here, where there is no
> central server or administration so there is no way to regulate the bs
> right
> wing propaganda that is spewed out here along with the random spam. the
> system
> that was replaced 20 years ago by BBS, which has since been replaced by
> forums
> that are actually useable and keep things in an order so that you can
> actually
> keep up with a thread?
>
> -matt
If you don't like it here, GO AWAY!
...lew...
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Michael A. Terrell
mattathayde wrote:
>
> mattathayde had written this in response to
> http://rittercnc.com/metalworking/Re-A-test-for-young-people-221829-.htm :
>
> -------------------------------------
> Steve Ackman wrote:
>
> > In <9d55c$4b61d28e$43de0cc0$31...@news.flashnewsgroups.com>, on
> > Thu, 28
> > Jan 2010 18:08:14 +0000, mattathayde, matt_at_ath...@foo.com
> > wrote:
> >> mattathayde had written this in response to
> >>
> >> http://rittercnc.com/metalworking/A-test-for-young-people-221770-.htm :
> >>
> >>
> >> im 20
>
> > You know the answers to all the fabricated questions,
> > but you don't know what Usenet is. Tsk.
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Giganews has 597,036 news:rec.crafts.metalworking messages right
now, going back to 2003.
> you mean the horribly outdated system that is used here, where there is no
> central server or administration so there is no way to regulate the bs
> right
> wing propaganda that is spewed out here along with the random spam. the
> system
> that was replaced 20 years ago by BBS, which has since been replaced by
> forums
This isn't a 'fourm', dumbass. You are using a half assed web based
portal to access USENET. http://www.rittercnc.com/ is lying to you, like
a lot of other specail interest portals do. They pick only the
newsgroups they want you to access, then pretend they own them.
For instance, Giganews has over 109,000 different newsgroups while
'Ritter' has only four.
In case you are too stupid to notice, there is still "no central
server or administration so there is no way to regulate the bs right
wing propaganda that is spewed out here along with the random spam."
The messages are propogated all over the world to thousands of news
servers.
> that are actually useable and keep things in an order so that you can
> actually
> keep up with a thread?
Any decent newsreader does proper threading. I've used Netscape's
software for at least 12 years.
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Northe
>
> 7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?
>
The cheapest that I ever paid was $0.29 9/10. I'm not sure whether there
was a gas war going on at the time or not.
Northe
Ignoramus7752
94 cents a gallon around 1995
Ed Huntress
"Ignoramus7752" <ignora...@NOSPAM.7752.invalid> wrote in message
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$0.259 Dec., 1968, Grand Ledge, MI. Yes, there was a gas war. And my tank
(MG Midget) held 7.2 gallons US. I paid by credit card. <g>
--
Ed Huntress
Winston
$0.259 October 1971. San Jose, CA. Discount gas station.
That was a pretty typical price for rotgut regular.
Worked great!
--Winston
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Artemus
"Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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>
> $0.259 Dec., 1968, Grand Ledge, MI. Yes, there was a gas war. And my tank
> (MG Midget) held 7.2 gallons US. I paid by credit card. <g>
>
$0.189 1969, Tucson, AZ during a gas war. I also had a MG Midget, a '62
Roadster, with the same tank capacity and I filled it up for under a buck!
The little 948cc engine in that peanut chassis gave me over 30mpg. I probably
could have gotten much better if I didn't drive it like it had a 1 bit digital
(on & off) gas pedal.
Art
Steve B
"Northe" <nosb...@cox.net> wrote in message
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About $0.229 in Las Vegas in the early sixties.
Steve
Ed Huntress
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I had a 1275cc (1967) and got better mileage than that. The main reason was
that I swapped out the standard 4.22 rear end for the optional 3.727. Then I
had another one for hillclimbs -- maybe 5.11? I forget.
Anyway, I could do 75 on the highway without overrevving, with the 3.727,
and I got about 34 mpg at 65.
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Artemus
>
>
> I had a 1275cc (1967) and got better mileage than that. The main reason was
> that I swapped out the standard 4.22 rear end for the optional 3.727. Then I
> had another one for hillclimbs -- maybe 5.11? I forget.
>
> Anyway, I could do 75 on the highway without overrevving, with the 3.727,
> and I got about 34 mpg at 65.
>
I don't know what rear end was in mine. Did you have the deluxe model with
a gas gauge, roll up windows, and an outside door handle? Mine was pretty
much the base ragtop with no extras. I still have the old title and it shows a
list price of $1395. I bought it used in Jun '67 for $250.
Art
Ed Huntress
Yeah, I had the Mk III, same as the Mk IV AH Sprite, and which was the last
one with an MG engine (they switched to the 1300cc Triumph Spitfire engine
after that). It had roll-up windows, a real folding top, and a door handle.
I also had the knock-off wheels. The price I paid new, which was a lot lower
than list, was $2365 in '67.
I raced it in low-key SCCA club racing and hillclimbed it at Traverse City,
MI, and Giant's Despair, PA. I also raced it on the ice at Rose Lake, MI.
And I drove it back and forth between NJ and MI for a few years when I was
in college.
I think I had more fun with it than any other car I've owned. And it was
very reliable. One morning when it was 15 below, near Boyne Highlands, MI,
it was the only car in the lot that would start (I had a Sears DieHard
battery in it that was wider, and almost as long, as the engine. <g>) It was
funny to jump-start Cadillacs and pickup trucks all morning. d8-)
--
Ed Huntress
Martin H. Eastburn
in 57. I was young and was buying gas in a gallon can for the
mix oil & gas 2-cycle mower! OTH that 4 cycles came out!
I handed the guy at the Chevron station a dollar bill and got
back a bunch of change. Mom, who sent me, was surprised and we
notified Dad to buy a tank asap.
Martin
Larry Jaques
<Win...@bigbrother.net> scrawled the following:
>On 1/29/2010 11:50 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
>> "Ignoramus7752"<ignora...@NOSPAM.7752.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:oZ-dnccQO44hq_7W...@giganews.com...
>>> On 2010-01-29, Northe<nosb...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The cheapest that I ever paid was $0.29 9/10. I'm not sure whether there
>>>> was a gas war going on at the time or not.
>>>
>>> 94 cents a gallon around 1995
>>
>> $0.259 Dec., 1968, Grand Ledge, MI. Yes, there was a gas war. And my tank
>> (MG Midget) held 7.2 gallons US. I paid by credit card.<g>
>
>$0.259 October 1971. San Jose, CA. Discount gas station.
>That was a pretty typical price for rotgut regular.
>Worked great!
My first home away from home was Phoenix in '71. I filled up my '68
Ford Ranch Wagon there at $0.213 per gallon. The wagon worked well
with my suitcoat for the, get this, drive-thru liquor stores.
Gerald Miller
<lion...@consolidated.net> wrote:
>I have paid 1 cent - or $.01 per gallon in a gas war back
>in 57. I was young and was buying gas in a gallon can for the
>mix oil & gas 2-cycle mower! OTH that 4 cycles came out!
>I handed the guy at the Chevron station a dollar bill and got
>back a bunch of change. Mom, who sent me, was surprised and we
>notified Dad to buy a tank asap.
>
>Martin
There was a war like that in the late '80s northwest of Toronto. The
lowest I ever paid was $0.299 at the Anglo station on Hwy.#28 just
north of Peterbrough in 1958. Those were the days when we could cash
in the pop bottles in the back seat and get enough gas to cruise on
Saturday night.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada
Winston
just find one of those 1971 dollars.
--Winston
azotic
"Winston" <Win...@bigbrother.net> wrote in message
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>I could buy a gallon of gas *today* for only 56c if I could
> just find one of those 1971 dollars.
>
> --Winston
Fortunatley gas is not included when calculating inflation so
your 1971 dollar is still worth a dollar according to the government.
Best Regards
Tom.
Wes
>On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:06:13 -0600, "Martin H. Eastburn"
><lion...@consolidated.net> wrote:
>
>>I have paid 1 cent - or $.01 per gallon in a gas war back
>>in 57. I was young and was buying gas in a gallon can for the
>>mix oil & gas 2-cycle mower! OTH that 4 cycles came out!
>>I handed the guy at the Chevron station a dollar bill and got
>>back a bunch of change. Mom, who sent me, was surprised and we
>>notified Dad to buy a tank asap.
It got so bad in Kokomo with the gas wars, that one station owner saw that his competitor
was selling way below his cost. The gent borrowed a tanker truck and drove over for a
fill up.
Needless to say, the competitor didn't want to sell but once the police showed up, he did.
Wes
Michael A. Terrell
Larry Jaques wrote:
>
> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:19:28 -0800, the infamous Winston
> <Win...@bigbrother.net> scrawled the following:
>
> >On 1/29/2010 11:50 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
> >> "Ignoramus7752"<ignora...@NOSPAM.7752.invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:oZ-dnccQO44hq_7W...@giganews.com...
> >>> On 2010-01-29, Northe<nosb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The cheapest that I ever paid was $0.29 9/10. I'm not sure whether there
> >>>> was a gas war going on at the time or not.
> >>>
> >>> 94 cents a gallon around 1995
> >>
> >> $0.259 Dec., 1968, Grand Ledge, MI. Yes, there was a gas war. And my tank
> >> (MG Midget) held 7.2 gallons US. I paid by credit card.<g>
> >
> >$0.259 October 1971. San Jose, CA. Discount gas station.
> >That was a pretty typical price for rotgut regular.
> >Worked great!
>
> My first home away from home was Phoenix in '71. I filled up my '68
> Ford Ranch Wagon there at $0.213 per gallon. The wagon worked well
> with my suitcoat for the, get this, drive-thru liquor stores.
18.9 cents per gallon for premium in 1973 in Daleville Alabama. It
was 12.9 cents per gallon on base without the federal & state taxes.
Michael A. Terrell
Stations are not allowed to sell below cost in Florida.
Stormin Mormon
the market? Yes, they do it all the time. But, I don't
belive I've seen it in the Constitution where they are given
the authority.
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David R.Birch
> And, what business is it, of government, to set prices for
> the market? Yes, they do it all the time. But, I don't
> belive I've seen it in the Constitution where they are given
> the authority.
They aren't setting prices, they're saying you can't let your large
operation run at a loss until the competing small operations go out of
business.
David
Ed Huntress
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Neither of those statements is correct, Tom. Actually, gas *is* included in
the basic measure of inflation (CPI-U). The figures Iggy posted last night
include gas -- which inflated by 53% last year.
Without fuel or food, inflation last year was 1.7%. With fuel and food, it
was 2.7%. But food prices actually *declined* by 2.4%. All of the difference
between the 1.7% and 2.7% was gasoline prices, which is a function of
politics and the economies of foreign governments as much as ours. That's
why some measures don't include it. It's misleading for some kinds of policy
analysis.
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.nr0.htm
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Ed Huntress
Ed Huntress
"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> And, what business is it, of government, to set prices for
> the market? Yes, they do it all the time. But, I don't
> belive I've seen it in the Constitution where they are given
> the authority.
>
> --
> Christopher A. Young
> Learn more about Jesus
> www.lds.org
Which country's constitution are you reading, Chris? <g>
What Michael is talking about is a function of Florida's constitution, not
the US Constitution. But the federal government can set intrastate prices,
and, in some cases, in-state prices. See the commerce clause (Article 1,
Section 8, clause 3).
Ed Huntress
"Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net> wrote in message news:...
>
> "Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hk1jdi$7fn$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> And, what business is it, of government, to set prices for
>> the market? Yes, they do it all the time. But, I don't
>> belive I've seen it in the Constitution where they are given
>> the authority.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher A. Young
>> Learn more about Jesus
>> www.lds.org
>
> Which country's constitution are you reading, Chris? <g>
>
> What Michael is talking about is a function of Florida's constitution, not
> the US Constitution. But the federal government can set intrastate prices,
> and, in some cases, in-state prices. See the commerce clause (Article 1,
> Section 8, clause 3).
Intra, inter -- sorry about that. I should have said "interstate" prices. In
other words, Congress can set prices between states. In some cases, they can
set prices *within* states.
--
Ed Huntress
Wes
>And, what business is it, of government, to set prices for
>the market? Yes, they do it all the time. But, I don't
>belive I've seen it in the Constitution where they are given
>the authority.
That interstate commerce clause causes a lot of mischief.
Wes
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government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller
Wes
>Without fuel or food, inflation last year was 1.7%. With fuel and food, it
>was 2.7%. But food prices actually *declined* by 2.4%.
Food prices declined? Where are you shopping? Yukon Gold potatoes used to be 2.99 for 5#
before the mid west floods one or two years ago, since then, stuck at 3.99 for 5#.
Marie Calendar, Boston Market, Hungry Man tv dinners up 10 to 20 percent in the last year.
Then there is the portion shaving Marie Calendar is doing along with a price increase.
Fuel had a huge increase a while back, wages never covered it. Somehow I didn't see it in
our core inflation numbers, I did feel it in my wallet.
Then there is wage freezes due to our current economic difficulties. Makes any increase
in inflation a bit more significant.
Michael A. Terrell
Wes wrote:
>
> "Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> >Without fuel or food, inflation last year was 1.7%. With fuel and food, it
> >was 2.7%. But food prices actually *declined* by 2.4%.
>
> Food prices declined? Where are you shopping? Yukon Gold potatoes used to be 2.99 for 5#
> before the mid west floods one or two years ago, since then, stuck at 3.99 for 5#.
>
> Marie Calendar, Boston Market, Hungry Man tv dinners up 10 to 20 percent in the last year.
>
> Then there is the portion shaving Marie Calendar is doing along with a price increase.
>
> Fuel had a huge increase a while back, wages never covered it. Somehow I didn't see it in
> our core inflation numbers, I did feel it in my wallet.
>
> Then there is wage freezes due to our current economic difficulties. Makes any increase
> in inflation a bit more significant.
A lot of food around here went up %50 over the last two years. Most
of that, in the past year.
azotic
A little sarcasim Ed, personal consumer price index diverge from the
national average.
Best Regards
Tom.
Martin H. Eastburn
They were supplying Biggs Air Force Base and the Army.
Biggs really drank it in the cold war days. The three
companies got into a over stock issue and decided to undercut.
Martin
Ed Huntress
"Wes" <clu...@lycos.com> wrote in message
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> "Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>>Without fuel or food, inflation last year was 1.7%. With fuel and food, it
>>was 2.7%. But food prices actually *declined* by 2.4%.
>
> Food prices declined? Where are you shopping? Yukon Gold potatoes used
> to be 2.99 for 5#
> before the mid west floods one or two years ago, since then, stuck at 3.99
> for 5#.
>
> Marie Calendar, Boston Market, Hungry Man tv dinners up 10 to 20 percent
> in the last year.
Before the floods? Are we talking here about THE Flood, with Noah and all
that stuff? <g>
Jeez, Wes. You're giving us anecdotes about potatoes and TV dinners in one
town in northern Michigan when we were talking about national averages.
Maybe what the country really needs is a Hungry Man Prices in Northern
Michigan Index, to guide our economy...
>
> Then there is the portion shaving Marie Calendar is doing along with a
> price increase.
So, call Marie and complain.
>
> Fuel had a huge increase a while back, wages never covered it. Somehow I
> didn't see it in
> our core inflation numbers, I did feel it in my wallet.
If you didn't see it in the CPI-U, you weren't looking. Gasoline went up
53.5% last year, nationwide. It's in the reports.
>
> Then there is wage freezes due to our current economic difficulties.
> Makes any increase
> in inflation a bit more significant.
Sure. But this is about as low as you want it to go. Any lower, and
consumption and bank deposits both dry up at the same time.
--
Ed Huntress
Ed Huntress
Indeed they do.Which means that roughly half of them are lower.
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Gerald Miller
<cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Or someone willing to work for 20c an hour?
In 1949, I decided that if I ever got a job paying $1.00 per hour, I
would be a rich man!
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada
as...@charter.net
<hunt...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>"Ignoramus7752" <ignora...@NOSPAM.7752.invalid> wrote in message
>news:oZ-dnccQO44hq_7W...@giganews.com...
>> On 2010-01-29, Northe <nosb...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?
>>>>
>>>
>>> The cheapest that I ever paid was $0.29 9/10. I'm not sure whether there
>>> was a gas war going on at the time or not.
>>
>> 94 cents a gallon around 1995
>
>$0.259 Dec., 1968, Grand Ledge, MI. Yes, there was a gas war. And my tank
>(MG Midget) held 7.2 gallons US. I paid by credit card. <g>
1965 - working at Mobil Oil field research station in Dallas. They
had a pump on site for employees that was alway $0.20 / gal. Never
got used - we could always find cheaper in town. Hamburger, gas and
grapes - nineteen cents a pound or gallon.
as...@charter.net
Where it heck did you hill climb it up here in TC? I know that it's
a lot more developed, now - but not that many good hills.
Ed Huntress
<as...@charter.net> wrote in message
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I took a look on Google and couldn't find a thing about it. Amazing. Anyway,
I called some sports car shop in the area and talked to an old guy who
remembers it, and another young one in another shop who's heard about it;
the first thinks it actually was in Empire, and the second thinks it was on
Holiday Hill Road. I just flat-out don't remember. It was not exactly a big
hill, unlike Giant's Despair.
The older guy is going to get me in touch with one of the people who drove
in it. We're talking about 1968 here. I hope the old guy can hear me OK. <g>
Wes
>I took a look on Google and couldn't find a thing about it. Amazing. Anyway,
>I called some sports car shop in the area and talked to an old guy who
>remembers it, and another young one in another shop who's heard about it;
>the first thinks it actually was in Empire, and the second thinks it was on
>Holiday Hill Road. I just flat-out don't remember. It was not exactly a big
>hill, unlike Giant's Despair.
>
Holiday Hill Road, iirc, winds up to a possibly defunct ski operation. It was the end
point for the Ice Man MTB race when I was in good enough shape to do it a number of years
ago. Entered twice, finished once. (we had snow that year!)
No comment on Empire, since I really don't recall the topology.
Wes
>> Food prices declined? Where are you shopping? Yukon Gold potatoes used
>> to be 2.99 for 5#
>> before the mid west floods one or two years ago, since then, stuck at 3.99
>> for 5#.
>>
>> Marie Calendar, Boston Market, Hungry Man tv dinners up 10 to 20 percent
>> in the last year.
>
>Before the floods? Are we talking here about THE Flood, with Noah and all
>that stuff? <g>
Nah, there were some major flooding a couple years ago that hurt the potato crop.
>
>Jeez, Wes. You're giving us anecdotes about potatoes and TV dinners in one
>town in northern Michigan when we were talking about national averages.
>
>Maybe what the country really needs is a Hungry Man Prices in Northern
>Michigan Index, to guide our economy...
Well, the Joe Six pack index would be handy. Maybe even the Joe Camel six pack index for
those that smoke ;) (I don't)
I complained about the shortage to ConAgra, they sent a free coupon for a dinner. I'll
just wait for new "larger portions" before I buy from them again.
Ed Huntress
> "Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>>> Food prices declined? Where are you shopping? Yukon Gold potatoes used
>>> to be 2.99 for 5#
>>> before the mid west floods one or two years ago, since then, stuck at
>>> 3.99
>>> for 5#.
>>>
>>> Marie Calendar, Boston Market, Hungry Man tv dinners up 10 to 20 percent
>>> in the last year.
>>
>>Before the floods? Are we talking here about THE Flood, with Noah and all
>>that stuff? <g>
>
> Nah, there were some major flooding a couple years ago that hurt the
> potato crop.
>>
>>Jeez, Wes. You're giving us anecdotes about potatoes and TV dinners in one
>>town in northern Michigan when we were talking about national averages.
>>
>>Maybe what the country really needs is a Hungry Man Prices in Northern
>>Michigan Index, to guide our economy...
BTW, Yukon Gold Potatoes are on sale for $2.99/pound at Shop Rite in Edison,
NJ. I could ship some to you. d8-)
>
> Well, the Joe Six pack index would be handy. Maybe even the Joe Camel six
> pack index for
> those that smoke ;) (I don't)
There are dozens of CPI calculations. Just pick the one you like. Here are
the basic, most popular ones. CPI-U is the one they usually quote in the
newscasts. BTW, the CPI-W (includes Urban Wage Earners and Clerical Workers)
is the one that's used to calculate COLAs for Social Security and VA
benefits. I think it runs Oct. through the following Sept. --
>
> I complained about the shortage to ConAgra, they sent a free coupon for a
> dinner. I'll
> just wait for new "larger portions" before I buy from them again.
Squeeky Wheel Syndrome. My wife is good at that.
--
Ed Huntress
Wes
>>>Maybe what the country really needs is a Hungry Man Prices in Northern
>>>Michigan Index, to guide our economy...
>
>BTW, Yukon Gold Potatoes are on sale for $2.99/pound at Shop Rite in Edison,
>NJ. I could ship some to you. d8-)
Can I get Enco free shipping? ;)
>
>>
>> Well, the Joe Six pack index would be handy. Maybe even the Joe Camel six
>> pack index for
>> those that smoke ;) (I don't)
>
>There are dozens of CPI calculations. Just pick the one you like. Here are
>the basic, most popular ones. CPI-U is the one they usually quote in the
>newscasts. BTW, the CPI-W (includes Urban Wage Earners and Clerical Workers)
>is the one that's used to calculate COLAs for Social Security and VA
>benefits. I think it runs Oct. through the following Sept. --
>
>http://www.bls.gov/CPI/
I'll give it a look in depth tomorrow. Notice a lot are urban numbers. Joe Six pack
lives out in the rural areas.
>
>>
>> I complained about the shortage to ConAgra, they sent a free coupon for a
>> dinner. I'll
>> just wait for new "larger portions" before I buy from them again.
>
>Squeeky Wheel Syndrome. My wife is good at that.
I had a drywall square that wasn't. Brother's wife took it to the store I bought it from
years ago and got a replacement. If my brother ever expands to more than a one man
operation, she is a candidate for working in Accounts Payable.
Joe
<hunt...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>"Wes" <clu...@lycos.com> wrote in message
>news:DW1an.69610$tq1....@en-nntp-03.dc1.easynews.com...
>> "Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net> wrote:
[snip]
>>
>> I complained about the shortage to ConAgra, they sent a free coupon for a
>> dinner. I'll
>> just wait for new "larger portions" before I buy from them again.
>
>Squeeky Wheel Syndrome. My wife is good at that.
Trouble is, it seems to be their only response. My wife likes a
certain brand of flavored coffee creamer; a while ago they changed the
bottle to a stupid shape that fits poorly in the fridge, with a cap
that is less than functional. Somebody's idea of an "artistic"
approach, no doubt. She complained that the packaging was making the
product tough to use, and she got a coupon for - guess what. Still a
PITA, regardless of price. But it beats having to think through to
arrive at a solution.
Joe
Ed Huntress
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Packaging can be annoying. I'm currently ranting about Costco's "cube"
one-gallon milk bottle, which apparently saves shipping cost but which
dribbles like crazy. For a month or so they put an extra lip on the inside
of the spout, which stopped the dribble. But then they dropped it again. So
I complained. They said they were "sorry." If my wife had handled it, they
would have sent her a cow. <g>
--
Ed Huntress
Steve B
"Joe" <see_re...@sig.lin> wrote in message
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I live in Mormon country. They either don't sell Amaretto creamer, or have
it in the prohibitively expensive smaller containers, but WILL NOT stock the
larger ones. Even though it is non-alcoholic, it tastes similar enough to
the liquor to break the purity of anyone who drinks it. Supposedly.
Steve
as...@charter.net
<hunt...@optonline.net> wrote:
Well, I live at just off the top of Holiday Road. It might have been
here, since all the subdivisions have been built up since then.
It was a country road back then, which is why it is crumbling terribly
with the new levels of traffic. Do you remember a ski hill? It
probably was developed after '68, but is right about where the road
levels out for a bit. Would have been like a big bowl that you didn't
want to slide off in to. Just about a mile from 5 Mile corner, which
would be a good length for a hill climb.
Hope the old guys remember - it would be neat to know since I live up
here now.
Karl
Ed Huntress
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No, I don't. I've talked to two guys over the past two days who are about my
age and who drove in the event. They both say it was actually in Empire, but
one says it was called the Traverse City Hillclimb for a few years because
it was a Traverse City club that sponsored the event.
Anyway, as one described it, it came back to me. The top of the hill ended
at a military radar station. He described the road as the "old south hill
road". He's a commercial photographer and says he has some photos of the
event that he shot in '74.
It's vague in my mind because I followed someone else there, and probably
because I was exhausted from having spent the previous day and night trying
to get the carburetor jetting right for my new Racer Brown 3/4 cam. (I never
got it right until a couple of weeks later. It was very frustrating.)
> It
> probably was developed after '68, but is right about where the road
> levels out for a bit. Would have been like a big bowl that you didn't
> want to slide off in to. Just about a mile from 5 Mile corner, which
> would be a good length for a hill climb.
>
> Hope the old guys remember - it would be neat to know since I live up
> here now.
From what they told me, it continued into the '80s, at which point the cars
got too fast and the road got too torn up. One guy in a Formula Atlantic
spun and hit a tree going backwards, and almost died. That was the last
race.
I can hardly imagine driving an FA on a public road. It's got to be
ridiculously dangerous.
--
Ed Huntress
as...@charter.net
>"Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>>I took a look on Google and couldn't find a thing about it. Amazing. Anyway,
>>I called some sports car shop in the area and talked to an old guy who
>>remembers it, and another young one in another shop who's heard about it;
>>the first thinks it actually was in Empire, and the second thinks it was on
>>Holiday Hill Road. I just flat-out don't remember. It was not exactly a big
>>hill, unlike Giant's Despair.
>>
>
>Holiday Hill Road, iirc, winds up to a possibly defunct ski operation. It was the end
>point for the Ice Man MTB race when I was in good enough shape to do it a number of years
>ago. Entered twice, finished once. (we had snow that year!)
>
Mount Holiday was down for a couple years after the owner was killed
running a tractor on the slope. A local group took it over as a
non-profit and is doing great with it again. We (in the neighborhood)
all contribute and it is great to see the kids walk by with their
snowboards and skis in the evening.
Congrats on finishing the IceMan. It finishes at Timber Ridge
(formerly Jellystone Park) now and last year was the largest in the
nation with 4400 entries (someone said there was a glitch the
included an extra 1500). I signed up two years ago, but sudden heart
problems kept me from competing. Improved intelligence keeps me from
doing so now.
I live 6 houses above the ski hill now.
Ed Huntress
> "Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>>>>Maybe what the country really needs is a Hungry Man Prices in Northern
>>>>Michigan Index, to guide our economy...
>>
>>BTW, Yukon Gold Potatoes are on sale for $2.99/pound at Shop Rite in
>>Edison,
>>NJ. I could ship some to you. d8-)
>
> Can I get Enco free shipping? ;)
Do you know the magic number?
>>
>>>
>>> Well, the Joe Six pack index would be handy. Maybe even the Joe Camel
>>> six
>>> pack index for
>>> those that smoke ;) (I don't)
>>
>>There are dozens of CPI calculations. Just pick the one you like. Here are
>>the basic, most popular ones. CPI-U is the one they usually quote in the
>>newscasts. BTW, the CPI-W (includes Urban Wage Earners and Clerical
>>Workers)
>>is the one that's used to calculate COLAs for Social Security and VA
>>benefits. I think it runs Oct. through the following Sept. --
>>
>>http://www.bls.gov/CPI/
>
> I'll give it a look in depth tomorrow. Notice a lot are urban numbers.
> Joe Six pack
> lives out in the rural areas.
It's all urban numbers. The basic CPI-U covers 87% of the US population.
Non-metropolitan, non-farm numbers track the CPI pretty well; there is no
significant, cumulative separation between those costs and urban costs.
In other words, the prices may be different, but the relationship between
them is pretty stable. So an index number that measures trends, such as CPI,
reflects the whole pattern across the country, over time. It may lag or lead
one region or another by a quarter or so but prices don't spread apart or
close up in the longer run.
Ed Huntress
> "Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>>I took a look on Google and couldn't find a thing about it. Amazing.
>>Anyway,
>>I called some sports car shop in the area and talked to an old guy who
>>remembers it, and another young one in another shop who's heard about it;
>>the first thinks it actually was in Empire, and the second thinks it was
>>on
>>Holiday Hill Road. I just flat-out don't remember. It was not exactly a
>>big
>>hill, unlike Giant's Despair.
>>
>
> Holiday Hill Road, iirc, winds up to a possibly defunct ski operation. It
> was the end
> point for the Ice Man MTB race when I was in good enough shape to do it a
> number of years
> ago. Entered twice, finished once. (we had snow that year!)
>
> No comment on Empire, since I really don't recall the topology.
>
> Wes
If you noticed my other post, the old timers say it was Empire. But there's
still something I'm not sure about: Why was it called the Traverse City
Hillclimb? I'm sure it was. One guy said it was because a Traverse City club
sponsored it in the early years. And he described the course, which sounds
vaguely familiar -- although still vague. These guys started around 1970; I
drove in the '68 event.
I still have a source or two to check out.
--
Ed Huntress
Leon Fisk
<hunt...@optonline.net> wrote:
<big snip>
>No, I don't. I've talked to two guys over the past two days who are about my
>age and who drove in the event. They both say it was actually in Empire, but
>one says it was called the Traverse City Hillclimb for a few years because
>it was a Traverse City club that sponsored the event.
WAG, maybe it was Pierce Stocking Scenic Drive? See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierce_Stocking_Scenic_Drive
--
Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
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Michael A. Terrell
Stormin Mormon wrote:
>
> And, what business is it, of government, to set prices for
> the market? Yes, they do it all the time. But, I don't
> belive I've seen it in the Constitution where they are given
> the authority.
What business is it of yours that they want to prevent big companies
from putting everyone else out of business, then gouging the customers
when there is no other choice?
Ed Huntress
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I'm going to have to get back to some of the guys in the club in Traverse
City and probe a little deeper. Some of them are older than me. <g>
But I've driven on Pierce Stocking Drive, not many years ago, when we were
vacationing in Charlevoix. My son was about 5 years old and he wanted to
tumble down the dune. I wouldn't let him.
--
Ed Huntress