FS -- 275 amp Pipeline Welder, Continental 163 engine
Ignoramus12951
not a little 200a welder. Nice external appearance. New waterpump
etc. Big leads also included.
Pintle hitch. No lights on trailer.
Price for rec.crafts.metalworking readers is less than I expect to get
elsewhere.
i
Ignoramus12951
> Works great and comes with a 4 wheeled trailer. This is a "big one",
> not a little 200a welder. Nice external appearance. New waterpump
> etc. Big leads also included.
Make it 375 amps, not 275.
Also it has both CC and CV mode.
Also, one of the wheels mounting plates (to which the wheel is bolted)
is missing a chunk. I am sure it needs to be replaced.
Also the trailer has no springs. I just drove it for 50 miles and I
know that it works, but it is a little bumpy.
i
Bill McKee
"Ignoramus12951" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.12951.invalid> wrote in message
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Funny story about gas powered, trailer welders. I borrowed my dad's one day
to work on my race car, before I owned a welder. Taking back to dad, the
tongue decided to break off. Nice thing about it, that the welder is self
powered. Cranked up the welder on the side of a street in Berkeley, CA and
rewelded the tongue. Always figured the local's would have complained about
welding without a special permit.
Ignoramus21666
>
> "Ignoramus12951" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.12951.invalid> wrote in message
> news:CsednYdfkPLOm-fW...@giganews.com...
>> On 2010-02-16, Ignoramus12951 <ignoram...@NOSPAM.12951.invalid> wrote:
>>> Works great and comes with a 4 wheeled trailer. This is a "big one",
>>> not a little 200a welder. Nice external appearance. New waterpump
>>> etc. Big leads also included.
>>
>> Make it 375 amps, not 275.
>>
>> Also it has both CC and CV mode.
>>
One more correction, the hub missing a chunk will be replaced.
>
> Funny story about gas powered, trailer welders. I borrowed my dad's one day
> to work on my race car, before I owned a welder. Taking back to dad, the
> tongue decided to break off. Nice thing about it, that the welder is self
> powered. Cranked up the welder on the side of a street in Berkeley, CA and
> rewelded the tongue. Always figured the local's would have complained about
> welding without a special permit.
Way cool. Do you know why exactly the tongue broke off, these sorts of
things are rather disconcerting.
i
JTMcC
JTMcC.
"Ignoramus12951" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.12951.invalid> wrote in message
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Ignoramus21666
> What the heck is a "375 amp pipeline welder"?
A welder to weld pipelines maybe? with 375 amps of current?
i
Jim Stewart
> Funny story about gas powered, trailer welders. I borrowed my dad's one day
> to work on my race car, before I owned a welder. Taking back to dad, the
> tongue decided to break off. Nice thing about it, that the welder is self
> powered. Cranked up the welder on the side of a street in Berkeley, CA and
> rewelded the tongue. Always figured the local's would have complained about
> welding without a special permit.
Depends on what part. Not advisable in the
hills, business as usual on San Pablo Ave.
john
A Pipeliner Welder is a brand name of Lincoln Electric used to do heavy
welding in the field, pipeline welding being one of its uses from where
they took the name.
John
JTMcC
A "pipeliner" is any of the various versions of the SA-200 from the 40's
till today.
There's really no such thing as a 375 amp pipeliner unless you're describing
a SA-200, and they will make up to and over 400 amps maxed out.
SA-200's are the only machines that are termed "pipeliners", even tho there
are a few other machines in common use in the field.
So I ask, again, what the heck is a 375 amp pipeliner?
JTMcC, Pipeline Welder
"john" <amd...@intergrafix.net> wrote in message
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Ignoramus21666
> I am a pipeliner and have been for a long time.
> A "pipeliner" is any of the various versions of the SA-200 from the 40's
> till today.
> There's really no such thing as a 375 amp pipeliner unless you're describing
> a SA-200, and they will make up to and over 400 amps maxed out.
> SA-200's are the only machines that are termed "pipeliners", even tho there
> are a few other machines in common use in the field.
> So I ask, again, what the heck is a 375 amp pipeliner?
Let me answer a question with a question.
Did I call this welder a "pipeliner"?
i
RAM�
news:p8CdnZzx0KbsvebW...@giganews.com:
> Did I call this welder a "pipeliner"?
No.
JTMcC
limited number of machines used in mainline construction, so just what
machine do you have that you consider a pipeline welder?
I'll add that a pipeline welder is a human being, who uses a welding
machine. But that's getting a little picky on real world terminology so you
slide on that one.
But I'm guessing you've never struck an arc on a pipeline.
So....what machine are you selling?????
JTMcC.
"Ignoramus21666" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.21666.invalid> wrote in message
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Ignoramus21666
> No, you called it a "pipeline welder", what do you base that on?
On the label on the control panel of the machine.
> There's a limited number of machines used in mainline construction,
> so just what machine do you have that you consider a pipeline
> welder?
Airco Scamp-C pipeline welder. I will take pictures of it, but could
not today due to darkness.
> I'll add that a pipeline welder is a human being, who uses a welding
> machine. But that's getting a little picky on real world terminology so you
> slide on that one.
I was taught that "welder" is a machine, and "weldor" is the person
who does the welding.
> But I'm guessing you've never struck an arc on a pipeline.
Good guess. I do weld here and there, but not pipelines.
> So....what machine are you selling?????
Airco SCAMP-C. Continental F-163 motor.
i
Bruce L. Bergman
<bmckee...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>"Ignoramus12951" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.12951.invalid> wrote in message
>news:CsednYdfkPLOm-fW...@giganews.com...
>> On 2010-02-16, Ignoramus12951 <ignoram...@NOSPAM.12951.invalid> wrote:
>>> Works great and comes with a 4 wheeled trailer. This is a "big one",
>>> not a little 200a welder. Nice external appearance. New waterpump
>>> etc. Big leads also included.
>>
>> Make it 375 amps, not 275.
>>
>> Also it has both CC and CV mode.
>>
>> Also, one of the wheels mounting plates (to which the wheel is bolted)
>> is missing a chunk. I am sure it needs to be replaced.
>>
>> Also the trailer has no springs. I just drove it for 50 miles and I
>> know that it works, but it is a little bumpy.
>>
>> i
>>
>>> Pintle hitch. No lights on trailer.
>>>
>>> Price for rec.crafts.metalworking readers is less than I expect to get
>>> elsewhere.
Tempting, but the road trip to Chicago wrecks the prospects. (Last
time I figured it, $2,500 for gasoline alone LA-Cleveland-LA.)
And I'd have to rebuild my flatbed single-axle trailer to get it
home, you can't take that rig on the freeway.
>Funny story about gas powered, trailer welders. I borrowed my dad's one day
>to work on my race car, before I owned a welder. Taking back to dad, the
>tongue decided to break off. Nice thing about it, that the welder is self
>powered. Cranked up the welder on the side of a street in Berkeley, CA and
>rewelded the tongue. Always figured the local's would have complained about
>welding without a special permit.
Please tell me it has safety chains between the welder chassis and
the tow vehicles that are run through rings on the drawbar...
Those 4-tire "farm trailer" style can be street towed, but no
springs means slow and easy. They are not stable if you get it moving
too fast.
Check with your state, if they are 'construction equipment' that is
not normally driven/towed on the street they don't necessarily need
plates and tags.
--<< Bruce >>--
Ignoramus21666
> Tempting, but the road trip to Chicago wrecks the prospects. (Last
> time I figured it, $2,500 for gasoline alone LA-Cleveland-LA.)
>
> And I'd have to rebuild my flatbed single-axle trailer to get it
> home, you can't take that rig on the freeway.
Yes, shipping will kill the deal.
The trailer actually tows better on the highway than on other roads,
because highways are smoother.
>>Funny story about gas powered, trailer welders. I borrowed my dad's one day
>>to work on my race car, before I owned a welder. Taking back to dad, the
>>tongue decided to break off. Nice thing about it, that the welder is self
>>powered. Cranked up the welder on the side of a street in Berkeley, CA and
>>rewelded the tongue. Always figured the local's would have complained about
>>welding without a special permit.
>
> Please tell me it has safety chains between the welder chassis and
> the tow vehicles that are run through rings on the drawbar...
>
> Those 4-tire "farm trailer" style can be street towed, but no
> springs means slow and easy. They are not stable if you get it moving
> too fast.
>
> Check with your state, if they are 'construction equipment' that is
> not normally driven/towed on the street they don't necessarily need
> plates and tags.
I believe that this is the case, this is a trailer with a small piece
of equipment (welder) bolted to it. Needs lights, yes, but no
license.
i
Martin H. Eastburn
Nothing like a 30' cattle two levels and covered trucking
through town on the old highway or parking at the store for a drink.
Not bad when empty, but when full and the summer heat is on- Oh yea!
We get some semi-trailers that seem to cover a block - some good ones
are those that haul the electric generating fan blades - They are big
and long - and are shipped edge up so as not to fly or the width is
to wide. Takes 4 lanes to make a right turn...
Martin
Bruce L. Bergman
<lion...@consolidated.net> wrote:
>You should see some of the trailers out here in Texas.
>
>Nothing like a 30' cattle two levels and covered trucking
>through town on the old highway or parking at the store for a drink.
>
>Not bad when empty, but when full and the summer heat is on- Oh yea!
I've been stuck behind Pig-Pen and his triple-deck load of Hula Girls
headed for the slaughterhouse before, that's worse than cattle or
chickens - you either speed up and go around, or pull off for gas and
lunch so he's 45 minutes ahead when you get moving again.
>We get some semi-trailers that seem to cover a block - some good ones
>are those that haul the electric generating fan blades - They are big
>and long - and are shipped edge up so as not to fly or the width is
>to wide. Takes 4 lanes to make a right turn...
That's what the Pilot Car is along for - besides scouting ahead for
low bridges and huge potholes, he's there to run interference at the
turns and block the idiots in the 4-wheelers. They see the truck
signaling for a right turn and swinging way wide to the left to clear
the curbs - then try to cut past on the inside.
Sometimes they make it, sometimes they don't, but a slick talker can
make it the trucker's fault.
--<< Bruce >>--
Bruce L. Bergman
<ignoram...@NOSPAM.21666.invalid> wrote:
>On 2010-02-17, JTMcC <firstra...@citlink.net> wrote:
>> No, you called it a "pipeline welder", what do you base that on?
>
>On the label on the control panel of the machine.
>
>> There's a limited number of machines used in mainline construction,
>> so just what machine do you have that you consider a pipeline
>> welder?
>
>Airco Scamp-C pipeline welder. I will take pictures of it, but could
>not today due to darkness.
Do some research - IIRC, AIRCO didn't build their gear, they just
put their tags on someone else's gear. Probably a SA-200 variant.
--<< Bruce >>--
kfvo...@gmail.com
wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:58:25 -0600, "Martin H. Eastburn"
>
There's nothing worse than a pig truck.
Karl
Ignoramus15568
Considering the engine, I would agree. This is an all-copper welder
with the same engine as SA-200.
i
Pete C.
It's *always* the truckers fault since they are operating the over
weight, over sized permit load. It is their responsibility to be paying
the utmost attention to handling that load. If the trucker and their
escorts doesn't adequately warn and block off cars from getting in the
way of the truck performing an "unexpected" maneuver like taking a right
turn from the far left lane, *they* have failed. Yes, the people in the
cars are oblivious idiots, but the responsibility still lies with the
oversized vehicle taking making the unexpected maneuver.
David Lesher
>No, you called it a "pipeline welder", what do you base that
>on? There's a limited number of machines used in mainline
>construction, so just what machine do you have that you consider a
>pipeline welder?
When I worked on a products pipeline, we considered whatever
gas-powered welder that was in the truck bed to be the "pipeline
welder" of the moment. Over time, the truck and the machine changed.
What was missing from the OP was *where* it is: Maine,
Califunny, Florida, or somewhere inbetween.
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Ignoramus15568
> "JTMcC" <firstra...@citlink.net> writes:
>
>>No, you called it a "pipeline welder", what do you base that
>>on? There's a limited number of machines used in mainline
>>construction, so just what machine do you have that you consider a
>>pipeline welder?
>
> When I worked on a products pipeline, we considered whatever
> gas-powered welder that was in the truck bed to be the "pipeline
> welder" of the moment. Over time, the truck and the machine changed.
In my case, it is easier, as it says "pipeline welder" right on the
face. Airco SCAMP-C Pipeline welder. It was actually made by Miller
and is the same as Miller Big 40-G.
> What was missing from the OP was *where* it is: Maine,
> Califunny, Florida, or somewhere inbetween.
Sorry, Illinois.
i
JTMcC
"Ignoramus15568" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.15568.invalid> wrote in message
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>>
> In my case, it is easier, as it says "pipeline welder" right on the
> face. Airco SCAMP-C Pipeline welder. It was actually made by Miller
> and is the same as Miller Big 40-G.
> >
>
That's interesting, the Big 40's were reliable and had a good reputation.
Not used in mainline construction but a lot of structural and equipment guys
loved them.
JTMcC.
Ignoramus15568
I love it too. Just starting it and hearing it purr is a pleasure.
I spoke today to the maintenance company that maintained it.
This particular welder was made in 1968, so it is 42 years old, and it
is still going strong, although it was maintained and upgraded a lot
(new waterpump,sanded/painted enclosure etc).
It is quiet as a mouse when in idle, and reasonably quiet at full
throttle.
I may be able to wash the road salt off of it tonight and then I will
take pictures.
Also, today I will hopefully receive the replacement wheel hub and
will replace it. As I said, one hub on it is missing a chunk.
As it has the same engine as SA-200, and all copper windings, I would
think that it should be just as suitable for pipeline work as would be
an SA-200.
i
Ignoramus15568
JTMcC
"Ignoramus15568" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.15568.invalid> wrote in message
It's not.
JTMcC.
Leo Lichtman
"Ignoramus15568" wrote: (clip) and all copper windings, (clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I didn't know windings were ever made of anything else. Iggy, or anyone,
can you fill me in?
Ignoramus15568
I have seen aluminum windings .
i
Bruce L. Bergman
wrote:
>"Bruce L. Bergman" wrote:
>> That's what the Pilot Car is along for - besides scouting ahead for
>> low bridges and huge potholes, he's there to run interference at the
>> turns and block the idiots in the 4-wheelers. They see the truck
>> signaling for a right turn and swinging way wide to the left to clear
>> the curbs - then try to cut past on the inside.
>>
>> Sometimes they make it, sometimes they don't, but a slick talker can
>> make it the trucker's fault.
>
>It's *always* the truckers fault since they are operating the over
>weight, over sized permit load. It is their responsibility to be paying
>the utmost attention to handling that load. If the trucker and their
>escorts doesn't adequately warn and block off cars from getting in the
>way of the truck performing an "unexpected" maneuver like taking a right
>turn from the far left lane, *they* have failed. Yes, the people in the
>cars are oblivious idiots, but the responsibility still lies with the
>oversized vehicle taking making the unexpected maneuver.
If there's any justice at all, they try to sue and the Judge turns
it right back around. "Case dismissed, with prejudice - don't come
back. Now then, Mr. Trucker: Would you like to counter sue for your
damages and court costs? Don't be shy."
I have to deal with idiots being in places they shouldn't be and
trying Suicide Squeeze passes every day - and I'm only a 1-ton utility
bed. But they figure that the Key to the State comes along with that
Audi or BMW or Mercedes.
There are a few who really do, the ones with Consul Corps plates.
--<< Bruce >>--
RoyJ
a car made a right turn from the far left lane, they would get a ticket.
If a truck does the same it's OK??? If you can't drive on the road,
don't drive on the road. I fully understand that it's real tough to put
a 53 foot (and maybe a bit more) semi into a curvy cul-du-sac
residential street like some idiot trucker tried to do on the side
street next to my house but idiots should get what they deserve.
BTW: said trucker could only get out of the cul-du-sac by attempting to
back it into the only driveway on the street where someone was not home.
Bruce L. Bergman
Just thought of something - I'll bet this is one of the rigs that
has the 120V *DC* auxiliary power outlet right above the generator
section end-bell. It'll be a NEMA-1 two-prong, non grounding, or
possibly one of the old Hubbellock two-pin mini twistlocks.
Check it before you use it for anything other than a resistive (light
bulb) load or a brush-type AC/DC universal motor. That usually means
fixed-speed or two-speed Sawzalls and Porta-Band and Hole Hawg drills,
or Skil 77 framing saws.
Or for welding, a brush-type angle grinder.
If it is DC and isn't well marked, make a BIG SIGN. If it's got
variable speed it probably will not work - even though the tool has a
universal motor, the variable speed trigger electronics can't cope
with DC.
Household heaters are out, the element is resistive but the fan
motors on anything modern are usually shaded pole. AC Only.
--<< Bruce >>--
Pete C.
RoyJ wrote:
>
> So you think that there are different laws for card than for trucks? If
> a car made a right turn from the far left lane, they would get a ticket.
> If a truck does the same it's OK??? If you can't drive on the road,
> don't drive on the road. I fully understand that it's real tough to put
> a 53 foot (and maybe a bit more) semi into a curvy cul-du-sac
> residential street like some idiot trucker tried to do on the side
> street next to my house but idiots should get what they deserve.
>
> BTW: said trucker could only get out of the cul-du-sac by attempting to
> back it into the only driveway on the street where someone was not home.
The semis carrying the wind turbine blades that were noted are well over
53' and are special oversize permit loads. They need to take extra wide
turns even on multi lane main roads, but again *they* and their lead and
chase vehicles are responsible for doing this safely.
Up North
"Ignoramus15568" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.15568.invalid> wrote in message
Iggy
What are you asking for it? I am traveling near your location next week.
Steve
Ignoramus27020
Email me at ichudov AT algebra DOT com
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
>
Wes
> And I'd have to rebuild my flatbed single-axle trailer to get it
>home, you can't take that rig on the freeway.
And you won't like Illinois tolls for a trailer either.
Wes
--
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government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller
DoN. Nichols
Well ... I've not seen actually *wound* windings of anything but
copper (that I know of), but the fabricated windings used in the rotors
of induction motors are sometimes aluminum strips in the slots welded
to aluminum rings on the ends. My guess is that this is either for less
weight for faster acceleration, or to allow higher maximum speeds to
avoid the ripping apart from speed which I expect from the experiment in
question.
BTW I would feel that the motor would be more likely to
self-disassemble at 400 Hz if it were a 3600 RPM (actually a
little slower for slip) motor (2-pole) instead of an 1800 RPM
(4-pole) motor. I believe that most makers use the same rotor
assembly in multiple speeds of induction motors, so with the
3600 RPM frame, there would be more stress beyond the design
speed than in an 1800 RPM frame or slower.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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Martin H. Eastburn
is used. :-)
Mostly in coils but some special purpose motors and steering devices.
When small size is needed but high power. Money is no object.
Martin
David Lesher
Well, during the Manhattan Project, many miles of wire were needed for
the cyclotrons at Oak Ridge. Copper being a critical material; the
folks working on same looked for a substitute.
Silver is a better conductor than copper, much less aluminum, so the
fellow dropped in at the office of Undersecretary of the Treasury
William Bell & asked to borrow about 6000 ton from the West Point
depository. Bell's response was they used troy ounces when talking
about silver. Eventually they borrowed about 14500 ton of silver.
It was returned.
Bruce L. Bergman
wrote:
>
The truckers invariably are doing every thing they can to avoid
trouble while maneuvering the oversize loads, and I've seen LOTS of
idiot drivers who are in too big a hurry to allow them to make their
turn safely. You block them, and they try to go up on the sidewalk to
get around you.
The only way to make them behave is have a cop there. And not a
security guard, someone with ticketing and arrest powers and the
ability to make your insurance rates triple.
I see more problems from truckers driving regulation loads and
trailers on busy city streets clipping curbs and light poles - and
occasionally fire hydrants...
Because the trucker should have taken the curve much wider, but they
would have people cutting around on the inside with their cars and
getting hit by the trailer if the truck swung wide enough to do it
cleanly.
Happens daily on a busy curve near home. The four-wheelers don't
understand that once the tractor commits to the turn, they often can
not see the tail of the trailer or anyone trying to make the sneak
move - there are blind spots you can lose an ocean liner in.
They can't see that they need to stop, yet they get the blame for
hitting the other guy where he shouldn't have been.
" I Me Mine, yes I own the road, here's the receipt." (As they wave
the Mercedes lease papers.)
--<< Bruce >>--
Bruce L. Bergman
>Bruce L. Bergman <bruceNOSP...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> And I'd have to rebuild my flatbed single-axle trailer to get it
>>home, you can't take that rig on the freeway.
>
>And you won't like Illinois tolls for a trailer either.
Worse, I'll bet the sonsab****es put speed bumps on all the side
roads that avoid the toll roads. On purpose.
Shouldn't give them ideas... (Sorry, Iggy.)
There are still times " I Love L.A." The parking might not be free
anymore, but the roads still are.
--<< Bruce >>--
Ignoramus23515
I think that the concept of toll roads is just fine, accidentally,
with apropriate safeguards. This means that drivers pay for roads, and
not non-drivers.
i
Wild_Bill
transformers.
The aluminum windings were used prior to year 2000, but I dunno how much
earlier.
On several of the domesic USA welder manufacturers' websites, there are
comments in the FAQ sections wrt aluminum windings.
My Hobart MIG welder (2002, maybe) has aluminum windings, but my
Solar/Century MIG from the early 90s has copper.
Also, many induction motors have stators wound with aluminum, and some of it
has a dark red colored coating that looks like enameled copper wire.
I'm not aware of any aluminum windings used on AC/DC universal, or DC motor
armatures. I would think wound aluminum wire for armature use would be
highly problematic.
--
WB
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Jim Stewart
> "Leo Lichtman" <leo.li...@att.net> writes:
>
>
>> "Ignoramus15568" wrote: (clip) and all copper windings, (clip)
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> I didn't know windings were ever made of anything else. Iggy, or anyone,
>> can you fill me in?
>
> Well, during the Manhattan Project, many miles of wire were needed for
> the cyclotrons at Oak Ridge. Copper being a critical material; the
> folks working on same looked for a substitute.
To be a little pedantic, they weren't cyclotrons.
They were called calutrons, a type of mass spectrometer.
Pete C.
Oh, I quite agree that the distracted, inattentive, arrogant, aggressive
PYVs in their yuppmobiles are the root of the problems, but legally, the
driver of the oversized vehicle has the responsibility for operating the
vehicle safely when making maneuvers where they require more than the
normal lane width.
Snag
Yeah , kinda like if somebody trespasses and drowns in your swimming pool
while you're not home . Doesn't matter if you have ten foot high chainlink
topped with razor ribbon and six locks on the gate that they have to get
through .
It's still your fault , and you'll be held liable .
--
Snag
We live in
an it's-your-fault
society - and
it sucks .
Bob F
>
> I believe that this is the case, this is a trailer with a small piece
> of equipment (welder) bolted to it. Needs lights, yes, but no
> license.
Is that generally true? I have wondered about requirements for towing my log
splitter here in Washington state.
Bruce L. Bergman
wrote:
>Ignoramus21666 wrote:
The laws tend to be MORE OR LESS uniform between the states, but
it's the little details that will drive you utterly mad.
They generally offer reciprocity in cases of honest misunderstanding
or when the laws are more strict in the state you are traveling to or
through. But you might have to go plead your case to the judge.
Check with the Washington state DMV (or whatever they call it) to
see what you need. Or call your friendly local cops, they are the
ones that are going to hassle you about it.
In California, farm and construction implements that are not
generally driven on the street do not have to have license plates for
incidental travel on the roads.
This counts for tractors, combines, center loaders, graders, rollers
and compactors, mining dump trucks, unitized pavers, profile grinders,
and other self-propelled construction equipment. And for certain
trailer-mounted or trailer-converted equipment (bolt an axle and tires
to one end of the cement mixer, and a tongue & coupler to the other.)
Farmers often have to cross the road with tractors and other
implements to farm their land on the other side, without loading it
onto a road legal trailer each time for a 200-foot trip, or a quarter
mile down the road if he's renting another tract. That's where the
laws originate.
Where you DO have to get license plates is stuff that is on the road
all day for long distances - tow-behind forklifts that travel on their
own tires, most cargo and utility trailers.
Tow Dollies are a gray area, some states require plates on them - but
they do not carry any cargo, just the front wheels of the car in tow.
(This is where semantics are important and words really do have
meanings - you have to parse out the exact statute word for word...)
The car *on* the tow dolly has to have current tags on it if it's
being towed on a public street - if you don't or can't get tags you
have to use a full car trailer and get all four tires off the street.
And you can get plates put on almost anything, handy if you are a
rental yard that wants a Certificate Of Title to prove ownership. They
have the Special Equipment plates that are motorcycle sized and
cheaper than usual.
--<< Bruce >>--
Martin H. Eastburn
As an example, when moving from Southern Ca. to Texas in the 50's,
half of our whole goods being shipped was stopped at the boarder.
It was packed in two 40' trailers and the law at the time in TX
allowed for no semi-trailers after another.
Now they run 80' and make it anywhere.
So call ahead as some state lines are a long way to destination.
Martin
Jon Danniken
> On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:57:00 -0800, "Bob F" <bobn...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Ignoramus21666 wrote:
>
>>> I believe that this is the case, this is a trailer with a small
>>> piece of equipment (welder) bolted to it. Needs lights, yes, but no
>>> license.
>>
>> Is that generally true? I have wondered about requirements for
>> towing my log splitter here in Washington state.
>
> The laws tend to be MORE OR LESS uniform between the states, but
> it's the little details that will drive you utterly mad.
>
> They generally offer reciprocity in cases of honest misunderstanding
> or when the laws are more strict in the state you are traveling to or
> through. But you might have to go plead your case to the judge.
>
> Check with the Washington state DMV (or whatever they call it) to
> see what you need. Or call your friendly local cops, they are the
> ones that are going to hassle you about it.
Here in Oregon, one is not required to license a trailer unless the gross
weight of the trailer plus contents is over 1800 pounds.
Jon
Steve B
"Ignoramus15568" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.15568.invalid> wrote
> I love it too. Just starting it and hearing it purr is a pleasure.
>
> I spoke today to the maintenance company that maintained it.
>
> This particular welder was made in 1968, so it is 42 years old, and it
> is still going strong, although it was maintained and upgraded a lot
> (new waterpump,sanded/painted enclosure etc).
>
> It is quiet as a mouse when in idle, and reasonably quiet at full
> throttle.
>
> I may be able to wash the road salt off of it tonight and then I will
> take pictures.
>
> Also, today I will hopefully receive the replacement wheel hub and
> will replace it. As I said, one hub on it is missing a chunk.
>
> As it has the same engine as SA-200, and all copper windings, I would
> think that it should be just as suitable for pipeline work as would be
> an SA-200.
>
> i
I have one on my SA 200, and it is great. The main thing is that you can
get parts easily, it runs at low rpm, and lasts forever.
Steve
Ignoramus15530
Another plus is that there any many people, like you, who know these
machines inside and out.
i
Steve B
"Ignoramus15530" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.15530.invalid> wrote in message
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It's an L head four banger. A ten year old could fix one.
Steve ;-)
Private
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>
> "Ignoramus15568" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.15568.invalid> wrote in message
snip
>> As it has the same engine as SA-200,
IIRC the SA-200 engine is a model F162, and the Big 40 engine is model F163,
the major difference is the F162 has a front mounted magneto ignition and
the F163 has a coil and top mounted distributor. IIRC there are other
differences in oil filter and water pump shaft size?
>> and all copper windings,
IIRC some of the later Millers, especially smaller and those with other
branding, used a cheap looking external belt driven (top of generator)
alternator rather than an internal exciter winding and are not as highly
desirable.
>>I would
>> think that it should be just as suitable for pipeline work as would be
>> an SA-200.
>>
>> i
>
>
> It's not.
>
> JTMcC.
In the pipe world Lincoln welders are loved for their pure DC generators and
smooth and steady DC output. This is particularly good for root and hot
passes and for downhand work. There is a definite 'grey' culture on pipe
jobs. If you show up on the job with a blue machine you will probably be
lonely and will be assumed to not be very good or knowledgeable, you will be
judged and probably tested closer and more often.
The Millar Big series welders are 3 phase AC generators rectified to DC.
This gives a square wave form which fluctuates slightly and some think is
helpful when welding dirty or rusty steel. Pipe joints are normally very
clean and well prepared. The 3 phase generators seem to demand less engine
power to turn. Both welders will happily burn 3/16" (or 1/4") LoHy but the
Lincoln's rain hat will be standing straight up and barking. I suspect that
the Lincoln will use a little more gasoline (when working hard) but both use
~1 gal/hr. Both will put out about 375 amps but the Lincoln is rated 200
amps @ 60% duty cycle while the Millar Big 40 is 300 amps @ 100% duty cycle.
The Millar can run big flux core (drooper) wire feeders and has no problem
with ArcAir. The Millar has AC power usable even when welding, most?
Lincoln SA-200s use the exciter windings to provide DC auxiliary tool power
but not while welding.
As JTMcC (who has always impressed me as very knowledgeable wrt grey
machines and pipe) said, "the Big 40's were reliable and had a good
reputation. Not used in mainline (pipeline) construction but a lot of
structural and equipment guys loved them." I have welded lots of pipe with
Big 40s, but would never claim them to be as good or as nice as Lincolns for
pure pipe work.
The SA-200 and Big 40 are both excellent machines and were the two industry
standards for many years. They both cost more to run (use more gasoline)
and are heavier than more modern machines many of which also offer CV, AC
and TIG features. The current favourite in my patch is the Lincoln
generator / Kubota diesel powered units from Red-D-Arc, Most rig weldors
want to use the same fuel in their welders as in their rig truck, but some
are still using new diesel trucks hauling plain old gas powered SA-200s that
are as old as the weldors running them.
Just my .02, YMMV
Ignoramus21067
360 Hz AC component and the ripple is only 5 percent, so it does not
amount to much. I obviously would not claim to know anything about
pipeline welding, so perhaps that 5% makes a big difference.
Looks like Lincoln sells a diesel version (Pipeliner 200D) that looks
like the old Shield-Arc 200 and has the same construction with DC
exciter, etc. Looks like it is in a stainless enclosure also.
i
Private
"Ignoramus21067" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.21067.invalid> wrote in message
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http://content.lincolnelectric.com/pdfs/products/literature/e6132.pdf
Looks like a very nice machine and the Kubota diesel engine is well regarded
for economy and long trouble free service life when oil and filters
(especially fuel) are properly maintained.
It is a real tribute to Lincoln's high quality industrial design that a
generator designed in WW2 is still the current standard of the industry. I
bet the current price is a lot higher than that of the 6090 (SA-200) that I
learned on which was $1407. new, including the electric starter which IIRC
was optional. I bet that machine is still working and worth as much or more
today than it was when new, and has earned a lot of money for the weldors it
has enabled. I can only guess at how many $ of gasoline it has consumed.
Ignoramus21067
Private, Kubota diesels are great.
I once bought a 20+ year old diesel powered floor scrubber that was
all rotted out.
The price was $120 or some such.
As I expected, the scrubber was junk, but inside of it was a perfectly
well working Kubota diesel. These engines can stand up to a lot.
I scrapped the remains of the scrubber.
i
JTMcC
"Private" <ple...@dont.bother> wrote in message
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> It is a real tribute to Lincoln's high quality industrial design that a
> generator designed in WW2 is still the current standard of the industry.
> I bet the current price is a lot higher than that of the 6090 (SA-200)
> that I learned on which was $1407. new, including the electric starter
> which IIRC was optional. I bet that machine is still working and worth as
> much or more today than it was when new, and has earned a lot of money for
> the weldors it has enabled. I can only guess at how many $ of gasoline it
> has consumed.
It's interesting that the starter was an option up until the early 70's or
so.
In mainline construction the Miller PipePro is on roughly a quarter or more
of the rigs.
Lincoln Vantages are about the same, the remainder are mostly 200's (old and
new), 300D's and a few 250's.
You're right, the Miller alternator machines won't keep up with a DC
generator and that's why they weren't used. The PipePro is an inverter and
the Vantages use the chopper module, both are made to mimic the
characteristics of the true DC generators, plus they'll do other things the
pure DC machine won't so they are catching on well.
The PipePro cost's more than a 200, the Vantage less. PipePro has had quite
a few reliability problems.
JTMcC.
>
>
Sano
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> Works great and comes with a 4 wheeled trailer. This is a "big one",
> not a little 200a welder. Nice external appearance. New waterpump
> etc. Big leads also included.
>
> Pintle hitch. No lights on trailer.
>
> Price for rec.crafts.metalworking readers is less than I expect to get
> elsewhere.
Speaking of Continental powered equipment, I have a query.
Does anyone think there's any value in a small (85CFM) Worthington air
compressor? It's got a 90 cu.in. Continental flathead on it, V4 two stage
compressor and runs like a top. Good air tank on it as well for it's age.
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hammer.
john
makes a very nice leaf blower.
John
Steve B
"Sano" <gregs.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Would that be delivered? ;-)
Steve
Bruce L. Bergman
wrote:
>Ignoramus12951 <ignoram...@NOSPAM.12951.invalid> wrote in
>news:7tednSE0Ab62Y-TW...@giganews.com:
>
>> Works great and comes with a 4 wheeled trailer. This is a "big one",
>> not a little 200a welder. Nice external appearance. New waterpump
>> etc. Big leads also included.
>>
>> Pintle hitch. No lights on trailer.
>>
>> Price for rec.crafts.metalworking readers is less than I expect to get
>> elsewhere.
>
>Speaking of Continental powered equipment, I have a query.
>
>Does anyone think there's any value in a small (85CFM) Worthington air
>compressor? It's got a 90 cu.in. Continental flathead on it, V4 two stage
>compressor and runs like a top. Good air tank on it as well for it's age.
85 CFM is "Small" by today's standards, when they want two or three
guys working off it at the same time, Now Now NOW! But that is plenty
for one pavement breaker, or one sandblast pressure bucket, or...
Asking in r.c.m where most of us aren't in that big a rush (and
don't mind stopping it to check the oil and coolant levels every few
hours) and it's a perfectly good unit.
Tell us where it is, and what's the 'daily rental rate' for RCM
people - you may be able to make it earn it's keep...
I usually fix it up things I borrow a little in lieu of part of the
rental - things it needs, like new belts and hoses, an oil change and
PM, or rework the output manifold with new quick connects and ball
valves, a new point chisel for the breaker hammer, stuff like that. Do
that a few times, and you'll have it fully fixed up, tooled & stocked
with spares - better than cash sometimes.
I don't need a towable compressor that often, but it's plenty big
enough for an Electrician that occasionally has to chip out a direct
burial pole base without wrecking the conduits inside the concrete.
Or we find a massively oversized footing that heads straight to
China for no reason - take off the top 18", place new conduit sweeps
out the sides, then drill and dowel the new footing to the remainders
of the old one.
And it's big enough to act as a temporary backup for a small shop
that lost it's electric motor compressor, especially if it has an idle
control and unloader on it. Get them through the day till the
McMaster-Carr Fairies can deliver a new motor.
--<< Bruce >>--
Wes
>> There are still times " I Love L.A." The parking might not be free
>> anymore, but the roads still are.
>
>I think that the concept of toll roads is just fine, accidentally,
>with apropriate safeguards. This means that drivers pay for roads, and
>not non-drivers.
What is the state gas tax used for?
The non drivers, do they walk or use mass transit?
Where does mass transit dollars come from?
Wes
Ignoramus19261
> Ignoramus23515 <ignoram...@NOSPAM.23515.invalid> wrote:
>
>>> There are still times " I Love L.A." The parking might not be free
>>> anymore, but the roads still are.
>>
>>I think that the concept of toll roads is just fine, accidentally,
>>with apropriate safeguards. This means that drivers pay for roads, and
>>not non-drivers.
>
> What is the state gas tax used for?
non toll roads?
Sano
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> On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 04:59:07 -0600, Sano <gregs.po...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
<snip>
>>Speaking of Continental powered equipment, I have a query.
>>
>>Does anyone think there's any value in a small (85CFM) Worthington
>>air compressor? It's got a 90 cu.in. Continental flathead on it, V4
>>two stage compressor and runs like a top. Good air tank on it as well
>>for it's age.
>
> 85 CFM is "Small" by today's standards, when they want two or three
> guys working off it at the same time, Now Now NOW! But that is
> plenty for one pavement breaker, or one sandblast pressure bucket,
> or...
>
> Asking in r.c.m where most of us aren't in that big a rush (and
> don't mind stopping it to check the oil and coolant levels every few
> hours) and it's a perfectly good unit.
>
> Tell us where it is, and what's the 'daily rental rate' for RCM
> people - you may be able to make it earn it's keep...
<snip>
> And it's big enough to act as a temporary backup for a small shop
> that lost it's electric motor compressor, especially if it has an
> idle control and unloader on it. Get them through the day till the
> McMaster-Carr Fairies can deliver a new motor.
Thanks all, for the suggestions. I wrench+weld, anything 'cept autos,
for a living.
I'm in the 'between Cleveland and Akron, Oh' area. And yeah, it will
run a single hammer, there's probably one laying around my buddy's shop
going to poop. ;)
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i
Bruce L. Bergman
<ignoram...@NOSPAM.26630.invalid> wrote:
>sold
>
>i
If you've got a use for it Iggy, go for it. If it was close, I'd be
talking to him. But what are you going to use it _FOR?_
It's not just the having, it's the using. "He Who Dies With The
Most Toys Wins" is pointless if you never need or use the toys.
--<< Bruce >>--
Leo Lichtman
"Bruce L. Bergman" wrote: (clip) It's not just the having, it's the using.
> Most Toys Wins" is pointless if you never need or use the toys.
That may be true for you, Bruce, but not for everyone. I recently bought a
gorgeous pocket watch that doesn't keep time as well as my quartz wrist
watch--it has a glass front and back, and a wonderful movement. I enjoy
just watching it run.
Sano
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Ah yeah!
I'm not a big collector, but prefer well-built things to look at too.
--
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Steve B
"Sano" <gregs.po...@gmail.com> wrote
> I'm not a big collector, but prefer well-built things to look at too.
And sometimes the small things. Like an arrowhead the size of a fingernail,
and a piece of ice age Columbian mastodon tusk.
Steve
Gunner Asch
<bmckee...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>"Ignoramus12951" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.12951.invalid> wrote in message
>news:CsednYdfkPLOm-fW...@giganews.com...
>> On 2010-02-16, Ignoramus12951 <ignoram...@NOSPAM.12951.invalid> wrote:
>>> Works great and comes with a 4 wheeled trailer. This is a "big one",
>>> not a little 200a welder. Nice external appearance. New waterpump
>>> etc. Big leads also included.
>>
>> Make it 375 amps, not 275.
>>
>> Also it has both CC and CV mode.
>>
>> Also, one of the wheels mounting plates (to which the wheel is bolted)
>> is missing a chunk. I am sure it needs to be replaced.
>>
>> Also the trailer has no springs. I just drove it for 50 miles and I
>> know that it works, but it is a little bumpy.
>>
>> i
>>
>>> Pintle hitch. No lights on trailer.
>>>
>>> Price for rec.crafts.metalworking readers is less than I expect to get
>>> elsewhere.
>>>
>>> i
>
>Funny story about gas powered, trailer welders. I borrowed my dad's one day
>to work on my race car, before I owned a welder. Taking back to dad, the
>tongue decided to break off. Nice thing about it, that the welder is self
>powered. Cranked up the welder on the side of a street in Berkeley, CA and
>rewelded the tongue. Always figured the local's would have complained about
>welding without a special permit.
>
I brought home tonight a Hobart Bro. (ages that a bit dont it?) trailer
mounted welder. 250 amp DC, with a 6 cylinder gas engine. Story I got
was that it came off a Liberty ship.
Had to cough up $60 for two used 16" tires. Damnedest wheels Ive ever
seen. No hole in the center of the rim, just a bulge so it clears the
wheel nut.
Ill post pictures later today.
Gunner
Whenever a Liberal utters the term "Common Sense approach"....grab your
wallet, your ass, and your guns because the sombitch is about to do
something damned nasty to all three of them.
Gunner Asch
<ignoram...@NOSPAM.15568.invalid> wrote:
>Here's the video of it running
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p_LjiCGXhg
That is a NICE machine!
Gunner Asch
<firstra...@citlink.net> wrote:
>I am a pipeliner and have been for a long time.
>A "pipeliner" is any of the various versions of the SA-200 from the 40's
>till today.
>There's really no such thing as a 375 amp pipeliner unless you're describing
>a SA-200, and they will make up to and over 400 amps maxed out.
>SA-200's are the only machines that are termed "pipeliners", even tho there
>are a few other machines in common use in the field.
>So I ask, again, what the heck is a 375 amp pipeliner?
>
>JTMcC, Pipeline Welder
Its a Miller
And the Miller 55G (which I have) is considered a "pipeliner" here in
the California errral patch. 400 amps, CV/CC
Gunner
>
>
>"john" <amd...@intergrafix.net> wrote in message
>news:Va2dnR8pdKtKiubW...@giganews.com...
>> Ignoramus21666 wrote:
>>> On 2010-02-16, JTMcC<firstra...@citlink.net> wrote:
>>>> What the heck is a "375 amp pipeline welder"?
>>>
>>> A welder to weld pipelines maybe? with 375 amps of current?
>>>
>>> i
>>>
>>>> JTMcC.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Ignoramus12951"<ignoram...@NOSPAM.12951.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:CsednYdfkPLOm-fW...@giganews.com...
>>>>> On 2010-02-16, Ignoramus12951<ignoram...@NOSPAM.12951.invalid>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Works great and comes with a 4 wheeled trailer. This is a "big one",
>>>>>> not a little 200a welder. Nice external appearance. New waterpump
>>>>>> etc. Big leads also included.
>>>>>
>>>>> Make it 375 amps, not 275.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also it has both CC and CV mode.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, one of the wheels mounting plates (to which the wheel is bolted)
>>>>> is missing a chunk. I am sure it needs to be replaced.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also the trailer has no springs. I just drove it for 50 miles and I
>>>>> know that it works, but it is a little bumpy.
>>>>>
>>>>> i
>>>>>
>>>>>> Pintle hitch. No lights on trailer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Price for rec.crafts.metalworking readers is less than I expect to get
>>>>>> elsewhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>> A Pipeliner Welder is a brand name of Lincoln Electric used to do heavy
>> welding in the field, pipeline welding being one of its uses from where
>> they took the name.
>>
>> John
Gunner Asch
<ignoram...@NOSPAM.15568.invalid> wrote:
>On 2010-02-17, JTMcC <firstra...@citlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> "Ignoramus15568" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.15568.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:dNCdnQJ2IrzeyeHW...@giganews.com...
>>>>
>>> In my case, it is easier, as it says "pipeline welder" right on the
>>> face. Airco SCAMP-C Pipeline welder. It was actually made by Miller
>>> and is the same as Miller Big 40-G.
>>
>> That's interesting, the Big 40's were reliable and had a good reputation.
>> Not used in mainline construction but a lot of structural and equipment guys
>> loved them.
>>
>
>I love it too. Just starting it and hearing it purr is a pleasure.
>
>I spoke today to the maintenance company that maintained it.
>
>This particular welder was made in 1968, so it is 42 years old, and it
>is still going strong, although it was maintained and upgraded a lot
>(new waterpump,sanded/painted enclosure etc).
That? was built in 68?????? Looked much much newer than that!!
My Miller 55G was built in 85 and has a F163 in it, rated at 400 amps,
CV/CC
Gunner
>
>It is quiet as a mouse when in idle, and reasonably quiet at full
>throttle.
>
>I may be able to wash the road salt off of it tonight and then I will
>take pictures.
>
>Also, today I will hopefully receive the replacement wheel hub and
>will replace it. As I said, one hub on it is missing a chunk.
>
>As it has the same engine as SA-200, and all copper windings, I would
>think that it should be just as suitable for pipeline work as would be
>an SA-200.
>
>i
Whenever a Liberal utters the term "Common Sense approach"....grab your
Gunner Asch
<firstra...@citlink.net> wrote:
>
>"Ignoramus15568" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.15568.invalid> wrote in message
>news:e-SdnXAM-dTzwuHW...@giganews.com...
>> On 2010-02-17, JTMcC <firstra...@citlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> "Ignoramus15568" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.15568.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:dNCdnQJ2IrzeyeHW...@giganews.com...
>>>>>
>>>> In my case, it is easier, as it says "pipeline welder" right on the
>>>> face. Airco SCAMP-C Pipeline welder. It was actually made by Miller
>>>> and is the same as Miller Big 40-G.
>>>
>>> That's interesting, the Big 40's were reliable and had a good reputation.
>>> Not used in mainline construction but a lot of structural and equipment
>>> guys
>>> loved them.
>>>
>>
>> I love it too. Just starting it and hearing it purr is a pleasure.
>>
>> I spoke today to the maintenance company that maintained it.
>>
>> This particular welder was made in 1968, so it is 42 years old, and it
>> is still going strong, although it was maintained and upgraded a lot
>> (new waterpump,sanded/painted enclosure etc).
>>
>> It is quiet as a mouse when in idle, and reasonably quiet at full
>> throttle.
>>
>> I may be able to wash the road salt off of it tonight and then I will
>> take pictures.
>>
>> Also, today I will hopefully receive the replacement wheel hub and
>> will replace it. As I said, one hub on it is missing a chunk.
>>
>> As it has the same engine as SA-200, and all copper windings, I would
>> think that it should be just as suitable for pipeline work as would be
>> an SA-200.
>>
>> i
>
>
>It's not.
>
>JTMcC.
>
Why not?
Gunner
Gunner Asch
What about the 55G Miller?
Gunner Asch
<ignoram...@NOSPAM.26630.invalid> wrote:
>sold
>
>i
How much?
Gunner
JTMcC
"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> As it has the same engine as SA-200, and all copper windings, I would
>>> think that it should be just as suitable for pipeline work as would be
>>> an SA-200.
>>>
>>> i
>>
>>
>>It's not.
>>
>>JTMcC.
>>
> Why not?
>
> Gunner
In short because it's an AC alternator while the SA-200 is a pure DC
generator. It get's deeper but that's the main thing.
JTMcC.
JTMcC
> On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 15:39:57 -0700, "JTMcC"
> <firstra...@citlink.net> wrote:
>
>>I am a pipeliner and have been for a long time.
>>A "pipeliner" is any of the various versions of the SA-200 from the 40's
>>till today.
>>There's really no such thing as a 375 amp pipeliner unless you're
>>describing
>>a SA-200, and they will make up to and over 400 amps maxed out.
>>SA-200's are the only machines that are termed "pipeliners", even tho
>>there
>>are a few other machines in common use in the field.
>>So I ask, again, what the heck is a 375 amp pipeliner?
>>
>>JTMcC, Pipeline Welder
>
> Its a Miller
>
> And the Miller 55G (which I have) is considered a "pipeliner" here in
> the California errral patch. 400 amps, CV/CC
>
> Gunner
No it's really not, I've burned several rods in "your" patch, and oil field
work is not pipelineing. Mainline construction differs greatly from the
gathering systems and related work in your area.
There are a lot of machines used in the oil fields that aren't applicable to
pipeline construction.
JTMcC.
JTMcC
Mainly because it's a AC alternator vs. a pure DC generator.
JTMcC.
Gunner Asch
wrote:
Ok. Your opinion is noted. Thanks!
Gunner
Bruce L. Bergman
wrote:
>>Funny story about gas powered, trailer welders. I borrowed my dad's one day
>>to work on my race car, before I owned a welder. Taking back to dad, the
>>tongue decided to break off. Nice thing about it, that the welder is self
>>powered. Cranked up the welder on the side of a street in Berkeley, CA and
>>rewelded the tongue. Always figured the local's would have complained about
>>welding without a special permit.
>
>I brought home tonight a Hobart Bro. (ages that a bit dont it?) trailer
>mounted welder. 250 amp DC, with a 6 cylinder gas engine. Story I got
>was that it came off a Liberty ship.
>
>Had to cough up $60 for two used 16" tires. Damnedest wheels Ive ever
>seen. No hole in the center of the rim, just a bulge so it clears the
>wheel nut.
>
>Ill post pictures later today.
If you need confirmation that the Liberty Ships carried them, my
B-I-L is a Lane Victory crewman. I'll bet they have reference
materials that can either confirm or eliminate it.
"Hobart Brothers" is a huge clue. Chrysler six? They used them on
all the Searchlight generators.
(Welcome home, and please ease up on the trolls. Other than them
railing on about you "running away", it's been quiet. QuietER...)
--<< Bruce >>--
Gunner Asch
Ask him if you think about it.
Here are the pics
http://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/HobartGasolineWelder#
JTMcC
Don't thank me, it's not an opinion it's just the current state of the
workplace.
JTMcC.
Sano
> sci.engr.joining.welding
>
Hey Gunner, I stole yer sig. Thanks
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>Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in
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>> sci.engr.joining.welding
>>
>
>Hey Gunner, I stole yer sig. Thanks
Ive got a ton more, need some?
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Sano
> On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 07:39:55 -0600, Sano <gregs.po...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>news:74u5p5ltm03vob0nt...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> sci.engr.joining.welding
>>>
>>
>>Hey Gunner, I stole yer sig. Thanks
>
>
> Ive got a ton more, need some?
>
> Gunner
<snippy whippy dippy adled weatherman snipage in a George Carlin way of
snipping>
> "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
> Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
>
> Whenever a Liberal utters the term "Common Sense approach"....grab
> your wallet, your ass, and your guns because the sombitch is about
> to do something damned nasty to all three of them.
Alright, I marked your post 'kept'. ;-)
Bruce L. Bergman
wrote:
>> If you need confirmation that the Liberty Ships carried them, my
>>B-I-L is a Lane Victory crewman. I'll bet they have reference
>>materials that can either confirm or eliminate it.
>>
>> "Hobart Brothers" is a huge clue. Chrysler six? They used them on
>>all the Searchlight generators.
>>
>> (Welcome home, and please ease up on the trolls. Other than them
>>railing on about you "running away", it's been quiet. QuietER...)
>
>Ask him if you think about it.
>
>Here are the pics
>
>http://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/HobartGasolineWelder#
I'll forward this to him.
I know you know better ;-P but... You are supposed to either
crank the tongue jack all the way up or remove the jammed jack
*before* going over dips and in and out of driveways. It's supposed
to be vertical.
And get a hitch receiver with some more Rise to it - that's half the
battle with the tongue jack, that little truck has the hitch mounted
way low, the trailer frame should be riding more or less level. With
the tongue low the tongue weight will be too high.
My Van is about the same - I had to buy a Class III/V 6" Rise
receiver to make a two-axle hydraulic trailer ride level - from the
rental yard. ($$) Wouldn't let me out with the 3" rise I normally
carry.
That pink epoxy stuff is worrying - If you are keeping it, now's the
time to find a good block while you can wait for the right price.
I love the open-frame Pick And Hold throttle solenoid...
For 12V generators and old Autolite starters, repeat after me:
Mission Auto Electric, 13472 Van Nuys Bl, Pacoima. 818 896-7736. They
still fix em.
--<< Bruce >>--
Gunner Asch
<bruceNOSP...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 16:51:58 -0800, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>>On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:16:28 -0800, Bruce L. Bergman
>><bruceNOSP...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> If you need confirmation that the Liberty Ships carried them, my
>>>B-I-L is a Lane Victory crewman. I'll bet they have reference
>>>materials that can either confirm or eliminate it.
>>>
>>> "Hobart Brothers" is a huge clue. Chrysler six? They used them on
>>>all the Searchlight generators.
>>>
>>> (Welcome home, and please ease up on the trolls. Other than them
>>>railing on about you "running away", it's been quiet. QuietER...)
>>
>>Ask him if you think about it.
>>
>>Here are the pics
>>
>>http://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/HobartGasolineWelder#
>
> I'll forward this to him.
>
> I know you know better ;-P but... You are supposed to either
>crank the tongue jack all the way up or remove the jammed jack
>*before* going over dips and in and out of driveways. It's supposed
>to be vertical.
Actually..it was that way when I hooked on to it. Shrug...it appears to
be jammed for some reason...lol and the previous owner bent it. Sheared
off one of the bolt heads actually. But..it doesnt drag on anything.
>
> And get a hitch receiver with some more Rise to it - that's half the
>battle with the tongue jack, that little truck has the hitch mounted
>way low, the trailer frame should be riding more or less level. With
>the tongue low the tongue weight will be too high.
>
> My Van is about the same - I had to buy a Class III/V 6" Rise
>receiver to make a two-axle hydraulic trailer ride level - from the
>rental yard. ($$) Wouldn't let me out with the 3" rise I normally
>carry.
Ive got a 6" rise. Unfortunately..its in my van in Ontario.
Btw..Im trying to find a place to put a 20' travel trailer and live in
it during stretches of time. Some place really really cheap, or
someplace I can take machine repair etc in lue of rent. Know of any
plce in So. Cal..let me know. Ive got to move it by next Friday. After
that..Ill be sleeping in my truck if I cant find a place..preferably
inside a yard somewhere. 110 power would be nice..shrug..but not an
actual requirement. Ive got lanterns...shrug again.
>
> That pink epoxy stuff is worrying - If you are keeping it, now's the
>time to find a good block while you can wait for the right price.
>
> I love the open-frame Pick And Hold throttle solenoid...
>
> For 12V generators and old Autolite starters, repeat after me:
>Mission Auto Electric, 13472 Van Nuys Bl, Pacoima. 818 896-7736. They
>still fix em.
>
>--<< Bruce >>--
Noted and saved!!!
Gunner
Bruce L. Bergman
>On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 21:33:14 -0800, Bruce L. Bergman wrote:
>>On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 16:51:58 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>>On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:16:28 -0800, Bruce L. Bergman wrote:
>> I know you know better ;-P but... You are supposed to either
>>crank the tongue jack all the way up or remove the jammed jack
>>*before* going over dips and in and out of driveways. It's supposed
>>to be vertical.
>
>Actually..it was that way when I hooked on to it. Shrug...it appears to
>be jammed for some reason...lol and the previous owner bent it. Sheared
>off one of the bolt heads actually. But..it doesnt drag on anything.
Saw that on another post. Now you know how it got that way.
>Btw..Im trying to find a place to put a 20' travel trailer and live in
>it during stretches of time. Some place really really cheap, or
>someplace I can take machine repair etc in lue of rent. Know of any
>plce in So. Cal..let me know. Ive got to move it by next Friday. After
>that..Ill be sleeping in my truck if I cant find a place..preferably
>inside a yard somewhere. 110 power would be nice..shrug..but not an
>actual requirement. Ive got lanterns...shrug again.
I hesitate to say "here" because it's way north of your preferred
area, and because my brother and his wife (the other Trustees) might
not be amused, so keep looking on the East Side/Orange Cty - but if
all else fails, you can get scrubbed up nice and we can ask them...
There is a side yard that's gated off, but it needs cleaning out and
we'd need to move the 12'X20' "carport" tent frame back, shuffle my
Stuff a little. (It's a much smaller pile of Stuff.)
Is your Van running, tags, etc. to haul it with?
The Hobart Bros can park in Trailer Row next to my Signal Corps
PE-95G in the Henry Spen 3/4-Ton Military, the ex-Sailboat Carrier
flatbed that needs a new bed, and the Coleman Caboose 3X5.
--<< Bruce >>--
Gunner Asch
Thanks Bruce. Im still looking in OC. The Hobart is up north at my
homestead...along with me. I got home about an hour or so ago at 2am.
The van is now parked in a buddies yard behind his big machine shop, at
least for a month or so. Tags expired while I was in the hospital a year
ago after the stroke..I was messed up mentally after that little medical
experiment and completely forgot I even owned a van, until someone asked
about it..and I said "what van?"..and they reminded me. So now the
tags are 2 yrs out of date. And with the fucking California
penalties..those $208 a year tags plus the $90 smog check...its gonna
stay parked for a while. Might pull out the racking and try to get it
registered as a house car or some such.
Hell of a lot cheaper.