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Joe788

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Dec 12, 2009, 1:14:58 PM12/12/09
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Funny how the total bullshit posted in these newsgroup about once a
shop has a CADCAM system it's almost impossible to change doesn't play
out in the real world. Mastercam was completely dumped by one of the
leading shops in San Diego and who has replaced Mastercam with Open
Mind Hypermill.

Further, DP Technology Esprit is being added by many shops who are
sick of Mastercam not being able to get the job done.

When you've had enough bullshit, spin, etc. suggest you check out the
Jon Banquer blog and find out why Mastercam fails miserably at doing
practical / real world multiple part simulation. New screen shots
added this morning show how easy it is to setup a tombstone and solid
cut part verify multiple parts in DP Technology Esprit with none of
the limitations that Mastercam has:

http://jonbanquer.wordpress.com/dp-technology-esprit-vs-mastercam-x4/

"Mastercam requires you to join all your individual .STL parts so they
make up one connected piece. Mastercam won’t simulate separate .STL
files all at once. DP Esprit has no such ridiculous limitation.
Simulating a tombstone with many different parts on it is easy in DP
Technology Esprit. It’s a exercise in frustration in Mastercam and
isn’t practical by any stretch of the imagination."

You can only find this kind of information on the Jon Banquer blog.
The Jon Banquer blog is the leading CAM-centric blog on the internet.

http://jonbanquer.wordpress.com/dp-technology-esprit-vs-mastercam-x4/


vinny

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Dec 12, 2009, 1:26:24 PM12/12/09
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"Joe788" <larry...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Funny how the total bullshit posted in these newsgroup

(fuxored sentencing....)


about once a
shop has a CADCAM system it's almost impossible to change doesn't play
out in the real world. Mastercam was completely dumped by one of the
leading shops in San Diego and who has replaced Mastercam with Open
Mind Hypermill.

******
The center of the CadCam world, san diego.
*****

who are
sick of Mastercam not being able to get the job done.

*****
Sick of shitty programmers with 10 years at work/1 month experience.
For the most part....programmers suck these days.
You have to dig thru 5 shitheads to find 1 keeper.
*****

you've had enough bullshit, spin, etc. suggest you check out the
Jon Banquer blog and find out why Mastercam fails miserably at doing
practical / real world multiple part simulation. New screen shots
added this morning show how easy it is to setup a tombstone and solid
cut part verify multiple parts in DP Technology Esprit with none of
the limitations that Mastercam has:

******
Your the only limitation mastercam has.

******

http://jonbanquer.wordpress.com/dp-technology-esprit-vs-mastercam-x4/

"Mastercam requires you to join all your individual .STL parts so they
make up one connected piece. Mastercam won�t simulate separate .STL
files all at once. DP Esprit has no such ridiculous limitation.

*******
Because it's 3 times the price.
*******

Simulating a tombstone with many different parts on it is easy in DP
Technology Esprit. It�s a exercise in frustration in Mastercam and
isn�t practical by any stretch of the imagination."

******
Skill's still matter, the push button age isn't here yet. Maybe you could
freeze yourself for 20 years?
*******


You can only find this kind of information on the Jon Banquer blog.
The Jon Banquer blog is the leading CAM-centric blog on the internet.

******
Lame. Your blog says nothing. I wish it did, then I wouldn't of wasted 5
minutes of my life checking it out
******

http://jonbanquer.wordpress.com/dp-technology-esprit-vs-mastercam-x4/

HAVE YOU EVER USED ESPRIT?
Have you ever read any of the esprit boards?
People buy that crap...then get super pissed and buy something else.
It's still just wire edm software, and only because they are in bed with
the main wire machine makers, and get first dibbs on power supply/knowledge
based stuff.
I don't like the software at all, and Iv'e proberbly used it more than any
other system.
I'd take a new version of mastercam over esprit anytime for milling.

Joe788

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Dec 12, 2009, 3:03:18 PM12/12/09
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On Dec 12, 10:14 am, Joe788 <larryro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Funny how the total bullshit posted in these newsgroup about once a
> shop has a CADCAM system it's almost impossible to change doesn't play
> out in the real world. Mastercam was completely dumped by one of the
> leading shops in San Diego and who has replaced Mastercam with Open
> Mind Hypermill.
>

Like you have any idea who the "leading shops" are in San Diego. You
don't even work in a "shop". I know a "leading shop" that *was* using
Pro/NC, and just bought two seats of Mastercam Level 3 with lathe and
solids. Since I know one shop who just "dumped" Pro/NC, in Banquerland
that must mean "Pro/NC Is Now Being Dumped So Frequently."

BTW, I Love The Way You Hit The Shift Key At The Beginning Of Every
Word You Type.

> Further, DP Technology Esprit is being added by many shops who are
> sick of Mastercam not being able to get the job done.
>
> When you've had enough bullshit, spin, etc. suggest you check out the
> Jon Banquer blog and find out why Mastercam fails miserably at doing
> practical / real world multiple part simulation. New screen shots
> added this morning show how easy it is to setup a tombstone and solid
> cut part verify multiple parts in DP Technology Esprit with none of
> the limitations that Mastercam has:
>

HAHA!! Just what we need, information about programming for a
tombstone, from a person that works in a faux "shop" filled with worn
out, tool dropping 3 axis VMCs, and not a tombstone in sight.

Why the sudden Esprit Jihad, Jon? It seems to be getting out of hand
more quickly then usual. What about Synchronous Technology? What about
HSMWorks? What about Featurecam? What happened to all of your other
Jihads over the last year?


"Dear Mr. Carroll: I noted your recent post (below) and was
concerned that
your comment "or in the pay of at least one CAD/CAM company)" may
have been
an indication that you might think that Mr. Banquer is affiliated with
our
company. I want to make it clear to you that neither DP Technology
Corp
nor to our knowledge any person or organization affiliated with us is
affiliated in any way with Mr. Banquer, Whatever Mr. Banquer's
thoughts or
claims are or his sources of information are, they are his own
creation and
do not come from us.

Best Regards,
Bill Haas
Chief Financial Officer
DP Technology Corp "

Joe788

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Dec 12, 2009, 3:35:56 PM12/12/09
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Joe788

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Dec 12, 2009, 3:52:29 PM12/12/09
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On Dec 12, 12:35 pm, Joe788 <larryro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Funny how the total bullshit posted in these newsgroup about once a
> shop has a CADCAM system it's almost impossible to change doesn't play
> out in the real world. Mastercam was completely dumped by one of the
> leading shops in San Diego and who has replaced Mastercam with Open
> Mind Hypermill.
>

Like you have any idea who the "leading shops" are in San Diego. You
don't even work in a "shop". I know a "leading shop" that *was* using
Pro/NC, and just bought two seats of Mastercam Level 3 with lathe and
solids. Since I know one shop who just "dumped" Pro/NC, in Banquerland
that must mean "Pro/NC Is Now Being Dumped So Frequently."

BTW, I Love The Way You Hit The Shift Key At The Beginning Of Every
Word You Type.

> Further, DP Technology Esprit is being added by many shops who are


> sick of Mastercam not being able to get the job done.
>
> When you've had enough bullshit, spin, etc. suggest you check out the
> Jon Banquer blog and find out why Mastercam fails miserably at doing
> practical / real world multiple part simulation. New screen shots
> added this morning show how easy it is to setup a tombstone and solid
> cut part verify multiple parts in DP Technology Esprit with none of
> the limitations that Mastercam has:
>
> http://jonbanquer.wordpress.com/dp-technology-esprit-vs-mastercam-x4/
>
> "Mastercam requires you to join all your individual .STL parts so they
> make up one connected piece. Mastercam won’t simulate separate .STL
> files all at once. DP Esprit has no such ridiculous limitation.
> Simulating a tombstone with many different parts on it is easy in DP
> Technology Esprit. It’s a exercise in frustration in Mastercam and
> isn’t practical by any stretch of the imagination."
>
> You can only find this kind of information on the Jon Banquer blog.
> The Jon Banquer blog is the leading CAM-centric blog on the internet.
>
> http://jonbanquer.wordpress.com/dp-technology-esprit-vs-mastercam-x4/

HAHA!! Just what we need, information about programming for a

Joe788

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Dec 12, 2009, 3:57:41 PM12/12/09
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Joe788

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Dec 12, 2009, 4:11:08 PM12/12/09
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On Dec 12, 12:57 pm, Joe788 <larryro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Funny how the total bullshit posted in these newsgroup about once a
> shop has a CADCAM system it's almost impossible to change doesn't play
> out in the real world. Mastercam was completely dumped by one of the
> leading shops in San Diego and who has replaced Mastercam with Open
> Mind Hypermill.
>

Like you have any idea who the "leading shops" are in San Diego. You
don't even work in a "shop". I know a "leading shop" that *was* using
Pro/NC, and just bought two seats of Mastercam Level 3 with lathe and
solids. Since I know one shop who just "dumped" Pro/NC, in Banquerland
that must mean "Pro/NC Is Now Being Dumped So Frequently."

BTW, I Love The Way You Hit The Shift Key At The Beginning Of Every
Word You Type.

> Further, DP Technology Esprit is being added by many shops who are


> sick of Mastercam not being able to get the job done.
>
> When you've had enough bullshit, spin, etc. suggest you check out the
> Jon Banquer blog and find out why Mastercam fails miserably at doing
> practical / real world multiple part simulation. New screen shots
> added this morning show how easy it is to setup a tombstone and solid
> cut part verify multiple parts in DP Technology Esprit with none of
> the limitations that Mastercam has:
>
> http://jonbanquer.wordpress.com/dp-technology-esprit-vs-mastercam-x4/
>
> "Mastercam requires you to join all your individual .STL parts so they
> make up one connected piece. Mastercam won’t simulate separate .STL
> files all at once. DP Esprit has no such ridiculous limitation.
> Simulating a tombstone with many different parts on it is easy in DP
> Technology Esprit. It’s a exercise in frustration in Mastercam and
> isn’t practical by any stretch of the imagination."
>
> You can only find this kind of information on the Jon Banquer blog.
> The Jon Banquer blog is the leading CAM-centric blog on the internet.
>
> http://jonbanquer.wordpress.com/dp-technology-esprit-vs-mastercam-x4/

HAHA!! Just what we need, information about programming for a

Joe788

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Dec 12, 2009, 4:42:51 PM12/12/09
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Joe788

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Dec 12, 2009, 4:55:28 PM12/12/09
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Jon, can you give us 10 specific examples to back up your claim of
Mastercam being "dumped so frequently"?

136,000 installed seats of Mastercam, so it shouldn't be hard to list
10 examples. Even if 1% of users "dumped" it, you'd have at least
1,300 examples.

Joe788

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Dec 12, 2009, 5:23:21 PM12/12/09
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Joe788

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Dec 12, 2009, 5:40:48 PM12/12/09
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On Dec 12, 2:23 pm, Joe788 <larryro...@yahoo.com> wrote:

So, by your incessant copy/pasting of the same rubbish, you're
essentially just telling us that you don't know anybody else that has
"dumped" Mastercam, even though there are 136,000 installs, and you
can't even list 10 examples? Or essentially, you don't even know if .
0001% of the user base has "dumped" Mastercam, but that doesn't stop
you from blabbering on about it over and over, does it?

Joe788

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Dec 12, 2009, 6:11:55 PM12/12/09
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Joe788

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Dec 12, 2009, 6:27:15 PM12/12/09
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> http://jonbanquer.wordpress.com/dp-technology-esprit-vs-mastercam-x4/

> http://jonbanquer.wordpress.com/dp-technology-esprit-vs-mastercam-x4/

136,000 installs, and you can't even list 10 examples of people who
"dumped" Mastercam? Or essentially, you don't even know if .0001% of

Joe788

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Dec 12, 2009, 6:31:47 PM12/12/09
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Joe788

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Dec 13, 2009, 2:53:54 PM12/13/09
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> http://jonbanquer.wordpress.com/dp-technology-esprit-vs-mastercam-x4/

136,000 installs, and you can't even list 10 examples of people who


"dumped" Mastercam? Or essentially, you don't even know if .0001% of
the user base has "dumped" Mastercam, but that doesn't stop you from
blabbering on about it over and over, does it?

How about 5 shops that have dumped it, Jon? Can you list 5? That's
still not even .00005% of users.

Joe788

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Dec 13, 2009, 5:55:16 PM12/13/09
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Joe788

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Dec 15, 2009, 9:25:17 PM12/15/09
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Cliff

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Dec 16, 2009, 10:34:26 AM12/16/09
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On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:25:17 -0800 (PST), Joe788 <larry...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Funny how the total bullshit posted in these newsgroup about once a
>shop has a CADCAM system it's almost impossible to change doesn't play
>out in the real world. Mastercam was completely dumped by one of the
>leading shops in San Diego and who has replaced Mastercam with Open
>Mind Hypermill.

What did the new employee Mom & Pop hired come with?

What do YOU use, if anything?
--
Cliff

Joe788

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Dec 16, 2009, 1:06:40 PM12/16/09
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136,000 installs, and you can't even list 10 examples of people who


"dumped" Mastercam? Or essentially, you don't even know if .0001% of

the user base has "dumped" Mastercam.

How about 5 shops that have dumped it, Jon? Can you list 5? That's
still not even .00005% of users.

I wish I could be a fly on the wall in your shrink's office. It's
gotta be quite something.

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