Why do razor blades get dull so fast?
clarkm...@gmail.com
Is the water corroding the edge?
Could they make razors with carbide?
Ed Huntress
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> Is there some abrasive in my beard?
> Is the water corroding the edge?
>
> Could they make razors with carbide?
Gillette (one of my former customers) says that an average beard has
machining properties similar to those of copper wire. <g>
My guess is that it doesn't abrade so much as it overstresses the very fine
and therefore weak edge. The steel also corrodes -- even stainless. They've
used chrome plating and that helps somewhat.
Anyone old enough to remember blue blades knows that they've made a lot of
progress in the years since. They were made of very high-carbon steel,
hardened to within an inch of its life, and it was rare to get more than two
shaves out of a double-edged blade.
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Ignoramus7894
When I used Gillette blades (Mach3?), they would wear out in two weeks.
Now I use Schick Quattro blades and they last me 6 months.
It is nothing short of amazing.
i
sta...@prolynx.com
wrote:
The Fusion blade carts last me a couple of months of daily use, each.
Have a blue strip on them, when that's gone, it's definitely time to
change it. Downside is that they're about 3-4 bucks apiece. Used to
get a couple of weeks out of the old double-edge jobbies, but those
last shaves weren't anything great. A 10 pack was about $6-7 last
time I got some. They would still rust, so probably the edge
deteriorated from both wear and corrosion. Don't seem to have that
with the Fusion blades. Probably a higher chrome content and/or more
exotic additives. The b-in-l says the Fusion carts only last him a
week, tops. Difference in beards, I guess. He said he only got about
1-2 shaves off a blade before the Fusion. Guess he grows steel wool.
Stan
Mark Rand
I use a pair of scissors to trim my beard. They don't seem to wear out at all.
Can be sharpened with a few strokes of a stone. Only need using every couple
of weeks as well :-)
Mark Rand
RTFM
Snag
I use a little battery powered clipper . I'm on my second in ...17 years I
think it is now .
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Steve Lusardi
of the blades to have a short life. Try using normal bar soap. It lubricates much better and will double blade life.
Steve
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Wes
Wimps, I just use a bic lighter. ;)
Wes
David R.Birch
When I started shaving in the '60's, I honed the double edged blades
on glass after I was done, this usually tripled the life of the edge
so a blade lasted 8+ shaves, and I don't have soft whiskers.
One day, I put in a "new" blade and it cut like I'd been chopping cane
with it. Seems my younger sister had borrowed it, then put it back...
Much easier in the last 35+ years since I last shaved. I've lost count
of the revolutions in shaving tech I've missed.
David
Ed Huntress
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Something like that almost cost me my marriage, shortly after I was married.
<g> Somehow my wife's legs gave that blade an edge that turned my neck into
hamburger.
Michael A. Terrell
"David R.Birch" wrote:
>
> When I started shaving in the '60's, I honed the double edged blades
> on glass after I was done, this usually tripled the life of the edge
> so a blade lasted 8+ shaves, and I don't have soft whiskers.
>
> One day, I put in a "new" blade and it cut like I'd been chopping cane
> with it. Seems my younger sister had borrowed it, then put it back...
>
> Much easier in the last 35+ years since I last shaved. I've lost count
> of the revolutions in shaving tech I've missed.
When I had to start shaving I would get one or two shaves before the
blade was too dull to use again. I had to shave four times a day in
basic to keep the little baldfaced, brand new D.I. happy.
--
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dan
old rec.crafts.metalworking mine and will die if we don't mount a
rescue by Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:14:32 -0700 (PDT):
>Is there some abrasive in my beard?
>Is the water corroding the edge?
>
I've heard that if you dry them after use they last longer. I shake
out my mach3 and prop it on edge. Seems to last longer.
--
Dan H.
northshore MA.
Jon Anderson
> Anyone old enough to remember blue blades knows that they've made a lot of
> progress in the years since. They were made of very high-carbon steel,
> hardened to within an inch of its life, and it was rare to get more than two
> shaves out of a double-edged blade.
I've just turned to DE shaving after finally getting disgusted at the
escalating feature/blade/price creep of cartridge razors. Getting hard
to find the Sensor Excel blades locally that I've been using the past
few years, started buying them in lots on ebay. Last batch is shit, I'm
wondering if I just got a bad batch or counterfeits. Regardless, even
the good ones only gave 4-5 shaves at best for a cost of around .20/shave.
Setting up for DE shaving entailed up front costs, but I got a lot of 50
blades for about $8 and so far look to get 3-4 shaves each for a cost of
around .06/shave. So in the first year I'll more than amortize the whole
setup. Biggest downside is I can't just shave blind in the shower
anymore, one does have to pay attention to blade angle with a DE razor,
but I've yet to nick myself. (though to be fair, the razor I selected is
not aggressive at all. Biggest upside besides the cost savings is
getting a much better shave.
Jon
Ignoramus7894
> Ed Huntress wrote:
>
>> Anyone old enough to remember blue blades knows that they've made a lot of
>> progress in the years since. They were made of very high-carbon steel,
>> hardened to within an inch of its life, and it was rare to get more than two
>> shaves out of a double-edged blade.
>
> I've just turned to DE shaving after finally getting disgusted at the
> escalating feature/blade/price creep of cartridge razors. Getting hard
Did you try schick quattro , if not, you must. I have and I am no
longer disgusted, they last half a year each for me.
i
Joseph Gwinn
wrote:
I find this to be true.
I wash the blade out with hot water, dry it by smacking against the heel of my
palm, and store blades up, so water will pull away from the vulnerable edge.
This greatly extends the lifetime of the razor, which implies that corrosion of
the edge is the key issue.
As for Gillette, I suspect that they are herding their users. Each year, the
blades get a little worse - they are cutting costs and performance by omitting
steps one by one, to convince you to move to the latest and greatest.
Joe Gwinn
Jon Anderson
> If you use those shaving creams/foams/gels, they also help to erode the
> blade edge. It is very advantageous for the manufacturer of the blades
> to have a short life. Try using normal bar soap. It lubricates much
> better and will double blade life.
A proper shaving cream or soap will FAR outperform anything I've ever
used from a can. As previously noted, I've gone retro and just started
shaving with DE razors. Got some Proraso and a badger bristle shaving
brush. GOOD stuff. Was just in Santa Cruz for a couple days, and used
the Proraso, but brought cartridge razors for convenience. I'll say that
the twin blade Sensor Excel gave a far better shave with the Proraso
than I ever got with any other foam or gel. And I've tried bar soap too.
And while I'm commenting, let me rant on the Save-a-Blade. Actually
that's what got me into DE shaving. Wasn't going to pay $19.95 for one,
but saw one at a discount outlet for $5 and thought I'd give it a try.
Mentioned buying it to my Aussie wife and she asked me to get several
more as they were just introduced to Oz via TV and cost a bloody
fortune. Discount store was out, so looked for them on Amazon and upon
reading the reviews, learned few people have any luck with them. One
review in particular touted the overall low cost of DE shaving, and
that's what got me going in that direction, being a part-time
cheapskate.... Anyway, I looked into the Save-a-Blade I'd bought. First
attempts showed zero contact with the blade when inspecting with a
microscope. But hadn't read the directions, and had the blade in the
wrong position. Tried again, and found contact from the sandpaper along
maybe 10% of the cutting edge of one blade after a good 10 second run.
My reviews can be found on Amazon if you look up the Save-a-Blade. Piece
of crap IMHO, though some reviewers do rave about it. Go figure...
Jon
Larry Jaques
"clarkm...@gmail.com" <clarkm...@gmail.com> scrawled the
following:
>Is there some abrasive in my beard?
Yes. Keratin is tough stuff. Oils in your hair collect dirt and
minerals, too.
>Is the water corroding the edge?
Yes, as are your facial oils and sweat. And the steel is extremely
thin, the edge very fine.
>Could they make razors with carbide?
Dunno. I think steels have a finer crystalline structure for better
edges. If they could make them, they'd be a whole lot pricier than
carbon steels.
--
If we attend continually and promptly to the little that we can do, we
shall ere long be surprised to find how little remains that we cannot do.
-- Samuel Butler
Larry Jaques
<clu...@lycos.com> scrawled the following:
My propane torch is quicker. On relaxed Sundays, I use 320 grit
sandpaper in a leisurely way.
(In reality, I use a Norelco electric, as blade razors abuse my
sensitive skin. I think I gave up straight razors because they took
too long, even though I don't think they abused me as much.)
Jon Anderson
> Did you try schick quattro , if not, you must. I have and I am no
> longer disgusted, they last half a year each for me.
I've got pretty tough hair, I doubt I'd get anywhere close to that.
Besides, I'm sorta enjoying the ritual of doing it the semi-old
fashioned way.
And if Schick finds out the Quattro lasts that long for enough folks,
they'll either raise the price even more or find a way to shorten blade
life...
Jon
John
The fusion blades at say, $4.00 each divided by 60 days comes to a
hair over 6 cents a day. The double edge at say, $6.50 for ten, $0.65
each, divided by say 5 days (which I can't remember getting) was what?
13 cents a day. Now, if you factor in inflation, or even if you don't
the high priced spread is still cheaper. Besides, with the Fusion,
even when the blades are getting old, one can still shave without
flinches and cries of pain :-)
John B.
Ignoramus7894
So far, I have been very happy with Schick and they have not screwed
me yet.In fact, right now I am looking at byuing Energizer Holdings
stock. ENR owns the Schick brand.
i
Steve W.
Used to use only blades. Now I use a Norelco electric.
Does a good job as long as I use it daily.
Steve W.
Don Foreman
My dad had a hand-cranked blue-blade stropping machine. He got dozens
of shaves from a blue blade. This was just after WW II when some
commodities (razor blades, nails) were still in short supply
Too_Many_Tools
> <clarkmagnu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
fyi...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Razor_blade_steel
TMT
cavelamb
You don't know how lucky you are,
I shaved four times in Basic Training!
Heck. I was forty years old before I had to shave every day.
You think your chain saw beards are tough?
BWahhhhahhhhahhhha!
My fuzz, even now (60 bleeping years old) is so fine
that my beard slides out of the way of 16 edged razors!
Hell fires, boys.
I shave with a straight razor once a month!
It's the only way to get those delicate fine hairs cut offa
my face.
Otherwise, I'd look like Ho Che Min!
Day-am!
cavelamb
I hear ya, Jon!
Ya'll pud knocker read this...
http://artofmanliness.com/2008/01/04/how-to-shave-like-your-grandpa/
Proper shaving has become a lost art. Today’s average male has no clue about the
fine art of the traditional wet shave that their grandfathers and some of their
fathers used to take part in. Instead, they’re only accustomed to the cheap and
disposable shaving products that companies market. I’m not sure when or why it
happened, but the tradition of passing down the secrets of a clean shave
abruptly stopped. Thankfully, this glorious male ritual is making a comeback.
Benefits of The Classic Wet Shave
Reduce costs. An 8 pack of your typical four blade cartridge razors can set you
back over $20. $20! That’s $2.50 per cartridge. The cost of a double edged
safety razor is no more than $.25. You can save some serious money switching
over to a safety razor. Additionally, you can save money by using traditional
shaving creams and soaps. A can of the chemically packed gel goop that most drug
stores sell can cost you up to $5 a can and it doesn’t even last that long and
they don’t give you a quality shave. On the other hand, traditional shave creams
and soaps are made out of natural materials. While their up front cost may be a
bit more than shaving gels, you require less product to get a proper lather.
Thus, you end up saving more in the long run.
--
Richard Lamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/
cavelamb
I gave my double edged hande to a girlfriend who (was smarter than me?)
wanted it.
And found they can't be bought any more.
Anybody got a spare???
Ed Huntress
"Don Foreman" <dfor...@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> wrote in message
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Someone else mentioned the water glass trick, which was sometimes augmented
with a little aluminum oxide flour, but the neatest thing was those little
hard Arkansas stones with a gentle hollow in them. You pressed down in the
middle of the blade, bending it slightly with two fingers, and gently worked
it around the stone.
I never had one of my own, but then stainless blades came out, and I quit
using blue blades.
--
Ed Huntress
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>
>I gave my double edged hande to a girlfriend who (was smarter than me?)
>wanted it.
>
>And found they can't be bought any more.
>
>Anybody got a spare???
"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.
This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost
Jim Wilkins
> If you use those shaving creams/foams/gels, they also help to erode the blade edge. It is very advantageous for the manufacturer
> of the blades to have a short life. Try using normal bar soap. It lubricates much better and will double blade life.
> Steve
Ivory bar soap applied with a badger brush. Hose out the razor with
the WaterPic afterwards.
jsw
John
wrote:
>Joseph Gwinn wrote:
I think you can still buy them in here Thailand. At least every barber
shop has the blades - they break them in half and put them in a
"straight razor" sort of handle to shave around you ears.
The AIDS scare had at least one benefit - I now get shaved with a new
blade :-)
John B.
John
I had a Rolls Razor - looked like a chunk of straight razor blade with
a handle on it. It came in a case with a strop on one side and a home
on the other. British made and I used it for years.
John B.
Ed Huntress
"Jim Wilkins" <kb1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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As I read these tips I remember a radio jingle for McCulloch chain saws,
about a lumberjack who used one to shave his beard. <g>
They just don't make jingles like that anymore. It must have been around
1958.
--
Ed Huntress
Jon Anderson
> I gave my double edged hande to a girlfriend who (was smarter than me?)
> wanted it.
>
> And found they can't be bought any more.
>
> Anybody got a spare???
Amazon has lots of razors, and there are many places that sell. I bought
a Weishi on ebay, but once I'm more comfortable I'll try stepping up to
a Merkur. Ebay has a fair selection of vintage used razors.
Jon
Jon Anderson
> I had a Rolls Razor - looked like a chunk of straight razor blade with
> a handle on it. It came in a case with a strop on one side and a home
> on the other. British made and I used it for years.
I've got one of those! And it will still shave nicely, but man, better
pay attention to blade angle. I did manage to cut myself pretty good
with mine many years ago.
Jon
ala...@iinet.net.oz
wrote:
>
>I had a Rolls Razor - looked like a chunk of straight razor blade with
>a handle on it. It came in a case with a strop on one side and a home
>on the other. British made and I used it for years.
>
I have one, it was my father's, which I occasionally use if I do
not shave for longer than a week. Normally I use a Philips
rechargeable daily but over 2 days the Philips stalls on my beard.
Easiest way is use a Remington groomer after 2 days and finish with
the Philips.
I have not used blades for about 50 years, they used to cut my skin
and it swelled and bled profusely.
Alan
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"Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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>
> One day, I put in a "new" blade and it cut like I'd been
> chopping cane
> with it. Seems my younger sister had borrowed it, then put
> it back...
Something like that almost cost me my marriage, shortly
after I was married.
<g> Somehow my wife's legs gave that blade an edge that
turned my neck into
hamburger.
Stormin Mormon
excellent. Mine (takes one AA cell) actually works better
than my plug in shaver.
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"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote in
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When I had to start shaving I would get one or two shaves
before the
blade was too dull to use again. I had to shave four times a
day in
basic to keep the little baldfaced, brand new D.I. happy.
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watch this!'
Stormin Mormon
show.
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"dan" <no...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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I've heard that if you dry them after use they last longer.
I shake
out my mach3 and prop it on edge. Seems to last longer.
--
Dan H.
northshore MA.
Stormin Mormon
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>
>Now I use Schick Quattro blades and they last me 6 months.
>
>It is nothing short of amazing.
Wimps, I just use a bic lighter. ;)
Wes
Stormin Mormon
mouth?
I do think that rinsing out the blade, and hang the shaver
to dry is a good idea.
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> of the blades to have a short life. Try using normal bar
Stormin Mormon
Demento, back in the eighties.
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Ed Huntress
"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Did you buy her "her very own" pink razor?
I made her buy her own damned pink razor. And a mint-colored one. d8-)
Jim Wilkins
<cayoung61**spambloc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Before or after you get all that water pic soap in your
> mouth?
>
> Ivory bar soap applied with a badger brush. Hose out the
> razor with
> the WaterPic afterwards.
>
> jsw
You put soap in yours? Mine tastes like Jameson.
jsw
Michael A. Terrell
Stormin Mormon wrote:
>
> Remington makes some battery shavers who which are really
> excellent. Mine (takes one AA cell) actually works better
> than my plug in shaver.
I had a Norelco AC shaver, but wasn't alowed to use it while in Basic
Training. I would wear out a set of heads in well under a year. I wore
out the shaver in under two years. I washed my face and used a preshave
lotion every time, and cleaned it after every shave, but it didn't
last. This was almost 40 years ago.
DoN. Nichols
I've still got two -- one complete and one with one missing
part, the formed spring around the rolling shaft which sets the honing
and stropping tension and keeps the blade properly oriented during the
honing and stropping..
You did not mention that not only did this include the strop and
the hone, but the frame in which the blade was stored was designed to
move the blade edge leading along the hone, and edge trailing along the
strop. The hone and the strop were each mounted in a cover which went
on *only* the proper side of the case, so you could not wind up pushing
the blade into the strop.
The handle stored between the loops of the hone/strop actuator
handle when it was all packaged.
It is still good -- but I'm no longer a good test, as even a
blue blade would have lasted now about 28 years or so -- it has been
that long since I last shaved. :-)
Enjoy,
DoN.
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> Ed Huntress wrote:
>
>> Anyone old enough to remember blue blades knows that they've made a lot of
>> progress in the years since.
[ ... ]
> I've just turned to DE shaving after finally getting disgusted at the
> escalating feature/blade/price creep of cartridge razors. Getting hard
[ ... ]
> Setting up for DE shaving entailed up front costs, but I got a lot of 50
> blades for about $8 and so far look to get 3-4 shaves each for a cost of
> around .06/shave. So in the first year I'll more than amortize the whole
> setup. Biggest downside is I can't just shave blind in the shower
> anymore, one does have to pay attention to blade angle with a DE razor,
> but I've yet to nick myself. (though to be fair, the razor I selected is
> not aggressive at all. Biggest upside besides the cost savings is
> getting a much better shave.
My step grandfather had an interesting razor for DE blades back
in the 1950s. It had a very fat handle with a fatter knob on the bottom.
You wound it up, and while you shaved it spun an eccentric weight near
the blade end causing a vibration which improved the shaving action.
I looked for it when I cleaned up his house after he passed on,
and did not find it, so it must have finally died -- or been replaced by
an electric.
Przemek Klosowski
> Gillette (one of my former customers) says that an average beard has
> machining properties similar to those of copper wire. <g>
>
> My guess is that it doesn't abrade so much as it overstresses the very
> fine and therefore weak edge. The steel also corrodes -- even stainless.
> They've used chrome plating and that helps somewhat.
I heard about arm-stroping, and tried it on a disposable razor I use
in the shower, and I think it actually worked! The idea is to strope
the blade (drag it up the back of your forearm, of course in the opposite
direction to the normal shaving movement). About 10 times is as much as
I had patience for, and the blade seemed to shave better, unless I am
deluding myself. I will have better data after I do it for a week or so.
Please give it a shot and report what you think about it.
Gerald Miller
My Dad taught me that trick, only on the palm of the hand - he got the
information from a barber who did the final strop of the straight
razor on his palm. I use trac II and hopefully have an adequate supply
but will still buy them at yard sales.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada
John
I used it when I was in the A.F. Never had to worry about 5 o'clock
shadow :-)
John B.
John
I remember going on trips (sometimes as much as 60 miles, to
Grandpa's) and reading the Burma-Shave jingles, one line on each
signboard.
John B.
Joseph Gwinn
"Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net> wrote:
> "Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hob93d$v7v$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> > Did you buy her "her very own" pink razor?
>
> I made her buy her own damned pink razor. And a mint-colored one. d8-)
Yeah. I recall reading a cover article in Cosmo (while in line at the
supermarket some years ago) advising the young ladies that yes your man *can*
tell if you use his razor to shave your legs, so don't do it without permission
and especially don't lie if you did use it - too much relationship damage will
result.
My wife already had her own razor, so no crisis erupted.
Joe Gwinn
Jon Anderson
> My step grandfather had an interesting razor for DE blades back
> in the 1950s. It had a very fat handle with a fatter knob on the bottom.
> You wound it up, and while you shaved it spun an eccentric weight near
> the blade end causing a vibration which improved the shaving action.
Too bad it disappeared, that would be a cool item just to have.
Jon
Pinstripe Sniper
This seems to be a popular/widespread belief. Seems pausible to me
but I do wonder if this is one of those "it's been repeated so many
times, it became true."
Easy enough for most of us to do comparisons at home. I wonder if
Mythbusters would take a go at it? Might be too "dull?" <= yuk yuk
I wonder if they could come up with a reason to blow something up
anyway.
Here's a couple of the many web writeups about this:
http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=53716&page=6
http://www.squidoo.com/extend-razorblade-life
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>"clarkm...@gmail.com" <clarkm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>Is the water corroding the edge?
>
>This seems to be a popular/widespread belief. Seems pausible to me
"plausible" <cough>
Ed Huntress
"DoN. Nichols" <dnic...@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
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Brookstone sold one like that for many years.
--
Ed Huntress
Ed Huntress
"Przemek Klosowski" <prz...@tux.dot.org> wrote in message
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Well, I don't use those things anymore. I use the multi-blade disposables.
The ones with three blades seem to be the best compromise for me. Five
blades drag too much.
But I still have my straight razor and strop, which I used when I had a
beard. Every once in a while I drag it out, along with the soap mug and
badger brush, for old-time's sake. I do check my health insurance before
using it, in case I sneeze. <g>
--
Ed Huntress
Ed Huntress
"John" <johnbs...@invalid.com> wrote in message
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I still love those things.
--
Ed Huntress
Robert Nichols
> On 2010-03-23, Jon Anderson<jande...@comcast.net> wrote:
> My step grandfather had an interesting razor for DE blades back
> in the 1950s. It had a very fat handle with a fatter knob on the bottom.
> You wound it up, and while you shaved it spun an eccentric weight near
> the blade end causing a vibration which improved the shaving action.
I used one of those for a while, till the mechanism froze up, IIRC. It
seemed to work marginally better than an ordinary double edge razor, but
lacked the "adjustable" feature of the Gillette double edge razors of
the time.
--
Bob Nichols AT comcast.net I am "RNichols42"
DoN. Nichols
>
> "DoN. Nichols" <dnic...@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
> news:slrnhqj4ve....@Katana.d-and-d.com...
[ ... ]
>> My step grandfather had an interesting razor for DE blades back
>> in the 1950s. It had a very fat handle with a fatter knob on the bottom.
>> You wound it up, and while you shaved it spun an eccentric weight near
>> the blade end causing a vibration which improved the shaving action.
>>
>> I looked for it when I cleaned up his house after he passed on,
>> and did not find it, so it must have finally died -- or been replaced by
>> an electric.
[ ... ]
> Brookstone sold one like that for many years.
Hmm ... he had his long before Brookstone started business.
Double hmm ... Wikipedia says that they started with mail order
from classified ads in the back of Popular Mechanics back in 1965, but
this is still later than the one which I saw. I wonder how
similar/different these were?
I used to *like* Brookstone -- back when they actually had the
useful "hard to find tools" which they advertised. There is now very
little in the way of useful tools, unfortunately.
Roger Shoaf
<clarkm...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Is there some abrasive in my beard?
> Is the water corroding the edge?
Bingo! The razor does not appreciably dull from actual use, as the hair is
a whole lot softer than the steel.
If you clean it well in fresh water then give it a blast of dry air with the
hair dryer followed with either a shot of WD40 or dunk it in vegitable oil
you can get over six months according to the super cheap skates.
Myself I use the Gillette disposables. The old one is in the shower and I
whack off the bulk of the beard there and then I do the final in the mirror
with the newer one. When the old one gets a little grabby, I toss it and
replace the shower razor with the one from the sink.
When I rinse them I just give them a shake and I don't sweat over anything.
Even so I only break out one or two new ones a month, so the box of 52 I get
at Costco lasts me years. No shaving cream just a wet face.
I actually would prefer having a nice permanant razor with replacable
blades, but the disposables are actually cheaper than the replacement blades
so I never made the switch.
>
> Could they make razors with carbide?
The could but the real benefit to carbide is its resistance to high heat not
really an issue with razor blades and the edge would probably still dull and
drag the old whiskers in short order.
--
Roger Shoaf
About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.
Roger Shoaf
"Don Foreman" <dfor...@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> wrote in message
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>
> My dad had a hand-cranked blue-blade stropping machine. He got dozens
> of shaves from a blue blade. This was just after WW II when some
> commodities (razor blades, nails) were still in short supply
My dad had one of those also. He stopped using those when they came out
with stainless and abandoned those when they came out with the twin blade.
I think my Brother ended up with the stropper.
mike
Roger Shoaf wrote:
> <clarkm...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:97e24b3f-353b-4b01...@k24g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
> > Is there some abrasive in my beard?
> > Is the water corroding the edge?
>
> Bingo! The razor does not appreciably dull from actual use, as the hair is
> a whole lot softer than the steel.
>
> If you clean it well in fresh water then give it a blast of dry air with the
> hair dryer followed with either a shot of WD40 or dunk it in vegitable oil
> you can get over six months according to the super cheap skates.
>
One thing that I noticed to give me several months out of each
disposable blade
cartridge, was leaving the shaving lather to sit in place for a couple
minutes before
taking razor to it - (I keep a beard, so am talking about shaving only
neck and
cheeks). Also, rinse the razor in COLD water after every couple
strokes, saw that
in a movie once 8^).
Mike
Winston
(...)
> One thing that I noticed to give me several months out of each
> disposable blade
> cartridge, was leaving the shaving lather to sit in place for a couple
> minutes before
> taking razor to it -
Yup! I lather up and walk down the hall to boot up the computer.
Returning to the bathroom, I'm ready for a close, nick - free shave.
If I just start shaving, I can scratch myself up pretty good.
(...)
> Also, rinse the razor in COLD water after every couple
> strokes, saw that
> in a movie once 8^).
As a yout, I was getting only 2-3 shaves per Trac II cartridge even
with aggressive rinsing. I ran a lot of water down the vents in
the back of the cartridge, too. On inspection, I found that the 'vents'
were completely blind and without function. I also found
that the cartridge was loading up very quickly; the clogged shavings were
holding the blade off my skin! I now clean my razor in an ultrasonic
bath every day and average > 7 shaves per blade.
I was starting to panic when running low on my favorite 'unobtanium'
Trac II cartridges until I stumbled across American Safety Razor Personna
_TwinII Plus_ cartridges for cheap on eBay. (See item 350333133296)
They work just as good as the old name brand blades.
U$0.45 each, (delivered) and Made In U.S.A.!
--Winston
--
Today's retailer is in an awkward position.
He must assuage his visceral need to anger
some of his clients while having to delight
them sufficiently to guarantee repeat business.
mike
Winston wrote:
> Yup! I lather up and walk down the hall to boot up the computer.
> Returning to the bathroom, I'm ready for a close, nick - free shave.
> If I just start shaving, I can scratch myself up pretty good.
>
> (...)
>
Yeah, much more pain-free here, too...
>
> As a yout, I was getting only 2-3 shaves per Trac II cartridge even
> with aggressive rinsing. I ran a lot of water down the vents in
> the back of the cartridge, too. On inspection, I found that the 'vents'
> were completely blind and without function. I also found
> that the cartridge was loading up very quickly;
Hmm, I've never looked that closely, in fact I can't look that
closely, anymore 8^(
> the clogged shavings were
> holding the blade off my skin! I now clean my razor in an ultrasonic
> bath every day and average > 7 shaves per blade.
Ha, another reason I should get me one of those cleaners, thanks!
>
> I was starting to panic when running low on my favorite 'unobtanium'
> Trac II cartridges until I stumbled across American Safety Razor Personna
> _TwinII Plus_ cartridges for cheap on eBay. (See item 350333133296)
>
> They work just as good as the old name brand blades.
>
> U$0.45 each, (delivered) and Made In U.S.A.!
>
> --Winston
Mike
Terry
wrote:
>
>As a yout, I was getting only 2-3 shaves per Trac II cartridge even
>with aggressive rinsing. I ran a lot of water down the vents in
>the back of the cartridge, too. On inspection, I found that the 'vents'
>were completely blind and without function. I also found
>that the cartridge was loading up very quickly; the clogged shavings were
>holding the blade off my skin! I now clean my razor in an ultrasonic
>bath every day and average > 7 shaves per blade.
Schick makes a two-blade razor with a push-thingy (technical term :-))
that lets you push the bits of beard out from between the blades.
Works a treat.
--
Terry
Winston
(...)
> Hmm, I've never looked that closely, in fact I can't look that
> closely, anymore 8^(
I never could! I have a nice lens salvaged from a scrapped page scanner.
Made the beard chunks look like pencils, it did.
(...)
> Ha, another reason I should get me one of those cleaners, thanks!
Shore. My Branson B200 still works well after about a decade.
See eBay 360242033356 for example.
I just plop in the razor after shaving and press the 'go' button.
It shuts itself off in a couple minutes. I just rinse the tank
and refill every week or so.
I don't even add any 'cleaner solution'.
Easy peasy.
--Winston
Winston
I'm happy with my buzz-thingamabob. :)
--Winston
Larry Jaques
<Win...@bigbrother.net> scrawled the following:
Ditto my Norelco buzz-thingamabob. I spend 30 seconds shaving each
morning. ;) I don't have much of a bushy face, though.
I think I quit with the straight razor because it took so long, but
that was decades ago and I had very little fur then, too.
--
Everything I did in my life that was worthwhile I caught hell for.
-- Earl Warren
Winston
> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:49:48 -0700, the infamous Winston
> <Win...@bigbrother.net> scrawled the following:
>> I'm happy with my buzz-thingamabob. :)
That would be my ultrasonic cleaner, dontcha know.
> Ditto my Norelco buzz-thingamabob. I spend 30 seconds shaving each
> morning. ;) I don't have much of a bushy face, though.
I owned a couple of them Norelcos.
Didn't have much luck getting a close enough shave.
Course, I get a 5 O'clock shadow at 1:30 PM so perhaps I
asked too much of them...
--Winston
mike
Winston wrote:
> On 3/29/2010 4:33 AM, mike wrote:
> > Ha, another reason I should get me one of those cleaners, thanks!
>
> Shore. My Branson B200 still works well after about a decade.
> See eBay 360242033356 for example.
I had a look, also did a froogle-google search, I hadn't realized the
prices were becoming so affordable.
Just wondering , is the capacity, both volume and wattage, suitable
for most anything you've wanted to use it for?
Any caveats on what brands to avoid? I see HF Tools has a 2.5
liter one on sale for $80, which I think has been discussed here
before, I wonder if anyone has used it, and is
there any good reason to go with a bigger capacity such as
that one (item 95563), or a good reason to steer clear of it
rather than become the 'product tester' myself: or, is that
much more volume overkill - I know, I know, that's one of those ?'s
that may warrant an answer such as 'well, it depends...', just
thought I'd ask ...)
>
> I just plop in the razor after shaving and press the 'go' button.
> It shuts itself off in a couple minutes. I just rinse the tank
> and refill every week or so.
> I don't even add any 'cleaner solution'.
>
> Easy peasy.
Definitely sounds like a handy thing to have around.
>
> --Winston
Winston
>
>
> Winston wrote:
>> On 3/29/2010 4:33 AM, mike wrote:
>
>>> Ha, another reason I should get me one of those cleaners, thanks!
>>
>> Shore. My Branson B200 still works well after about a decade.
>> See eBay 360242033356 for example.
>
> I had a look, also did a froogle-google search, I hadn't realized the
> prices were becoming so affordable.
>
> Just wondering , is the capacity, both volume and wattage, suitable
> for most anything you've wanted to use it for?
Most anything, yes.
Occasionally I get a gunky part that begs for the ultrasound
treatment but is much too big for the little B200.
Sometimes I lean it in anyway and do just a section at a time.
It is just like most any tool. A month after I buy one, I
wonder why I didn't get the bigger one in the first place!
> Any caveats on what brands to avoid? I see HF Tools has a 2.5
> liter one on sale for $80, which I think has been discussed here
> before, I wonder if anyone has used it, and is
> there any good reason to go with a bigger capacity such as
> that one (item 95563), or a good reason to steer clear of it
> rather than become the 'product tester' myself: or, is that
> much more volume overkill - I know, I know, that's one of those ?'s
> that may warrant an answer such as 'well, it depends...', just
> thought I'd ask ...)
Doubtless someone will pipe up with other recommendations and
advice. I've exhausted my knowledge on the subject.
That never takes too long!
> Definitely sounds like a handy thing to have around.
That it is.
--Winston
Larry Jaques
<Win...@bigbrother.net> scrawled the following:
>On 3/29/2010 7:15 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:49:48 -0700, the infamous Winston
>> <Win...@bigbrother.net> scrawled the following:
>
>>> I'm happy with my buzz-thingamabob. :)
>
>That would be my ultrasonic cleaner, dontcha know.
>
>> Ditto my Norelco buzz-thingamabob. I spend 30 seconds shaving each
>> morning. ;) I don't have much of a bushy face, though.
>
>I owned a couple of them Norelcos.
>
>Didn't have much luck getting a close enough shave.
>
>Course, I get a 5 O'clock shadow at 1:30 PM so perhaps I
>asked too much of them...
You forgot to spend 3 minutes shaving at lunch is all. I'm sure glad I
don't have YOUR beard. Salt and Pepper peach fuzz suits me better.
Przemek Klosowski
>> I heard about arm-stroping, and tried it on a disposable razor I use in
>> the shower, and I think it actually worked! The idea is to strope the
>> blade (drag it up the back of your forearm, of course in the opposite
>> direction to the normal shaving movement). About 10 times is as much as
>> I had patience for, and the blade seemed to shave better, unless I am
>> deluding myself. I will have better data after I do it for a week or
>> so. Please give it a shot and report what you think about it.
>
> Well, I don't use those things anymore. I use the multi-blade
> disposables.
Oh, but I do it to the multi-blade disposables---sorry, I wasn't clear
about it in my original quote. I never used a straight razor, and I
think it's too late to start now :)
Ed Huntress
Aha! Well, I'll have to give that one a try. Even though my beard is almost
all white now, and not quite as stiff as it once was, it's still hell on
blades.
--
Ed Huntress
jeff_wisnia
I hadn't noticed until recently that the "straight razor" my barber uses
on the back of my neck near the end of a haircut visit isn't what I
remember from the olde daze, it looks the same from a distance, but it
has replaceable blades which slide into a metal spine. No more do I see
the barbers stropping with a flair.
(Anybody here remember when a "singe" was a fairly standard part of a
man's haircut. The barber would lift up bunches of your hair with a comb
while using the flame from a skinny taper (candle) to burn off any split
ends.)
I started shaving about 60 years ago using a "safety razor" and double
edged Gillette "Blue Blades" until the first Wilkenson Sword stainless
steel blades landed on this side of the pond in limited quantities. I
remember how guys scurried to obtain them so they could proudly claim to
be one of the first using them.
Back then there was info being bandied around that you could "hone" the
edges of those double edged safety razor blades by sweeping them around
the curved inner surface of a drinking glass. I tried it a couple of
times but never noticed any improvement.
Thanks for the mammaries,
Jeff
--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10e12 furlongs per fortnight.
DanG
weed eaten down, but I too remember and started with the double
edge system. I went to the Schick injector blades - in fact still
have them.
Double edge blades must have been very costly back when. My dad -
90 this year- has collected shaving memorabilia. He has over 27
different machines made for sharpening/honing double edge blades.
28+ if you count a glass.
--
______________________________
Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG (remove the sevens)
dgri...@7cox.net
"jeff_wisnia" <jwisnia...@conversent.net> wrote in message
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Ed Huntress
I have one of those, too. But they take all the fun out of it, so I never
use it.
>
> (Anybody here remember when a "singe" was a fairly standard part of a
> man's haircut. The barber would lift up bunches of your hair with a comb
> while using the flame from a skinny taper (candle) to burn off any split
> ends.)
I remember seeing it but not having it done to me.
William Wixon
"DanG" <dgri...@7cox.net> wrote in message
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> Jeff, I wear a beard and use an old straight razor to keep things weed
> eaten down, but I too remember and started with the double edge system. I
> went to the Schick injector blades - in fact still have them.
>
> Double edge blades must have been very costly back when. My dad - 90 this
> year- has collected shaving memorabilia. He has over 27 different
> machines made for sharpening/honing double edge blades. 28+ if you count a
> glass.
>
> --
> ______________________________
> Keep the whole world singing . . . .
> DanG (remove the sevens)
> dgri...@7cox.net
>
>
>
> "jeff_wisnia" <jwisnia...@conversent.net> wrote in message
> news:MN6dnd3-nsqZj07W...@giganews.com...
>>
>> I hadn't noticed until recently that the "straight razor" my barber uses
>> on the back of my neck near the end of a haircut visit isn't what I
>> remember from the olde daze, it looks the same from a distance, but it
>> has replaceable blades which slide into a metal spine. No more do I see
>> the barbers stropping with a flair.
>>
>> (Anybody here remember when a "singe" was a fairly standard part of a
>> man's haircut. The barber would lift up bunches of your hair with a comb
>> while using the flame from a skinny taper (candle) to burn off any split
>> ends.)
>>
>> I started shaving about 60 years ago using a "safety razor" and double
>> edged Gillette "Blue Blades" until the first Wilkenson Sword stainless
>> steel blades landed on this side of the pond in limited quantities. I
>> remember how guys scurried to obtain them so they could proudly claim to
>> be one of the first using them.
>>
>> Back then there was info being bandied around that you could "hone" the
>> edges of those double edged safety razor blades by sweeping them around
>> the curved inner surface of a drinking glass. I tried it a couple of
>> times but never noticed any improvement.
>>
>> Thanks for the mammaries,
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> --
>> Jeffry Wisnia
>> (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
>> The speed of light is 1.8*10e12 furlongs per fortnight.
hey jeff,
haven't seen you post in a while. hope everything's ok.
i went to china in '86. it's a time warp being there. or, it was a time
warp. they didn't have (as far as i know/knew) disposable razors there. i
had to buy a double edge safety razor to use while i was there. i think
they were blue blades, individually wrapped in waxed paper, really made me
feel like i had traveled back in time. it was fun to be like (however many)
years back in time. the brand of double edge razor they sold there was
called "Rhino", their logo was a rhinoceros with a double edge safety razor
plunging through him and slicing him in half. was kinda a odd logo as far
as i was concerned. knida gross.
b.w.
DoN. Nichols
> Jeff, I wear a beard and use an old straight razor to keep things
> weed eaten down, but I too remember and started with the double
> edge system. I went to the Schick injector blades - in fact still
> have them.
>
> Double edge blades must have been very costly back when. My dad -
> 90 this year- has collected shaving memorabilia. He has over 27
> different machines made for sharpening/honing double edge blades.
> 28+ if you count a glass.
More like during wartime rationing made many things harder to
find -- including razor blades. And the military (which *demanded* a
clean shave had similar problems). My uncle (who was a pilot on the
Forrestal (or some earlier carrier) about Korean war days) showed me
that trick with a glass.
Searcher7
<clarkmagnu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is there some abrasive in my beard?
> Is the water corroding the edge?
>
I have a couple of those "Infinity razors" that were being sold a
couple of years ago. They are supposed to last for life. I've not
gotten around to using them, but from what I've read they are dull to
begin with. So the duller they are, the more difficult it is to make
them duller. So if you are that one in one hundred that these work for
you're in luck. :-)
But for the past five or six years I've been using the Atra cartridges
because I bought about 30 packs at a store that was discontinuing
them. I still have quite a few more to go. :-)
Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
KG
>Jeff, I wear a beard and use an old straight razor to keep things
>weed eaten down, but I too remember and started with the double
>edge system. I went to the Schick injector blades - in fact still
>have them.
>
>Double edge blades must have been very costly back when. My dad -
>90 this year- has collected shaving memorabilia. He has over 27
>different machines made for sharpening/honing double edge blades.
>28+ if you count a glass.
One further hint when storing the razor store it with the sharp edge up, water or moisture will not
accumulate on the edge and corrode it. That makes a noticeable difference to me.
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> Is there some abrasive in my beard?
> Is the water corroding the edge?
>
> Could they make razors with carbide?
(To avoid the accusations of trolling, this was said in good fun. Don't misinterpret my intent with the wrong tone.)
Jon Danniken
render them useless after a time. A suggestion was made to keep a used
blade in solution of something or other (I want to say glycerin, maybe
mineral oil) to keep them fresh.
Jon
Ignoramus8285
Wilkinson Sword blades.
I had the same problems with Gillettes,they would get dull in 2
weeks.I switched to Schick and they easily last 6 months, if not more.
i
gerald...@yahoo.ca
>On Monday, March 22, 2010 1:14:32 PM UTC-5, clarkm...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Is there some abrasive in my beard?
>> Is the water corroding the edge?
>>
>> Could they make razors with carbide?
>
reserved for other uses) before trying to cut facial hair.
>
>(To avoid the accusations of trolling, this was said in good fun. Don't misinterpret my intent with the wrong tone.)
Gerry :-)}
London,Canada
John B.
>On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 10:55:23 -0700 (PDT), mecook...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>On Monday, March 22, 2010 1:14:32 PM UTC-5, clarkm...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Is there some abrasive in my beard?
>>> Is the water corroding the edge?
>>>
>>> Could they make razors with carbide?
>>
>I was taught to "strop" the razor on my left palm (the right is
>reserved for other uses) before trying to cut facial hair.
your butt and thus one eats with the right hand.
--
Cheers,
John B.
Larry Jaques
cheaply made and poorly sharpened.
Switch to a straight razor and keep it stropped. I used to do that
but it became quicker and easier to go to a Norelco Triple Header. I
don't have much facial hair at all, so it works fine for me. My
straight razor is in my BugOutBag, fer sher. (Hmm, I'd best put the
strop in there, too, hadn't I?)
For carbide blades, try the Satanley, but good luck shaving with your
utility knife. <g> http://tinyurl.com/onjv29c
--
[Television is] the triumph of machine over people.
-- Fred Allen
PrecisionmachinisT
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