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Rudy Canoza
Dec 16, 2013, 12:24:37 PM12/16/13
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On 12/8/2013 12:35 PM, BBugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
> The highest minimum wage in a major country is Australia�s
Australia's unemployment rate is *HIGHER* than it would be if they
didn't have their absurd minimum wage. The minimum wage reduces
employment. That's a fact.
To say their unemployment rate is lower than ours "because of" their
high minimum wage is to commit a fundamental logical fallacy: the /post
hoc ergo propter hoc/ fallacy. This is no surprise, as you are
supremely illogical...and stupid. Australia has a fundamentally
different economy and demographics from the U.S., and *no*, their high
minimum wage is not a part of that *fundamental* structural difference.
For example, the agricultural sector in Australia is nearly *FOUR*
times bigger as a percentage of GDP than in the U.S. - 3.9% to 1.1%.
"Industry" is eight percentage points higher in Australia than in the
U.S. - 27.2% vs 19.2% - but *most* of their "industry" is raw materials
extraction for export to China and elsewhere. Australia's public debt
as a percentage of GDP is less than half that of the U.S. - 32.4% vs 70%
for the U.S. These numbers are all publicly available, and are 100%
accurate.
You stupid economics-ignorant fuckstains don't know the facts, *AND* you
commit fundamental logical fallacies. You're wrong because you're
stupid and because you *WANT* to be wrong - something stupid people
often do.
Australia does not have lower unemployment "because of" its minimum wage
- it has lower unemployment because statist/collectivist left-wing
cocksuckers like you haven't ruined its economy. That's simply a fact -
an indisputable fact.
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> The highest minimum wage in a major country is Australia�s
Australia's unemployment rate is *HIGHER* than it would be if they
didn't have their absurd minimum wage. The minimum wage reduces
employment. That's a fact.
To say their unemployment rate is lower than ours "because of" their
high minimum wage is to commit a fundamental logical fallacy: the /post
hoc ergo propter hoc/ fallacy. This is no surprise, as you are
supremely illogical...and stupid. Australia has a fundamentally
different economy and demographics from the U.S., and *no*, their high
minimum wage is not a part of that *fundamental* structural difference.
For example, the agricultural sector in Australia is nearly *FOUR*
times bigger as a percentage of GDP than in the U.S. - 3.9% to 1.1%.
"Industry" is eight percentage points higher in Australia than in the
U.S. - 27.2% vs 19.2% - but *most* of their "industry" is raw materials
extraction for export to China and elsewhere. Australia's public debt
as a percentage of GDP is less than half that of the U.S. - 32.4% vs 70%
for the U.S. These numbers are all publicly available, and are 100%
accurate.
You stupid economics-ignorant fuckstains don't know the facts, *AND* you
commit fundamental logical fallacies. You're wrong because you're
stupid and because you *WANT* to be wrong - something stupid people
often do.
Australia does not have lower unemployment "because of" its minimum wage
- it has lower unemployment because statist/collectivist left-wing
cocksuckers like you haven't ruined its economy. That's simply a fact -
an indisputable fact.
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Free Malware - Bugster Virusworks www.buggycode.com
> --------------------------------------------------------
Siri Cruz
Dec 16, 2013, 12:29:00 PM12/16/13
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In article <35fd6$52af34dd$414e828e$29...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
purchasing power of those people as they starve to death?
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Say it to me what you see.
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Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
> On 12/8/2013 12:35 PM, BBugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
>
> > The highest minimum wage in a major country is Australia�s
> On 12/8/2013 12:35 PM, BBugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
>
>
> Australia's unemployment rate is *HIGHER* than it would be if they
> didn't have their absurd minimum wage. The minimum wage reduces
> employment. That's a fact.
So if we pay workers nothing unemployment should go to zero. What will be the
> Australia's unemployment rate is *HIGHER* than it would be if they
> didn't have their absurd minimum wage. The minimum wage reduces
> employment. That's a fact.
purchasing power of those people as they starve to death?
--
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
Look at me. Who do you see? Who do see?
Say it to me what you see.
I see a girl who looks like pearl. A pearl of a girl.
Rudy Canoza
Dec 16, 2013, 12:32:11 PM12/16/13
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On 12/16/2013 9:29 AM, Siri Cruz wrote:
> In article <35fd6$52af34dd$414e828e$29...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>
>> On 12/8/2013 12:35 PM, BBugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
>>
>>> The highest minimum wage in a major country is Australia�s
>>
>> Australia's unemployment rate is *HIGHER* than it would be if they
>> didn't have their absurd minimum wage. The minimum wage reduces
>> employment. That's a fact.
>
> So if we pay workers nothing unemployment should go to zero.
non sequitur...as usual.
You're one of the absolute economics-illiterates, too. You never took a
course in the subject. You are ignorant and you like it that way.
On 12/16/2013 9:29 AM, Siri Cruz wrote:
> In article <35fd6$52af34dd$414e828e$29...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>
>> On 12/8/2013 12:35 PM, BBugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
>>
>>> The highest minimum wage in a major country is Australia�s
>>
>> Australia's unemployment rate is *HIGHER* than it would be if they
>> didn't have their absurd minimum wage. The minimum wage reduces
>> employment. That's a fact.
>
> So if we pay workers nothing unemployment should go to zero.
You're one of the absolute economics-illiterates, too. You never took a
course in the subject. You are ignorant and you like it that way.
prime cut
Dec 16, 2013, 12:33:07 PM12/16/13
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On 12/16/2013 10:29 AM, Siri Cruz wrote:
> In article <35fd6$52af34dd$414e828e$29...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>
>> On 12/8/2013 12:35 PM, BBugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
>>
>>> The highest minimum wage in a major country is Australia�s
> In article <35fd6$52af34dd$414e828e$29...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>
>> On 12/8/2013 12:35 PM, BBugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
>>
>>
>> Australia's unemployment rate is *HIGHER* than it would be if they
>> didn't have their absurd minimum wage. The minimum wage reduces
>> employment. That's a fact.
>
> So if we pay workers nothing unemployment should go to zero.
Who said "nothing"?
>> Australia's unemployment rate is *HIGHER* than it would be if they
>> didn't have their absurd minimum wage. The minimum wage reduces
>> employment. That's a fact.
>
> So if we pay workers nothing unemployment should go to zero.
Anyone, no one, or just...YOU?
> What will be the
> purchasing power of those people as they starve to death?
http://houston.culturemap.com/news/food/12-28-11-being-a-waiter-is-a-better-job-than-you-think-average-salary-of-49000-a-year-in-houston/
According to SimplyHired.com, the average salary for a waiter in Houston
is $49,000 a year, and some can make a lot more than that.
�I�ve being doing this for 10 years,� says 28-year-old Michael Brand,
who works at the just-opened Triniti. A 2008 graduate of the Conrad N.
Hilton College of Hotel and Restaurant Management at UH, the Houston
native has worked at several restaurants around the city.
�It can be seasonal,� he says, �but I make good money and it�s not the
same ol� same ol�. I never saw myself as a nine to five guy, and in this
job I get to pick my shifts. Plus, there�s the food and beverages. I get
to see and taste things I probably couldn�t afford otherwise.�
dca...@krl.org
Dec 16, 2013, 12:35:14 PM12/16/13
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On Monday, December 16, 2013 12:29:00 PM UTC-5, Siri Cruz wrote:
>
> So if we pay workers nothing unemployment should go to zero. What will be the
>
> purchasing power of those people as they starve to death?
You really do not expect anyone to reply to your post, do you?
>
> So if we pay workers nothing unemployment should go to zero. What will be the
>
> purchasing power of those people as they starve to death?
Dan
Uncle Steve
Dec 16, 2013, 12:52:42 PM12/16/13
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trash talk will make him seem like a genius.
Where are the intelligent posters?
Regards,
Uncle Steve
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inventor, many a diplomat, many a financier is a sounder philosopher
than all those who practice the dull craft of experimental psychology.
Rudy Canoza
Dec 16, 2013, 1:08:52 PM12/16/13
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On 12/16/2013 10:01 AM, Bugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
> Siri Cruz <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:chine.bleu-4B946...@news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> In article <35fd6$52af34dd$414e828e$29...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
>> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/8/2013 12:35 PM, BBugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
>>>
>>>> The highest minimum wage in a major country is Australia�s
>>>
>>> Australia's unemployment rate is *HIGHER* than it would be if they
>>> didn't have their absurd minimum wage. The minimum wage reduces
>>> employment. That's a fact.
>>
>> So if we pay workers nothing unemployment should go to zero. What will
>> be the purchasing power of those people as they starve to death?
>>
> Sounds to me like rightads want to bring back Slavery.
>> In article <35fd6$52af34dd$414e828e$29...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
>> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/8/2013 12:35 PM, BBugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
>>>
>>>> The highest minimum wage in a major country is Australia�s
>>>
>>> Australia's unemployment rate is *HIGHER* than it would be if they
>>> didn't have their absurd minimum wage. The minimum wage reduces
>>> employment. That's a fact.
>>
>> So if we pay workers nothing unemployment should go to zero. What will
>> be the purchasing power of those people as they starve to death?
>>
No. No, it doesn't sound like that to you at all, you
economics-illiterate illogical fuckstain.
The minimum wage, if effective, reduces employment. That's an
incontrovertible fact.
Jeff M
Dec 16, 2013, 1:10:54 PM12/16/13
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On 12/16/2013 11:32 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
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> [followups vandalism by unethical racist shitbag looter repaired]
level. Did you really think that "rec.bicycles.tech" gave a whit about
this?]
[snip]
> You're one of the absolute economics-illiterates, too. You never took a
> course in the subject. You are ignorant and you like it that way.
That's you all over, Plimpton. You're as economically illiterate as
> course in the subject. You are ignorant and you like it that way.
they come, as you've often proved before.
--
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moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification
for selfishness.� - John Kenneth Galbraith
Jeff M
Dec 16, 2013, 1:14:58 PM12/16/13
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On 12/16/2013 12:08 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
[Insanely excessive spamming to multiple NGs trimmed to a more rational
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this?]
[Insanely excessive spamming to multiple NGs trimmed to a more rational
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> The minimum wage, if effective, reduces employment. That's
a thoroughly and repeatedly disproved right-wing canard, though still
believed and repeated by economic illiterates.
Rudy Canoza
Dec 16, 2013, 1:26:00 PM12/16/13
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serious comment. Hers seldom are.
Eddie Haskell
Dec 16, 2013, 1:29:31 PM12/16/13
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"Rudy Canoza" <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in message
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> On 12/8/2013 12:35 PM, BBugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
>
>> The highest minimum wage in a major country is Australia�s
>
>
> Australia's unemployment rate is *HIGHER* than it would be if they didn't
> have their absurd minimum wage. The minimum wage reduces employment.
> That's a fact.
Yeah, but an increase in the minimum wage means automatic across the board
> Australia's unemployment rate is *HIGHER* than it would be if they didn't
> have their absurd minimum wage. The minimum wage reduces employment.
> That's a fact.
pay hikes for union workers which means money for democrats. That's what
it's all about and they know that it hurts people at the bottom the most and
simply don't give a rats ass. Corrupt as sin.
-Eddie Haskell
Rudy Canoza
Dec 16, 2013, 1:31:07 PM12/16/13
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On 12/16/2013 10:14 AM, Jeff M wrote:
> On 12/16/2013 12:08 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>
> [Insanely excessive spamming to multiple NGs trimmed to a more rational
> level. Did you really think that "rec.bicycles.tech" gave a whit about
> this?]
>
>> The minimum wage, if effective, reduces employment. That's
>
> a thoroughly and repeatedly disproved right-wing canard,
Nope. It is the consensus view of economists, and it is borne out
> On 12/16/2013 12:08 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>
> [Insanely excessive spamming to multiple NGs trimmed to a more rational
> level. Did you really think that "rec.bicycles.tech" gave a whit about
> this?]
>
>> The minimum wage, if effective, reduces employment. That's
>
> a thoroughly and repeatedly disproved right-wing canard,
empirically. There is *one* discredited study, Card and Krueger, that
supports the left-wing view. It has been thoroughly wasted, but because
you don't know economics - you know only ideology - you wouldn't know
about it.
Eddie Haskell
Dec 16, 2013, 1:32:24 PM12/16/13
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"Siri Cruz" <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:chine.bleu-4B946...@news.eternal-september.org...
> In article <35fd6$52af34dd$414e828e$29...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>
>> On 12/8/2013 12:35 PM, BBugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
>>
>> > The highest minimum wage in a major country is Australia�s
>>
>> Australia's unemployment rate is *HIGHER* than it would be if they
>> didn't have their absurd minimum wage. The minimum wage reduces
>> employment. That's a fact.
>
> So if we pay workers nothing unemployment should go to zero.
Yeah, you can get people to work for you for nothing.
> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>
>> On 12/8/2013 12:35 PM, BBugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
>>
>> > The highest minimum wage in a major country is Australia�s
>>
>> Australia's unemployment rate is *HIGHER* than it would be if they
>> didn't have their absurd minimum wage. The minimum wage reduces
>> employment. That's a fact.
>
> So if we pay workers nothing unemployment should go to zero.
> What will be the
> purchasing power of those people as they starve to death?
competitive in the world. Your corrupt pile of shit party knows this even if
you are too stupid to.
-Eddie Haskell
Rudy Canoza
Dec 16, 2013, 1:32:55 PM12/16/13
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On 12/16/2013 10:10 AM, Jeff M wrote:
> On 12/16/2013 11:32 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> [followups vandalism by unethical racist shitbag looter repaired]
>
> [Insanely excessive spamming to multiple NGs trimmed to a more rational
> level. Did you really think that "rec.bicycles.tech" gave a whit about
> this?]
>
> [snip]
>> You're one of the absolute economics-illiterates, too. You never took a
>> course in the subject. You are ignorant and you like it that way.
>
> That's you all over,
Nope. I studied economics - lots of it. You didn't. None of the
> On 12/16/2013 11:32 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> [followups vandalism by unethical racist shitbag looter repaired]
>
> [Insanely excessive spamming to multiple NGs trimmed to a more rational
> level. Did you really think that "rec.bicycles.tech" gave a whit about
> this?]
>
> [snip]
>> You're one of the absolute economics-illiterates, too. You never took a
>> course in the subject. You are ignorant and you like it that way.
>
> That's you all over,
economics-illiterates here, including you, know anything about this
topic. I do.
Eddie Haskell
Dec 16, 2013, 1:34:10 PM12/16/13
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"Rudy Canoza" <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in message
is honesty. Something that democrats find abhorrent.
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
Dec 16, 2013, 1:34:52 PM12/16/13
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"Uncle Steve" <stev...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 09:32:11AM -0800, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> [followups vandalism by unethical racist shitbag looter repaired]
>>
>> On 12/16/2013 9:29 AM, Siri Cruz wrote:
>> >In article <35fd6$52af34dd$414e828e$29...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
>> > Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>> >
>> >>On 12/8/2013 12:35 PM, BBugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
>> >>
>> >>>The highest minimum wage in a major country is Australia�s
>> >>
>> >>Australia's unemployment rate is *HIGHER* than it would be if they
>> >>didn't have their absurd minimum wage. The minimum wage reduces
>> >>employment. That's a fact.
>> >
>> >So if we pay workers nothing unemployment should go to zero.
>>
>> non sequitur...as usual.
>>
>> You're one of the absolute economics-illiterates, too. You never took a
>> course in the subject. You are ignorant and you like it that way.
>
> Another moron sock-puppet who thinks that the endless repetition of
> trash talk will make him seem like a genius.
>
> Where are the intelligent posters?
[raises hand]
>> [followups vandalism by unethical racist shitbag looter repaired]
>>
>> On 12/16/2013 9:29 AM, Siri Cruz wrote:
>> >In article <35fd6$52af34dd$414e828e$29...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
>> > Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>> >
>> >>On 12/8/2013 12:35 PM, BBugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
>> >>
>> >>>The highest minimum wage in a major country is Australia�s
>> >>
>> >>Australia's unemployment rate is *HIGHER* than it would be if they
>> >>didn't have their absurd minimum wage. The minimum wage reduces
>> >>employment. That's a fact.
>> >
>> >So if we pay workers nothing unemployment should go to zero.
>>
>> non sequitur...as usual.
>>
>> You're one of the absolute economics-illiterates, too. You never took a
>> course in the subject. You are ignorant and you like it that way.
>
> Another moron sock-puppet who thinks that the endless repetition of
> trash talk will make him seem like a genius.
>
> Where are the intelligent posters?
-Eddie Haskell, smartest man on UseNet.
Eddie Haskell
Dec 16, 2013, 1:36:56 PM12/16/13
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"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
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> On 12/16/2013 11:32 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> [followups vandalism by unethical racist shitbag looter repaired]
>
> [Insanely excessive spamming to multiple NGs trimmed to a more rational
> level. Did you really think that "rec.bicycles.tech" gave a whit about
> this?]
>
> [snip]
>> You're one of the absolute economics-illiterates, too. You never took a
>> course in the subject. You are ignorant and you like it that way.
>
> That's you all over, Plimpton. You're as economically illiterate as they
> come, as you've often proved before.
Pee Wee Herman "is not either" retort noted.
>> [followups vandalism by unethical racist shitbag looter repaired]
>
> [Insanely excessive spamming to multiple NGs trimmed to a more rational
> level. Did you really think that "rec.bicycles.tech" gave a whit about
> this?]
>
> [snip]
>> You're one of the absolute economics-illiterates, too. You never took a
>> course in the subject. You are ignorant and you like it that way.
>
> That's you all over, Plimpton. You're as economically illiterate as they
> come, as you've often proved before.
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
Dec 16, 2013, 1:39:46 PM12/16/13
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"Rudy Canoza" <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in message
> [followups vandalism by unethical racist shitbag looter repaired]
>
> On 12/16/2013 10:01 AM, Bugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
>
>> Siri Cruz <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:chine.bleu-4B946...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>>> In article <35fd6$52af34dd$414e828e$29...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
>>> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/8/2013 12:35 PM, BBugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
>>>>
>>>>> The highest minimum wage in a major country is Australia�s
>>>>
>>>> Australia's unemployment rate is *HIGHER* than it would be if they
>>>> didn't have their absurd minimum wage. The minimum wage reduces
>>>> employment. That's a fact.
>>>
>>> So if we pay workers nothing unemployment should go to zero. What will
>>> be the purchasing power of those people as they starve to death?
>>>
>> Sounds to me like rightads want to bring back Slavery.
>
> No. No, it doesn't sound like that to you at all, you
> economics-illiterate illogical fuckstain.
>
> The minimum wage, if effective, reduces employment. That's an
> incontrovertible fact.
He said that because he knows that part of the reasoning behind raising the
>
> On 12/16/2013 10:01 AM, Bugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
>
>> Siri Cruz <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:chine.bleu-4B946...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>>> In article <35fd6$52af34dd$414e828e$29...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
>>> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/8/2013 12:35 PM, BBugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
>>>>
>>>>> The highest minimum wage in a major country is Australia�s
>>>>
>>>> Australia's unemployment rate is *HIGHER* than it would be if they
>>>> didn't have their absurd minimum wage. The minimum wage reduces
>>>> employment. That's a fact.
>>>
>>> So if we pay workers nothing unemployment should go to zero. What will
>>> be the purchasing power of those people as they starve to death?
>>>
>> Sounds to me like rightads want to bring back Slavery.
>
> No. No, it doesn't sound like that to you at all, you
> economics-illiterate illogical fuckstain.
>
> The minimum wage, if effective, reduces employment. That's an
> incontrovertible fact.
minimum wage for democrats is to throw more people out of work and make them
government dependents for votes. Corrupt as sin.
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
Dec 16, 2013, 1:41:17 PM12/16/13
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"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
> On 12/16/2013 12:08 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>
> [Insanely excessive spamming to multiple NGs trimmed to a more rational
> level. Did you really think that "rec.bicycles.tech" gave a whit about
> this?]
>
>> The minimum wage, if effective, reduces employment. That's
>
> a thoroughly and repeatedly disproved right-wing canard, though still
> believed and repeated by economic illiterates.
Nope, it's a fact and your corrupt little political hacks masquerading as
>
> [Insanely excessive spamming to multiple NGs trimmed to a more rational
> level. Did you really think that "rec.bicycles.tech" gave a whit about
> this?]
>
>> The minimum wage, if effective, reduces employment. That's
>
> a thoroughly and repeatedly disproved right-wing canard, though still
> believed and repeated by economic illiterates.
economists are liars.
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
Dec 16, 2013, 1:42:47 PM12/16/13
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> In article <35fd6$52af34dd$414e828e$29...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>
>> On 12/8/2013 12:35 PM, BBugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
>>
>> > The highest minimum wage in a major country is Australia�s
>>
>> Australia's unemployment rate is *HIGHER* than it would be if they
>> didn't have their absurd minimum wage. The minimum wage reduces
>> employment. That's a fact.
>
> So if we pay workers nothing unemployment should go to zero.
If we raised it a million a year we could all retire to utopia, right shit
> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>
>> On 12/8/2013 12:35 PM, BBugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
>>
>> > The highest minimum wage in a major country is Australia�s
>>
>> Australia's unemployment rate is *HIGHER* than it would be if they
>> didn't have their absurd minimum wage. The minimum wage reduces
>> employment. That's a fact.
>
> So if we pay workers nothing unemployment should go to zero.
for brains? Tell us what would actually happen if we did that, shit for
brains.
-Eddie Haskell
deep
Dec 16, 2013, 1:44:03 PM12/16/13
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:10:54 -0600, Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org>
wrote:
>On 12/16/2013 11:32 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> [followups vandalism by unethical racist shitbag looter repaired]
>
>[Insanely excessive spamming to multiple NGs trimmed to a more rational
>level. Did you really think that "rec.bicycles.tech" gave a whit about
>this?]
>
>[snip]
>> You're one of the absolute economics-illiterates, too. You never took a
>> course in the subject. You are ignorant and you like it that way.
>
>That's you all over, Plimpton. You're as economically illiterate as
>they come, as you've often proved before.
And he has to be a nymshifter too because people quit paying attention
to him.
wrote:
>On 12/16/2013 11:32 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> [followups vandalism by unethical racist shitbag looter repaired]
>
>[Insanely excessive spamming to multiple NGs trimmed to a more rational
>level. Did you really think that "rec.bicycles.tech" gave a whit about
>this?]
>
>[snip]
>> You're one of the absolute economics-illiterates, too. You never took a
>> course in the subject. You are ignorant and you like it that way.
>
>That's you all over, Plimpton. You're as economically illiterate as
>they come, as you've often proved before.
to him.
Jeff M
Dec 16, 2013, 1:49:53 PM12/16/13
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On 12/16/2013 12:32 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
> [followups vandalism by unethical racist shitbag looter repaired]
>
> On 12/16/2013 10:10 AM, Jeff M wrote:
>> On 12/16/2013 11:32 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>> [followups vandalism by unethical racist shitbag looter repaired]
>>
>> [Insanely excessive spamming to multiple NGs trimmed to a more rational
>> level. Did you really think that "rec.bicycles.tech" gave a whit about
>> this?]
>>
>> [snip]
>>> You're one of the absolute economics-illiterates, too. You never took a
>>> course in the subject. You are ignorant and you like it that way.
>>
>> That's you all over,
>
> Nope. I studied economics
No, Plimpton, you lying, nym-shifting troll, at best, you FAILED
> [followups vandalism by unethical racist shitbag looter repaired]
>
> On 12/16/2013 10:10 AM, Jeff M wrote:
>> On 12/16/2013 11:32 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>> [followups vandalism by unethical racist shitbag looter repaired]
>>
>> [Insanely excessive spamming to multiple NGs trimmed to a more rational
>> level. Did you really think that "rec.bicycles.tech" gave a whit about
>> this?]
>>
>> [snip]
>>> You're one of the absolute economics-illiterates, too. You never took a
>>> course in the subject. You are ignorant and you like it that way.
>>
>> That's you all over,
>
> Nope. I studied economics
economics by your own admission, if you ever took a single class in the
subject, which your ignorant comments strongly imply is the case.
deep
Dec 16, 2013, 1:52:59 PM12/16/13
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:41:17 -0600, "Eddie Haskell" <hys...@saw.com>
wrote:
Prove it. Show some real data that proves increasing the minimum
wage has caused a drop in unemployment.
It's a trick question. I'm sure you aren't smart enough to get it.
>
>-Eddie Haskell
>
wrote:
wage has caused a drop in unemployment.
It's a trick question. I'm sure you aren't smart enough to get it.
>
>-Eddie Haskell
>
Rudy Canoza
Dec 16, 2013, 1:53:41 PM12/16/13
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On 12/16/2013 10:29 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
> "Rudy Canoza" <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in message
> news:35fd6$52af34dd$414e828e$29...@EVERESTKC.NET...
>> On 12/8/2013 12:35 PM, BBugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
>>
>>> The highest minimum wage in a major country is Australia�s
> "Rudy Canoza" <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in message
> news:35fd6$52af34dd$414e828e$29...@EVERESTKC.NET...
>> On 12/8/2013 12:35 PM, BBugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
>>
>>
>> Australia's unemployment rate is *HIGHER* than it would be if they didn't
>> have their absurd minimum wage. The minimum wage reduces employment.
>> That's a fact.
>
> Yeah, but an increase in the minimum wage means automatic across the board
> pay hikes for union workers which means money for democrats.
It doesn't always mean that, but it does mean automatic increases for
>> Australia's unemployment rate is *HIGHER* than it would be if they didn't
>> have their absurd minimum wage. The minimum wage reduces employment.
>> That's a fact.
>
> Yeah, but an increase in the minimum wage means automatic across the board
> pay hikes for union workers which means money for democrats.
some of them. That's one of the reasons organized labor supports
increases in the minimum wage.
There is another, more subtle reason. What matters in demand is
*relative* prices, not absolute prices. If skilled labor in some
industry earns an average of $28 an hour, and the minimum wage is $7 an
hour, then a skilled worker costs four times what an unskilled minimum
wage worker costs the employer. If the minimum wage now rises to $14 an
hour, the skilled worker now costs only two times as much. The cost of
employing a skilled worker, *relative to* the cost of using an unskilled
minimum wage worker, has fallen by 50%. Because the cost of the skilled
worker has fallen, more of them will be hired.
This is a classic illustration of why relative price, rather than
absolute price, is what matters. The example always given in economics
texts is that the highest quality products are usually unavailable in
the areas where they're produced, and the locals complain about it. The
best known example is apples in Washington state. Suppose a mediocre
apples costs 5� in the apple growing regions of Washington, while a
superior apple costs 10�. Now, it is obvious that it costs exactly the
same amount to ship a mediocre apple and a superior apple to Los
Angeles. Let's say it's 5�. Thus, the price of a mediocre apple in Los
Angeles is 10�, while the cost of a superior apple is 15�. In Los
Angeles, then the price of a superior apple is only 50% higher than the
price of a mediocre apple, instead of 100% higher as it was in
Washington. The price of the superior apple has *fallen* relative to
the cost of mediocre apples, so consumers demand more of them than do
consumers in Washington, and so the superior apples are shipped to Los
Angeles (and elsewhere), and are essentially unavailable in the area
where they're grown.
This is borne out every time.
Rudy Canoza
Dec 16, 2013, 1:54:14 PM12/16/13
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On 12/16/2013 10:32 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
> "Siri Cruz" <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:chine.bleu-4B946...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> In article <35fd6$52af34dd$414e828e$29...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
>> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/8/2013 12:35 PM, BBugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
>>>
>>>> The highest minimum wage in a major country is Australia�s
>>>
>>> Australia's unemployment rate is *HIGHER* than it would be if they
>>> didn't have their absurd minimum wage. The minimum wage reduces
>>> employment. That's a fact.
>>
>> So if we pay workers nothing unemployment should go to zero.
>
> Yeah, you can get people to work for you for nothing.
She didn't really expect a serious answer.
> "Siri Cruz" <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:chine.bleu-4B946...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> In article <35fd6$52af34dd$414e828e$29...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
>> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/8/2013 12:35 PM, BBugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
>>>
>>>> The highest minimum wage in a major country is Australia�s
>>>
>>> Australia's unemployment rate is *HIGHER* than it would be if they
>>> didn't have their absurd minimum wage. The minimum wage reduces
>>> employment. That's a fact.
>>
>> So if we pay workers nothing unemployment should go to zero.
>
> Yeah, you can get people to work for you for nothing.
Jeff M
Dec 16, 2013, 1:54:31 PM12/16/13
to
attention whore. He's like some mangy cur that just keeps slinking back
no matter how many times he's been shooed away or kicked in the ribs.
Rudy Canoza
Dec 16, 2013, 1:54:59 PM12/16/13
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exactly what is wrong with the idea.
Eddie Haskell
Dec 16, 2013, 1:56:54 PM12/16/13
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"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
> On 12/16/2013 12:32 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> [followups vandalism by unethical racist shitbag looter repaired]
>>
>> On 12/16/2013 10:10 AM, Jeff M wrote:
>>> On 12/16/2013 11:32 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>> [followups vandalism by unethical racist shitbag looter repaired]
>>>
>>> [Insanely excessive spamming to multiple NGs trimmed to a more rational
>>> level. Did you really think that "rec.bicycles.tech" gave a whit about
>>> this?]
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>> You're one of the absolute economics-illiterates, too. You never took
>>>> a
>>>> course in the subject. You are ignorant and you like it that way.
>>>
>>> That's you all over,
>>
>> Nope. I studied economics
>
> No, Plimpton, you lying, nym-shifting troll, at best, you FAILED economics
> by your own admission, if you ever took a single class in the subject,
> which your ignorant comments strongly imply is the case.
In other words he just whipped your ass and you think you can lie your way
>> [followups vandalism by unethical racist shitbag looter repaired]
>>
>> On 12/16/2013 10:10 AM, Jeff M wrote:
>>> On 12/16/2013 11:32 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>> [followups vandalism by unethical racist shitbag looter repaired]
>>>
>>> [Insanely excessive spamming to multiple NGs trimmed to a more rational
>>> level. Did you really think that "rec.bicycles.tech" gave a whit about
>>> this?]
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>> You're one of the absolute economics-illiterates, too. You never took
>>>> a
>>>> course in the subject. You are ignorant and you like it that way.
>>>
>>> That's you all over,
>>
>> Nope. I studied economics
>
> No, Plimpton, you lying, nym-shifting troll, at best, you FAILED economics
> by your own admission, if you ever took a single class in the subject,
> which your ignorant comments strongly imply is the case.
out of it. Democrat 101.
-Eddie Haskell
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Eddie Haskell
Dec 16, 2013, 1:58:06 PM12/16/13
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<deep> wrote in message news:idiua9ppamcf466up...@4ax.com...
-Eddie Haskell
Rudy Canoza
Dec 16, 2013, 1:58:49 PM12/16/13
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[followups vandalism by unethical racist shitbag looter repaired]
On 12/16/2013 10:44 AM, Scheisskopf, who never even *WALKED PAST* an
economics lecture hall, lied:
> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:10:54 -0600, Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On 12/16/2013 11:32 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>> [followups vandalism by unethical racist shitbag looter repaired]
>>
>> [Insanely excessive spamming to multiple NGs trimmed to a more rational
>> level. Did you really think that "rec.bicycles.tech" gave a whit about
>> this?]
>>
>> [snip]
>>> You're one of the absolute economics-illiterates, too. You never took a
>>> course in the subject. You are ignorant and you like it that way.
>>
>> That's
>
> wrote:
>
>> On 12/16/2013 11:32 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>> [followups vandalism by unethical racist shitbag looter repaired]
>>
>> [Insanely excessive spamming to multiple NGs trimmed to a more rational
>> level. Did you really think that "rec.bicycles.tech" gave a whit about
>> this?]
>>
>> [snip]
>>> You're one of the absolute economics-illiterates, too. You never took a
>>> course in the subject. You are ignorant and you like it that way.
>>
>> That's
>
> And he has to be a
The minimum wage, if effective - that is, if it is at a level above the
market-clearing price for unskilled labor - reduces employment. This is
a fact.
Eddie Haskell
Dec 16, 2013, 1:59:03 PM12/16/13
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"Rudy Canoza" <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in message
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
Dec 16, 2013, 2:00:03 PM12/16/13
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"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
> On 12/16/2013 12:44 PM, deep wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:10:54 -0600, Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/16/2013 11:32 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>> [followups vandalism by unethical racist shitbag looter repaired]
>>>
>>> [Insanely excessive spamming to multiple NGs trimmed to a more rational
>>> level. Did you really think that "rec.bicycles.tech" gave a whit about
>>> this?]
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>> You're one of the absolute economics-illiterates, too. You never took
>>>> a
>>>> course in the subject. You are ignorant and you like it that way.
>>>
>>> That's you all over, Plimpton. You're as economically illiterate as
>>> they come, as you've often proved before.
>>
>> And he has to be a nymshifter too because people quit paying attention
>> to him.
>
> He runs multiple nyms and spams all over the Usenet because he's a major
> attention whore. He's like some mangy cur that just keeps slinking back
> no matter how many times he's been shooed away or kicked in the ribs.
We already know that he whipped your ass so you can stop pounding the table
>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:10:54 -0600, Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/16/2013 11:32 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>> [followups vandalism by unethical racist shitbag looter repaired]
>>>
>>> [Insanely excessive spamming to multiple NGs trimmed to a more rational
>>> level. Did you really think that "rec.bicycles.tech" gave a whit about
>>> this?]
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>> You're one of the absolute economics-illiterates, too. You never took
>>>> a
>>>> course in the subject. You are ignorant and you like it that way.
>>>
>>> That's you all over, Plimpton. You're as economically illiterate as
>>> they come, as you've often proved before.
>>
>> And he has to be a nymshifter too because people quit paying attention
>> to him.
>
> He runs multiple nyms and spams all over the Usenet because he's a major
> attention whore. He's like some mangy cur that just keeps slinking back
> no matter how many times he's been shooed away or kicked in the ribs.
about it.
-Eddie Haskell
Rudy Canoza
Dec 16, 2013, 1:59:51 PM12/16/13
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On 12/16/2013 10:52 AM, deep wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:41:17 -0600, "Eddie Haskell" <hys...@saw.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
>> news:h8ednVjLXoO-3jLP...@giganews.com...
>>> On 12/16/2013 12:08 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>
>>> [Insanely excessive spamming to multiple NGs trimmed to a more rational
>>> level. Did you really think that "rec.bicycles.tech" gave a whit about
>>> this?]
>>>
>>>> The minimum wage, if effective, reduces employment. That's
>>>
>>> a thoroughly and repeatedly disproved right-wing canard, though still
>>> believed and repeated by economic illiterates.
>>
>> Nope, it's a fact and your corrupt little political hacks masquerading as
>> economists are liars.
>
> Prove it. Show some real data that proves increasing the minimum
> wage has caused a drop in unemployment.
The minimum wage causes an *INCREASE* in unemployment, you stupid
> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:41:17 -0600, "Eddie Haskell" <hys...@saw.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
>> news:h8ednVjLXoO-3jLP...@giganews.com...
>>> On 12/16/2013 12:08 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>
>>> [Insanely excessive spamming to multiple NGs trimmed to a more rational
>>> level. Did you really think that "rec.bicycles.tech" gave a whit about
>>> this?]
>>>
>>>> The minimum wage, if effective, reduces employment. That's
>>>
>>> a thoroughly and repeatedly disproved right-wing canard, though still
>>> believed and repeated by economic illiterates.
>>
>> Nope, it's a fact and your corrupt little political hacks masquerading as
>> economists are liars.
>
> Prove it. Show some real data that proves increasing the minimum
> wage has caused a drop in unemployment.
illiterate *CRYBABY* cocksucker.
Eddie Haskell
Dec 16, 2013, 2:02:04 PM12/16/13
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"Rudy Canoza" <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in message
raise it so they do what they always do - lie.
-Eddie Haskell
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<deep> wrote in message news:fuiua9hsgrsdth604...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:41:17 -0600, "Eddie Haskell" <hys...@saw.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
>>news:h8ednVjLXoO-3jLP...@giganews.com...
>>> On 12/16/2013 12:08 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>
>>> [Insanely excessive spamming to multiple NGs trimmed to a more rational
>>> level. Did you really think that "rec.bicycles.tech" gave a whit about
>>> this?]
>>>
>>>> The minimum wage, if effective, reduces employment. That's
>>>
>>> a thoroughly and repeatedly disproved right-wing canard, though still
>>> believed and repeated by economic illiterates.
>>
>>Nope, it's a fact and your corrupt little political hacks masquerading as
>>economists are liars.
>
> Prove it. Show some real data that proves increasing the minimum
> wage has caused a drop in unemployment.
I causes the employment rate to be lower than it otherwise would have been
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
>>news:h8ednVjLXoO-3jLP...@giganews.com...
>>> On 12/16/2013 12:08 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>
>>> [Insanely excessive spamming to multiple NGs trimmed to a more rational
>>> level. Did you really think that "rec.bicycles.tech" gave a whit about
>>> this?]
>>>
>>>> The minimum wage, if effective, reduces employment. That's
>>>
>>> a thoroughly and repeatedly disproved right-wing canard, though still
>>> believed and repeated by economic illiterates.
>>
>>Nope, it's a fact and your corrupt little political hacks masquerading as
>>economists are liars.
>
> Prove it. Show some real data that proves increasing the minimum
> wage has caused a drop in unemployment.
and you know it, you little lying sack of shit. Party over people and
country every fuckin time.
-Eddie Haskell
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Eddie Haskell
Dec 16, 2013, 2:05:43 PM12/16/13
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"Rudy Canoza" <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in message
and so do democrats who advocate it.
-Eddie Haskell
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Dec 16, 2013, 2:01:29 PM12/16/13
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On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 12:34:52PM -0600, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>
> "Uncle Steve" <stev...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6de642d9a7...@gmail.com...
> > On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 09:32:11AM -0800, Rudy Canoza wrote:
> >> [followups vandalism by unethical racist shitbag looter repaired]
> >>
> >> On 12/16/2013 9:29 AM, Siri Cruz wrote:
> >> >In article <35fd6$52af34dd$414e828e$29...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
> >> > Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>On 12/8/2013 12:35 PM, BBugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
> >> >>
> >> >>>The highest minimum wage in a major country is Australia?s
>
> "Uncle Steve" <stev...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6de642d9a7...@gmail.com...
> > On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 09:32:11AM -0800, Rudy Canoza wrote:
> >> [followups vandalism by unethical racist shitbag looter repaired]
> >>
> >> On 12/16/2013 9:29 AM, Siri Cruz wrote:
> >> >In article <35fd6$52af34dd$414e828e$29...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
> >> > Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>On 12/8/2013 12:35 PM, BBugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>Australia's unemployment rate is *HIGHER* than it would be if they
> >> >>didn't have their absurd minimum wage. The minimum wage reduces
> >> >>employment. That's a fact.
> >> >
> >> >So if we pay workers nothing unemployment should go to zero.
> >>
> >> non sequitur...as usual.
> >>
> >> You're one of the absolute economics-illiterates, too. You never took a
> >> course in the subject. You are ignorant and you like it that way.
> >
> > Another moron sock-puppet who thinks that the endless repetition of
> > trash talk will make him seem like a genius.
> >
> > Where are the intelligent posters?
>
> [raises hand]
>
> -Eddie Haskell, smartest man on UseNet.
A day late and a dollar short, as usual.
> >> >>Australia's unemployment rate is *HIGHER* than it would be if they
> >> >>didn't have their absurd minimum wage. The minimum wage reduces
> >> >>employment. That's a fact.
> >> >
> >> >So if we pay workers nothing unemployment should go to zero.
> >>
> >> non sequitur...as usual.
> >>
> >> You're one of the absolute economics-illiterates, too. You never took a
> >> course in the subject. You are ignorant and you like it that way.
> >
> > Another moron sock-puppet who thinks that the endless repetition of
> > trash talk will make him seem like a genius.
> >
> > Where are the intelligent posters?
>
> [raises hand]
>
> -Eddie Haskell, smartest man on UseNet.
Regards,
Uncle Steve
--
/One/ Roman law weighed more than all the lyrics and school-
metaphysics of the time together. And I maintain that to-day many an
inventor, many a diplomat, many a financier is a sounder philosopher
than all those who practice the dull craft of experimental psychology.
Jeff M
Dec 16, 2013, 2:11:33 PM12/16/13
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On 12/16/2013 12:59 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
[snip]
[Insanely excessive spamming to multiple NGs trimmed to a more rational
level. Did you really think that "rec.bicycles.tech" gave a whit about
this, you pompous blowhard? Or did your enormous egotism mislead you to
think the world is dying to hear your idiotic comments on any topic?]
>> Prove it. Show some real data that proves increasing the minimum
>> wage has caused a drop in unemployment.
>
> The minimum wage causes an *INCREASE* in unemployment, you stupid
> illiterate *CRYBABY* cocksucker.
Notice how Plimpton ignore the cites I gave him for the umpteenth time,
proving his silly, ignorant claim to so much rightard BS, in favor of a
personal attack?
What an immature jerk-off he is, and as for who's a "cocksucker," you
gotta give him credit for sucking his own online, with his multiple nyms
to play with.
[snip]
[Insanely excessive spamming to multiple NGs trimmed to a more rational
level. Did you really think that "rec.bicycles.tech" gave a whit about
think the world is dying to hear your idiotic comments on any topic?]
>> Prove it. Show some real data that proves increasing the minimum
>> wage has caused a drop in unemployment.
>
> The minimum wage causes an *INCREASE* in unemployment, you stupid
> illiterate *CRYBABY* cocksucker.
proving his silly, ignorant claim to so much rightard BS, in favor of a
personal attack?
What an immature jerk-off he is, and as for who's a "cocksucker," you
gotta give him credit for sucking his own online, with his multiple nyms
to play with.
Rudy Canoza
Dec 16, 2013, 2:13:56 PM12/16/13
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it. They acknowledge it when they admit that raising the minimum wage
to, say, $500 an hour would cause the economy to collapse.
Rudy Canoza
Dec 16, 2013, 2:14:27 PM12/16/13
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deep
Dec 16, 2013, 2:15:35 PM12/16/13
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 13:03:37 -0600, "Eddie Haskell" <hys...@saw.com>
Prove it. Show the data that proves the causal relationship between
raising the minimum wage and an increase in unemployment. Can't can
you?
raising the minimum wage and an increase in unemployment. Can't can
you?
Eddie Haskell
Dec 16, 2013, 2:15:57 PM12/16/13
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"Rudy Canoza" <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in message
-Eddie Haskell
Rudy Canoza
Dec 16, 2013, 2:15:58 PM12/16/13
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On 12/16/2013 11:11 AM, Jeff M wrote:
> On 12/16/2013 12:59 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
> [snip]
>
> [Insanely
Yes, all your posts demonstrate insanity.
> On 12/16/2013 12:59 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
> [snip]
>
> [Insanely
>
>>> Prove it. Show some real data that proves increasing the minimum
>>> wage has caused a drop in unemployment.
>>
>> The minimum wage causes an *INCREASE* in unemployment, you stupid
>> illiterate *CRYBABY* cocksucker.
>
> Notice how Plimpton ignore the cites
Eddie Haskell
Dec 16, 2013, 2:21:05 PM12/16/13
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<deep> wrote in message news:p5kua91c54lnduvja...@4ax.com...
know that raising the minimum wage means lower employment just like I do.
It's just that you are a toady liar for your corrupt party. This is not a
debate. I'm telling the truth and you are lying. Simple as that. Where's
that guy that used to pump my gas and check my oil? In the future you will
place your order at McDonald's yourself. Fuck those over paid mental midgets
behind the counter.
-Eddie Haskell
Rudy Canoza
Dec 16, 2013, 2:21:09 PM12/16/13
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On 12/16/2013 11:15 AM, Scheisskopf, shit-4-braincell economics
illiterate, lied:
Suppose a Big Mac costs $3.00 in Boise, where you buy them. Now suppose
the price doubles to $6.00. Will you continue to buy the same number of
them? No.
Rudy Canoza
Dec 16, 2013, 2:28:07 PM12/16/13
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theories of supply and demand. As a result, they have no idea of what
prices represent. They think prices are arbitrary. That's stupid.
Another example of this is when leftists want to set maximum rather than
minimum prices. For example, rent control. When there is effective
rent control, there's a housing shortage. Always.
Jeff M
Dec 16, 2013, 2:33:23 PM12/16/13
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On 12/16/2013 1:21 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> Prove it. Show the data that proves the causal relationship between
>> raising the minimum wage and an increase in unemployment.
>
> Done.
Nope.
>> Prove it. Show the data that proves the causal relationship between
>> raising the minimum wage and an increase in unemployment.
>
> Done.
> Suppose a Big Mac costs $3.00 in Boise, where you buy them. Now suppose
> the price doubles to $6.00. Will you continue to buy the same number of
> them? No.
economics? That you think your little sillygism proves anything at all,
other than just how dopey you actually are, shows how tragically
thorough and comprehensive your ignorance of economics, not to mention
logic, really is.
Now don't forget to snip the proof out and mangle what I wrote before
you reply in your usual juvenile way, Plimpton.
McDonald's sez their payroll costs are about 17 cents on the dollar,
which is likely lower than their competitors costs.
Yet McDonald's was able to spend over $14,000 per each of their
restaurant workers last year on dividends and buying back their own
stock, while at the same time fighting minimum wage increases and
unionization efforts, claiming they couldn't afford it.
"According to one estimate, a 20 percent pay raise for workers would
cost average fast-food restaurants between 1 percent and 2 percent of
their revenue. And what if the protesters' demands for $15-an-hour wages
(from the current $7.25 average) are met? Doubling wages doesn't mean
that food costs will double. All else being equal, this pay increase
would cost these businesses 5 percent to 10 percent of their revenue"
http://www.dailyfinance.com/2012/12/10/fast-food-labor-strikes-what-will-happen-if-workers-have-it-the/
Eddie Haskell
Dec 16, 2013, 2:33:41 PM12/16/13
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Eddie Haskell
Dec 16, 2013, 2:36:56 PM12/16/13
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"Rudy Canoza" <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in message
-Eddie Haskell
Jeff M
Dec 16, 2013, 2:37:14 PM12/16/13
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he's too pompously egotistical and immature to admit it.
>> I'm not going to play your fucking little game as if you're serious. You
>> know that raising the minimum wage means lower employment just like I do.
>> It's just that you are a toady liar for your corrupt party. This is not a
>> debate. I'm telling the truth and you are lying. Simple as that. Where's
>> that guy that used to pump my gas and check my oil? In the future you
>> will
>> place your order at McDonald's yourself. Fuck those over paid mental
>> midgets
>> behind the counter.
Rudy Canoza
Dec 16, 2013, 2:41:45 PM12/16/13
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On 12/16/2013 11:33 AM, Jeff M wrote:
> On 12/16/2013 1:21 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>
>>> Prove it. Show the data that proves the causal relationship between
>>> raising the minimum wage and an increase in unemployment.
>>
>> Done.
>
> Nope.
Yep.
> On 12/16/2013 1:21 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>
>>> Prove it. Show the data that proves the causal relationship between
>>> raising the minimum wage and an increase in unemployment.
>>
>> Done.
>
> Nope.
>> Suppose a Big Mac costs $3.00 in Boise, where you buy them. Now suppose
>> the price doubles to $6.00. Will you continue to buy the same number of
>> them? No.
>
> This buffoonery,
Uncle Steve
Dec 16, 2013, 2:40:38 PM12/16/13
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As for service-worker staff, you know very well they can be employed
as informers by the secret police. If you know anything about secret
police forces, you'll know that they can never have enough informers.
Eddie Haskell
Dec 16, 2013, 2:39:36 PM12/16/13
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figure it out. durh..
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
Dec 16, 2013, 2:42:23 PM12/16/13
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loses an employee to McDonald's and the McDonald's employee gets to pay more
for everything he buys. Damn morons.
-Eddie Haskell
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>>>>> have been
>>>>> and you know it, you little lying sack of shit. Party over people and
>>>>> country every fuckin time.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>>>
>>>> Prove it.
>
> He
has done
>>>>> and you know it, you little lying sack of shit. Party over people and
>>>>> country every fuckin time.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>>>
>>>> Prove it.
>
> He
Rudy Canoza
Dec 16, 2013, 2:44:01 PM12/16/13
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That's just a fact.
Rudy Canoza
Dec 16, 2013, 2:47:19 PM12/16/13
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On 12/16/2013 11:34 AM, Siri Cruz wrote:
> In article <12016$52af421d$414e828e$26...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>
>> [followups vandalism by unethical racist shitbag looter repaired]
>>
>> On 12/16/2013 10:01 AM, Bugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
>
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>>
>>
>>> Siri Cruz <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>> news:chine.bleu-4B946...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>
>>>> In article <35fd6$52af34dd$414e828e$29...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
>>>> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/8/2013 12:35 PM, BBugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The highest minimum wage in a major country is Australia�s
>>>> In article <35fd6$52af34dd$414e828e$29...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
>>>> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/8/2013 12:35 PM, BBugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Australia's unemployment rate is *HIGHER* than it would be if they
>>>>> didn't have their absurd minimum wage. The minimum wage reduces
>>>>> employment. That's a fact.
>>>>
>>>> So if we pay workers nothing unemployment should go to zero. What will
>>>>> Australia's unemployment rate is *HIGHER* than it would be if they
>>>>> didn't have their absurd minimum wage. The minimum wage reduces
>>>>> employment. That's a fact.
>>>>
>>>> be the purchasing power of those people as they starve to death?
>>>>
>>> Sounds to me like rightads want to bring back Slavery.
>>
>> No. No, it doesn't sound like that to you at all, you
>> economics-illiterate illogical fuckstain.
>>
>> The minimum wage, if effective, reduces employment. That's an
>> incontrovertible fact.
>
> Yes.
Yes.
> You claim without evidence that it is a strictly decreasing function
> employment = f(minimumwage)
No, I made no such claim. I claimed, with ample support, that the
amount of labor hired by firms is a function of wages. It is.
deep
Dec 16, 2013, 2:47:46 PM12/16/13
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 13:21:05 -0600, "Eddie Haskell" <hys...@saw.com>
No, you're just assuming it does, because that's what you want to
think.
>It's just that you are a toady liar for your corrupt party. This is not a
>debate. I'm telling the truth and you are lying. Simple as that. Where's
>that guy that used to pump my gas and check my oil? In the future you will
>place your order at McDonald's yourself. Fuck those over paid mental midgets
>behind the counter.
Why do you hate the working poor so much?
>
>-Eddie Haskell
>
>
think.
>It's just that you are a toady liar for your corrupt party. This is not a
>debate. I'm telling the truth and you are lying. Simple as that. Where's
>that guy that used to pump my gas and check my oil? In the future you will
>place your order at McDonald's yourself. Fuck those over paid mental midgets
>behind the counter.
>
>-Eddie Haskell
>
>
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which is predicted by the well-tested theory of demand, and which is
borne out in *EVERY* empirical study ever conducted.
Card and Krueger rigged their numbers.
Jeff M
Dec 16, 2013, 2:59:42 PM12/16/13
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>> It's just that you are a toady liar for your corrupt party. This is not a
>> debate. I'm telling the truth and you are lying. Simple as that. Where's
>> that guy that used to pump my gas and check my oil? In the future you will
>> place your order at McDonald's yourself. Fuck those over paid mental midgets
>> behind the counter.
>
> Why do you hate the working poor so much?
maturity and character, he clearly is, or more likely was, one, and now
lives on the dole.
Rudy Canoza
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because it throws them out of work.
> Especially since,
Especially since you know - *all* you fuckwitted left-wing stooges know
- that raising the minimum wage puts people out of work, making their
lives worse. Why do you want to do that?
Jeff M
Dec 16, 2013, 3:29:27 PM12/16/13
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>>>>>>>>>> The minimum wage, if effective, reduces
>>>>>>>>>> employment. That's
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a thoroughly and repeatedly disproved right-wing
>>>>>>>>> canard, though still believed and repeated by
>>>>>>>>> economic illiterates.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope, it's a fact and your corrupt little political
>>>>>>>> hacks masquerading as economists are liars.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Prove it. Show some real data that proves increasing
>>>>>>> the minimum wage has caused a drop in unemployment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I causes the employment rate to be lower than it otherwise
>>>>>> would have been and you know it, you little lying sack of
>>>>>> shit. Party over people and country every fuckin time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>>>>
>>>>> Prove it.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not going to play your fucking little game as if you're
>>>> serious. You know that raising the minimum wage means lower
>>>> employment just like I do.
>>>
>>> No, you're just assuming it does, because that's what you want to
>>> think.
>>>
>> ... what he was told to think
>>
> economics, but keep insisting I'm right, always right, without yet
> citing even a single credible source for my silly, ignorant claims?
Those of us who know something about economics and are able to read and
comprehend the relevant research know the facts, which are that the
claim that raising the minimum wage will cause rising unemployment is a
nothing more than a long discredited rightard canard purveyed by the
likes of Limbaugh and regurgitated by useful idiots for the right.
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>>>>>>>>>> The minimum wage, if effective, reduces
>>>>>>>>>> employment. That's
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a thoroughly and repeatedly disproved right-wing
>>>>>>>>> canard, though still believed and repeated by
>>>>>>>>> economic illiterates.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope, it's a fact and your corrupt little political
>>>>>>>> hacks masquerading as economists are liars.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Prove it. Show some real data that proves increasing
>>>>>>> the minimum wage has caused a drop in unemployment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I causes the employment rate to be lower than it otherwise
>>>>>> would have been and you know it, you little lying sack of
>>>>>> shit. Party over people and country every fuckin time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>>>>
>>>>> Prove it.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not going to play your fucking little game as if you're
>>>> serious. You know that raising the minimum wage means lower
>>>> employment just like I do.
>>>
>>> No, you're just assuming it does, because that's what you want to
>>> think.
>>>
>> ... what he was told to think
>>
>>> Why do you hate the working poor so much?
>
>
>> Especially since, given his demonstrated levels of intelligence,
>> maturity and character, he clearly is, or more likely was, one,
>> and now lives on the dole.
>
> Especially since you know I'm a liar who knows nothing about
>> maturity and character, he clearly is, or more likely was, one,
>> and now lives on the dole.
>
> economics, but keep insisting I'm right, always right, without yet
> citing even a single credible source for my silly, ignorant claims?
Those of us who know something about economics and are able to read and
comprehend the relevant research know the facts, which are that the
claim that raising the minimum wage will cause rising unemployment is a
nothing more than a long discredited rightard canard purveyed by the
likes of Limbaugh and regurgitated by useful idiots for the right.
Klaus Schadenfreude
Dec 16, 2013, 3:44:55 PM12/16/13
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:15:35 -0700, deep wrote:
>Prove it. Show the data that proves the causal relationship between
>raising the minimum wage and an increase in unemployment. Can't can
>you?
I love when Dudu stamps his little feet and demands proof.
>Prove it. Show the data that proves the causal relationship between
>raising the minimum wage and an increase in unemployment. Can't can
>you?
Rudy Canoza
Dec 16, 2013, 3:58:25 PM12/16/13
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On 12/16/2013 12:26 PM, Siri Cruz wrote:
> In article <a978a$52af502c$414e828e$56...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>
>> Suppose a Big Mac costs $3.00 in Boise, where you buy them. Now suppose
>> the price doubles to $6.00. Will you continue to buy the same number of
>> them? No.
>
> Yes, I will. I bought 0 amount of food from McDonalds before, and
>
>> Suppose a Big Mac costs $3.00 in Boise, where you buy them. Now suppose
>> the price doubles to $6.00. Will you continue to buy the same number of
>> them? No.
>
Suppose the price of something you buy doubles. Will you keep buying
the same amount of it? No.
Firms are no different.
Rudy Canoza
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On 12/16/2013 12:28 PM, Siri Cruz wrote:
> In article <cb2$52af4b2e$414e828e$35...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>
>> On 12/16/2013 10:52 AM, deep wrote:
>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:41:17 -0600, "Eddie Haskell" <hys...@saw.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:h8ednVjLXoO-3jLP...@giganews.com...
>>>>> On 12/16/2013 12:08 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> [Insanely excessive spamming to multiple NGs trimmed to a more rational
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>>>>>
>> On 12/16/2013 10:52 AM, deep wrote:
>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:41:17 -0600, "Eddie Haskell" <hys...@saw.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:h8ednVjLXoO-3jLP...@giganews.com...
>>>>> On 12/16/2013 12:08 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> [Insanely excessive spamming to multiple NGs trimmed to a more rational
>>>>> level. Did you really think that "rec.bicycles.tech" gave a whit about
>>>>> this?]
>>>>>
>>>>>> The minimum wage, if effective, reduces employment. That's
>>>>>
>>>>> a thoroughly and repeatedly disproved right-wing canard, though still
>>>>> believed and repeated by economic illiterates.
>>>>
>>>> Nope, it's a fact and your corrupt little political hacks masquerading as
>>>> economists are liars.
>>>
>>> Prove it. Show some real data that proves increasing the minimum
>>> wage has caused a drop in unemployment.
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> a thoroughly and repeatedly disproved right-wing canard, though still
>>>>> believed and repeated by economic illiterates.
>>>>
>>>> Nope, it's a fact and your corrupt little political hacks masquerading as
>>>> economists are liars.
>>>
>>> Prove it. Show some real data that proves increasing the minimum
>>> wage has caused a drop in unemployment.
>>
>> The minimum wage causes an *INCREASE* in unemployment, you stupid
>> illiterate *CRYBABY* cocksucker.
>
> So how much do you want to decrease it to get full employment?
>> illiterate *CRYBABY* cocksucker.
>
I'm not concerned with full employment.
Rudy Canoza
Dec 16, 2013, 4:06:57 PM12/16/13
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Jeff M
Dec 16, 2013, 4:16:11 PM12/16/13
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that raising the minimum wage raises unemployment rates. Pot, meet kettle.
dca...@krl.org
Dec 16, 2013, 4:16:30 PM12/16/13
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On Monday, December 16, 2013 3:29:27 PM UTC-5, Jeff M wrote:
>
>
>
> Those of us who know something about economics and are able to read and
>
> comprehend the relevant research know the facts, which are that the
>
> claim that raising the minimum wage will cause rising unemployment is a
>
> nothing more than a long discredited rightard canard purveyed by the
>
> likes of Limbaugh and regurgitated by useful idiots for the right.
Sounds good , but it is not true. The minimum wage is at about the level that would exist without a minimum wage law. And therefore the only significant effect is on the employment of young black kids. It does make it more difficult for them to get work experience and get work references so they can get a higher paying job. The unemployment rate of black teenagers is significantly above white teen agers.
>
>
>
> Those of us who know something about economics and are able to read and
>
> comprehend the relevant research know the facts, which are that the
>
> claim that raising the minimum wage will cause rising unemployment is a
>
> nothing more than a long discredited rightard canard purveyed by the
>
> likes of Limbaugh and regurgitated by useful idiots for the right.
If the minimum wage is raised to about $20 an hour, the effects will be noticeable and it will make a lot more things worth automating. And reduce employment.
Dan
deep
Dec 16, 2013, 4:32:09 PM12/16/13
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where the money comes from. I explained to you that it is physically
impossible to create something from nothing. Nobody "creates" wealth.
Wealth is comprised of not fiat money, but things of intrinsic value.
Those things are always accumulated from various sources and horded by
the rich. Once those things are redistributed in the wealhy's
direction, they don't exist where they used to. It's a zero sum game.
And you can't infinitely keep taking everything, because eventually
those sources are going to run out. There is no infinite wealth
creation or infinite growth. That is a completely self serving
capitalist myth.
Rudy Canoza
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On 12/16/2013 1:21 PM, Siri Cruz wrote:
> In article <13048$52af61b0$414e828e$44...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>
>> On 12/16/2013 12:21 PM, Siri Cruz wrote:
>>> In article <b57b3$52af564d$414e828e$69...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
>>
>> Right - because it is a change in price of an input used by firms.
>
> Actually it is one of many. And depending on the nature of the business the cost
> of labour is sometimes insignficant.
>
> So you're so fond of McDonalds. In its 2012 annual report
> Cost of food and paper 6,318.2 M
> Payroll and benefits 4,710,3 M
So, we see that labor was the second most costly resource.
> First employees are not the most expensive cost to employees
Irrelevant. It's a major factor of production, and nearly doubling the
price of it would severely cut profits, if they weren't able to raise
the prices they charge to customers. And they *aren't* able arbitrarily
to raise the prices they charge customers, because if they raise prices,
customers will buy less.
You leftists just don't understand a thing about economics. You never will.
Rudy Canoza
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On 12/16/2013 1:16 PM, Jeff M wrote:
> On 12/16/2013 3:06 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> On 12/16/2013 12:44 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:15:35 -0700, deep wrote:
>>>
>>>> Prove it. Show the data that proves the causal relationship between
>>>> raising the minimum wage and an increase in unemployment. Can't can
>>>> you?
>>>
>>> I love when Dudu stamps his little feet and demands proof.
>>
>> ...but supplies no proof for his absurd claim that wealth isn't created.
>
> EXACTLY like you supply no proof for your absurd and disproved claim
> that raising the minimum wage raises unemployment rates.
That proof has been supplied multiple times.
> On 12/16/2013 3:06 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> On 12/16/2013 12:44 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:15:35 -0700, deep wrote:
>>>
>>>> Prove it. Show the data that proves the causal relationship between
>>>> raising the minimum wage and an increase in unemployment. Can't can
>>>> you?
>>>
>>> I love when Dudu stamps his little feet and demands proof.
>>
>> ...but supplies no proof for his absurd claim that wealth isn't created.
>
> EXACTLY like you supply no proof for your absurd and disproved claim
> that raising the minimum wage raises unemployment rates.
Jeff M
Dec 16, 2013, 4:43:57 PM12/16/13
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On 12/16/2013 1:32 PM, deep wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 13:06:57 -0800, Rudy Canoza
> <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>
>> On 12/16/2013 12:44 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:15:35 -0700, deep wrote:
>>>
>>>> Prove it. Show the data that proves the causal relationship between
>>>> raising the minimum wage and an increase in unemployment. Can't can
>>>> you?
>>>
>>> I love when Dudu stamps his little feet and demands proof.
>>
>> ...but supplies no proof for his absurd claim that wealth isn't created.
>
> I've explained it to you.
You haven't. You howled and shrieked and displayed your abject
> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 13:06:57 -0800, Rudy Canoza
> <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>
>> On 12/16/2013 12:44 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:15:35 -0700, deep wrote:
>>>
>>>> Prove it. Show the data that proves the causal relationship between
>>>> raising the minimum wage and an increase in unemployment. Can't can
>>>> you?
>>>
>>> I love when Dudu stamps his little feet and demands proof.
>>
>> ...but supplies no proof for his absurd claim that wealth isn't created.
>
> I've explained it to you.
ignorance of wealth creation.
> You refuse to answer the question about
> where the money comes from. I explained to you that it is physically
> impossible to create something from nothing.
Value creation leading to wealth accumulation is not "creating something
from nothing." I explained to you that all the raw materials in the
world are useless until someone figures out how to do something useful
with them and make them available for people to consume.
Rudy Canoza
Dec 16, 2013, 4:51:13 PM12/16/13
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*read* the long-discredited Card & Krueger paper. What you've read,
jeffy m, is bullshit left-wing polemicists bullshitting about Card &
Krueger; the polemicists themselves *also* haven't read the paper.
Card & Krueger is *exactly* like the paper referred to by all leftists
that purported to show that people who bash queers are themselves
queers. The paper was shit, the people who referred to it never read
it, and they simply were acting as ideologically driven polemicists, not
"scholars."
Rudy Canoza
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On 12/16/2013 1:43 PM, Jeff M wrote:
> On 12/16/2013 3:38 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
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> [Insanely excessive spamming to multiple NGs once again trimmed to a
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>
>> On 12/16/2013 1:16 PM, Jeff M wrote:
>>> On 12/16/2013 3:06 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>> On 12/16/2013 12:44 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:15:35 -0700, deep wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Prove it. Show the data that proves the causal relationship between
>>>>>> raising the minimum wage and an increase in unemployment. Can't can
>>>>>> you?
>>>>>
>>>>> I love when Dudu stamps his little feet and demands proof.
>>>>
>>>> ...but supplies no proof for his absurd claim that wealth isn't
>>>> created.
>>>
>>> EXACTLY like you supply no proof for your absurd and disproved claim
>>> that raising the minimum wage raises unemployment rates.
>>
>> That proof has been supplied multiple times.
>
> Then you should have no trouble posting it again,
I don't play your silly goose chase game. Go find it yourself.
> On 12/16/2013 3:38 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>
> [Insanely excessive spamming to multiple NGs once again trimmed to a
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>
>> On 12/16/2013 1:16 PM, Jeff M wrote:
>>> On 12/16/2013 3:06 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>> On 12/16/2013 12:44 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:15:35 -0700, deep wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Prove it. Show the data that proves the causal relationship between
>>>>>> raising the minimum wage and an increase in unemployment. Can't can
>>>>>> you?
>>>>>
>>>>> I love when Dudu stamps his little feet and demands proof.
>>>>
>>>> ...but supplies no proof for his absurd claim that wealth isn't
>>>> created.
>>>
>>> EXACTLY like you supply no proof for your absurd and disproved claim
>>> that raising the minimum wage raises unemployment rates.
>>
>> That proof has been supplied multiple times.
>
> Then you should have no trouble posting it again,
You've never read the Card & Krueger paper.
Rudy Canoza
Dec 16, 2013, 5:03:50 PM12/16/13
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On 12/16/2013 1:51 PM, Siri Cruz wrote:
> In article <11d92$52af673b$414e828e$13...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
That was a stupid comment that confirms your lack of serious purpose,
along with your insane ideology.
No reasonable person is concerned with full employment. Someone is
always out of work. It's natural and normal. Some buildings are
vacant, some equipment is idle, some farm fields like fallow. It's no
big deal.
Rudy Canoza
Dec 16, 2013, 5:05:10 PM12/16/13
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On 12/16/2013 1:52 PM, Siri Cruz wrote:
> In article <21ecc$52af66f7$414e828e$13...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>
>> [followups vandalism by unethical racist shitbag looter repaired]
>>
>> On 12/16/2013 12:26 PM, Siri Cruz wrote:
>>> In article <a978a$52af502c$414e828e$56...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
>>> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Suppose a Big Mac costs $3.00 in Boise, where you buy them. Now suppose
>>>> the price doubles to $6.00. Will you continue to buy the same number of
>>>> them? No.
>>>
>>> Yes, I will. I bought 0 amount of food from McDonalds before, and
>>
>> Suppose the price of something you buy doubles. Will you keep buying
>> the same amount of it? No.
>
> Yes.
>
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>>
>> On 12/16/2013 12:26 PM, Siri Cruz wrote:
>>> In article <a978a$52af502c$414e828e$56...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
>>> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Suppose a Big Mac costs $3.00 in Boise, where you buy them. Now suppose
>>>> the price doubles to $6.00. Will you continue to buy the same number of
>>>> them? No.
>>>
>>> Yes, I will. I bought 0 amount of food from McDonalds before, and
>>
>> Suppose the price of something you buy doubles. Will you keep buying
>> the same amount of it? No.
>
No. If your rent doubles, you'll move. If the cost of gasoline
doubles, you'll drive less.
Eddie Haskell
Dec 16, 2013, 5:03:31 PM12/16/13
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<deep> wrote in message news:q4mua99undnf49qah...@4ax.com...
poor because you suck democrat cock.
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
Dec 16, 2013, 5:04:37 PM12/16/13
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<deep> wrote in message news:7orua9hapsg66furb...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 13:06:57 -0800, Rudy Canoza
> <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>
>>On 12/16/2013 12:44 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:15:35 -0700, deep wrote:
>>>
>>>> Prove it. Show the data that proves the causal relationship between
>>>> raising the minimum wage and an increase in unemployment. Can't can
>>>> you?
>>>
>>> I love when Dudu stamps his little feet and demands proof.
>>
>>...but supplies no proof for his absurd claim that wealth isn't created.
>
> Nobody "creates" wealth.
> <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>
>>On 12/16/2013 12:44 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:15:35 -0700, deep wrote:
>>>
>>>> Prove it. Show the data that proves the causal relationship between
>>>> raising the minimum wage and an increase in unemployment. Can't can
>>>> you?
>>>
>>> I love when Dudu stamps his little feet and demands proof.
>>
>>...but supplies no proof for his absurd claim that wealth isn't created.
>
Then the country is still an uncharted wilderness. Fuck off, nigger.
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
Dec 16, 2013, 5:07:48 PM12/16/13
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"Rudy Canoza" <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in message
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>
> On 12/16/2013 1:32 PM, deep wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 13:06:57 -0800, Rudy Canoza
>> <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/16/2013 12:44 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:15:35 -0700, deep wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Prove it. Show the data that proves the causal relationship between
>>>>> raising the minimum wage and an increase in unemployment. Can't can
>>>>> you?
>>>>
>>>> I love when Dudu stamps his little feet and demands proof.
>>>
>>> ...but supplies no proof for his absurd claim that wealth isn't created.
>>
>> I've explained it to you.
>
> You haven't. You howled and shrieked and displayed your abject ignorance
> of wealth creation.
>
>
>> You refuse to answer the question about
>> where the money comes from. I explained to you that it is physically
>> impossible to create something from nothing.
>
> Which is nothing but blowhard bullshit.
>
> Value creation leading to wealth accumulation is not "creating something
> from nothing."
But creating something like a computer program that makes production more
>
> On 12/16/2013 1:32 PM, deep wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 13:06:57 -0800, Rudy Canoza
>> <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/16/2013 12:44 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:15:35 -0700, deep wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Prove it. Show the data that proves the causal relationship between
>>>>> raising the minimum wage and an increase in unemployment. Can't can
>>>>> you?
>>>>
>>>> I love when Dudu stamps his little feet and demands proof.
>>>
>>> ...but supplies no proof for his absurd claim that wealth isn't created.
>>
>> I've explained it to you.
>
> You haven't. You howled and shrieked and displayed your abject ignorance
> of wealth creation.
>
>
>> You refuse to answer the question about
>> where the money comes from. I explained to you that it is physically
>> impossible to create something from nothing.
>
> Which is nothing but blowhard bullshit.
>
> Value creation leading to wealth accumulation is not "creating something
> from nothing."
efficient does. The wealth created comes from no one, but benefits everyone.
Btw, you're wasting your time with these goddamn cretins.
-Eddie Haskell
dca...@krl.org
Dec 16, 2013, 5:17:49 PM12/16/13
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On Monday, December 16, 2013 4:32:09 PM UTC-5, deep wrote:
> It's a zero sum game.
It is not.
> It's a zero sum game.
Dan
Jeff M
Dec 16, 2013, 5:18:12 PM12/16/13
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>> Those of us who know something about economics and are able to read
>> and comprehend the relevant research know the facts, which are that
>> the claim that raising the minimum wage will cause rising
>> unemployment is a nothing more than a long discredited rightard
>> canard purveyed by the likes of Limbaugh and regurgitated by useful
>> idiots for the right.
>
> I do *not* know anything about economics, jeffy m. I can't even
>> and comprehend the relevant research know the facts, which are that
>> the claim that raising the minimum wage will cause rising
>> unemployment is a nothing more than a long discredited rightard
>> canard purveyed by the likes of Limbaugh and regurgitated by useful
>> idiots for the right.
>
> *read* the credible cites 've been given. What I write, jeffy m, is
> bullshit rightard polemics about economic data I can't understand.
>
> Card & Krueger is *exactly* like the paper referred to by all
> leftists that purported to show that people who bash queers are
> themselves queers. The paper was shit, the people who referred to it
> never read it, and they simply were acting as ideologically driven
> polemicists, not "scholars."
Another incoherent denial of obvious fact, unrelated to the cites
> Card & Krueger is *exactly* like the paper referred to by all
> leftists that purported to show that people who bash queers are
> themselves queers. The paper was shit, the people who referred to it
> never read it, and they simply were acting as ideologically driven
> polemicists, not "scholars."
actually provided, showing blind, ignorant adherence to a
long-discredited rightard meme. This is a typical example of how
rightard extremists airily waive their limp wrists in an ineffectual
attempt to simply deny the existence of any established facts that
disprove their ignorant notions, which are usually facts that they are
either too cowardly to even look at, too stupid to understand, or both.
Plimpton, you've been shown the facts repeatedly already, but you're
just too pig-ignorant, especially in economics, and far too egotistical
and thoroughly dishonest to admit it. A competent adult would be able
to come up with at least one credible cite to support their contentions.
But you haven't, not even one. Instead, you keep on lying, obviously
pathologically, since you have to know you're gonna get called out on
your lies.
According to a study by John Schmitt from the Center for Economic
Policy Research published this February, there is "little or no
employment response to modest increases in the minimum wage."
http://www.cepr.net/documents/publications/min-wage-2013-02.pdf
A 2010 study by Dube, Lester, and Reich found "no adverse employment
effects" to minimum wage increases.
http://www.irle.berkeley.edu/workingpapers/157-07.pdf
A study by Doug Hall and David Copper estimates that raising the
minimum wage to $9.80 an hour by July 2014 would actually add over $20
billion to the economy and create approximately 100,000 new jobs.
http://www.epi.org/files/2012/ib341-raising-federal-minimum-wage.pdf
deep
Dec 16, 2013, 5:18:32 PM12/16/13
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 16:04:37 -0600, "Eddie Haskell" <hys...@saw.com>
wrote:
>
No it's not. Every single square inch has had people all over it. The
farmland is toxic. Almost no virgin forests left. Major resource
pools exhausted. Fisheries depleated. GMOs gone wild. Energy
sources getting harder and harder to find and less productive.
>
>-Eddie Haskell
>
wrote:
>
farmland is toxic. Almost no virgin forests left. Major resource
pools exhausted. Fisheries depleated. GMOs gone wild. Energy
sources getting harder and harder to find and less productive.
>
>-Eddie Haskell
>
Rudy Canoza
Dec 16, 2013, 5:19:48 PM12/16/13
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deep
Dec 16, 2013, 5:25:32 PM12/16/13
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 16:03:31 -0600, "Eddie Haskell" <hys...@saw.com>
Yes you do hate the poor. You hate everybody. You aren't even smart
enough to figure out that if you don't pay people a livable wage, then
they are forced to depend on things like foodstamps, Medicaid, and
subsidized housing. And you've already proven you hate all those
people too.
>-Eddie Haskell
>
enough to figure out that if you don't pay people a livable wage, then
they are forced to depend on things like foodstamps, Medicaid, and
subsidized housing. And you've already proven you hate all those
people too.
>-Eddie Haskell
>
Eddie Haskell
Dec 16, 2013, 5:30:36 PM12/16/13
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> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 16:04:37 -0600, "Eddie Haskell" <hys...@saw.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>><deep> wrote in message news:7orua9hapsg66furb...@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 13:06:57 -0800, Rudy Canoza
>>> <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 12/16/2013 12:44 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:15:35 -0700, deep wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Prove it. Show the data that proves the causal relationship between
>>>>>> raising the minimum wage and an increase in unemployment. Can't can
>>>>>> you?
>>>>>
>>>>> I love when Dudu stamps his little feet and demands proof.
>>>>
>>>>...but supplies no proof for his absurd claim that wealth isn't created.
>>>
>>> Nobody "creates" wealth.
>>
>>Then the country is still an uncharted wilderness.
>
> No it's not.
Then somebody created wealth, you retarded ass wipe. Now get the fuck off my
> wrote:
>
>>
>><deep> wrote in message news:7orua9hapsg66furb...@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 13:06:57 -0800, Rudy Canoza
>>> <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 12/16/2013 12:44 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:15:35 -0700, deep wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Prove it. Show the data that proves the causal relationship between
>>>>>> raising the minimum wage and an increase in unemployment. Can't can
>>>>>> you?
>>>>>
>>>>> I love when Dudu stamps his little feet and demands proof.
>>>>
>>>>...but supplies no proof for his absurd claim that wealth isn't created.
>>>
>>> Nobody "creates" wealth.
>>
>>Then the country is still an uncharted wilderness.
>
> No it's not.
computer.
-Eddie Hasekll
Jeff M
Dec 16, 2013, 5:32:39 PM12/16/13
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to figure out that returning the minimum wage to the equivalent
purchasing power it had in years past will also stimulate economic
activity very efficiently, since low wage workers, perforce, will spend
virtually all of it immediately. Oh well, stupidity, ignorance, hatred
and fear all tend to be found together in such people.
Jeff M
Dec 16, 2013, 5:35:21 PM12/16/13
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>> You do *not* know anything about economics, jeffy m. You can't even
>> *read* the long-discredited Card & Krueger paper. What you've read,
>> jeffy m, is bullshit left-wing polemicists bullshitting about Card &
>> Krueger; the polemicists themselves *also* haven't read the paper.
>>
>> *read* the long-discredited Card & Krueger paper. What you've read,
>> jeffy m, is bullshit left-wing polemicists bullshitting about Card &
>> Krueger; the polemicists themselves *also* haven't read the paper.
>>
>> Card & Krueger is *exactly* like the paper referred to by all
>> leftists that purported to show that people who bash queers are
>> themselves queers. The paper was shit, the people who referred to it
>> never read it, and they simply were acting as ideologically driven
>> polemicists, not "scholars."
>
>Another incoherent denial of obvious fact,
Nope.
>> leftists that purported to show that people who bash queers are
>> themselves queers. The paper was shit, the people who referred to it
>> never read it, and they simply were acting as ideologically driven
>> polemicists, not "scholars."
>
>Another incoherent denial of obvious fact,
> According to a study by John Schmitt from the Center for Economic
> Policy Research
co-founder and co-director, Mark Weisbrot, was practically in Hugo
Chavez's cabinet. These people are not economists - they're ardent
left-wing polemicists.
John Schmitt has a *single* paper published in a refereed economics
journal, in Great Britain. He doesn't have a single paper published in
American Economic Review, the Journal of Law and Economics, the Journal
of Economic Literature, Econometrica, or any other reputable journal.
He's a fraud - another Krugman.
>
> A 2010 study by Dube, Lester, and Reich
paper (you didn't read the paper itself.
> A study by Doug Hall and David Copper estimates that raising the
> minimum wage to $9.80 an hour by July 2014 would actually add over $20
> billion to the economy and create approximately 100,000 new jobs.
>
> http://www.epi.org
board of directors is a who's who of U.S. labor union goons.
Eddie Haskell
Dec 16, 2013, 5:51:58 PM12/16/13
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> You aren't even smart
> enough to figure out that if you don't pay people a livable wage,
goddamned fuckwitted bureaucrat happens to say it is? Get the fuck out of my
country.
> then
> they are forced to depend on things like foodstamps, Medicaid, and
> subsidized housing. And you've already proven you hate all those
> people too.
need a hike in the minimum wage that will hurt poor people. I've heard it a
million times, you DNC shit for brains propagandist. Get the fuck out of my
country, socialist fucking idiot. Same stupid goddamned regurgitated
stupidity over and over and over. PUKE.
-Eddie Haskell
Rudy Canoza
Dec 16, 2013, 5:52:19 PM12/16/13
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On 12/16/2013 2:18 PM, deep wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 16:04:37 -0600, "Eddie Haskell" <hys...@saw.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> <deep> wrote in message news:7orua9hapsg66furb...@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 13:06:57 -0800, Rudy Canoza
>>> <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/16/2013 12:44 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:15:35 -0700, deep wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Prove it. Show the data that proves the causal relationship between
>>>>>> raising the minimum wage and an increase in unemployment. Can't can
>>>>>> you?
>>>>>
>>>>> I love when Dudu stamps his little feet and demands proof.
>>>>
>>>> ...but supplies no proof for his absurd claim that wealth isn't created.
>>>
>>> Nobody "creates" wealth.
>>
>> Then the country is still an uncharted wilderness.
>
> No it's not.
Exactly. People figured out how to make the raw materials useful. They
> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 16:04:37 -0600, "Eddie Haskell" <hys...@saw.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> <deep> wrote in message news:7orua9hapsg66furb...@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 13:06:57 -0800, Rudy Canoza
>>> <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/16/2013 12:44 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:15:35 -0700, deep wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Prove it. Show the data that proves the causal relationship between
>>>>>> raising the minimum wage and an increase in unemployment. Can't can
>>>>>> you?
>>>>>
>>>>> I love when Dudu stamps his little feet and demands proof.
>>>>
>>>> ...but supplies no proof for his absurd claim that wealth isn't created.
>>>
>>> Nobody "creates" wealth.
>>
>> Then the country is still an uncharted wilderness.
>
> No it's not.
also figured out ways for people to do things more efficiently. That
created value, and from that value, wealth was accumulated.
Wealth accumulation is not a zero sum game. Proved.
Rudy Canoza
Dec 16, 2013, 5:53:18 PM12/16/13
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Dec 16, 2013, 5:54:40 PM12/16/13
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On 12/16/2013 2:35 PM, Jeff M wrote:
> On 12/16/2013 4:19 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>
>> On 12/16/2013 2:17 PM, dca...@krl.org wrote:
>>> On Monday, December 16, 2013 4:32:09 PM UTC-5, deep wrote:
>>>> It's a zero sum game.
>>>
>>> It is not.
>>
>> Correct - exchange is not a zero sum game.
>
> I agree with you on that.
And thus, you agree with me that wealth accumulation also is not a zero
> On 12/16/2013 4:19 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>
>> On 12/16/2013 2:17 PM, dca...@krl.org wrote:
>>> On Monday, December 16, 2013 4:32:09 PM UTC-5, deep wrote:
>>>> It's a zero sum game.
>>>
>>> It is not.
>>
>> Correct - exchange is not a zero sum game.
>
> I agree with you on that.
sum game. You agree with me that Scheisskopf doesn't know his
HIV-oozing asshole from his face about any of this stuff. That's good.
First-Post
Dec 16, 2013, 5:56:40 PM12/16/13
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 16:18:12 -0600, Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org>
wrote:
Thanks for showing everyone just what a gullil;e stupid fool you are.
You call more than doubling the current minimum of $7.25 to $15 a
"modest" increase? Hell an over $2 an hour increase like your biased
stupid left wing article wants is enough for a little burger joint to
lay off an employee or two or cut the hours of their current
employees.
And since you're obviously so damned shut in and uneducated in the
real world, FYI, most of the large chains like McDonalds or Burger
King etc are not corporate owned stores with the backing of the
conglomerate. Most of the fast food joints out there are individually
owned franchises. In fact, very few of what you stupidly refer to as
major chains are not chains at all but privately owned franchises who
have to pay the corporation substantial franchise fees for using the
logo and the name.
Damn you really are one stuipid son of a bitch aren't ya?
Why do you despise small business so much while simultaneously
claiming to hate the giants like Walmart for allegedly running Mom &
Pop out of business? Running the small business out of town is all
you fuckling asshole class envious socialist sacks of garbage have
been gunning for for years now.
wrote:
You call more than doubling the current minimum of $7.25 to $15 a
"modest" increase? Hell an over $2 an hour increase like your biased
stupid left wing article wants is enough for a little burger joint to
lay off an employee or two or cut the hours of their current
employees.
And since you're obviously so damned shut in and uneducated in the
real world, FYI, most of the large chains like McDonalds or Burger
King etc are not corporate owned stores with the backing of the
conglomerate. Most of the fast food joints out there are individually
owned franchises. In fact, very few of what you stupidly refer to as
major chains are not chains at all but privately owned franchises who
have to pay the corporation substantial franchise fees for using the
logo and the name.
Damn you really are one stuipid son of a bitch aren't ya?
Why do you despise small business so much while simultaneously
claiming to hate the giants like Walmart for allegedly running Mom &
Pop out of business? Running the small business out of town is all
you fuckling asshole class envious socialist sacks of garbage have
been gunning for for years now.
Rudy Canoza
Dec 16, 2013, 5:57:17 PM12/16/13
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On 12/16/2013 2:10 PM, deep wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 13:52:14 -0800, Siri Cruz <chine...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> In article <21ecc$52af66f7$414e828e$13...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
>> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>
>
>> In article <21ecc$52af66f7$414e828e$13...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
>> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/16/2013 12:26 PM, Siri Cruz wrote:
>>>> In article <a978a$52af502c$414e828e$56...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
>>>> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Suppose a Big Mac costs $3.00 in Boise, where you buy them. Now suppose
>>>>> the price doubles to $6.00. Will you continue to buy the same number of
>>>>> them? No.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I will. I bought 0 amount of food from McDonalds before, and
>>>
>>> Suppose the price of something you buy doubles. Will you keep buying
>>> the same amount of it? No.
>>
>> Yes. You should track the price of Lindt.
>>>> In article <a978a$52af502c$414e828e$56...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
>>>> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Suppose a Big Mac costs $3.00 in Boise, where you buy them. Now suppose
>>>>> the price doubles to $6.00. Will you continue to buy the same number of
>>>>> them? No.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I will. I bought 0 amount of food from McDonalds before, and
>>>
>>> Suppose the price of something you buy doubles. Will you keep buying
>>> the same amount of it? No.
>>
>
> Coffee too. Just look at what Starbucks is charging for a lousy cup
> of coffee now.
If the price doubles overnight, you'll buyer fewer cups of coffee at
Starbucks. Guaranteed.
Oh, and Starbucks doesn't make a lousy cup of coffee. They make good
coffee. There are other stores I think are better, but Starbucks is
good, and they are almost singlehandedly responsible for the fact that
you can now get a better cup of coffee than a cup of Farmer Bros. at
Denny's.
Rudy Canoza
Dec 16, 2013, 5:58:26 PM12/16/13
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On 12/16/2013 2:13 PM, Siri Cruz wrote:
> In article <e2281$52af769b$414e828e$17...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>
>> [followups vandalism by unethical racist shitbag looter repaired]
>
> By the way, I'm an idiot,
>
>> [followups vandalism by unethical racist shitbag looter repaired]
>
Right.
If the price of something you consume goes up, you consume less of it.
Not in rational dispute.
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