Does the police hassle drivers for driving below speed limits
Ignoramus2215
trailer axles are 6,000 lbs, which means that I will be slightly above
the rating.
The easiest way from the seller would be on a highway, which is
actually a decently paved highway. In any case, I would like to drive
slowly, like 40-45 miles an hour, this way I would get the best of
both worlds, safe slow driving and highway quality road.
My question is, how likely will the police be to hassle me for driving
too slowly, if, say, the lowest speed limit is 45 and I am going 40.
Pete C.
Considering how they ignore granny doing 45 in the left lane barely
seeing over the steering wheel, I expect you'd be fine in the far right
lane with hazard flashers on paying attention to what you're doing.
You could also rent a two axle equipment trailer from United Rentals or
similar for about $60 with ~8,000# of cargo capacity.
Doug Miller
In my opinion, it depends a lot on what type of highway you're on. Interstate
highways typically have a minimum speed of 45, and if you're going slower than
that you're creating a considerable traffic hazard, as well as risking a
ticket for violating the law. 40mph, with hazard flashers, on a State or U.S.
highway, isn't nearly such a problem, since the speeds are typically lower
anyway on such routes.
If you're not going to be driving any faster than 40, you don't belong on an
interstate highway, or any other high-speed limited access road.
Ignoramus2215
The mill will stay on the trailer for a few days, I cannot use a
rental.
i
Ignoramus2215
It is Hwy 88, which I think is considered an interstate. I think, I
can drive 45 mph without problems.
i
Steve Lusardi
If you actually read the speed laws, they refer to the maximum SAFE speed, which is not necessarily the max posted speed. These
laws do consider circumstances and road conditions. So in your case, if in your judgment, the safe speed is forty and your
judgment is justifiable, you should be OK.
Steve
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Winston
Looks like you are in the clear, Iggy.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/documents/062500050K11-606.htm
(625 ILCS 5/11‑606) (from Ch. 95 1/2, par. 11‑606)
Sec. 11‑606. Minimum speed regulation. (a) No person shall drive a motor
vehicle at such a slow speed as to impede or block the normal
and reasonable movement of traffic *except when reduced speed
is necessary for safe operation of his vehicle* or in compliance
with law.
(b) Whenever the Department, The Illinois State Toll Highway Authority, or
a local authority described in Section 11‑604 of this Chapter determines,
upon the basis of an engineering and traffic investigation concerning a
highway or street under its jurisdiction that slow vehicle speeds along
any part or zone of such highway or street consistently impede the normal
and reasonable movement of traffic, the Department, the Toll Highway
Authority, or local authority (as appropriate) may determine and declare
by proper regulation or ordinance a minimum speed limit below which no person
shall drive *except when necessary for safe operation of his vehicle* or in
compliance with law. A limit so determined and declared becomes effective
when appropriate signs giving notice of the limit are erected along such
part or zone of the highway or street.
(Source: P.A. 81‑840.)
--Winston
RAM�
_idnWca2ZbpIhvWn...@giganews.com:
A lot will depend upon how many cars/trucks line up behind you.
Travel at "off hours" (while the cops are having their breaks) and you'll
have fewer hassles.
If you're only going across town, do it during Rush Hour since nobody'll
be able to go over 25 MPH anyway... <GRIN>
rangerssuck
wrote:
My niece was ticketed for slowing to 50 (in a 65 zone) during a heavy
downpour. The cop was a real dick, but he was the one with the gun.
Ignoramus2215
It will be on a Saturday, I do not expect a lot of traffic.
The problem is not only that this mill is heavy, but also that it is
TALL and top heavy. This means that any kind of bouncing is amplified
big time with more stress on the pintle, etc.
I hate driving with knee mills in this trailer. this one will be third
or fourth, noone were nearly as big. The Wells Index was under 3k
lbs.
i
Louis Ohland
> TALL and top heavy. This means that any kind of bouncing is amplified
> big time with more stress on the pintle, etc.
>
> I hate driving with knee mills in this trailer. this one will be third
> or fourth, noone were nearly as big. The Wells Index was under 3k
> lbs.
Pull the head and the knee off, that will significantly lower the COG.
I disassembled a Super Max vertical mill (Bridgeport clone) and hauled
the smaller chunks up a steep stairway on a two wheel cart. The base had
to be winched out of the basement.
Louis Ohland
> I disassembled a Super Max vertical mill (Bridgeport clone) and hauled
> the smaller chunks up a steep stairway on a two wheel cart. The base had
> to be winched out of the basement.
Oops, try the table and head. The knee is pretty chunky.
Tim Wescott
IMHO unless you get stuck with a real dickhead you'll be fine -- the
ones that are even remotely smart would rather you drive slow with a
load like that. Driving at the speed limit and swaying across several
lanes would be more likely to get you pulled over.
As mentioned, if it's an interstate with a minimum speed you may have an
issue, but if it's a regular highway and you don't let the traffic build
up too much behind you, no intelligent and sane cop will hassle you.
--
Tim Wescott
Control system and signal processing consulting
www.wescottdesign.com
Pete C.
If I recall, your trailer has a fairly high bed height and relatively
small width and length, this is why I suggested a rental equipment
trailer since they are lower, dual axle and pretty wide and long.
Perhaps consider using a rental and a quick outdoor unloading before the
final move into the garage.
Doug Miller
"Hwy 88" where?
Ignoramus2215
> In article <LtCdnQavgeq5XhvW...@giganews.com>, Ignoramus2215 <ignora...@NOSPAM.2215.invalid> wrote:
>>On 2010-02-25, Doug Miller <spam...@milmac.com> wrote:
>
>>> In my opinion, it depends a lot on what type of highway you're on. Interstate
>>> highways typically have a minimum speed of 45, and if you're going slower than
>>> that you're creating a considerable traffic hazard, as well as risking a
>>> ticket for violating the law. 40mph, with hazard flashers, on a State or U.S.
>>> highway, isn't nearly such a problem, since the speeds are typically lower
>>> anyway on such routes.
>>>
>>> If you're not going to be driving any faster than 40, you don't belong on an
>>> interstate highway, or any other high-speed limited access road.
>>
>>It is Hwy 88, which I think is considered an interstate. I think, I
>>can drive 45 mph without problems.
>
> "Hwy 88" where?
Sorry, the people's republic of Illinois.
i
RAM�
news:hm6fs1$gff$00$1...@news.t-online.com:
> Iggy,
> If you actually read the speed laws, they refer to the maximum SAFE
> speed, which is not necessarily the max posted speed. These laws do
> consider circumstances and road conditions. So in your case, if in
> your judgment, the safe speed is forty and your judgment is
> justifiable, you should be OK. Steve
Interstate (and some non-Interstate) highways have MINIMUM speed limits in
many states.
Scott
"Ignoramus2215" <ignora...@NOSPAM.2215.invalid> wrote in message
Google Illinois Basic Speed Rule
Dave__67
wrote:
Rent the trailer, put your trailer on the rented trailer, put the mill
on your trailer....
Dave
Ignoramus2215
>
> Rent the trailer, put your trailer on the rented trailer, put the mill
> on your trailer....
that was funny
Wes
Where I live, not much of a chance but I live in a low density area. I often do 45MPH
down a divided highway so I don't get to work too soon. I'd rather drive just fast enough
to get to work on time and listen to my podcasts.
To get to your issue, how much traffic are you going to back up, as have backed up behind
you? If your route has a shoulder you can pull over onto to allow those behind you to
pass you safely, I doubt you will get any grief.
I've brought a few things home from truck depots that were tall relative to width and
drove really slow. As long as I moved over to let people go, no one gets mad, no cop
station gets a cell phone call.
Check your six, let them get around you, you should be fine.
Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller
Stuart Wheaton
> On 2010-02-25, Doug Miller <spam...@milmac.com> wrote:
>> In article <LtCdnQavgeq5XhvW...@giganews.com>, Ignoramus2215 <ignora...@NOSPAM.2215.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 2010-02-25, Doug Miller <spam...@milmac.com> wrote:
>>>> In my opinion, it depends a lot on what type of highway you're on. Interstate
>>>> highways typically have a minimum speed of 45, and if you're going slower than
>>>> that you're creating a considerable traffic hazard, as well as risking a
>>>> ticket for violating the law. 40mph, with hazard flashers, on a State or U.S.
>>>> highway, isn't nearly such a problem, since the speeds are typically lower
>>>> anyway on such routes.
>>>>
>>>> If you're not going to be driving any faster than 40, you don't belong on an
>>>> interstate highway, or any other high-speed limited access road.
>>> It is Hwy 88, which I think is considered an interstate. I think, I
>>> can drive 45 mph without problems.
>> "Hwy 88" where?
>
> Sorry, the people's republic of Illinois.
>
> i
Based on when I taught at NIU, if you pick the right time of day, you'll
never get close to 45 mph...
I-88 is a coin-operated interstate highway that frequently pretends it
is a parking lot.
Steve B
"Steve Lusardi" <steve...@lusardi.de> wrote in message
news:hm6fs1$gff$00$1...@news.t-online.com...
> Iggy,
> If you actually read the speed laws, they refer to the maximum SAFE speed,
> which is not necessarily the max posted speed. These laws do consider
> circumstances and road conditions. So in your case, if in your judgment,
> the safe speed is forty and your judgment is justifiable, you should be
> OK.
> Steve
Agreed. It's a whiteout. Are they going to ticket everyone who is going
under 45? Like I said, I think you only may be guilty if caught.
Steve
Steve B
"Ignoramus2215" <ignora...@NOSPAM.2215.invalid> wrote in message
If your truck is like mine, 45 on the speedo is about 42. If you are really
poking along at 30, you have no argument. But you have a plausible argument
if you say your speedo was reading 45.
Make damn sure tires, hitch, safety chains, tie downs, and Depends are all
in place and tight.
Steve
Steve B
"Ignoramus2215" <ignora...@NOSPAM.2215.invalid> wrote in message
Sounds like about $200 likely. Just depends if Barney Fife is working that
day or not..............
Steve
Steve B
"Ignoramus2215" <ignora...@NOSPAM.2215.invalid> wrote in message
Use chains and not nylon, unless the heavy 3" wide stuff, then use several
and check often.
Steve
Steve B
"Winston" <Win...@bigbrother.net> wrote in message
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> On 2/25/2010 10:20 AM, Ignoramus2215 wrote:
>> That Series II Bridgeport mill weighs 5000 lbs, plus or minus. My
>> trailer axles are 6,000 lbs, which means that I will be slightly above
>> the rating.
>>
>> The easiest way from the seller would be on a highway, which is
>> actually a decently paved highway. In any case, I would like to drive
>> slowly, like 40-45 miles an hour, this way I would get the best of
>> both worlds, safe slow driving and highway quality road.
>>
>> My question is, how likely will the police be to hassle me for driving
>> too slowly, if, say, the lowest speed limit is 45 and I am going 40.
>
>
> Looks like you are in the clear, Iggy.
> http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/documents/062500050K11-606.htm
>
> Sec. 11-606. Minimum speed regulation. (a) No person shall drive a motor
> vehicle at such a slow speed as to impede or block the
> normal
> and reasonable movement of traffic *except when reduced
> speed
> is necessary for safe operation of his vehicle* or in
> compliance
> with law.
> (b) Whenever the Department, The Illinois State Toll Highway Authority,
> or
> upon the basis of an engineering and traffic investigation concerning
> a
> highway or street under its jurisdiction that slow vehicle speeds
> along
> any part or zone of such highway or street consistently impede the
> normal
> and reasonable movement of traffic, the Department, the Toll Highway
> Authority, or local authority (as appropriate) may determine and
> declare
> by proper regulation or ordinance a minimum speed limit below which
> no person
> shall drive *except when necessary for safe operation of his vehicle*
> or in
> compliance with law. A limit so determined and declared becomes
> effective
> when appropriate signs giving notice of the limit are erected along
> such
> part or zone of the highway or street.
>
>
> --Winston
Google it and print it for Barney.
Steve
Wes
>Interstate (and some non-Interstate) highways have MINIMUM speed limits in
>many states.
Yeah, well try to enforce that in a blizzard. I've had to drive by brail some mornings.
Those cuts they put in the highway to vibrate your tires are priceless in snow country.
Wes
>> My question is, how likely will the police be to hassle me for driving
>> too slowly, if, say, the lowest speed limit is 45 and I am going 40.
>
>My niece was ticketed for slowing to 50 (in a 65 zone) during a heavy
>downpour. The cop was a real dick, but he was the one with the gun.
That is why you accept the ticket and show up in court. In my state, we both are likely
to have a gun. Kinda nice that way :)
Wes
Wes
>I-88 is a coin-operated interstate highway that frequently pretends it
>is a parking lot.
I've had to go though Ill Noise too many times. You can wear out your brakes just
stopping at shakedown booths. Oh, toll booths. I wonder how much of their toll road
system was built with federal (you and me) funds?
Wes
axolotl
> That Series II Bridgeport mill weighs 5000 lbs, plus or minus. My
> trailer axles are 6,000 lbs, which means that I will be slightly above
> the rating.
>
> The easiest way from the seller would be on a highway, which is
> actually a decently paved highway. In any case, I would like to drive
> slowly, like 40-45 miles an hour, this way I would get the best of
> both worlds, safe slow driving and highway quality road.
>
> too slowly, if, say, the lowest speed limit is 45 and I am going 40.
The truth is hard, but must be told. The police will hassle you if they
do not like your looks, assuming they are not busy doing something else.
If you _look_ unsafe, prepare to be pulled over, no matter what the
speed limits may be.
Your trailer has a common failure point- the tires. You only have two,
and you are operating near or over their limits. If anything twitches,
you have an interesting situation. You need a different class of equipment.
Consider hiring riggers for a couple of hours. They have the right
stuff, and will put the mill where you want it in the garage. No drama.
As an alternative, you might think about renting an "escalator" trailer.
Keeps the COG low, and makes it easier to get the mill off, so you can
take the trailer back.
Worth what it costs.
Kevin Gallimore
Pete C.
The point about single axle is important, if you get a flat with that
high COG load, the whole thing is going over and it won't be pretty.
The $60 dual axle equipment trailer that normally carries Bobcats,
trenchers, etc. is a much safer option. You can probably get a discount
rate for a weekend rental as well.
rangerssuck
cl...@snyder.on.ca
If they pull you over they'll also be looking at your weight (are you
obviuously overloaded) and whether the load is adequately restrained.
If not, $200 might be small change.
JR North
popped.
JR
Dweller in the cellar
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:30:47 -0600, "Pete C." <aux3....@snet.net>
wrote:
>
>Ignoramus2215 wrote:
>>
>> That Series II Bridgeport mill weighs 5000 lbs, plus or minus. My
>> trailer axles are 6,000 lbs, which means that I will be slightly above
>> the rating.
>>
>> The easiest way from the seller would be on a highway, which is
>> actually a decently paved highway. In any case, I would like to drive
>> slowly, like 40-45 miles an hour, this way I would get the best of
>> both worlds, safe slow driving and highway quality road.
>>
>> My question is, how likely will the police be to hassle me for driving
>> too slowly, if, say, the lowest speed limit is 45 and I am going 40.
>
>Considering how they ignore granny doing 45 in the left lane barely
>seeing over the steering wheel, I expect you'd be fine in the far right
>lane with hazard flashers on paying attention to what you're doing.
>
>You could also rent a two axle equipment trailer from United Rentals or
>similar for about $60 with ~8,000# of cargo capacity.
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>IMU, delay of 5 or more vehicles, state or LA highway will get you
>popped.
Indiana has a law requiring a driver to move over and allow vehicles to pass
if he's obstructing more than *three*.
Hardly anyone knows this.
Including the police. :-(
Ignoramus2215
I did not even know it, but I always do it, if I have to drive slow on
a two lane road, I always pull over from time to time.
i
Brother Lightfoot
"Ignoramus2215" <ignora...@NOSPAM.2215.invalid> wrote in message
> That Series II Bridgeport mill weighs 5000 lbs, plus or minus. My
> trailer axles are 6,000 lbs, which means that I will be slightly above
> the rating.
>
> The easiest way from the seller would be on a highway, which is
> actually a decently paved highway. In any case, I would like to drive
> slowly, like 40-45 miles an hour, this way I would get the best of
> both worlds, safe slow driving and highway quality road.
>
> My question is, how likely will the police be to hassle me for driving
> too slowly, if, say, the lowest speed limit is 45 and I am going 40.
Chill out dood--just make sure the bong gets left home and double check to
make sure there's no roaches in the fucking ashtray...
--
Too_Many_Tools
wrote:
> That Series II Bridgeport mill weighs 5000 lbs, plus or minus. My
> trailer axles are 6,000 lbs, which means that I will be slightly above
> the rating.
>
> The easiest way from the seller would be on a highway, which is
> actually a decently paved highway. In any case, I would like to drive
> slowly, like 40-45 miles an hour, this way I would get the best of
> both worlds, safe slow driving and highway quality road.
>
> My question is, how likely will the police be to hassle me for driving
> too slowly, if, say, the lowest speed limit is 45 and I am going 40.
FYI Ig.
http://www.dot.state.il.us/tpublic.html
TMT
Wes
Roger Shoaf
"Ignoramus2215" <ignora...@NOSPAM.2215.invalid> wrote in message
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> trailer axles are 6,000 lbs, which means that I will be slightly above
> the rating.
>
> The easiest way from the seller would be on a highway, which is
> actually a decently paved highway. In any case, I would like to drive
> slowly, like 40-45 miles an hour, this way I would get the best of
> both worlds, safe slow driving and highway quality road.
>
> My question is, how likely will the police be to hassle me for driving
> too slowly, if, say, the lowest speed limit is 45 and I am going 40.
It is not against the law to travel slower than the posted speed limit if
you have a reason for doing so, even in places that have minimum limits.
Common sense prevails that if you know you have a squirrelly load you should
avoid peek traffic times.
If you do get stopped and asked why you were going slower, tell the officer
that you felt it prudent not to push the limits of the vehicle given that
you have a bigger than normal load, and you would prefer not to have to make
a panic stop. Worst case is the moron gives you a ticket for going too slow
and then you can take it up with the judge. But that is not likely to
happen.
--
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they come up with this striped stuff.
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"rangerssuck" <range...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 25, 1:20 pm, Ignoramus2215 <ignoramus2...@NOSPAM.2215.invalid>
wrote:
> That Series II Bridgeport mill weighs 5000 lbs, plus or minus. My
> trailer axles are 6,000 lbs, which means that I will be slightly above
> the rating.
>
> The easiest way from the seller would be on a highway, which is
> actually a decently paved highway. In any case, I would like to drive
> slowly, like 40-45 miles an hour, this way I would get the best of
> both worlds, safe slow driving and highway quality road.
>
> My question is, how likely will the police be to hassle me for driving
> too slowly, if, say, the lowest speed limit is 45 and I am going 40.
My niece was ticketed for slowing to 50 (in a 65 zone) during a heavy
downpour. The cop was a real dick, but he was the one with the gun.
I would have fun in court with this ticket.
Officer would you describe the weather at the time as being clear and dry?
Would you describe the conditions as a light mist with but bright and good
visibility?
Would you describe the conditions as a light gentile rain?
Really it was rather blustery and the rain was rather heavy right?
Would a prudent driver be expected to slow down if they felt conditions were
less than optimal?
Etc.
Pay the ticket and the guy is probably going to continue to be a dick.
--
Roger Shoaf
If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent.
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"axolotl" <munge...@shorecomp.com> wrote in message
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> On 2/25/2010 1:20 PM, Ignoramus2215 wrote:
> Your trailer has a common failure point- the tires. You only have two,
> and you are operating near or over their limits.
This is a good point the maximum is the lesser of the rating of the tires or
the axel. if the tires are not rated for 3,000 lbs. each then your weight
limit will be the rating of the tires.
The weight of the tires are excluded from the calculation however. (2 times
each rating)
The wheels also have a maximum safe load, and if the wheels are rated lower
than the axel or the tires then you are over weight.
Ignoramus27062
>
> "axolotl" <munge...@shorecomp.com> wrote in message
> news:hm709m$ujq$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> On 2/25/2010 1:20 PM, Ignoramus2215 wrote:
>
>> Your trailer has a common failure point- the tires. You only have two,
>> and you are operating near or over their limits.
>
> This is a good point the maximum is the lesser of the rating of the tires or
> the axel. if the tires are not rated for 3,000 lbs. each then your weight
> limit will be the rating of the tires.
>
> The weight of the tires are excluded from the calculation however. (2 times
> each rating)
>
> The wheels also have a maximum safe load, and if the wheels are rated lower
> than the axel or the tires then you are over weight.
>
When I bought my trailer 2 years ago, I bought a brand new Al-Ko 6,000
lb axle, with everything else including suspension, brakes, wheels,
and tires. The tires are still quite good, since I do not use this
trailer often.
i
Ignoramus27062
> On 2010-02-26, Roger Shoaf <sh...@nospamsyix.com> wrote:
>>
>> "axolotl" <munge...@shorecomp.com> wrote in message
>> news:hm709m$ujq$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> On 2/25/2010 1:20 PM, Ignoramus2215 wrote:
>>
>>> Your trailer has a common failure point- the tires. You only have two,
>>> and you are operating near or over their limits.
>>
>> This is a good point the maximum is the lesser of the rating of the tires or
>> the axel. if the tires are not rated for 3,000 lbs. each then your weight
>> limit will be the rating of the tires.
>>
>> The weight of the tires are excluded from the calculation however. (2 times
>> each rating)
>>
>> The wheels also have a maximum safe load, and if the wheels are rated lower
>> than the axel or the tires then you are over weight.
>>
>
> When I bought my trailer 2 years ago, I bought a brand new Al-Ko 6,000
I do not know what I was thinking about, I meant to say "built my trailer".
i
Pete C.
Tires age, even if not being used, best to inspect them carefully. Also
best to validate the load rating of the tire printed on the sidewall,
not assume it was selected properly.
Again, with that high COG load, if you get a flat on your single axle
trailer, 95% probability the whole thing will go over. If this happens
at even 45 MPH it will be even less pretty. Also, with the high COG
load, even slow turns will be putting a lot more than 3,000# load on the
outside tire during the turn.
Be sure you have a camera with you to take before and after pictures...
Stormin Mormon
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Rent the trailer, put your trailer on the rented
trailer, put the mill
on your trailer....
Dave
Stormin Mormon
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gave him a rebuke about all that weight on the
donkey. So, the old man shrugged, and hefted the
bag of grain onto his own shoulders and kept
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On 2010-02-25, Dave__67 <spamT...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
> Rent the trailer, put your trailer on the rented
> trailer, put the mill
> on your trailer....
that was funny
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> "Hwy 88" where?
Sorry, the people's republic of Illinois.
i
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"Wes" <clu...@lycos.com> wrote in message
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Where I live, not much of a chance but I live in a
low density area. I often do 45MPH
down a divided highway so I don't get to work too
soon. I'd rather drive just fast enough
to get to work on time and listen to my podcasts.
To get to your issue, how much traffic are you
going to back up, as have backed up behind
you? If your route has a shoulder you can pull
over onto to allow those behind you to
pass you safely, I doubt you will get any grief.
I've brought a few things home from truck depots
that were tall relative to width and
drove really slow. As long as I moved over to let
people go, no one gets mad, no cop
station gets a cell phone call.
Check your six, let them get around you, you
should be fine.
Ignoramus27062
Tires that are rated for, say, 3,000 lbs do not magically burst at
3,001 lbs load.
It has a high COG, but not really that high, if I lower the knee.
It is supported by a triangle of two tires and the pintle.
I am not really claiming to be an expert, but, I think, I will be
fine.
The seller told me today that according to his findings, it weighs
3,000 lbs and not 5,000. I am not sure what to believe, but, I think
that I will be OK in any case.
i
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> "Ignoramus2215"
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>
>
>
> > "Hwy 88" where?
>
> Sorry, the people's republic of Illinois.
>
> i
That's really a good question; go in the off hours and risk some
transport truck or whoever plowing right into your backside (no one
drives at posted speed)- look at the number of fatalities when someone
has car trouble in the off hours
Pete C.
No, but a high COG load on a curve or turn applies substantially more or
the weight to the outside tire vs. the static loading. If you're loaded
up with 3,000# static load, it would not be at all unlikely for that
outside tire to see 5,000# or load on a modest turn.
>
> It has a high COG, but not really that high, if I lower the knee.
What is the track width of the trailer? Is it the max 8' and change, or
less? The smaller the track width, the more dramatic the effect.
>
> It is supported by a triangle of two tires and the pintle.
The pintle is the pivot point and provides no support side to side. The
pintle is where it will pivot when it tips over when you get a flat.
>
> I am not really claiming to be an expert, but, I think, I will be
> fine.
You may be fine, but you are pushing it near the limits so you have
little safety margin. A good pothole could do you in.
>
> The seller told me today that according to his findings, it weighs
> 3,000 lbs and not 5,000. I am not sure what to believe, but, I think
> that I will be OK in any case.
Since a basic series 1 weighs over 2,000#, I find it very difficult to
believe the much larger series 2 plus CNC controls and servos weighs
anywhere near 3,000#. 5,000# may be a bit over, but I wouldn't be at all
surprised if it weighs 4,500#+.
Like I said, bring a camera for before pictures to show the mill
properly secured, and any after pictures...
Ignoramus27062
>> Tires that are rated for, say, 3,000 lbs do not magically burst at
>> 3,001 lbs load.
>
> No, but a high COG load on a curve or turn applies substantially more or
> the weight to the outside tire vs. the static loading. If you're loaded
> up with 3,000# static load, it would not be at all unlikely for that
> outside tire to see 5,000# or load on a modest turn.
This depends severely on how sharp (speed vs. radius) is the turn,
which is something under my control.
>> It has a high COG, but not really that high, if I lower the knee.
>
> What is the track width of the trailer? Is it the max 8' and change,
> or less? The smaller the track width, the more dramatic the effect.
It is not 8 feet, but I think a little over 6 feet.
>>
>> It is supported by a triangle of two tires and the pintle.
>
> The pintle is the pivot point and provides no support side to side. The
> pintle is where it will pivot when it tips over when you get a flat.
>
Yes, but not from a flat tire.
>> I am not really claiming to be an expert, but, I think, I will be
>> fine.
>
> You may be fine, but you are pushing it near the limits so you have
> little safety margin. A good pothole could do you in.
I agree. It is close to the limit.
>>
>> The seller told me today that according to his findings, it weighs
>> 3,000 lbs and not 5,000. I am not sure what to believe, but, I think
>> that I will be OK in any case.
>
> Since a basic series 1 weighs over 2,000#, I find it very difficult to
> believe the much larger series 2 plus CNC controls and servos weighs
> anywhere near 3,000#. 5,000# may be a bit over, but I wouldn't be at all
> surprised if it weighs 4,500#+.
>
> Like I said, bring a camera for before pictures to show the mill
> properly secured, and any after pictures...
I will indeed do so.
i
Pete C.
All I can say is that I'd be a lot more comfortable with a dual axle
8.5' wide rental equipment trailer.
Ecnerwal
an overloaded, unsafe trailer, you will be treated like an overloaded,
unsafe trailer - when they get the cop with the scales in and if they
find you are actually overweight, expect the book to be thrown at you.
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Pete C.
Ecnerwal wrote:
>
> Whether or not you are driving at 40 in a 45 minimum, if you look like
> an overloaded, unsafe trailer, you will be treated like an overloaded,
> unsafe trailer - when they get the cop with the scales in and if they
> find you are actually overweight, expect the book to be thrown at you.
Except for the fact that there is no "weight book" for non-commercial
vehicles...
Ignoramus27062
I have never seen any mexicans with their overloaded trucks and
trailers, stopped.
i
Ecnerwal
"Pete C." <aux3....@snet.net> wrote:
As it happens, there often is. Illinois is one of many states where
trailers have a registration fee that varies by weight. Commercial or
not is not a consideration. It's certainly quite common for
non-commercial trailers to have a registered weight, and to be in
violation if exceeding that registered weight.
Exceeding the GVWR and GCWR is pretty much a violation anywhere - if
nothing else it's easily parked under "driving to endanger" because the
braking systems are not adequate to the load. Who and what actually gets
stopped varies with the cop and the level of revenue enhancment in
effect. The latter has been quite high the past year, as towns and state
departments try to milk the "alternate tax stream" of fines.
Jon Danniken
Of course not, that would be racist.
Jon
Wes
Is that a new law or a fairly old law? I left Indiana in 1975 for good, days after
graduating highschool.
Wes
Wes
>On 2010-02-26, Pete C. <aux3....@snet.net> wrote:
>>> Tires that are rated for, say, 3,000 lbs do not magically burst at
>>> 3,001 lbs load.
>>
>> No, but a high COG load on a curve or turn applies substantially more or
>> the weight to the outside tire vs. the static loading. If you're loaded
>> up with 3,000# static load, it would not be at all unlikely for that
>> outside tire to see 5,000# or load on a modest turn.
>
>This depends severely on how sharp (speed vs. radius) is the turn,
>which is something under my control.
Most tires go flat slowly.
I doubt a weight rating on a tire is based on only straight and level travel. I wonder
what a pothole feels like to the tire loaded to 3000#?
I would not use age cracked tires, I'd stop to feel wheel bearings, and I'd plan a route
that had no challenging terrain to traverse.
Wes
Doug Miller
That's when I graduated, too... It was on the books when I learned to drive.
Wes
>>>Indiana has a law requiring a driver to move over and allow vehicles to pass
>>>if he's obstructing more than *three*.
>>>
>>>Hardly anyone knows this.
>>>
>>>Including the police. :-(
>>
>>Is that a new law or a fairly old law? I left Indiana in 1975 for good, days after
>>graduating highschool.
>
>That's when I graduated, too... It was on the books when I learned to drive.
At that point in my life, there wasn't much chance of anyone keeping up to be behind me.
;)
Wes
Doug Miller
I drove a 1968 Dodge Dart with a 225 slant six...
cl...@snyder.on.ca
wrote:
Yes their is. The max GVW of the vehicle.
cl...@snyder.on.ca
wrote:
Which means it was good for 104 MPH. Still not too many going to be
wanting to pass. (my '69 did 104 for an hour straight across the
corner of Wyoming)
Pete C.
Not in the US. The ratings label on a non commercial vehicle has no
legal standing, it is a manufacturer's performance / longevity
recommendation only.
Kevin(Bluey)
> That Series II Bridgeport mill weighs 5000 lbs, plus or minus. My
> trailer axles are 6,000 lbs, which means that I will be slightly above
> the rating.
>
> The easiest way from the seller would be on a highway, which is
> actually a decently paved highway. In any case, I would like to drive
> slowly, like 40-45 miles an hour, this way I would get the best of
> both worlds, safe slow driving and highway quality road.
>
> My question is, how likely will the police be to hassle me for driving
> too slowly, if, say, the lowest speed limit is 45 and I am going 40.
I take it your speed limits are like ours , they are the highest speed
you are legally allowed to drive at in that zone .Any speed below the
posted speed limit is legal.
--
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"I'm not young enough to know everything."
Wes
>>At that point in my life, there wasn't much chance of anyone keeping up to be
>> behind me.
>>;)
>
>I drove a 1968 Dodge Dart with a 225 slant six...
68 Plymouth Belvedere Sta Wagon with a 318. Dad's Duster that the 225 with 3 on the tree.
Wes
>In <oBYhn.302097$o06.1...@en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com>, on Fri, 26 Feb
>2010 18:15:05 -0500, Wes, clu...@lycos.com wrote:
>
>> Most tires go flat slowly.
>
> Trailer tires don't seem to follow that rule as often
>as auto tires. This one sure didn't:
>http://wizard.dyndns.org/shiprock/0910/100_0935.s.jpg
Back when I had just got home for good from the Marines, a guy just down the road was
looking for a follow me driver. He delivered mobile homes. The job interview existed of,
how many points do you have on your license. He ended up finding a relative to do the job
instead of me. I wasn't all that disappointed.
As to the picture, I'd like to know the facts leading up to the blow out.
Wes
Doug Miller
>spam...@milmac.com (Doug Miller) wrote:
>
>>>At that point in my life, there wasn't much chance of anyone keeping up to be
>>> behind me.
>>>;)
>>
>>I drove a 1968 Dodge Dart with a 225 slant six...
>
>68 Plymouth Belvedere Sta Wagon with a 318. Dad's Duster that the 225 with 3
> on the tree.
The 318 had just a little more power than the 225... :-)
Wes
>In <BO7in.370933$N07.1...@en-nntp-05.dc1.easynews.com>, on Sat, 27 Feb
>2010 07:00:07 -0500, Wes, clu...@lycos.com wrote:
>> Steve Ackman <st...@SNIP-THIS.twoloonscoffee.com> wrote:
>>
>>>http://wizard.dyndns.org/shiprock/0910/100_0935.s.jpg
>>
>> He delivered mobile homes.
>
> I think mobile home tires are even more "fragile"
>than most trailer tires. Many of them are imprinted
>with something to the effect of "One time use only."
> I saw one pop going over a flush-with-ground tree
>stump. Saw another come off the rim as the home was
>being positioned on a slab.
If you ever looked at a mobile home hauler, they have at least 6 spare tires on board.
>
>> As to the picture, I'd like to know the facts leading up to the blow out.
>
> The trailer (GVWR-6000 lbs.) was purchased new
>Sept '08, with OEM tires:
>Duro F78-14ST -- ST205/75D14 with manuf. date of 2706.
>Load rating of 1760 lbs. @ 50 psi.
>
> Greased bearings and aired to ~52 psig @5000' above
>sea level. Drove ~2500 miles to destination, checking
>tire/wheel temperature by hand a couple times a day.
>(Same trip that we were cop-stopped in Illinois that
>generated a fairly long thread)
I took a trailer into Illinois once. That is an expensive state to cross.
>
> It was on the return trip. Tire pressure checked
>fine before we left. Still checking tire/wheel
>temperature by touch at least daily, so no bearing or
>brake problems.
>
> This would have been on I-40, speed limit 75mph
>IIRC, and I was doing about 65mph (I hardly ever
>exceed 65 with trailer, no matter what the limit):
>
>"18 Oct - Shredded tire
>
>Somewhere in OK... maybe around Henrietta, a guy went whizzing past us
>only to turn around in his seat and make rotational gestures with his
>hand. Well, that can't be good. There does seem to be a vague, barely
>audible, flapping noise. Guess we ought to slow down til we get to the
>next off-ramp."
>
> It was mid-morning, so we hadn't put many miles
>on the day yet. Total wear on tires - ~6500 miles
>that we'd put on, added to whatever the delivery to
>dealer was.
So was it an internal failure or an external puncture? From the weight ratings on tires it
obviously was a tandem axle rig.
cl...@snyder.on.ca
No, not here in Ontario, but they were in Wyoming in 1971.
104 was wide open on the 225 - but it would maintain 104 at half
throttle too.
My earlier 170 (shorter stroke engine) would do 123MPH all day if I
let it.
cl...@snyder.on.ca
>spam...@milmac.com (Doug Miller) wrote:
>
>>>At that point in my life, there wasn't much chance of anyone keeping up to be
>>> behind me.
>>>;)
>>
>>I drove a 1968 Dodge Dart with a 225 slant six...
>
>68 Plymouth Belvedere Sta Wagon with a 318. Dad's Duster that the 225 with 3 on the tree.
>
>Wes
1953 Coronet Sierra Wagon 241 Hemi (3 speed + OD)
1957 Fargo 261 flathead Custom Express - 3 speed
1963 Valiant V100Custom 4 door 170 PB Automatic (Modified - 200+ HP)
1969 Dart Custom 4 door 225 automatic
1974 Dart Sport 225 automatic
1976 RamCXharger SE 4WD automatic - 318
1985 Lebaron T&C wagon - 2.6liter MitsoShitty Hemi automatic
1988 New Yorker 3.0 liter MitsoShitty V6 3 speed automatic
2002 PT Cruiser 2.4L 4 speed automatic
cl...@snyder.on.ca
wrote:
>In article <%I7in.243812$tq1.2...@en-nntp-03.dc1.easynews.com>, clu...@lycos.com wrote:
In 1968 the 3580 lb Belvedere V8 wagon had 230hp, for 15.56 lb/hp
while in 69 the 2550 lb 225 Dart Custom 4 door put out 145 HP for
17.58 lb/HP.
So not a REAL BIG performance difference. Something like 13%?
Wes
>The 318 had just a little more power than the 225... :-)
It was the old 318 with mechanical lifters. Something 16 year old was more than willing
to adjust lash on. Actually, it ran a lot better after I reset valve lash.
Ignoramus19261
>
> I took a trailer into Illinois once. That is an expensive state to cross.
>
Wes, I hope that I did not forget if you mentioned it already, but
what happened?
Mike Henry
"Ignoramus2215" <ignora...@NOSPAM.2215.invalid> wrote in message
news:LtCdnQavgeq5XhvW...@giganews.com...
> On 2010-02-25, Doug Miller <spam...@milmac.com> wrote:
>> In article <0_idnWca2ZbpIhvW...@giganews.com>, Ignoramus2215
>>>That Series II Bridgeport mill weighs 5000 lbs, plus or minus. My
>>>trailer axles are 6,000 lbs, which means that I will be slightly above
>>>the rating.
>>>
>>>The easiest way from the seller would be on a highway, which is
>>>actually a decently paved highway. In any case, I would like to drive
>>>slowly, like 40-45 miles an hour, this way I would get the best of
>>>both worlds, safe slow driving and highway quality road.
>>>
>>>My question is, how likely will the police be to hassle me for driving
>>>too slowly, if, say, the lowest speed limit is 45 and I am going 40.
>>
>> Interstate
>> highways typically have a minimum speed of 45, and if you're going slower
>> than
>> that you're creating a considerable traffic hazard, as well as risking a
>> ticket for violating the law. 40mph, with hazard flashers, on a State or
>> U.S.
>> highway, isn't nearly such a problem, since the speeds are typically
>> lower
>> anyway on such routes.
>>
>> If you're not going to be driving any faster than 40, you don't belong on
>> an
>> interstate highway, or any other high-speed limited access road.
>
> It is Hwy 88, which I think is considered an interstate. I think, I
> can drive 45 mph without problems.
>
> i
I drive I-88 every week day and while I've no direct experience, doubt that
you will have any trouble from State police so long as your trailer is not
weaving or obviously overloaded. Weekends there are always a few folks
driving at or slower than the speed limit in the rightmost lanes so you will
fit right in with them. Weekdays you'd better be doing 60 in all lanes or
will get run over.
Mike
Wes
Your toll fees for a pickup with a trailer are excessive. Nothing other than wallet
lightening.
Wes
Wes
>No, not here in Ontario, but they were in Wyoming in 1971.
>104 was wide open on the 225 - but it would maintain 104 at half
>throttle too.
>My earlier 170 (shorter stroke engine) would do 123MPH all day if I
>let it.
My 68 Dodge Sta Wagon with the newer 318 could do 126MPH @ 6000 rpm (self imposed
redline) with the gearing I ran. Crane cam, headman headers, edelbrock tarantula, 4bbl,
port work, 3.55 posi, A-727 torqflite.
Got passed by a Ferrari once, caught up to him really quick, he didn't know what to think.
I was willing to go faster than he was.
Wes
Bruce L. Bergman
>On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 00:57:43 GMT, spam...@milmac.com (Doug Miller)wrote:
>>In article <qSZhn.332660$FK3.1...@en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com>, clu...@lycos.com wrote:
>>>spam...@milmac.com (Doug Miller) wrote:
>>>>>>Indiana has a law requiring a driver to move over and allow vehicles to pass
>>>
>>>>>>if he's obstructing more than *three*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hardly anyone knows this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Including the police. :-(
>>>>>
>>>>>Is that a new law or a fairly old law? I left Indiana in 1975 for good, days
>>> after
>>>>>graduating highschool.
>>>>
>>>>That's when I graduated, too... It was on the books when I learned to drive.
>>>
>>>
>>>At that point in my life, there wasn't much chance of anyone keeping up to be
>>> behind me.
California's has been on the books forever, and IIRC if you have a
parade of six or more behind you, pull over and let them by.
But common sense says to do it after one or two when you find a good
spot, and more urgently with three plus behind you...
Because if any one of those drivers gets impatient (and they will!)
one of them is going to try a bonehead move like passing over the
blind crest of a hill...
Then you see the SEMI coming the other way with a car passing him...
Now you're the Dead Meat in the middle of a four-car sandwich with
no place to go. Trust me, that is NOT a good place to be.
>>I drove a 1968 Dodge Dart with a 225 slant six...
> Which means it was good for 104 MPH. Still not too many going to be
>wanting to pass. (my '69 did 104 for an hour straight across the
>corner of Wyoming)
You want a slug, my 62 IH Scout with the Continental 152 and either
4.11 or 4.27 gears. Take the 304 (great motor) and chop off one bank.
One of my customers still has the Dart GTS with the 340 CID sleeper
motor in it as her Daily Driver. Little Old Lady from Studio City...
Twice she's tried relegating it to Spare Car and buying a newer car,
having computer problems or other modern stupidity with the new car
where it was spending weeks at the dealer.
Then selling it off and going back to the Dart, and that little
bugger still purrs like a kitten - till you let it growl...
More power to her.
--<< Bruce >>--
Bruce L. Bergman
wrote:
>cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 11:14:53 -0600, "Pete C." <aux3....@snet.net>
>> wrote:
>> >Ecnerwal wrote:
>> >> Whether or not you are driving at 40 in a 45 minimum, if you look like
>> >> an overloaded, unsafe trailer, you will be treated like an overloaded,
>> >> unsafe trailer - when they get the cop with the scales in and if they
>> >> find you are actually overweight, expect the book to be thrown at you.
>> >
>> >Except for the fact that there is no "weight book" for non-commercial
>> >vehicles...
>> Yes their is. The max GVW of the vehicle.
And the tires - that load rating is NOT a "recommendation".
>Not in the US. The ratings label on a non commercial vehicle has no
>legal standing, it is a manufacturer's performance / longevity
>recommendation only.
I believe they changed that - Toyota was tired of getting burned
when Motorhome builders flaunted the law by "Re-Rating" the chassis by
adding overload springs and funky Siamese dual wheels to a
semi-floating axle that couldn't take the extra load.
And/Or the Motorhome builders added a Tag Axle on air springs to
carry part of the load, allowing them to stretch the heck out of the
chassis - and the owners never checked the pressure in the airbags,
rendering it inert and throwing even more weight on the drive axle.
Oh, and no brakes on the tag axles, either.
Then Toyota was left to pick up the pieces when the axles broke
under warranty - they shipped a lot of "Free" crated full-floater axle
kits for dealer retrofit (with a set of dual rims, tires not included)
and that couldn't have been cheap.
Toyota stopped selling Cab Chassis "Incomplete Vehicles" in the US
for many years till that law was modified. AIUI, Now if the final
manufacturer re-rates it, they are totally responsible for it,
warranty and legal liability.
Been there, Done that, checked the air on those tag axles weekly
like a religion.
Dad lost the left rear tires on the 84 or 86 Dolphin Motorhome when
the axle shaft snapped just outboard of the bearings, and those tires
(still bolted to the brake drum) ripped the hell out of the holding
tanks and the bathroom floor on their way out the back wall... Then
it dropped him on the freeway still going about 45 - fast stop.
We had to get a trailer hitch on the Cressida, rent a box trailer,
and go pick up all the contents while the motorhome was in the shop.
For almost two months - after they installed the new axle in Barstow,
we had to literally duct-tape the body together and limp it to the
Dolphin factory in Perris.
--<< Bruce >>--
Michael A. Terrell
Wes wrote:
>
> Steve Ackman <st...@SNIP-THIS.twoloonscoffee.com> wrote:
>
> >In <BO7in.370933$N07.1...@en-nntp-05.dc1.easynews.com>, on Sat, 27 Feb
> >2010 07:00:07 -0500, Wes, clu...@lycos.com wrote:
> >> Steve Ackman <st...@SNIP-THIS.twoloonscoffee.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>http://wizard.dyndns.org/shiprock/0910/100_0935.s.jpg
> >>
> >> He delivered mobile homes.
> >
> > I think mobile home tires are even more "fragile"
> >than most trailer tires. Many of them are imprinted
> >with something to the effect of "One time use only."
> > I saw one pop going over a flush-with-ground tree
> >stump. Saw another come off the rim as the home was
> >being positioned on a slab.
>
> If you ever looked at a mobile home hauler, they have at least 6 spare tires on board.
Some even carry a spare axle or two.
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on Fri, 26 Feb
2010 18:15:05 -0500, Wes, clu...@lycos.com wrote:
> Most tires go flat slowly.
Trailer tires don't seem to follow that rule as
often
as auto tires. This one sure didn't:
http://wizard.dyndns.org/shiprock/0910/100_0935.s.jpg
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> So was it an internal failure or an external
> puncture?
Dunno *for sure* but I certainly suspect
internal
failure. This angle is proabably the one I should
have
posted first:
http://wizard.dyndns.org/shiprock/0910/100_0937.s.jpg
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>"Ignoramus2215" <ignora...@NOSPAM.2215.invalid> wrote in message
>news:0_idnWca2ZbpIhvW...@giganews.com...
>> That Series II Bridgeport mill weighs 5000 lbs, plus or minus. My
>> trailer axles are 6,000 lbs, which means that I will be slightly above
>> the rating.
>>
>> The easiest way from the seller would be on a highway, which is
>> actually a decently paved highway. In any case, I would like to drive
>> slowly, like 40-45 miles an hour, this way I would get the best of
>> both worlds, safe slow driving and highway quality road.
>>
>> My question is, how likely will the police be to hassle me for driving
>> too slowly, if, say, the lowest speed limit is 45 and I am going 40.
>
>It is not against the law to travel slower than the posted speed limit if
>you have a reason for doing so, even in places that have minimum limits.
>Common sense prevails that if you know you have a squirrelly load you should
>avoid peek traffic times.
>
>If you do get stopped and asked why you were going slower, tell the officer
>that you felt it prudent not to push the limits of the vehicle given that
>you have a bigger than normal load, and you would prefer not to have to make
>a panic stop. Worst case is the moron gives you a ticket for going too slow
>and then you can take it up with the judge. But that is not likely to
>happen.
If you do get stopped state you are driving slow due to the high
center of gravity of the load, If they check weight and you are over
the fine could be big! I'm told here in PA it's $3.00 per pound over
your GVW of the trailer.
Around here, they have ads on the radio all the time about wearing
your seatbelt, "You will be stopped and cited" however speeding, not
using turn signals, going through red lights and not having your
lights on in a down pour are all ignored.
Thank You,
Randy
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Steve B
"Randy" <rbra...@enter.net> wrote
> If you do get stopped state you are driving slow due to the high
> center of gravity of the load, If they check weight and you are over
> the fine could be big! I'm told here in PA it's $3.00 per pound over
> your GVW of the trailer.
>
> Around here, they have ads on the radio all the time about wearing
> your seatbelt, "You will be stopped and cited" however speeding, not
> using turn signals, going through red lights and not having your
> lights on in a down pour are all ignored.
>
> Thank You,
> Randy
If I know Iggy, I am expecting a post any day: Lathe moved and installed.
Get r' done, Iggy.
Steve
Ignoramus11220
> If I know Iggy, I am expecting a post any day: Lathe moved and installed.
> Get r' done, Iggy.
I will post an update on Friday.
Thanks Steve.
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