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Stu Fields

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Mar 20, 2010, 1:14:39 PM3/20/10
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I have a number of plastic parts bins purchased from Global. I want to put
some adhesive backed computer generated labels on the bins. The labels peel
off after about a week. Any ideas on what adhesive to use?? I've tried
Elmers, hot glue and some acrylic. None of these seem to work. Global has
said they don't know either>>>

Stu Fields


Existential Angst

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Mar 20, 2010, 1:34:44 PM3/20/10
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"Stu Fields" <e...@iwvisp.com> wrote in message
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Two-part epoxies? Silicone caulk? Pliobond?
Tar? :)
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BQ340

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Mar 20, 2010, 1:56:28 PM3/20/10
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Don't they have a molded-in label holder? Can you cut some stiff paper
to fit that, then affix label to that?

Otherwise maybe a small dab of RTV silicone on the back of the label to
boost the adhesive? Also are you using name-brand labels with good adhesive.

MikeB

David Billington

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Mar 20, 2010, 1:59:47 PM3/20/10
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Have you tried de-greasing the surface that you want the label to stick
on. I got a self-adhesive hook for hanging a hand towel on and it fell
off the wall after about half an hour, the adhesive pad was stuck to the
wall still but not the plastic hook. I de-greased it and put the hook
back on the pad and it's still in place maybe 6 months later. I presume
there was some form of release agent still on the surface preventing
proper adhesion.

Jim Wilkins

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Mar 20, 2010, 2:06:07 PM3/20/10
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I've had the best results from file folder labels with colored stripes
across the top.

jsw

Stu Fields

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Mar 20, 2010, 2:12:46 PM3/20/10
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"BQ340" <BQ...@roadrunner.com> wrote in message
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Thanks Mike I haven't tried the RTV but the bins don't have the slide in
label holder. I was too cheap to get those bins.
Stu


Stu Fields

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Mar 20, 2010, 2:13:48 PM3/20/10
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"David Billington" <d...@djbillington.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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David: Thanks for the idea. I'll try it.

Stu


Jerry Wass

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Mar 20, 2010, 3:32:20 PM3/20/10
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The bins are probably exuding some plasticizer--cook 'em in the sun a
couple of days-- that should get rid of it---The degreasing may work,
but some more may exude later--popping the labels Jerry

Joseph Gwinn

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Mar 20, 2010, 3:59:18 PM3/20/10
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In article <XfqdnZjXSfbinzjW...@linkline.com>,
"Stu Fields" <e...@iwvisp.com> wrote:

What plastic are the bins made of? There should be a recycle logo on the bottom
telling the story. If the bins are polyethylene (many bins are), only adhesives
meant for polyethylene are going to work. I have bought such labels from
scientific supply houses, and have yet to have a label fall off. But these
labels are not suited to computer printing - I use a sharpie.

Joe Gwinn

Richard J Kinch

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Mar 20, 2010, 4:57:46 PM3/20/10
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Stu Fields writes:

> Any ideas on what adhesive to use?

Pitney Bowes or Office Depot brand *permanent* postage meter labels.

They have stayed stuck for decades.

Ecnerwal

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Mar 20, 2010, 6:04:48 PM3/20/10
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In article <XfqdnZjXSfbinzjW...@linkline.com>,
"Stu Fields" <e...@iwvisp.com> wrote:

Clear tape over.

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John

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Mar 20, 2010, 6:09:14 PM3/20/10
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Double sided tape and degrease first.

John

sta...@prolynx.com

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Mar 20, 2010, 7:24:32 PM3/20/10
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Brother PTouch using the tape with extra-strength stickum. You can
get several models with USB connections for PCs or there's a computer-
only version.

Computer printer labels, like come in sheets, have two versions, one
with removable adhesive, one that's more or less permanent. Had some
of the permanent sort on some computer tapes, the paper peeled off
after many years, the adhesive stayed put as a rock-hard layer. And
none of them are improved by age. Had a box of labels from the back of
the warehouse, when opened, the labels just fell off the backing. No
stick left to the adhesive.

There might be some mold release left on the plastic, too. A lot of
it is silicone and it's a bear to remove. Might have to sand to get
down to clean plastic.

Stan

Monkey Butler

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Mar 20, 2010, 7:30:49 PM3/20/10
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Like everyone else says use a degreaser to get any mold release off
but you might also follow this tip. You know the red Loctite bottles?
They seem like a similar material to plastic bins. In order to get the
white printing to stick the factory passes the surface over a flame
before printing. Not so much to melt the surface but apparently it
causes some sort of chemical reaction that makes the surface more
receptive to coating.

dca...@krl.org

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Mar 20, 2010, 7:50:36 PM3/20/10
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On Mar 20, 7:30 pm, Monkey Butler <x...@monkeybutler.com> wrote:
> You know the red Loctite bottles?
> They seem like a similar material to plastic bins. In order to get the
> white printing to stick the factory passes the surface over a flame
> before printing. Not so much to melt the surface but apparently it
> causes some sort of chemical reaction that makes the surface more
> receptive to coating.

or you can use a neon sign transformer to generate plasma and use the
plasma to treat the surface. IIRC a flame or plasma will oxidize the
surface. Not necessary except on plastics as poly and teflon.


Dan

Joe Pfeiffer

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Mar 20, 2010, 8:39:28 PM3/20/10
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"Stu Fields" <e...@iwvisp.com> writes:

What sort of adhesive is on the labels you're using? Avery has both
"permanent" and "removable" labels; I can easily imagine the removable
labels peeling off in a hurry. If it's really supposed to be a
permanent label, I wonder if there's contamination on the bin or
something.
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be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours;
and this we should do freely and generously. (Benjamin Franklin)

DoN. Nichols

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Mar 20, 2010, 9:55:08 PM3/20/10
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Hmm ... what would high-intensity UV do? (Other than give you a
sunburn. :-)

Also -- what does a contact cement like Pliobond do for this
problem?

Enjoy,
DoN.

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Robert Roland

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Mar 21, 2010, 5:59:32 AM3/21/10
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On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 10:14:39 -0700, "Stu Fields" <e...@iwvisp.com>
wrote:

Before you can even *think* of gluing plastics, you *must* know what
type of plastic you are dealing with. Different types of plastic can
have very different properties.
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Larry Jaques

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Mar 21, 2010, 12:21:47 PM3/21/10
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On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 10:14:39 -0700, the infamous "Stu Fields"
<e...@iwvisp.com> scrawled the following:

Don't they have slide-in tag holders on the front?

If not, use a piece of clear plexi and drill/screw the label-sized
piece on the bin.

Note: While open bins are handy, I hate them because they collect dust
so easily. I much prefer the closed style cabinets with openable
drawers for that reason. Clear drawers help you see what you want.

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Bob La Londe

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Mar 21, 2010, 1:01:07 PM3/21/10
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Don't they have slots to slide a card into the front? Just print cards and
slide them into the slots if that's the case.

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Michael A. Terrell

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Mar 21, 2010, 3:43:02 PM3/21/10
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Stu Fields wrote:
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> Thanks Mike I haven't tried the RTV but the bins don't have the slide in
> label holder. I was too cheap to get those bins.


Make some metal plates & screw them to the front of the bins. You
won't have any problem with them sticking, or when changing labels. The
metal won't scratch like the plastic, and will add some strength to the
front of the bins.


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Steve W.

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Mar 21, 2010, 5:25:34 PM3/21/10
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> "Stu Fields" <e...@iwvisp.com> wrote in message
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>> I have a number of plastic parts bins purchased from Global. I want
>> to put some adhesive backed computer generated labels on the bins.
>> The labels peel off after about a week. Any ideas on what adhesive to
>> use?? I've tried Elmers, hot glue and some acrylic. None of these
>> seem to work. Global has said they don't know either>>>
>>
>> Stu Fields
>>

Mold release is still on them. Not much will stick to that stuff. Wipe
the area your putting the stickers with alcohol first, let dry and they
should stay. Have the same issue with most bins.

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Stu Fields

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Mar 21, 2010, 6:40:52 PM3/21/10
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"Stu Fields" <e...@iwvisp.com> wrote in message
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Boy did I come to the right place. I got enough answers I know one will
work.
Thanks a bunch...I'm back to work..


Pete C.

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Mar 21, 2010, 7:36:33 PM3/21/10
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There are P-Touch label carts available with heavy duty adhesive that
should stick just fine if you clean the surface with some alcohol before
applying the label.

Jon Elson

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Mar 22, 2010, 7:18:12 PM3/22/10
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I've used Brother's laminated tape printer stuff, it sticks so well it
is hard to get off. But, I think putting Scotch magic tape over the
printed label would hold on most drawers.

Jon

Bob La Londe

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Mar 29, 2010, 4:11:53 PM3/29/10
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Engrave them

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