Harbor Freight helmet stopped working
Ignoramus2187
stopped darkening when I strike the arc. This is a solar model. Is
there some easy for for them or not. Thanks.
i
Winston
This one?
http://www.harborfreight.com/manuals/46000-46999/46092.pdf
Manual says the lithium batteries should be good for 6 years.
Also suggests that the cover plate might need replacement.
--Winston
Gunner Asch
Take it back and exchange it for a new one, assuming that the charge bar
is clean and not covered.
It should be noted that many of them will require a bit of charging
before they darken properly..if they have been put in a cupboard or out
of bright light.
Set it in the sun for 15 minutes and then try it again.
Gunner who likes the HF helmets..but LOVES his Optrel Satellite!!!
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protect ones vision. That could really mess up the rest of
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Chet
I only weld periodically, so before using the helmet I let it charge in the
sunlight for about 15 minutes as Gunner suggested.
I then test it by looking at a bare lightbulb, or a strong sun reflection on
a metal surface.
Shade should dim...
If it dims, you're good to go...
Chet
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Pete C.
Stormin Mormon wrote:
>
> I'd be very concerned, about a welding helmet that didn't
> protect ones vision. That could really mess up the rest of
> your life, if you go blind.
Realize that the auto dark lenses block IR and UV 100% of the time.
Ignoramus9593
Yes, it is 100% safe to weld with a non-darkening helmet, it is just
inconvenient. Even when it does not darken, it blocks IR and UV, and
actually provides some darkening as well. Dark or not, it provides
about same level of protection.
i
Ignoramus9593
> On 4/18/2010 8:39 PM, Ignoramus2187 wrote:
>> I have a Harbor Freight helmet and, it seems, it stopped working and
>> stopped darkening when I strike the arc. This is a solar model. Is
>> there some easy for for them or not. Thanks.
>
> This one?
> http://www.harborfreight.com/manuals/46000-46999/46092.pdf
Yep
> Manual says the lithium batteries should be good for 6 years.
> Also suggests that the cover plate might need replacement.
I will see what I can do. The current was low (60 amps or so). That
might explain it.
i
RBnDFW
IIRC mine has removable batteries - AA or AAA rechargables
Pop some new ones in it and see if it works.
Stormin Mormon
don't have that much confidence.
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Gunner Asch
<cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Not sure I want to trust my eye sight to a HF product. I
>don't have that much confidence.
Actually..many of their products are Quite Good. Some are even
outstanding. A few is junk, but most..most is good enough for weekend
workers. And their warranty is Excellent.
I give them a strong B+ for products/price.
An example...
Their 4" welding grinders cost $19 normally, $15 on sale. They last at
least 5 yrs. I have 4 of them that are at least that old ..and I use
them regularly.
A matching Makita, Millwaukee, Metabo etc etc start off at $65 and go to
$145. They work the same with plenty of horsepower, as the Makita etc
etc. I can buy 6 of them, for the price of one Metabo
And frankly..I can use 6 of them where one Metabo is simply not enough.
Gunner
Bill McKee
"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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You will not go blind from it not darkening. Temporarily you will be
blinded due to the brightness, but the lens will still block the UV rays.
Which do the real damage. I would check the batteries. My Jackson helmet
would not turn on, and the batteries were dead or weak. It also charges
from the sun or welding, but I spent about $8 at Walmart for two more
batteries.
Steve B
"Bill McKee" <bmckee...@ix.netcom.com> wrote
. It also charges
> from the sun or welding, but I spent about $8 at Walmart for two more
> batteries.
Ain't it ridiculous? You can get a decent watch at a yard sale for a buck,
and then, it's $5 to $8 for a battery.
It's as big a scam as printer ink. They should GIVE you printers for what
you have to pay for a lifetime of ink for them.
Steve
Wes
>I've got one of Harbor Freight's helmets.
>I only weld periodically, so before using the helmet I let it charge in the
>sunlight for about 15 minutes as Gunner suggested.
>I then test it by looking at a bare lightbulb, or a strong sun reflection on
>a metal surface.
>Shade should dim...
>If it dims, you're good to go...
>Chet
Damn annoying when the back up strobe on a fork lift mutes your helmet. It does provide
an indication that the helmet is working though.
Wes
Wes
>
>"Bill McKee" <bmckee...@ix.netcom.com> wrote
>
>. It also charges
>> from the sun or welding, but I spent about $8 at Walmart for two more
>> batteries.
>
>Ain't it ridiculous? You can get a decent watch at a yard sale for a buck,
>and then, it's $5 to $8 for a battery.
Those button batteries must be a cash cow. I paid something like 3.99 for two SR44
batteries this winter for my 0-1 and 1-2 Mitutoyo digimic's. Didn't get 6 months before
the B indicator is telling my batteries are almost dead.
>
>It's as big a scam as printer ink. They should GIVE you printers for what
>you have to pay for a lifetime of ink for them.
Well if you look at the pricing on printers, they do almost give them to you. I'd rather
pay for the printer and get the ink at a fair price. HP has gone as far as to chip the
cartridges to make sure they die inside the profit projection. There is where a class
action suit needs to happen. That lawnmower motor thing was small time by comparison.
Wes
Steve B
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I know. They were talking about $35 for the lawnmower thing. I'm thinking
$3500 for the printer thing. Now that's one I'd send in the free postage
reply card to.
Steve
RAMł
news:%R5zn.62426$7n7....@en-nntp-14.dc1.easynews.com:
> Those button batteries must be a cash cow. I paid something like 3.99
> for two SR44 batteries this winter for my 0-1 and 1-2 Mitutoyo
> digimic's. Didn't get 6 months before the B indicator is telling my
> batteries are almost dead.
For LR44s I get the magnet-bottomed flex-shafted LED flashlights.
Not only do these come with 3 batteries installed but also provide 3 spares
- all for $2.99 at Wally World. <grin> That makes the batteries about 50
cents each...
Just be sure to get the ones hanging at the rear of the hook...and that the
"test" lighting actually produces illumination.
Pilgrim
College. There is a dealer who has all kinds of imported things [some
junk] others acceptable. One thing he sells is cards of TEN button cells
for $1.00 for each card. Have used them for years in all kinds of
things. I have even made up 15volt batteries that an old Tripplet meter
uses. Now you know how badly the local drug or variety are ripping us
off. Check out your local FM.
Chuck P.
Gunner Asch
Just a heads up...seriously big difference in LR44 and SR44 batteries.
the chain called 99Cents Only sells 10 LR44s for ...99cents
Only problem is..they only last about 3 months in most digital measuring
devices.
Gerald Miller
Last LR44 batteries I bought were ten for a buck at Dollarama
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada
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Cites, please?
Larry Jaques
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I get 3-12 batteries from HongKong, including shipping, for a couple
bucks. www.eBay.com is your friend.
Spehro Pefhany
If you're ordering from Digikey anyway, they're about 50 cents each
for 10 (Energizer brand) or less than half that from DXtreme (Gold
Peak brand).
A customer I was doing some design work for in Hong Kong was astounded
to find that it would cost end users more than he sold the whole
product for to buy a set of replacement button cells at retail (they
included a set with the product- actual cost less than a dime
depending on the brand, more for Japanese brand less for Chinese
brand, but all made in China).
Best regards,
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Pete C.
Larry Jaques wrote:
>
> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 08:50:11 -0500, the infamous Ignoramus9593
> <ignora...@NOSPAM.9593.invalid> scrawled the following:
>
> >On 2010-04-19, Pete C. <aux3....@snet.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Stormin Mormon wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I'd be very concerned, about a welding helmet that didn't
> >>> protect ones vision. That could really mess up the rest of
> >>> your life, if you go blind.
> >>
> >> Realize that the auto dark lenses block IR and UV 100% of the time.
> >
> >Yes, it is 100% safe to weld with a non-darkening helmet, it is just
> >inconvenient. Even when it does not darken, it blocks IR and UV, and
> >actually provides some darkening as well. Dark or not, it provides
> >about same level of protection.
>
> Cites, please?
http://www.harborfreight.com/manuals/46000-46999/46092.pdf
Page 5 in the specifications and page 7:
"The ultra high performance of UV and IR Auto-Darkening filters provides
to the user’s eyes and face full protection against UV and IR radiation
during the entire welding process, even in the clear state. The UV/IR
protection level is up to shade 16 at all times."
Also
http://www.jacksonsafety.com/catalog/
On page 50 you will find the same thing listed under Bandpass filter,
"Jackson EQCs bandpass protects to a shade 14, even in the 'off' state".
Pete Snell
>>> Realize that the auto dark lenses block IR and UV 100% of the time.
>> Yes, it is 100% safe to weld with a non-darkening helmet, it is just
>> inconvenient. Even when it does not darken, it blocks IR and UV, and
>> actually provides some darkening as well. Dark or not, it provides
>> about same level of protection.
>
> Cites, please?
>
<http://lincolnelectric.ca/knowledge/articles/content/weldinglenses.asp>
Pete
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RBnDFW
> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:42:45 -0700, Pilgrim <pil...@noemail.net> wrote:
>
>> I live in the SF Bay Area. There is a Sunday flea market at Laney
>> College. There is a dealer who has all kinds of imported things [some
>> junk] others acceptable. One thing he sells is cards of TEN button cells
>> for $1.00 for each card. Have used them for years in all kinds of
>> things. I have even made up 15volt batteries that an old Tripplet meter
>> uses. Now you know how badly the local drug or variety are ripping us
>> off. Check out your local FM.
>>
>> Chuck P.
>
>
> Just a heads up...seriously big difference in LR44 and SR44 batteries.
>
> the chain called 99Cents Only sells 10 LR44s for ...99cents
>
> Only problem is..they only last about 3 months in most digital measuring
> devices.
I bought a bunch of Eveready SR44s for less than a buck each from some
online Mom who had to buy bulk for her kid's medical device.
Gunner Asch
<spef...@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
>On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 01:56:52 +0000 (UTC), the renowned "RAMł"
><s31924...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>>Wes <ClutchAtL...@Gmail.com> wrote in
>>news:%R5zn.62426$7n7....@en-nntp-14.dc1.easynews.com:
>>
>>> Those button batteries must be a cash cow. I paid something like 3.99
>>> for two SR44 batteries this winter for my 0-1 and 1-2 Mitutoyo
>>> digimic's. Didn't get 6 months before the B indicator is telling my
>>> batteries are almost dead.
>>
>>For LR44s I get the magnet-bottomed flex-shafted LED flashlights.
>>
>>Not only do these come with 3 batteries installed but also provide 3 spares
>>- all for $2.99 at Wally World. <grin> That makes the batteries about 50
>>cents each...
>>
>>Just be sure to get the ones hanging at the rear of the hook...and that the
>>"test" lighting actually produces illumination.
>
>If you're ordering from Digikey anyway, they're about 50 cents each
>for 10 (Energizer brand) or less than half that from DXtreme (Gold
>Peak brand).
LR44s???? Perk! Id stock up on them if they were that cheap.
Gunner
>
>A customer I was doing some design work for in Hong Kong was astounded
>to find that it would cost end users more than he sold the whole
>product for to buy a set of replacement button cells at retail (they
>included a set with the product- actual cost less than a dime
>depending on the brand, more for Japanese brand less for Chinese
>brand, but all made in China).
>
>
>Best regards,
>Spehro Pefhany
Spehro Pefhany
<gunne...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:42:45 -0700, Pilgrim <pil...@noemail.net> wrote:
>
>>I live in the SF Bay Area. There is a Sunday flea market at Laney
>>College. There is a dealer who has all kinds of imported things [some
>>junk] others acceptable. One thing he sells is cards of TEN button cells
>>for $1.00 for each card. Have used them for years in all kinds of
>>things. I have even made up 15volt batteries that an old Tripplet meter
>>uses. Now you know how badly the local drug or variety are ripping us
>>off. Check out your local FM.
>>
>>Chuck P.
>
>
>Just a heads up...seriously big difference in LR44 and SR44 batteries.
>
>the chain called 99Cents Only sells 10 LR44s for ...99cents
Are they branded GP, Panasonic or something known? Or something like
"Sunbeam"?
>Only problem is..they only last about 3 months in most digital measuring
>devices.
>
>Gunner
LR44/A76 are Alkaline cells. $5.54 for 10 at Digikey
rated 150 mAh (to 0.9 volts) with a 7.5K load (Energizer brand)
(at 1.2V terminal voltage you'll get only about 75% of that.
SR44/357 are Silver Oxide. $13.87 for 10 at Digikey.
rated 195 mAh (to 1.2 volts) with a 6.5k load (Energizer brand)
If the electronics quits at 1.2V you'd expect around 57% of
the life out of the Alkalines for 40% of the cost.
http://data.energizer.com/PDFs/A76.pdf
http://data.energizer.com/PDFs/357-303H.pdf
But there are probably some pretty lousy generic cells out there where
they cut corners on the energy content etc.
Sano
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> You will not go blind from it not darkening. Temporarily you will be
> blinded due to the brightness, but the lens will still block the UV
> rays. Which do the real damage. I would check the batteries. My
> Jackson helmet would not turn on, and the batteries were dead or
> weak. It also charges from the sun or welding, but I spent about $8
> at Walmart for two more batteries.
Thank you, glad you brought that up. ;)
Steve B
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I always pick up four batteries when they are on sale. I would buy more,
but I don't like them sitting around that long before use. Then I use a
little digital meter to test the old one and the new one. And older weak
one will still function down to a certain level, but I like to keep one in
there that's "hot".
Steve
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>
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>> "Bill McKee" <bmckee...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
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>>
>>
>>> You will not go blind from it not darkening. Temporarily you will be
>>> blinded due to the brightness, but the lens will still block the UV
>>> rays. Which do the real damage. I would check the batteries. My
>>> Jackson helmet would not turn on, and the batteries were dead or
>>> weak. It also charges from the sun or welding, but I spent about $8
>>> at Walmart for two more batteries.
>>
>> Thank you, glad you brought that up. ;)
>
> I always pick up four batteries when they are on sale. I would buy more,
> but I don't like them sitting around that long before use.
Note that you can significantly extend the shelf life of a cell
or battery by refrigerating it. You probably don't want to truly freeze
it, as that could burst the cell, but put them in a ziploc baggie and
keep them in the unfrozen food section of the 'fridge.
Enjoy,
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[ but I don't like them sitting around that long before use.
>
> Note that you can significantly extend the shelf life of a cell
> or battery by refrigerating it. You probably don't want to truly freeze
> it, as that could burst the cell, but put them in a ziploc baggie and
> keep them in the unfrozen food section of the 'fridge.
>
> Enjoy,
> DoN.]
just a note: one place I've found very inexpensive (maybe $3 for a
pack of 4 or 6) button cells of all sizes is at Princess Auto which I
suppose is the Canadian equivalent to HF....certainly carries much of
the same re-branded stuff, so you might look there if you are in need.
FYI
cheers,
-m
in Ottawa