Re: 3-in-1 oil rant
cavelamb
> So I've had this "tin" of 3-in-1 oil around for years - for the yearly
> 4-drop oiling of the radiant heating pump motors.
>
> Went to the hardware store for another "tin" of 3-in-1, and it's now
> in a PLASTIC bottle! ( same shape, just really cheesy plastic).
>
> Bought it anyway, 'cause I need the oil.
>
> I'm going to re-inject it back into the metal tin because I'm
> old-school & I like the old metal can.
>
> I'm going to write (WD-40 products, is it now?) and complain about the
> cheesiness of the new plastic cheap-*ss looking bottle.
>
> Meanwhile,.. is plain old 20 weight non-detergent motor oil the same
> thing as the old 3-in-1 ?...and OK to use in electric pump motors?
>
> Thanks for reading my rant! ;)
>
>
> Cheers!
> Bart
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I think I'll keep her.
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> So I've had this "tin" of 3-in-1 oil around for years - for the yearly
> 4-drop oiling of the radiant heating pump motors.
>
> Went to the hardware store for another "tin" of 3-in-1, and it's now
> in a PLASTIC bottle! ( same shape, just really cheesy plastic).
>
> Bought it anyway, 'cause I need the oil.
>
> I'm going to re-inject it back into the metal tin because I'm
>
> I'm going to write (WD-40 products, is it now?) and complain about the
> cheesiness of the new plastic cheap-*ss looking bottle.
>
> Meanwhile,.. is plain old 20 weight non-detergent motor oil the same
> thing as the old 3-in-1 ?...and OK to use in electric pump motors?
>
> Thanks for reading my rant! ;)
>
>
> Cheers!
> Bart
The blue label is the motor oil:
<http://www.3inone.com/products/motor-oil/>
MikeB
Christopher Tidy
> The blue label is the motor oil:
> <http://www.3inone.com/products/motor-oil/>
Indeed. I remember reading the results of some tests which had been done
to determine the viscosity of ordinary 3-in-1 oil (done by a fishing
reel enthusiast, I think). Ordinary 3-in-1 was closer to ISO 10 than ISO 20.
Chris
cl...@snyder.on.ca
How does ISO compare to SAE???
co_f...@yahoo.com
I got a bunch of oil cans from Dad's estate. Almost all have lost
their click-click ability. Anyway to restore that so they will pump
oil?
Paul
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Saybolt, which is closer to SAE 10 than to SAE 20. SAE viscosity is the same as ISO. All ISO standards are adopted from existing
other national or industrial standards.
Steve
<cl...@snyder.on.ca> wrote in message news:r9ren5thchcq1bjtf...@4ax.com...
Ned Simmons
<steve...@lusardi.de> wrote:
>SAE viscosity is the same as ISO.
ISO and SAE viscosity numbers are not the same.
http://tinyurl.com/yojp9a
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cavelamb
Yeah.
I hear that.
Stormin Mormon
SAE is used for measuring oil. That said, I would
guess three in one is closer to 10 weight. Three
in one tends to dry out. And get sticky. Same deal
with sewing machine oil.
For electric motors, I've heard to use ND20 or
ND30. A product called "zoom spout turbine oil" is
also excellent, and comes with a nice dispenser
bottle.
My old three in one oil can, I was able to pry out
the dropper, and fill it with a larger can. WD-40
used to be sold in metal galon cans (gone plastic)
and metal trigger spray bottles (which are now
plastic). Can't get good quality, any more.
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<cl...@snyder.on.ca> wrote in message
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On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 02:08:01 +0000, Christopher
Tidy
>> <http://www.3inone.com/products/motor-oil/>
Richard J Kinch
> Meanwhile,.. is plain old 20 weight non-detergent motor oil the same
> thing as the old 3-in-1 ?
Both WD-40 and 3-in-1 are perfumed, to impress you that you've done some
manly effort, distinguish the brand in your memory, and hide the fact that
you're paying a lot of money for a thimble of mineral oil. In 3-in-1 it
seems to my sense like the magic perfume is nothing but camphor. Not sure
what they prefume WD-40 with, but it kind of smells like coconut. I
suspect WD-40 is highly refined to lower sulfur content, which also makes
it smell sweeter than most petroleum distillates.
Ned Simmons
<cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote:
>ISO is used for measuring film, as also ASA.
>
>SAE is used for measuring oil.
And the SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers), like ISO, promulgates
all sorts of specs.
There *is* an ISO system for specifying oil viscosity, and it's widely
used in the US, but not generally for engine oil. I posted a
conversion chart to SAE viscosity earlier. Here it is again.
Ned Simmons
I'm partial to minty-fresh Mystery Oil. <g>
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Wes
>I'm partial to minty-fresh Mystery Oil. <g>
I was on a board that claimed a MMO soak would decarbon my piston rings and lower oil
consumption. The deal was you pulled the plugs, poured in MMO though the hole, and then
changed the oil the next day morning. During the night the MMO was supposed to be
loosening up the carbon and the oil change was to deal with the MMO eventually ending up
in the crankcase.
So I go to AutoZone, ask for some MMO, I get a blank stare followed by we have had the
request before and no one knows what it is.
I eventually figured out that MMO is Marvel Mystery Oil. Btw, it didn't do much for oil
consumption but I gave it a whirl.
Wes
cl...@snyder.on.ca
IF ypour oil consumption or low compression is caused by stuck rings,
MMO added to the crankcase oil can very often solve the problem - over
a period of time. Put the compression back to 100% even on a Subaru
engine on a friend's plane (that had sat for 2 years) in about 20
minutes of ground running.
Martin H. Eastburn
on the center of the bottom and dunk it in water.
Just a guess and what you need to search out is spring metal tempering.
Good luck
Martin
Martin H. Eastburn
contains stuff to float metal to be filtered out - not back to
the oil pump to hammer it to death.
Chemically they are different. Weight grade is different.
Use SAE on the car / tractor and such-
ISO on mills and lathes and shop stuff.
Martin
Ned Simmons
<lion...@consolidated.net> wrote:
>ISO is industrial standards oil while SAE is automotive and
>contains stuff to float metal to be filtered out - not back to
>the oil pump to hammer it to death.
>
>Chemically they are different. Weight grade is different.
>
>Use SAE on the car / tractor and such-
>ISO on mills and lathes and shop stuff.
It's true that automotive oils tend to use SAE viscosity grading, and
industrial oils are more likely to carry ISO numbers. But the ISO and
SAE viscosity grades are simply that: measures of viscosity. They do
not specify the composition of the oil or its suitability for a
particular use.
>
>
>Martin
>
>Ned Simmons wrote:
>> On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:52:08 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
>> <cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ISO is used for measuring film, as also ASA.
>>>
>>> SAE is used for measuring oil.
>>
>> And the SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers), like ISO, promulgates
>> all sorts of specs.
>>
>> There *is* an ISO system for specifying oil viscosity, and it's widely
>> used in the US, but not generally for engine oil. I posted a
>> conversion chart to SAE viscosity earlier. Here it is again.
>> http://tinyurl.com/yojp9a
>>
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Robert Swinney
looked numerous times in the the stores for more of it. Apparently it is not sold anymore. I think
it is 20 W.
Bob Swinney
"cavelamb" <cave...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> I have a metal can of 3- in- 1 that says it is for electric motors. I've had it for years and have
> looked numerous times in the the stores for more of it. Apparently it is not sold anymore. I think
> it is 20 W.
>
reach through the blades to hit the oil cup on the other side. 3-in-1
is usually sold in the mouse milk aisle in the hardware store, the
turbine oil is in with the swamp cooler parts and pumps. Had to go
over to the heating supply joint this morning for a furnace ignitor,
they had the turbine oil right out front. So if it's good enough for
the pros, I'll keep using it.
Nothing comes in a metal can anymore that can be packaged in plastic.
Have seen several oil cans with the bottoms rusted out from sitting in
the grandparents' garage too long, made a hell of mess on the window
sill. The 3-in-1 stuff now comes packaged in a plastic container
resembling an old long-spout metal oil can. Still not as convenient
as the Zoom-Spout and more expensive for less product.
Alongside the turbine oil, they had a Rust-Buster product in the same
style container. Might have to try that, sometimes I only need a
couple of drops and a full blast from a pressure can will do more harm
than good.
Stan
pieli...@gmail.com
Gunner Asch
and see what Ive got..I cant remember whats in that overflowing milk
carton
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ago. Bought one of each for general use oil.
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