So why isn't our "hardworking patriotic conservative" Gunner whining about this?
Too_Many_Tools
including welfare.
TMT
latimes.com
California to withhold a bigger chunk of paychecks
The amount goes up 10% on Sunday as Sacramento borrows from taxpayers.
Technically, it's not an income tax increase: You'll get the money
back eventually.
By Shane Goldmacher and W.J. Hennigan
October 31, 2009
Reporting from Los Angeles and Sacramento
Starting Sunday, cash-strapped California will dig deeper into the
pocketbooks of wage earners -- holding back 10% more than it already
does in state income taxes just as the biggest shopping season of the
year kicks into gear.
Technically, it's not a tax increase, even though it may feel like one
when your next paycheck arrives. As part of a bundle of budget patches
adopted in the summer, the state is taking more money now in
withholding, even though workers' annual tax bills won't change.
Think of it as a forced, interest-free loan: You'll be repaid any
extra withholding in April. Those who would receive a refund anyway
will receive a larger one, and those who owe taxes will owe less.
But with rising gas costs, depressed home prices and double-digit
unemployment, the state's added reach into residents' regular paycheck
isn't sitting well with many.
"The state's suddenly slapping people upside the head," said Mack
Reed, 50, of Silver Lake. "It's appalling how brash that is."
Brittney McKaig, 23, of Santa Ana said she expects the additional
withholding to affect her holiday spending.
"Coming into the holidays, we're getting squeezed anyway," she said.
"We're not getting Christmas bonuses and other perks we used to get.
So it all falls back on spending. The $40 gift will become a $20
gift."
The extra withholding may seem like a small amount siphoned from each
paycheck, but it adds up to a $1.7-billion fix for California's
deficit-riddled books.
From a single taxpayer earning $51,000 a year with no dependents, the
state will be grabbing an extra $17.59 each month, according to state
tax officials. A married person earning $90,000 with two dependents
would receive $24.87 less in monthly pay.
California will probably continue to collect the tax at a higher rate
for many years -- or find an additional $1.7 billion to slice from a
future budget, an unlikely occurrence. All workers who have state
taxes withheld will see their paychecks shrink.
"Many families are sitting at their kitchen table wondering how
they're going to make ends meet," said state Sen. Tony Strickland (R-
Thousand Oaks). "At the same time, the state of California is taking a
no-interest loan."
The provision is one of numerous maneuvers state lawmakers and Gov.
Arnold Schwarzenegger approved in the summer to paper over the state's
deficit. Many of the changes, including the extra withholding, were
little noticed outside of Sacramento.
Savvy taxpayers can get around the state's maneuver by increasing the
number of personal withholding allowances they claim on their employer
tax forms, said Brenda Voet, a spokeswoman for the state's Franchise
Tax Board.
"People can get out of this," she said, noting that most people would
have to change their allowances through their employers. California's
budget leaders are banking on the hope that most won't.
The increase is coming at a bad time for store owners, many of whom
depend on the holiday shopping season to keep their businesses alive.
"I don't think there's any question it's going to impact consumers'
spending," said Bill Dombrowski, president of the California Retailers
Assn. "Any time you reduce people's disposable income, there's going
to be a negative effect on the retail sector."
But Stephen Levy, director of the Center for Continuing Study of the
California Economy, wasn't so sure.
"It's having a relatively small impact on people's income," Levy said,
pointing out that many families will receive only $12 to $40 less each
month.
Yet Erika Wendt, 28, of San Diego said she already lived on a tight
budget: She rides her bike to work, for instance, to save on gasoline
and parking costs.
"I am frustrated as this directly impacts my weekly budget -- what
groceries I buy, how much I drive and can spend on gas," she said.
"Now money will just be tighter, and I'm not sure where else I can cut
back."
The extra withholding comes in addition to tax hikes the state enacted
this year.
In February, state income tax rates were bumped up 0.25 of a
percentage point for every tax bracket. The dependent credit was
slashed by two-thirds. The state sales tax rate rose 1 percentage
point. The vehicle license fee nearly doubled to 1.15% of a car's
value.
Lawmakers and the governor also approved deep cuts to schools, social
services and prisons to fend off one of the steepest revenue losses in
California history.
Temporary budget bandages, such as the increase in withholding, were
included at several points this year to avoid higher taxes and deeper
cuts, said H.D. Palmer, a spokesman for the state Department of
Finance.
Sacramento, meanwhile, is awash in red ink again. The state controller
recently said revenue in the budget year already had fallen more than
$1 billion short of assumptions. Outsize deficits are projected for
years to come.
Such temporary measures as the withholding tax increase don't really
fix the budget gap, "they just more or less hid it," said Christopher
Thornberg, a principal with Beacon Economics in Los Angeles. "I call
it a fraud."
shane.goldmacher@ latimes.com
william.hennigan@ latimes.com
Copyright © 2009, The Los Angeles Times
HH&C
> Because he doesn't pay taxes but continues to use public services
> including welfare.
>
> TMT
>
> latimes.com
...and forces workers to take money under the table.
Buerste
"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:be556282-f970-4323...@m20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
Because he doesn't pay taxes but continues to use public services
including welfare.
TMT
latimes.com
California to withhold a bigger chunk of paychecks
The amount goes up 10% on Sunday as Sacramento borrows from taxpayers.
Technically, it's not an income tax increase: You'll get the money
back eventually.
<snip>
Isn't CA one of those "Blue" states? Shows nobody can trust libtards to
live within their means then they steal money so they can spend even more.
Don't blame Arnold, he's cleaning up the mess from the last libtard.
Too_Many_Tools
Is that what they teach you in winger school?
No one "forces" you to be dishonest.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Oh yes...Tom...our "BIG" businessman.
One would think that you would be current on this...and you would be
if you had any kind of business to run.
So you approve of Gunner's parasitical actions?
TMT
Buerste
Oh yes...Tom...our "BIG" businessman.
*******************************************
T'ypical libtard, can't stay on topic and attack the messenger. Everything
you shitheads touch, you screw up. OBTW, I'm not Tom!
Hawke
As you know, right wingers are born dishonest, so nature forces that on
them just like it does for homosexuals. They don't choose to be
dishonest, it's just in their nature, so they have it in them when they
are born. In that way they are forced to be dishonest just like a male
dog is forced to lift its leg to pee.
Hawke
Gunner Asch
And Im not on welfare.
Gunner
"IMHO, some people here give Jeff far more attention than he deserves,
but obviously craves. The most appropriate response, and perhaps the
cruelest, IMO, is to simply killfile and ignore him. An alternative, if
you must, would be to post the same standard reply to his every post,
listing the manifold reasons why he ought to be ignored. Just my $0.02
worth."
wmbjk...@citlink.net
wrote:
>On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:33:20 -0500, "Buerste" <bue...@att.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:e0106fc3-17db-4915...@p23g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
>>On Nov 8, 9:32 pm, "Buerste" <buer...@wowway.com> wrote:
>>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>>Oh yes...Tom...our "BIG" businessman.
>>
>>One would think that you would be current on this...and you would be
>>if you had any kind of business to run.
>>
>>So you approve of Gunner's parasitical actions?
>>TMT
>>*******************************************
>>
>>T'ypical libtard, can't stay on topic and attack the messenger. Everything
>>you shitheads touch, you screw up. OBTW, I'm not Tom!
I too thought he was claiming to be tom gardner, the ohio brush guy
with the ancient dark and dumpy-looking shop, who brags on his wealth
and insists he can make money by hiring proven deadbeats. I was sure
that I remembered him explaining how buerste translates to brush. If
that's not him, then who's he pretending to be now?
>If you answered his question, you must have erased it before hitting
>the send button. Is that one of your original ideas?
In light of the crap posted by Tom er, buerste or whoever he thinks he
is now, TMT's question is perfectly fair. But Tom's too chickenshit to
answer it because the truth doesn't fit with his fantasy. I guess he
thinks that so long as he keeps pretending that the great gummer/king
of the BS artists is a genuine conservative, that somehow everyone
else will believe that instead of the undeniable.
Wayne
John R. Carroll
It's called "Uncle Sugar" and obviosly grinds gomer's gears.
--
John R. Carroll
Dan
> kept him alive. How does he expect anyone to take his claims of being
> a survivalist seriously when he can only survive now by taking
> government handouts and screwing his creditors?
Well, those ARE proven survival skills...
Dan
HH&C
You've never heard of civil disobedience? You lefties don't have a
lock on it.
Too_Many_Tools
>
> - Show quoted text -
Another winger who would stab you for a dollar.
TMT
Alim Nassor
>
> - Show quoted text -
If it's my dollar, damn right. What right do you have to it moocher?
Buerste
"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
news:0pchf5hnp1dpcv3ps...@4ax.com...
Isn't it amazing how the skilless, jobless, hopeless libtards get all
wee-weed up? Are their cheese-checks running late this month?
Brian, one of my engineers retired last month and I hired John. He's GOOD!
He dove into equipment he'd never seen before on the first day and it's
apparent...he has the KNACK and he plays well with the other children. He
comes from a machine building background, PLCs and machining. He led a team
of five at his last job and is the very first employee I stole from another
company. Actually second, if you count Roger. But Roger was a consultant
for me for a long time first.
You can still call me Tom, but the libtards need call me "Mister Tom"!
...and I STILL won't hire any of them, no mater how they beg for a
job...they'd immediately hurt themselves an go on "Libtard Compensation
Retirement". Besides, they have no marketable skills! When was the last
time any of them posted anything about metalworking? -NEVER- (when's that
culling thing again?)
Gunner Asch
And in less than 3 yrs..they will be dead.
Shrug
Buerste
"Deucalion" <som...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:tivhf5pvvj4vjhpqm...@4ax.com...
>
>>
>>Brian, one of my engineers retired last month and I hired John. He's
>>GOOD!
>>He dove into equipment he'd never seen before on the first day and it's
>>apparent...he has the KNACK and he plays well with the other children. He
>>comes from a machine building background, PLCs and machining. He led a
>>team
>>of five at his last job and is the very first employee I stole from
>>another
>>company. Actually second, if you count Roger. But Roger was a consultant
>>for me for a long time first.
>>
>>You can still call me Tom, but the libtards need call me "Mister Tom"!
>>...and I STILL won't hire any of them, no mater how they beg for a
>>job...they'd immediately hurt themselves an go on "Libtard Compensation
>>Retirement". Besides, they have no marketable skills! When was the last
>>time any of them posted anything about metalworking? -NEVER- (when's that
>>culling thing again?)
>>
>
> was the last time you posted anything about survivalism Uncle Tom.
Mister Tom, to you. Show some respect for your superiors.
Gunner Asch
Soon Tom...very soon. Pick the ones closest to you and learn their
habits, haunts and places they go. When the time is right...well...
Say...you by an chance have any meat hooks in one of the old sections of
your factory that might be burned down by "accident" without harming
anything important?
If you do...you might be able to rent them out for a week or so to some
people who need to punish some people..terminally. Of course...it might
get a bit..messy and with bodies and body parts piled up after a week or
two..only a few hundred or so..shrug...it might be more sanitary to
simply burn it..then filling a few hundred trash bags and schelpping
them to various dumpsters around the city in the dark of night.
Just wondering. Not for me of course. Shrug
Buerste
"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
I do have an unused, empty 2,000 gal propane tank on the property for a
rendering vessel..
I did decide to cast lead and bought a 148gr DEWC mold in .358" Now, what
molds should I get for 9mm and .45 if I could only get one each? I'm
thinking 147gr SWC and 200gr SWC. Strictly paper.
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>
>I do have an unused, empty 2,000 gal propane tank on the property for a
>rendering vessel..
>
>I did decide to cast lead and bought a 148gr DEWC mold in .358" Now, what
>molds should I get for 9mm and .45 if I could only get one each? I'm
>thinking 147gr SWC and 200gr SWC. Strictly paper.
>
Best 9mm Ive ever cast.
http://www.lymanproducts.com/lyman/bullet-casting/mould-details.php?entryID=4
One of the Best 45 ACP Ive ever cast
http://www.gunaccessories.com/RCBS/PistolBulletMoulds.asp
45-201-SWC
RCB82047
Now..they are pricy..if you can find em used..best.
If too much..
http://www.leeprecision.com/cgi/catalog/browse.cgi?1257845280.3711=/html/catalog/bullmol2.html
9mm....#90239 120gr pointed, single grease groove.
A decent mould that casts a very accurate bullet.
Same with the 45 version
452-200-SWC, #90438
second choice....
452-230-TC #90290
Both excellent bullets
Each are $25 including handles and both are double cavity.
Both will shoot clean if lubed properly and sized to the proper
diameter.
Neither are great for self defense..though either 45 bullet kills
critters all the way up to coyote cleanly and quickly. I cant speak for
their results on humans. Fortunately.
Hope that helped
Btw..my favorite load for 45 ACP is 7.2 grs Unique and its the same load
for a 150gr Keith style in .357 Magnum. And with the above 200gr
bullets. I have a single measure that dumps 7.2grs Unique all day long
and its used for both 45 ACP and .357
Cast em straight from wheelweights, dump em into a water filled bucket.
Size em a couple days later. Heat treats em to about Brinell 30 or so.
Hard enough to max load em if you want. They will go softer in about 5
yrs..down to about Brinell 20.
Here is a link to heat treating bullets..something fairly important with
9mm and "hi velocity" loads.
http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting/alloyhardness/pdf/alloyhardness.pdf
So all you need is a mould, a lubrisizer, something to melt the lead in
(the Lyman 20lb pot is best..the Lee 20lb pot is pretty damned
good..both are bottom pours)..I own a number of each. And a few sticks
of any decent bullet lube. Im NOT a big fan of the sprinkle/liquid
lubes..shrug..but then...Im an old timer. And Ive cast/shot probably a
half million cast bullets in the past 40 yrs. Or more. Shrug
Hope that helps
Ill check my moulds and see if Ive got anything extra that will do you
some good. Ive got a few....<G>
Gunner, looking for a good 41 Mag mould, about 220 gr..Keith type.
Andrew VK3BFA
Stuff the politics - just curious - did you ever get that Honda XL350
going? - was it the cam bearings/journals? - if so, it would be an
interesting machining job to fix them.
Andrew VK3BFA.
Gunner Asch
Not yet. But its on one of the back burners waiting its turn. I had
two weeks without any work, so I spent my time cleaning up machinery,
the back 40, getting my shop machines cleaned up and so forth. Then I
took in another load of machinery..sigh..then I had work last week and
was gone for 5 days.
But..its on the Do List. Maybe next month. Ive still got stuff to do to
the BMW scooter, and then the Honda..and then all spring to get the 1961
Indian up and running. I finally started it..sounded pretty good, for
not having been run since 1971...but it needs a lot of clean up, the
aluminum is pretty oxidized..any idea of how to clean up a bike engine's
metal work nice and shiney?
So many things to do..so little money..sigh
Gunner
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<VK3...@wia.org.au> wrote:
Oh..yes to answer your question..the cam bearing/journals are toast.
Aluminum and part of the engine. So Im going to have to machine the
head and cover to accept new split bronze bearings then install them so
they dont spin and pass oil through the ports properly.
Ive got an idea of how to do it..and a nice big angle plate to put on
the Gorton with the head bolted to it...but..it will be a couple months
before I get to it.
Too_Many_Tools
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:45:42 -0500, "Buerste" <buer...@att.net> wrote:
>
> >"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
> >news:0pchf5hnp1dpcv3ps...@4ax.com...
>
> - Show quoted text -
It will be interesting to hear the prosecutor read Gunner's postings
at his trial.
The problem will be which ones...there are so many that will
incriminate him.
Question : What is the difference between the Fort Hood Shooter and
Gunner?
Answer : Not much other than the Fort Hood shooter had a job.
TMT
wmbjk...@citlink.net
That would be a serious point if any of these self-described
survivalists would admit that every welfare queen is a legitimate
survivalist. Instead they spend a lot of time co-opting the
religious-crackpot M.O., loudly insisting that anyone who doesn't have
a lot of guns and a little ramen is going to hell. :-) Gummer took it
to the extreme, claiming that his "free and clear" home and
"alternative income streams" put him in a great position for
TEOTWAWKI. Ever since that BS was exposed, he's been trying on a new
shtick - that everyone he doesn't like or who's made fun of him only
has about 2 years to live, because the homeless are going to rise up
and smite them! Of course, as we get closer to the date, he'll have to
come up with another fantasy. How long before he claims that Usenet
posting entitles him to be raptured into a passing comet or some such?
Wayne
wmbjk...@citlink.net
>You can still call me Tom
Tom, don't tell me you were lying when you wrote "OBTW, I'm not Tom".
I'm shocked I tell you, shocked! Let me guess, everything else you say
is true? Watch out gummer, tom's gunning for your title of biggest
Usenet windbag/phony!
Wayne
Curly Surmudgeon
> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:23:33 -0800, Dan <dnad...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Deucalion wrote:
>>> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:18:33 -0800, "John R. Carroll"
>>> <nu...@bidness.dev.nul> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Deucalion wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:26:24 -0800, Gunner Asch
>>>>> <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:33:20 -0500, "Buerste" <bue...@att.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>
>>>>
news:e0106fc3-17db-4915...@p23g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> On Nov 8, 9:32 pm, "Buerste" <buer...@wowway.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> news:be556282-f970-4323-
b459-278...@m20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
Don't strain your brain trying to anticipate actions of a psychotic.
Just sit back and enjoy the show...
--
Regards, Curly
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2012 Run, Sarah, Run! 2012
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Steve W.
>
> Not yet. But its on one of the back burners waiting its turn. I had
> two weeks without any work, so I spent my time cleaning up machinery,
> the back 40, getting my shop machines cleaned up and so forth. Then I
> took in another load of machinery..sigh..then I had work last week and
> was gone for 5 days.
>
> But..its on the Do List. Maybe next month. Ive still got stuff to do to
> the BMW scooter, and then the Honda..and then all spring to get the 1961
> Indian up and running. I finally started it..sounded pretty good, for
> not having been run since 1971...but it needs a lot of clean up, the
> aluminum is pretty oxidized..any idea of how to clean up a bike engine's
> metal work nice and shiney?
>
> So many things to do..so little money..sigh
>
> Gunner
>
As much as I hate to do it about the best way to clean up that aluminum
is to use standard polishing methods. I usually remove any parts that I
can if the engine is staying in the frame. Then spray with some GOOD
paint stripper to remove any of the old clear coat from the parts. Then
sand the rough spots with W/D paper and then start buffing.
Once you get the finish you want you can degrease the part real well and
spray it with a good clear. OR you can plan on doing the polishing
monthly!!!!
I did my XS1100 and parts of the Venture as well. Not a lot of fun but
the end result is worth it.
On the bearing situation, there are a few ways. The easiest way is to
bore the heads for the bearing halves, then drill a couple retainer
holes and install a couple brass pins to hold the bearings in place.
Used to be a very common way of retaining bearings in large engines.
Another way is to grab some Loctite bearing and bushing retainer and use
it...
Or since you will be cutting the parts to fit anyway you could simply
make them different sizes and use the step on the edge to retain them
and keep them in place. Just cut one bushing thicker than the other so
one side has a lip.
--
Steve W.
Curly Surmudgeon
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:08:24 -0800, Gunner Asch
> <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:51:15 -0800 (PST), Andrew VK3BFA
>><VK3...@wia.org.au> wrote:
>>
>>>On Nov 10, 9:28 pm, Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>Stuff the politics - just curious - did you ever get that Honda XL350
>>>going? - was it the cam bearings/journals? - if so, it would be an
>>>interesting machining job to fix them. Andrew VK3BFA.
>>
>>
>>Not yet. But its on one of the back burners waiting its turn. I had
>>two weeks without any work, so I spent my time cleaning up machinery,
>>the back 40,
"the back 40"???
Is that the Colt .40 in the back of his fridge? His posted address is a
squalid little shack amongst oakies. Or is this a return to his claim of
having a vast ranch?
> getting my shop machines cleaned up and so forth. Then I
>>took in another load of machinery..sigh..then I had work last week and
>>was gone for 5 days.
>>
>>But..its on the Do List. Maybe next month. Ive still got stuff to do to
>>the BMW scooter, and then the Honda..and then all spring to get the 1961
>>Indian up and running. I finally started it..sounded pretty good, for
>>not having been run since 1971...but it needs a lot of clean up, the
>>aluminum is pretty oxidized..any idea of how to clean up a bike engine's
>>metal work nice and shiney?
>>
>>So many things to do..so little money..sigh
>
> Perhaps you could find a parts distributor who will take food stamps?
>
> Get a job. Go to work.
wmbjk...@citlink.net
<CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:12:43 -0500, Deucalion <som...@nowhere.net> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:08:24 -0800, Gunner Asch
>> <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:51:15 -0800 (PST), Andrew VK3BFA
>>><VK3...@wia.org.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Nov 10, 9:28 pm, Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Stuff the politics - just curious - did you ever get that Honda XL350
>>>>going? - was it the cam bearings/journals? - if so, it would be an
>>>>interesting machining job to fix them. Andrew VK3BFA.
>>>
>>>
>>>Not yet. But its on one of the back burners waiting its turn. I had
>>>two weeks without any work, so I spent my time cleaning up machinery,
>>>the back 40,
>
>"the back 40"???
He once claimed that it was 3 acres or some such. But if you scale his
lot on Google maps, it's looks like about 75' X125', which is about
1/4 acre. So the "back 40" would be the back 40'. :-)
>Is that the Colt .40 in the back of his fridge? His posted address is a
>squalid little shack amongst oakies. Or is this a return to his claim of
>having a vast ranch?
By now he must realize that every sensible reader knows that he lives
in a dumpy subdivision with empty lots where, by his own account crack
homes used to stand before they burned down. Yet he keeps trying to
create a different impression through spin and outright lies. It's
bizarre, although I can see why he does it - because there are
actually a few readers who believe him!
>> getting my shop machines cleaned up and so forth. Then I
>>>took in another load of machinery..sigh..then I had work last week and
>>>was gone for 5 days.
>>>
>>>But..its on the Do List. Maybe next month. Ive still got stuff to do to
>>>the BMW scooter, and then the Honda..and then all spring to get the 1961
>>>Indian up and running. I finally started it..sounded pretty good, for
>>>not having been run since 1971...but it needs a lot of clean up, the
>>>aluminum is pretty oxidized..any idea of how to clean up a bike engine's
>>>metal work nice and shiney?
>>>
>>>So many things to do..so little money..sigh
>>
>> Perhaps you could find a parts distributor who will take food stamps?
>>
>> Get a job. Go to work.
Not a chance. If he had a paycheck and a bank account, his creditors
could lay claim to both. He's stuck working mostly under the table,
and whiling away his time trying to blame everyone else for his
misery. Apparently, despite mining his farm/homestead/ranch <snorf> to
defend against the "dems", the lettuce-pickers and Obama were still
somehow able to sneak in and do a lot of damage. :-)
Wayne
wmbjk...@citlink.net
wrote:
>Being a liar is one of the main attributes he has to acquire if he
>wants to be like gunner. I think that they have much more than that
>in common though.
Yup. Do a Bing search for "tom gardner ohio brush" for pictures of
tom's shop, and compare to gummy's. Apparently it's only taken Obama a
few months to give both places that er, lived-in look. :-)
Wayne
HH&C
> On Nov 9, 10:02 pm, "HH&C" <hot-ham-and-che...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 9, 10:38 am, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 8, 7:49 pm, "HH&C" <hot-ham-and-che...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Nov 8, 8:13 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > including welfare.
>
> > > > > TMT
>
> > > > > latimes.com
>
> > > > ...and forces workers to take money under the table.
>
> > > Is that what they teach you in winger school?
>
> > > No one "forces" you to be dishonest.
>
> > > TMT
>
> > You've never heard of civil disobedience? You lefties don't have a
> > lock on it.
>
>
> TMT
Tool, why are you trying to take my dollar? Don't you have one of
your own?
Tell you what, next time you need a dollar I'll think of some work you
can do to earn it. That way you won't feel like a beggar or a thief.
Larry Jaques
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> scrawled the following:
>But..its on the Do List. Maybe next month. Ive still got stuff to do to
>the BMW scooter, and then the Honda..and then all spring to get the 1961
>Indian up and running. I finally started it..sounded pretty good, for
>not having been run since 1971...but it needs a lot of clean up, the
>aluminum is pretty oxidized..any idea of how to clean up a bike engine's
>metal work nice and shiney?
Before and after GIFS, please. SimiChrome or MAAS. I picked up some
MAAS Metal Polish off eBay the day before I found it at Wally World
for half the price. It was $3.88 for 4 ounces and it nice stuff.
>So many things to do..so little money..sigh
Yeah, I went into hock on the computer after not working for two
months with the broken finger and sprained wrist. I had one client
who I raked for (hence the wrist, grrr!) which I didn't stop, so I had
some money coming in. I've been doing some web design work lately,
too, so that timing was fantastic. Now I'm waiting for sunshine so I
can finish a deck and get the rest of the money.
----------------------------------------------------
Thesaurus: Ancient reptile with excellent vocabulary
====================================================
Buerste
"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
I bought a Lee 20# and the assorted cootermints. Also got a Lee "Loadmaster"
with .38 dies...too good of a deal to pass up even though I want a Dillon
650. I got a bullet feeder too. I haven't set it up yet but as with all
Lee stuff, I assume having a machine shop will come in handy. I like the
Alox lube, it works great. I know about heat treating but I didn't know the
oven method works better. I wonder why.
I want my 9 to cycle with light loads so I was thinking a bit heavier bullet
than your 120gr. What does the #82047 weigh? I see they are both SWC and
would put a nice hole in paper. (probably work on libtards too)
Have you looked at the price of cast bullets lately? And, many are out of
stock. Why not cast in your spare time and sell them? Some people think
bullets are made out of gold for what they charge!
Hawke
>>> No one "forces" you to be dishonest.
>>>
>>> TMT
>> You've never heard of civil disobedience? You lefties don't have a
>> lock on it.
>
>
>
> Shrug
>
>
> Gunner
It's more likely that you'll be dead in less than three years.
Hawke
HH&C
Then will you quit your bitching and do something constructive, like
get a job and get your own health care?
Too_Many_Tools
> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:33:20 -0500, "Buerste" <buer...@att.net> wrote:
>
> >"Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:e0106fc3-17db-4915...@p23g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
> >On Nov 8, 9:32 pm, "Buerste" <buer...@wowway.com> wrote:
> >> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >> Because he doesn't pay taxes but continues to use public services
> >> including welfare.
>
> >> TMT
>
> >> latimes.com
> >> The amount goes up 10% on Sunday as Sacramento borrows from taxpayers.
> >> Technically, it's not an income tax increase: You'll get the money
> >> back eventually.
> >> <snip>
>
> >> Isn't CA one of those "Blue" states? Shows nobody can trust libtards to
> >> live within their means then they steal money so they can spend even more.
> >> Don't blame Arnold, he's cleaning up the mess from the last libtard.
>
> >Oh yes...Tom...our "BIG" businessman.
>
> >One would think that you would be current on this...and you would be
> >if you had any kind of business to run.
>
> >So you approve of Gunner's parasitical actions?
> >TMT
> >*******************************************
>
> >T'ypical libtard, can't stay on topic and attack the messenger. Everything
> >you shitheads touch, you screw up. OBTW, I'm not Tom!
>
> And Im not on welfare.
>
>
> "IMHO, some people here give Jeff far more attention than he deserves,
> but obviously craves. The most appropriate response, and perhaps the
> cruelest, IMO, is to simply killfile and ignore him. An alternative, if
> you must, would be to post the same standard reply to his every post,
> listing the manifold reasons why he ought to be ignored. Just my $0.02
>
> - Show quoted text -
Yes you are.
Why are you posting here?
Shouldn't you be on the job boards looking for work?
A "hardworking patriotic American" would be.
TMT
Hawke
>> So many things to do..so little money..sigh
>
> Perhaps you could find a parts distributor who will take food stamps?
>
> Get a job. Go to work.
Gunner's not serious. There is a new reality show on called Broke and
Famous. It's got the washed up teen star Willie Ames on it. He's flat
broke, house in foreclosure. He has a guy that is helping him get his
life in order. He made Ames have a yard sale and sell everything he had.
He made over 5 grand. If Gunner was serious he'd sell a lot of that crap
he's got stored up on his property, unless he's lying about all that
too. When you are desperate, and serious, you do whatever is necessary.
Gunner isn't there. He's not even facing up to the facts of where he's
got himself. He needs to get a reality show. He should launch a balloon
from his yard and say a little kid is in it. Then he can parlay the
publicity into a show. Now where did I hear of that strategy?
Hawke
Gunner Asch
wrote:
Shrug..I simply cast em into a 5 gallon bucket. Works just fine for me
when I need a harder bullet, such as rifles. Linotype being VERY hard
to find here in California..unfortunately.
>
>I want my 9 to cycle with light loads so I was thinking a bit heavier bullet
>than your 120gr. What does the #82047 weigh? I see they are both SWC and
>would put a nice hole in paper. (probably work on libtards too)
Heavy bullet light powder charge gives you a slow bullet and about as
much recoil as the light bullet going faster..shrug.
I cant find the 82047....what is it?
>
>Have you looked at the price of cast bullets lately? And, many are out of
>stock. Why not cast in your spare time and sell them? Some people think
>bullets are made out of gold for what they charge!
>
Because it takes a lot of lead and time to make up sale quantities of
bullets. Usually 500 at a time.
Now if I had an automated casting rig...which are rather expensive..Id
consider it.
Gunner
"Aren't cats Libertarian? They just want to be left alone.
I think our dog is a Democrat, as he is always looking for a handout"
Unknown Usnet Poster
Heh, heh, I'm pretty sure my dog is a liberal - he has no balls.
Keyton
Gunner Asch
Indeed.
Now Im planning on living until my 90s. Shrug...and there is only one
spot of concern for me..and that will be in just a little less than 3
yrs. Shrug..I might survive it..likely to..but..I might not.
But..the fact of the matter is that the Parakeet WILL be dead in that
same time period, unless he moves to Canada or Cuba or some place that
will actually take him.
Shrug...better a maybe, then for sure.
Curly Surmudgeon
> That is no surprise. Those two must have a lot in common for each to
> stick up for the other no matter how much evidence there is that one (or
> both) of them are lying. So, I guess that makes both of them pretty sad
> to watch.
>
> You see, to this day, gunner could simply recant and apologize for the
> remarks that he made about my family member as she lay in Intensive Care
> (three times in a month) paralyzed on her left side and blind in her
> left eye with permanent brain damage. I would pretty much leave him
> alone if he did. Well except for pointing out his lies and that would
> be a enough to keep most people busy.
>
> However, his damaged psyche won't allow him to do that and I will be
> here until the news of his the end of his sorry existence is posted by
> his bereaved friends. Such is his destiny and such is his karma.
>
> As it stands, she has regained her eyesight and use of the left side of
> her body with a lot of physical therapy and hard work. The permanent
> brain damage was indeed permanent, but she has succeeded in doing
> something that he can't. She has a job and a relatively happy life. He
> turned out to be a sullen and unemployed. All of these are a result of
> his decisions.
>
> It is as it is, but it was he who made it that way.
Oh, shit, that is so wrong. Abusing each other virtual face to virtual
face is bad enough but family is off limits. I'm sorry you were treated
that way by anyone here. Or anywhere. Family is precious.
That is not American Family Values.
Buerste
"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
How about a barn full of libtards in leg irons casting bullets 16 hours a
day? Feed 'em some kibble and water. When the croak, render them into lube
sticks...and kibble.
wmbjk...@citlink.net
wrote:
>That is no surprise. Those two must have a lot in common for each to
>stick up for the other no matter how much evidence there is that one
>(or both) of them are lying. So, I guess that makes both of them
>pretty sad to watch.
>
>You see, to this day, gunner could simply recant and apologize for the
>remarks that he made about my family member as she lay in Intensive
>Care (three times in a month) paralyzed on her left side and blind in
>her left eye with permanent brain damage. I would pretty much leave
>him alone if he did. Well except for pointing out his lies and that
>would be a enough to keep most people busy.
>
>However, his damaged psyche won't allow him to do that and I will be
>here until the news of his the end of his sorry existence is posted by
>his bereaved friends. Such is his destiny and such is his karma.
I doubt there will be much sympathy. A guy who used to post some truly
nasty stuff at rec.aviation.homebuilt died a while back, and the
response was decidedly muted. The little sympathy was balanced by the
fact that the guy bit it while seriously impaired by drugs and medical
issues that he was hiding. Still, I'd rank him a notch above gummy.
>As it stands, she has regained her eyesight and use of the left side
>of her body with a lot of physical therapy and hard work. The
>permanent brain damage was indeed permanent, but she has succeeded in
>doing something that he can't. She has a job and a relatively happy
>life.
Glad to hear it.
> He turned out to be a sullen and unemployed. All of these are
>a result of his decisions.
>
>It is as it is, but it was he who made it that way.
He couldn't be a better punching bag if he'd set out to make it his
life's work.
Wayne
Buerste
"Deucalion" <som...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:9ehkf51rplrso86g5...@4ax.com...
> stick up for the other no matter how much evidence there is that one
> (or both) of them are lying. So, I guess that makes both of them
> pretty sad to watch.
>
> You see, to this day, gunner could simply recant and apologize for the
> remarks that he made about my family member as she lay in Intensive
> Care (three times in a month) paralyzed on her left side and blind in
> her left eye with permanent brain damage. I would pretty much leave
> him alone if he did. Well except for pointing out his lies and that
> would be a enough to keep most people busy.
>
> However, his damaged psyche won't allow him to do that and I will be
> here until the news of his the end of his sorry existence is posted by
> his bereaved friends. Such is his destiny and such is his karma.
>
> of her body with a lot of physical therapy and hard work. The
> permanent brain damage was indeed permanent, but she has succeeded in
> doing something that he can't. She has a job and a relatively happy
> a result of his decisions.
>
> It is as it is, but it was he who made it that way.
Ya' think my 100+ year old building looks lived in? The roof doesn't leak,
everything is up to code, the equipment is new and it's all paid for. .It
sits on 2.5 acres. That's the "new" building, since 1942. We are 130 years
old. And, I didn't inherit anything, I too cared for invalids. The
property will be demolished as a new freeway extenuation is scheduled to be
built by 2015. The new building will be 30 miles West, where I live in farm
country. You're welcome to visit any time you like, many have.
Too_Many_Tools
>
> - Show quoted text -
Does that mean you would quit your conservative bitching and do
something constructive, like get a job and actually PAY for your own
health care?
It is apparent from your postings that you are just as much a parasite
(and hypocrite) as Gunner.
TMT
Buerste
1879...do the math.
HH&C
> On Nov 10, 10:18 pm, "HH&C" <hot-ham-and-che...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 10, 10:51 pm, Hawke <davesmith...@digitalpath.net> wrote:
>
> > > Gunner Asch wrote:
> > > >>> No one "forces" you to be dishonest.
>
> > > >>> TMT
> > > >> You've never heard of civil disobedience? You lefties don't have a
> > > >> lock on it.
>
> > > > And in less than 3 yrs..they will be dead.
>
> > > > Shrug
>
> > > > Gunner
>
> > > It's more likely that you'll be dead in less than three years.
>
> > > Hawke
>
> > Then will you quit your bitching and do something constructive, like
> > get a job and get your own health care?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Does that mean you would quit your conservative bitching and do
> something constructive, like get a job and actually PAY for your own
> health care?
I do have a job and I do pay for my primary health care insurance.
And soon I'll be paying for your health care, too, until I get tired
of carrying you on my back. Then I'll quit and still have my Tri-
Care.
Then Alberto Curmudgeon will have to flip a few more houses or burgers
to pay for your health care. Pretty neat, huh?
> It is apparent from your postings that you are just as much a parasite
> (and hypocrite) as Gunner.
>
> TMT
Why do you say that? I make my mortgage payment. It's the only loan
I have. No credit card debt either. I was thinking of taking a
vacation, and I just can't wait for the cherry blossoms in DC. Maybe
I'll go to Tennessee, rent a cabin and get a fishing permit.
Larry Jaques
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> scrawled the following:
>Shrug..I simply cast em into a 5 gallon bucket.
Wow, a 5-gallon bullet? What's it for, a 4-bore, or something even
bigger?
Sorry, I saw that line in your reply and the thought struck me.
Too_Many_Tools
>
> - Show quoted text -
The hypocrite goes without saying.
Reread some of your posts if you don't believe me.
Parasite....you are not paying the full cost of the health care you
are using and refuse to acknowledge that fact.
TMT
HH&C
Huh? My primary insurance is cost shared with my employer. It is
part of my compensation package. I get compensated for working.
If you had ever held a job you would know that.
I pre-paid Tri-Care with over 20 years of military service. You could
have served under the Don't Ask/Don't Tell policy and earned crappy
insurance, too.
Gunner Asch
wrote:
Nah...Libtards are simply too stupid and would be dumping the melting
pots on themselves with great regularlity. If you want teams casting
consistant bullets..snag a bunch of Latinos.
Gunner Asch
He cant. He is too stupid.
Too_Many_Tools
>
> - Show quoted text -
Like said...parasite.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:17:47 -0800 (PST), Too_Many_Tools
> just pay the full cost of the care they recieve. So why do you get
> your panties in a knot, demanding these same folks partake of
> Government Based Insurance?
>
> __
>
> The last official act of any government is the looting of the nation.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
If you have to ask the question, then you do not understand the basic
principles of insurance.
There is safety in numbers.
Why can the majority of advanced countries other than the United
States provide adequate medical care for their populations?
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:29:33 -0500, "Buerste" <buer...@wowway.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
> >news:d2jkf5pknphdguhcf...@4ax.com...
> >> wrote:
>
> >>>"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:n3cif5l2cmuvlp3cj...@4ax.com...
> >>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>I do have an unused, empty 2,000 gal propane tank on the property for a
> >>>>>rendering vessel..
>
> >>>>>I did decide to cast lead and bought a 148gr DEWC mold in .358" Now,
> >>>>>what
> >>>>>molds should I get for 9mm and .45 if I could only get one each? I'm
> >>>>>thinking 147gr SWC and 200gr SWC. Strictly paper.
>
> >>>> Best 9mm Ive ever cast.
>
>
> >>>> One of the Best 45 ACP Ive ever cast
>
> >>>>http://www.gunaccessories.com/RCBS/PistolBulletMoulds.asp
>
> >>>> 45-201-SWC
> >>>> RCB82047
>
> >>>> Now..they are pricy..if you can find em used..best.
>
> >>>> If too much..
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
How's the job search going Gunner?
Did any of your creditors get paid this week?
TMT
Beam Me Up Scotty
>
> Why can the majority of advanced countries other than the United
> States provide adequate medical care for their populations?
>
> TMT
Because the other countries are willing to settle for less.
Hawke
>> The last official act of any government is the looting of the nation.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> If you have to ask the question, then you do not understand the basic
> principles of insurance.
>
> There is safety in numbers.
>
> Why can the majority of advanced countries other than the United
> States provide adequate medical care for their populations?
>
> TMT
Because they are doing what the people want and not what the
corporations want?
Hawke
pyotr filipivich
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> reported Elvis on Fri, 13 Nov 2009
23:32:56 -0800 in misc.survivalism:
>>How about a barn full of libtards in leg irons casting bullets 16 hours a
>>day? Feed 'em some kibble and water. When the croak, render them into lube
>>sticks...and kibble.
>>
>Nah...Libtards are simply too stupid and would be dumping the melting
>pots on themselves with great regularlity.
You'd recon they'd figure out not to do that the second or third
time...
>If you want teams casting consistant bullets..snag a bunch of Latinos.
Ayiii - now you're going to have to pay them!
OTOH, you'll save a bunch over the liberals, because they won't be
wasting the occasional pour ... it'll probably work out better.
-
pyotr filipivich.
Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel,
you find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.
Too_Many_Tools
> On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:07:46 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
>
>
>
>
>
> <CurlySurmudg...@live.com> wrote:
> >On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:15:52 -0500, Observer <noone@nowhere> wrote:
> >>On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:05:31 -0800 (PST), "HH&C"
> >><hot-ham-and-che...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>George Soros and the DNC told him to say that. He gets a quarter for
> >>>every troll and spam.
>
> >> Do you have a citation for that claim? Weren't YOU complaining about
> >> all the snarkiness in this group? Weren't you going to set a good
> >> example?
>
> >The cockroach committed to supporting the president and broke that
> >promise too. Between the lies, misrepresentations and attacks there is
> >nothing worthwhile reading.
>
> >Which is why the cockroach now lives in my permanent Bozo Bin.
>
> I liken him to picking at a scab. You know you shouldn't do it, you
> know nothing good is apt to come from it, but it's hard to resist.
> Ultimately you have nothing to show for your efforts. Yet, there is
> some inexplicable satisfaction in the process.
>
> Pretty much the same with Tool and Gumby.
>
> __
>
> The last official act of any government is the looting of the nation.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
It just eats at you when I am right, doesn't it?
The last official act of any government is the looting of the
nation...Mission Accomplished.
- George "The Destroyer of Nations" (and collector of flight jackets)
Bush
TMT
Gunner Asch
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that Gunner Asch
><gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> reported Elvis on Fri, 13 Nov 2009
>23:32:56 -0800 in misc.survivalism:
>>>How about a barn full of libtards in leg irons casting bullets 16 hours a
>>>day? Feed 'em some kibble and water. When the croak, render them into lube
>>>sticks...and kibble.
>>>
>>Nah...Libtards are simply too stupid and would be dumping the melting
>>pots on themselves with great regularlity.
>
> You'd recon they'd figure out not to do that the second or third
>time...
With 20lbs of 650F molten lead in their laps the first time...shrug..all
you can do is drag the screaming mess out into the alley and down aways
and bash their skulls in. Even the most heartless will put down an
injured animal.
But on the other hand..you now have spare ammo to do it with if you dont
mind wasting a nickle on a Leftard.
>
>>If you want teams casting consistant bullets..snag a bunch of Latinos.
>
> Ayiii - now you're going to have to pay them!
>
> OTOH, you'll save a bunch over the liberals, because they won't be
>wasting the occasional pour ... it'll probably work out better.
Ayup..and on payday..you simply do as most Democrats do..and call INS.
Gunner
>-
>pyotr filipivich.
>Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel,
>you find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.
"Aren't cats Libertarian? They just want to be left alone.
Too_Many_Tools
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:39:48 -0700, wmbjkREM...@citlink.net wrote:
> >On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:15:28 -0500, Deucalion <some...@nowhere.net>
> >wrote:
>
> >>On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:29:01 -0700, wmbjkREM...@citlink.net wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
Gunner will never apologize.
The act of an apology is a sign of a REAL MAN.
As I said, Gunner will never apologize.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
That is a lie.
TMT
Beam Me Up Scotty
They don't mind rationing, we do.
They don't mind giving up freedom, we do.
They don't mind waiting for care, we do.
They don't mind socialism, we do.
Beam Me Up Scotty
Or someone that was wrong....
Gunner Asch
<Then-Destro...@Talk-n-dog.com> wrote:
>>> of her body with a lot of physical therapy and hard work. The
>>> permanent brain damage was indeed permanent, but she has succeeded in
>>> doing something that he can't. She has a job and a relatively happy
>>> life. He turned out to be a sullen and unemployed. All of these are
>>> a result of his decisions.
>>>
>>> It is as it is, but it was he who made it that way.- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> Gunner will never apologize.
>>
>> The act of an apology is a sign of a REAL MAN.
>>
>
>Or someone that was wrong....
>
>> As I said, Gunner will never apologize.
>>
>> TMT
Im still waiting..nearly a month after the claim was made that I bad
mouthed someones wife or some such buffoonery.
Nothng has yet been cut and pasted here.
Im starting to think the claiment is an unadulterated liar of the worst
sort.
Still waiting.
Gunner
Buerste
> you do and I can understand that you think like that.
Gunner's right, you are too stupid.
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>
>"Deucalion" <som...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
See..he is a whinging behind the scenes fucktard. They are so
incompetent that leftwingers will not allow them a front seat roll...or
even a good hookup to that brain control computer in DNC headquarters.
So the best they can do is feed em some lsd laden bran flakes, plug
their walkmen headphones into a fast feed recording, then turn them
loose on the world, even before their eyeballs syncronize again.
Douchbag is at the bottom of the Leftwingers heap...and the top of that
heap is far below the bottomlayer of slime at the bottom of the
Marianas Trench.
Simply kill file him and wait for the Great Cull. Maybe someone will
send you a video of his end.
HH&C
I would like to see an example of that. Please try harder.
And why did you just spam the following news groups???
rec.crafts.metalworking,
misc.survivalism,
alt.rush-limbaugh,
alt.politics,
talk.politics.guns
Too_Many_Tools
Again lies.
We ration, we give up our freedoom, we wait for care and we have
socialism.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
> "Deucalion" <some...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
>
> news:7hptf559d79da50j1...@4ax.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:35:29 -0800, Gunner Asch
> > <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>
>
> >>>"Deucalion" <some...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:52qlf51qhod8a7oat...@4ax.com...
> >>>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:46:20 -0500, "Buerste" <buer...@wowway.com>
> >>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>"Deucalion" <some...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:9ehkf51rplrso86g5...@4ax.com...
> >>>>>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:39:48 -0700, wmbjkREM...@citlink.net wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:15:28 -0500, Deucalion <some...@nowhere.net>
> >>>>>>>wrote:
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> >>>>>>>>On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:29:01 -0700, wmbjkREM...@citlink.net wrote:
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> >>>>>>>>>On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:45:42 -0500, "Buerste" <buer...@att.net>
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> - Show quoted text -
Look who is talking.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
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> - Show quoted text -
What example?
Got a problem with Free Speech?
Not apparently when you are the one doing the talking.
Hypocrite.
TMT
Lib Loo
"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7241fa00-708c-4014...@e20g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
I'm looking, but all I see are your gums flapping. Trimming unrelated
newsgroups, thanks!
Hawke
Speak for yourself. I'd trade our piece of shit system for a European
one in nothing flat. But then I'm not a stupid right wing ideologue.
Hawke
SaPeIsMa
"Hawke" <davesm...@digitalpath.net> wrote in message
news:hdq3k8$sjb$1...@aioe.org...
You're right
You're just an ignorant left-wing ideologue
Which is why you're dumb enough to want to change the US into a Euro-clone
HH&C
Exactly!!! An example of you being right.
> Got a problem with Free Speech?
>
> Not apparently when you are the one doing the talking.
>
> Hypocrite.
> TMT
How about that example of being right? How long do I have to wait?
Dan
> I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that Gunner Asch
> <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> reported Elvis on Fri, 13 Nov 2009
> 23:32:56 -0800 in misc.survivalism:
>>> How about a barn full of libtards in leg irons casting bullets 16 hours a
>>> day? Feed 'em some kibble and water. When the croak, render them into lube
>>> sticks...and kibble.
>>>
>> Nah...Libtards are simply too stupid and would be dumping the melting
>> pots on themselves with great regularlity.
>
> You'd recon they'd figure out not to do that the second or third
> time...
WE figure out not to do that BEFORE we consider doing it, unlike your
kind. But then, WE wouldn't be in leg irons...
Just reading your stupidity makes THAT obvious.
Dan
pyotr filipivich
17:03:16 -0800 in misc.survivalism:
>>>Nah...Libtards are simply too stupid and would be dumping the melting
>>>pots on themselves with great regularlity.
>>
>> You'd recon they'd figure out not to do that the second or third
>>time...
>
>With 20lbs of 650F molten lead in their laps the first time...shrug..all
>you can do is drag the screaming mess out into the alley and down aways
>and bash their skulls in. Even the most heartless will put down an
>injured animal.
Yeah, there is that. I mean, all god's critters deserve humane
treatment.
>
>But on the other hand..you now have spare ammo to do it with if you dont
>mind wasting a nickle on a Leftard.
>>
>>>If you want teams casting consistant bullets..snag a bunch of Latinos.
>>
>> Ayiii - now you're going to have to pay them!
>>
>> OTOH, you'll save a bunch over the liberals, because they won't be
>>wasting the occasional pour ... it'll probably work out better.
>
>Ayup..and on payday..you simply do as most Democrats do..and call INS.
The hell I will! Those who did the work, deserve their money!
Company I worked for had INS raid, Lost about 50 people. Some of
those people had been with the company for years, and _they_ were very
good workers. Good and knowledgeable - I'm told the lathe section
went down for months because the operator was one of the illegals, and
the company had to re-engineer some products for lathe.
Anyway, I didn't think anything of it at the time, but considering
later "developments", I would not put it past the new management to
have dropped the dime, the rat bastards. Can't prove it, but still
can't rule it out as something they would not do.
tschus
pyotr
Gunner Asch
Ive lived in California for decades..and Ive seen INS be called in on
crews of illegals. with great regularity just after the harvest has
been completed, but before they were paid....the farmers being
Democrats. I like you would pay them..but..shrug...Democrats simply are
hypocrits and cannot be trusted, for the most part.
After all..California is Democrat controlled...like the top 10 hardest
hit of the economically challenged states currently. In fact..California
is #3 of the worst hit.
Pity that Democrats simply cannot be trusted with ones economy, ones
Rights or ones Freedom.
Gunner
Hawke
When they are better off than we are why is it dumb to want to do things
their way? You would rather stay with the system we have that is clearly
inferior. I'd like to know why a smart person would do that. Our system
is going to fail and everybody who knows anything about the issue knows
that. We have to change or go bankrupt. But you oh wise one want to stay
with it. You would make a good Titanic captain.
Hawke
Jeff M
>> On Nov 14, 1:02 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-Everyth...@Talk-n-
>> dog.com> wrote:
>>> Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why can the majority of advanced countries other than the United
>>>> States provide adequate medical care for their populations?
>>>> TMT
>>> Because the other countries are willing to settle for less.
>> That is a lie.
>>
>> TMT
>
> They don't mind rationing, we do.
Healthcare is heavily rationed in the US, with up to 40% of claims denied.
> They don't mind giving up freedom, we do.
Like the freedom to change jobs without losing healthcare?
> They don't mind waiting for care, we do.
Waits in the US are often far longer than in other western nations.
> They don't mind socialism, we do.
You don't know what that word means.