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Re: CLUE! *When You Defend Phil Robertson, Here's What You're Really Defending*
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Rudy Canoza
Dec 24, 2013, 9:55:49 PM12/24/13
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On 12/24/2013 6:38 PM, Bugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in
> news:d7469$52ba11d3$414e828e$30...@EVERESTKC.NET:
>
>> [piggybacking]
>>
>> On 12/22/2013 7:04 AM, Harold Burton wrote:
>>> In article <b761ef4c-8268-4e51...@googlegroups.com>,
>>> "Tom Sr." <thomas.sw...@gmail.com> whined:
>>>
>>>> ----------
>>>> http://www.businessinsider.com/when-you-defend-phil-robertson-heres-w
>>>> hat-youre -really-defending-2013-12
>>>>
>>>> *When You Defend Phil Robertson, Here's What You're Really
>>>> Defending*
>>
>> I haven't seen anyone defend Phil Robertson, and I doubt you have,
>> either. What good people have been saying is that even people who
>> express unpopular opinions shouldn't be hounded out of public life.
>
> And yet you rightards did exactly that with the Dixie Chicks.
I didn't do anything. I'm not right-wing.
The difference is you idiot fuckwitted America-hating leftards can't
stand your own medicine.
>>
>> You left-wing fascists just don't get it. Your shitty fa�ade of
>> pretending to defend freedom of expression is exposed as worthless
>> posturing. You only want to defend freedom of expression with which
>> you agree.
>>
> No, it's
you leftards
> that
who
> have the franchise on hypocracy.
Absolutely correct.
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Free Malware - Bugster Virusworks www.buggycode.com
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> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in
> news:d7469$52ba11d3$414e828e$30...@EVERESTKC.NET:
>
>> [piggybacking]
>>
>> On 12/22/2013 7:04 AM, Harold Burton wrote:
>>> In article <b761ef4c-8268-4e51...@googlegroups.com>,
>>> "Tom Sr." <thomas.sw...@gmail.com> whined:
>>>
>>>> ----------
>>>> http://www.businessinsider.com/when-you-defend-phil-robertson-heres-w
>>>> hat-youre -really-defending-2013-12
>>>>
>>>> *When You Defend Phil Robertson, Here's What You're Really
>>>> Defending*
>>
>> I haven't seen anyone defend Phil Robertson, and I doubt you have,
>> either. What good people have been saying is that even people who
>> express unpopular opinions shouldn't be hounded out of public life.
>
> And yet you rightards did exactly that with the Dixie Chicks.
I didn't do anything. I'm not right-wing.
The difference is you idiot fuckwitted America-hating leftards can't
stand your own medicine.
>>
>> You left-wing fascists just don't get it. Your shitty fa�ade of
>> pretending to defend freedom of expression is exposed as worthless
>> posturing. You only want to defend freedom of expression with which
>> you agree.
>>
> No, it's
you leftards
> that
who
> have the franchise on hypocracy.
Absolutely correct.
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Free Malware - Bugster Virusworks www.buggycode.com
> --------------------------------------------------------
Rudy Canoza
Dec 24, 2013, 10:16:05 PM12/24/13
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On 12/24/2013 6:43 PM, Bugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
> Harold Burton <:
>
>> In article <d7469$52ba11d3$414e828e$30...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
>
> Hell, you rightards don't even know what you're defending.
The Dixie Chunks and the Robertsons aren't remotely comparable. The
Dixie Chunks offended their own fucking audience; that audience reacted,
entirely within their rights. The Robertson comments offended queers
and their allies, the self-styled Great Defenders of Queers, who are
*not* part of their audience. Those offended pantywaists tried to get
the Robersons and their show punished, even though the pantywaists
aren't part of the audience.
The difference is, when the Chunks offended their audience, that
audience rose up and said "*WE* don't want to hear their music." In the
case of the pantywaist queers who were offended by Robertson's comments,
they said "*YOU* who like their program should no longer have the right
to see it." That's the big difference: the left, as always, was trying
to censor what *OTHERS* get to watch and hear, based on their values.
That's just wrong.
> Harold Burton <:
>
>> In article <d7469$52ba11d3$414e828e$30...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
>> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>
>>> I haven't seen anyone defend Phil Robertson, and I doubt you have,
>>> either. What good people have been saying is that even people who
>>> express unpopular opinions shouldn't be hounded out of public life.
>>>
>>>
>>> I haven't seen anyone defend Phil Robertson, and I doubt you have,
>>> either. What good people have been saying is that even people who
>>> express unpopular opinions shouldn't be hounded out of public life.
>>>
>>> You left-wing fascists just don't get it. Your shitty fa�ade of
>>> pretending to defend freedom of expression is exposed as worthless
>>> posturing. You only want to defend freedom of expression with which
>>> you agree.
>>
>> Bingo!!!
>>> pretending to defend freedom of expression is exposed as worthless
>>> posturing. You only want to defend freedom of expression with which
>>> you agree.
>>
>
> Hell, you rightards don't even know what you're defending.
The Dixie Chunks and the Robertsons aren't remotely comparable. The
Dixie Chunks offended their own fucking audience; that audience reacted,
entirely within their rights. The Robertson comments offended queers
and their allies, the self-styled Great Defenders of Queers, who are
*not* part of their audience. Those offended pantywaists tried to get
the Robersons and their show punished, even though the pantywaists
aren't part of the audience.
The difference is, when the Chunks offended their audience, that
audience rose up and said "*WE* don't want to hear their music." In the
case of the pantywaist queers who were offended by Robertson's comments,
they said "*YOU* who like their program should no longer have the right
to see it." That's the big difference: the left, as always, was trying
to censor what *OTHERS* get to watch and hear, based on their values.
That's just wrong.
Billy
Dec 26, 2013, 4:11:10 PM12/26/13
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In article <19770$52ba4a06$414e828e$67...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
It seems that Phil Robertson can say anything he wants. No one is going
to stop him. He has the 1st Amendment to protect him, just like
Chicken-Fil_A. On the other hand, a sponsor may not want someone who
justifies hatred against a consuming minority to be their sponsor. It's
called the "Free-Market" of ideas. You believe in the "Free Market",
don't you comrade?
Then there is the way that you right wing nut-jobs are trying to destroy
America.
In the Declaration of Independence it says, "for the support of this
Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine
Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and
our sacred Honor.
And in the Pre-amble to the U.S. Constitution it says, "We the People of
the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish
Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,
promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to
ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution
for the United States of America."
Where ever you look in the Declaration, and the Constitution it says,
"We".
You right wing nut-jobs weaken our country by turning one part of it
against the other. If I pray, and to who, and who is in my bed is none
of your damn business. A house divided will not stand. The world has
changed. Black people have the same rights as White People. Women can
vote now. We got rid of the king, and are supposed to have a republic.
Get over it, try to keep up, and say good-bye to that nut-job Earl.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw7gNf_9njs>
<http://alangraysonemails.tumblr.com/post/64719421164/the-tea-party-no-mo
re-popular-than-the-klan>
<http://www.gallup.com/poll/160373/democrats-racially-diverse-republicans
-mostly-white.aspx>
Democrats Racially Diverse; Republicans Mostly White
Extinction isn't just for Dinosaurs anymore, join the "Guardians of
Privilege" on there Lemming's Run to Oblivion.
Tea,
the new Kool Aid
--
Remember Rachel Corrie
<http://www.rachelcorrie.org/>
Welcome to the New America.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg>
CRudy anoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
> On 12/24/2013 6:38 PM, Bugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
>
> > CRudy anoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote in
> On 12/24/2013 6:38 PM, Bugster, lying racist shitbag *looter*, lied:
>
to stop him. He has the 1st Amendment to protect him, just like
Chicken-Fil_A. On the other hand, a sponsor may not want someone who
justifies hatred against a consuming minority to be their sponsor. It's
called the "Free-Market" of ideas. You believe in the "Free Market",
don't you comrade?
Then there is the way that you right wing nut-jobs are trying to destroy
America.
In the Declaration of Independence it says, "for the support of this
Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine
Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and
our sacred Honor.
And in the Pre-amble to the U.S. Constitution it says, "We the People of
the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish
Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,
promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to
ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution
for the United States of America."
Where ever you look in the Declaration, and the Constitution it says,
"We".
You right wing nut-jobs weaken our country by turning one part of it
against the other. If I pray, and to who, and who is in my bed is none
of your damn business. A house divided will not stand. The world has
changed. Black people have the same rights as White People. Women can
vote now. We got rid of the king, and are supposed to have a republic.
Get over it, try to keep up, and say good-bye to that nut-job Earl.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw7gNf_9njs>
<http://alangraysonemails.tumblr.com/post/64719421164/the-tea-party-no-mo
re-popular-than-the-klan>
<http://www.gallup.com/poll/160373/democrats-racially-diverse-republicans
-mostly-white.aspx>
Democrats Racially Diverse; Republicans Mostly White
Extinction isn't just for Dinosaurs anymore, join the "Guardians of
Privilege" on there Lemming's Run to Oblivion.
Tea,
the new Kool Aid
--
Remember Rachel Corrie
<http://www.rachelcorrie.org/>
Welcome to the New America.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg>
dca...@krl.org
Dec 26, 2013, 4:49:59 PM12/26/13
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On Thursday, December 26, 2013 4:11:10 PM UTC-5, Billy wrote:
>
On the other hand, a sponsor may not want someone who
>
> justifies hatred against a consuming minority to be their sponsor. It's
>
> called the "Free-Market" of ideas. You believe in the "Free Market",
>
> don't you comrade?
>
>
>
It should be " Free marketplace of ideas " not " free market " of ideas. The idea being that all ideas should be allowed to be presented and the best ideas will prevail. In other words one should not try to dictate what people say, Which is pretty much exactly opposite of what you want to happen.
>
On the other hand, a sponsor may not want someone who
>
> justifies hatred against a consuming minority to be their sponsor. It's
>
> called the "Free-Market" of ideas. You believe in the "Free Market",
>
> don't you comrade?
>
>
>
Dan
Rudy Canoza
Dec 26, 2013, 4:56:12 PM12/26/13
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On 12/26/2013 1:11 PM, Billy wrote:
> In article <19770$52ba4a06$414e828e$67...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
Anyone can. The issue is can one say what one wants without people who
don't like what you say trying to do everything and anything they can to
fuck you over for it?
> On the other hand, a sponsor may not want someone who
> justifies hatred against a consuming minority to be their sponsor.
Sponsors are free to extend or withdraw their sponsorship according to
whatever criteria they have.
The issue, of course, is that Cracker Barrel and other sponsors probably
were quite happy to continue their sponsorship, until they started
getting threatened by queers.
> In article <19770$52ba4a06$414e828e$67...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
don't like what you say trying to do everything and anything they can to
fuck you over for it?
> On the other hand, a sponsor may not want someone who
> justifies hatred against a consuming minority to be their sponsor.
whatever criteria they have.
The issue, of course, is that Cracker Barrel and other sponsors probably
were quite happy to continue their sponsorship, until they started
getting threatened by queers.
Message has been deleted
Billy
Dec 26, 2013, 7:05:01 PM12/26/13
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In article <1956b$52bca2e8$414e828e$17...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
You mean people are going to freely not choose their products. Look at
it this way, now they have the bigot market all to themselves. I can see
the signs now, "BUY BIGOT"!
I know, those queers can be quite nasty when they start criticizing your
choice of patters, and prints, or pairing mango with magenta. Next thing
you know they'll want you to do something about your nasal, and ear
hair. Good luck.
it this way, now they have the bigot market all to themselves. I can see
the signs now, "BUY BIGOT"!
I know, those queers can be quite nasty when they start criticizing your
choice of patters, and prints, or pairing mango with magenta. Next thing
you know they'll want you to do something about your nasal, and ear
hair. Good luck.
Rudy Canoza
Dec 26, 2013, 7:45:27 PM12/26/13
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The Daring Dufas
Dec 26, 2013, 9:45:17 PM12/26/13
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On 12/26/2013 3:11 PM, Demented Racist Silly Billy wrote:
> In article <19770$52ba4a06$414e828e$67...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
> CRudy anoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>
Poor Billy, Negro American and professional victim of anything he can
> In article <19770$52ba4a06$414e828e$67...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
> CRudy anoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>
blame on Caucasians. ^_^
Kill Whitey!
TDD
The Daring Dufas
Dec 26, 2013, 11:28:20 PM12/26/13
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On 12/26/2013 6:05 PM, Demented Racist Silly Billy wrote:
> In article <1956b$52bca2e8$414e828e$17...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>
> In article <1956b$52bca2e8$414e828e$17...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
> Rudy Canoza <LaLaLa...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>
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