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6 quarts of oil instead of 5, in my pickup

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Ignoramus4239

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Mar 19, 2010, 9:08:59 AM3/19/10
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My truck requires 5 quarts of oil. I made a mistake yesterday when
changing oil, and put in 6 quarts instead of five (I squarely blame my
kids for this). Would you think that I am jeopardizing anything if I
simply keep that amount and do not drain excess oil.

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Steve W.

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Mar 19, 2010, 9:16:50 AM3/19/10
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What engine? Many have some extra room BUT it depends on the engine.
Also depends on the filter.

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John

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Mar 19, 2010, 9:37:00 AM3/19/10
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I don't know what kind of truck you have but it is quite common to
overfill marine diesels, particularly if you check oil while underway
as there is a certain amount of oil in the top end while the engine is
running which drains back into the case when the engine is shut down.
I've often shut the engine in the boat down and discovered that those
times I checked and found the oil down a little and added more ended
up a quart over when I shutdown. It will burn off in time. I've done
the same thing in my Isuzu pickup (2.8 Ltr. turbocharged diesel) when
I was "free hand" filling from a gallon jug, with no problems.

John B.

Ignoramus4239

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Mar 19, 2010, 9:38:12 AM3/19/10
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This is Chevy silverado 2500 HD, 6 cylinder engine.

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Pete C.

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Mar 19, 2010, 10:05:39 AM3/19/10
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It depends on the engine, and it's generally not a good idea to leave
excess in there, though 1 qt is not a lot. The main concern with over
filled oil is if the level reaches the point where the crankshaft is
spinning in it and causes foaming. Foamed oil will not pump and will
cause a catastrophic loss of oil pressure in the engine.

Joe AutoDrill

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Mar 19, 2010, 10:30:07 AM3/19/10
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> It depends on the engine, and it's generally not a good idea to leave
> excess in there, though 1 qt is not a lot. The main concern with over
> filled oil is if the level reaches the point where the crankshaft is
> spinning in it and causes foaming. Foamed oil will not pump and will
> cause a catastrophic loss of oil pressure in the engine.

Also can build up additional pressure and pop a seal or leak out a vent.
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Pete C.

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Mar 19, 2010, 12:16:18 PM3/19/10
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Joe AutoDrill wrote:
>
> > It depends on the engine, and it's generally not a good idea to leave
> > excess in there, though 1 qt is not a lot. The main concern with over
> > filled oil is if the level reaches the point where the crankshaft is
> > spinning in it and causes foaming. Foamed oil will not pump and will
> > cause a catastrophic loss of oil pressure in the engine.
>
> Also can build up additional pressure and pop a seal or leak out a vent.

No, there wouldn't be any way to build up additional pressure unless
some of the oil galleys were plugged up. The pump pumps oil constantly,
it runs through the bearing and various oil galleys and eventually runs
back down to the sump. More oil in the sump doesn't change that process
unless it foams in which case the pumping basically stops, the engine
starves for oil and things go downhill rapidly after that.

Bob La Londe

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Mar 19, 2010, 1:12:45 PM3/19/10
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"Ignoramus4239" <ignora...@NOSPAM.4239.invalid> wrote in message
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I don't know if a quart is enough depending on the volume of your sump, but
it seems I read somewhere that at mid to high RPMs some engines could be
damaged and thrown out of balance dynamically by having the crank journals
slamming into excess oil.

Steve W.

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Mar 19, 2010, 1:22:37 PM3/19/10
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A 2500HD with a V6 in it? Or did you mean a 6 liter (more likely)

If you installed a new filter and added the oil you shouldn't have a
problem. There is enough room in that case to handle it. Check the
dipstick and you will probably see the oil level is less than 1/2 of the
add hash-marks above the full line.


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Ignoramus4239

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Mar 19, 2010, 1:46:41 PM3/19/10
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On 2010-03-19, Steve W. <csr...@NOTyahoo.com> wrote:
> Ignoramus4239 wrote:
>> On 2010-03-19, Steve W. <csr...@NOTyahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Ignoramus4239 wrote:
>>>> My truck requires 5 quarts of oil. I made a mistake yesterday when
>>>> changing oil, and put in 6 quarts instead of five (I squarely blame my
>>>> kids for this). Would you think that I am jeopardizing anything if I
>>>> simply keep that amount and do not drain excess oil.
>>>>
>>>> i
>>> What engine? Many have some extra room BUT it depends on the engine.
>>> Also depends on the filter.
>>>
>>
>> This is Chevy silverado 2500 HD, 6 cylinder engine.
>>
>> i
>
> A 2500HD with a V6 in it? Or did you mean a 6 liter (more likely)

Sorry, I meant 6 liter V8.

> If you installed a new filter and added the oil you shouldn't have a
> problem. There is enough room in that case to handle it. Check the
> dipstick and you will probably see the oil level is less than 1/2 of
> the add hash-marks above the full line.

That's right. It is above the full line, but not by much.

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Yooper

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Mar 19, 2010, 2:08:28 PM3/19/10
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:46:41 -0500, Ignoramus4239 wrote:

> On 2010-03-19, Steve W. <csr...@NOTyahoo.com> wrote:
>> Ignoramus4239 wrote:
>>> On 2010-03-19, Steve W. <csr...@NOTyahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Ignoramus4239 wrote:

>
> Sorry, I meant 6 liter V8.
>

That's odd. I believe we have the same model truck (6.0 Liter)
and mine definitely takes 6 quarts with filter. Just looked in my
owners manual.

Wes

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Mar 19, 2010, 9:10:49 PM3/19/10
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Ignoramus4239 <ignora...@NOSPAM.4239.invalid> wrote:

It is pretty easy to get it out, crawl under the thing, take the filter off, pour out the
contents, put back on. Easier than pulling the drain plug and stuffing it back in time.

I don't think you want the crank hitting the oil, it will toss it up on the cylinders and
increase your consumption. I guess that is self correcting though. ;)

At high rpm's, an actually ball of oil can be wrapped around your crank eating into rear
wheel hp. The last engine I built for my dailly driver had a windage tray in it deal with
it. Looking back, I wonder just how well that thing worked since it seems like it would
cause issues with drain back. Oh well

http://forums.moparmusclemagazine.com/70/7141434/mopar-engines/what-is-a-windage-tray/index.html

Some thoughts on it.

Wes

Larry Jaques

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Bob AZ

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Mar 19, 2010, 10:30:56 PM3/19/10
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On Mar 19, 6:08�am, Ignoramus4239 <ignoramus4...@NOSPAM.4239.invalid>
wrote:

I had this happen that the dealer put in two or more extra quarts.
They had a suction thing that took it out in aboput 2 minutes. I could
have bought a suction thing at AutoZone and did the same thing. And
saved 3 gallons of gas and the time to drive to the dealers and back.
But I wanted to meke the dealer awware of the screwup

Bob AZ

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Mar 19, 2010, 11:47:37 PM3/19/10
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:16:18 -0600, "Pete C." <aux3....@snet.net>
wrote:

It is not "oil pressure" that builds up, but crankcase pressure -
and generally only if the oil gets frothed from hitting the crank. It
CAN take out seals - but the drop in oil pressure from foaming is more
likely, and more serious.

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Mar 19, 2010, 11:50:47 PM3/19/10
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:46:41 -0500, Ignoramus4239
<ignora...@NOSPAM.4239.invalid> wrote:

If it's not more than about 1/4 inch over, I woudn't sweat it -
particularly on the big engine.

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Mar 19, 2010, 11:57:38 PM3/19/10
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4 .5 Canadian quarts., 5.11 liters, or 5.4 US Quarts.

Ignoramus4239

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Mar 20, 2010, 12:03:58 AM3/20/10
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What it turns out is that my sump capacity is 6 quarts, WITH FILTER. I
was measuring the fill level prior to filling the filter. I believe
that I am just fine the way I am.

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Don Foreman

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Mar 20, 2010, 1:57:28 AM3/20/10
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 08:08:59 -0500, Ignoramus4239
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Go with it, sue the kids if there's a problem.

Winston

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Mar 20, 2010, 2:07:07 AM3/20/10
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On 3/19/2010 7:30 AM, Joe AutoDrill wrote:
>> It depends on the engine, and it's generally not a good idea to leave
>> excess in there, though 1 qt is not a lot. The main concern with over
>> filled oil is if the level reaches the point where the crankshaft is
>> spinning in it and causes foaming. Foamed oil will not pump and will
>> cause a catastrophic loss of oil pressure in the engine.
>
> Also can build up additional pressure and pop a seal or leak out a vent.

That's what happened with my Camry.

--Winston

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Mar 20, 2010, 8:14:07 AM3/20/10
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Another thread, much ado about nothing.

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Joe AutoDrill

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"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Another thread, much ado about nothing.

Not only that, but an oil thread... The worst of all threads in other
foirums I frequent (motorcycles mostly).

They are like a cancer that takes up bandwidth. :)

That being said, I'm glad the OP got an answer.

Mark Rand

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Mar 20, 2010, 10:38:29 AM3/20/10
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On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 08:53:57 -0400, "Joe AutoDrill" <auto...@yunx.com>
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>"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Another thread, much ado about nothing.
>
>Not only that, but an oil thread... The worst of all threads in other
>foirums I frequent

Aren't oil threads some weird sort of tapered buttress thread?

<GDR>


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Yooper

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Mar 20, 2010, 10:39:33 AM3/20/10
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I don't know where you are getting 5.4 quarts, Clare. My owners manual
is right in front of me.

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Mar 20, 2010, 6:51:47 PM3/20/10
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Not sure of the capacity on the 6.0, but a very common capacity on
north american engines . a canadian gallon is hald a quart low - 5
liters just about bang on, and that is virtually 5 1/5 US quarts.

That said, my Mystique (v6) holds over 6 Canadian quarts with the
filter.

Larry Jaques

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On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 14:39:33 GMT, the infamous Yooper
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He has the Canuckistani translation with Chinglish exchange rates.
No big.

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Pete C.

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Mar 21, 2010, 1:33:58 PM3/21/10
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When I had a Chev 5.7L V8, it took 5 quarts, my Chev 7.4L V8 takes 7
quarts.

John

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May 25, 2010, 10:36:31 PM5/25/10
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Oil threads are another name for API threads.


John

Wes

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Jun 20, 2010, 11:54:30 AM6/20/10
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Ignoramus4239 <ignora...@NOSPAM.4239.invalid> wrote:

>My truck requires 5 quarts of oil. I made a mistake yesterday when
>changing oil, and put in 6 quarts instead of five (I squarely blame my
>kids for this). Would you think that I am jeopardizing anything if I
>simply keep that amount and do not drain excess oil.
>
>i

I made a bigger mistake this morning. Changed the filter, drove off the ramp and put a
gallon of oil in.

When I went to drain my catch pan, I noticed my error. :(

Back up the ramps, pull plug, fill one 3# coffee can with oil, put the plug back in
(quickly).

Next oil change will be a bit early.

Wes

Ignoramus32553

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Jun 20, 2010, 12:00:36 PM6/20/10
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Scary stuff

Just be glad that you do not have homeowners association snooping
around. :)

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Stormin Mormon

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Jun 20, 2010, 6:37:43 PM6/20/10
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How old is this thread?

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Wes

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Jun 20, 2010, 7:03:03 PM6/20/10
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"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote:

>How old is this thread?


From March, Iggy started it, I remembered it when I fubared today.

I should change the order of operations to I drove up on ramp, changed filter, added a
gallon of oil and drove off forgetting I didn't drain the original contents first.

It hasn't been my day today.

Wes

Ed Huntress

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"Wes" <ClutchAtL...@Gmail.com> wrote in message
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Your memory for discussions here is impressive.

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