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Gunner Asch
Oct 26, 2013, 11:52:48 PM10/26/13
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Interesting...
http://freepatriot.org/2013/10/25/skip-obamacare-without-fined/
How To Skip Out On Obamacare Without Being Fined
Posted by: Corey Pepple Posted date: October 25, 2013
I will be submitting a new W-4 form to my employer. At the end of next
year I will not be owed a tax refund from the federal government. As a
patriotic act of disobedience, I am proudly refusing to purchase any
health insurance. This would mean that I will be subject to a fine of
1% of my total income (2% the following year, 2.5% thereafter). The
awesome thing about that is unless you are due a tax refund, the
government will never see a dime of that money.
My choice to not buy health insurance is a choice many people are
going to make, either to protest, or once the ObamaCare website is
properly up and running and they get a glimpse at the increased cost
of the monthly premiums under the Affordable Care Act. During his
radio show recently, Rush Limbaugh went into detail about all of this:
* Anyway, [my accountant] said to me that, according to the law,
the only way that the government can collect the fine or penalty for
you not buying insurance is if you are owed a tax refund. If you do
not owe a tax refund, they cannot go into your bank account or
anywhere else and get that money. Now, the sad thing is that most
people file their taxes to get a refund ’cause they think they’re
screwing the government, and they’re not. *
Therefore, the only way that they can collect the penalty or the
fine is by taking money from your refund. If you are not owed a
refund, they cannot get money from you. They can’t issue a lien.
They can’t garnish your wages. They can’t use any of the normal
procedures available to them if you owe them money, even though the
Supreme Court has said it’s a tax. So for those of us — I mean,
folks, I’m in fat city. I’m in fat city because I always structure to
where I owe money. Well, not entirely. There have been years. But
if you structure your taxes so that you do not get a refund, you do
not have to buy insurance and you do not have to pay a fine ’cause
they can’t collect it from you if you don’t have a refund due.
And that is just another nail in the coffin of Obamacare imploding
on itself.
Limbaugh also highlights that in order for ObamaCare to be successful,
the program must coerce a few million young, healthy suckers into
paying for something they don’t really need. All I need is a
catastrophic plan in event the unimaginable happens. Unfortunately,
Obama has banned affordable catastrophic plans and is utilizing the
mandate as a way to force us into paying for services that we don’t
all need like maternity, vision, dental, mental health, and drug and
alcohol treatment.
As many as 20 million people could lose their current health insurance
coverage because the coverage they are currently happy with has been
outlawed under ObamaCare. These ObamaCare victims are certainly going
to face higher premiums which they might not be able to buy, or just
don’t believe are worth the potential of a 50% to 150% premium
increase with a higher deductible.
Remember that you don’t have to pay a fine if you legally ensure that
at the end of the tax year you are not owed a refund from the federal
government.
Fight back!
--
"Their mommies tell them they're special, Liberals just don't understand
that "special" is a polite euphemism for;
*window licker on the short bus*"
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http://freepatriot.org/2013/10/25/skip-obamacare-without-fined/
How To Skip Out On Obamacare Without Being Fined
Posted by: Corey Pepple Posted date: October 25, 2013
I will be submitting a new W-4 form to my employer. At the end of next
year I will not be owed a tax refund from the federal government. As a
patriotic act of disobedience, I am proudly refusing to purchase any
health insurance. This would mean that I will be subject to a fine of
1% of my total income (2% the following year, 2.5% thereafter). The
awesome thing about that is unless you are due a tax refund, the
government will never see a dime of that money.
My choice to not buy health insurance is a choice many people are
going to make, either to protest, or once the ObamaCare website is
properly up and running and they get a glimpse at the increased cost
of the monthly premiums under the Affordable Care Act. During his
radio show recently, Rush Limbaugh went into detail about all of this:
* Anyway, [my accountant] said to me that, according to the law,
the only way that the government can collect the fine or penalty for
you not buying insurance is if you are owed a tax refund. If you do
not owe a tax refund, they cannot go into your bank account or
anywhere else and get that money. Now, the sad thing is that most
people file their taxes to get a refund ’cause they think they’re
screwing the government, and they’re not. *
Therefore, the only way that they can collect the penalty or the
fine is by taking money from your refund. If you are not owed a
refund, they cannot get money from you. They can’t issue a lien.
They can’t garnish your wages. They can’t use any of the normal
procedures available to them if you owe them money, even though the
Supreme Court has said it’s a tax. So for those of us — I mean,
folks, I’m in fat city. I’m in fat city because I always structure to
where I owe money. Well, not entirely. There have been years. But
if you structure your taxes so that you do not get a refund, you do
not have to buy insurance and you do not have to pay a fine ’cause
they can’t collect it from you if you don’t have a refund due.
And that is just another nail in the coffin of Obamacare imploding
on itself.
Limbaugh also highlights that in order for ObamaCare to be successful,
the program must coerce a few million young, healthy suckers into
paying for something they don’t really need. All I need is a
catastrophic plan in event the unimaginable happens. Unfortunately,
Obama has banned affordable catastrophic plans and is utilizing the
mandate as a way to force us into paying for services that we don’t
all need like maternity, vision, dental, mental health, and drug and
alcohol treatment.
As many as 20 million people could lose their current health insurance
coverage because the coverage they are currently happy with has been
outlawed under ObamaCare. These ObamaCare victims are certainly going
to face higher premiums which they might not be able to buy, or just
don’t believe are worth the potential of a 50% to 150% premium
increase with a higher deductible.
Remember that you don’t have to pay a fine if you legally ensure that
at the end of the tax year you are not owed a refund from the federal
government.
Fight back!
--
"Their mommies tell them they're special, Liberals just don't understand
that "special" is a polite euphemism for;
*window licker on the short bus*"
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David R. Birch
Oct 27, 2013, 1:57:36 AM10/27/13
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I was given an AMT DAO .45 Backup today w/ 2 mags. I'll take it apart to
clean it, lube rails with Garand grease and probably shoot it Tuesday.
The feed ramp may already have been polished. Ever try to fit a 1911 mag
to work?
David
clean it, lube rails with Garand grease and probably shoot it Tuesday.
The feed ramp may already have been polished. Ever try to fit a 1911 mag
to work?
David
rangerssuck
Oct 27, 2013, 9:31:12 AM10/27/13
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On Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:52:48 PM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
> Interesting...
[snip]
Taking financial advice from Limbaugh is something that only someone like you would do.
> Interesting...
[snip]
Taking financial advice from Limbaugh is something that only someone like you would do.
AlDrake
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First you expose yourself as a fringer by admitting you are aligned
with Alex Jones now it's Rush.
Whahahahaha.................
Talk about a "licker"................You are no different than any
other rightWing Nutter hypocrite now are you?
Gunner Asch
Oct 27, 2013, 3:38:14 PM10/27/13
to
On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 12:40:27 -0400, AlDrake <AlD...@Spamex.Com>
wrote:
So Comrade...hows things in Dzerzhinsky Square this week?
Laugh laugh laugh!!
Say..you missed another spot..over there. Enjoy!
Seen this yet?
http://www.truethevote.org/news/did-you-know-there-are-voter-fraud-convictions-and-prosecutions-in-46-states
laugh laugh laugh!!
wrote:
Laugh laugh laugh!!
Say..you missed another spot..over there. Enjoy!
Seen this yet?
http://www.truethevote.org/news/did-you-know-there-are-voter-fraud-convictions-and-prosecutions-in-46-states
laugh laugh laugh!!
AlDrake
Oct 27, 2013, 4:27:24 PM10/27/13
to
can reply with one that proves you are the fringer nut job. You will
always be a liar and loser. This is,however, no news flash for anyone
now is it?
RogerN
Oct 27, 2013, 6:44:26 PM10/27/13
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"AlDrake" wrote in message
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<snip>
In 1857, the Supreme Court, with 7 of the 9 Justices being Democrat, decided
that Dred Scott was not a citizen, but property.
Chief Justice Roger Taney, appointed by Democrat President Andrew Jackson,
wrote that slaves were "so far inferior...that the Negro might justly and
lawfully be reduced to slavery for their own benefit."
After the Civil War, the 13TH AMENDMENT was adopted December 6, 1865,
abolishing slavery in America.
Southern Democrat Legislatures then passed Black Codes and Jim Crow Laws,
requiring freed slaves to be "apprenticed" to "employers" and punished any
who left.
On November 22, 1865, Republicans denounced Mississippi's Democrat
legislature for enacting "black codes" which institutionalized racial
discrimination.
On February 5, 1866, Republican Congressman Thaddeus Stevens introduced
legislation to give former slaves "40 acres and a mule," but Democrats
opposed it, led by President Andrew Johnson.
On April 9, 1866, Republicans in Congress overrode Democrat President
Johnson's veto and passed the Civil Rights Act of 1866, conferring rights of
citizenship on African-Americans.
To force Southern States to grant State citizenship rights to freed slaves,
the U.S. House passed the 14TH AMENDMENT, May 10, 1866, as did the Senate,
June 8, 1866. One hundred percent of Democrats voted against it.
The 14TH AMENDMENT was adopted by the States on JULY 28, 1868.
Republican Congressman John Farnsworth of Illinois stated, March 31, 1871:
"The reason for the adoption (of the 14TH AMENDMENT)...was because of...
discriminating... legislation of those States... by which they were
punishing one class of men under different laws from another class."
On January 8, 1867, Republicans granted voting rights to African-Americans
in the District of Columbia, after overriding Democrat President Andrew
Johnson's veto.
On July 19, 1867, Republican passed legislation protecting voting rights of
African-Americans, after overriding Democrat President Andrew Johnson's
veto.
On March 30, 1868, Republicans began impeachment proceedings of Democrat
President Andrew Johnson.
On September 12, 1868, Democrats in Georgia's Senate expelled Civil rights
activist Tunis Campbell and 24 other Republican African-Americans, who would
later be reinstated by a Republican Congress.
On October 22, 1868, while campaigning for re-election, Republican
Congressman James Hinds was assassinated by Democrat terrorists who
organized vigilante groups known for intimidation tactics and lynchings.
The 15TH AMENDMENT was passed February 3, 1870, overcoming 97 percent
Democrat opposition, granting the right to vote to all Americans regardless
of race.
On May 31, 1870, Republican President U.S. Grant signed the Enforcement Act,
providing stiff penalties for depriving any American of their civil rights.
On June 22, 1870, Republican Congress created the U.S. Department of Justice
to safeguard the civil rights of African-Americans against Democrats in the
South.
On February 28, 1871, Republican Congress passed the Enforcement Act
providing federal protection for African-American voters.
On April 20, 1871, Republican Congress enacted the Ku Klux Klan Act,
outlawing Democratic Party-affiliated terrorist groups which oppressed
African-Americans.
On October 10, 1871, African-American Republican civil rights leader
Octavius Catto was murdered by a Democratic Party operative, after repeated
threats by Philadelphia Democrats against black voting.
On October 18, 1871, Republican President Ulysses S. Grant deployed U.S.
troops to combat violence committed by Democrat terrorists who formed the Ku
Klux Klan.
In solving one problem, another was created.
When questioned as to whether the 14th Amendment might open the door for the
Federal Government to usurp other rights away from the States, its sponsor,
Republican Congressman John Bingham of Ohio, replied:
"I repel the suggestion...that the Amendment will...take away from any State
any right that belongs to it."
Yet after the 14th Amendment was ratified, activist Federal Judges began to
do just that.
Darwinist philosopher Herbert Spencer influenced Harvard Law School dean
Christopher Columbus Langdell to apply evolution to the legal process.
Rather than upholding the intent of those who wrote the laws, Langdell
taught that laws could evolve through a series of "case precedents."
This influenced Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., to
challenge the traditionalist concept that the Constitution does not change,
so neither should its interpretation.
The 14th Amendment soon became a door by which Federal Courts gradually took
authority away from the States in other areas such as trade disputes, union
strikes, what farmers could grow, and eventually religion.
Federal Judges gradually began using the 14th Amendment to remove from
States' jurisdiction responsibility for:
-Freedom of speech and press, Gitlow v. New York, 1925 (re: Socialists) and
Fiske v. Kansas, 1927 (re: Unions);
-Freedom of press, Near v. Minnesota, 1931 (re: anti-Catholics); and
-Freedom of assembly, DeJonge v. Oregon, 1937 (re: Communists).
Federal Judges used the 14th Amendment to remove responsibility for
religious freedom from States' jurisdiction in cases regarding Jehovah's
Witnesses:
Cantwell v. Connecticut, 1940; Minersville School District v. Gobitis, 1940;
Jones v. Opelika, 1942; Taylor v. Mississippi, 1943; Martin v. Struthers,
1943; United States v. Ballard, 1944; Saia v. New York, 1948; and Niemotoko
v. Maryland, 1951.
Cases of anti-Catholic discrimination were appealed to the Supreme Court:
Pierce v. Society of Sisters of Holy Names of Jesus and Mary, 1925, and
Everson v. Board of Education, 1947.
Since then, Federal Courts used a case by case "crucible of litigation"
(Wallace v. Jaffree, 1985) to evolve the First Amendment into its present
anti-religious interpretation.
Thomas Jefferson warned that this would eventually happen, in a letter to
Charles Hammond in 1821:
"The germ of dissolution of our...government is in...the Federal
judiciary...working like gravity by night and by day, gaining a little today
and a little tomorrow...until all shall be usurped from the States."
The pre-14TH AMENDMENT view of "Separation of Church and State" was to
simply to limit the Federal Government, as President Thomas Jefferson stated
in his Second Inaugural Address, March 4, 1805:
"In matters of religion I have considered that its free exercise is placed
by the Constitution independent of the powers of the General (Federal)
Government.
I have therefore undertaken, on no occasion, to prescribe the religious
exercise suited to it; but have left them, as the Constitution found them,
under the direction and discipline of State and church authorities by the
several religious societies."
On January 23, 1808, Jefferson wrote to Samuel Miller:
"I consider the (Federal) Government of the United States as interdicted by
the Constitution from intermeddling with religious institutions, their
doctrines, discipline, or exercises.
This results not only from the provision that no law shall be made
respecting the establishment or free exercise of religion, but from that
also which reserves to the States the powers not delegated to the United
States (10th Amendment).
Certainly no power to prescribe any religious exercise, or to assume
authority in religious discipline, has been delegated to the General
(Federal) government. It must then rest with the States as far as it can be
in any human authority...
I do not believe it is for the interest of religion to invite the civil
magistrate to direct its exercises, its discipline, or its doctrines...
Every religious society has a right to determine for itself the times for
these exercises, and the objects proper for them, according to their own
particular tenets."
Summing up the pre-14TH AMENDMENT view, Justice Joseph Story wrote in A
Familiar Exposition of the Constitution of the United States, 1840:
"The real object of the First Amendment was not to countenance, much less to
advance Mohammedanism, or Judaism, or infidelity, by prostrating
Christianity, but to exclude all rivalry among Christian sects."
In his Commentaries on the Constitution, 1833, Supreme Court Justice Joseph
Story wrote:
"In some of the States, Episcopalians constituted the predominant sect; in
other, Presbyterians; in others, Congregationalists; in others, Quakers...
The whole power over the subject of religion is left exclusively to the
State governments, to be acted upon according to their own sense of justice
and the State Constitutions."
When North Carolina was considering ratifying the U.S. Constitution, its
Governor, Samuel Johnston, argued, July 30, 1788:
"The people of Massachusetts and Connecticut are mostly Presbyterians...
In Rhode Island, the tenets of the Baptists, I believe, prevail.
In New York, they are divided very much; the most numerous are the
Episcopalians and the Baptists.
In New Jersey, they are as much divided as we are.
In Pennsylvania, if any sect prevails more than others, it is that of the
Quakers.
In Maryland, the Episcopalians are most numerous, though there are other
sects.
In Virginia, there are many sects...
I hope, therefore, that gentlemen will see there is no cause of fear that
any one religion shall be exclusively established."
In 1889, John Bouvier's Law Dictionary (Philadelphia, J.B. Lippincott
Company) hinted of the novel use of the 14TH AMENDMENT in its definition of
the word "Religion":
"'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof'... By establishment of religion is
meant the setting up of state church, or at least conferring upon one church
of special favors which are denied to others...
The Christian religion is, of course, recognized by the government,
yet...the preservation of religious liberty is left to the States...
This provision and that relating to religious tests are limitations upon the
power of the (Federal) Congress only...Perhaps the Fourteenth Amendment may
give additional securities if needful."
Justice Joseph Story wrote in his Commentaries, 1833:
"Probably at the time of the adoption of the Constitution...the universal
sentiment in America was, that Christianity ought to receive encouragement
from the state so far as was not incompatible with the private rights of
conscience and the freedom of religious worship.
Any attempt to level all religions, and make it a matter of state policy to
hold all in utter indifference, would have created universal disapprobation,
if not universal indignation."
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> More right wing nuttery. For every loon site you make reference to I can
> reply with one that proves you are the fringer nut job. You will always be
> a liar and loser. This is,however, no news flash for anyone now is it?
In 1857, the Supreme Court, with 7 of the 9 Justices being Democrat, decided
that Dred Scott was not a citizen, but property.
Chief Justice Roger Taney, appointed by Democrat President Andrew Jackson,
wrote that slaves were "so far inferior...that the Negro might justly and
lawfully be reduced to slavery for their own benefit."
After the Civil War, the 13TH AMENDMENT was adopted December 6, 1865,
abolishing slavery in America.
Southern Democrat Legislatures then passed Black Codes and Jim Crow Laws,
requiring freed slaves to be "apprenticed" to "employers" and punished any
who left.
On November 22, 1865, Republicans denounced Mississippi's Democrat
legislature for enacting "black codes" which institutionalized racial
discrimination.
On February 5, 1866, Republican Congressman Thaddeus Stevens introduced
legislation to give former slaves "40 acres and a mule," but Democrats
opposed it, led by President Andrew Johnson.
On April 9, 1866, Republicans in Congress overrode Democrat President
Johnson's veto and passed the Civil Rights Act of 1866, conferring rights of
citizenship on African-Americans.
To force Southern States to grant State citizenship rights to freed slaves,
the U.S. House passed the 14TH AMENDMENT, May 10, 1866, as did the Senate,
June 8, 1866. One hundred percent of Democrats voted against it.
The 14TH AMENDMENT was adopted by the States on JULY 28, 1868.
Republican Congressman John Farnsworth of Illinois stated, March 31, 1871:
"The reason for the adoption (of the 14TH AMENDMENT)...was because of...
discriminating... legislation of those States... by which they were
punishing one class of men under different laws from another class."
On January 8, 1867, Republicans granted voting rights to African-Americans
in the District of Columbia, after overriding Democrat President Andrew
Johnson's veto.
On July 19, 1867, Republican passed legislation protecting voting rights of
African-Americans, after overriding Democrat President Andrew Johnson's
veto.
On March 30, 1868, Republicans began impeachment proceedings of Democrat
President Andrew Johnson.
On September 12, 1868, Democrats in Georgia's Senate expelled Civil rights
activist Tunis Campbell and 24 other Republican African-Americans, who would
later be reinstated by a Republican Congress.
On October 22, 1868, while campaigning for re-election, Republican
Congressman James Hinds was assassinated by Democrat terrorists who
organized vigilante groups known for intimidation tactics and lynchings.
The 15TH AMENDMENT was passed February 3, 1870, overcoming 97 percent
Democrat opposition, granting the right to vote to all Americans regardless
of race.
On May 31, 1870, Republican President U.S. Grant signed the Enforcement Act,
providing stiff penalties for depriving any American of their civil rights.
On June 22, 1870, Republican Congress created the U.S. Department of Justice
to safeguard the civil rights of African-Americans against Democrats in the
South.
On February 28, 1871, Republican Congress passed the Enforcement Act
providing federal protection for African-American voters.
On April 20, 1871, Republican Congress enacted the Ku Klux Klan Act,
outlawing Democratic Party-affiliated terrorist groups which oppressed
African-Americans.
On October 10, 1871, African-American Republican civil rights leader
Octavius Catto was murdered by a Democratic Party operative, after repeated
threats by Philadelphia Democrats against black voting.
On October 18, 1871, Republican President Ulysses S. Grant deployed U.S.
troops to combat violence committed by Democrat terrorists who formed the Ku
Klux Klan.
In solving one problem, another was created.
When questioned as to whether the 14th Amendment might open the door for the
Federal Government to usurp other rights away from the States, its sponsor,
Republican Congressman John Bingham of Ohio, replied:
"I repel the suggestion...that the Amendment will...take away from any State
any right that belongs to it."
Yet after the 14th Amendment was ratified, activist Federal Judges began to
do just that.
Darwinist philosopher Herbert Spencer influenced Harvard Law School dean
Christopher Columbus Langdell to apply evolution to the legal process.
Rather than upholding the intent of those who wrote the laws, Langdell
taught that laws could evolve through a series of "case precedents."
This influenced Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., to
challenge the traditionalist concept that the Constitution does not change,
so neither should its interpretation.
The 14th Amendment soon became a door by which Federal Courts gradually took
authority away from the States in other areas such as trade disputes, union
strikes, what farmers could grow, and eventually religion.
Federal Judges gradually began using the 14th Amendment to remove from
States' jurisdiction responsibility for:
-Freedom of speech and press, Gitlow v. New York, 1925 (re: Socialists) and
Fiske v. Kansas, 1927 (re: Unions);
-Freedom of press, Near v. Minnesota, 1931 (re: anti-Catholics); and
-Freedom of assembly, DeJonge v. Oregon, 1937 (re: Communists).
Federal Judges used the 14th Amendment to remove responsibility for
religious freedom from States' jurisdiction in cases regarding Jehovah's
Witnesses:
Cantwell v. Connecticut, 1940; Minersville School District v. Gobitis, 1940;
Jones v. Opelika, 1942; Taylor v. Mississippi, 1943; Martin v. Struthers,
1943; United States v. Ballard, 1944; Saia v. New York, 1948; and Niemotoko
v. Maryland, 1951.
Cases of anti-Catholic discrimination were appealed to the Supreme Court:
Pierce v. Society of Sisters of Holy Names of Jesus and Mary, 1925, and
Everson v. Board of Education, 1947.
Since then, Federal Courts used a case by case "crucible of litigation"
(Wallace v. Jaffree, 1985) to evolve the First Amendment into its present
anti-religious interpretation.
Thomas Jefferson warned that this would eventually happen, in a letter to
Charles Hammond in 1821:
"The germ of dissolution of our...government is in...the Federal
judiciary...working like gravity by night and by day, gaining a little today
and a little tomorrow...until all shall be usurped from the States."
The pre-14TH AMENDMENT view of "Separation of Church and State" was to
simply to limit the Federal Government, as President Thomas Jefferson stated
in his Second Inaugural Address, March 4, 1805:
"In matters of religion I have considered that its free exercise is placed
by the Constitution independent of the powers of the General (Federal)
Government.
I have therefore undertaken, on no occasion, to prescribe the religious
exercise suited to it; but have left them, as the Constitution found them,
under the direction and discipline of State and church authorities by the
several religious societies."
On January 23, 1808, Jefferson wrote to Samuel Miller:
"I consider the (Federal) Government of the United States as interdicted by
the Constitution from intermeddling with religious institutions, their
doctrines, discipline, or exercises.
This results not only from the provision that no law shall be made
respecting the establishment or free exercise of religion, but from that
also which reserves to the States the powers not delegated to the United
States (10th Amendment).
Certainly no power to prescribe any religious exercise, or to assume
authority in religious discipline, has been delegated to the General
(Federal) government. It must then rest with the States as far as it can be
in any human authority...
I do not believe it is for the interest of religion to invite the civil
magistrate to direct its exercises, its discipline, or its doctrines...
Every religious society has a right to determine for itself the times for
these exercises, and the objects proper for them, according to their own
particular tenets."
Summing up the pre-14TH AMENDMENT view, Justice Joseph Story wrote in A
Familiar Exposition of the Constitution of the United States, 1840:
"The real object of the First Amendment was not to countenance, much less to
advance Mohammedanism, or Judaism, or infidelity, by prostrating
Christianity, but to exclude all rivalry among Christian sects."
In his Commentaries on the Constitution, 1833, Supreme Court Justice Joseph
Story wrote:
"In some of the States, Episcopalians constituted the predominant sect; in
other, Presbyterians; in others, Congregationalists; in others, Quakers...
The whole power over the subject of religion is left exclusively to the
State governments, to be acted upon according to their own sense of justice
and the State Constitutions."
When North Carolina was considering ratifying the U.S. Constitution, its
Governor, Samuel Johnston, argued, July 30, 1788:
"The people of Massachusetts and Connecticut are mostly Presbyterians...
In Rhode Island, the tenets of the Baptists, I believe, prevail.
In New York, they are divided very much; the most numerous are the
Episcopalians and the Baptists.
In New Jersey, they are as much divided as we are.
In Pennsylvania, if any sect prevails more than others, it is that of the
Quakers.
In Maryland, the Episcopalians are most numerous, though there are other
sects.
In Virginia, there are many sects...
I hope, therefore, that gentlemen will see there is no cause of fear that
any one religion shall be exclusively established."
In 1889, John Bouvier's Law Dictionary (Philadelphia, J.B. Lippincott
Company) hinted of the novel use of the 14TH AMENDMENT in its definition of
the word "Religion":
"'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof'... By establishment of religion is
meant the setting up of state church, or at least conferring upon one church
of special favors which are denied to others...
The Christian religion is, of course, recognized by the government,
yet...the preservation of religious liberty is left to the States...
This provision and that relating to religious tests are limitations upon the
power of the (Federal) Congress only...Perhaps the Fourteenth Amendment may
give additional securities if needful."
Justice Joseph Story wrote in his Commentaries, 1833:
"Probably at the time of the adoption of the Constitution...the universal
sentiment in America was, that Christianity ought to receive encouragement
from the state so far as was not incompatible with the private rights of
conscience and the freedom of religious worship.
Any attempt to level all religions, and make it a matter of state policy to
hold all in utter indifference, would have created universal disapprobation,
if not universal indignation."
vinny
Oct 28, 2013, 6:05:15 AM10/28/13
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> Chief Justice Roger Taney, appointed by Democrat President Andrew Jackson,
> wrote that slaves were "so far inferior...that the Negro might justly and
> lawfully be reduced to slavery for their own benefit."
>
I think he was referring to their povertal existance at the time. They were
> wrote that slaves were "so far inferior...that the Negro might justly and
> lawfully be reduced to slavery for their own benefit."
>
starving to death, no skills, no help.
In the context he was speaking, it makes sence. As much sence as locking up
loons for their own safety.
Gunner Asch
Oct 28, 2013, 6:22:51 AM10/28/13
to
and largest empires? Black ones.
The slaves that were sent to North America..were the losers in tribal
wars and were sold to the Arabs by the black winners.
Gunner
--
"Their mommies tell them they're special, Liberals just don't understand
that "special" is a polite euphemism for;
*window licker on the short bus*"
AlDrake
Oct 28, 2013, 8:54:42 PM10/28/13
to
this post? News flash. This is 2013 where we are living in the shadow of
the criminal rightwing that got more Americans killed than all terrorist
attacks combined. Created more terrorist and lives in fear that the
democrats will make things right again as usual. Every republican has
left American in dire straights and deep recession in decades and can't
win elections today. It will be a long time before a republican will
hold the WH again. The right. The party of hate and lies but whatever it
takes? Right?
Gunner Asch
Oct 28, 2013, 9:54:09 PM10/28/13
to
On Mon, 28 Oct 2013 20:54:42 -0400, AlDrake <AlD...@Spamex.Com>
wrote:
>the criminal leftwing that got more Americans killed than all terrorist
>hold the WH again. The Left. The party of hate and lies but whatever it
>takes? Right?
Corrected that delusion of yours. No need to thank me. Just a public
service, picking up the trash behind leftwingers.
Gunner
--
"Their mommies tell them they're special, Liberals just don't understand
that "special" is a polite euphemism for;
*window licker on the short bus*"
wrote:
>attacks combined. Created more terrorist and lives in fear that the
>democrats will make things right again as usual. Every democrat has
>left American in dire straights and deep recession in decades and can't
>win elections today. It will be a long time before a democrat will
>hold the WH again. The Left. The party of hate and lies but whatever it
>takes? Right?
Corrected that delusion of yours. No need to thank me. Just a public
service, picking up the trash behind leftwingers.
Gunner
--
"Their mommies tell them they're special, Liberals just don't understand
that "special" is a polite euphemism for;
*window licker on the short bus*"
vinny
Oct 29, 2013, 6:15:14 AM10/29/13
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Gunner Asch
Oct 29, 2013, 2:10:27 PM10/29/13
to
--
"Their mommies tell them they're special, Liberals just don't understand
that "special" is a polite euphemism for;
*window licker on the short bus*"
Randy333
Oct 29, 2013, 6:35:26 PM10/29/13
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On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 20:52:48 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>they can’t collect it from you if you don’t have a refund due.
>
>
If the IRS says you owe taxes, then you owe taxes. They can seize
your bank account and/or your property. Just because you are not
getting a refund don't mean shit.
If the IRS was put in charge of the "fine" then they will treat it
like any other tax owed.
Remove 333 to reply.
Randy
wrote:
>they can’t collect it from you if you don’t have a refund due.
>
>
your bank account and/or your property. Just because you are not
getting a refund don't mean shit.
If the IRS was put in charge of the "fine" then they will treat it
like any other tax owed.
Remove 333 to reply.
Randy
vinny
Oct 29, 2013, 8:18:15 PM10/29/13
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I get it....
So your saying the slaves we bought were inferior due the circumstances it
took to become a slave.
So your saying the slaves we bought were inferior due the circumstances it
took to become a slave.
Gunner Asch
Oct 29, 2013, 8:29:17 PM10/29/13
to
winners, B...had smaller tribes than the winners. C..perhaps were
different in shape and ability than the winners. IE Bantu.
However they were..in inferior positions when they were captured and
sold to the Arabs and then the English.
Gunner
--
"Their mommies tell them they're special, Liberals just don't understand
that "special" is a polite euphemism for;
*window licker on the short bus*"
Lloyd E. Sponenburgh
Oct 29, 2013, 8:30:56 PM10/29/13
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"vinny" <vi...@rock.com> fired this volley in
news:l4pjag$93c$1...@speranza.aioe.org:
> I get it....
> So your saying the slaves we bought were inferior due the
> circumstances it took to become a slave.
I guess you don't. You manufacture your own incoherent words to describe
something he never said.
He said, "they were the losers in tribal wars". That is the very reason,
and no other, that they _became_ the chattel property OF THEIR VICTORS.
After that, it was up to other "buyers", but the buyers had nothing to do
with their original condition, other than provide a market for chattel
property. The buyers did not originally bind them. That they kept them
in bonds is wrong, but wasn't considered so then.
Don't twist others' words. Come up with some valid, meaningful ones
yourself.
Lloyd
news:l4pjag$93c$1...@speranza.aioe.org:
> I get it....
> So your saying the slaves we bought were inferior due the
> circumstances it took to become a slave.
something he never said.
He said, "they were the losers in tribal wars". That is the very reason,
and no other, that they _became_ the chattel property OF THEIR VICTORS.
After that, it was up to other "buyers", but the buyers had nothing to do
with their original condition, other than provide a market for chattel
property. The buyers did not originally bind them. That they kept them
in bonds is wrong, but wasn't considered so then.
Don't twist others' words. Come up with some valid, meaningful ones
yourself.
Lloyd
vinny
Oct 29, 2013, 8:45:18 PM10/29/13
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Lloyd E. Sponenburgh
Oct 29, 2013, 9:08:38 PM10/29/13
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"vinny" <vi...@rock.com> fired this volley in news:l4pkt8$c54$1
@speranza.aioe.org:
>> Don't twist others' words. Come up with some valid, meaningful ones
>> yourself.
>>
>> Lloyd
>
> SHUTTHEFUCKUPTARD.
<G> Now THAT was 'coherent', if I ever heard it! (moron!)
<G>
Lloyd
@speranza.aioe.org:
>> Don't twist others' words. Come up with some valid, meaningful ones
>> yourself.
>>
>> Lloyd
>
> SHUTTHEFUCKUPTARD.
<G>
Lloyd
Jim Wilkins
Oct 30, 2013, 8:02:56 AM10/30/13
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"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>
>>I get it....
>>So your saying the slaves we bought were inferior due the
>>circumstances it
>>took to become a slave.
>
> Nope..they were normal Africans who A. couldnt fight as well as the
> winners, B...had smaller tribes than the winners. C..perhaps were
> different in shape and ability than the winners. IE Bantu.
>
> However they were..in inferior positions when they were captured and
> sold to the Arabs and then the English.
>
> Gunner
The film "The Naked Prey" reconstructs a slave raid on a small
>>I get it....
>>So your saying the slaves we bought were inferior due the
>>circumstances it
>>took to become a slave.
>
> Nope..they were normal Africans who A. couldnt fight as well as the
> winners, B...had smaller tribes than the winners. C..perhaps were
> different in shape and ability than the winners. IE Bantu.
>
> However they were..in inferior positions when they were captured and
> sold to the Arabs and then the English.
>
> Gunner
village, while most of its men are away. The black raiders outnumber
the villagers and have Arabic-style firearms. It's not part of the
original storyline, which was based on John Colter's escape from the
Blackfeet, and appears to show considerable local South African input
of their history and methods.
In "Roots" the coastal tribe's raiders ambushed Kunta Kinte while he
was out alone.
AlDrake
Oct 30, 2013, 4:39:26 PM10/30/13
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can't, I see. That must be why you reply with babble. But when have ever
been known to actually have anything to really say?
Gunner Asch
Oct 30, 2013, 9:35:33 PM10/30/13
to
On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 16:39:26 -0400, AlDrake <AlD...@Spamex.Com>
Tsk tsk...your denial (which is not a river in Egypt) and buffoonery
continue,.... dont they?...Pity
Perhaps I was wrong..and you really are stupid.
Shrug
It would appear so.
Gunner
--
"Their mommies tell them they're special, Liberals just don't understand
that "special" is a polite euphemism for;
*window licker on the short bus*"
continue,.... dont they?...Pity
Perhaps I was wrong..and you really are stupid.
Shrug
It would appear so.
Gunner
--
"Their mommies tell them they're special, Liberals just don't understand
that "special" is a polite euphemism for;
*window licker on the short bus*"
RogerN
Oct 31, 2013, 11:11:30 PM10/31/13
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"AlDrake" wrote in message
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>On 10/27/2013 6:44 PM, RogerN wrote:
>
<snip>
the master to be the Government and the people to be their slaves. The
people that can't handle freedom need the government to be their caretaker
and caregiver. Democrats are the governments dependents, not free,
self-sufficient people. I'm not sure of what kind of drugs you are on but
the Democrat party is the party of hate and lies, Obama, Hillary, Pelosi,
Reid, Holder, Sharpton, are some of the biggest haters and liars to ever
walk the face of the Earth!
Simply put, the Democrat party is the party of women and pussified men, plus
racists, illegals, dead voters, cheats, liars, or anyone that Obama can buy
votes from using taxpayers dollars or debt.
RogerN
news:nHDbu.12503$SO1....@en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com...
>On 10/27/2013 6:44 PM, RogerN wrote:
>
>>
>> Any attempt to level all religions, and make it a matter of state policy
>> to
>> hold all in utter indifference, would have created universal
>> disapprobation,
>> if not universal indignation."
>>
>>
> So what does all this have to do with anything in this world today or
> this post? News flash. This is 2013 where we are living in the shadow of
> the criminal rightwing that got more Americans killed than all terrorist
> attacks combined. Created more terrorist and lives in fear that the
> democrats will make things right again as usual. Every republican has left
> American in dire straights and deep recession in decades and can't win
> elections today. It will be a long time before a republican will hold the
> WH again. The right. The party of hate and lies but whatever it takes?
> Right?
The Democrats still want slavery, that's what this is all about. They want
>> Any attempt to level all religions, and make it a matter of state policy
>> to
>> hold all in utter indifference, would have created universal
>> disapprobation,
>> if not universal indignation."
>>
>>
> So what does all this have to do with anything in this world today or
> this post? News flash. This is 2013 where we are living in the shadow of
> the criminal rightwing that got more Americans killed than all terrorist
> attacks combined. Created more terrorist and lives in fear that the
> democrats will make things right again as usual. Every republican has left
> American in dire straights and deep recession in decades and can't win
> elections today. It will be a long time before a republican will hold the
> WH again. The right. The party of hate and lies but whatever it takes?
> Right?
the master to be the Government and the people to be their slaves. The
people that can't handle freedom need the government to be their caretaker
and caregiver. Democrats are the governments dependents, not free,
self-sufficient people. I'm not sure of what kind of drugs you are on but
the Democrat party is the party of hate and lies, Obama, Hillary, Pelosi,
Reid, Holder, Sharpton, are some of the biggest haters and liars to ever
walk the face of the Earth!
Simply put, the Democrat party is the party of women and pussified men, plus
racists, illegals, dead voters, cheats, liars, or anyone that Obama can buy
votes from using taxpayers dollars or debt.
RogerN
AlDrake
Nov 1, 2013, 4:03:39 AM11/1/13
to
>>
>> Maybe you could point to any part of my post in incorrect? Oh, you
>> can't, I see. That must be why you reply with babble. But when have ever
>> been known to actually have anything to really say?
>
> Tsk tsk...your denial (which is not a river in Egypt) and buffoonery
> continue,.... dont they?...Pity
>
> Perhaps I was wrong..and you really are stupid.
>
> Shrug
>
> It would appear so.
>
> Gunner
>
and meaningless drivel. I was not wrong about you. I have never seen you
contribute anything to a conversation.
You still can't point to anything I stated that was wrong now can you?
AlDrake
Nov 1, 2013, 4:12:44 AM11/1/13
to
"The people that can't handle freedom"? You're simply pissed that
Obama is your leader and has been successful in bring this country back
from the brink. Once again the results of a republican destroying the
economy. Cleaning up after you guys has always been the job of the Dems.
You're a pitiful lot. You are the racists, cheats and liars.
That's why you can't win elections and why there will never be a right
wing nut in the WH.
It must really suck to be you.
RogerN
Nov 1, 2013, 6:53:53 PM11/1/13
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"AlDrake" wrote in message
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>On 10/31/2013 11:11 PM, RogerN wrote:
<snip>
you wrote like lying is wrong and here you post factual lies, what's up with
that?
The reason why moral people can't win elections is because there are more
immoral people than there are moral people, just like the Bible said would
happen in the last days.
There's room at the cross for you, there's also room in the lake of fire for
you, it's your choice.
RogerN
news:3oJcu.16247$SO1....@en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com...
>On 10/31/2013 11:11 PM, RogerN wrote:
>> Simply put, the Democrat party is the party of women and pussified men,
>> plus
>> racists, illegals, dead voters, cheats, liars, or anyone that Obama can
>> buy
>> votes from using taxpayers dollars or debt.
>>
>> RogerN
>>
>>
> I see projection is what you're made of. Slavery? Am I on the FOX forum?
>
> "The people that can't handle freedom"? You're simply pissed that Obama
> is your leader and has been successful in bring this country back from the
> brink. Once again the results of a republican destroying the economy.
> Cleaning up after you guys has always been the job of the Dems. You're a
> pitiful lot. You are the racists, cheats and liars.
>
> That's why you can't win elections and why there will never be a right
> wing nut in the WH.
>
> It must really suck to be you.
Do you believe your lies or do you know you are lying? On the previous post
>> plus
>> racists, illegals, dead voters, cheats, liars, or anyone that Obama can
>> buy
>> votes from using taxpayers dollars or debt.
>>
>> RogerN
>>
>>
> I see projection is what you're made of. Slavery? Am I on the FOX forum?
>
> "The people that can't handle freedom"? You're simply pissed that Obama
> is your leader and has been successful in bring this country back from the
> brink. Once again the results of a republican destroying the economy.
> Cleaning up after you guys has always been the job of the Dems. You're a
> pitiful lot. You are the racists, cheats and liars.
>
> That's why you can't win elections and why there will never be a right
> wing nut in the WH.
>
> It must really suck to be you.
you wrote like lying is wrong and here you post factual lies, what's up with
that?
The reason why moral people can't win elections is because there are more
immoral people than there are moral people, just like the Bible said would
happen in the last days.
There's room at the cross for you, there's also room in the lake of fire for
you, it's your choice.
RogerN
Gunner Asch
Nov 2, 2013, 6:01:51 AM11/2/13
to
On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 04:03:39 -0400, AlDrake <AlD...@Spamex.Com>
wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Maybe you could point to any part of my post in incorrect? Oh, you
>>> can't, I see. That must be why you reply with babble. But when have ever
>>> been known to actually have anything to really say?
>>
>> Tsk tsk...your denial (which is not a river in Egypt) and buffoonery
>> continue,.... dont they?...Pity
>>
>> Perhaps I was wrong..and you really are stupid.
>>
>> Shrug
>>
>> It would appear so.
>>
>> Gunner
>>
> So I fail to actually have anything. All I really have is babble
>and meaningless drivel. You were not wrong about me. No one has never seen me
I agree 100%
wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Maybe you could point to any part of my post in incorrect? Oh, you
>>> can't, I see. That must be why you reply with babble. But when have ever
>>> been known to actually have anything to really say?
>>
>> Tsk tsk...your denial (which is not a river in Egypt) and buffoonery
>> continue,.... dont they?...Pity
>>
>> Perhaps I was wrong..and you really are stupid.
>>
>> Shrug
>>
>> It would appear so.
>>
>> Gunner
>>
>and meaningless drivel. You were not wrong about me. No one has never seen me
>contribute anything to a conversation.
>
> I still can't point to anything I stated that was true now can I?
>
I agree 100%
AlDrake
Nov 3, 2013, 8:49:01 AM11/3/13
to
you reply.
Now let's keep it simple so even a rightwing nut like you can
understand. One at a time.
When was the last time a republican left office and not leave the
country recession?
Now when you can answer that directly we can move on. My guess is
you'll pull another "Gunner" and babble about something else.
Put your answer here below this line.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Gunner Asch
Nov 3, 2013, 11:46:56 AM11/3/13
to
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 08:49:01 -0500, AlDrake <AlD...@Spamex.Com>
wrote:
Ronald Reagan was the last one. Of course that was followed by Bubba
Clinton who lead the country into a recession. Then we had 8 yrs of
Bush, with 7 great years...then Democrats took control of
Congress..and put the country into the toilet.
Obama flushed and the rest is history.
You dont know much history do you?
--
"Their mommies tell them they're special, Liberals just don't understand
that "special" is a polite euphemism for;
*window licker on the short bus*"
wrote:
Clinton who lead the country into a recession. Then we had 8 yrs of
Bush, with 7 great years...then Democrats took control of
Congress..and put the country into the toilet.
Obama flushed and the rest is history.
You dont know much history do you?
--
"Their mommies tell them they're special, Liberals just don't understand
that "special" is a polite euphemism for;
*window licker on the short bus*"
RogerN
Nov 3, 2013, 12:32:52 PM11/3/13
to
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
news:5bvc79p0dh3b1j1f0...@4ax.com...
>On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 08:49:01 -0500, AlDrake <AlD...@Spamex.Com>
>wrote:
>
<snip>
then the Republican has to bring our military back up to strength.
Now we have Obama coming up with a healthcare plan that has gotten more
kicked off healthcare than what has been able to sign up.
Democrats shut down the government because Republicans say ObamaCare isn't
ready. Democrats shut down WWII memorial but launch ObamaCare on time, but
ObamaCare fails because it isn't ready, just like the Republicans told them.
Democrats spend millions on a website, it doesn't work, they blame the
traffic, lie, nowhere near the traffic of Facebook, twitter or many other
websites.
Scandal after scandal after scandal with the Obama administration and the
Obama administration doesn't know anything about anything that's going on.
So the Obama administration is either the biggest liars or most incompetent
administration in history, either way they should be kicked out and thrown
in prison.
RogerN
news:5bvc79p0dh3b1j1f0...@4ax.com...
>On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 08:49:01 -0500, AlDrake <AlD...@Spamex.Com>
>wrote:
>
>> Now when you can answer that directly we can move on. My guess is
>>you'll pull another "Gunner" and babble about something else.
>>
>>Put your answer here below this line.
>>---------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>Ronald Reagan was the last one. Of course that was followed by Bubba
>Clinton who lead the country into a recession. Then we had 8 yrs of
>Bush, with 7 great years...then Democrats took control of
>Congress..and put the country into the toilet.
>
>Obama flushed and the rest is history.
>
>You dont know much history do you?
>--
Something I noticed, get a Democrat in, they cut our military and weaken us,
>>you'll pull another "Gunner" and babble about something else.
>>
>>Put your answer here below this line.
>>---------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>Ronald Reagan was the last one. Of course that was followed by Bubba
>Clinton who lead the country into a recession. Then we had 8 yrs of
>Bush, with 7 great years...then Democrats took control of
>Congress..and put the country into the toilet.
>
>Obama flushed and the rest is history.
>
>You dont know much history do you?
>--
then the Republican has to bring our military back up to strength.
Now we have Obama coming up with a healthcare plan that has gotten more
kicked off healthcare than what has been able to sign up.
Democrats shut down the government because Republicans say ObamaCare isn't
ready. Democrats shut down WWII memorial but launch ObamaCare on time, but
ObamaCare fails because it isn't ready, just like the Republicans told them.
Democrats spend millions on a website, it doesn't work, they blame the
traffic, lie, nowhere near the traffic of Facebook, twitter or many other
websites.
Scandal after scandal after scandal with the Obama administration and the
Obama administration doesn't know anything about anything that's going on.
So the Obama administration is either the biggest liars or most incompetent
administration in history, either way they should be kicked out and thrown
in prison.
RogerN
AlDrake
Nov 4, 2013, 4:38:35 PM11/4/13
to
On 11/2/2013 6:01 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 04:03:39 -0400, AlDrake <AlD...@Spamex.Com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you could point to any part of my post in incorrect? Oh, you
>>>> can't, I see. That must be why you reply with babble. But when have ever
>>>> been known to actually have anything to really say?
>>>
>>> Tsk tsk...your denial (which is not a river in Egypt) and buffoonery
>>> continue,.... dont they?...Pity
>>>
>>> Perhaps I was wrong..and you really are stupid.
>>>
>>> Shrug
>>>
>>> It would appear so.
>>>
>>> Gunner
>>>
>> So I fail to actually have anything. All I really have is babble
>> and meaningless drivel. You were not wrong about me. No one has never seen me
>> contribute anything to a conversation.
>>
>> You still can't point to anything I stated that was true now can I?
> On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 04:03:39 -0400, AlDrake <AlD...@Spamex.Com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you could point to any part of my post in incorrect? Oh, you
>>>> can't, I see. That must be why you reply with babble. But when have ever
>>>> been known to actually have anything to really say?
>>>
>>> Tsk tsk...your denial (which is not a river in Egypt) and buffoonery
>>> continue,.... dont they?...Pity
>>>
>>> Perhaps I was wrong..and you really are stupid.
>>>
>>> Shrug
>>>
>>> It would appear so.
>>>
>>> Gunner
>>>
>> So I fail to actually have anything. All I really have is babble
>> and meaningless drivel. You were not wrong about me. No one has never seen me
>> contribute anything to a conversation.
>>
>
>
> I sure am one stupid moron
>
> Gunner
>
Yes, you sure are. I'm glad you finally admit it.
AlDrake
Nov 4, 2013, 4:42:45 PM11/4/13
to
History shows that the U.S. economy, stock prices and corporate
profits have generated stronger growth under Democratic administrations
than Republican ones.
http://www.foxbusiness.com/investing/2012/09/04/history-shows-markets-gdp-outperform-under-democrats/
RogerN
Nov 4, 2013, 7:59:08 PM11/4/13
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"AlDrake" wrote in message
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>On 11/3/2013 11:46 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
<snip>
all his firsts?
. First President to Violate the War Powers Act (Unilaterally Executing
American Military Operations in Libya Without Informing Congress In the
Required Time Period - Source: Huffington Post)
. First President to Triple the Number of Warrantless Wiretaps of U.S.
Citizens (Source: ACLU)
. First President to Sign into Law a Bill That Permits the Government to
"Hold Anyone Suspected of Being Associated With Terrorism Indefinitely,
Without Any Form of Due Process. No Indictment. No Judge or Jury. No
Evidence. No Trial. Just an Indefinite Jail Sentence" (NDAA Bill - Source:
Business Insider)
. First President to Refuse to Tell the Public What He Did For Eight (8)
Hours After Being Informed That a U.S. Ambassador Was Facing Imminent Death
During a Terror Attack (Source: Mediate)
. First President to Lie About the Reason For an Ambassador's Death, Blaming
it on an Internet Video Rather Than What He Knew to be the Case: the Al
Qaeda-linked Terror Group Ansar al-Sharia (Source: House Oversight
Committee, et. al.)
. First President to Have an Innocent Filmmaker Thrown in Jail After Lying
About the Cause for a Deadly Attack on U.S. Diplomats, Using the Filmmaker
as a Scapegoat (Source: CNN)
. First President to Use the IRS to "Unfairly Target Political Enemies" as
Well as Jewish Groups (Source: Sen. Ted Cruz)
. First President to Unlawfully Seize Telephone Records of More than 100
Reporters to Intimidate and/or Bully Them (Source: Associated Press)
. First President to Witness a Single Cabinet Secretary Commit Multiple
Hatch Act Violations Without Acting, Speaking Out, Disciplining or Firing
That Person (Source: New York Times)
. First President to Have His Attorney General Held in Criminal Contempt of
Congress For His Efforts to Cover Up Operation Fast and Furious, That Killed
Over 300 Individuals (Source: Politico)
. First President to claim Executive Privilege to shield a sitting Attorney
General from a Contempt of Congress finding for perjury and withholding
evidence from lawful subpoenas (Source: Business Insider)
. First President to Issue Unlawful "Recess-Appointments" Over a Long
Weekend -- While the U.S. Senate Remained in Session (against the advice of
his own Justice Department - Source: United States Court of Appeals)
. First President to Fire an Inspector General of Americorps for Catching
One of His Friends in a Corruption Case (Source: Gawker)
. First President to "Order a Secret Amnesty Program that Stopped the
Deportations of Illegal Immigrants Across the U.S., Including Those With
Criminal Convictions" (Source: DHS documents uncovered by Judicial Watch)
. First President to Sue States for Enforcing Voter ID Requirements, Which
Were Previously Ruled Legal by the U.S. Supreme Court (Source: CNN)
. First President to Encourage Racial Discrimination and Intimidation at
Polling Places (the New Black Panthers voter intimidation case, Source:
Investors Business Daily)
. First President to Refuse to Comply With a House Oversight Committee
Subpoena (Source: Heritage Foundation)
. First President to Arbitrarily Declare an Existing Law Unconstitutional
and Refuse to Enforce It (Defense of Marriage Act - Source: ABC News)
. First President to Increase Surveillance of American Citizen Under the
Patriot Act by 1,000 Percent in Four Years (Source: NBC News)
. First President to Demand a Company Hand Over $20 Billion to One of His
Political Appointees (BP Oil Spill Relief Fund - Source: Fox News)
. First President to Have a Law Signed By an 'Auto-pen' Without Being
"Present" (Source: The New York Times)
Scandals
. First President to publicly announce an enemies list (consisting of his
opponents campaign contributors; and to use the instrumentalities of
government to punish those on the list - Source: Heritage Foundation)
. First President to Attempt to Block Legally-Required 60-Day Layoff Notices
by Government Contractors Due to His Own Cuts to Defense Spending -- Because
The Notices Would Occur Before the Election. (Source: National Journal)
. First President to Intentionally Disable Credit Card Security Measures (in
order to allow over-the-limit donations, foreign contributions and other
illegal fundraising measures - Source: Power Line)
. First President to send 80 percent of a $16 billion program (green energy)
to his campaign bundlers and contributors, leaving only 20% to those who did
not contribute. (Source: Washington Examiner)
. First President to Propose an Executive Order Demanding Companies Disclose
Their Political Contributions to Bid on Government Contracts (Source: Wall
Street Journal)
. First President to issue an Executive Order implementing a "Racial Justice
System", a system that tries to achieve "racially equivalent outcomes" for
crimes (Source: Daily Caller)
. First President to Leak Confidential IRS Tax Records to Groups Aligned
Politically With Him for Partisan Advantage (Source: The Hill Newspaper)
. First President to Use the EPA to Punish Political Enemies and Reward
Political Allies (Source: Competitive Enterprise Institute)
. First President to Send Millions in Taxpayer Dollars to His Wife's Former
Employer (Source: White House Dossier)
. First President to Have His Administration Fund an Organization Tied to
the Cop-Killing Terrorist Group, the Weather Underground (Source: National
Review)
Economy
. First President to Preside Over a Cut to the Credit Rating of the United
States Government (Source: Reuters)
. First President to Bypass Congress and Implement the DREAM Act Through
Executive Fiat (Source: Christian Science Monitor)
. First President to Move America Past the Dependency Tipping Point, In
Which 51% of Households Now Pay No Income Taxes (Source: Center for
Individual Freedom)
. First President to Increase Food Stamp Spending By More Than 100% in Less
Than Four Years (Source: Sen. Jeff Sessions)
. First President to Spend a Trillion Dollars on 'Shovel-Ready' Jobs -- and
Later Admit There Was No Such Thing as Shovel-Ready Jobs (Source: President
Obama during an early meeting of his 'Jobs Council')
. First President to Threaten Insurance Companies After They Publicly Spoke
out on How Obamacare Helped Cause their Rate Increases (Source: The Hill)
. First President to Abrogate Bankruptcy Law to Turn Over Control of
Companies to His Union Supporters (Source: Wall Street Journal)
. First President to Propose Budgets So Unreasonable That Not a Single
Representative From Either Party Would Cast a Vote in Favor (Sources: The
Hill, Open Market)
. First President Whose Economic Policies Have the Number of Americans on
Disability Exceed the Population of New York (Source: CNS News)
. First President to Sign a Law Requiring All Americans to Purchase a
Product From a Third Party (Source: Wall Street Journal)
. First President to Sue States For Enforcing Immigration Laws Passed by
Congress (Source: The Arizona Republic newspaper)
. First President to See America Lose Its Status as the World's Largest
Economy (Source: Peterson Institute)
. First President to redistribute $26.5 billion of the taxpayers' funds to
his union supporters in the UAW (Source: Heritage Foundation)
. First President to Threaten an Auto Company (Ford) After It Publicly
Mocked Bailouts of GM and Chrysler (Source: Detroit News)
. First President to Attempt to Bully a Major Manufacturing Company Into Not
Opening a Factory in a Right-to-Work State (Boeing's facility in South
Carolina - Source: Wall Street Journal)
Energy Policy
. First President to Endanger the Stability of the Electric Grid by Shutting
Down Hundreds of Coal-Fired Plants Without Adequate Replacement Technologies
(Source: National Electric Reliability Corporation - PDF)
. First President to Have His EPA Repudiated by a Federal Judge for
"Overstepping Its Powers" When They Attempted to Shut Down Coal Operations
in Appalachia (Source: Huffington Post)
. First President to be Held in Contempt of Court for Illegally Obstructing
Oil Drilling in the Gulf of Mexico (Source: Politico)
National Security and World Affairs
. First President to Lie Repeatedly to the American People About the Murder
of a U.S. Ambassador and Three Other Diplomatic Personnel for Purely
Political Reasons, Rewriting a "Talking Points" Memo No Fewer Than a Dozen
Times to Avoid Referencing a Pre-Planned Terror Attack (Source: ABC News)
. First President to Openly Defy a Congressional Order Not To Share
Sensitive Nuclear Defense Secrets With the Russian Government (Sources: ABC
News, Rep. Michael Turner)
. First President to Leak Highly Classified Military and Intelligence
Secrets to Hollywood In Order to Promote a Movie That Could Help His
Reelection Campaign (Source: Judicial Watch)
. First President to Terminate America's Ability to Put a Man into Space
(Sources: USA Today, ABC News)
. First President to press for a "treaty giving a U.N. body veto power over
the use of our territorial waters and rights to half of all offshore oil
revenue" (The Law Of The Sea Treaty, Source: Investors Business Daily)
. First President to send $200 million to a terrorist organization (Hamas)
after Congress had explicitly frozen the money for fear it would fund
attacks against civilians (Sources: American Thinker, The Independent [UK])
Miscellania
. First President to Insert Himself into White House Biographies of Past
Presidents (Source: The New York Times).
. First President to Golf 122 or More Times in His First Four-and-a-half
Years in Office (Source: White House Dossier)
But remember: he will not rest until all Americans have jobs, affordable
homes, green-energy vehicles, and the environment is repaired, etc., etc.,
etc.
news:rxUdu.14739$UA3....@en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com...
>On 11/3/2013 11:46 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>
>> Obama flushed and the rest is history.
>>
>> You dont know much history do you?
>>
> I know facts not fantasy.
>
>
> History shows that the U.S. economy, stock prices and corporate profits
> have generated stronger growth under Democratic administrations than
> Republican ones.
>
>http://www.foxbusiness.com/investing/2012/09/04/history-shows-markets-gdp-outperform-under-democrats/
>
And then there's Obama, why do Democrats like the idiot? Maybe because of
>> Obama flushed and the rest is history.
>>
>> You dont know much history do you?
>>
> I know facts not fantasy.
>
>
> History shows that the U.S. economy, stock prices and corporate profits
> have generated stronger growth under Democratic administrations than
> Republican ones.
>
>http://www.foxbusiness.com/investing/2012/09/04/history-shows-markets-gdp-outperform-under-democrats/
>
all his firsts?
. First President to Violate the War Powers Act (Unilaterally Executing
American Military Operations in Libya Without Informing Congress In the
Required Time Period - Source: Huffington Post)
. First President to Triple the Number of Warrantless Wiretaps of U.S.
Citizens (Source: ACLU)
. First President to Sign into Law a Bill That Permits the Government to
"Hold Anyone Suspected of Being Associated With Terrorism Indefinitely,
Without Any Form of Due Process. No Indictment. No Judge or Jury. No
Evidence. No Trial. Just an Indefinite Jail Sentence" (NDAA Bill - Source:
Business Insider)
. First President to Refuse to Tell the Public What He Did For Eight (8)
Hours After Being Informed That a U.S. Ambassador Was Facing Imminent Death
During a Terror Attack (Source: Mediate)
. First President to Lie About the Reason For an Ambassador's Death, Blaming
it on an Internet Video Rather Than What He Knew to be the Case: the Al
Qaeda-linked Terror Group Ansar al-Sharia (Source: House Oversight
Committee, et. al.)
. First President to Have an Innocent Filmmaker Thrown in Jail After Lying
About the Cause for a Deadly Attack on U.S. Diplomats, Using the Filmmaker
as a Scapegoat (Source: CNN)
. First President to Use the IRS to "Unfairly Target Political Enemies" as
Well as Jewish Groups (Source: Sen. Ted Cruz)
. First President to Unlawfully Seize Telephone Records of More than 100
Reporters to Intimidate and/or Bully Them (Source: Associated Press)
. First President to Witness a Single Cabinet Secretary Commit Multiple
Hatch Act Violations Without Acting, Speaking Out, Disciplining or Firing
That Person (Source: New York Times)
. First President to Have His Attorney General Held in Criminal Contempt of
Congress For His Efforts to Cover Up Operation Fast and Furious, That Killed
Over 300 Individuals (Source: Politico)
. First President to claim Executive Privilege to shield a sitting Attorney
General from a Contempt of Congress finding for perjury and withholding
evidence from lawful subpoenas (Source: Business Insider)
. First President to Issue Unlawful "Recess-Appointments" Over a Long
Weekend -- While the U.S. Senate Remained in Session (against the advice of
his own Justice Department - Source: United States Court of Appeals)
. First President to Fire an Inspector General of Americorps for Catching
One of His Friends in a Corruption Case (Source: Gawker)
. First President to "Order a Secret Amnesty Program that Stopped the
Deportations of Illegal Immigrants Across the U.S., Including Those With
Criminal Convictions" (Source: DHS documents uncovered by Judicial Watch)
. First President to Sue States for Enforcing Voter ID Requirements, Which
Were Previously Ruled Legal by the U.S. Supreme Court (Source: CNN)
. First President to Encourage Racial Discrimination and Intimidation at
Polling Places (the New Black Panthers voter intimidation case, Source:
Investors Business Daily)
. First President to Refuse to Comply With a House Oversight Committee
Subpoena (Source: Heritage Foundation)
. First President to Arbitrarily Declare an Existing Law Unconstitutional
and Refuse to Enforce It (Defense of Marriage Act - Source: ABC News)
. First President to Increase Surveillance of American Citizen Under the
Patriot Act by 1,000 Percent in Four Years (Source: NBC News)
. First President to Demand a Company Hand Over $20 Billion to One of His
Political Appointees (BP Oil Spill Relief Fund - Source: Fox News)
. First President to Have a Law Signed By an 'Auto-pen' Without Being
"Present" (Source: The New York Times)
Scandals
. First President to publicly announce an enemies list (consisting of his
opponents campaign contributors; and to use the instrumentalities of
government to punish those on the list - Source: Heritage Foundation)
. First President to Attempt to Block Legally-Required 60-Day Layoff Notices
by Government Contractors Due to His Own Cuts to Defense Spending -- Because
The Notices Would Occur Before the Election. (Source: National Journal)
. First President to Intentionally Disable Credit Card Security Measures (in
order to allow over-the-limit donations, foreign contributions and other
illegal fundraising measures - Source: Power Line)
. First President to send 80 percent of a $16 billion program (green energy)
to his campaign bundlers and contributors, leaving only 20% to those who did
not contribute. (Source: Washington Examiner)
. First President to Propose an Executive Order Demanding Companies Disclose
Their Political Contributions to Bid on Government Contracts (Source: Wall
Street Journal)
. First President to issue an Executive Order implementing a "Racial Justice
System", a system that tries to achieve "racially equivalent outcomes" for
crimes (Source: Daily Caller)
. First President to Leak Confidential IRS Tax Records to Groups Aligned
Politically With Him for Partisan Advantage (Source: The Hill Newspaper)
. First President to Use the EPA to Punish Political Enemies and Reward
Political Allies (Source: Competitive Enterprise Institute)
. First President to Send Millions in Taxpayer Dollars to His Wife's Former
Employer (Source: White House Dossier)
. First President to Have His Administration Fund an Organization Tied to
the Cop-Killing Terrorist Group, the Weather Underground (Source: National
Review)
Economy
. First President to Preside Over a Cut to the Credit Rating of the United
States Government (Source: Reuters)
. First President to Bypass Congress and Implement the DREAM Act Through
Executive Fiat (Source: Christian Science Monitor)
. First President to Move America Past the Dependency Tipping Point, In
Which 51% of Households Now Pay No Income Taxes (Source: Center for
Individual Freedom)
. First President to Increase Food Stamp Spending By More Than 100% in Less
Than Four Years (Source: Sen. Jeff Sessions)
. First President to Spend a Trillion Dollars on 'Shovel-Ready' Jobs -- and
Later Admit There Was No Such Thing as Shovel-Ready Jobs (Source: President
Obama during an early meeting of his 'Jobs Council')
. First President to Threaten Insurance Companies After They Publicly Spoke
out on How Obamacare Helped Cause their Rate Increases (Source: The Hill)
. First President to Abrogate Bankruptcy Law to Turn Over Control of
Companies to His Union Supporters (Source: Wall Street Journal)
. First President to Propose Budgets So Unreasonable That Not a Single
Representative From Either Party Would Cast a Vote in Favor (Sources: The
Hill, Open Market)
. First President Whose Economic Policies Have the Number of Americans on
Disability Exceed the Population of New York (Source: CNS News)
. First President to Sign a Law Requiring All Americans to Purchase a
Product From a Third Party (Source: Wall Street Journal)
. First President to Sue States For Enforcing Immigration Laws Passed by
Congress (Source: The Arizona Republic newspaper)
. First President to See America Lose Its Status as the World's Largest
Economy (Source: Peterson Institute)
. First President to redistribute $26.5 billion of the taxpayers' funds to
his union supporters in the UAW (Source: Heritage Foundation)
. First President to Threaten an Auto Company (Ford) After It Publicly
Mocked Bailouts of GM and Chrysler (Source: Detroit News)
. First President to Attempt to Bully a Major Manufacturing Company Into Not
Opening a Factory in a Right-to-Work State (Boeing's facility in South
Carolina - Source: Wall Street Journal)
Energy Policy
. First President to Endanger the Stability of the Electric Grid by Shutting
Down Hundreds of Coal-Fired Plants Without Adequate Replacement Technologies
(Source: National Electric Reliability Corporation - PDF)
. First President to Have His EPA Repudiated by a Federal Judge for
"Overstepping Its Powers" When They Attempted to Shut Down Coal Operations
in Appalachia (Source: Huffington Post)
. First President to be Held in Contempt of Court for Illegally Obstructing
Oil Drilling in the Gulf of Mexico (Source: Politico)
National Security and World Affairs
. First President to Lie Repeatedly to the American People About the Murder
of a U.S. Ambassador and Three Other Diplomatic Personnel for Purely
Political Reasons, Rewriting a "Talking Points" Memo No Fewer Than a Dozen
Times to Avoid Referencing a Pre-Planned Terror Attack (Source: ABC News)
. First President to Openly Defy a Congressional Order Not To Share
Sensitive Nuclear Defense Secrets With the Russian Government (Sources: ABC
News, Rep. Michael Turner)
. First President to Leak Highly Classified Military and Intelligence
Secrets to Hollywood In Order to Promote a Movie That Could Help His
Reelection Campaign (Source: Judicial Watch)
. First President to Terminate America's Ability to Put a Man into Space
(Sources: USA Today, ABC News)
. First President to press for a "treaty giving a U.N. body veto power over
the use of our territorial waters and rights to half of all offshore oil
revenue" (The Law Of The Sea Treaty, Source: Investors Business Daily)
. First President to send $200 million to a terrorist organization (Hamas)
after Congress had explicitly frozen the money for fear it would fund
attacks against civilians (Sources: American Thinker, The Independent [UK])
Miscellania
. First President to Insert Himself into White House Biographies of Past
Presidents (Source: The New York Times).
. First President to Golf 122 or More Times in His First Four-and-a-half
Years in Office (Source: White House Dossier)
But remember: he will not rest until all Americans have jobs, affordable
homes, green-energy vehicles, and the environment is repaired, etc., etc.,
etc.
Gunner Asch
Nov 4, 2013, 10:07:44 PM11/4/13
to
On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 16:42:45 -0500, AlDrake <AlD...@Spamex.Com>
wrote:
>
> History shows that the U.S. economy, stock prices and corporate
>profits have generated stronger growth under Democratic administrations
>than Republican ones.
Odd...Clinton...Obama....those seem to be rather interesting
refutations of your claims
Snort.
Idiots like you will not be around all that much longer.
Got Rope?
wrote:
>
> History shows that the U.S. economy, stock prices and corporate
>profits have generated stronger growth under Democratic administrations
>than Republican ones.
refutations of your claims
Snort.
Idiots like you will not be around all that much longer.
Got Rope?
Gunner Asch
Nov 4, 2013, 10:08:27 PM11/4/13
to
Gunner Asch
Nov 4, 2013, 10:10:04 PM11/4/13
to
On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 16:38:35 -0500, AlDrake <AlD...@Spamex.Com>
wrote:
>On 11/2/2013 6:01 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>> On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 04:03:39 -0400, AlDrake <AlD...@Spamex.Com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe you could point to any part of my post in incorrect? Oh, you
>>>>> can't, I see. That must be why you reply with babble. But when have ever
>>>>> been known to actually have anything to really say?
>>>>
>>>> Tsk tsk...your denial (which is not a river in Egypt) and buffoonery
>>>> continue,.... dont they?...Pity
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps I was wrong..and you really are stupid.
>>>>
>>>> Shrug
>>>>
>>>> It would appear so.
>>>>
>>>> Gunner
>>>>
>>> So I fail to actually have anything. All I really have is babble
>>> and meaningless drivel. You were not wrong about me. No one has never seen me
>>> contribute anything to a conversation.
>>>
>>> You still can't point to anything I stated that was true now can I?
>>
>>
>>You are one stupid moron
>>
>> Gunner
>>
>
> Yes, I sure am. I'm glad I can finally admit it.
>
Who was stopping you?
wrote:
>On 11/2/2013 6:01 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>> On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 04:03:39 -0400, AlDrake <AlD...@Spamex.Com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe you could point to any part of my post in incorrect? Oh, you
>>>>> can't, I see. That must be why you reply with babble. But when have ever
>>>>> been known to actually have anything to really say?
>>>>
>>>> Tsk tsk...your denial (which is not a river in Egypt) and buffoonery
>>>> continue,.... dont they?...Pity
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps I was wrong..and you really are stupid.
>>>>
>>>> Shrug
>>>>
>>>> It would appear so.
>>>>
>>>> Gunner
>>>>
>>> So I fail to actually have anything. All I really have is babble
>>> and meaningless drivel. You were not wrong about me. No one has never seen me
>>> contribute anything to a conversation.
>>>
>>> You still can't point to anything I stated that was true now can I?
>>
>>
>>
>> Gunner
>>
>
> Yes, I sure am. I'm glad I can finally admit it.
>
Who was stopping you?
AlDrake
Nov 13, 2013, 4:30:17 PM11/13/13
to
that. All the people care about is themselves and their jobs, the
economy and their future. It is hilarious that after the previous
administration brought us into two wars for nothing but lies and
destroyed the economy which is now on the mend because of your present
leader, that you can't even see the difference.
Like I posted, the right has done nothing to help America but create
more terrorists and rob the working class from what little they have
left. The right has brought on more recessions and those facts will
never change.
Put a man in space............Whahahaha..............it must suck
being you.
AlDrake
Nov 13, 2013, 4:32:49 PM11/13/13
to
On 11/4/2013 7:59 PM, RogerN wrote:
rightTard fools have no one, now do you?
AlDrake
Nov 14, 2013, 4:38:16 PM11/14/13
to
because of Obmama. He had killed more terrorists than any rightWing Nut.
The right is continually weakening the US. Bush let Bin Laden go free
and Obama killed him. Bush admitted he didn't care.
You have nothing but lies. Obama care hasn't even begun fool.
Republicans shut down the government they even admit doing so.
Cruz admitted shutting down the government.
Fox News host Chris Wallace interviewed Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) at The
Atlantic�s Washington Ideas Forum on Thursday, and the senator gave the
crowd a laugh when he claimed he never wanted a government shutdown.
�That ignores who I think was responsible for the shutdown,� Cruz said.
�I didn�t want a shutdown. Throughout the whole thing, I said we
shouldn�t have a shutdown.�
Can you read Tard? Cruz said "We shouldn�t have a shutdown.�
Man you are one dumb shut, aren't you?
Wahahaha..................
http://www.salon.com/2013/11/14/audience_laughs_at_ted_cruz_for_saying_he_didnt_want_a_shutdown/
�Let me be very clear, I said throughout this, we shouldn't have a
shutdown,� Cruz said.
http://acid1.oa.yahoo.com/w/legobpengine/news/blogs/power-players-abc-news/ted-cruz-faults-his-party-for-agreeing-to-lousy-deal-to-reopen-the-government-211727075.html?.b=blogs%2F%3F.b%3Dtyson%252dbook%252dundisputed%252dthug%252d170048147.html%253f.b%253d%252fmedia%252flegobp%252f&.cf3=all+blogs&.cf4=1&.cf5=Power+Players&.cf6=%2Fblogs%2F&.h=Blogs&.ts=1382330272&.intl=US&.lang=en&.ysid=a_2Q5_AewnPyLnifLXdM.ZRD
You are the biggest loser on the internet right about now.
Poor boy.
RogerN
Nov 15, 2013, 6:43:36 PM11/15/13
to
"AlDrake" wrote in message
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<snip>
Sorry for the delayed response Mr Daffy Duck!
> You are posting from a loony bin. America is not weak but stronger
> because of Obmama. He had killed more terrorists than any rightWing Nut.
Who is Obmama? Is he yo mama?
> The right is continually weakening the US. Bush let Bin Laden go free and
> Obama killed him. Bush admitted he didn't care.
Is that why your kind blame Republicans for too much military spending. A
well equipped military makes us weak? Osama was one man and it's not worth
great expense to single him out as it is to weaken those who carry out his
deeds of evil. Obama only allowed actions of Bush to continue, Bush was
eventually successful but Obama was their to take the credit for what he had
nothing to do with, typical of liberals.
> You have nothing but lies. Obama care hasn't even begun fool.
He's on his 2nd term and hasn't begun? When is he planning to start? How
about this ObamaCare, for every 1 person that has attempted to sign on, 100
people have lost their coverage. Anyway, he's been president for 5 years,
isn't it about time for him to begin?
> Republicans shut down the government they even admit doing so.
>
> Cruz admitted shutting down the government.
It certainly was a waste, ObamaCare delayed itself thanks to the moron
president and his moron voters.
>Fox News host Chris Wallace interviewed Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) at The
>Atlantic‘s Washington Ideas Forum on Thursday, and the senator gave the
>didn’t want a shutdown. Throughout the whole thing, I said we shouldn’t
>have a shutdown.”
>
>Can you read Tard? Cruz said "We shouldn’t have a shutdown.”
Hey tard, saying "Shouldn't have a shutdown" is not the same as "We
shouldn't have shutdown", but I figure a daffy duck like you wouldn't have
enough intelligence to know the difference. That's why the rednecks of Duck
Dynasty enjoy killing ducks as stupid as you!
> Man you are one dumb shut, aren't you?
>
>Wahahaha..................
I found a picture of you on the internet!:
https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q71/1394123_389254577872043_152499831_n.jpg
I agree with Obama, do you?
https://scontent-b-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/q71/1235273_240663086088494_1670864395_n.jpg
I found a perfect place for you to live!
https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/q71/1470391_10202617773429633_1910261178_n.jpg
Here's your leaders ID card!
https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/q71/1470391_10202617773429633_1910261178_n.jpg
And here's your from of government!
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Even Daffy Duck wasn't as daffy as Al Drake!
RogerN
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<snip>
Sorry for the delayed response Mr Daffy Duck!
> You are posting from a loony bin. America is not weak but stronger
> because of Obmama. He had killed more terrorists than any rightWing Nut.
> The right is continually weakening the US. Bush let Bin Laden go free and
> Obama killed him. Bush admitted he didn't care.
well equipped military makes us weak? Osama was one man and it's not worth
great expense to single him out as it is to weaken those who carry out his
deeds of evil. Obama only allowed actions of Bush to continue, Bush was
eventually successful but Obama was their to take the credit for what he had
nothing to do with, typical of liberals.
> You have nothing but lies. Obama care hasn't even begun fool.
about this ObamaCare, for every 1 person that has attempted to sign on, 100
people have lost their coverage. Anyway, he's been president for 5 years,
isn't it about time for him to begin?
> Republicans shut down the government they even admit doing so.
>
> Cruz admitted shutting down the government.
president and his moron voters.
>Fox News host Chris Wallace interviewed Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) at The
>crowd a laugh when he claimed he never wanted a government shutdown.
>
>“That ignores who I think was responsible for the shutdown,” Cruz said. “I
>
>didn’t want a shutdown. Throughout the whole thing, I said we shouldn’t
>have a shutdown.”
>
>Can you read Tard? Cruz said "We shouldn’t have a shutdown.”
Hey tard, saying "Shouldn't have a shutdown" is not the same as "We
shouldn't have shutdown", but I figure a daffy duck like you wouldn't have
enough intelligence to know the difference. That's why the rednecks of Duck
Dynasty enjoy killing ducks as stupid as you!
> Man you are one dumb shut, aren't you?
>
>Wahahaha..................
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I agree with Obama, do you?
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I found a perfect place for you to live!
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Here's your leaders ID card!
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And here's your from of government!
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Even Daffy Duck wasn't as daffy as Al Drake!
RogerN
RogerN
Nov 15, 2013, 8:36:26 PM11/15/13
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"AlDrake" wrote in message
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Daffy Duck quacked...
> Cruz admitted shutting down the government.
>
>Fox News host Chris Wallace interviewed Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) at The
>Atlantic�s Washington Ideas Forum on Thursday, and the senator gave the
>didn�t want a shutdown. Throughout the whole thing, I said we shouldn�t
>have a shutdown.�
>
>Can you read Tard? Cruz said "We shouldn�t have a shutdown.�
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Tea Party said ObamaCare wasn't ready, house voted to fund government and
defund ObamaCare. Obama and the Dimmer-than-crap shut down the government
but attempted to keep ObamaCare on time. Can you say epic FAIL? Ha Ha Ha
HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!
Thank you Obama and stupid Dim-O-Craps for proving the Tea Party was right
and the rest are MORONS MORONS MORONS!!!!
RogerN
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Daffy Duck quacked...
> Cruz admitted shutting down the government.
>
>Fox News host Chris Wallace interviewed Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) at The
>crowd a laugh when he claimed he never wanted a government shutdown.
>
>�That ignores who I think was responsible for the shutdown,� Cruz said. �I
>
>didn�t want a shutdown. Throughout the whole thing, I said we shouldn�t
>have a shutdown.�
>
>Can you read Tard? Cruz said "We shouldn�t have a shutdown.�
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Tea Party said ObamaCare wasn't ready, house voted to fund government and
defund ObamaCare. Obama and the Dimmer-than-crap shut down the government
but attempted to keep ObamaCare on time. Can you say epic FAIL? Ha Ha Ha
HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!
Thank you Obama and stupid Dim-O-Craps for proving the Tea Party was right
and the rest are MORONS MORONS MORONS!!!!
RogerN
Randy333
Nov 18, 2013, 4:57:19 PM11/18/13
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Weird not a single reply to a serious statement.
On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 18:35:26 -0400, Randy333 <rbra...@enter.net>
wrote:
>On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 20:52:48 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>they can’t collect it from you if you don’t have a refund due.
>>
>>
>
>If the IRS says you owe taxes, then you owe taxes. They can seize
>your bank account and/or your property. Just because you are not
>getting a refund don't mean shit.
>
>If the IRS was put in charge of the "fine" then they will treat it
>like any other tax owed.
>
>Remove 333 to reply.
>Randy
Remove 333 to reply.
Randy
On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 18:35:26 -0400, Randy333 <rbra...@enter.net>
wrote:
>On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 20:52:48 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>they can’t collect it from you if you don’t have a refund due.
>>
>>
>
>If the IRS says you owe taxes, then you owe taxes. They can seize
>your bank account and/or your property. Just because you are not
>getting a refund don't mean shit.
>
>If the IRS was put in charge of the "fine" then they will treat it
>like any other tax owed.
>
>Remove 333 to reply.
>Randy
Remove 333 to reply.
Randy
Gunner Asch
Nov 18, 2013, 5:02:58 PM11/18/13
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On Mon, 18 Nov 2013 16:57:19 -0500, Randy333 <rbra...@enter.net>
wrote:
>Weird not a single reply to a serious statement.
Who can argue with the truth?
__
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet,
balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying,
take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations,
analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer,
cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Heinlein
wrote:
>Weird not a single reply to a serious statement.
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet,
balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying,
take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations,
analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer,
cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
- Heinlein
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