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Bob Engelhardt

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Feb 22, 2010, 12:05:09 PM2/22/10
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3 - .34 oz bottles. "Use by" date - 6/06, but still works for me.

Reply to my email, 1 per "customer".

Bob

Bob Engelhardt

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Feb 25, 2010, 8:54:21 PM2/25/10
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Bob Engelhardt wrote:
> 3 - .34 oz bottles. "Use by" date - 6/06, but still works for me.
>
> Reply to my email, 1 per "customer".

Still 2 left - does nobody else want one? Postage is on me (it only
takes a 1st class stamp).

Now, about this stuff: I used it on the bearing that I used on my motor
test & I'd like to get the bearing off. I can't find out how to do
that. loctite.com is no help, although it does say that 609 is
"Recommended for parts that will need subsequent dismantling". I
remember reading that heat is used, but not how much. Too much would
ruin the sealed bearing, I think.

Thanks,
Bob

Bob Engelhardt

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Feb 25, 2010, 9:04:44 PM2/25/10
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Never mind - I found it: dismantle with press or puller.

Bob

Bob Engelhardt

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Feb 26, 2010, 8:54:53 AM2/26/10
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They're all taken. BTW - I had email from someone who said that he has
a 10 year old bottle of this stuff, so the 6/06 use-by is not something
to be concerned about.

Bob

Wes

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Feb 26, 2010, 7:17:00 PM2/26/10
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Bob Engelhardt <bobeng...@comcast.net> wrote:


Darn. Too late. I *think* this is the stuff that is often used to seat barrel liners in
firearms. I've soldered in a couple liners now. Looking forward to 10 more in a
gatlinggun build. The plus for 609 is it is easy. The minus is that if I solder I can
leave a bit of liner proud of the barrel tubing incase I blow cutting a chamber. Not so
sure how you move a liner in 609 if I screw up.

Wes
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DoN. Nichols

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Feb 26, 2010, 11:44:31 PM2/26/10
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We had a Loctite representative come give a talk to our local
metalworking club, and the question of expiration dates came up.

His answer?

"GSA (Government Supply Agency) which buys and stockpiles things
for all kinds of government agencies -- including the Army lab
where I used to work -- *requires* an expiration date for their
stocking policies. When it expires, the stock is sent back to
Loctite, where it is tested and passes, is repackaged, and sent
back to GSA (at a discount) with new expiration dates."

It is kind of like requiring an expiration date on water. :-)

So -- don't worry about the expiration date. As long as you
don't fill the bottle too full (it needs some air in the bottle to keep
it from setting up) it will last forever.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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Bob Engelhardt

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Feb 27, 2010, 8:13:36 AM2/27/10
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DoN. Nichols wrote:
> ...

> So -- don't worry about the expiration date. As long as you
> don't fill the bottle too full (it needs some air in the bottle to keep
> it from setting up) it will last forever.

Thank you - that is good to know! At the rate that I use it, it will be
forever before it's finished. It only takes a drop & it's not that
often that I need to use it.

Bob

Pete Keillor

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Feb 27, 2010, 8:31:49 AM2/27/10
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Loctite is packaged in small cross section polyethylene bottles. The
oxygen permeability is high enough to keep it from setting up. Put it
in an airtight container, and it's done. It sets up in threads due to
the long, tight diffusion path for oxygen.

Pete Keillor

Bruce L. Bergman

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Feb 27, 2010, 7:55:18 PM2/27/10
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On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 07:31:49 -0600, Pete Keillor
<keill...@chartermi.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 08:13:36 -0500, Bob Engelhardt
><bobeng...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>DoN. Nichols wrote:

>>> So -- don't worry about the expiration date. As long as you
>>> don't fill the bottle too full (it needs some air in the bottle to keep
>>> it from setting up) it will last forever.
>>
>>Thank you - that is good to know! At the rate that I use it, it will be
>>forever before it's finished. It only takes a drop & it's not that
>>often that I need to use it.
>

>Loctite is packaged in small cross section polyethylene bottles. The
>oxygen permeability is high enough to keep it from setting up. Put it
>in an airtight container, and it's done. It sets up in threads due to
>the long, tight diffusion path for oxygen.

Is this a "Refrigerate is good", " Freezer is even better!" or a
Refrigerate is BAD!" product?

(You try to get the manufacturers trained to put this stuff on the
bottle, but they rarely do.)

My default guess would be to refrigerate - right next to the
stockpiled last 4 rolls of 35MM Kirkland Signature/AGFA 400-24 Color
Print that outdated 9/01. Back fridges are handy for things like
that.

--<< Bruce >>--

Wes

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Feb 27, 2010, 8:10:54 PM2/27/10
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Bruce L. Bergman <bruceNOSP...@gmail.com> wrote:

> My default guess would be to refrigerate - right next to the
>stockpiled last 4 rolls of 35MM Kirkland Signature/AGFA 400-24 Color
>Print that outdated 9/01. Back fridges are handy for things like
>that.


I still have 35MM film in my fridge also. Im not sure if I'll ever shoot it again.
Digicams do excellent work but are not nearly as satisfying to hold as my Canon F-1. That
Canon is one solid piece of craftsmanship. Lots of metal content also. :)

Wes

DoN. Nichols

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Feb 27, 2010, 9:50:07 PM2/27/10
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On 2010-02-28, Bruce L Bergman <bruceNOSP...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 07:31:49 -0600, Pete Keillor
><keill...@chartermi.net> wrote:
>>On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 08:13:36 -0500, Bob Engelhardt
>><bobeng...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>DoN. Nichols wrote:
>
>>>> So -- don't worry about the expiration date. As long as you
>>>> don't fill the bottle too full (it needs some air in the bottle to keep
>>>> it from setting up) it will last forever.
>>>
>>>Thank you - that is good to know! At the rate that I use it, it will be
>>>forever before it's finished. It only takes a drop & it's not that
>>>often that I need to use it.
>>
>>Loctite is packaged in small cross section polyethylene bottles. The
>>oxygen permeability is high enough to keep it from setting up. Put it
>>in an airtight container, and it's done. It sets up in threads due to
>>the long, tight diffusion path for oxygen.
>
> Is this a "Refrigerate is good", " Freezer is even better!" or a
> Refrigerate is BAD!" product?

I think perhaps a "refrigerate is irrelevant" product. :-)

> (You try to get the manufacturers trained to put this stuff on the
> bottle, but they rarely do.)

When it doesn't matter -- why put it there?

Pete Keillor

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Feb 27, 2010, 9:53:08 PM2/27/10
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Don't know, but sounds right. It's hard to imagine slowing down
chemistry being bad, unless the inhibitor reaction was more temp
sensitive than the polymerization reaction. That seems unlikely.

Pete

Bruce L. Bergman

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Mar 2, 2010, 3:43:32 AM3/2/10
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On 28 Feb 2010 02:50:07 GMT, "DoN. Nichols" <dnic...@d-and-d.com>
wrote:

>On 2010-02-28, Bruce L Bergman <bruceNOSP...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 07:31:49 -0600, Pete Keillor
>><keill...@chartermi.net> wrote:
>>>On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 08:13:36 -0500, Bob Engelhardt
>>><bobeng...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>DoN. Nichols wrote:

>>>>> So -- don't worry about the expiration date. As long as you
>>>>> don't fill the bottle too full (it needs some air in the bottle to keep
>>>>> it from setting up) it will last forever.
>>>>
>>>>Thank you - that is good to know! At the rate that I use it, it will be
>>>>forever before it's finished. It only takes a drop & it's not that
>>>>often that I need to use it.
>>>
>>>Loctite is packaged in small cross section polyethylene bottles. The
>>>oxygen permeability is high enough to keep it from setting up. Put it
>>>in an airtight container, and it's done. It sets up in threads due to
>>>the long, tight diffusion path for oxygen.
>>
>> Is this a "Refrigerate is good", " Freezer is even better!" or a
>> Refrigerate is BAD!" product?
>
> I think perhaps a "refrigerate is irrelevant" product. :-)
>
>> (You try to get the manufacturers trained to put this stuff on the
>> bottle, but they rarely do.)
>
> When it doesn't matter -- why put it there?

So we don't waste refrigerator space on something that doesn't need
it, or is actually harmed by chilling or freezing.

How hard is it to mark the Optimum Storage Conditions on the labels
for things? Two or three words.

Fruits and Veggies are a whole nother discussion of Storage.

--<< Bruce >>--

Ned Simmons

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Mar 2, 2010, 1:58:38 PM3/2/10
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On 28 Feb 2010 02:50:07 GMT, "DoN. Nichols" <dnic...@d-and-d.com>
wrote:

>On 2010-02-28, Bruce L Bergman <bruceNOSP...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>
>> Is this a "Refrigerate is good", " Freezer is even better!" or a
>> Refrigerate is BAD!" product?
>
> I think perhaps a "refrigerate is irrelevant" product. :-)

That's my understanding. I used to keep several different flavors of
thread lockers in the the refrig 'til I saw a reputable reference that
said it doesn't matter. CA glues, on the other hand, can benefit from
refrigeration.

--
Ned Simmons

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