On Topic- Lets get rid of Cliff
Dave__67
ejected by the community.
Let's come up with some real-world sanctions/repercussions, get rid of
him, and then go after the next a-hole who takes his place.
Lets go after this fucker- it's time to draw a line, and when someone
crosses that line, get rid of 'em. Make coming here sufficiently
painful he stops coming.
First step- his real-world contact info. Someone's gotta have it.
Dave
Jon Danniken
> I'm serious, if this was a meatspace community, the Cliffs would be
> ejected by the community.
>
> Let's come up with some real-world sanctions/repercussions, get rid of
> him, and then go after the next a-hole who takes his place.
>
> Lets go after this fucker- it's time to draw a line, and when someone
> crosses that line, get rid of 'em. Make coming here sufficiently
> painful he stops coming.
I have had "Cliff" killfilled for several years now, and do not see any of
his posts.
Unfortunately, there are a sufficient number of bozos who incessantly reply
to him. I killfill the majority of them as well, but as with the problem in
making an idiotproof design, new idiots keep popping up.
Jon
Robert Swinney
Bob Swinney
"Jon Danniken" <jondanS...@yaSPAMhoo.com> wrote in message
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Eregon
news:UrudnU1bsO-o6RPW...@giganews.com:
> How does one go about killfilling in RCM? I am using Outlook Exress
> in Giganews reader.
In OE, right-click on a post by the offensive one, click on Message, click
on Block Sender and, then, click on Yes when asked if you want the
offender's messages deleted.
Jim Wilkins
pasture.
jsw
Ed Rinehart
I long ago concluded that "Cliff" is not a real person but is, instead
an automaton, a fairly clever computer program that someone has left
running. At first I thought that it was a failed experiment in
artificial inteligence, but then decided it was a successful experiment
in artificial stupidity.
Steve B
"Dave__67" <spamT...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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No, the first step is to killfile him and not respond. After that, no
further action would be necessary. Same with anyone who posts more on
politics than metalworking.
Steve
Steve B
"Robert Swinney" <jud...@tx.rr.com> wrote in message
news:UrudnU1bsO-o6RPW...@giganews.com...
> How does one go about killfilling in RCM? I am using Outlook Exress in
> Giganews reader.
On my OE, I have the message line highlighted. Go up to MESSAGE, select the
BLOCK SENDER from drop down menu. Select YES when it asks if you want to
filter that person. POOF, GONE. But they will probably morph in a short
time, so you will have to do it again.
I go through, and if someone is questionable, I look to see how many posts
they make on actual metalwork. If they don't make any or many, they go.
But some guys here know a lot about metalworking, and like to get into the
political mud wrestling, too. So it's a judgment call. When someone posts
something so stupid or offensive or profane that I know what kind of a
person they are, I have a one strike rule, thinking that it's likely that
they will never say anything meaningful, and if they ever do, I won't miss
much.
HTH
Steve
Steve B
"Ed Rinehart" <e.rine...@bresnon.not> wrote in message
news:Kr-dnW5IcvnpCRPW...@bresnan.com...
My take is that he is a troll without a real life.
Steve
Robert Swinney
The analogy with "troll" was pretty much on the mark. I'll not do a lot of killfilling but will
centainly concentrate on the gross cross-posters when I do.
Bob Swinney
"Steve B" <desert...@fishymail.net> wrote in message news:vmh267-...@news.infowest.com...
Ignoramus27796
left wing and right wing kooks. My criteria is that the person whom I
killfiling has nothing to contribute. It works out fairly well.
I cannot killfile crossposts to alt.machines.cnc, for obvious
reasons.
i
Ecnerwal
<684bea24-4d27-4926...@b7g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
Dave__67 <spamT...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Lets go after this fucker- it's time to draw a line, and when someone
> crosses that line, get rid of 'em. Make coming here sufficiently
> painful he stops coming.
All that's required to neutralize _all_ the trolls is to simply ignore
all off topic posts. Don't look at them, don't read them, don't respond
to agree and stroke the ego of the poster, don't respond to set the
poster straight and stroke the ego of the poster. Just let them drop
like rocks in a pond that refuses to ripple.
NOTHING is more painful to trolls than simply being ignored.
--
Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by
Jon Danniken
> How does one go about killfilling in RCM? I am using Outlook Exress
> in Giganews reader.
I dunno about the "Giganews reader", but in OE it's (Message > Block Sender
> Yes).
Jon
Artemus
Giganews reader.
>
> Bob Swinney
even blocks the idiots who reply to him.
Create a filter thusly:
Open any post by the offending idiot and copy the From info to the
clipboard. Close the post.
On the OE main menu - Tools | Message Rules | News
Click New.
Check boxes "Where from line contains people", "Mark it as read",
and "Mark message as watched or ignored".
In window #3 Click "contains people" and Add the offenders info. OK.
Click "watched or ignored: and select "ignore". OK.
Window #4 rename the rule if you want to.
OK. OK.
Then set your View to "hide read or ignored messages"
You will now never see any of the offenders posts nor any post
that replies to it.
Art
Artemus
"Artemus" <bo...@invalid.org> wrote in message
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>
> "Robert Swinney" <jud...@tx.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:UrudnU1bsO-o6RPW...@giganews.com...
> > How does one go about killfilling in RCM? I am using Outlook Exress in
> Giganews reader.
> >
> > Bob Swinney
> Block Sender is one way but I've come up with a better way that
> even blocks the idiots who reply to him.
> Create a filter thusly:
> Open any post by the offending idiot and copy the From info to the
> clipboard. Close the post.
> On the OE main menu - Tools | Message Rules | News
> Click New.
> Check boxes "Where from line contains people", "Mark it as read",
> and "Mark message as watched or ignored".
> Click "watched or ignored: and select "ignore". OK.
> Window #4 rename the rule if you want to.
> OK. OK.
> Then set your View to "hide read or ignored messages"
> You will now never see any of the offenders posts nor any post
> that replies to it.
> Art
>
step marked ** above.
Art
Hawke
You need to give some thought to how much you would actually have to say
if you kept to strictly metalworking topics. Most people here do
projects as a hobby, which means they are not doing new things every day
and they have long periods when they do little or nothing metal related.
If they stuck strictly to metalwork they would make a couple of posts
and then go away because they wouldn't have anything else to comment on.
If you make all the posts strictly about metalworking do you know how
small this newsgroup would be, and do you know how little you would
contribute? I bet the majority of your posts have no metalworking
content. The truth of the matter is there is not enough metal content to
keep everyone interested so the topics go a lot more to current events.
I think it adds to the group. A lot of metalworking subjects people post
about have no interest except for a few people. You restrict the group
to just metalworking and you wind up with a very tiny group. Some people
would be happy with that but from the way it is now most would not like
that.
Hawke
Hawke
> No, the first step is to killfile him and not respond. After that, no
> further action would be necessary. Same with anyone who posts more on
> politics than metalworking.
>
> Steve
But you post more on politics than you do on metalworking. Guess what?
So do most people and that includes the people bitching right now.
Hawke
Ignoramus27796
> In <g92dnTMfMfY4VhPW...@giganews.com>, on Wed, 03 Mar 2010
> will not be anything you're interested in.
>
Well, _I_ just bought a CNC mill and I do xpost to alt.machines.cnc
from time to time. That's why I cannot killfile such
crossposts. survivalism is a better filtering criteria.
i
Doug Miller
>In <g92dnTMfMfY4VhPW...@giganews.com>, on Wed, 03 Mar 2010
>14:50:45 -0600, Ignoramus27796, ignoram...@NOSPAM.27796.invalid wrote:
>will not be anything you're interested in.
>
you're interested in...
Doug Miller
>
>You need to give some thought to how much you would actually have to say
>if you kept to strictly metalworking topics. Most people here do
>projects as a hobby, which means they are not doing new things every day
>and they have long periods when they do little or nothing metal related.
>If they stuck strictly to metalwork they would make a couple of posts
>and then go away because they wouldn't have anything else to comment on.
>If you make all the posts strictly about metalworking do you know how
>small this newsgroup would be, and do you know how little you would
>contribute?
While it's true that many people here post about metalworking *and* on
non-related topics, there are two regulars here who _almost never_ post
anything related to metalworking, whose posts are almost always left-wing
political rants of one sort or another -- and whose posts the group would IMHO
be better off without.
One of those regulars is the subject of this thread.
The other one is you.
Wes
>> Lets go after this *ucker- it's time to draw a line, and when someone
>> crosses that line, get rid of 'em. Make coming here sufficiently
>> painful he stops coming.
>
>I have had "Cliff" killfilled for several years now, and do not see any of
>his posts.
>
>Unfortunately, there are a sufficient number of bozos who incessantly reply
>to him. I killfill the majority of them as well, but as with the problem in
>making an idiotproof design, new idiots keep popping up.
If only they would learn to trim!
Wes
Wes
>I long ago concluded that "Cliff" is not a real person but is, instead
>an automaton, a fairly clever computer program that someone has left
>running. At first I thought that it was a failed experiment in
>artificial inteligence, but then decided it was a successful experiment
>in artificial stupidity.
I concluded "Cliff" is an Eliza program that was given internet access after some demented
scientist gained access to the worlds nuclear launch codes and tweeked Eliza just a bit to
fit his worldview. No nation state dares shutting it down for fear of the repercussions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA
Wes
Wes
>But you post more on politics than you do on metalworking. Guess what?
>So do most people and that includes the people bitching right now.
What were your recent metalworking projects?
Wes
Wes
>99% of anything posted to *any* group plus four others will not be anything
>you're interested in...
I tend to think 3 is the limit.
Wes
Too_Many_Tools
> I'm serious, if this was a meatspace community, the Cliffs would be
> ejected by the community.
>
> Let's come up with some real-world sanctions/repercussions, get rid of
> him, and then go after the next a-hole who takes his place.
>
> crosses that line, get rid of 'em. Make coming here sufficiently
> painful he stops coming.
>
>
> Dave
Are you going to take out Gunner too?
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
> On 3/3/2010 9:15 AM, Steve B wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Hawke is right...Steve is one of the conservatives who rails at any
political post that doesn't reflect his values.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
And they only bitch when the post isn't conservative.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
Damn...I am feeling left out.
I demand a recount.
TMT
Steve B
"Doug Miller" <spam...@milmac.com> wrote in message
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Kudos, Doug.
Stormin Mormon
"block sender".
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
"Robert Swinney" <jud...@tx.rr.com> wrote in
message
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How does one go about killfilling in RCM? I am
using Outlook Exress in Giganews reader.
Bob Swinney
Hawke
So do you want to break the news to him or should I? That the truth is
the only difference between him and us is the percentage of metal to non
metal posts. That's like comparing a whore that works all night to one
that has just one trick. They're both whores. But I doubt he'll get the
connection so here it is. He's the same as us posting about metal and
non metal related topics and the only difference is in quantity. In
other words, he's just as guilty of off topic posts as anyone else. He
just does it less than some others. But at least he's a hypocrite about it.
Hawke
Hawke
Thanks for proving my point, Steve. You just did another off topic post.
So did Doug. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Like you do.
Hawke
Hawke
>> You need to give some thought to how much you would actually have to say
>> if you kept to strictly metalworking topics. Most people here do
>> projects as a hobby, which means they are not doing new things every day
>> and they have long periods when they do little or nothing metal related.
>> If they stuck strictly to metalwork they would make a couple of posts
>> and then go away because they wouldn't have anything else to comment on.
>> If you make all the posts strictly about metalworking do you know how
>> small this newsgroup would be, and do you know how little you would
>> contribute? I bet the majority of your posts have no metalworking
>> content. The truth of the matter is there is not enough metal content to
>> keep everyone interested so the topics go a lot more to current events.
>> I think it adds to the group. A lot of metalworking subjects people post
>> about have no interest except for a few people. You restrict the group
>> to just metalworking and you wind up with a very tiny group. Some people
>> would be happy with that but from the way it is now most would not like
>> that.
>>
>> Hawke- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Hawke is right...Steve is one of the conservatives who rails at any
> political post that doesn't reflect his values.
>
> TMT
The vast majority of his posts are not metal related either. Which
happens to be exactly what he criticizes us for.
Hawke
Hawke
I just welded a patch panel on my CJ5. Did you want to hear all about
it? I didn't think so.
Hawke
Ignoramus27796
>
> I just welded a patch panel on my CJ5. Did you want to hear all about
> it? I didn't think so.
I would like to hear about that, personally.
i
Robert Swinney
Bob Swinney
"Steve B" <desert...@fishymail.net> wrote in message news:mmb367-...@news.infowest.com...
Ecnerwal
immensely, since the people who presently leave in disgust when they
come here to discuss metalworking would not have reason to leave, and
jackasses who never or rarely post about metalworking (roughly two
leftards, fifteen or so rightards, plus one or two "how do they even
connect to the web"-tards that are more clueless than political) would
probably dry up and blow away; or at least limit their output to
metalworking when their political crap gets no response whatever, from
anyone.
In short, if you simply post about metalworking, that's a good thing. If
you want to post about politics, there are groups for that, go there,
post there, argue there - don't do it here, nobody here will miss your
keen political insight, whichever direction you lean, wingnut, or rant.
This will never happen, since all the -tards are -tards and can't manage
to stop being -tards. But it would be really nice. We should try it.
Since this isn't metalworking, I'm going to stop posting in this thread.
Everyone else should give it a try, too.
--
Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by
DoN. Nichols
> "Jon Danniken" <jondanS...@yaSPAMhoo.com> wrote in message
> news:7v755g...@mid.individual.net...
[ ... ]
>> I have had "Cliff" killfilled for several years now, and do not see any of
>> his posts.
> How does one go about killfilling in RCM? I am using Outlook Exress in Giganews reader.
It is the same for any usenet newsgroup, and is specific to the
newsreader which you are using. Some offer much more powerful
killfiling capabilities than others.
"Outlook Express" is your newsreader, and "Giganews" is your
news server. Unless you were using a web-based interface to the
newsgroup, it really would not matter who you use as the news sever,
execept that some my be doing a better job of killing off spam before
you see it than others.
Since what I use is "slrn" on a unix system, I can't tell you
how to do it in Outlook Express, which does not run on my systems, but
as I understand it, it is far less capable than free programs for
Windows like "Agent".
I think that you perhaps should look into changing newsreader to
one which is recommended as having good killfile capabilities under
Windows. (I won't bother suggesting that you change to Linux or some
other unix system -- if you were willing to do that, you would have
already I suspect. :-)
Of course -- you *will* have to learn a different user interface
when you switch newsreaders -- but I suspect that you will discover lots
of other reasons to like the new one after the switch.
Good luck,
DoN.
--
Email: <dnic...@d-and-d.com> | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564
(too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html
--- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero ---
DoN. Nichols
> Wed, 3 Mar 2010 04:58:59 -0800 (PST), Dave__67, spamT...@yahoo.com
>
>> I'm serious, if this was a meatspace community, the Cliffs would be
>> ejected by the community.
>
> you just hit 3 keys. 'k' 'f' <enter>
>
> Or you don't even have to single him out. Just
> filter all posts crossposted to 4 groups or more.
> That has the added bonus of getting rid of anyone that
> responds to the crossposts.
*Except* -- when the person responding "helpfully" trims the
"Newsgroups: " header to just rec.crafts.metalworking. Then the thread
pops up here and I have to individually killfile the "Subject: " header
as well.
Enjoy,
Robert Swinney
Wes
Robert Swinney
Bob Swinney
"Wes" <clu...@lycos.com> wrote in message news:MdLjn.21257$Vq1....@en-nntp-03.dc1.easynews.com...
Ed Huntress
Do you hammer-weld with O/A, old-style, or do you use MIG?
--
Ed Huntress
Hawke
>
> "DoN. Nichols"<dnic...@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
> news:slrnhou99p....@Katana.d-and-d.com...
> On 2010-03-03, Robert Swinney<jud...@tx.rr.com> wrote:
>> "Jon Danniken"<jondanS...@yaSPAMhoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:7v755g...@mid.individual.net...
>
> [ ... ]
>
>>> I have had "Cliff" killfilled for several years now, and do not see any of
>>> his posts.
>
>> How does one go about killfilling in RCM? I am using Outlook Exress in Giganews reader.
>
> It is the same for any usenet newsgroup, and is specific to the
> newsreader which you are using. Some offer much more powerful
> killfiling capabilities than others.
You want to know how to killfile someone? It's real simple and you don't
have to know anything. It's like the idea people have about safeties on
guns. They say the only safety you need on a gun is the operator. If you
keep your finger off the trigger until the correct time to shoot you'll
never have a problem; so who needs a mechanical safety? On the newsgroup
all you do is use your mouse or your eyes. When you come across a post
that you don't want to read you just pass over it or you just delete it.
Simple, huh? It's a lot better method than trying to eliminate everyone
you don't agree with the way right wingers like to do.
Hawke
Hawke
You're kidding, right? I mean, what is there to say about cutting a
piece of sheet metal to the size of your hole and tack welding it in
place? There's nothing to it. But if you really want to know what I did
was remove a secondary gas tank that was under the driver's seat in my
CJ5. I felt that a Jeep is dangerous enough that I don't need five
gallons of fuel right under my ass that would go off like a bomb in an
accident. But this left a good sized hole in the body on the drivers
side near the door. Not much report about repairing it though. Getting
the paint to match is going to be a lot more difficult.
Hawke
Hawke
Mig, of course. But that's my point. Using MY MIG welder (Miller 210) to
put a patch in the body of a jeep is so boring and simple that I
wouldn't even bother mentioning it. When I have a project that really
takes some skill that would be different. When I was taking a welding
class at the local community college the instructor said that a chimp
could MIG weld. His one caveat was that you had to set up the machine
for him. I believe him.
Hawke
Burled Frau
"Doug Miller" <spam...@milmac.com> wrote in message
news:hmms0t$k0$3...@news.eternal-september.org...
> In article <hmmoa9$f9p$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Hawke
> <davesm...@digitalpath.net> wrote:
>>
>>You need to give some thought to how much you would actually have to say
>>if you kept to strictly metalworking topics. Most people here do
>>projects as a hobby, which means they are not doing new things every day
>>and they have long periods when they do little or nothing metal related.
>>If they stuck strictly to metalwork they would make a couple of posts
>>and then go away because they wouldn't have anything else to comment on.
>>If you make all the posts strictly about metalworking do you know how
>>small this newsgroup would be, and do you know how little you would
>>contribute?
>
> While it's true that many people here post about metalworking *and* on
> non-related topics, there are two regulars here who _almost never_ post
> anything related to metalworking, whose posts are almost always left-wing
> political rants of one sort or another -- and whose posts the group would
> IMHO
> be better off without.
>
> One of those regulars is the subject of this thread.
>
> The other one is you.
Not to mention the spillover into other groups, their posted shit attracts
the flies, so to speak, like me. I couldn't care less about metalworking and
would have never even known that this group exists if it wasn't for
cross-posting spammers like Cliff, Hack and TMT, whose main focus appear to
be gay fisting, political ignorance, and gun grabbing, respectfully in that
order.
Before these 3 amigos started cross-spamming into my groups,
rec.metalworking was an insignificant and irrelevant newsgroup to all issues
pertaining to me. Let's restore rec.metalworking to it's rightful place.
Burled Frau
"Robert Swinney" <jud...@tx.rr.com> wrote in message
news:cpudnTkx-9A-jxLW...@giganews.com...
Triple kudos.
Burled Frau
"Ecnerwal" <MyName...@ReplaceWithMyVices.Com.invalid> wrote in message
news:MyNameForward-A4E...@mail.eternal-september.org...
Yep, now if only you metalworking-tards could only figure out how to find
the proper political newsgroup to post to, Usenet could go back to being and
efficient place for exchange of ideas in the properly categorized areas. It
seems that it's the stupid political fucks who abuse this, it's often said
that when you are too stupid to learn anything else in life, take up
political science.
Burled Frau
"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hmn0bs$791$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
Oh great. The top-poster who still hasn't figured out how to quote properly
is giving his 2 cents worth.
Ignoramus26053
What exactly are you trying to accomplish in this newsgroup?
i
Burled Frau
"Ignoramus27796" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.27796.invalid> wrote in message
news:g92dnTMfMfY4VhPW...@giganews.com...
> I killfile everything crossposted to survivalism, Cliff and a few more
> left wing and right wing kooks. My criteria is that the person whom I
> killfiling has nothing to contribute. It works out fairly well.
>
> I cannot killfile crossposts to alt.machines.cnc, for obvious
> reasons.
>
> I
Instead of killfiling posts crossposted to survivalism, please just trim
survivalism out of your reply. This would help immensely by stopping the
spam in survivalism. We really don't appreciate your spamming community that
spawned the likes of Cliff and Hack, and the freak with two mommies.
Burled Frau
"Wes" <clu...@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:SDCjn.10199$Jq1....@en-nntp-05.dc1.easynews.com...
> Hawke <davesm...@digitalpath.net> wrote:
>
>>But you post more on politics than you do on metalworking. Guess what?
>>So do most people and that includes the people bitching right now.
>
> What were your recent metalworking projects?
>
> Wes
>
I recall Hack posting about a Titanium dildo he was working on that he was
looking forward to shoving up his ass.
Burled Frau
"Hawke" <davesm...@digitalpath.net> wrote in message
news:hmq7t1$8l9$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
Try to stay on-topic bozo. When he said he wanted to hear about it, he meant
for you to start your own thread. Didmn't you learn how to use a newsreader
in your poli-hack school?
Burled Frau
"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7e5d3944-df99-4cf6...@d27g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 3, 6:58 am, Dave__67 <spamTHIS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I'm serious, if this was a meatspace community, the Cliffs would be
>> ejected by the community.
>>
>> Let's come up with some real-world sanctions/repercussions, get rid of
>> him, and then go after the next a-hole who takes his place.
>>
>> Lets go after this fucker- it's time to draw a line, and when someone
>> crosses that line, get rid of 'em. Make coming here sufficiently
>> painful he stops coming.
>>
>> First step- his real-world contact info. Someone's gotta have it.
>>
>> Dave
>
> Are you going to take out Gunner too?
>
> TMT
No. Gunner has added more useful metal information to the group then the
three of you cross-posting spammer combined.
Burled Frau
"Ignoramus26053" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.26053.invalid> wrote in message
news:a4ydnSaJ7-M-Gw_W...@giganews.com...
> On 2010-03-06, Burled Frau <ach...@jawol.jah> wrote:
>
> What exactly are you trying to accomplish in this newsgroup?
>
> I
Raise awareness and stop the cross-posting from your group into ours. It's
not as if we just showed up here, we were properly invited, dragging and
screaming. If you don't do something to keep your spawn on a short leash, we
may even get used to this place. Just keep your political hack discussions
here in r.c.m where they belong, and trim out our group when you crosspost.
Thanks for asking and for your consideration.
dca...@krl.org
> On 3/3/2010 9:15 AM, Steve B wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Robert Swinney"<judy...@tx.rr.com> wrote in message
> >news:UrudnU1bsO-o6RPW...@giganews.com...
> >> How does one go about killfilling in RCM? I am using Outlook Exress in
> >> Giganews reader.
>
> > BLOCK SENDER from drop down menu. Select YES when it asks if you want to
> > filter that person. POOF, GONE. But they will probably morph in a short
> > time, so you will have to do it again.
>
> > I go through, and if someone is questionable, I look to see how many posts
> > they make on actual metalwork. If they don't make any or many, they go.
> > But some guys here know a lot about metalworking, and like to get into the
> > political mud wrestling, too. So it's a judgment call. When someone posts
> > something so stupid or offensive or profane that I know what kind of a
> > person they are, I have a one strike rule, thinking that it's likely that
> > they will never say anything meaningful, and if they ever do, I won't miss
> > much.
>
> > HTH
>
> > Steve
>
> You need to give some thought to how much you would actually have to say
> if you kept to strictly metalworking topics. Most people here do
> projects as a hobby, which means they are not doing new things every day
> and they have long periods when they do little or nothing metal related.
> If they stuck strictly to metalwork they would make a couple of posts
> and then go away because they wouldn't have anything else to comment on.
> If you make all the posts strictly about metalworking do you know how
> small this newsgroup would be, and do you know how little you would
> content. The truth of the matter is there is not enough metal content to
> keep everyone interested so the topics go a lot more to current events.
> I think it adds to the group. A lot of metalworking subjects people post
> about have no interest except for a few people. You restrict the group
> to just metalworking and you wind up with a very tiny group. Some people
> would be happy with that but from the way it is now most would not like
> that.
>
> Hawke
But this group is suppose to be just metalworking. And way back in
the past posts on metalworking were the majority of what was posted.
And if it were that way again, it would not be a tiny group. Many
people no longer read or post here because there are so much off topic
posts. I can think of three that posted on metalworking that no
longer read the group. People that posted things I liked to read.
I think we ought to ask Cliff to leave RCM off the groups when he
starts a thread on anything that is not on topic. Since he is the
most prolific poster that would be a good start. Then look at the rcm
statistics and find who is then the most prolific poster. And if it
is someone that posts only OT items, ask them to please not include
RCM in the groups their messages are posted to.
Dan
Dan
Burled Frau
<dca...@krl.org> wrote in message
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And leave survivalism off their off topic posts as well.
Perhaps someone would be willing to point out some of the Political
newsgroups for Hack, and then maybe he could test his theories there, by
spamming those groups with metalworking topics.
Gunner Asch
wrote:
Which group might that be? One notices no other groups in the response
list.
Gunner
Whenever a Liberal utters the term "Common Sense approach"....grab your
wallet, your ass, and your guns because the sombitch is about to do
something damned nasty to all three of them.
Burled Frau
"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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alt.aol.tricks
Steve B
Dan
Or, do what I do, and filter him, and never answer him. Too bad people
can't grasp that easy concept. He'd be gone in a flash. But then, there
are the clones he has created. Oh, well, same with them.
Some here only write on metalworking. Some write on metalworking and mix in
other subjects. Others write about no metalworking.
I think this group has become a playground for people who morph daily and go
in and bang around a newsgroup, then bounce to another. Never adding
anything of substance about whatever the newsgroup is about, yet adding all
manner of ways to save the world, and what a villain Bush and Cheney was,
and what an inside job 911 was, and all that crap.
If that's what winds your clock, then go for it. But it has to be an empty
life. It's like giving a drunk $50, and telling him to get a good meal.
Wasted energy to talk with some of these types here.
Steve
Hawke
I don't know what the hell you're doing here in the first place. You're
nothing but a survival group nut who dropped in here and now you won't
leave. You bitch about this group and the discussions and then you post
off topic and whine about everybody else. Why don't you take your own
advice and go back where you came from because you never will post on
metal content? You said that yourself. You just dropped in to complain?
Like that's a great contribution. Go back and discuss your well stocked
hole in the ground with the other crazies who think the world will end
before you do. In case you didn't notice it you're in the wrong place,
you dropout.
Hawke
Hawke
That's exactly the kind of idiot posting that the complainers are
bitching about. Crawl back under your rock.
Hawke
Burled Frau
"Hawke" <davesm...@digitalpath.net> wrote in message
news:hmvefc$qt4$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
Why don't you and your goons quit crossposting your political insecurities
to the survival groups and I might leave? But since you invited me here, I
think I'll stay a while.
Burled Frau
"Hawke" <davesm...@digitalpath.net> wrote in message
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You should work harder on finishing your dildo, you seem pretty cranky
without it.
dca...@krl.org
> Or, do what I do, and filter him, and never answer him. Too bad people
> can't grasp that easy concept. He'd be gone in a flash. But then, there
> are the clones he has created. Oh, well, same with them.
>
> Steve
Your approach will not bring back people as Jim Rozen, Bob Powell,
Pete Albrecht.
Dan
rangerssuck
> I'm serious, if this was a meatspace community, the Cliffs would be
> ejected by the community.
>
> Let's come up with some real-world sanctions/repercussions, get rid of
> him, and then go after the next a-hole who takes his place.
>
> Lets go after this fucker- it's time to draw a line, and when someone
> crosses that line, get rid of 'em. Make coming here sufficiently
> painful he stops coming.
>
> First step- his real-world contact info. Someone's gotta have it.
>
> Dave
If Gunner would stick to metalworking and leave off the incendiary
quotes at the end of EVERY posting...
Have you noticed how the signal to noise ratio took a dive when he
came back from rehab (or wherever the hell he was)?
Steve B
<dca...@krl.org> wrote in message
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> Steve
Dan
You're right, but maybe if they saw the SN ratio drop. Then there are
others out there who might start. This used to be, and FWIW is STILL a damn
fine group, of people, as well, and is a treasure trove of knowledge.
It's up to everyone to make an effort to cut the crap. I am trying, but
still chime in on subjects. As is nice. At work, you talk about "stuff",
too. But a guy who's so obsessed about "stuff" that he doesn't get a lick
of work done is soon gone.
It should be that way, too.
Steve
Burled Frau
"Steve B" <desert...@fishymail.net> wrote in message
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For what it's worth, I think you are a fine group of people too, and wish I
had some metalworking interest too, I really enjoy learning from the
on-topic posts I read here. I actually feel bad when I have to "return to
sender" the spam that emanates from this otherwise fine group of people.
I realize the political fucks are too stupid to figure out how to find the
right newsgroup to post in. You could see that in the way they don't even
know how to quote properly or form sentences (Hack is a perfect example).
But we have enough libtards to deal with already over at misc.survivalism,
we don't need any of yours giving the place any atmosphere. Trimming our
group out of your spam lists would help immensely. I hope we could be good
online neighbors in that respect.
rangerssuck
> For what it's worth, I think you are a fine group of people too, and wish I
> had some metalworking interest too, I really enjoy learning from the
> on-topic posts I read here. I actually feel bad when I have to "return to
> sender" the spam that emanates from this otherwise fine group of people.
>
> I realize the political fucks are too stupid to figure out how to find the
> right newsgroup to post in.
You're kidding, right? Have you looked in a mirror lately? Have you
EVER made an on topic post to rcm?
Hawke
>>> I recall Hack posting about a Titanium dildo he was working on that he
>>> was looking forward to shoving up his ass.
>>
>>
>> That's exactly the kind of idiot posting that the complainers are
>> bitching about. Crawl back under your rock.
>>
>> Hawke
>
> You should work harder on finishing your dildo, you seem pretty cranky
> without it.
In this case I'm going to defer to you since you seem to be an expert on
them. Unlike you I don't know jack about dildos. It seems to be a
favorite subject of yours. You should be in another newsgroup where they
discuss things like that. Find one.
Hawke
Wes
>I have had "Cliff" killfilled for several years now, and do not see any of
>his posts.
>
>Unfortunately, there are a sufficient number of bozos who incessantly reply
>to him. I killfill the majority of them as well, but as with the problem in
>making an idiotproof design, new idiots keep popping up.
I had to kill file him years ago. I have strong political beliefs and he tends to post
salaciaus topics and seldom contributes anything, at least up to the time I kill filed
him. Same for TMT though I think TMT could be a contributing member of this group if he
would tone it down. There is someone on some of the web boards using his handle that has
the same writing style but stays inside the lines well enough to not get kicked.
I don't have a problem with discussing things that are OT with people that are actually
interested in metalworking. I can give you the run down on how I turned a 2 1/2# bar bell
weight into a hand wheel for a collet closer today but I don't think most people really
care that much. We all have dry spells in our metalworking at times but still like to
chat with those we have come to like after years of posting.
Wes
Burled Frau
"Hawke" <davesm...@digitalpath.net> wrote in message
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So let me get this straight, you claim not to be an expert, but somehow you
knew Titanium would fit your needs. OK fruitcake.
Hawke
You're the man when it comes to dildos. Doesn't matter what they are
made out of you have a solid hold on them. But like I said, your
preoccupation with dildos should be done somewhere else with other
people with the same kind of interests in dildos you have.
Hawke