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10 cheapest BEST cities to live.... and to run a mfr'g bidniss??
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Existential Angst
Oct 13, 2011, 5:12:45 PM10/13/11
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http://money.msn.com/saving-money/10-best-places-to-live-cheaply-forbes.aspx?cp-documentid=6855877>1=33026
The first listing, Sandusky, Ohio, gives the articles sources.
Michigan, Ohio, Indiana seem to dominate -- haven't checked the geography,
but mebbe all close to mfr'g towns? Elkhart, Indiana f'sure.
But Cumberland, Md-W. Va (not dat far from me) was a bit of a surprise --
altho anything with W. Va. could explain "cheap".
I thought Tennessee might be in there (TVA), and KY, but apparently lots of
retirees are flocking there, running up prices. And with smaller mosquitoes
than in Florida....
Note the relatively high crime rate in Fairbanks, about 6x Elkhart, Ind.
Most in the middle.
And the other Q is, Are these place also good for a bidniss??
Food fer thought.
--
EA
Jon Elson
Oct 14, 2011, 12:28:34 AM10/14/11
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Existential Angst wrote:
>
http://money.msn.com/saving-money/10-best-places-to-live-cheaply-forbes.aspx?cp-documentid=6855877>1=33026
>
> The first listing, Sandusky, Ohio, gives the articles sources.
>
> Michigan, Ohio, Indiana seem to dominate -- haven't checked the geography,
> but mebbe all close to mfr'g towns? Elkhart, Indiana f'sure.
> But Cumberland, Md-W. Va (not dat far from me) was a bit of a surprise --
> altho anything with W. Va. could explain "cheap".
Have you checked into Missouri? They are generally small-business
friendly, relatively low taxes, not a lot of excess regulation,
pretty cheap property values (really gotten very cheap lately, but it is not
likely to stay that way).
Jon
Larry Jaques
Oct 14, 2011, 7:32:34 AM10/14/11
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On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:28:34 -0500, Jon Elson <el...@pico-systems.com>
wrote:
wrote:
Move to Misery? Mebbe not!
Missouriably hot in the summer.
Missouriably cold in the winter.
Missouriably humid alla time.
It's in Tornado Alley. http://goo.gl/Ifthi
Watch out for the lead. http://goo.gl/BpcYi
There are one or two rednecks there in them thar Ozarks.
I grew up downstairs, in Arkansas, as a kid. I have no use for the
South or the Midwest or whatever they want to call those states.
BTDT, got the sweat, said goodbye.
--
Every day I remind myself that my inner and outer life are
based on the labors of other men, living and dead, and that
I must exert myself in order to give in the same measure as
I have received and am still receiving.
-- Albert Einstein
Karl Townsend
Oct 14, 2011, 8:35:34 AM10/14/11
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...
>Move to Misery? Mebbe not!
>Missouriably hot in the summer.
>Missouriably cold in the winter.
>Missouriably humid alla time.
>It's in Tornado Alley. http://goo.gl/Ifthi
>Watch out for the lead. http://goo.gl/BpcYi
>There are one or two rednecks there in them thar Ozarks.
>
>I grew up downstairs, in Arkansas, as a kid. I have no use for the
>South or the Midwest or whatever they want to call those states.
>BTDT, got the sweat, said goodbye.
>Move to Misery? Mebbe not!
>Missouriably hot in the summer.
>Missouriably cold in the winter.
>Missouriably humid alla time.
>It's in Tornado Alley. http://goo.gl/Ifthi
>Watch out for the lead. http://goo.gl/BpcYi
>There are one or two rednecks there in them thar Ozarks.
>
>I grew up downstairs, in Arkansas, as a kid. I have no use for the
>South or the Midwest or whatever they want to call those states.
>BTDT, got the sweat, said goodbye.
I feel about the same. I grew up in far eastern KS and hated the
summer climate. And mud all winter.
Moved to MN for only one year. Then I met a lady, and I'm still here
35 years later. Neither of us like the long winter,so we are part of
the snowbird population (to the FL keys) . Now we got the best of
both.
It is good that everybody has a different favorite spot, Otherwise
we'd all go to one place and ruin it.
Karl
Larry Jaques
Oct 14, 2011, 8:48:49 AM10/14/11
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On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 07:35:34 -0500, Karl Townsend
<karltown...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
<karltown...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>...
>>Move to Misery? Mebbe not!
>>Missouriably hot in the summer.
>>Missouriably cold in the winter.
>>Missouriably humid alla time.
>>It's in Tornado Alley. http://goo.gl/Ifthi
>>Watch out for the lead. http://goo.gl/BpcYi
>>There are one or two rednecks there in them thar Ozarks.
>>
>>I grew up downstairs, in Arkansas, as a kid. I have no use for the
>>South or the Midwest or whatever they want to call those states.
>>BTDT, got the sweat, said goodbye.
>
>I feel about the same. I grew up in far eastern KS and hated the
>summer climate. And mud all winter.
>
>Moved to MN for only one year. Then I met a lady, and I'm still here
>35 years later. Neither of us like the long winter,so we are part of
>the snowbird population (to the FL keys) . Now we got the best of
>both.
But how do you handle the heat and/or humidity of spring/summer/fall?
>It is good that everybody has a different favorite spot, Otherwise
>we'd all go to one place and ruin it.
Verily. That's what happened to my last state, CA.
Gunner Asch
Oct 14, 2011, 8:46:43 PM10/14/11
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economic basketcase states........
My dad has his house up for sale in Michigan. Grayling Michigan.
The town is dying.
It used to be a decent place to live..and he is leaving after nearly 40
yrs in that house. He and I built it...and its georgious, on acreage.
And a doublewide in a park in So. Cal sells for more by a significant
amount.
Allen Drake
Oct 15, 2011, 8:47:28 PM10/15/11
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On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:46:43 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Until the right wingnut hacks got a hold of this counrty. Now the US
of A will never be the same.
Pitty.
wrote:
of A will never be the same.
Pitty.
Home Guy
Oct 15, 2011, 9:41:26 PM10/15/11
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Allen Drake wrote:
> Until the right wingnut hacks got a hold of this counrty. Now the US
> of A will never be the same.
>
> Pitty.
That's what you get for electing a borderline mentally handicapped
> Until the right wingnut hacks got a hold of this counrty. Now the US
> of A will never be the same.
>
> Pitty.
person (George Bush) for your president. Twice no less.
When you go off invading countries countries in the middle east and call
it a "war" and spend trillions of dollars on foolhardy escapades like
that, you get a country in pitty-full shape.
Bush's strategery worked out real well, as did Rumsfeld's known unknowns
and Cheney's secret energy meetings.
How did Bush's push for increased home-ownership rates pan out?
RickH
Oct 15, 2011, 11:11:40 PM10/15/11
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On Oct 13, 4:12 pm, "Existential Angst" <fit...@optonline.net> wrote:
> http://money.msn.com/saving-money/10-best-places-to-live-cheaply-forb...
research to the interests of everyone. If what makes you happy, be it
the music scene, cultural scene, dance, work, or community of folks
with a common interest etc... can only be had in a less than "optimal"
place, then that is paradise to you. There are just way too many
factors to weigh for people that have interests outside of just going
to work and coming home for 30 years, raising kids, then dying. If
you have any life at all outside that, then these surveys are
meaningless because they only consider one or two economic factors.
If you truly loved bowling would you want to live somewhere with no
bowling alley for 50 miles no matter how great a bargain the local
economy is?
> http://money.msn.com/saving-money/10-best-places-to-live-cheaply-forb...
>
> The first listing, Sandusky, Ohio, gives the articles sources.
>
> Michigan, Ohio, Indiana seem to dominate -- haven't checked the geography,
> but mebbe all close to mfr'g towns? Elkhart, Indiana f'sure.
> But Cumberland, Md-W. Va (not dat far from me) was a bit of a surprise --
> altho anything with W. Va. could explain "cheap".
>
> I thought Tennessee might be in there (TVA), and KY, but apparently lots of
> retirees are flocking there, running up prices. And with smaller mosquitoes
> than in Florida....
>
> Note the relatively high crime rate in Fairbanks, about 6x Elkhart, Ind.
> Most in the middle.
>
> And the other Q is, Are these place also good for a bidniss??
> Food fer thought.
> --
> EA
These surveys never make any sense because they can never apply their
> The first listing, Sandusky, Ohio, gives the articles sources.
>
> Michigan, Ohio, Indiana seem to dominate -- haven't checked the geography,
> but mebbe all close to mfr'g towns? Elkhart, Indiana f'sure.
> But Cumberland, Md-W. Va (not dat far from me) was a bit of a surprise --
> altho anything with W. Va. could explain "cheap".
>
> I thought Tennessee might be in there (TVA), and KY, but apparently lots of
> retirees are flocking there, running up prices. And with smaller mosquitoes
> than in Florida....
>
> Note the relatively high crime rate in Fairbanks, about 6x Elkhart, Ind.
> Most in the middle.
>
> And the other Q is, Are these place also good for a bidniss??
> Food fer thought.
> --
> EA
research to the interests of everyone. If what makes you happy, be it
the music scene, cultural scene, dance, work, or community of folks
with a common interest etc... can only be had in a less than "optimal"
place, then that is paradise to you. There are just way too many
factors to weigh for people that have interests outside of just going
to work and coming home for 30 years, raising kids, then dying. If
you have any life at all outside that, then these surveys are
meaningless because they only consider one or two economic factors.
If you truly loved bowling would you want to live somewhere with no
bowling alley for 50 miles no matter how great a bargain the local
economy is?
Gunner Asch
Oct 16, 2011, 12:16:37 AM10/16/11
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On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 20:47:28 -0400, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
wrote:
>>
>>It used to be a decent place to live..and he is leaving after nearly 40
>>yrs in that house. He and I built it...and its georgious, on acreage.
>>And a doublewide in a park in So. Cal sells for more by a significant
>>amount.
>>
>Until the LEFT wingnut hacks got a hold of this counrty. Now the US
Btw..I corrected it for accuracy.
Gunner
"In the history of mankind, there have always been men and women who's goal
in life is to take down nations. We have just elected such a man to run our
country." - David Lloyyd (2008)
wrote:
>>
>>It used to be a decent place to live..and he is leaving after nearly 40
>>yrs in that house. He and I built it...and its georgious, on acreage.
>>And a doublewide in a park in So. Cal sells for more by a significant
>>amount.
>>
>of A will never be the same.
>
>Pitty.
Pity you cant spell either
>
>Pitty.
Btw..I corrected it for accuracy.
Gunner
"In the history of mankind, there have always been men and women who's goal
in life is to take down nations. We have just elected such a man to run our
country." - David Lloyyd (2008)
Gunner Asch
Oct 16, 2011, 12:17:20 AM10/16/11
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On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 21:41:26 -0400, Home Guy <Ho...@Guy.com> wrote:
>Allen Drake wrote:
>
>> Until the right wingnut hacks got a hold of this counrty. Now the US
>> of A will never be the same.
>>
>> Pitty.
>
>That's what you get for electing a borderline mentally handicapped
>person (Bill Clinton) for your president. Twice no less.
>Allen Drake wrote:
>
>> Until the right wingnut hacks got a hold of this counrty. Now the US
>> of A will never be the same.
>>
>> Pitty.
>
>That's what you get for electing a borderline mentally handicapped
Corrected for accuracy.
Existential Angst
Oct 16, 2011, 1:19:19 AM10/16/11
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"RickH" <pass...@windcrestsoftware.com> wrote in message
news:8df42b97-0782-4aeb...@n18g2000vbv.googlegroups.com...
=================================================
Well, these were all sizable cities, so bowling shouldn't be a problem. :)
Sure, an individual has to sleuth specifics, but cheap, low crime, good
schools is a good basic beginning.
Makes more sense to me than NYeffingCity, where a 500 sq ft studio costs
$500,000, just to be cool, and near Robert fuknDeNiro.
--
EA
news:8df42b97-0782-4aeb...@n18g2000vbv.googlegroups.com...
Well, these were all sizable cities, so bowling shouldn't be a problem. :)
Sure, an individual has to sleuth specifics, but cheap, low crime, good
schools is a good basic beginning.
Makes more sense to me than NYeffingCity, where a 500 sq ft studio costs
$500,000, just to be cool, and near Robert fuknDeNiro.
--
EA
Allen Drake
Oct 16, 2011, 4:07:14 AM10/16/11
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On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 21:16:37 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Ya. I forgot that Clinton got the blow job that brought the whole
county to it's knees.
Whaahahhahahaa........
Just like a wingnut to blame everyone else for starting two wars
based on lies that got more Americans killed then all terrorist acts
combined.
wrote:
county to it's knees.
Whaahahhahahaa........
Just like a wingnut to blame everyone else for starting two wars
based on lies that got more Americans killed then all terrorist acts
combined.
HeyBub
Oct 16, 2011, 6:58:50 AM10/16/11
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Community Reinvestment Act, originally passed under the Carter
administration and greatly expanded in 1995 under Clinton.
This act, and its implementation, was the single greatest cause of the
housing crisis.
Grumpy
Oct 16, 2011, 8:00:44 AM10/16/11
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Did it ever occur to anyone on this newsgroup that there are a LOT of places
outside of the US that aregood places to live?
Places where you don't have crackheads and gangs hanging on every corner.
The place is stuffed. get out of it and join the real world. Half your
population dont vote and you get the politicians you deserve as a result. Go
to the polls and turf them out if you don't like them. Don't waste bandwidth
whining about it on a newsgroup dedicated to metalworking,
"Allen Drake" <ALD...@Spamex.com> wrote in message
news:uaak971ou0lei1d0f...@4ax.com...
outside of the US that aregood places to live?
Places where you don't have crackheads and gangs hanging on every corner.
The place is stuffed. get out of it and join the real world. Half your
population dont vote and you get the politicians you deserve as a result. Go
to the polls and turf them out if you don't like them. Don't waste bandwidth
whining about it on a newsgroup dedicated to metalworking,
"Allen Drake" <ALD...@Spamex.com> wrote in message
news:uaak971ou0lei1d0f...@4ax.com...
Allen Drake
Oct 16, 2011, 8:11:27 AM10/16/11
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 23:00:44 +1100, "Grumpy" <tomi...@melbpc.org.au>
wrote:
>Did it ever occur to anyone on this newsgroup that there are a LOT of places
>outside of the US that aregood places to live?
>Places where you don't have crackheads and gangs hanging on every corner.
>The place is stuffed. get out of it and join the real world. Half your
>population dont vote and you get the politicians you deserve as a result. Go
>to the polls and turf them out if you don't like them. Don't waste bandwidth
>whining about it on a newsgroup dedicated to metalworking,
>
You will never learn of nice places around the world. The USA is all
about hate and lies that will always make it seem like the world
revolves around America and every place else is meaningless. Americans
are the greatest race of people on the planet. The right is in the
process of saving the universe from the left wing socialist commie pot
smoking baby killing Godless outcasts and Bush was the greatest leader
the world has ever known. I wonder who can ever fill his shoes. Maybe
Cain or Perry or Romney or Palin or any of the rest of those clueless
wing nuts can manage to funnel the rest of the money to the top 2%.
wrote:
>Did it ever occur to anyone on this newsgroup that there are a LOT of places
>outside of the US that aregood places to live?
>Places where you don't have crackheads and gangs hanging on every corner.
>The place is stuffed. get out of it and join the real world. Half your
>population dont vote and you get the politicians you deserve as a result. Go
>to the polls and turf them out if you don't like them. Don't waste bandwidth
>whining about it on a newsgroup dedicated to metalworking,
>
about hate and lies that will always make it seem like the world
revolves around America and every place else is meaningless. Americans
are the greatest race of people on the planet. The right is in the
process of saving the universe from the left wing socialist commie pot
smoking baby killing Godless outcasts and Bush was the greatest leader
the world has ever known. I wonder who can ever fill his shoes. Maybe
Cain or Perry or Romney or Palin or any of the rest of those clueless
wing nuts can manage to funnel the rest of the money to the top 2%.
George
Oct 16, 2011, 8:54:51 AM10/16/11
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On 10/14/2011 8:46 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:12:45 -0400, "Existential Angst"
> <fit...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>> http://money.msn.com/saving-money/10-best-places-to-live-cheaply-forbes.aspx?cp-documentid=6855877>1=33026
>>
>> The first listing, Sandusky, Ohio, gives the articles sources.
>>
>> Michigan, Ohio, Indiana seem to dominate -- haven't checked the geography,
>> but mebbe all close to mfr'g towns? Elkhart, Indiana f'sure.
>> But Cumberland, Md-W. Va (not dat far from me) was a bit of a surprise --
>> altho anything with W. Va. could explain "cheap".
>>
>> I thought Tennessee might be in there (TVA), and KY, but apparently lots of
>> retirees are flocking there, running up prices. And with smaller mosquitoes
>> than in Florida....
>>
>> Note the relatively high crime rate in Fairbanks, about 6x Elkhart, Ind.
>> Most in the middle.
>>
>> And the other Q is, Are these place also good for a bidniss??
>> Food fer thought.
>
> Given that Michigan, California and Illinois are the top 3 WORST
> economic basketcase states........
Which might be perfect for the OPs "bidness" because as an example there
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:12:45 -0400, "Existential Angst"
> <fit...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>> http://money.msn.com/saving-money/10-best-places-to-live-cheaply-forbes.aspx?cp-documentid=6855877>1=33026
>>
>> The first listing, Sandusky, Ohio, gives the articles sources.
>>
>> Michigan, Ohio, Indiana seem to dominate -- haven't checked the geography,
>> but mebbe all close to mfr'g towns? Elkhart, Indiana f'sure.
>> But Cumberland, Md-W. Va (not dat far from me) was a bit of a surprise --
>> altho anything with W. Va. could explain "cheap".
>>
>> I thought Tennessee might be in there (TVA), and KY, but apparently lots of
>> retirees are flocking there, running up prices. And with smaller mosquitoes
>> than in Florida....
>>
>> Note the relatively high crime rate in Fairbanks, about 6x Elkhart, Ind.
>> Most in the middle.
>>
>> And the other Q is, Are these place also good for a bidniss??
>> Food fer thought.
>
> Given that Michigan, California and Illinois are the top 3 WORST
> economic basketcase states........
might be an experienced pool of workers. But since they gave absolutely
no details who knows?
> My dad has his house up for sale in Michigan. Grayling Michigan.
>
> The town is dying.
Home Guy
Oct 16, 2011, 9:08:56 AM10/16/11
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HeyBub wrote:
> > How did Bush's push for increased home-ownership rates pan out?
>
> Bush never pushed for greater home ownership rates.
Why do you lie?
> > How did Bush's push for increased home-ownership rates pan out?
>
> Bush never pushed for greater home ownership rates.
============
Bush seeks to increase minority homeownership
http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/housing/2004-01-20-fha_x.htm
Posted 1/20/2004 1:31 AM
Bush seeks to increase minority homeownership
By Thomas A. Fogarty, USA TODAY
In a bid to boost minority homeownership, President Bush will ask
Congress for authority to eliminate the down-payment requirement for
Federal Housing Administration loans.
============
YouTube - Home Ownership and President Bush
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNqQx7sjoS8
Jack Rabbit
Oct 16, 2011, 10:19:40 AM10/16/11
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would normally qualify for mortgages could not be denied a mortgage
just because they lived in a redlined area, being an area that a
lender had arbitrarily decided that they would automatically refuse.
lenders still had to verify that the loan where economically valid.
Home Guy
Oct 16, 2011, 10:49:42 AM10/16/11
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Home Guy wrote:
> ============
> Bush seeks to increase minority homeownership
> http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/housing/2004-01-20-fha_x.htm
> ============
> Bush seeks to increase minority homeownership
> http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/housing/2004-01-20-fha_x.htm
> ============
>
> YouTube - Home Ownership and President Bush
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNqQx7sjoS8
See also:
>
> YouTube - Home Ownership and President Bush
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNqQx7sjoS8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wASFRavojBY
Michael A. Terrell
Oct 16, 2011, 2:33:56 PM10/16/11
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Allen Drake wrote:
>
> You will never learn of nice places around the world. The USA is all
> about hate and lies that will always make it seem like the world
> revolves around America and every place else is meaningless. Americans
> are the greatest race of people on the planet. The right is in the
> process of saving the universe from the left wing socialist commie pot
> smoking baby killing Godless outcasts and Bush was the greatest leader
> the world has ever known. I wonder who can ever fill his shoes. Maybe
> Cain or Perry or Romney or Palin or any of the rest of those clueless
> wing nuts can manage to funnel the rest of the money to the top 2%.
I've seen is that you have a bad case of PMS.
--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
Allen Drake
Oct 16, 2011, 4:02:22 PM10/16/11
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Gunner Asch
Oct 16, 2011, 4:11:55 PM10/16/11
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 04:07:14 -0400, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
impeachment.
Was there some reason you wished to mention those? Stupidity on your
part perhaps?
Odd. Now about Libya, Afghanistan and now the Sudan....are you calling
the Obamassiah a a wingnut too?
Gunner
wrote:
>On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 21:16:37 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 20:47:28 -0400, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>>It used to be a decent place to live..and he is leaving after nearly 40
>>>>yrs in that house. He and I built it...and its georgious, on acreage.
>>>>And a doublewide in a park in So. Cal sells for more by a significant
>>>>amount.
>>>>
>>>Until the LEFT wingnut hacks got a hold of this counrty. Now the US
>>>of A will never be the same.
>>>
>>>Pitty.
>>
>>Pity you cant spell either
>>
>>Btw..I corrected it for accuracy.
>>
>>Gunner
>>
>>"In the history of mankind, there have always been men and women who's goal
>>in life is to take down nations. We have just elected such a man to run our
>>country." - David Lloyyd (2008)
>
>
> Ya. I forgot that Clinton got the blow job that brought the whole
>county to it's knees.
>
> Whaahahhahahaa........
What..I dont recall the Clinton Lies ever being mentioned here. Nor his
>On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 21:16:37 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 20:47:28 -0400, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>>It used to be a decent place to live..and he is leaving after nearly 40
>>>>yrs in that house. He and I built it...and its georgious, on acreage.
>>>>And a doublewide in a park in So. Cal sells for more by a significant
>>>>amount.
>>>>
>>>Until the LEFT wingnut hacks got a hold of this counrty. Now the US
>>>of A will never be the same.
>>>
>>>Pitty.
>>
>>Pity you cant spell either
>>
>>Btw..I corrected it for accuracy.
>>
>>Gunner
>>
>>"In the history of mankind, there have always been men and women who's goal
>>in life is to take down nations. We have just elected such a man to run our
>>country." - David Lloyyd (2008)
>
>
> Ya. I forgot that Clinton got the blow job that brought the whole
>county to it's knees.
>
> Whaahahhahahaa........
impeachment.
Was there some reason you wished to mention those? Stupidity on your
part perhaps?
>
>Just like a wingnut to blame everyone else for starting two wars
>based on lies that got more Americans killed then all terrorist acts
>combined.
So JFK and LBJ were wingnuts?
>Just like a wingnut to blame everyone else for starting two wars
>based on lies that got more Americans killed then all terrorist acts
>combined.
Odd. Now about Libya, Afghanistan and now the Sudan....are you calling
the Obamassiah a a wingnut too?
Gunner
Gunner Asch
Oct 16, 2011, 4:13:27 PM10/16/11
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>Did it ever occur to anyone on this newsgroup that there are a LOT of places
>outside of the US that aregood places to live?
>Places where you don't have crackheads and gangs hanging on every corner.
>The place is stuffed. get out of it and join the real world. Half your
>population dont vote and you get the politicians you deserve as a result. Go
>to the polls and turf them out if you don't like them. Don't waste bandwidth
>whining about it on a newsgroup dedicated to metalworking,
>
Sure it has occured to thinking people.
>outside of the US that aregood places to live?
>Places where you don't have crackheads and gangs hanging on every corner.
>The place is stuffed. get out of it and join the real world. Half your
>population dont vote and you get the politicians you deserve as a result. Go
>to the polls and turf them out if you don't like them. Don't waste bandwidth
>whining about it on a newsgroup dedicated to metalworking,
>
However there are thousands of places INSIDE the US that are good places
to live as well.
Now about Oz....its certainly better than the UK..but its hardly all
that good.
Gunner
Gunner Asch
Oct 16, 2011, 4:14:58 PM10/16/11
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 08:11:27 -0400, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
wrote:
So you you are in a park someplace protesting and shitting in a plastic
bag?
Sucks to be you. Gonna be hanging around when the snow falls?
Laugh laugh laugh!!
This is gonna be fun to watch when winter sets in....<VBG>
Gunner
wrote:
bag?
Sucks to be you. Gonna be hanging around when the snow falls?
Laugh laugh laugh!!
This is gonna be fun to watch when winter sets in....<VBG>
Gunner
Gunner Asch
Oct 16, 2011, 4:15:54 PM10/16/11
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 08:54:51 -0400, George <geo...@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
>On 10/14/2011 8:46 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:12:45 -0400, "Existential Angst"
>> <fit...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>>> http://money.msn.com/saving-money/10-best-places-to-live-cheaply-forbes.aspx?cp-documentid=6855877>1=33026
>>>
>>> The first listing, Sandusky, Ohio, gives the articles sources.
>>>
>>> Michigan, Ohio, Indiana seem to dominate -- haven't checked the geography,
>>> but mebbe all close to mfr'g towns? Elkhart, Indiana f'sure.
>>> But Cumberland, Md-W. Va (not dat far from me) was a bit of a surprise --
>>> altho anything with W. Va. could explain "cheap".
>>>
>>> I thought Tennessee might be in there (TVA), and KY, but apparently lots of
>>> retirees are flocking there, running up prices. And with smaller mosquitoes
>>> than in Florida....
>>>
>>> Note the relatively high crime rate in Fairbanks, about 6x Elkhart, Ind.
>>> Most in the middle.
>>>
>>> And the other Q is, Are these place also good for a bidniss??
>>> Food fer thought.
>>
>> Given that Michigan, California and Illinois are the top 3 WORST
>> economic basketcase states........
>
>
>Which might be perfect for the OPs "bidness" because as an example there
>might be an experienced pool of workers. But since they gave absolutely
>no details who knows?
>
>> My dad has his house up for sale in Michigan. Grayling Michigan.
>>
>> The town is dying.
>
>Places have died and places are reborn.
Yes indeed.
Too bad the time frame between revivals tends to be decades long.
wrote:
>On 10/14/2011 8:46 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:12:45 -0400, "Existential Angst"
>> <fit...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>>> http://money.msn.com/saving-money/10-best-places-to-live-cheaply-forbes.aspx?cp-documentid=6855877>1=33026
>>>
>>> The first listing, Sandusky, Ohio, gives the articles sources.
>>>
>>> Michigan, Ohio, Indiana seem to dominate -- haven't checked the geography,
>>> but mebbe all close to mfr'g towns? Elkhart, Indiana f'sure.
>>> But Cumberland, Md-W. Va (not dat far from me) was a bit of a surprise --
>>> altho anything with W. Va. could explain "cheap".
>>>
>>> I thought Tennessee might be in there (TVA), and KY, but apparently lots of
>>> retirees are flocking there, running up prices. And with smaller mosquitoes
>>> than in Florida....
>>>
>>> Note the relatively high crime rate in Fairbanks, about 6x Elkhart, Ind.
>>> Most in the middle.
>>>
>>> And the other Q is, Are these place also good for a bidniss??
>>> Food fer thought.
>>
>> Given that Michigan, California and Illinois are the top 3 WORST
>> economic basketcase states........
>
>
>Which might be perfect for the OPs "bidness" because as an example there
>might be an experienced pool of workers. But since they gave absolutely
>no details who knows?
>
>> My dad has his house up for sale in Michigan. Grayling Michigan.
>>
>> The town is dying.
>
>Places have died and places are reborn.
Too bad the time frame between revivals tends to be decades long.
Allen Drake
Oct 16, 2011, 5:01:44 PM10/16/11
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:14:58 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
There you go again with more lies. This is all you tards know how to
do. Posting with your head up your ass again hey Gummer?
do. Posting with your head up your ass again hey Gummer?
Allen Drake
Oct 16, 2011, 5:07:28 PM10/16/11
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:11:55 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
Clinton lying about his personal life got no one killed. Who cares
about Clinton's personal affairs? He is still more popular then Bush
the war Criminal.
Obama got Bin Laden and Quadaffi and countless other terrorists while
Bush admitted he stopped caring a long time ago.
It must really suck to be you Gummer.
about Clinton's personal affairs? He is still more popular then Bush
the war Criminal.
Obama got Bin Laden and Quadaffi and countless other terrorists while
Bush admitted he stopped caring a long time ago.
It must really suck to be you Gummer.
Michael A. Terrell
Oct 16, 2011, 6:40:36 PM10/16/11
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Allen Drake wrote:
>
> Capitulation accepted.
Congratulations! Your DIY lobotomy with a rusty pocket knife was
100% a success.
Allen Drake
Oct 16, 2011, 6:55:46 PM10/16/11
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:40:36 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>Allen Drake wrote:
>>
>> Capitulation accepted.
>
>
> Congratulations! Your DIY lobotomy with a rusty pocket knife was
>100% a success.
Grow a brain winger.
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>Allen Drake wrote:
>>
>> Capitulation accepted.
>
>
> Congratulations! Your DIY lobotomy with a rusty pocket knife was
>100% a success.
Michael A. Terrell
Oct 16, 2011, 6:59:40 PM10/16/11
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The Daring Dufas
Oct 16, 2011, 8:48:20 PM10/16/11
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activities of The Clintons dying all the time.
THE CLINTON BODY-COUNT:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.html
TDD
The Daring Dufas
Oct 16, 2011, 8:53:48 PM10/16/11
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awful, why do people keep moving here from other countries? It's very
puzzling to me a native born American who's ancestors came from all
over the planet. Why come to this so called horrible country? ^_^
TDD
The Daring Dufas
Oct 16, 2011, 8:58:57 PM10/16/11
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cold climates. I'm sure The Obama Administration would allow foreign
aid workers to help the protesters survive the winter. ^_^
TDD
Gunner Asch
Oct 17, 2011, 12:37:08 AM10/17/11
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 17:07:28 -0400, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
wrote:
>>
dress. You must have been just a drip down your mommas leg during the
Clinton Administration.
http://www.fff.org/comment/ed0699c.asp
So you dont remember Yugoslavia, the Sadan, Kosovo, the Baltics in
general, Somalia, Afghanistan and a host of other places he put troops
to die in?
You most certainly ARE a stupid motherfucker and saying that for a
leftwinger..most certainly means you couldnt pour piss out of a boot
with instructions on the heels.
so by the Hildabeast and her compadre Panneta.
Google...Hillary Forces Obama to get bin ladin
3.6 MILLION hits
>
> It must really suck to be you Gummer.
Not as much as it obviously sucks to be your family members...
Laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh!!!!!
Gunner
wrote:
>>
>>What..I dont recall the Clinton Lies ever being mentioned here. Nor his
>>impeachment.
>>
>>Was there some reason you wished to mention those? Stupidity on your
>>part perhaps?
>>>
>>>Just like a wingnut to blame everyone else for starting two wars
>>>based on lies that got more Americans killed then all terrorist acts
>>>combined.
>>
>>So JFK and LBJ were wingnuts?
>>
>>Odd. Now about Libya, Afghanistan and now the Sudan....are you calling
>>the Obamassiah a a wingnut too?
>>
>>Gunner
>
> Clinton lying about his personal life got no one killed. Who cares
>about Clinton's personal affairs? He is still more popular then Bush
>the war Criminal.
Personal Life? I wasnt talking bout his personal life..or his stained
>>impeachment.
>>
>>Was there some reason you wished to mention those? Stupidity on your
>>part perhaps?
>>>
>>>Just like a wingnut to blame everyone else for starting two wars
>>>based on lies that got more Americans killed then all terrorist acts
>>>combined.
>>
>>So JFK and LBJ were wingnuts?
>>
>>Odd. Now about Libya, Afghanistan and now the Sudan....are you calling
>>the Obamassiah a a wingnut too?
>>
>>Gunner
>
> Clinton lying about his personal life got no one killed. Who cares
>about Clinton's personal affairs? He is still more popular then Bush
>the war Criminal.
dress. You must have been just a drip down your mommas leg during the
Clinton Administration.
http://www.fff.org/comment/ed0699c.asp
So you dont remember Yugoslavia, the Sadan, Kosovo, the Baltics in
general, Somalia, Afghanistan and a host of other places he put troops
to die in?
You most certainly ARE a stupid motherfucker and saying that for a
leftwinger..most certainly means you couldnt pour piss out of a boot
with instructions on the heels.
>
>Obama got Bin Laden and Quadaffi and countless other terrorists while
>Bush admitted he stopped caring a long time ago.
ROFLMAO...Obamus didnt WANT to get either of them..and was forced to do
>Obama got Bin Laden and Quadaffi and countless other terrorists while
>Bush admitted he stopped caring a long time ago.
so by the Hildabeast and her compadre Panneta.
Google...Hillary Forces Obama to get bin ladin
3.6 MILLION hits
>
> It must really suck to be you Gummer.
Laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh!!!!!
Gunner
Gunner Asch
Oct 17, 2011, 12:38:50 AM10/17/11
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:55:46 -0400, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
wrote:
>Should I Grow a brain, winger?
No..dont bother. You have managed to survive this long and since the
Great Cull is just around the corner..there is no sense in you making
the effort just to have it blown out.
wrote:
No..dont bother. You have managed to survive this long and since the
Great Cull is just around the corner..there is no sense in you making
the effort just to have it blown out.
Gunner Asch
Oct 17, 2011, 12:40:29 AM10/17/11
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 17:01:44 -0400, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
What lies? Hummmm? Gonna freeze your ass off squatting on a porta
pottie in DC or some other place?
Laugh laugh laugh..you will be back in your mommas basement the first
time the frost sets in.
Fucking wienie Leftwingers....dumb as dirt and have zero staying power
if they are uncomfortable.
Gunner
pottie in DC or some other place?
Laugh laugh laugh..you will be back in your mommas basement the first
time the frost sets in.
Fucking wienie Leftwingers....dumb as dirt and have zero staying power
if they are uncomfortable.
Gunner
Jack Rabbit
Oct 17, 2011, 2:25:10 AM10/17/11
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On Oct 17, 12:40 pm, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 17:01:44 -0400, Allen Drake <ALDr...@Spamex.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:14:58 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com>
> >wrote:
>
> >>On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 08:11:27 -0400, Allen Drake <ALDr...@Spamex.com>
> >>wrote:
>
> >>>On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 23:00:44 +1100, "Grumpy" <tomil...@melbpc.org.au>
pretty funny to see a deadbeat like gumbo being so servile in defense
of people who would never want to have anything to do with him, even
if he has delusions of it.
> On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 17:01:44 -0400, Allen Drake <ALDr...@Spamex.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:14:58 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com>
> >wrote:
>
> >>On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 08:11:27 -0400, Allen Drake <ALDr...@Spamex.com>
> >>wrote:
>
> >>>On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 23:00:44 +1100, "Grumpy" <tomil...@melbpc.org.au>
of people who would never want to have anything to do with him, even
if he has delusions of it.
Allen Drake
Oct 17, 2011, 3:58:22 AM10/17/11
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Running from what Bush did that is still affecting the nation and
world is something you nutters will be doing forever. Get over it
foo........
Allen Drake
Oct 17, 2011, 4:01:20 AM10/17/11
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 21:37:08 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I have been around longer then you have little man. No one forced
Obama to do anything. You nut jobs will believe anything.
wrote:
Obama to do anything. You nut jobs will believe anything.
Allen Drake
Oct 17, 2011, 4:02:06 AM10/17/11
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:59:40 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>Allen Drake wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:40:36 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>> <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Allen Drake wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Capitulation accepted.
>> >
>> >
>> > Congratulations! Your DIY lobotomy with a rusty pocket knife was
>> >100% a success.
>>
>> Grow a brain winger.
>
>
> Yawn. Practice what you preach.
Post back when you have a clue.
>
>Allen Drake wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:40:36 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>> <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Allen Drake wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Capitulation accepted.
>> >
>> >
>> > Congratulations! Your DIY lobotomy with a rusty pocket knife was
>> >100% a success.
>>
>> Grow a brain winger.
>
>
> Yawn. Practice what you preach.
Allen Drake
Oct 17, 2011, 4:06:10 AM10/17/11
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 21:40:29 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
As usual you have no idea what you are talking about but keep trying.
Running and trying to divert from the truth that you wingers ran this
county into the ditch is all you have.
Must suck to be as clueless as you.
Running and trying to divert from the truth that you wingers ran this
county into the ditch is all you have.
Must suck to be as clueless as you.
Michael A. Terrell
Oct 17, 2011, 5:39:23 AM10/17/11
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Allen Drake wrote:
>
> On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:59:40 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
> <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >Allen Drake wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:40:36 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
> >> <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >Allen Drake wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Capitulation accepted.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Congratulations! Your DIY lobotomy with a rusty pocket knife was
> >> >100% a success.
> >>
> >> Grow a brain winger.
> >
> >
> > Yawn. Practice what you preach.
>
> Post back when you have a clue.
doubt that you have anything other than your pink toolkit, with soft
handles that was made for women.
Michael A. Terrell
Oct 17, 2011, 5:44:18 AM10/17/11
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hose them down.
> Laugh laugh laugh..you will be back in your mommas basement the first
> time the frost sets in.
> Fucking wienie Leftwingers....dumb as dirt and have zero staying power
> if they are uncomfortable.
pyotr filipivich
Oct 17, 2011, 2:01:04 PM10/17/11
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Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:11:55 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
And Uganda. They told me a vote for McCain would mean US troops
deployed into countries all over the world - and they were right!
tschus
pyotr
--
pyotr
Go not to the Net for answers, for it will tell you Yes and no. And
you are a bloody fool, only an ignorant cretin would even ask the
question, forty two, 47, the second door, and how many blonde lawyers
does it take to change a lightbulb.
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
deployed into countries all over the world - and they were right!
tschus
pyotr
--
pyotr
Go not to the Net for answers, for it will tell you Yes and no. And
you are a bloody fool, only an ignorant cretin would even ask the
question, forty two, 47, the second door, and how many blonde lawyers
does it take to change a lightbulb.
Allen Drake
Oct 17, 2011, 3:38:21 PM10/17/11
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 05:39:23 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
My post was all about the loss of many of those jobs due to the total
failures of the previous administration. So far the only responses I
have seen are diversions and denial but facts are facts no matter what
happened in the past. The republican administration left this country
in the biggest mess since the great depression. No matter how much
Clinton lied or anything done by him or anyone the facts will never
change.
It must suck to be a rightWingNut still defending Bush.
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>Allen Drake wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:59:40 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>> <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Allen Drake wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:40:36 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>> >> <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >Allen Drake wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Capitulation accepted.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Congratulations! Your DIY lobotomy with a rusty pocket knife was
>> >> >100% a success.
>> >>
>> >> Grow a brain winger.
>> >
>> >
>> > Yawn. Practice what you preach.
>>
>> Post back when you have a clue.
>
>
> About what? Do you have a drill press, lathe or milling machine? I
>doubt that you have anything other than your pink toolkit, with soft
>handles that was made for women.
I have been a machinist for over 40 years and am still going strong.
>
>Allen Drake wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:59:40 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>> <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Allen Drake wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:40:36 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>> >> <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >Allen Drake wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Capitulation accepted.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Congratulations! Your DIY lobotomy with a rusty pocket knife was
>> >> >100% a success.
>> >>
>> >> Grow a brain winger.
>> >
>> >
>> > Yawn. Practice what you preach.
>>
>> Post back when you have a clue.
>
>
> About what? Do you have a drill press, lathe or milling machine? I
>doubt that you have anything other than your pink toolkit, with soft
>handles that was made for women.
My post was all about the loss of many of those jobs due to the total
failures of the previous administration. So far the only responses I
have seen are diversions and denial but facts are facts no matter what
happened in the past. The republican administration left this country
in the biggest mess since the great depression. No matter how much
Clinton lied or anything done by him or anyone the facts will never
change.
It must suck to be a rightWingNut still defending Bush.
Gunner Asch
Oct 17, 2011, 3:56:00 PM10/17/11
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 03:58:22 -0400, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
Actually..It IS a reliable source.
<VBG>
Sucks to be you.
> Running from what Bush did that is still affecting the nation and
>world is something you nutters will be doing forever. Get over it
>foo........
Sudden direction change? Do you have ADHD or are you suddenly trying to
change the subject?
I vote for both.
Gunner
<VBG>
Sucks to be you.
> Running from what Bush did that is still affecting the nation and
>world is something you nutters will be doing forever. Get over it
>foo........
change the subject?
I vote for both.
Gunner
Gunner Asch
Oct 17, 2011, 3:57:30 PM10/17/11
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 04:01:20 -0400, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
Around longer than me? Around the Blue Oyster Bar perhaps...snicker
It appears that you will claim anything erronious that makes your
Obamassiah look like he can actually tie his own shoes..despite
overwhelming evidence against it.
Typical Leftwinger..mentally ill and utterly stupid.
Your death will be glorious!
It appears that you will claim anything erronious that makes your
Obamassiah look like he can actually tie his own shoes..despite
overwhelming evidence against it.
Typical Leftwinger..mentally ill and utterly stupid.
Your death will be glorious!
Gunner Asch
Oct 17, 2011, 3:58:58 PM10/17/11
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 04:06:10 -0400, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
Must suck to be a lying Leftwinger as you have shown yourself to be.
Biased, bigoted, racist, bullshiter and buffoon..you cover them all.
<VBG>
Gunner
Biased, bigoted, racist, bullshiter and buffoon..you cover them all.
<VBG>
Gunner
Michael A. Terrell
Oct 17, 2011, 4:06:04 PM10/17/11
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Allen Drake wrote:
>
> I have been a machinist for over 40 years and am still going strong.
> My post was all about the loss of many of those jobs due to the total
> failures of the previous administration. So far the only responses I
> have seen are diversions and denial but facts are facts no matter what
> happened in the past. The republican administration left this country
> in the biggest mess since the great depression. No matter how much
> Clinton lied or anything done by him or anyone the facts will never
> change.
>
> It must suck to be a rightWingNut still defending Bush.
Jon Elson
Oct 17, 2011, 5:26:40 PM10/17/11
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On 10/14/2011 06:32 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> Move to Misery? Mebbe not!
> Missouriably hot in the summer.
> Missouriably cold in the winter.
> Missouriably humid alla time.
> It's in Tornado Alley. http://goo.gl/Ifthi
> Watch out for the lead. http://goo.gl/BpcYi
Well, tornadoes are really small phenomena, except maybe
for Xenia Ohio. We've had a few, they really didn't do
ALL that much damage, compared to a hurricane, for instance.
The only lead is in Herculaneum, where they either built the biggest
smelter in the US in the center of town, or the town grew up around
the smelter. That IS a messy situation, the whole town is covered
in lead dust. But, it is only that town that is affected.
Hot? Yeah, it does get warm here, but nothing like south Texas
in August, which I've been sent to a few times.
Cold? Not really, we barely even have snow here any more! 30 years
ago we used to have a fair bit of snow in the winter.
Humid? Well, yes it does get a bit humid, but I haven't really seen
it all that different across the middle of the US. Yes, it is drier
in Arizona, but the summers there are not so good.
So, it suits me pretty well here! And, I've been running a
manufacturing business in my house for over 25 years, at two
locations. My current location requires a business license, but it
only costs me $25 or $35 a year, depending on gross sales the previous
year. Oh yeah, I had to renew my fictitious name registration with the
state a few years ago, it is not the awesome amount of something like
$4 every decade!
Seems pretty business-friendly to me. (Maybe I should keep my mouth
shut about this , lest every home business type move in and wreck the
advantage.)
Jon
> Move to Misery? Mebbe not!
> Missouriably hot in the summer.
> Missouriably cold in the winter.
> Missouriably humid alla time.
> It's in Tornado Alley. http://goo.gl/Ifthi
> Watch out for the lead. http://goo.gl/BpcYi
Well, tornadoes are really small phenomena, except maybe
for Xenia Ohio. We've had a few, they really didn't do
ALL that much damage, compared to a hurricane, for instance.
The only lead is in Herculaneum, where they either built the biggest
smelter in the US in the center of town, or the town grew up around
the smelter. That IS a messy situation, the whole town is covered
in lead dust. But, it is only that town that is affected.
Hot? Yeah, it does get warm here, but nothing like south Texas
in August, which I've been sent to a few times.
Cold? Not really, we barely even have snow here any more! 30 years
ago we used to have a fair bit of snow in the winter.
Humid? Well, yes it does get a bit humid, but I haven't really seen
it all that different across the middle of the US. Yes, it is drier
in Arizona, but the summers there are not so good.
So, it suits me pretty well here! And, I've been running a
manufacturing business in my house for over 25 years, at two
locations. My current location requires a business license, but it
only costs me $25 or $35 a year, depending on gross sales the previous
year. Oh yeah, I had to renew my fictitious name registration with the
state a few years ago, it is not the awesome amount of something like
$4 every decade!
Seems pretty business-friendly to me. (Maybe I should keep my mouth
shut about this , lest every home business type move in and wreck the
advantage.)
Jon
Jon Elson
Oct 17, 2011, 5:27:42 PM10/17/11
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On 10/14/2011 07:35 AM, Karl Townsend wrote:
>
> Moved to MN for only one year. Then I met a lady, and I'm still here
> 35 years later. Neither of us like the long winter,so we are part of
> the snowbird population (to the FL keys) . Now we got the best of
> both.
Well, with a big machine shop in the basement, the snowbird thing won't
work for me.
Jon
>
> Moved to MN for only one year. Then I met a lady, and I'm still here
> 35 years later. Neither of us like the long winter,so we are part of
> the snowbird population (to the FL keys) . Now we got the best of
> both.
Well, with a big machine shop in the basement, the snowbird thing won't
work for me.
Jon
Michael A. Terrell
Oct 17, 2011, 5:45:44 PM10/17/11
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Jon Elson wrote:
>
> On 10/14/2011 06:32 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
> ? Missouriably hot in the summer.
> ? Missouriably cold in the winter.
> ? Missouriably humid alla time.
> ? It's in Tornado Alley. http://goo.gl/Ifthi
> ? Watch out for the lead. http://goo.gl/BpcYi
>
> Well, tornadoes are really small phenomena, except maybe
> for Xenia Ohio.
Which Xenia tornado? I was stationed in Alaska when one hit in '73
> Well, tornadoes are really small phenomena, except maybe
> for Xenia Ohio.
or '74, and the news story stated that a Large steel making town in SW
Ohio was badly damaged. That would have been Middletown, where I had
relatives and phone service was out for almost a week before I could
contact them. They told me that a heat treating plant in Xenia was badly
damaged, not a steel mill. #@$%^&*()_ STUPID MSM!
Michael A. Terrell
Oct 17, 2011, 5:46:48 PM10/17/11
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Jon Elson wrote:
>
> On 10/14/2011 07:35 AM, Karl Townsend wrote:
> ? Moved to MN for only one year. Then I met a lady, and I'm still here
> ? 35 years later. Neither of us like the long winter,so we are part of
> ? the snowbird population (to the FL keys) . Now we got the best of
> ? both.
> Well, with a big machine shop in the basement, the snowbird thing won't
> work for me.
Think outside the box. You need a WINTER machine shop. ;-)
> work for me.
Gunner Asch
Oct 17, 2011, 5:59:41 PM10/17/11
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 04:06:10 -0400, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
wrote:
>>>>
>Running and trying to divert from the truth that we wingers ran this
>county into the ditch is all we have.
>
>Must suck to be as clueless as me.
Oh Im sure it does.
<VBG>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>>So you you are in a park someplace protesting and shitting in a plastic
>>>>bag?
>>>>
>>>>Sucks to be you. Gonna be hanging around when the snow falls?
>>>>
>>>>Laugh laugh laugh!!
>>>>
>>>>This is gonna be fun to watch when winter sets in....<VBG>
>>>>
>>>>Gunner
>>>
>>> There you go again with more lies. This is all you tards know how to
>>>do. Posting with your head up your ass again hey Gummer?
>>
>>What lies? Hummmm? Gonna freeze your ass off squatting on a porta
>>pottie in DC or some other place?
>>
>>Laugh laugh laugh..you will be back in your mommas basement the first
>>time the frost sets in.
>>
>>Fucking wienie Leftwingers....dumb as dirt and have zero staying power
>>if they are uncomfortable.
>>
>>Gunner
>
> As usual I have no idea what you are talking about but keep trying.
>>>>bag?
>>>>
>>>>Sucks to be you. Gonna be hanging around when the snow falls?
>>>>
>>>>Laugh laugh laugh!!
>>>>
>>>>This is gonna be fun to watch when winter sets in....<VBG>
>>>>
>>>>Gunner
>>>
>>> There you go again with more lies. This is all you tards know how to
>>>do. Posting with your head up your ass again hey Gummer?
>>
>>What lies? Hummmm? Gonna freeze your ass off squatting on a porta
>>pottie in DC or some other place?
>>
>>Laugh laugh laugh..you will be back in your mommas basement the first
>>time the frost sets in.
>>
>>Fucking wienie Leftwingers....dumb as dirt and have zero staying power
>>if they are uncomfortable.
>>
>>Gunner
>
>Running and trying to divert from the truth that we wingers ran this
>county into the ditch is all we have.
>
>Must suck to be as clueless as me.
Oh Im sure it does.
<VBG>
HeyBub
Oct 17, 2011, 6:03:33 PM10/17/11
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Grumpy wrote:
> Did it ever occur to anyone on this newsgroup that there are a LOT of
> places outside of the US that aregood places to live?
> Places where you don't have crackheads and gangs hanging on every
> corner. The place is stuffed. get out of it and join the real world.
> Half your population dont vote and you get the politicians you
> deserve as a result. Go to the polls and turf them out if you don't
> like them. Don't waste bandwidth whining about it on a newsgroup
> dedicated to metalworking,
In the future, when using the word "bandwidth" in a newsgroup post, please
> Did it ever occur to anyone on this newsgroup that there are a LOT of
> places outside of the US that aregood places to live?
> Places where you don't have crackheads and gangs hanging on every
> corner. The place is stuffed. get out of it and join the real world.
> Half your population dont vote and you get the politicians you
> deserve as a result. Go to the polls and turf them out if you don't
> like them. Don't waste bandwidth whining about it on a newsgroup
> dedicated to metalworking,
abbreviate the word as "bndwdth" thereby saving precious bndwdth.
Thnk u
HeyBub
Oct 17, 2011, 6:04:25 PM10/17/11
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Grumpy wrote:
> Did it ever occur to anyone on this newsgroup that there are a LOT of
> places outside of the US that aregood places to live?
> Places where you don't have crackheads and gangs hanging on every
> corner. The place is stuffed. get out of it and join the real world.
> Half your population dont vote and you get the politicians you
> deserve as a result. Go to the polls and turf them out if you don't
> like them. Don't waste bandwidth whining about it on a newsgroup
> dedicated to metalworking,
>
Do you have a suggestion?
> Did it ever occur to anyone on this newsgroup that there are a LOT of
> places outside of the US that aregood places to live?
> Places where you don't have crackheads and gangs hanging on every
> corner. The place is stuffed. get out of it and join the real world.
> Half your population dont vote and you get the politicians you
> deserve as a result. Go to the polls and turf them out if you don't
> like them. Don't waste bandwidth whining about it on a newsgroup
> dedicated to metalworking,
>
Allen Drake
Oct 17, 2011, 6:59:39 PM10/17/11
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:56:00 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
Says you fool. Trying to divert means you agree that the republicans
drove this country into the worst recession since the great
depression. Started two wars that were not paid for and lied about WMD
in Iraq and let Bin Laden go free.
Must suck to be a loser winger hey Gumby?
drove this country into the worst recession since the great
depression. Started two wars that were not paid for and lied about WMD
in Iraq and let Bin Laden go free.
Must suck to be a loser winger hey Gumby?
Allen Drake
Oct 17, 2011, 7:01:23 PM10/17/11
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:57:30 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
Nothing changes the facts that you winger nut jobs brought this
country to where it is now. I am sure you are very proud.
country to where it is now. I am sure you are very proud.
Allen Drake
Oct 17, 2011, 7:03:24 PM10/17/11
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can be specific about what I have posted it inaccurate.
Allen Drake
Oct 17, 2011, 7:05:54 PM10/17/11
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:58:58 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
All you have are lies. I do love it when you melt down Gumby. I have
posted nothing that show I am any of the above. What did I post that
says I am racist? You have nothing little man. Must suck to be mad at
the world Gumby.
posted nothing that show I am any of the above. What did I post that
says I am racist? You have nothing little man. Must suck to be mad at
the world Gumby.
Michael A. Terrell
Oct 17, 2011, 7:19:17 PM10/17/11
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Allen Drake wrote:
>
> On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 16:06:04 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>
> ?
> ?Allen Drake wrote:
> ??
> ?? I have been a machinist for over 40 years and am still going strong.
> ?? My post was all about the loss of many of those jobs due to the total
> ?? failures of the previous administration. So far the only responses I
> ?? have seen are diversions and denial but facts are facts no matter what
> ?? happened in the past. The republican administration left this country
> ?? in the biggest mess since the great depression. No matter how much
> ?? Clinton lied or anything done by him or anyone the facts will never
> ?? change.
> ??
> ?? It must suck to be a rightWingNut still defending Bush.
> ?
> ?
> ? I'm an independent and I'm not defending anyone, moron.
>
> You are the moron here and are defending the republicans unless you
> can be specific about what I have posted it inaccurate.
Show us where I supported anyone, loser.
> You are the moron here and are defending the republicans unless you
> can be specific about what I have posted it inaccurate.
Larry Jaques
Oct 17, 2011, 8:12:12 PM10/17/11
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 16:26:40 -0500, Jon Elson <jme...@wustl.edu>
wrote:
>On 10/14/2011 06:32 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>> Move to Misery? Mebbe not!
>> Missouriably hot in the summer.
>> Missouriably cold in the winter.
>> Missouriably humid alla time.
>> It's in Tornado Alley. http://goo.gl/Ifthi
>> Watch out for the lead. http://goo.gl/BpcYi
>
>Well, tornadoes are really small phenomena, except maybe
>for Xenia Ohio. We've had a few, they really didn't do
>ALL that much damage, compared to a hurricane, for instance.
>
>The only lead is in Herculaneum, where they either built the biggest
>smelter in the US in the center of town, or the town grew up around
>the smelter. That IS a messy situation, the whole town is covered
>in lead dust. But, it is only that town that is affected.
But there were mines everywhere and tailings downstream of everywhere
those were. We have a few of those here, too. Copper, lead, gold.
>Hot? Yeah, it does get warm here, but nothing like south Texas
>in August, which I've been sent to a few times.
Yabbut, in that humidity...
>Cold? Not really, we barely even have snow here any more! 30 years
>ago we used to have a fair bit of snow in the winter.
Yabbut, in that humidity...
>Humid? Well, yes it does get a bit humid, but I haven't really seen
>it all that different across the middle of the US.
Being "as bad as somewhere else" doesn't make it good.
>Yes, it is drier
>in Arizona, but the summers there are not so good.
Yeah, it's a nice, dry heat in MiseryZona.
>So, it suits me pretty well here! And, I've been running a
>manufacturing business in my house for over 25 years, at two
>locations. My current location requires a business license, but it
>only costs me $25 or $35 a year, depending on gross sales the previous
>year. Oh yeah, I had to renew my fictitious name registration with the
>state a few years ago, it is not the awesome amount of something like
>$4 every decade!
Now THAT sounds more like it.
>Seems pretty business-friendly to me. (Maybe I should keep my mouth
>shut about this , lest every home business type move in and wreck the
>advantage.)
You're right! Look what happened to California.
--
Good ideas alter the power balance in relationships, that is why
good ideas are always initially resisted. Good ideas come with a
heavy burden. Which is why so few people have them. So few people
can handle it.
-- Hugh Macleod
wrote:
>On 10/14/2011 06:32 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>> Move to Misery? Mebbe not!
>> Missouriably hot in the summer.
>> Missouriably cold in the winter.
>> Missouriably humid alla time.
>> It's in Tornado Alley. http://goo.gl/Ifthi
>> Watch out for the lead. http://goo.gl/BpcYi
>
>Well, tornadoes are really small phenomena, except maybe
>for Xenia Ohio. We've had a few, they really didn't do
>ALL that much damage, compared to a hurricane, for instance.
>
>The only lead is in Herculaneum, where they either built the biggest
>smelter in the US in the center of town, or the town grew up around
>the smelter. That IS a messy situation, the whole town is covered
>in lead dust. But, it is only that town that is affected.
those were. We have a few of those here, too. Copper, lead, gold.
>Hot? Yeah, it does get warm here, but nothing like south Texas
>in August, which I've been sent to a few times.
>Cold? Not really, we barely even have snow here any more! 30 years
>ago we used to have a fair bit of snow in the winter.
>Humid? Well, yes it does get a bit humid, but I haven't really seen
>it all that different across the middle of the US.
>Yes, it is drier
>in Arizona, but the summers there are not so good.
>So, it suits me pretty well here! And, I've been running a
>manufacturing business in my house for over 25 years, at two
>locations. My current location requires a business license, but it
>only costs me $25 or $35 a year, depending on gross sales the previous
>year. Oh yeah, I had to renew my fictitious name registration with the
>state a few years ago, it is not the awesome amount of something like
>$4 every decade!
>Seems pretty business-friendly to me. (Maybe I should keep my mouth
>shut about this , lest every home business type move in and wreck the
>advantage.)
--
Good ideas alter the power balance in relationships, that is why
good ideas are always initially resisted. Good ideas come with a
heavy burden. Which is why so few people have them. So few people
can handle it.
-- Hugh Macleod
Gunner Asch
Oct 17, 2011, 9:51:57 PM10/17/11
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:01:23 -0400, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
Im proud that Ive exposed your denial, hate and bigotry for all the
readers to see. That..and Ive showed how mentally ill you really are.
<VBG>
But with you freaks...its easy to do.
Gunner
readers to see. That..and Ive showed how mentally ill you really are.
<VBG>
But with you freaks...its easy to do.
Gunner
Gunner Asch
Oct 17, 2011, 9:51:59 PM10/17/11
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:03:24 -0400, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
wrote:
Virtually everything you have posted has been lies. Not just
inaccuracies..but outright lies.
And I keep exposing them as you make them. No one here cares that you
are going to be killed in less than a year
wrote:
inaccuracies..but outright lies.
And I keep exposing them as you make them. No one here cares that you
are going to be killed in less than a year
Gunner Asch
Oct 17, 2011, 9:52:02 PM10/17/11
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:05:54 -0400, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
EVERY post you make is filled with lies. Including this one. Making an
observation of your mental illness and hate, buffoonery and bias and
bigoty is hardly a "meltdown" you poor sorry bit of dreck.
When the Cull arrives..the world will be a far better, cleaner place
with you dead.
observation of your mental illness and hate, buffoonery and bias and
bigoty is hardly a "meltdown" you poor sorry bit of dreck.
When the Cull arrives..the world will be a far better, cleaner place
with you dead.
Gunner Asch
Oct 17, 2011, 9:52:03 PM10/17/11
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:59:39 -0400, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
wrote:
>>>
boring at the demonstration today? Or didnt anyone feed you free shit
and you are restless?
wrote:
>>>
>>> Wahahahaha.That's sure a reliable source.
>>>
>>Actually..It IS a reliable source.
>>
>><VBG>
>>
>>Sucks to be you.
>>
>>> Running from what Bush did that is still affecting the nation and
>>>world is something you nutters will be doing forever. Get over it
>>>foo........
>>
>>Sudden direction change? Do you have ADHD or are you suddenly trying to
>>change the subject?
>>
>>I vote for both.
>>
>>Gunner
>
>
> Says you fool.
Another bit of drivel from a mentally ill leftwinger. What..things
>>>
>>Actually..It IS a reliable source.
>>
>><VBG>
>>
>>Sucks to be you.
>>
>>> Running from what Bush did that is still affecting the nation and
>>>world is something you nutters will be doing forever. Get over it
>>>foo........
>>
>>Sudden direction change? Do you have ADHD or are you suddenly trying to
>>change the subject?
>>
>>I vote for both.
>>
>>Gunner
>
>
> Says you fool.
boring at the demonstration today? Or didnt anyone feed you free shit
and you are restless?
Jack Rabbit
Oct 17, 2011, 11:18:38 PM10/17/11
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On Oct 18, 9:51 am, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:03:24 -0400, Allen Drake <ALDr...@Spamex.com>
Poutine (play /puːˈtiːn/; Quebec French pronunciation [putsɪn]
( listen)) is a dish of French fries, fresh cheese curds, and
sometimes additional ingredients, covered with brown gravy or sauce.
[1]
Poutine is a diner staple that originated in Quebec and can now be
found across Canada. It is sold by national and international fast
food chains, in small "greasy spoon" type diners (commonly known as
"cantines" or "casse-croûtes" in Quebec) and pubs, as well as by
roadside chip wagons (commonly known as "cabanes à patates", literally
meaning "potato shacks"). International chains like McDonald's,[2] A&W,
[3] KFC and Burger King[4] also sell mass-produced poutine in Canada.
Atypically, the dish may include additional ingredients such as
lobster meat, rabbit confit, caviar, and truffles.[5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poutine
> On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:03:24 -0400, Allen Drake <ALDr...@Spamex.com>
( listen)) is a dish of French fries, fresh cheese curds, and
sometimes additional ingredients, covered with brown gravy or sauce.
[1]
Poutine is a diner staple that originated in Quebec and can now be
found across Canada. It is sold by national and international fast
food chains, in small "greasy spoon" type diners (commonly known as
"cantines" or "casse-croûtes" in Quebec) and pubs, as well as by
roadside chip wagons (commonly known as "cabanes à patates", literally
meaning "potato shacks"). International chains like McDonald's,[2] A&W,
[3] KFC and Burger King[4] also sell mass-produced poutine in Canada.
Atypically, the dish may include additional ingredients such as
lobster meat, rabbit confit, caviar, and truffles.[5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poutine
Jack Rabbit
Oct 17, 2011, 11:16:40 PM10/17/11
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On Oct 18, 9:52 am, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:05:54 -0400, Allen Drake <ALDr...@Spamex.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:58:58 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com>
> >wrote:
>
> >>On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 04:06:10 -0400, Allen Drake <ALDr...@Spamex.com>
> >>wrote:
>
> >>>On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 21:40:29 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com>
> >>>wrote:
>
> >>>>On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 17:01:44 -0400, Allen Drake <ALDr...@Spamex.com>
> >>>>wrote:
>
> >>>>>On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:14:58 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>wrote:
>
> >>>>>>On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 08:11:27 -0400, Allen Drake <ALDr...@Spamex.com>
> >>>>>>wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 23:00:44 +1100, "Grumpy" <tomil...@melbpc.org.au>
<yawwnnnnnnnnnnn>
> On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:05:54 -0400, Allen Drake <ALDr...@Spamex.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:58:58 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com>
> >wrote:
>
> >>On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 04:06:10 -0400, Allen Drake <ALDr...@Spamex.com>
> >>wrote:
>
> >>>On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 21:40:29 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com>
> >>>wrote:
>
> >>>>On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 17:01:44 -0400, Allen Drake <ALDr...@Spamex.com>
> >>>>wrote:
>
> >>>>>On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:14:58 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>wrote:
>
> >>>>>>On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 08:11:27 -0400, Allen Drake <ALDr...@Spamex.com>
> >>>>>>wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 23:00:44 +1100, "Grumpy" <tomil...@melbpc.org.au>
Allen Drake
Oct 18, 2011, 3:46:17 AM10/18/11
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different then Gumby.
Allen Drake
Oct 18, 2011, 3:48:18 AM10/18/11
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:51:59 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
Yes, this recession was all caused by Obama and the left. This is
what makes the right so crazed and hateful. This is what has hurt
America. You and your kind.
what makes the right so crazed and hateful. This is what has hurt
America. You and your kind.
Allen Drake
Oct 18, 2011, 3:50:34 AM10/18/11
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:52:02 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
You are the only one melting down loon. You get more sickly with
every post.
every post.
Gunner Asch
Oct 18, 2011, 11:09:46 AM10/18/11
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 03:46:17 -0400, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
And you are no different than pond scum.
Laugh laugh laugh!!
Laugh laugh laugh!!
Gunner Asch
Oct 18, 2011, 11:11:20 AM10/18/11
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 03:48:18 -0400, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
Actually..it was you and YOUR kind that quadrupled the national debt and
put our unemployment rate at 27% (U3 + U6)
Way to go dud!!
The Great Cull will sort you out nicely though.
<VBG>
Gunner
put our unemployment rate at 27% (U3 + U6)
Way to go dud!!
The Great Cull will sort you out nicely though.
<VBG>
Gunner
Gunner Asch
Oct 18, 2011, 11:13:08 AM10/18/11
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 03:50:34 -0400, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
laugh laugh laugh..and with each post you make..you get closer to a mass
grave filled with your fellow mental cases.
Ill kinda miss you. Having you around is like having a retarded chimp on
an organ grinders chain where everyone can laugh at it.
grave filled with your fellow mental cases.
Ill kinda miss you. Having you around is like having a retarded chimp on
an organ grinders chain where everyone can laugh at it.
Michael A. Terrell
Oct 18, 2011, 11:25:43 AM10/18/11
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Allen Drake wrote:
>
> On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:19:17 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
> ?? ?mike.t...@earthlink.net? wrote:
> ??
> ?? ?
> ?? ?Allen Drake wrote:
> ?? ??
> ?? ?? I have been a machinist for over 40 years and am still going strong.
> ?? ?? My post was all about the loss of many of those jobs due to the total
> ?? ??
> ?? ?? I have been a machinist for over 40 years and am still going strong.
> ?? ?? failures of the previous administration. So far the only responses I
> ?? ?? have seen are diversions and denial but facts are facts no matter what
> ?? ?? happened in the past. The republican administration left this country
> ?? ?? in the biggest mess since the great depression. No matter how much
> ?? ?? Clinton lied or anything done by him or anyone the facts will never
> ?? ?? change.
> ?? ??
> ?? ?? It must suck to be a rightWingNut still defending Bush.
> ?? ?
> ?? ?
> ?? ?
> ?? ? I'm an independent and I'm not defending anyone, moron.
> ??
> ?? You are the moron here and are defending the republicans unless you
> ?? can be specific about what I have posted it inaccurate.
> ?
> ?
> ? Show us where I supported anyone, loser.
>
> Simply by posting to this thread you show where you stand. You are no
> different then Gumby.
I accept your inability to prove your statements. By your own flawed
> Simply by posting to this thread you show where you stand. You are no
> different then Gumby.
logic, you are no different than Gunner.
Allen Drake
Oct 18, 2011, 3:48:26 PM10/18/11
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 08:13:08 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
What in the world are you babbling about now? Because I and most of
the rest of the country knows the republicans left this county in the
state it is in I am..........." with each post you make..you get
the rest of the country knows the republicans left this county in the
state it is in I am..........." with each post you make..you get
closer to a mass grave filled with your fellow mental cases."
You are the one that is a mental case Gumby.
Michael A. Terrell
Oct 18, 2011, 4:26:23 PM10/18/11
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Allen Drake wrote:
>
> Because I and most of the rest of the country knows the republicans
> left this county in the state it is in
Gunner Asch
Oct 18, 2011, 4:55:54 PM10/18/11
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 03:50:34 -0400, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
Shrug..and you get closer to the bottom of a mass grave with each
passing day.
<VBG>
Works for me.
Gunner
One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch
passing day.
<VBG>
Works for me.
Gunner
One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch
Gunner Asch
Oct 18, 2011, 6:06:52 PM10/18/11
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 15:48:26 -0400, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
wrote:
>>
<VBG>
Typical Leftwinger...full of shit and sick in the head.
Say...hows those approval polls for the Obamassiah doing these days?
Laugh laugh laugh!!!
wrote:
>>
>>laugh laugh laugh..and with each post you make..you get closer to a mass
>>grave filled with your fellow mental cases.
>>
>>Ill kinda miss you. Having you around is like having a retarded chimp on
>>an organ grinders chain where everyone can laugh at it.
>>
> What in the world are you babbling about now? Because I and most of
>the rest of the country knows the republicans left this county in the
>state it is in
And again he shows his mental illness and "megalomania".
>>grave filled with your fellow mental cases.
>>
>>Ill kinda miss you. Having you around is like having a retarded chimp on
>>an organ grinders chain where everyone can laugh at it.
>>
> What in the world are you babbling about now? Because I and most of
>the rest of the country knows the republicans left this county in the
>state it is in
<VBG>
Typical Leftwinger...full of shit and sick in the head.
Say...hows those approval polls for the Obamassiah doing these days?
Laugh laugh laugh!!!
Allen Drake
Oct 18, 2011, 7:31:14 PM10/18/11
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 16:26:23 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>Allen Drake wrote:
>>
>> Because I and most of the rest of the country knows the republicans
>> left this county in the state it is in
>
>
> Which county?
The same country that Bush and the republicans lead into a ditch. The
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>Allen Drake wrote:
>>
>> Because I and most of the rest of the country knows the republicans
>> left this county in the state it is in
>
>
> Which county?
entire world knows what happened and who was to blame.
Allen Drake
Oct 18, 2011, 7:33:14 PM10/18/11
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 15:06:52 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Yes Gumby, we all know how loony you are. Not many think the
republicans were not to blame. How does it feel to be such a nut case?
wrote:
republicans were not to blame. How does it feel to be such a nut case?
Allen Drake
Oct 18, 2011, 7:39:02 PM10/18/11
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 13:55:54 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
Gumby nothing seems to work for you. No matter how hard you try you
can't worm out and convince anyone the previous administration did
anything right so you don't even try. All you have left is your feeble
attempt to try to distract. Lost two wars started with lies. Admitted
he gave up looking for Bin Laden while Obama got him. Brought America
into the biggest recession sine the great depression and lost millions
of jobs. Obama has created millions. Bush got more Americans killed
over his lies than all terrorists combined.
Man you are one screwball Gumby. Poor little man.
Wahahahahaha...............
can't worm out and convince anyone the previous administration did
anything right so you don't even try. All you have left is your feeble
attempt to try to distract. Lost two wars started with lies. Admitted
he gave up looking for Bin Laden while Obama got him. Brought America
into the biggest recession sine the great depression and lost millions
of jobs. Obama has created millions. Bush got more Americans killed
over his lies than all terrorists combined.
Man you are one screwball Gumby. Poor little man.
Wahahahahaha...............
Gunner Asch
Oct 18, 2011, 7:39:25 PM10/18/11
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Gunner
Gunner Asch
Oct 18, 2011, 7:48:43 PM10/18/11
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 19:33:14 -0400, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
"I believe that being despised by the despicable
is as good as being admired by the admirable."
From long experience myself, I can only say, "You betcha."
Laugh laugh laugh!!
Gunner
is as good as being admired by the admirable."
From long experience myself, I can only say, "You betcha."
Laugh laugh laugh!!
Gunner
Gunner Asch
Oct 18, 2011, 7:49:46 PM10/18/11
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 19:39:02 -0400, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
Gunner
"I believe that being despised by the despicable
is as good as being admired by the admirable."
From long experience myself, I can only say, "You betcha."
Laugh laugh laugh!!!
is as good as being admired by the admirable."
From long experience myself, I can only say, "You betcha."
Gunner
dca...@krl.org
Oct 18, 2011, 9:41:23 PM10/18/11
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On Oct 18, 7:39 pm, Allen Drake <ALDr...@Spamex.com> wrote:
>lost millions
> of jobs. Obama has created millions.
If Obama has created millions of jobs, explain how the unemployment is
>lost millions
> of jobs. Obama has created millions.
close to 10%. As far as I know, Obama has at best kept a lot of
government jobs going for another year, but those jobs will be lost
eventually. You are welcome to cite studies that prove Obama has
created jobs.
Dan
Michael A. Terrell
Oct 18, 2011, 10:14:14 PM10/18/11
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mother had any kids that weren't born brain dead?
Michael A. Terrell
Oct 18, 2011, 10:15:11 PM10/18/11
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Allen Drake
Oct 19, 2011, 3:55:13 AM10/19/11
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without FOX.
According to Florida congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz, President
Obama is on pace to create more jobs in 2010 than President Bush did
in his eight years of office.
"A republican President has never , never left the office with a
blanced Budget or a surplus.... Never "
HeyBub
Oct 19, 2011, 8:01:10 AM10/19/11
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Allen Drake wrote:
>>
> What in the world are you babbling about now? Because I and most of
> the rest of the country knows the republicans left this county in the
> state it is in I am..........." with each post you make..you get
> closer to a mass grave filled with your fellow mental cases."
>
I wouldn't say exactly that. The budget deficit in 2007 was $110 billion.
>>
> What in the world are you babbling about now? Because I and most of
> the rest of the country knows the republicans left this county in the
> state it is in I am..........." with each post you make..you get
> closer to a mass grave filled with your fellow mental cases."
>
The budget deficit for the year ending Sept 30th was $1.4 trillion. For the
entire eight years of the Bush administration, the combined budget deficits
were about $800 billion. Obama has quadrupled that amount in only three
years.
Assuming Obama inherited a mess, he's made it worse. Far worse. Almost
impossibly worse.
jim
Oct 19, 2011, 8:16:53 AM10/19/11
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HeyBub wrote:
>
> I wouldn't say exactly that. The budget deficit in 2007 was $110 billion.
> The budget deficit for the year ending Sept 30th was $1.4 trillion. For the
> entire eight years of the Bush administration, the combined budget deficits
> were about $800 billion. Obama has quadrupled that amount in only three
> years.
>
> Assuming Obama inherited a mess, he's made it worse. Far worse. Almost
> impossibly worse.
The federal budget is not causing the economic slow down.
The fedreal budget deficit is the only thing preventing
a full scale depression bigger than the depresion of the 30's.
It is private sector mismanagement of credit and debt
that has been pushing the US into a depression.
The federal deficit is the only thing preventing the depression
from happening.
This is not theory. This is what you will see as fact when
the effort is made to reduce the deficit. Economic collapse.
The fact that 15% of workers cannot find suitable employment tells
you the federal deficit is now way too small.
When Congress makes the deficit smaller then millions more in the US
will become out of work.
If Congress tries to balance the budget there may be
50% of the workforce unemployed.
dca...@krl.org
Oct 19, 2011, 9:16:03 AM10/19/11
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On Oct 19, 3:55 am, Allen Drake <ALDr...@Spamex.com> wrote:
> If you really paid attention you would already know. There is loife
> without FOX.
>
> According to Florida congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz, President
> Obama is on pace to create more jobs in 2010 than President Bush did
> in his eight years of office.
>
> "A republican President has never , never left the office with a
> blanced Budget or a surplus.... Never "
I do not watch Fox. And do not pay any attention to economic news on
> If you really paid attention you would already know. There is loife
> without FOX.
>
> According to Florida congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz, President
> Obama is on pace to create more jobs in 2010 than President Bush did
> in his eight years of office.
>
> "A republican President has never , never left the office with a
> blanced Budget or a surplus.... Never "
TV. Some of the newpapers are much better for in depth stories on the
economy.
As far as Debbie Schultz..........I hardly consider the Chair of the
Democratic National Committee to be a balanced source of news. Do you
really think I am stupid enough to believe any congress person is an
unbiased source of economic news?
Dan
Garlicdude
Oct 19, 2011, 11:39:51 AM10/19/11
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Allen Drake wrote:
>
> "A republican President has never , never left the office with a
> blanced Budget or a surplus.... Never "
>
In the red and black terms of fiscal policy, it was a
>
> "A republican President has never , never left the office with a
> blanced Budget or a surplus.... Never "
>
dramatic occasion. After a paring arid scraping, President
Eisenhower had almost in hand, to present to the 86th
Congress next month, a balanced budget with about $77
billion incoming against about $77 billion outgoing.
Read more:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,894018,00.html#ixzz1bF6d7CID
--
Regards,
Steve Saling
aka The Garlic Dude ©
Gilroy, CA
The Garlic Capital of The World
http://tinyurl.com/2avg58
jim
Oct 19, 2011, 12:42:10 PM10/19/11
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Garlicdude wrote:
>
> Allen Drake wrote:
>
> >
> > "A republican President has never , never left the office with a
> > blanced Budget or a surplus.... Never "
> >
>
> In the red and black terms of fiscal policy, it was a
> dramatic occasion. After a paring arid scraping, President
> Eisenhower had almost in hand, to present to the 86th
> Congress next month, a balanced budget with about $77
> billion incoming against about $77 billion outgoing.
It created a recession and in response to the recession the
last two years of the Eisenhower administration the federal
govt spent 20% more than it collected in revenues.
Federal debt from 1954-1961
http://tinyurl.com/3nfas8o
Michael A. Terrell
Oct 19, 2011, 1:12:50 PM10/19/11
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Garlicdude
Oct 19, 2011, 4:02:24 PM10/19/11
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was when Detroit started making smaller cars, Valiants,
Darts, Falcons, Corvair all started around that time.
HeyBub
Oct 19, 2011, 5:03:55 PM10/19/11
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> If Congress tries to balance the budget there may be
> 50% of the workforce unemployed.
number of drones might not be so bad. It would leave some room for the
worker bees to thrive.
jim
Oct 19, 2011, 10:05:48 PM10/19/11
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Garlicdude wrote:
>
> True enough, I was 10 or so when that recession started. It
> was when Detroit started making smaller cars, Valiants,
> Darts, Falcons, Corvair all started around that time.
Yup. Don't forget the Olds F-85. That was a sweet little car.
>
> True enough, I was 10 or so when that recession started. It
> was when Detroit started making smaller cars, Valiants,
> Darts, Falcons, Corvair all started around that time.
Allen Drake
Oct 20, 2011, 3:27:34 PM10/20/11
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simple. If you blame the current administration for where the US is
now and not the ones that really are to blame then that has because
you are simply a fool.
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