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Gunner Asch
Nov 5, 2011, 3:46:59 PM11/5/11
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And have available an Aciera 22 mill /drill. This has handwheels on
all three axis and I have a modest amount of tooling and boring tools
(in the boxes). This unit is the floor model, standing about 6' tall
Its a Swiss drill press/milling machine and if you do a review on
Aciera..you will note that they were considered the best of the best
Swiss machinery.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbNiJWvESfI
http://www.mullermachines.com/en/MachineTool/Details/15556/ACIERA-22-VA
Also is a Taiwanese mill..40 taper, with both the verticle head..and the
horizontal spindle. Power feed on all axis. Its probably about 2800 lbs
Looks to be a right nice mill under the grime.
Ive not powered them up as of yet, both are still in So. Cal (Santa Ana)
but will do so this coming week and take photos of both.
Any interest in either of them?
If not..Ill swap out the big Delta drill press with the Aciera and use
it in my own shop. Having the ultimate mill/drill with a 2hp
motor...<VBG>
Gunner
One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch
all three axis and I have a modest amount of tooling and boring tools
(in the boxes). This unit is the floor model, standing about 6' tall
Its a Swiss drill press/milling machine and if you do a review on
Aciera..you will note that they were considered the best of the best
Swiss machinery.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbNiJWvESfI
http://www.mullermachines.com/en/MachineTool/Details/15556/ACIERA-22-VA
Also is a Taiwanese mill..40 taper, with both the verticle head..and the
horizontal spindle. Power feed on all axis. Its probably about 2800 lbs
Looks to be a right nice mill under the grime.
Ive not powered them up as of yet, both are still in So. Cal (Santa Ana)
but will do so this coming week and take photos of both.
Any interest in either of them?
If not..Ill swap out the big Delta drill press with the Aciera and use
it in my own shop. Having the ultimate mill/drill with a 2hp
motor...<VBG>
Gunner
One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch
Richard
Nov 5, 2011, 10:23:48 PM11/5/11
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On 11/5/2011 2:46 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> And have available an Aciera 22 mill /drill. This has handwheels on
> all three axis and I have a modest amount of tooling and boring tools
> (in the boxes). This unit is the floor model, standing about 6' tall
> Its a Swiss drill press/milling machine and if you do a review on
> Aciera..you will note that they were considered the best of the best
> Swiss machinery.
What would this little mill go for, Gunner?
> And have available an Aciera 22 mill /drill. This has handwheels on
> all three axis and I have a modest amount of tooling and boring tools
> (in the boxes). This unit is the floor model, standing about 6' tall
> Its a Swiss drill press/milling machine and if you do a review on
> Aciera..you will note that they were considered the best of the best
> Swiss machinery.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbNiJWvESfI
>
> http://www.mullermachines.com/en/MachineTool/Details/15556/ACIERA-22-VA
>
>
Gunner Asch
Nov 6, 2011, 12:57:20 AM11/6/11
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On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 21:23:48 -0500, Richard <cave...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
I honestly dont know. New they sold for about $45,000 based on prices
Ive managed to find.
Used they are going for $5100 Euros..whatever that is.
Make me an offer and Ill hold it and check it out.
Now the big miller, horizontal/vert will be about $1800 if its in good
running shape. Maybe some less. Maybe a lot less.
wrote:
Ive managed to find.
Used they are going for $5100 Euros..whatever that is.
Make me an offer and Ill hold it and check it out.
Now the big miller, horizontal/vert will be about $1800 if its in good
running shape. Maybe some less. Maybe a lot less.
pyotr filipivich
Nov 6, 2011, 1:14:12 AM11/6/11
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Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> on Sat, 05 Nov 2011 21:57:20 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
pyotr
Go not to the Net for answers, for it will tell you Yes and no. And
you are a bloody fool, only an ignorant cretin would even ask the
question, forty two, 47, the second door, and how many blonde lawyers
does it take to change a lightbulb.
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 21:23:48 -0500, Richard <cave...@earthlink.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On 11/5/2011 2:46 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>> And have available an Aciera 22 mill /drill. This has handwheels on
>>> all three axis and I have a modest amount of tooling and boring tools
>>> (in the boxes). This unit is the floor model, standing about 6' tall
>>> Its a Swiss drill press/milling machine and if you do a review on
>>> Aciera..you will note that they were considered the best of the best
>>> Swiss machinery.
>>
>>What would this little mill go for, Gunner?
>>
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbNiJWvESfI
>>>
>>> http://www.mullermachines.com/en/MachineTool/Details/15556/ACIERA-22-VA
>>>
>>>
>
>I honestly dont know. New they sold for about $45,000 based on prices
>Ive managed to find.
>
>Used they are going for $5100 Euros..whatever that is.
As of this posting 1.37 Euros to the dollar, so ~$7,000 USD.
>wrote:
>
>>On 11/5/2011 2:46 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>> And have available an Aciera 22 mill /drill. This has handwheels on
>>> all three axis and I have a modest amount of tooling and boring tools
>>> (in the boxes). This unit is the floor model, standing about 6' tall
>>> Its a Swiss drill press/milling machine and if you do a review on
>>> Aciera..you will note that they were considered the best of the best
>>> Swiss machinery.
>>
>>What would this little mill go for, Gunner?
>>
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbNiJWvESfI
>>>
>>> http://www.mullermachines.com/en/MachineTool/Details/15556/ACIERA-22-VA
>>>
>>>
>
>I honestly dont know. New they sold for about $45,000 based on prices
>Ive managed to find.
>
>Used they are going for $5100 Euros..whatever that is.
>
>Make me an offer and Ill hold it and check it out.
>
>Now the big miller, horizontal/vert will be about $1800 if its in good
>running shape. Maybe some less. Maybe a lot less.
>
>Gunner
>
>One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
>in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
>and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
>not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
> Gunner Asch
--
>Make me an offer and Ill hold it and check it out.
>
>Now the big miller, horizontal/vert will be about $1800 if its in good
>running shape. Maybe some less. Maybe a lot less.
>
>Gunner
>
>One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
>in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
>and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
>not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
> Gunner Asch
pyotr
Go not to the Net for answers, for it will tell you Yes and no. And
you are a bloody fool, only an ignorant cretin would even ask the
question, forty two, 47, the second door, and how many blonde lawyers
does it take to change a lightbulb.
Richard
Nov 6, 2011, 1:31:49 AM11/6/11
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On 11/5/2011 11:57 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 21:23:48 -0500, Richard<cave...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/5/2011 2:46 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>> And have available an Aciera 22 mill /drill. This has handwheels on
>>> all three axis and I have a modest amount of tooling and boring tools
>>> (in the boxes). This unit is the floor model, standing about 6' tall
>>> Its a Swiss drill press/milling machine and if you do a review on
>>> Aciera..you will note that they were considered the best of the best
>>> Swiss machinery.
>>
>> What would this little mill go for, Gunner?
>>
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbNiJWvESfI
>>>
>>> http://www.mullermachines.com/en/MachineTool/Details/15556/ACIERA-22-VA
>>>
>>>
>
> I honestly dont know. New they sold for about $45,000 based on prices
> Ive managed to find.
>
> Used they are going for $5100 Euros..whatever that is.
>
> Make me an offer and Ill hold it and check it out.
>
> Now the big miller, horizontal/vert will be about $1800 if its in good
> running shape. Maybe some less. Maybe a lot less.
>
> Gunner
>
Aw, no. Shipping would be the problem.
> On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 21:23:48 -0500, Richard<cave...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/5/2011 2:46 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>> And have available an Aciera 22 mill /drill. This has handwheels on
>>> all three axis and I have a modest amount of tooling and boring tools
>>> (in the boxes). This unit is the floor model, standing about 6' tall
>>> Its a Swiss drill press/milling machine and if you do a review on
>>> Aciera..you will note that they were considered the best of the best
>>> Swiss machinery.
>>
>> What would this little mill go for, Gunner?
>>
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbNiJWvESfI
>>>
>>> http://www.mullermachines.com/en/MachineTool/Details/15556/ACIERA-22-VA
>>>
>>>
>
> I honestly dont know. New they sold for about $45,000 based on prices
> Ive managed to find.
>
> Used they are going for $5100 Euros..whatever that is.
>
> Make me an offer and Ill hold it and check it out.
>
> Now the big miller, horizontal/vert will be about $1800 if its in good
> running shape. Maybe some less. Maybe a lot less.
>
> Gunner
>
But I'd sure like to have one like that.
Sweet machines.
Too_Many_Tools
Nov 6, 2011, 1:41:13 AM11/6/11
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On Nov 5, 11:57 pm, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 21:23:48 -0500, Richard <cavel...@earthlink.net>
> Gunner Asch- Hide quoted text -
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How do we know that you actually own them?
Do you have proof of ownership..if so post it on line.
TMT
> On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 21:23:48 -0500, Richard <cavel...@earthlink.net>
>
> - Show quoted text -
How do we know that you actually own them?
Do you have proof of ownership..if so post it on line.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
Nov 6, 2011, 1:40:01 AM11/6/11
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pick their equipment up?
They will expect free loading.
TMT
Gunner Asch
Nov 6, 2011, 2:02:05 AM11/6/11
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On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 21:23:48 -0500, Richard <cave...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
Oh..I should mention I have the factory manual on this mill/drill and
its claimed that it weighs about 1000 lbs
It runs from 40-3600 rpm and is designed to turn up to a 7/8" drill bit
and a 11/16" tap.
Drilling/tapping depth is 4.72", with a head adjustment range of 12"
Z has power feed if needed, with a range of .0008-.12 per rev
Model 22 (S) TRAE
E stands for electrical tapping with auto reverse and adjustable
start/stop locations
There is a pedel located in the base of the machine, that will
automatically start/stop/reverse drilling and tapping operations
Ive just finished reading the manual..its quite the machine!
Gunner
220vt 3ph
wrote:
its claimed that it weighs about 1000 lbs
It runs from 40-3600 rpm and is designed to turn up to a 7/8" drill bit
and a 11/16" tap.
Drilling/tapping depth is 4.72", with a head adjustment range of 12"
Z has power feed if needed, with a range of .0008-.12 per rev
Model 22 (S) TRAE
E stands for electrical tapping with auto reverse and adjustable
start/stop locations
There is a pedel located in the base of the machine, that will
automatically start/stop/reverse drilling and tapping operations
Ive just finished reading the manual..its quite the machine!
Gunner
220vt 3ph
Too_Many_Tools
Nov 6, 2011, 2:11:37 AM11/6/11
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yet?
And without proof of ownership?
Does the Taft, Ca police department know about this?
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
Nov 6, 2011, 2:07:33 AM11/6/11
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On Nov 6, 1:02 am, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 21:23:48 -0500, Richard <cavel...@earthlink.net>
> 220vt 3ph- Hide quoted text -
owners name, phone number with original receipt?
So maybe these machines will be Ig's start in the scrap business...why
don't you donate those machines to Ig Gummer?
Of course we still need to see proof of ownership.
TMT
> On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 21:23:48 -0500, Richard <cavel...@earthlink.net>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Did the manual have the proof of ownership inside? You know like the
> - Show quoted text -
owners name, phone number with original receipt?
So maybe these machines will be Ig's start in the scrap business...why
don't you donate those machines to Ig Gummer?
Of course we still need to see proof of ownership.
TMT
Gunner Asch
Nov 6, 2011, 11:12:49 AM11/6/11
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On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 23:14:12 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> on Sat, 05 Nov 2011 21:57:20 -0700
>typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>>On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 21:23:48 -0500, Richard <cave...@earthlink.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On 11/5/2011 2:46 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>>> And have available an Aciera 22 mill /drill. This has handwheels on
>>>> all three axis and I have a modest amount of tooling and boring tools
>>>> (in the boxes). This unit is the floor model, standing about 6' tall
>>>> Its a Swiss drill press/milling machine and if you do a review on
>>>> Aciera..you will note that they were considered the best of the best
>>>> Swiss machinery.
>>>
>>>What would this little mill go for, Gunner?
>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbNiJWvESfI
>>>>
>>>> http://www.mullermachines.com/en/MachineTool/Details/15556/ACIERA-22-VA
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>I honestly dont know. New they sold for about $45,000 based on prices
>>Ive managed to find.
>>
>>Used they are going for $5100 Euros..whatever that is.
>
> As of this posting 1.37 Euros to the dollar, so ~$7,000 USD.
Ouch!
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> on Sat, 05 Nov 2011 21:57:20 -0700
>typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>>On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 21:23:48 -0500, Richard <cave...@earthlink.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On 11/5/2011 2:46 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>>> And have available an Aciera 22 mill /drill. This has handwheels on
>>>> all three axis and I have a modest amount of tooling and boring tools
>>>> (in the boxes). This unit is the floor model, standing about 6' tall
>>>> Its a Swiss drill press/milling machine and if you do a review on
>>>> Aciera..you will note that they were considered the best of the best
>>>> Swiss machinery.
>>>
>>>What would this little mill go for, Gunner?
>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbNiJWvESfI
>>>>
>>>> http://www.mullermachines.com/en/MachineTool/Details/15556/ACIERA-22-VA
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>I honestly dont know. New they sold for about $45,000 based on prices
>>Ive managed to find.
>>
>>Used they are going for $5100 Euros..whatever that is.
>
> As of this posting 1.37 Euros to the dollar, so ~$7,000 USD.
Well..Id love to have that much..but certainly wont be asking for it.
Found the manual for it too.
While I was cleaning out the shop..I snagged every machine manual I
could find.
Hardinge CHNC 1 and II, lots of other manuals of similar.
Should I try to sell these on Ebay or post em here?
Gunner Asch
Nov 6, 2011, 11:13:35 AM11/6/11
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On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 01:31:49 -0500, Richard <cave...@earthlink.net>
Why? They dont have trucks that go to Texas?
Steve B
Nov 6, 2011, 12:05:44 PM11/6/11
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"Richard" <cave...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:eaKdnTxYeel0tCvT...@earthlink.com...
the Buck Owens museum.
Steve ;-)
Too_Many_Tools
Nov 6, 2011, 1:24:15 PM11/6/11
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On Nov 6, 10:12 am, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 23:14:12 -0700, pyotr filipivich
>
>
>
>
>
> <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> on Sat, 05 Nov 2011 21:57:20 -0700
> On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 23:14:12 -0700, pyotr filipivich
>
>
>
>
>
> <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
> >>On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 21:23:48 -0500, Richard <cavel...@earthlink.net>
>
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How about $20?
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Of course we would need to see proof of ownership.
About those manuals...did the owner sell them to you?
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
Nov 6, 2011, 1:25:48 PM11/6/11
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On Nov 6, 11:05 am, "Steve B" <ste...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Richard" <cavel...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
TMT
> "Richard" <cavel...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> news:eaKdnTxYeel0tCvT...@earthlink.com...
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>
>
>
>
> > On 11/5/2011 11:57 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> >> On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 21:23:48 -0500, Richard<cavel...@earthlink.net>
> news:eaKdnTxYeel0tCvT...@earthlink.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 11/5/2011 11:57 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> On 11/5/2011 2:46 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> >>>> And have available an Aciera 22 mill /drill. This has handwheels on
> >>>> all three axis and I have a modest amount of tooling and boring tools
> >>>> (in the boxes). This unit is the floor model, standing about 6' tall
> >>>> Its a Swiss drill press/milling machine and if you do a review on
> >>>> Aciera..you will note that they were considered the best of the best
> >>>> Swiss machinery.
>
> >>> What would this little mill go for, Gunner?
>
> >>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbNiJWvESfI
>
> >>>>http://www.mullermachines.com/en/MachineTool/Details/15556/ACIERA-22-VA
>
> >> I honestly dont know. New they sold for about $45,000 based on prices
> >> Ive managed to find.
>
> >> Used they are going for $5100 Euros..whatever that is.
>
> >> Make me an offer and Ill hold it and check it out.
>
> >> Now the big miller, horizontal/vert will be about $1800 if its in good
> >> running shape. Maybe some less. Maybe a lot less.
>
> >> Gunner
>
> > Aw, no. Shipping would be the problem.
>
> > But I'd sure like to have one like that.
> > Sweet machines.
>
> So, take a drive. Bakersfield is beautiful this time of year. Don't miss
> the Buck Owens museum.
>
> Steve ;-)- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>> On 11/5/2011 2:46 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> >>>> And have available an Aciera 22 mill /drill. This has handwheels on
> >>>> all three axis and I have a modest amount of tooling and boring tools
> >>>> (in the boxes). This unit is the floor model, standing about 6' tall
> >>>> Its a Swiss drill press/milling machine and if you do a review on
> >>>> Aciera..you will note that they were considered the best of the best
> >>>> Swiss machinery.
>
> >>> What would this little mill go for, Gunner?
>
> >>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbNiJWvESfI
>
> >>>>http://www.mullermachines.com/en/MachineTool/Details/15556/ACIERA-22-VA
>
> >> I honestly dont know. New they sold for about $45,000 based on prices
> >> Ive managed to find.
>
> >> Used they are going for $5100 Euros..whatever that is.
>
> >> Make me an offer and Ill hold it and check it out.
>
> >> Now the big miller, horizontal/vert will be about $1800 if its in good
> >> running shape. Maybe some less. Maybe a lot less.
>
> >> Gunner
>
> > Aw, no. Shipping would be the problem.
>
> > But I'd sure like to have one like that.
> > Sweet machines.
>
> So, take a drive. Bakersfield is beautiful this time of year. Don't miss
> the Buck Owens museum.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Hee Haw!
> - Show quoted text -
TMT
Richard
Nov 6, 2011, 1:40:51 PM11/6/11
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LOL
But we are moving into an apartment for a while.
I don't think it will fit on the balcony.
Richard
Nov 6, 2011, 1:42:36 PM11/6/11
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On 11/6/2011 1:11 AM, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>
> TMT
What is your problem, TMT?
>
> TMT
What is your problem, TMT?
Too_Many_Tools
Nov 6, 2011, 1:28:12 PM11/6/11
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On Nov 6, 10:13 am, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 01:31:49 -0500, Richard <cavel...@earthlink.net>
Gummer...if you want to make a sale with a machine without proof of
purchase you will need to offer free delivery.
Of course I will expect my cut for brokering your machine.
TMT
> On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 01:31:49 -0500, Richard <cavel...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On 11/5/2011 11:57 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> >> On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 21:23:48 -0500, Richard<cavel...@earthlink.net>
>
>
>
>
>
> >On 11/5/2011 11:57 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> On 11/5/2011 2:46 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> >>>> And have available an Aciera 22 mill /drill. This has handwheels on
> >>>> all three axis and I have a modest amount of tooling and boring tools
> >>>> (in the boxes). This unit is the floor model, standing about 6' tall
> >>>> Its a Swiss drill press/milling machine and if you do a review on
> >>>> Aciera..you will note that they were considered the best of the best
> >>>> Swiss machinery.
>
> >>> What would this little mill go for, Gunner?
>
> >>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbNiJWvESfI
>
> >>>>http://www.mullermachines.com/en/MachineTool/Details/15556/ACIERA-22-VA
>
> >> I honestly dont know. New they sold for about $45,000 based on prices
> >> Ive managed to find.
>
> >> Used they are going for $5100 Euros..whatever that is.
>
> >> Make me an offer and Ill hold it and check it out.
>
> >> Now the big miller, horizontal/vert will be about $1800 if its in good
> >> running shape. Maybe some less. Maybe a lot less.
>
> >> Gunner
>
> >Aw, no. Shipping would be the problem.
>
> >But I'd sure like to have one like that.
> >Sweet machines.
>
> Why? They dont have trucks that go to Texas?- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>> On 11/5/2011 2:46 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> >>>> And have available an Aciera 22 mill /drill. This has handwheels on
> >>>> all three axis and I have a modest amount of tooling and boring tools
> >>>> (in the boxes). This unit is the floor model, standing about 6' tall
> >>>> Its a Swiss drill press/milling machine and if you do a review on
> >>>> Aciera..you will note that they were considered the best of the best
> >>>> Swiss machinery.
>
> >>> What would this little mill go for, Gunner?
>
> >>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbNiJWvESfI
>
> >>>>http://www.mullermachines.com/en/MachineTool/Details/15556/ACIERA-22-VA
>
> >> I honestly dont know. New they sold for about $45,000 based on prices
> >> Ive managed to find.
>
> >> Used they are going for $5100 Euros..whatever that is.
>
> >> Make me an offer and Ill hold it and check it out.
>
> >> Now the big miller, horizontal/vert will be about $1800 if its in good
> >> running shape. Maybe some less. Maybe a lot less.
>
> >> Gunner
>
> >Aw, no. Shipping would be the problem.
>
> >But I'd sure like to have one like that.
> >Sweet machines.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Don't they have pickup trucks in Taft, CA?
> - Show quoted text -
Gummer...if you want to make a sale with a machine without proof of
purchase you will need to offer free delivery.
Of course I will expect my cut for brokering your machine.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
Nov 6, 2011, 2:42:22 PM11/6/11
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My problem...Gummer not paying his bills...and not paying taxes...and
publicly bragging that he is proud of his sad lifestyle.
Anyone buying anything from Gummer had better demand proof of
ownership of the items or risk possibly being prosecuted for buying
stolen property.
Buying anything from Gummer can cost the buyer much more than just the
cash they hand to Gummer.
TMT
F. George McDuffee
Nov 6, 2011, 5:03:21 PM11/6/11
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You may find the following of interest. The only economic
sectors with current growth are organized crime and the
systeme-D informal economy.
About organized crime [no not the IRS]
http://www.weforum.org/content/global-agenda-council-organized-crime-2011
About systeme-d
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/10/28/black_market_global_economy
FWIW - what Gunner, et al, call the "Great Cull" has
considerable historical roots. Proper name is Jacquerie
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquerie
--
Unka' George
"Gold is the money of kings,
silver is the money of gentlemen,
barter is the money of peasants,
but debt is the money of slaves"
-Norm Franz, "Money and Wealth in the New Millenium"
sectors with current growth are organized crime and the
systeme-D informal economy.
About organized crime [no not the IRS]
http://www.weforum.org/content/global-agenda-council-organized-crime-2011
About systeme-d
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/10/28/black_market_global_economy
FWIW - what Gunner, et al, call the "Great Cull" has
considerable historical roots. Proper name is Jacquerie
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquerie
--
Unka' George
"Gold is the money of kings,
silver is the money of gentlemen,
barter is the money of peasants,
but debt is the money of slaves"
-Norm Franz, "Money and Wealth in the New Millenium"
dca...@krl.org
Nov 6, 2011, 5:15:51 PM11/6/11
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On Nov 6, 2:42 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> My problem...Gummer not paying his bills...and not paying taxes...and
> publicly bragging that he is proud of his sad lifestyle.
>
> Anyone buying anything from Gummer had better demand proof of
> ownership of the items or risk possibly being prosecuted for buying
> stolen property.
>
> Buying anything from Gummer can cost the buyer much more than just the
> cash they hand to Gummer.
>
> TMT
Sounds like a busy body's problems to me. I don't see any direct
> My problem...Gummer not paying his bills...and not paying taxes...and
> publicly bragging that he is proud of his sad lifestyle.
>
> Anyone buying anything from Gummer had better demand proof of
> ownership of the items or risk possibly being prosecuted for buying
> stolen property.
>
> Buying anything from Gummer can cost the buyer much more than just the
> cash they hand to Gummer.
>
> TMT
connection to you.
Dan
technomaNge
Nov 6, 2011, 5:45:11 PM11/6/11
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Buy something from him, get a receipt, turn him in to the sheriff
for selling stolen property.
Let us know how it all turns out.
technomaNge--
In a democracy, it’s your vote that counts.
On Sesame Street, it’s your count that votes.
Ah-ah-ah.
Gunner Asch
Nov 6, 2011, 7:52:57 PM11/6/11
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Ive been told that he will be killed early on, and in the most horrific
fashion they can think up.
Shrug.
Works for me. Really works for me in fact.
Gunner
Gunner Asch
Nov 6, 2011, 7:53:43 PM11/6/11
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In fact..I welcome it.
Gunner
Gunner Asch
Nov 6, 2011, 8:04:02 PM11/6/11
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On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 16:03:21 -0600, F. George McDuffee
<gmcd...@mcduffee-associates.us> wrote:
>You may find the following of interest. The only economic
>sectors with current growth are organized crime and the
>systeme-D informal economy.
>
>About organized crime [no not the IRS]
>http://www.weforum.org/content/global-agenda-council-organized-crime-2011
>
>About systeme-d
>http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/10/28/black_market_global_economy
>
>
>
>FWIW - what Gunner, et al, call the "Great Cull" has
>considerable historical roots. Proper name is Jacquerie
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquerie
As does the French Revolution
<gmcd...@mcduffee-associates.us> wrote:
>You may find the following of interest. The only economic
>sectors with current growth are organized crime and the
>systeme-D informal economy.
>
>About organized crime [no not the IRS]
>http://www.weforum.org/content/global-agenda-council-organized-crime-2011
>
>About systeme-d
>http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/10/28/black_market_global_economy
>
>
>
>FWIW - what Gunner, et al, call the "Great Cull" has
>considerable historical roots. Proper name is Jacquerie
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquerie
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Revolution
The problem with the Jacqurerie was that the peasents were poorly armed
and utimately were up against the well armed and armored French
military.
The Leftwing has no arms and armor to speak off..and the military is
composed of the very same non leftwing peasents that will ultimately
rise up and kill the Leftwingers enmass.
Guillotine!!! Guillotine!!!!!!
Madam LaFarge, 1791, Sarah Palin, 2012
Too_Many_Tools
Nov 6, 2011, 8:38:18 PM11/6/11
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On Nov 6, 6:52 pm, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Nov 2011 14:15:51 -0800 (PST), "dcas...@krl.org"
> Gunner- Hide quoted text -
and Gummer makes a death threat against me.
Now in the world of business that would be a significant indicator
that the merchandise in question might be stolen.
Of course Gummer posting proof of ownership on line here that any
prospective buyer or law enforcement agency could verify would go a
long way in proving that Gummer rightly owns the merchandise.
Or he could just post another death threat.
TMT
> On Sun, 6 Nov 2011 14:15:51 -0800 (PST), "dcas...@krl.org"
>
> - Show quoted text -
Hmmm...I bring up the need for documentation for proof of ownership
> - Show quoted text -
and Gummer makes a death threat against me.
Now in the world of business that would be a significant indicator
that the merchandise in question might be stolen.
Of course Gummer posting proof of ownership on line here that any
prospective buyer or law enforcement agency could verify would go a
long way in proving that Gummer rightly owns the merchandise.
Or he could just post another death threat.
TMT
Gunner Asch
Nov 6, 2011, 8:57:59 PM11/6/11
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On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 12:40:51 -0600, Richard <cave...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
>>>> Used they are going for $5100 Euros..whatever that is.
>>>>
>>>> Make me an offer and Ill hold it and check it out.
>>>>
>>>> Now the big miller, horizontal/vert will be about $1800 if its in good
>>>> running shape. Maybe some less. Maybe a lot less.
>>>>
>>>> Gunner
>>>>
>>>
>>> Aw, no. Shipping would be the problem.
>>>
>>> But I'd sure like to have one like that.
>>> Sweet machines.
>>
>> Why? They dont have trucks that go to Texas?
>>
>
> From California? Doubt it.
>LOL
>
>But we are moving into an apartment for a while.
>I don't think it will fit on the balcony.
>
Actually..Ive lost 7 of my clients who moved to Texas, lock stock and
barrel vise. In the last 24 months.
Next one to flee California..Ill ask him if he wants to add the critter
to his multiple truck loads
wrote:
>>>> Used they are going for $5100 Euros..whatever that is.
>>>>
>>>> Make me an offer and Ill hold it and check it out.
>>>>
>>>> Now the big miller, horizontal/vert will be about $1800 if its in good
>>>> running shape. Maybe some less. Maybe a lot less.
>>>>
>>>> Gunner
>>>>
>>>
>>> Aw, no. Shipping would be the problem.
>>>
>>> But I'd sure like to have one like that.
>>> Sweet machines.
>>
>> Why? They dont have trucks that go to Texas?
>>
>
> From California? Doubt it.
>LOL
>
>But we are moving into an apartment for a while.
>I don't think it will fit on the balcony.
>
barrel vise. In the last 24 months.
Next one to flee California..Ill ask him if he wants to add the critter
to his multiple truck loads
Too_Many_Tools
Nov 6, 2011, 8:55:53 PM11/6/11
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> Gunner- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
LOL..okay let's play the game.
>
> - Show quoted text -
Gummer...I am interested in your merchandise.
First post proof of ownership to this discussion which I will have law
enforcement and listed creditors verify so I as a prospective buyer
can confirm that you are the sole legitmate owner of said merchandise
with no outstanding leins against said merchandise.
After establishing that you are truly the rightful owner of your
merchandise, we can then discuss pricing.
Your move.
TMT
Lloyd E. Sponenburgh
Nov 6, 2011, 9:15:48 PM11/6/11
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Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> fired this volley in
news:58b7d732-d9b0-467d...@x2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com:
> After establishing that you are truly the rightful owner of your
> merchandise, we can then discuss pricing.
That's ass-over-tea kettle, TMT. You're acting as bad as you accuse
Gunner of doing.
You ask a price, you niggle, natter, and agree. Then you demand proof of
ownership before paying.
Do you _really_ drive up to a used car dealer and ask him to prove he
owns the cars before you negotiate? Or is this perhaps a way to talk the
price down?
Maybe--- maybe your intent is to find he does NOT have proof of
ownership, and then get a lower price.
Lloyd
news:58b7d732-d9b0-467d...@x2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com:
> After establishing that you are truly the rightful owner of your
> merchandise, we can then discuss pricing.
Gunner of doing.
You ask a price, you niggle, natter, and agree. Then you demand proof of
ownership before paying.
Do you _really_ drive up to a used car dealer and ask him to prove he
owns the cars before you negotiate? Or is this perhaps a way to talk the
price down?
Maybe--- maybe your intent is to find he does NOT have proof of
ownership, and then get a lower price.
Lloyd
Too_Many_Tools
Nov 6, 2011, 9:24:57 PM11/6/11
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On Nov 6, 7:04 pm, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 16:03:21 -0600, F. George McDuffee
>
>
>
>
>
> <gmcduf...@mcduffee-associates.us> wrote:
> >You may find the following of interest. The only economic
> >sectors with current growth are organized crime and the
> >systeme-D informal economy.
>
> >About organized crime [no not the IRS]
> >http://www.weforum.org/content/global-agenda-council-organized-crime-...
> On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 16:03:21 -0600, F. George McDuffee
>
>
>
>
>
> <gmcduf...@mcduffee-associates.us> wrote:
> >You may find the following of interest. The only economic
> >sectors with current growth are organized crime and the
> >systeme-D informal economy.
>
> >About organized crime [no not the IRS]
>
> >About systeme-d
> >http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/10/28/black_market_global_...
>
> >FWIW - what Gunner, et al, call the "Great Cull" has
> >considerable historical roots. Proper name is Jacquerie
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquerie
>
> As does the French Revolution
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Revolution
>
> The problem with the Jacqurerie was that the peasents were poorly armed
> and utimately were up against the well armed and armored French
> military.
>
> The Leftwing has no arms and armor to speak off..and the military is
> composed of the very same non leftwing peasents that will ultimately
> rise up and kill the Leftwingers enmass.
>
> Guillotine!!! Guillotine!!!!!!
> Madam LaFarge, 1791, Sarah Palin, 2012- Hide quoted text -
> >FWIW - what Gunner, et al, call the "Great Cull" has
> >considerable historical roots. Proper name is Jacquerie
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquerie
>
> As does the French Revolution
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Revolution
>
> The problem with the Jacqurerie was that the peasents were poorly armed
> and utimately were up against the well armed and armored French
> military.
>
> The Leftwing has no arms and armor to speak off..and the military is
> composed of the very same non leftwing peasents that will ultimately
> rise up and kill the Leftwingers enmass.
>
> Guillotine!!! Guillotine!!!!!!
>
> - Show quoted text -
You and who else?
> - Show quoted text -
http://www.gallup.com/poll/147839/military-personnel-veterans-give-obama-lower-marks.aspx
TMT
Benny Fishhole
Nov 6, 2011, 11:21:57 PM11/6/11
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just doesn't pay that much, even with the amount of dildos both of his
mommies go through.
Gunner Asch
Nov 6, 2011, 11:49:44 PM11/6/11
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Will TooBigaFool explain to the readers how one steals a lathe or a
milling machine? Just out of curiosity of course.
He can use as much whitespace as necessary.
Lets start off with say...hummm a Bridgeport Series 2.
This will indeed...be interesting how he explains the ways it can be
hotwired and driven off in the dead of night.
Gunner
Too_Many_Tools
Nov 7, 2011, 12:01:06 AM11/7/11
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On Nov 6, 10:49 pm, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:15:48 -0600, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
>
>
>
>
>
> <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:
> >Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> fired this volley in
> On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:15:48 -0600, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
>
>
>
>
>
> <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:
> >news:58b7d732-d9b0-467d...@x2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> After establishing that you are truly the rightful owner of your
> >> merchandise, we can then discuss pricing.
>
> >That's ass-over-tea kettle, TMT. You're acting as bad as you accuse
> >Gunner of doing.
>
> >You ask a price, you niggle, natter, and agree. Then you demand proof of
> >ownership before paying.
>
> >Do you _really_ drive up to a used car dealer and ask him to prove he
> >owns the cars before you negotiate? Or is this perhaps a way to talk the
> >price down?
>
> >Maybe--- maybe your intent is to find he does NOT have proof of
> >ownership, and then get a lower price.
>
> >Lloyd
>
> Im somewhat curious that about a few things.
>
> Will TooBigaFool explain to the readers how one steals a lathe or a
> milling machine? Just out of curiosity of course.
>
> He can use as much whitespace as necessary.
>
> Lets start off with say...hummm a Bridgeport Series 2.
>
> This will indeed...be interesting how he explains the ways it can be
> hotwired and driven off in the dead of night.
>
>
> >> After establishing that you are truly the rightful owner of your
> >> merchandise, we can then discuss pricing.
>
> >That's ass-over-tea kettle, TMT. You're acting as bad as you accuse
> >Gunner of doing.
>
> >You ask a price, you niggle, natter, and agree. Then you demand proof of
> >ownership before paying.
>
> >Do you _really_ drive up to a used car dealer and ask him to prove he
> >owns the cars before you negotiate? Or is this perhaps a way to talk the
> >price down?
>
> >Maybe--- maybe your intent is to find he does NOT have proof of
> >ownership, and then get a lower price.
>
> >Lloyd
>
> Im somewhat curious that about a few things.
>
> Will TooBigaFool explain to the readers how one steals a lathe or a
> milling machine? Just out of curiosity of course.
>
> He can use as much whitespace as necessary.
>
> Lets start off with say...hummm a Bridgeport Series 2.
>
> This will indeed...be interesting how he explains the ways it can be
> hotwired and driven off in the dead of night.
>
> Gunner- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Still waiting for that proof of purchase so we can get the deal
>
> - Show quoted text -
moving.
What is the holdup?
TMT
Steve B
Nov 7, 2011, 1:24:16 AM11/7/11
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"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:umoeb7tih9ud5pdsn...@4ax.com...
that man's head.
Steve
Gunner Asch
Nov 7, 2011, 3:57:15 AM11/7/11
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Now everyone is aware that I have nothing but the deepest contempt for
the piece of shit on 2 legs, and he has been in my killfile for a number
of years. Like finding a used tampon on ones front porch, and nudging
it into a trash can with ones toe..then closing it tightly.
But his stench does drift in on occasion via other peoples posts..so I
do occasionally have to read his spittle laced buffoonery.
Shrug
So let him describe how I steal machinery. Ill be amusedly waiting for
him to post his claims.
dca...@krl.org
Nov 7, 2011, 7:57:30 AM11/7/11
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On Nov 6, 8:55 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Gummer...I am interested in your merchandise.
>
> First post proof of ownership to this discussion which I will have law
> enforcement and listed creditors verify so I as a prospective buyer
> can confirm that you are the sole legitmate owner of said merchandise
> with no outstanding leins against said merchandise.
>
> After establishing that you are truly the rightful owner of your
> merchandise, we can then discuss pricing.
>
> Your move.
>
> TMT
Sorry TMT the first thing to establish is your ability to pay. After
>
> Gummer...I am interested in your merchandise.
>
> First post proof of ownership to this discussion which I will have law
> enforcement and listed creditors verify so I as a prospective buyer
> can confirm that you are the sole legitmate owner of said merchandise
> with no outstanding leins against said merchandise.
>
> After establishing that you are truly the rightful owner of your
> merchandise, we can then discuss pricing.
>
> Your move.
>
> TMT
you establish that you are actually a possible buyer , then you can
discuss pricing and shipping.
Dan
Benny Fishhole
Nov 7, 2011, 8:47:15 AM11/7/11
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On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 00:57:15 -0800, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:
In TMT's case, he finds used fecal covered dildos on his front porch.
That's where his two mommies line them up for his daily dildo cleaning
business he runs in the basement apartment just below their
whorehouse.
wrote:
That's where his two mommies line them up for his daily dildo cleaning
business he runs in the basement apartment just below their
whorehouse.
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Steve B
Nov 7, 2011, 10:04:48 AM11/7/11
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"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> True..but Id love to read some actual input from the manboi.
>
> Now everyone is aware that I have nothing but the deepest contempt for
> the piece of shit on 2 legs, and he has been in my killfile for a number
> of years. Like finding a used tampon on ones front porch, and nudging
> it into a trash can with ones toe..then closing it tightly.
>
> But his stench does drift in on occasion via other peoples posts..so I
> do occasionally have to read his spittle laced buffoonery.
>
> Shrug
>
> So let him describe how I steal machinery. Ill be amusedly waiting for
> him to post his claims.
>
> Gunner
>
fuzzy slippers, empty Cheetos bags and herring cans all over, used tissue on
the floor, and the monitor as a dominant piece of furniture. The man
obviously has no time for anything else in life. I do not know if he is
agoraphobic, is house bound, is handicapped, is paraplegic, or what. Maybe
living in tunnels of hoarded used TV dinner and pop pie boxes. I just know
that he's Boo Radley strange.
Steve
Gunner Asch
Nov 7, 2011, 10:28:17 AM11/7/11
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On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 14:55:33 +0000 (UTC), Black Dragon
<b...@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>F George McDuffee wrote:
>
>> You may find the following of interest. The only economic
>> sectors with current growth are organized crime and the
>> systeme-D informal economy.
>
>How does the already substantial and growing backlog machine tool
>builders around the globe are experiencing fit into this?
I keep hearing bout that "backlog" but havent seen a single sign of it,
least of all here in California..
There is a trucking company in Orange, California that has a large
yard..and I see a huge number of neatly wrapped and bundled Haas machnes
all nicely ordered ready for shipping out in that yard.
And the quantity seldem changes. So they are either replacing them in
the exact place they were in 3 weeks ago...or they are simply sitting
there..slowly sinking into the dirt......
So if there is a big backlog...I dont know who has it, what sort of
machinery it actually is and who is ordering it.
<b...@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>F George McDuffee wrote:
>
>> You may find the following of interest. The only economic
>> sectors with current growth are organized crime and the
>> systeme-D informal economy.
>
>builders around the globe are experiencing fit into this?
I keep hearing bout that "backlog" but havent seen a single sign of it,
least of all here in California..
There is a trucking company in Orange, California that has a large
yard..and I see a huge number of neatly wrapped and bundled Haas machnes
all nicely ordered ready for shipping out in that yard.
And the quantity seldem changes. So they are either replacing them in
the exact place they were in 3 weeks ago...or they are simply sitting
there..slowly sinking into the dirt......
So if there is a big backlog...I dont know who has it, what sort of
machinery it actually is and who is ordering it.
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jim
Nov 7, 2011, 11:38:11 AM11/7/11
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Black Dragon wrote:
>
> F George McDuffee wrote:
>
> > You may find the following of interest. The only economic
> > sectors with current growth are organized crime and the
> > systeme-D informal economy.
>
> > sectors with current growth are organized crime and the
> > systeme-D informal economy.
>
> How does the already substantial and growing backlog machine tool
> builders around the globe are experiencing fit into this?
Basically it doesn't fit.
> builders around the globe are experiencing fit into this?
You might also wonder how he missed the current growth in
agriculture, mining, energy extraction, and the equipment builders
that supply those industries. And don't overlook the internet which
has huge global growth.
-jim
>
> --
> Black Dragon
>
> Tomorrow, this will be part of the unchangeable past
> but fortunately, it can still be changed today.
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Hawke
Nov 7, 2011, 11:58:26 AM11/7/11
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to them is wrong in your book? Like you wouldn't want someone to tip you
off that someone you're about to do business with is not exactly on the
up and up? Do you just want to come to Gummer's defense any time someone
goes after him? Or are you afraid if you don't you'll get put on his
cull list?
Hawke
Hawke
Nov 7, 2011, 12:34:37 PM11/7/11
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the king of Usenet postings but has a whole imaginary view of TMT's
lifestyle. I know that if anyone is sitting around in a dump with
nothing but a monitor and keyboard, Cheetos, Mountain Dew, junk food
wrappers, and other various garbage strewn around him it's Gummer. For
sure about the junk all around him.
The likelihood that anyone else is living in as nasty and repellant
conditions as Gummer is quite low; so the odds are TMT has a higher
standard of living then he does. Almost everyone does. What's hard to
understand is how people like Stevo and Gummer get off calling anybody
else strange. Talk about an odd couple. Who's worse, the one that talks
incessantly about gleefully culling huge numbers of people because
they're not right wingers, or the numbnuts that believes him and looks
up to him?
Hawke
Gunner Asch
Nov 7, 2011, 12:56:10 PM11/7/11
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On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 16:14:16 +0000 (UTC), Black Dragon
<b...@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>
>It's been a great year so far. The only two weeks I've worked less than
>55hrs so far is the one I took off for vacation and the other I missed a
>few days after wrenching my friggin' back while washing a car of all things.
>It's good to be busy consistently again, haven't seen that since the late
>1990's / early 2000's. :)
What state do you live in?
California has lost about 45-50% of its machine shops in the past 36
months.
Lots..and I mean Lots of empty buildings where machine
shops/manufacturing used to be.
The Mazak guy I know is "pensive". He has sold a few machines...but only
a few this year
Gunner
<b...@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>
>It's been a great year so far. The only two weeks I've worked less than
>55hrs so far is the one I took off for vacation and the other I missed a
>few days after wrenching my friggin' back while washing a car of all things.
>It's good to be busy consistently again, haven't seen that since the late
>1990's / early 2000's. :)
What state do you live in?
California has lost about 45-50% of its machine shops in the past 36
months.
Lots..and I mean Lots of empty buildings where machine
shops/manufacturing used to be.
The Mazak guy I know is "pensive". He has sold a few machines...but only
a few this year
Gunner
dca...@krl.org
Nov 7, 2011, 1:00:53 PM11/7/11
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On Nov 7, 11:58 am, Hawke <davesmith...@digitalpath.net> wrote:
> He's just being a good Samaritan. Warning people of a potential danger
> to them is wrong in your book? Like you wouldn't want someone to tip you
> off that someone you're about to do business with is not exactly on the
> up and up? Do you just want to come to Gummer's defense any time someone
> goes after him? Or are you afraid if you don't you'll get put on his
> cull list?
>
> Hawke
I am not concerned about Gunner. It is TMT's that bothers me. Do you
> He's just being a good Samaritan. Warning people of a potential danger
> to them is wrong in your book? Like you wouldn't want someone to tip you
> off that someone you're about to do business with is not exactly on the
> up and up? Do you just want to come to Gummer's defense any time someone
> goes after him? Or are you afraid if you don't you'll get put on his
> cull list?
>
> Hawke
really think that TMT is just being a good Samaritan? Do you really
think there is anyone that reads this newsgroup that is not aware of
Gunner financial affairs?
Or do you believe as I do that TMT is just trying to provoke people?
TMT posts lots of off topic stuff and only post a very small amount of
on topic messages that he barely posts more on topic posts than you
do. TMT is scared of his own shadow. Does not use his real name and
is afraid of letting slip what state he lives in. So it is TMT that I
am calling a busy body. He sure is not a good samarirtan.
If you believe that TMT is just acting to help people, you are way
more naive than I thought.
Dan
dca...@krl.org
Nov 7, 2011, 1:12:57 PM11/7/11
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On Nov 7, 12:34 pm, Hawke <davesmith...@digitalpath.net> wrote:
>
> Well, that's Stevo for ya. He can't find a thing negative to say about
> the king of Usenet postings but has a whole imaginary view of TMT's
> lifestyle.
Again you should not post things that are so easily proved to be
>
> Well, that's Stevo for ya. He can't find a thing negative to say about
> the king of Usenet postings but has a whole imaginary view of TMT's
> lifestyle.
false. From the latest statistics for this group.
So who is the king of usenet postings? Come come don't hesitate and
say you really meant something else.
============================================================================
Top 20 posters by number of articles
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1: Too_Many_Tools
<too_many_to...@yahoo.com>...................... : 125
2: Gunner Asch
<gunnera...@gmail.com>............................. : 95
I know that if anyone is sitting around in a dump with
> nothing but a monitor and keyboard, Cheetos, Mountain Dew, junk food
> wrappers, and other various garbage strewn around him it's Gummer. For
> sure about the junk all around him.
>
a couple of posts where he actually mentioned a tool that he had.
You proved you graduated from college. TMT has never posted any
pictures or accounts of the tool he has. So maybe he does, but I can
also visualize him living with his parents.
> The likelihood that anyone else is living in as nasty and repellant
> conditions as Gummer is quite low; so the odds are TMT has a higher
> standard of living then he does. Almost everyone does. What's hard to
> understand is how people like Stevo and Gummer get off calling anybody
> else strange. Talk about an odd couple. Who's worse, the one that talks
> incessantly about gleefully culling huge numbers of people because
> they're not right wingers, or the numbnuts that believes him and looks
> up to him?
that can not tell when someone is being humorous.
You seem to be the numbnut that believes him.
Dan
>
> Hawke
Michael A. Terrell
Nov 7, 2011, 1:46:08 PM11/7/11
to
"dca...@krl.org" wrote:
>
> Or do you believe as I do that TMT is just trying to provoke people?
> TMT posts lots of off topic stuff and only post a very small amount of
> on topic messages that he barely posts more on topic posts than you
> do. TMT is scared of his own shadow. Does not use his real name and
> is afraid of letting slip what state he lives in. So it is TMT that I
> am calling a busy body. He sure is not a good samarirtan.
# "4.254.83.11"
#
# The following results may also be obtained via:
#
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#
NetRange: 4.0.0.0 - 4.255.255.255
CIDR: 4.0.0.0/8
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NetHandle: NET-4-0-0-0-1
Parent:
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OrgName: Level 3 Communications, Inc.
OrgId: LVLT
Address: 1025 Eldorado Blvd.
City: Broomfield
StateProv: CO
PostalCode: 80021
Country: US
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OrgTechEmail: ************@genuity.net
OrgTechRef: http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ARINC4-ARIN
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OrgAbuseEmail: *****@level3.com
OrgAbuseRef: http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/APL8-ARIN
--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
Just Me
Nov 7, 2011, 2:00:07 PM11/7/11
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On Nov 6, 4:52 pm, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Nov 2011 14:15:51 -0800 (PST), "dcas...@krl.org"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 6 Nov 2011 14:15:51 -0800 (PST), "dcas...@krl.org"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <dcas...@krl.org> wrote:
> >On Nov 6, 2:42 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> My problem...Gummer not paying his bills...and not paying taxes...and
> >> publicly bragging that he is proud of his sad lifestyle.
>
> >> Anyone buying anything from Gummer had better demand proof of
> >> ownership of the items or risk possibly being prosecuted for buying
> >> stolen property.
>
> >> Buying anything from Gummer can cost the buyer much more than just the
> >> cash they hand to Gummer.
>
> >> TMT
>
> >Sounds like a busy body's problems to me. I don't see any direct
> >connection to you.
>
> > Dan
>
> >On Nov 6, 2:42 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> My problem...Gummer not paying his bills...and not paying taxes...and
> >> publicly bragging that he is proud of his sad lifestyle.
>
> >> Anyone buying anything from Gummer had better demand proof of
> >> ownership of the items or risk possibly being prosecuted for buying
> >> stolen property.
>
> >> Buying anything from Gummer can cost the buyer much more than just the
> >> cash they hand to Gummer.
>
> >> TMT
>
> >Sounds like a busy body's problems to me. I don't see any direct
> >connection to you.
>
> > Dan
>
> We wont have to worry about him before too long.
>
> Ive been told that he will be killed early on, and in the most horrific
> fashion they can think up.
>
> Shrug.
>
> Works for me. Really works for me in fact.
>
> Gunner
So you still think genocide of those you perceive as being the cause
>
> Ive been told that he will be killed early on, and in the most horrific
> fashion they can think up.
>
> Shrug.
>
> Works for me. Really works for me in fact.
>
> Gunner
many of the current problems will improve your lot in life.
It has never worked and never will.
Message has been deleted
Steve B
Nov 7, 2011, 2:01:35 PM11/7/11
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"Just Me" <mutantm...@yahoo.com> wrote
So you still think genocide of those you perceive as being the cause
many of the current problems will improve your lot in life.
It has never worked and never will.
dca...@krl.org
Nov 7, 2011, 2:26:49 PM11/7/11
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On Nov 7, 1:46 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
> TMT's IP address resolves to the Des Moines, Iowa area.
>
> # "4.254.83.11"
> #
tricks to hide his real IP address.
Dan
wrote:
> TMT's IP address resolves to the Des Moines, Iowa area.
>
> # "4.254.83.11"
> #
> You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
He said something once about using I-5 . So he may be using some
tricks to hide his real IP address.
Dan
Michael A. Terrell
Nov 7, 2011, 2:45:37 PM11/7/11
to
"Kelly D. Grills" wrote:
>
> * Michael A. Terrell ?mike.t...@earthlink.net?:
> ?
> ? TMT's IP address resolves to the Des Moines, Iowa area.
> ?
> Sheesh, you have _nothing_ better to do?
Not today. Do you?
Michael A. Terrell
Nov 7, 2011, 2:46:54 PM11/7/11
to
"dca...@krl.org" wrote:
>
> On Nov 7, 1:46 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" ?mike.terr...@earthlink.net?
> wrote:
>
> ? TMT's IP address resolves to the Des Moines, Iowa area.
> ?
> ? # "4.254.83.11"
> ? #
>
> ? You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
>
> He said something once about using I-5 . So he may be using some
> tricks to hide his real IP address.
Do you think that he's smart enough to figure that out?
> He said something once about using I-5 . So he may be using some
> tricks to hide his real IP address.
--
dca...@krl.org
Nov 7, 2011, 4:09:57 PM11/7/11
to
On Nov 7, 2:46 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
> Do you think that he's smart enough to figure that out?
>
> --
> You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
Not to figure it out, but smart enough to take what someone else has
figured out and use it.
I have never bothered to learn how as I do not think I have any reason
to use anonymous surfing. But I do not think it is rocket science.
Dan
wrote:
> Do you think that he's smart enough to figure that out?
>
> --
> You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
figured out and use it.
I have never bothered to learn how as I do not think I have any reason
to use anonymous surfing. But I do not think it is rocket science.
Dan
Karl Townsend
Nov 7, 2011, 5:03:11 PM11/7/11
to
On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 14:45:37 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>"Kelly D. Grills" wrote:
>>
>> * Michael A. Terrell ?mike.t...@earthlink.net?:
>> ?
>> ? TMT's IP address resolves to the Des Moines, Iowa area.
>> ?
>> Sheesh, you have _nothing_ better to do?
>
>
> Not today. Do you?
That idiot is only one state away from me???
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>"Kelly D. Grills" wrote:
>>
>> * Michael A. Terrell ?mike.t...@earthlink.net?:
>> ?
>> ? TMT's IP address resolves to the Des Moines, Iowa area.
>> ?
>> Sheesh, you have _nothing_ better to do?
>
>
> Not today. Do you?
I thought he belonged to California.
Karl
Michael A. Terrell
Nov 7, 2011, 5:50:51 PM11/7/11
to
Karl Townsend wrote:
>
> On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 14:45:37 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
>
> ?
> ?"Kelly D. Grills" wrote:
> ??
> ?? * Michael A. Terrell ?mike.t...@earthlink.net?:
> ?? ?
> ?? ? TMT's IP address resolves to the Des Moines, Iowa area.
> ?? ?
> ?? Sheesh, you have _nothing_ better to do?
> ?
> ?
> ? Not today. Do you?
>
> That idiot is only one state away from me???
>
> I thought he belonged to California.
California was over quota on village idiots. :(
>
> That idiot is only one state away from me???
>
> I thought he belonged to California.
Michael A. Terrell
Nov 7, 2011, 5:52:45 PM11/7/11
to
"dca...@krl.org" wrote:
>
> On Nov 7, 2:46 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" ?mike.terr...@earthlink.net?
> wrote:
>
> ? Do you think that he's smart enough to figure that out?
> ?
> ? --
> ? You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
>
> Not to figure it out, but smart enough to take what someone else has
> figured out and use it.
> I have never bothered to learn how as I do not think I have any reason
> to use anonymous surfing. But I do not think it is rocket science.
It wouldn't be that hard to spot check his IP address over time. If
> Not to figure it out, but smart enough to take what someone else has
> figured out and use it.
> I have never bothered to learn how as I do not think I have any reason
> to use anonymous surfing. But I do not think it is rocket science.
he's spoofing, it will be obvious.
Jack Rabbit
Nov 7, 2011, 7:29:10 PM11/7/11
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On Nov 7, 8:52 am, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Nov 2011 14:15:51 -0800 (PST), "dcas...@krl.org"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <dcas...@krl.org> wrote:
> >On Nov 6, 2:42 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> My problem...Gummer not paying his bills...and not paying taxes...and
> >> publicly bragging that he is proud of his sad lifestyle.
>
> >> Anyone buying anything from Gummer had better demand proof of
> >> ownership of the items or risk possibly being prosecuted for buying
> >> stolen property.
>
> >> Buying anything from Gummer can cost the buyer much more than just the
> >> cash they hand to Gummer.
>
> >> TMT
>
> >Sounds like a busy body's problems to me. I don't see any direct
> >connection to you.
>
> > Dan
>
> We wont have to worry about him before too long.
>
> Ive been told that he will be killed early on, and in the most horrific
> fashion they can think up.
>
> Shrug.
>
> Works for me. Really works for me in fact.
>
> Gunner
yes gummbo, you are a disturbed piece of shit who retreats in his
> On Sun, 6 Nov 2011 14:15:51 -0800 (PST), "dcas...@krl.org"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <dcas...@krl.org> wrote:
> >On Nov 6, 2:42 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> My problem...Gummer not paying his bills...and not paying taxes...and
> >> publicly bragging that he is proud of his sad lifestyle.
>
> >> Anyone buying anything from Gummer had better demand proof of
> >> ownership of the items or risk possibly being prosecuted for buying
> >> stolen property.
>
> >> Buying anything from Gummer can cost the buyer much more than just the
> >> cash they hand to Gummer.
>
> >> TMT
>
> >Sounds like a busy body's problems to me. I don't see any direct
> >connection to you.
>
> > Dan
>
> We wont have to worry about him before too long.
>
> Ive been told that he will be killed early on, and in the most horrific
> fashion they can think up.
>
> Shrug.
>
> Works for me. Really works for me in fact.
>
> Gunner
fantasy world, the only place left where you are not a worthless
parasitic loser.
Jon Anderson
Nov 7, 2011, 10:58:40 PM11/7/11
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On 11/7/2011 2:03 PM, Karl Townsend wrote:
> I thought he belonged to California.
We don't have ALL the nuts... <G>
> I thought he belonged to California.
Jon
Gunner Asch
Nov 8, 2011, 1:15:37 AM11/8/11
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On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 10:12:57 -0800 (PST), "dca...@krl.org"
<dca...@krl.org> wrote:
>
> I know that if anyone is sitting around in a dump with
>> nothing but a monitor and keyboard, Cheetos, Mountain Dew, junk food
>> wrappers, and other various garbage strewn around him it's Gummer. For
>> sure about the junk all around him.
>>
>Well TMT claims to have too many tools, but in fact I can recall only
>a couple of posts where he actually mentioned a tool that he had.
>You proved you graduated from college. TMT has never posted any
>pictures or accounts of the tool he has. So maybe he does, but I can
>also visualize him living with his parents.
https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602
<dca...@krl.org> wrote:
>
> I know that if anyone is sitting around in a dump with
>> nothing but a monitor and keyboard, Cheetos, Mountain Dew, junk food
>> wrappers, and other various garbage strewn around him it's Gummer. For
>> sure about the junk all around him.
>>
>Well TMT claims to have too many tools, but in fact I can recall only
>a couple of posts where he actually mentioned a tool that he had.
>You proved you graduated from college. TMT has never posted any
>pictures or accounts of the tool he has. So maybe he does, but I can
>also visualize him living with his parents.
Where is Hawkes or TMTs tools?
Here are some of mine.
Gunner
Gunner Asch
Nov 8, 2011, 1:17:42 AM11/8/11
to
Accidents do happen.
Shrug
Jack Rabbit
Nov 8, 2011, 6:43:36 AM11/8/11
to
On Nov 6, 3:46 am, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
> And have available an Aciera 22 mill /drill. This has handwheels on
> all three axis and I have a modest amount of tooling and boring tools
> (in the boxes). This unit is the floor model, standing about 6' tall
> Its a Swiss drill press/milling machine and if you do a review on
> Aciera..you will note that they were considered the best of the best
> Swiss machinery.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbNiJWvESfI
>
> http://www.mullermachines.com/en/MachineTool/Details/15556/ACIERA-22-VA
>
> Also is a Taiwanese mill..40 taper, with both the verticle head..and the
> horizontal spindle. Power feed on all axis. Its probably about 2800 lbs
> Looks to be a right nice mill under the grime.
>
> Ive not powered them up as of yet, both are still in So. Cal (Santa Ana)
> but will do so this coming week and take photos of both.
>
> Any interest in either of them?
>
> If not..Ill swap out the big Delta drill press with the Aciera and use
> it in my own shop. Having the ultimate mill/drill with a 2hp
> motor...<VBG>
keep shutting down, although his chosen title is likely close to a
confession.
> And have available an Aciera 22 mill /drill. This has handwheels on
> all three axis and I have a modest amount of tooling and boring tools
> (in the boxes). This unit is the floor model, standing about 6' tall
> Its a Swiss drill press/milling machine and if you do a review on
> Aciera..you will note that they were considered the best of the best
> Swiss machinery.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbNiJWvESfI
>
> http://www.mullermachines.com/en/MachineTool/Details/15556/ACIERA-22-VA
>
> Also is a Taiwanese mill..40 taper, with both the verticle head..and the
> horizontal spindle. Power feed on all axis. Its probably about 2800 lbs
> Looks to be a right nice mill under the grime.
>
> Ive not powered them up as of yet, both are still in So. Cal (Santa Ana)
> but will do so this coming week and take photos of both.
>
> Any interest in either of them?
>
> If not..Ill swap out the big Delta drill press with the Aciera and use
> it in my own shop. Having the ultimate mill/drill with a 2hp
> motor...<VBG>
>
> Gunner
>
> One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
> in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
> and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
> not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
> Gunner Asch
Must only be a coincidence that places that do business with gummer
> Gunner
>
> One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
> in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
> and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
> not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
> Gunner Asch
keep shutting down, although his chosen title is likely close to a
confession.
Jack Rabbit
Nov 8, 2011, 6:56:14 AM11/8/11
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On Nov 7, 12:49 pm, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:15:48 -0600, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:
> >Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> fired this volley in
> >news:58b7d732-d9b0-467d...@x2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> After establishing that you are truly the rightful owner of your
> >> merchandise, we can then discuss pricing.
>
> >That's ass-over-tea kettle, TMT. You're acting as bad as you accuse
> >Gunner of doing.
>
> >You ask a price, you niggle, natter, and agree. Then you demand proof of
> >ownership before paying.
>
> >Do you _really_ drive up to a used car dealer and ask him to prove he
> >owns the cars before you negotiate? Or is this perhaps a way to talk the
> >price down?
>
> >Maybe--- maybe your intent is to find he does NOT have proof of
> >ownership, and then get a lower price.
>
> >Lloyd
>
> Im somewhat curious that about a few things.
>
> Will TooBigaFool explain to the readers how one steals a lathe or a
> milling machine? Just out of curiosity of course.
>
> He can use as much whitespace as necessary.
>
> Lets start off with say...hummm a Bridgeport Series 2.
> out
> This will indeed...be interesting how he explains the ways it can be
> hotwired and driven off in the dead of night.
>
> Gunner
Poor attempt at trying to distract from what he posted about the
machines being owned by the creditors, which would indicate that he
has likely nailed you real good!
> On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:15:48 -0600, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:
> >Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> fired this volley in
> >news:58b7d732-d9b0-467d...@x2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> After establishing that you are truly the rightful owner of your
> >> merchandise, we can then discuss pricing.
>
> >That's ass-over-tea kettle, TMT. You're acting as bad as you accuse
> >Gunner of doing.
>
> >You ask a price, you niggle, natter, and agree. Then you demand proof of
> >ownership before paying.
>
> >Do you _really_ drive up to a used car dealer and ask him to prove he
> >owns the cars before you negotiate? Or is this perhaps a way to talk the
> >price down?
>
> >Maybe--- maybe your intent is to find he does NOT have proof of
> >ownership, and then get a lower price.
>
> >Lloyd
>
> Im somewhat curious that about a few things.
>
> Will TooBigaFool explain to the readers how one steals a lathe or a
> milling machine? Just out of curiosity of course.
>
> He can use as much whitespace as necessary.
>
> Lets start off with say...hummm a Bridgeport Series 2.
> out
> This will indeed...be interesting how he explains the ways it can be
> hotwired and driven off in the dead of night.
>
> Gunner
Poor attempt at trying to distract from what he posted about the
machines being owned by the creditors, which would indicate that he
has likely nailed you real good!
Steve B
Nov 8, 2011, 9:33:29 AM11/8/11
to
"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:vaihb7hoqqaf14bmj...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 16:03:11 -0600, Karl Townsend
> <karltown...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 14:45:37 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
>><mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Kelly D. Grills" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> * Michael A. Terrell ?mike.t...@earthlink.net?:
>>>> ?
>>>> ? TMT's IP address resolves to the Des Moines, Iowa area.
>>>> ?
>>>> Sheesh, you have _nothing_ better to do?
>>>
>>>
>>> Not today. Do you?
>>
>>That idiot is only one state away from me???
>>
>>I thought he belonged to California.
>>
>>Karl
>
> If he was in California, he would have ceased posting long ago.
>
> Accidents do happen.
>
> Shrug
>
> Gunner
And illegals will "put in work" very cheaply.
> <karltown...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 14:45:37 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
>><mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Kelly D. Grills" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> * Michael A. Terrell ?mike.t...@earthlink.net?:
>>>> ?
>>>> ? TMT's IP address resolves to the Des Moines, Iowa area.
>>>> ?
>>>> Sheesh, you have _nothing_ better to do?
>>>
>>>
>>> Not today. Do you?
>>
>>That idiot is only one state away from me???
>>
>>I thought he belonged to California.
>>
>>Karl
>
> If he was in California, he would have ceased posting long ago.
>
> Accidents do happen.
>
> Shrug
>
> Gunner
Steve
Too_Many_Tools
Nov 8, 2011, 10:12:18 PM11/8/11
to
On Nov 6, 7:55 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 6, 6:53 pm, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 16:45:11 -0600, technomaNge <u...@ftc.gov> wrote:
> > >On 11/06/2011 01:42 PM, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
> > >> On Nov 6, 12:42 pm, Richard<cavel...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >>> On 11/6/2011 1:11 AM, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>
> > >>>> TMT
>
> > >>> What is your problem, TMT?
>
> > >> Good question.
> > >Buy something from him, get a receipt, turn him in to the sheriff
> > >for selling stolen property.
>
> > >Let us know how it all turns out.
>
> > >technomaNge--
> > >In a democracy, it’s your vote that counts.
> > >On Sesame Street, it’s your count that votes.
> > >Ah-ah-ah.
>
> > Ayup. Let him or anyone "set me up"
>
> > In fact..I welcome it.
>
> > Gunner- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> LOL..okay let's play the game.
>
> Gummer...I am interested in your merchandise.
>
> First post proof of ownership to this discussion which I will have law
> enforcement and listed creditors verify so I as a prospective buyer
> can confirm that you are the sole legitmate owner of said merchandise
> with no outstanding leins against said merchandise.
>
> TMT- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
It's been over 48 hours Gummer...still waiting for that proof of
purchase so we can get the deal
moving.
What is the holdup?
TMT
> On Nov 6, 6:53 pm, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 16:45:11 -0600, technomaNge <u...@ftc.gov> wrote:
> > >On 11/06/2011 01:42 PM, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
> > >> On Nov 6, 12:42 pm, Richard<cavel...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >>> On 11/6/2011 1:11 AM, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>
> > >>>> TMT
>
> > >>> What is your problem, TMT?
>
> > >> Good question.
>
> > >> My problem...Gummer not paying his bills...and not paying taxes...and
> > >> publicly bragging that he is proud of his sad lifestyle.
>
> > >> Anyone buying anything from Gummer had better demand proof of
> > >> ownership of the items or risk possibly being prosecuted for buying
> > >> stolen property.
>
> > >> Buying anything from Gummer can cost the buyer much more than just the
> > >> cash they hand to Gummer.
>
> > >> TMT
>
> > >So why don't you set up a sting?
> > >> My problem...Gummer not paying his bills...and not paying taxes...and
> > >> publicly bragging that he is proud of his sad lifestyle.
>
> > >> Anyone buying anything from Gummer had better demand proof of
> > >> ownership of the items or risk possibly being prosecuted for buying
> > >> stolen property.
>
> > >> Buying anything from Gummer can cost the buyer much more than just the
> > >> cash they hand to Gummer.
>
> > >> TMT
>
> > >Buy something from him, get a receipt, turn him in to the sheriff
> > >for selling stolen property.
>
> > >Let us know how it all turns out.
>
> > >technomaNge--
> > >In a democracy, it’s your vote that counts.
> > >On Sesame Street, it’s your count that votes.
> > >Ah-ah-ah.
>
> > Ayup. Let him or anyone "set me up"
>
> > In fact..I welcome it.
>
> > Gunner- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> LOL..okay let's play the game.
>
> Gummer...I am interested in your merchandise.
>
> First post proof of ownership to this discussion which I will have law
> enforcement and listed creditors verify so I as a prospective buyer
> can confirm that you are the sole legitmate owner of said merchandise
> with no outstanding leins against said merchandise.
>
> After establishing that you are truly the rightful owner of your
> merchandise, we can then discuss pricing.
>
> Your move.
> After establishing that you are truly the rightful owner of your
> merchandise, we can then discuss pricing.
>
>
> TMT- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
It's been over 48 hours Gummer...still waiting for that proof of
purchase so we can get the deal
moving.
What is the holdup?
TMT
PrecisionmachinisT
Nov 9, 2011, 12:09:45 AM11/9/11
to
<dca...@krl.org> wrote in message
news:ec34d235-5d0c-429f...@s6g2000vbg.googlegroups.com...
> Sorry TMT the first thing to establish is your ability to pay. After
> you establish that you are actually a possible buyer , then you can
> discuss pricing and shipping.
Dan,
I can sell you the Brooklyn Bridge but before I can set a price I need to
know if you have any money...
LOL...
Too_Many_Tools
Nov 9, 2011, 1:15:49 AM11/9/11
to
On Nov 8, 11:09 pm, "PrecisionmachinisT"
<precisionmachin...@notmail.com> wrote:
> <dcas...@krl.org> wrote in message
LOL...yeah I had to laugh when I saw one of Gummer's sock puppets rush
to defend him.
Both Danny and Mikey have some real problems.
But you will have to cut me a percentage of the deal since I own the
Brooklyn Bridge.
Of course you will have to wait for my proof of ownership for the
Brooklyn Bridge since it is on the same roll of paper in Gummer's
bathroom where his proof for his mill apparently is.
Laugh..laugh..laugh..
TMT
<precisionmachin...@notmail.com> wrote:
> <dcas...@krl.org> wrote in message
to defend him.
Both Danny and Mikey have some real problems.
But you will have to cut me a percentage of the deal since I own the
Brooklyn Bridge.
Of course you will have to wait for my proof of ownership for the
Brooklyn Bridge since it is on the same roll of paper in Gummer's
bathroom where his proof for his mill apparently is.
Laugh..laugh..laugh..
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
Nov 9, 2011, 1:30:43 AM11/9/11
to
On Nov 7, 12:46 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
> OrgTechEmail: *********...@genuity.net
for a cow or a Republican to come by so I can tip it over.
I hear the tipping limit is three cows or five Republicans.
Hey Mikey...can whois help Gummer find his proof of ownership?
Laugh..laugh..laugh...
TMT
wrote:
> "dcas...@krl.org" wrote:
>
> > Or do you believe as I do that TMT is just trying to provoke people?
> > TMT posts lots of off topic stuff and only post a very small amount of
> > on topic messages that he barely posts more on topic posts than you
> > do. TMT is scared of his own shadow. Does not use his real name and
> > is afraid of letting slip what state he lives in. So it is TMT that I
> > am calling a busy body. He sure is not a good samarirtan.
>
> TMT's IP address resolves to the Des Moines, Iowa area.
>
> # "4.254.83.11"
> #
> # The following results may also be obtained via:
> #http://whois.arin.net/rest/nets;q=4.254.83.11?showDetails=true&showAR...
>
> > Or do you believe as I do that TMT is just trying to provoke people?
> > TMT posts lots of off topic stuff and only post a very small amount of
> > on topic messages that he barely posts more on topic posts than you
> > do. TMT is scared of his own shadow. Does not use his real name and
> > is afraid of letting slip what state he lives in. So it is TMT that I
> > am calling a busy body. He sure is not a good samarirtan.
>
> TMT's IP address resolves to the Des Moines, Iowa area.
>
> # "4.254.83.11"
> #
> # The following results may also be obtained via:
> OrgTechRef: http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ARINC4-ARIN
>
> OrgTechHandle: TPL1-ARIN
> OrgTechName: Tech POC LVLT
> OrgTechPhone: +1-877-453-8353
> OrgTechEmail: *********...@level3.com
>
> OrgTechHandle: TPL1-ARIN
> OrgTechName: Tech POC LVLT
> OrgTechPhone: +1-877-453-8353
> OrgTechRef: http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/TPL1-ARIN
>
> OrgAbuseHandle: APL8-ARIN
> OrgAbuseName: Abuse POC LVLT
> OrgAbusePhone: +1-877-453-8353
> OrgAbuseEmail: **...@level3.com
>
> OrgAbuseHandle: APL8-ARIN
> OrgAbuseName: Abuse POC LVLT
> OrgAbusePhone: +1-877-453-8353
> OrgAbuseRef: http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/APL8-ARIN
>
> --
> You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
LOL...yeah...I am sitting in a corn field in Des Moines, IA waiting
>
> --
> You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
for a cow or a Republican to come by so I can tip it over.
I hear the tipping limit is three cows or five Republicans.
Hey Mikey...can whois help Gummer find his proof of ownership?
Laugh..laugh..laugh...
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
Nov 9, 2011, 1:42:04 AM11/9/11
to
On Nov 7, 10:58 am, Hawke <davesmith...@digitalpath.net> wrote:
Note that Gummer has yet to provide any proof of ownership...something
a legitimate seller could easily produce if it was asked for.
TMT
> On 11/6/2011 2:15 PM, dcas...@krl.org wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 6, 2:42 pm, Too_Many_Tools<too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 6, 2:42 pm, Too_Many_Tools<too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> My problem...Gummer not paying his bills...and not paying taxes...and
> >> publicly bragging that he is proud of his sad lifestyle.
>
> >> Anyone buying anything from Gummer had better demand proof of
> >> ownership of the items or risk possibly being prosecuted for buying
> >> stolen property.
>
> >> Buying anything from Gummer can cost the buyer much more than just the
> >> cash they hand to Gummer.
>
> >> TMT
>
> >> publicly bragging that he is proud of his sad lifestyle.
>
> >> Anyone buying anything from Gummer had better demand proof of
> >> ownership of the items or risk possibly being prosecuted for buying
> >> stolen property.
>
> >> Buying anything from Gummer can cost the buyer much more than just the
> >> cash they hand to Gummer.
>
> >> TMT
>
> > Sounds like a busy body's problems to me. I don't see any direct
> > connection to you.
>
> > Dan
>
> > connection to you.
>
> > Dan
>
> He's just being a good Samaritan. Warning people of a potential danger
> to them is wrong in your book? Like you wouldn't want someone to tip you
> off that someone you're about to do business with is not exactly on the
> up and up? Do you just want to come to Gummer's defense any time someone
> goes after him? Or are you afraid if you don't you'll get put on his
> cull list?
>
> Hawke- Hide quoted text -
> to them is wrong in your book? Like you wouldn't want someone to tip you
> off that someone you're about to do business with is not exactly on the
> up and up? Do you just want to come to Gummer's defense any time someone
> goes after him? Or are you afraid if you don't you'll get put on his
> cull list?
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Thanks Hawke...that is exactly the case.
> - Show quoted text -
Note that Gummer has yet to provide any proof of ownership...something
a legitimate seller could easily produce if it was asked for.
TMT
Jack Rabbit
Nov 9, 2011, 2:50:18 AM11/9/11
to
On Nov 9, 2:42 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 7, 10:58 am, Hawke <davesmith...@digitalpath.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 11/6/2011 2:15 PM, dcas...@krl.org wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 6, 2:42 pm, Too_Many_Tools<too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >> My problem...Gummer not paying his bills...and not paying taxes...and
> > >> publicly bragging that he is proud of his sad lifestyle.
>
> > >> Anyone buying anything from Gummer had better demand proof of
> > >> ownership of the items or risk possibly being prosecuted for buying
> > >> stolen property.
>
> > >> Buying anything from Gummer can cost the buyer much more than just the
> > >> cash they hand to Gummer.
>
> > >> TMT
>
> > > Sounds like a busy body's problems to me. I don't see any direct
> > > connection to you.
>
> > > Dan
>
> > He's just being a good Samaritan. Warning people of a potential danger
> > to them is wrong in your book? Like you wouldn't want someone to tip you
> > off that someone you're about to do business with is not exactly on the
> > up and up? Do you just want to come to Gummer's defense any time someone
> > goes after him? Or are you afraid if you don't you'll get put on his
> > cull list?
>
> > Hawke- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
> o
> On Nov 7, 10:58 am, Hawke <davesmith...@digitalpath.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 11/6/2011 2:15 PM, dcas...@krl.org wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 6, 2:42 pm, Too_Many_Tools<too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >> My problem...Gummer not paying his bills...and not paying taxes...and
> > >> publicly bragging that he is proud of his sad lifestyle.
>
> > >> Anyone buying anything from Gummer had better demand proof of
> > >> ownership of the items or risk possibly being prosecuted for buying
> > >> stolen property.
>
> > >> Buying anything from Gummer can cost the buyer much more than just the
> > >> cash they hand to Gummer.
>
> > >> TMT
>
> > > Sounds like a busy body's problems to me. I don't see any direct
> > > connection to you.
>
> > > Dan
>
> > He's just being a good Samaritan. Warning people of a potential danger
> > to them is wrong in your book? Like you wouldn't want someone to tip you
> > off that someone you're about to do business with is not exactly on the
> > up and up? Do you just want to come to Gummer's defense any time someone
> > goes after him? Or are you afraid if you don't you'll get put on his
> > cull list?
>
> > Hawke- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
> Thanks Hawke...that is exactly the case.
>
> Note that Gummer has yet to provide any proof of ownership...something
> a legitimate seller could easily produce if it was asked for.
>
> TMT
rather weird that with so many reputable sellers of used equipment
>
> Note that Gummer has yet to provide any proof of ownership...something
> a legitimate seller could easily produce if it was asked for.
>
> TMT
gummby is the person selling it ... does this equipment even exist,
and if it does its most likely just scrap metal quality.
dca...@krl.org
Nov 9, 2011, 7:28:14 AM11/9/11
to
On Nov 9, 12:09 am, "PrecisionmachinisT"
not have enough for the shipping. You best look for a mark closer to
Brooklyn.
Dan
<precisionmachin...@notmail.com> wrote:
>
> I can sell you the Brooklyn Bridge but before I can set a price I need to
> know if you have any money...
>
> LOL...
I think I have enough money to buy the bridge, but I am afraid I do
>
> I can sell you the Brooklyn Bridge but before I can set a price I need to
> know if you have any money...
>
> LOL...
not have enough for the shipping. You best look for a mark closer to
Brooklyn.
Dan
Message has been deleted
CanopyCo
Nov 9, 2011, 10:23:32 AM11/9/11
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On Nov 6, 10:49 pm, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:15:48 -0600, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
>
>
>
>
>
> <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:
> >Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> fired this volley in
> >news:58b7d732-d9b0-467d...@x2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com:
>
> On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:15:48 -0600, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
>
>
>
>
>
> <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:
> >Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> fired this volley in
> >news:58b7d732-d9b0-467d...@x2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> After establishing that you are truly the rightful owner of your
> >> merchandise, we can then discuss pricing.
>
> >> merchandise, we can then discuss pricing.
>
> >That's ass-over-tea kettle, TMT. You're acting as bad as you accuse
> >Gunner of doing.
>
> >You ask a price, you niggle, natter, and agree. Then you demand proof of
> >ownership before paying.
>
> >Do you _really_ drive up to a used car dealer and ask him to prove he
> >owns the cars before you negotiate? Or is this perhaps a way to talk the
> >price down?
>
> >Maybe--- maybe your intent is to find he does NOT have proof of
> >ownership, and then get a lower price.
>
> >Lloyd
>
> Im somewhat curious that about a few things.
>
> Will TooBigaFool explain to the readers how one steals a lathe or a
> milling machine? Just out of curiosity of course.
>
> He can use as much whitespace as necessary.
>
> Lets start off with say...hummm a Bridgeport Series 2.
>
> >Gunner of doing.
>
> >You ask a price, you niggle, natter, and agree. Then you demand proof of
> >ownership before paying.
>
> >Do you _really_ drive up to a used car dealer and ask him to prove he
> >owns the cars before you negotiate? Or is this perhaps a way to talk the
> >price down?
>
> >Maybe--- maybe your intent is to find he does NOT have proof of
> >ownership, and then get a lower price.
>
> >Lloyd
>
> Im somewhat curious that about a few things.
>
> Will TooBigaFool explain to the readers how one steals a lathe or a
> milling machine? Just out of curiosity of course.
>
> He can use as much whitespace as necessary.
>
> Lets start off with say...hummm a Bridgeport Series 2.
>
> This will indeed...be interesting how he explains the ways it can be
> hotwired and driven off in the dead of night.
>
> Gunner
Same way you steal your medical treatment.
> hotwired and driven off in the dead of night.
>
> Gunner
You buy it on credit, and then hide it so it can’t be repossessed when
you refuse to pay your debts.
CanopyCo
Nov 9, 2011, 10:33:04 AM11/9/11
to
On Nov 6, 1:42 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 6, 12:42 pm, Richard <cavel...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > On 11/6/2011 1:11 AM, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>
> > > TMT
>
> > What is your problem, TMT?
>
> Good question.
>
> On Nov 6, 12:42 pm, Richard <cavel...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > On 11/6/2011 1:11 AM, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>
> > > TMT
>
> > What is your problem, TMT?
>
> Good question.
>
> My problem...Gummer not paying his bills...and not paying taxes...and
> publicly bragging that he is proud of his sad lifestyle.
>
Then calling others a leach if they want to receive benefit from the
> publicly bragging that he is proud of his sad lifestyle.
>
insurance that they have been paying on for years, while he refuses to
use the free clinics or veterans medical, refuses to use his “machine
shop” to make things for pay, refuses to let others use his “machine
shop” to make things for pay and split the profit, or anything else
other than just be a leach.
Then he promises to pay for thousands of dollars of medical treatment
and then stiffs them for the bill.
Then goes right back to calling others a leach for wanting to use the
insurance that they paid for.
CanopyCo
Nov 9, 2011, 10:40:42 AM11/9/11
to
On Nov 7, 6:57 am, "dcas...@krl.org" <dcas...@krl.org> wrote:
>
> > TMT
And that is dependent on if the item is hot or not.
Hot items are cheaper then legitimate items due to the hot item being
free to the seller, thus all profit.
> On Nov 6, 8:55 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Gummer...I am interested in your merchandise.
>
> > First post proof of ownership to this discussion which I will have law
> > enforcement and listed creditors verify so I as a prospective buyer
> > can confirm that you are the sole legitmate owner of said merchandise
> > with no outstanding leins against said merchandise.
>
>
>
>
> > Gummer...I am interested in your merchandise.
>
> > First post proof of ownership to this discussion which I will have law
> > enforcement and listed creditors verify so I as a prospective buyer
> > can confirm that you are the sole legitmate owner of said merchandise
> > with no outstanding leins against said merchandise.
>
> > After establishing that you are truly the rightful owner of your
> > merchandise, we can then discuss pricing.
>
> > Your move.
> > merchandise, we can then discuss pricing.
>
>
> > TMT
>
> Sorry TMT the first thing to establish is your ability to pay. After
> you establish that you are actually a possible buyer , then you can
> discuss pricing and shipping.
>
> Dan
Ability to pay is dependent on price.
> Sorry TMT the first thing to establish is your ability to pay. After
> you establish that you are actually a possible buyer , then you can
> discuss pricing and shipping.
>
> Dan
And that is dependent on if the item is hot or not.
Hot items are cheaper then legitimate items due to the hot item being
free to the seller, thus all profit.
CanopyCo
Nov 9, 2011, 10:42:51 AM11/9/11
to
On Nov 7, 10:58 am, Hawke <davesmith...@digitalpath.net> wrote:
> On 11/6/2011 2:15 PM, dcas...@krl.org wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 6, 2:42 pm, Too_Many_Tools<too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> My problem...Gummer not paying his bills...and not paying taxes...and
> >> publicly bragging that he is proud of his sad lifestyle.
>
> >> My problem...Gummer not paying his bills...and not paying taxes...and
> >> publicly bragging that he is proud of his sad lifestyle.
>
> >> Anyone buying anything from Gummer had better demand proof of
> >> ownership of the items or risk possibly being prosecuted for buying
> >> stolen property.
>
> >> Buying anything from Gummer can cost the buyer much more than just the
> >> cash they hand to Gummer.
>
> >> TMT
>
> > Sounds like a busy body's problems to me. I don't see any direct
> > connection to you.
>
> > Dan
>
> He's just being a good Samaritan. Warning people of a potential danger
> to them is wrong in your book? Like you wouldn't want someone to tip you
> off that someone you're about to do business with is not exactly on the
> up and up? Do you just want to come to Gummer's defense any time someone
> goes after him? Or are you afraid if you don't you'll get put on his
> cull list?
>
> Hawke
Sounds like someone that would endorse a item that he knew wasn’t as
> >> ownership of the items or risk possibly being prosecuted for buying
> >> stolen property.
>
> >> Buying anything from Gummer can cost the buyer much more than just the
> >> cash they hand to Gummer.
>
> >> TMT
>
> > Sounds like a busy body's problems to me. I don't see any direct
> > connection to you.
>
> > Dan
>
> He's just being a good Samaritan. Warning people of a potential danger
> to them is wrong in your book? Like you wouldn't want someone to tip you
> off that someone you're about to do business with is not exactly on the
> up and up? Do you just want to come to Gummer's defense any time someone
> goes after him? Or are you afraid if you don't you'll get put on his
> cull list?
>
> Hawke
advertised.
Birds of a feather?
CanopyCo
Nov 9, 2011, 10:37:56 AM11/9/11
to
On Nov 6, 8:15 pm, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
If the dealer is reputable, then there is no reason to wonder.
If the dealer is known to be a liar with repeated incidents of
stiffing people doing business with him, then I want to cover all the
bases before I even bother to start haggling the price or even looking
over the merchandise.
<lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:
> Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> fired this volley innews:58b7d732-d9b0-467d...@x2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com:
>
> Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> fired this volley innews:58b7d732-d9b0-467d...@x2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com:
>
> > After establishing that you are truly the rightful owner of your
> > merchandise, we can then discuss pricing.
>
> > merchandise, we can then discuss pricing.
>
> That's ass-over-tea kettle, TMT. You're acting as bad as you accuse
> Gunner of doing.
>
> You ask a price, you niggle, natter, and agree. Then you demand proof of
> ownership before paying.
>
> Do you _really_ drive up to a used car dealer and ask him to prove he
> owns the cars before you negotiate? Or is this perhaps a way to talk the
> price down?
>
> Maybe--- maybe your intent is to find he does NOT have proof of
> ownership, and then get a lower price.
>
> Lloyd
I do if I’m dealing with a known liar.
> Gunner of doing.
>
> You ask a price, you niggle, natter, and agree. Then you demand proof of
> ownership before paying.
>
> Do you _really_ drive up to a used car dealer and ask him to prove he
> owns the cars before you negotiate? Or is this perhaps a way to talk the
> price down?
>
> Maybe--- maybe your intent is to find he does NOT have proof of
> ownership, and then get a lower price.
>
> Lloyd
If the dealer is reputable, then there is no reason to wonder.
If the dealer is known to be a liar with repeated incidents of
stiffing people doing business with him, then I want to cover all the
bases before I even bother to start haggling the price or even looking
over the merchandise.
Groksplynk
Nov 9, 2011, 11:46:32 AM11/9/11
to
On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 17:38:18 -0800, Too_Many_Fools_In_My_Family whined,
cried and
carried on like an moronic 8 year old little bitch and bashed out this
crap on its keyboard:
> I'm a fucktard and have no reading comprehension. Should I keep
>answering posts?
No. Find a lonely fire hydrant somewhere, sit by it and help take some
of the piss it has to absorb daily. You'll be considered a true friend
and the hydrant will thank you for it later.
cried and
carried on like an moronic 8 year old little bitch and bashed out this
crap on its keyboard:
> I'm a fucktard and have no reading comprehension. Should I keep
>answering posts?
No. Find a lonely fire hydrant somewhere, sit by it and help take some
of the piss it has to absorb daily. You'll be considered a true friend
and the hydrant will thank you for it later.
Groksplynk
Nov 9, 2011, 11:51:35 AM11/9/11
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On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 11:00:07 -0800, Just Me whined, cried and carried on
> many of the current problems will improve your lot in life. It has
> never worked and never will.
Stoopid is your middle name, right? Look up the word 'genocide' you
fucking moron, then once you've had a few of your retarded 12 year old
friends help you figure out what the pictures mean, go test the warning
label of a plastic bag on yourself. Thank you.
--
A good raghead, is a dead raghead.
like an moronic 8 year old little bitch and bashed out this crap on its
keyboard:
keyboard:
> On Nov 6, 4:52 pm, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 6 Nov 2011 14:15:51 -0800 (PST), "dcas...@krl.org"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 6 Nov 2011 14:15:51 -0800 (PST), "dcas...@krl.org"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <dcas...@krl.org> wrote:
>> >On Nov 6, 2:42 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> My problem...Gummer not paying his bills...and not paying
>> >> taxes...and publicly bragging that he is proud of his sad lifestyle.
>>
>> >> Anyone buying anything from Gummer had better demand proof of
>> >> ownership of the items or risk possibly being prosecuted for buying
>> >> stolen property.
>>
>> >> Buying anything from Gummer can cost the buyer much more than just
>> >> the cash they hand to Gummer.
>>
>> >> TMT
>>
>> >Sounds like a busy body's problems to me. I don't see any direct
>> >connection to you.
>>
>> > Dan
>>
>> >On Nov 6, 2:42 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> My problem...Gummer not paying his bills...and not paying
>> >> taxes...and publicly bragging that he is proud of his sad lifestyle.
>>
>> >> Anyone buying anything from Gummer had better demand proof of
>> >> ownership of the items or risk possibly being prosecuted for buying
>> >> stolen property.
>>
>> >> Buying anything from Gummer can cost the buyer much more than just
>> >> the cash they hand to Gummer.
>>
>> >> TMT
>>
>> >Sounds like a busy body's problems to me. I don't see any direct
>> >connection to you.
>>
>> > Dan
>>
>> We wont have to worry about him before too long.
>>
>> Ive been told that he will be killed early on, and in the most horrific
>> fashion they can think up.
>>
>> Shrug.
>>
>> Works for me. Really works for me in fact.
>>
>> Gunner
>
> So you still think genocide of those you perceive as being the cause
>>
>> Ive been told that he will be killed early on, and in the most horrific
>> fashion they can think up.
>>
>> Shrug.
>>
>> Works for me. Really works for me in fact.
>>
>> Gunner
>
> many of the current problems will improve your lot in life. It has
> never worked and never will.
Stoopid is your middle name, right? Look up the word 'genocide' you
fucking moron, then once you've had a few of your retarded 12 year old
friends help you figure out what the pictures mean, go test the warning
label of a plastic bag on yourself. Thank you.
--
A good raghead, is a dead raghead.
Groksplynk
Nov 9, 2011, 11:54:00 AM11/9/11
to
On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 16:29:10 -0800, Jack Rabbit whined, cried and carried
Only when you tell us when it stops hurting when you try to think.
on like an moronic 8 year old little bitch and bashed out this crap on its
keyboard:
> Will someone tell me how I can rape myself?
keyboard:
Only when you tell us when it stops hurting when you try to think.
Groksplynk
Nov 9, 2011, 11:56:36 AM11/9/11
to
On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 17:55:53 -0800, Too_Many_Tools whined, cried and
Go ask your mother, you fucktard.
carried on like an moronic 8 year old little bitch and bashed out this
crap on its keyboard:
> Why does my finger always smell the same as my asshole?
crap on its keyboard:
Go ask your mother, you fucktard.
Groksplynk
Nov 9, 2011, 12:01:44 PM11/9/11
to
On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 21:01:06 -0800, Too_Many_Fools_In_His_Family whined,
There's one waiting for you at the bottom of the Mariana Trench. Go get
it boy!
cried and
carried on like an moronic 8 year old little bitch and bashed out this
crap on its keyboard:
> I lick the toes of dead dogs.
carried on like an moronic 8 year old little bitch and bashed out this
crap on its keyboard:
There's one waiting for you at the bottom of the Mariana Trench. Go get
it boy!
Groksplynk
Nov 9, 2011, 12:06:19 PM11/9/11
to
On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 03:56:14 -0800, Jacks-off Rabbits whined, cried and
>teeheeheehee
Oh no! Be careful little guy! He may have a baaaaad disease! There's a
big bottle under the kitchen sink. It says 'Bleach' on it. You should
drink some of it to make sure you kill any disease he may have given you.
carried
on like an moronic 8 year old little bitch and bashed out this crap on its
keyboard:
> Too_Many_Fools_In_His_Family let me touch his wee-wee...with my lips!
on like an moronic 8 year old little bitch and bashed out this crap on its
keyboard:
>teeheeheehee
Oh no! Be careful little guy! He may have a baaaaad disease! There's a
big bottle under the kitchen sink. It says 'Bleach' on it. You should
drink some of it to make sure you kill any disease he may have given you.
Groksplynk
Nov 9, 2011, 12:10:55 PM11/9/11
to
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 07:23:32 -0800, CarppyCunt whined, cried and carried
> mouse trap and put it up my ass, *that'll* catch that damned guinea pig
> that won't come out!
While you're there, you should try to get that little boy you lost up
in there out too. He's probably hungry by now.
on
like an moronic 8 year old little bitch and bashed out this crap on its
keyboard:
> I'll show you all how much smarter I am than anyone else...I'll set a
like an moronic 8 year old little bitch and bashed out this crap on its
keyboard:
> mouse trap and put it up my ass, *that'll* catch that damned guinea pig
> that won't come out!
While you're there, you should try to get that little boy you lost up
in there out too. He's probably hungry by now.
Groksplynk
Nov 9, 2011, 12:12:52 PM11/9/11
to
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 07:37:56 -0800, CarppyCunt whined, cried and carried
Sucker!
on
like an moronic 8 year old little bitch and bashed out this crap on its
keyboard:
> I'll bitch and bitch and bitch all I want to! Wait...what?
like an moronic 8 year old little bitch and bashed out this crap on its
keyboard:
Sucker!
Groksplynk
Nov 9, 2011, 12:15:31 PM11/9/11
to
On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 21:09:45 -0800, PrissyfaggoT whined, cried and
At least what *she's* been fucking is human.
carried on like an moronic 8 year old little bitch and bashed out this
crap on its keyboard:
> My wife doesn't know I've been fucking our dog! I'm so sneaky!
crap on its keyboard:
At least what *she's* been fucking is human.
Groksplynk
Nov 9, 2011, 12:17:35 PM11/9/11
to
On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 22:15:49 -0800, Too_Many_Fools_In_His_Family whined,
Eric Cartman was right.
cried and
carried on like an moronic 8 year old little bitch and bashed out this
crap on its keyboard:
> When I get close to my cat and talk to it, it tries to bury me. Why?
carried on like an moronic 8 year old little bitch and bashed out this
crap on its keyboard:
Eric Cartman was right.
Groksplynk
Nov 9, 2011, 12:21:20 PM11/9/11
to
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 07:40:42 -0800, CarppyCunt whined, cried and carried
Not to worry, it's all you're good at. Be proud you have a career in
this economy!
on
like an moronic 8 year old little bitch and bashed out this crap on its
keyboard:
> Did I make a fool of myself again?
like an moronic 8 year old little bitch and bashed out this crap on its
keyboard:
Not to worry, it's all you're good at. Be proud you have a career in
this economy!
Groksplynk
Nov 9, 2011, 12:31:29 PM11/9/11
to
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 07:33:04 -0800, CarppyCunt whined, cried and carried
All the little boys in your neighborhood seem to think you are even
without the brain!
on
like an moronic 8 year old little bitch and bashed out this crap on its
keyboard:
> If I had a brain I'd be dangerous!
like an moronic 8 year old little bitch and bashed out this crap on its
keyboard:
All the little boys in your neighborhood seem to think you are even
without the brain!
Too_Many_Tools
Nov 9, 2011, 1:57:11 PM11/9/11
to
Free Shipping discount if you buy it in the next 60 seconds.
Just leave the cash in a bag on your back door step and we will
deliver with a smile.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
Nov 9, 2011, 1:53:18 PM11/9/11
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On Nov 9, 10:46 am, Groksplynk
LOL...and now we suddenly have another sock puppet appear out of
nowhere that attacks only those who question Gummer's ownership of the
merchandise.
Coincidence?
Only if you believe that Herman Cain is not a pervert.
Meanwhile Gummer is no where to be found.
TMT
nowhere that attacks only those who question Gummer's ownership of the
merchandise.
Coincidence?
Only if you believe that Herman Cain is not a pervert.
Meanwhile Gummer is no where to be found.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
Nov 9, 2011, 2:04:35 PM11/9/11
to
On Nov 8, 12:17 am, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 16:03:11 -0600, Karl Townsend
>
>
>
>
>
> <karltownsend....@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> >On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 14:45:37 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
> ><mike.terr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >>"Kelly D. Grills" wrote:
>
> >>> * Michael A. Terrell ?mike.terr...@earthlink.net?:
> >>> ?
> >>> ? TMT's IP address resolves to the Des Moines, Iowa area.
> >>> ?
> >>> Sheesh, you have _nothing_ better to do?
>
> >> Not today. Do you?
>
> >That idiot is only one state away from me???
>
> >I thought he belonged to California.
>
> >Karl
>
> If he was in California, he would have ceased posting long ago.
>
> Accidents do happen.
>
> Shrug
>
> Gunner
>
> One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
> in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
> and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
> not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
> Gunner Asch- Hide quoted text -
How's that search for proof of ownership going?
TMT
> On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 16:03:11 -0600, Karl Townsend
>
>
>
>
>
> <karltownsend....@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> >On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 14:45:37 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
> ><mike.terr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >>"Kelly D. Grills" wrote:
>
> >>> * Michael A. Terrell ?mike.terr...@earthlink.net?:
> >>> ?
> >>> ? TMT's IP address resolves to the Des Moines, Iowa area.
> >>> ?
> >>> Sheesh, you have _nothing_ better to do?
>
> >> Not today. Do you?
>
> >That idiot is only one state away from me???
>
> >I thought he belonged to California.
>
> >Karl
>
> If he was in California, he would have ceased posting long ago.
>
> Accidents do happen.
>
> Shrug
>
> Gunner
>
> One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
> in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
> and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
> not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
> Gunner Asch- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Yet another death threat Gummer.
> - Show quoted text -
How's that search for proof of ownership going?
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
Nov 9, 2011, 2:21:38 PM11/9/11
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>
> - Show quoted text -
Weird for us is normal for Gummer.
> - Show quoted text -
Gummer specializes in working off the books.
He is a bottom bottom feeder who drags home bits and pieces of stuff
that he finds and then resells.
He is up to his ears with leins and judgments so he expects cash to
avoid paying creditors and the tax man.
His sources of merchandise are suspect at best.
Let's assume that he has this machine...did he buy it...or did he get
it for services rendered...or did it just jump in his truck?
Remember he is shutting down yet another customer...so is this machine
from that customer...and does this customer own it free and clear...or
does his creditors have a lein against it?
And during any shutdown, many things grow legs and walk away.
And when was the last time you saw the machines at a shutdown prime
and in good working order? The good machines are the first to be sold,
relocated or traded to a dealer...while the junk remains.
My point is that anyone buying anything from Gummer without a complete
paper trail is just asking for a big headache with possible lawsuits
and police involvement if the merchandise is tainted.
To do it over the Internet with no proof of ownership or evidence of
the machine even being in working condition is a larger risk than any
successful business would take.
Meanwhile I hear that the Brooklyn Bridge is up for grabs.. ;<)
TMT
Jack Rabbit
Nov 9, 2011, 3:21:37 PM11/9/11
to
On Nov 10, 12:54 am, Groksplynk
how sad, another of gumby's imaginary friends answering posts that
don't exist.
don't exist.
Too_Many_Tools
Nov 9, 2011, 7:18:00 PM11/9/11
to
has only posted back in April before now) tells us that my request hit
an especially raw nerve...why would anyone but Gummer respond with
such emotion to this discussion and attack the ones questioning his
ownership.
The answer is no one would...unless they had an financial interest in
the transaction.
Now Gummer could claim that it is a liberal conspiracy to bring down
the United States by preventing him from buying more tin foil for his
new line of hats.
TMT
Jack Rabbit
Nov 10, 2011, 8:22:32 AM11/10/11
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Garlicdude
Nov 10, 2011, 9:11:35 AM11/10/11
to
Black Dragon wrote:
> Gunner Asch wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 16:14:16 +0000 (UTC), Black Dragon
>> <b...@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>
>>> It's been a great year so far. The only two weeks I've worked less than
>>> 55hrs so far is the one I took off for vacation and the other I missed a
>>> few days after wrenching my friggin' back while washing a car of all things.
>>> It's good to be busy consistently again, haven't seen that since the late
>>> 1990's / early 2000's. :)
>
>> What state do you live in?
>
> New York. While the State has been bleeding jobs close to the pace of
> California, Upstate NY, and especially Western New York where I am has
> done a good job of hanging on to it's strong manufacturing base.
>
Most of the shops that I'm in contact with are doing OK, not
great, but not hurting.
That says something for NY given that IBM, Kodak, and Zerox
have all dialed down their machined parts requirements.
>> California has lost about 45-50% of its machine shops in the past 36
>> months.
>
--
Regards,
Steve Saling
aka The Garlic Dude ©
Gilroy, CA
The Garlic Capital of The World
http://tinyurl.com/2avg58
> Gunner Asch wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 16:14:16 +0000 (UTC), Black Dragon
>> <b...@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>
>>> It's been a great year so far. The only two weeks I've worked less than
>>> 55hrs so far is the one I took off for vacation and the other I missed a
>>> few days after wrenching my friggin' back while washing a car of all things.
>>> It's good to be busy consistently again, haven't seen that since the late
>>> 1990's / early 2000's. :)
>
>> What state do you live in?
>
> New York. While the State has been bleeding jobs close to the pace of
> California, Upstate NY, and especially Western New York where I am has
> done a good job of hanging on to it's strong manufacturing base.
>
Most of the shops that I'm in contact with are doing OK, not
great, but not hurting.
That says something for NY given that IBM, Kodak, and Zerox
have all dialed down their machined parts requirements.
>> California has lost about 45-50% of its machine shops in the past 36
>> months.
>
--
Regards,
Steve Saling
aka The Garlic Dude ©
Gilroy, CA
The Garlic Capital of The World
http://tinyurl.com/2avg58
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