Socket on a stick
Jon Danniken
attach the water lines to my bathroom sink, as there isn't enough clearance
up there to tighten it with a wrench (you can barely get yer fingers up in
there).
The socket was fifty cents from a pawnshop, which was cut using a thin
abrasive disk in an angle grinder. I left a small shoulder on the base of
the socket to keep it from sliding off of the hexagon nut it will tighten.
The socket and the stick were welded together using 6013 GMAW rod and a
Miller buzzbox; I was very surprised at how easy it was to weld these
together (yes my welds look like turkeysh*t, but they will function in this
application).
Here's a few more thousand words:
http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/SocketStick01.jpg
http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/SocketStick02.jpg
http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/SocketStick03.jpg
http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/SocketStick04.jpg
Jon
Jon Danniken
> 6013 GMAW rod
Bah, that should have said SMAW. Stick welding.
Jon
Tim Wescott
So like a crow's foot, only a lot weaker?
(Ignore the snarkiness -- that's just to keep in shape).
Jon Danniken
>
> So like a crow's foot, only a lot weaker?
>
> (Ignore the snarkiness -- that's just to keep in shape).
Like a crow's foot, but a lot easier to use, can't slide off, and engages
the nut in more positions.
Jon
Up North
"Tim Wescott" <t...@seemywebsite.com> wrote in message
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A 12 point crow's foot with a handy shoulder to keep it on the hex. I like
it! Lisle Tool pays for ideas like this.
http://www.lislecorp.com/inventor_program.cfm
Steve
Wild_Bill
similar problem with most plumbing jobs.
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metalworking projects
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whit3rd
> On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 09:11:06 -0800, Jon Danniken wrote:
> > to attach the water lines to my bathroom sink
> > The socket was fifty cents from a pawnshop
> So like a crow's foot, only a lot weaker?
You could upgrade to a $1 impact socket, if you find
the right pawnshop. I'd HAVE to upgrade, my welding
skills aren't up to 'turkeyshit' bead quality...
Steve W.
Is it anything like a Jalape�o on a stick ? :-)
--
Steve W.
Wes
>So like a crow's foot, only a lot weaker?
>
>(Ignore the snarkiness -- that's just to keep in shape).
But the 30 degrees of minimim index was likely priceless in his application.
Wes
Joseph Gwinn
"Jon Danniken" <jondanS...@yaSPAMhoo.com> wrote:
Looks like a better basin wrench.
<http://www.ridgid.com/Tools/Basin-Wrench>
Joe Gwinn
Snag
Only if he named it Jose ...
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'39 WLDD "PopCycle"
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Stormin Mormon
that.
Here is what less creative people use:
http://www.google.com/products?q=basin+wrench+&hl=en&aq=f
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Learn more about Jesus
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.
"Jon Danniken" <jondanS...@yaSPAMhoo.com>
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Howard Eisenhauer
Nicwe job but wouldn't it have been faster/easier just to buy a basin
wrench?
http://images.google.ca/images?gbv=2&hl=en&sa=1&q=+basin+wrench&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&start=0
H.
Joe Pfeiffer
And requiring a lot less clearance -- remember, that was one of his
constraints.
--
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be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours;
and this we should do freely and generously. (Benjamin Franklin)
kfvo...@gmail.com
wrote:
>
> H.
I'm pretty sure that would break one of the groups rules.
Karl
Leo Lichtman
"Jon Danniken" wrote: (clip) (yes my welds look like turkeysh*t, but they
will function in this
> application). (clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'm not qualified to comment on the appearance of your turkey droppings, but
they look better than mine would have.
But I do want to comment on the photographs. Excellent macro-photography.
Sharp, well composed, uncluttered, well lit.
Pinstripe Sniper
>Here a tool I made this week, I call it a socket on a stick. I made it to
>attach the water lines to my bathroom sink, as there isn't enough clearance
>up there to tighten it with a wrench (you can barely get yer fingers up in
>there).
Nice job and way to use the bargain priced bits to make what you need.
fyi heres a small company that is coming out with a ratcheting flare
wrench. Admittedly, the ratcheting makes for a larger head/greater
clearance & working room
http://www.riggioinnovations.com/
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Nice, I've got a few custom by chop saw and welder sockets myself. So a
basin wrench wouldn't fit?
Tim Wescott
<snip>
> and
> engages the nut in more positions.
>
> Jon
When I was younger I always looked for that in a girlfriend.
Lloyd E. Sponenburgh
@news.eternal-september.org:
> Nice, I've got a few custom by chop saw and welder sockets myself. So a
> basin wrench wouldn't fit?
>
>
Basin wrench? BASIN WRENCH? They make something to DO that job?
<G<G>G>
(Also -- oxygen sensor wrench; fuel line fitting wrench;... ad nauseum)
LLoyd
Bob Engelhardt
make/invent a new tool.
Re basin wrenches: I have one & have used it a couple if times. Never
with much success. It's one of those one-size-fits-all that is really a
one-size-fits-none. There are few enough common plumbing fitting sizes
that you could make a Jon Wrench (tm) <G> for each & trash the basin
wrench. Sounds like a plan - I'll put it on my list.
When I get around to making mine, I'm thinking about a variation.
Instead of welding an extension to the side of the cut socket, how about
welding another socket to it? Partially cut away to improve fit &
minimize clearance? I'd do this only 'cause sockets are more available
than extensions.
Thanks for the good idea,
Bob
whit3rd
> fyi heres a small company that is coming out with a ratcheting flare
> wrench. Admittedly, the ratcheting makes for a larger head/greater
> clearance & working room
>
> http://www.riggioinnovations.com/
Swagelock has had such a wrench for ... at least a couple of decades.
It's not clear how well it would work for heavy torque, but it's a
nice item
for brass compression fittings. I can't find it in their current
catalogue, though.
The principle is to use springloaded teeth so they bear the force in
CW
rotation, retract into a well in CCW rotation. Flip the wrench over
to unscrew the joint. I recall cylindrical teeth, axis parallel to
the pipeline,
sliding on their circular end surfaces.
Mark Rand
wrote:
>When I get around to making mine, I'm thinking about a variation.
>Instead of welding an extension to the side of the cut socket, how about
>welding another socket to it? Partially cut away to improve fit &
>minimize clearance? I'd do this only 'cause sockets are more available
>than extensions.
>
>Thanks for the good idea,
>Bob
Sounds like a plan. I've got a butchered basin wrench that only just did the
job first time around. It'd be nice to make a tool that would work properly
next time.
Mark Rand
RTFM
Bob Engelhardt
> ...
> When I get around to making mine, ...
Awright, this wouldn't let go - I made one, too:
http://home.comcast.net/~bobengelhardt/BasinWrench.jpg
Bob
Winston
(...)
> Instead of welding an extension to the side of the cut socket, how about
> welding another socket to it?
Sometimes an extension is a better idea.
I had a chronic issue with poor fit between my oil filter
'socket' and any extension I used. Darned extension
would fall out as soon as I attempted to yank the wrench
off the filter. I clamped an old extension in a vise,
snapped the oil wrench on it, heated the end of the extension
with my OA torch and peened the end flat.
This extension stays fixed to the wrench now. :)
--Winston
Larry Jaques
<csr...@NOTyahoo.com> scrawled the following:
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bam/bam/bam/bam/bam. Tough act!
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needed: They must be fit for it. They must not do too much of it. And
they must have a sense of success in it.
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Bob La Londe
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> "Bob La Londe" <nos...@nospam.no> fired this volley in news:hl83g8$3kb$1
> @news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> Nice, I've got a few custom by chop saw and welder sockets myself. So a
>> basin wrench wouldn't fit?
>>
>>
>
> Basin wrench? BASIN WRENCH? They make something to DO that job?
I've got two or three of them.
> <G<G>G>
>
> (Also -- oxygen sensor wrench;
Don't have one of those. (Maybe I do and didn't know what it was called.)
> fuel line fitting wrench;...
Yeah, its called a bone wrench. I have a whole set of them.
ad nauseum)
>
Well, of course. Harley makes a custom deep socket for EVO clutch nuts too.
I cut a socket in half and welded a piece of pipe in the middle for mine.
Martin H. Eastburn
a C type with teeth within. A thin cross bar is through the end for leverage.
I've had mine for years - used it twice so far. Have flaring tools and pipe
wrenches. I try to fix most anything around the place myself. I'll get
and expert when needed - e.g. sink disposer that needed power that wasn't there.
I've replaced furnaces and all sorts about houses and shops.
I slowly build skills through the years.
I have a metal and wood lathe, metal and wood bandsaw, mill, drill press
welders and plasma... two surface grinders and home made 3-phase.
I had an electric hand drill (drill motor in those days) at the age of 5.
Martin
DoN. Nichols
> On Feb 13, 8:03�pm, veryso...@nocando.com (Pinstripe Sniper) wrote:
>
>> fyi heres a small company that is coming out with a ratcheting flare
>> wrench. �Admittedly, the ratcheting makes for a larger head/greater
>> clearance & working room
>>
>> http://www.riggioinnovations.com/
>
> Swagelock has had such a wrench for ... at least a couple of decades.
> It's not clear how well it would work for heavy torque, but it's a
> nice item
> for brass compression fittings.
Also for the Stainless Steel compression fittings by Swagelock,
which suggests a higher torque than you are apparently expecting.
> I can't find it in their current
> catalogue, though.
But I have one picked up at a tool flea market. A pity that it
only covers two sizes.
> The principle is to use springloaded teeth so they bear the force in
> CW
> rotation, retract into a well in CCW rotation. Flip the wrench over
> to unscrew the joint. I recall cylindrical teeth, axis parallel to
> the pipeline,
> sliding on their circular end surfaces.
That is correct -- with levers guiding their path so they don't
get lost.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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Don Foreman
>Here a tool I made this week, I call it a socket on a stick. I made it to
>attach the water lines to my bathroom sink, as there isn't enough clearance
>up there to tighten it with a wrench (you can barely get yer fingers up in
>there).
>
>The socket was fifty cents from a pawnshop, which was cut using a thin
>abrasive disk in an angle grinder. I left a small shoulder on the base of
>the socket to keep it from sliding off of the hexagon nut it will tighten.
>
>The socket and the stick were welded together using 6013 GMAW rod and a
>Miller buzzbox; I was very surprised at how easy it was to weld these
>together (yes my welds look like turkeysh*t, but they will function in this
>application).
>
>Here's a few more thousand words:
>
>http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/SocketStick01.jpg
>http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/SocketStick02.jpg
>http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/SocketStick03.jpg
>http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/SocketStick04.jpg
>
>Jon
Neatly done, Jon! I wouldn't call those turkeysh*t welds at all, but
you may have higher standards than I. They look OK to me. Not as
pretty as TIG might do but who can see them under the sink anyway?
Don Foreman
wrote:
>On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 09:11:06 -0800, Jon Danniken wrote:
>
>> Here a tool I made this week, I call it a socket on a stick. I made it
>> to attach the water lines to my bathroom sink, as there isn't enough
>> clearance up there to tighten it with a wrench (you can barely get yer
>> fingers up in there).
>>
>> The socket was fifty cents from a pawnshop, which was cut using a thin
>> abrasive disk in an angle grinder. I left a small shoulder on the base
>> of the socket to keep it from sliding off of the hexagon nut it will
>> tighten.
>>
>> The socket and the stick were welded together using 6013 GMAW rod and a
>> Miller buzzbox; I was very surprised at how easy it was to weld these
>> together (yes my welds look like turkeysh*t, but they will function in
>> this application).
>>
>> Here's a few more thousand words:
>>
>> http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/SocketStick01.jpg
>> http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/SocketStick02.jpg
>> http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/SocketStick03.jpg
>> http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/SocketStick04.jpg
>>
>> Jon
>
>So like a crow's foot, only a lot weaker?
>
>(Ignore the snarkiness -- that's just to keep in shape).
Sometimes a tool like this will fit where a crow's foot won't. I've
made and used tools like this. One such was for the top of the rear
struts of VW Rabbits.
As you frequently come to this group with questions for free help to
aid your quests for profit on EBay, perhaps you snarkiness might be
better practiced elsewhere?
KG
One HELL of a great IDEA, thanks
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Snag
The O2 sensor wrench is basically a socket with a slot up the side for the
wires . And I made my SPROCKET nut wrench for the Harley too , same way you
did - and it also fits Shovelhead and TC sprocket/pulley nuts .
And I really wish I had a set of tubing fitting wrenchs ...
Jon Danniken
Hehe, nice work, Bob, what process didja use for the welds?
Jon
Jon Danniken
>
>
> Neatly done, Jon! I wouldn't call those turkeysh*t welds at all, but
> you may have higher standards than I. They look OK to me. Not as
> pretty as TIG might do but who can see them under the sink anyway?
Thanks Don, I appreciate it. I do admit my welding has gotten a lot better
in the year or two that I've had the buzzbox in the carport. It's nice to
be able to actually weld stuff when you need to; opens up a lot of
opportunities beyond using fasteners.
Jon
Jon Danniken
> A 12 point crow's foot with a handy shoulder to keep it on the hex. I
> like it! Lisle Tool pays for ideas like this.
> http://www.lislecorp.com/inventor_program.cfm
> Steve
Ooh, thanks for the idea Steve! I might just have to consider this!
Jon
Jon Danniken
> That's a good rig. I've built some odd tools like
> that.
>
> Here is what less creative people use:
> http://www.google.com/products?q=basin+wrench+&hl=en&aq=f
A- HA! I knew there had to be a "proper" tool to solve this problem, but I
came up with my solution before I had a chance to post the question over at
terrylove's forum.
Besides, I'm a sucker for any excuse to do some welding.
Jon
Jon Danniken
> Tim Wescott <t...@seemywebsite.com> writes:
>>
>> So like a crow's foot, only a lot weaker?
>
> And requiring a lot less clearance -- remember, that was one of his
> constraints.
Aye, it had to attach the lines up in a four inch deep recess underneath a
wall hanging sink:
http://i45.tinypic.com/qodg9k.jpg
Jon
Jon Danniken
Hey thanks Leo, I appreciate that.
Jon
Jon Danniken
>
> Nice, I've got a few custom by chop saw and welder sockets myself. So a
> basin wrench wouldn't fit?
I wasn't aware of such a tool at the time I made mine, which led to me
making it myself. It was pretty tight up in there, but if all I had was a
basin wrench I imagine I'd have found a way to get it to work.
Jon
Bob Engelhardt
> ... what process didja use for the welds?
MIG
Larry Jaques
<bobeng...@comcast.net> scrawled the following:
WhooEE, Bawb. You know how to cook. Y'even _Mexichromed_ it!
I don't see any need whatsoever for ratcheting because the nut is hand
tightened (they're very loose fits unless you hamhand them into a
crossthreaded condition, then no amount of pressure will get them to
seal.)
--
It's a great life...once you weaken.
--author James Hogan
Leo Lichtman
"Jon Danniken" I wasn't aware of such a tool at the time I made mine, which
> making it myself. It was pretty tight up in there, but if all I had was a
> basin wrench I imagine I'd have found a way to get it to work.
Sometimes doing things the way you know beats doing the research and finding
a "better" way.
Bob Engelhardt
> ... I don't see any need whatsoever for ratcheting because the nut is hand
> tightened ...
The Jon Wrench serves 2 needs: one as in Jon's case where he can't get
his hand in there to do the tightening, and the 2nd for tightening and
loosening connections other than the braided-line type in Jon's pictures.
Bob
William Wixon
"Bob Engelhardt" <bobeng...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:hlcm1...@news2.newsguy.com...
those basin wrenches are a pain in the ass! seems to me you'd have a lot
more control with a jon wrench.
b.w.
Larry Jaques
<jondanS...@yaSPAMhoo.com> scrawled the following:
If that's so, why does it still look like turkey droppings (your
term), Jon?
You should be outwelding -Ernie- at this point. <vbg>
Martin H. Eastburn
I've made DIN plug shell to fix my son's music machine...
Would have gone to a repair guy or part from Germany - wasn't
a US standard DIN, it was a little fancy.
Someone had stepped on the original one.
Martin
Don Foreman
Roger that! I've used both. Laying on back, head under sink,
flashlight in teeth, I do *NOT* enjoy futzing with a basin wrench in
tight space which is about like trying to rape a wildcat with a wet
noodle.
James Waldby
> On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:24:25 -0600, Tim Wescott wrote:
>>On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 09:11:06 -0800, Jon Danniken wrote:
>>> Here a tool I made this week, I call it a socket on a stick. I made
>>> it to attach the water lines to my bathroom sink, as there isn't
>>> enough clearance up there to tighten it with a wrench
>>> Here's a few more thousand words:
>>> http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/SocketStick01.jpg
>>> http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/SocketStick02.jpg
>>> http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/SocketStick03.jpg
>>> http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/SocketStick04.jpg
>>>
>>> Jon
>>
>>So like a crow's foot, only a lot weaker?
>>
>>(Ignore the snarkiness -- that's just to keep in shape).
> As you frequently come to this group with questions for free help to
> aid your quests for profit on EBay, perhaps you snarkiness might be
> better practiced elsewhere?
I haven't seen any such posts [info requests to aid and abet ebay
selling] by Tim Wescott -- perhaps you are thinking of someone else?
--
jiw
Gerald Miller
That's why I was happy to see that the new kitchen faucet that SWMBO
needed came with braided hoses about 18" long, the only thing I had to
deal with was the nut, washer and clamp plate to hold it in place.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada
Don Foreman
wrote:
You are absolutely right. I was thinking of Mr. Noble. My apologies
to Tim for my senior brainfart and thank you for noticing.
Larry Jaques
<dfor...@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> scrawled the following:
>On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:50:33 -0600, "William Wixon"
><wwi...@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Bob Engelhardt" <bobeng...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>news:hlcm1...@news2.newsguy.com...
>>> Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>> ... I don't see any need whatsoever for ratcheting because the nut is
>>>> hand
>>>> tightened ...
>>>
>>> The Jon Wrench serves 2 needs: one as in Jon's case where he can't get his
>>> hand in there to do the tightening,
If you're at all dextrous, all you need are two fingers to thread and
run up a nut. The thumb and index finger combo is best, but index and
bird will do for those tight spots. ;)
>and the 2nd for tightening and
>>> loosening connections other than the braided-line type in Jon's pictures.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>those basin wrenches are a pain in the ass! seems to me you'd have a lot
>>more control with a jon wrench.
>>
>>b.w.
>
>Roger that! I've used both. Laying on back, head under sink,
>flashlight in teeth, I do *NOT* enjoy futzing with a basin wrench in
>tight space which is about like trying to rape a wildcat with a wet
>noodle.
Several tips from broken backs of old: Take a large beach towel to
pad your back for the position you have to get into while working
under the sink. Use a head mounted flashlight to free both hands. And
if you don't wear glasses, wear a brand new pair of goggles to keep
the crap out of your eyes. (Rust from sink hold-down hardware is
absolute HELL in the eyes. DAMHIKT) I have large hands but can get at
least one into every sink I've tried yet. Tighten the nut as far as
possible by hand, then use the basin or TD wrench on the nut for the
last half turn. It saves a lot of struggle. Basin wrenches are not fun
to use. for sloppy basin wrenches, a rubber band wrapped multiple
times around the shaft can make a difference, holding the wrench head
from falling over too far.
If you can't get at least one hand up there, it is sometimes easier
to remove the entire faucet assembly to install new lines than it is
to fight with tiny openings. Choose your battle.
2 last things: Always install the top of the supply line first so you
don't have to fight angles in that tight spot. And always spring for
the braided lines. It's only (as much as) $10 more for the pair, but
you'll never, ever have to worry about them bursting and flooding you
out. It's cheap peace of mind.
Jon Danniken
Yeah, give me about 30 years for that one! ;->
Jon
Bob Engelhardt
>... And always spring for the braided lines. ...
Yes! Oh, the misery of those soft copper lines - cutting them to the
EXACT length required, bending them to the EXACT shape required (watch
out for kinks), and then the compression fitting always leaks. More God
Damn aggravation!
Bob
john
> On 2010-02-14, whit3rd<whi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 13, 8:03 pm, veryso...@nocando.com (Pinstripe Sniper) wrote:
>>
>>> fyi heres a small company that is coming out with a ratcheting flare
>>> wrench. Admittedly, the ratcheting makes for a larger head/greater
>>> clearance& working room
>>>
>>> http://www.riggioinnovations.com/
>>
>> Swagelock has had such a wrench for ... at least a couple of decades.
>> It's not clear how well it would work for heavy torque, but it's a
>> nice item
>> for brass compression fittings.
>
> Also for the Stainless Steel compression fittings by Swagelock,
> which suggests a higher torque than you are apparently expecting.
>
>> I can't find it in their current
>> catalogue, though.
>
> But I have one picked up at a tool flea market. A pity that it
> only covers two sizes.
>
>> The principle is to use springloaded teeth so they bear the force in
>> CW
>> rotation, retract into a well in CCW rotation. Flip the wrench over
>> to unscrew the joint. I recall cylindrical teeth, axis parallel to
>> the pipeline,
>> sliding on their circular end surfaces.
>
> That is correct -- with levers guiding their path so they don't
> get lost.
>
> Enjoy,
> DoN.
>
I have a set of crowfoot ratcheting tubing wrenchs for many years. I
don't remember the manufacturer but they were of high quality and took a
lot of torque.
Another way around the problem of reaching a buried fitting is to get a
regular tubing wrench and bend it to the proper angle to reach the nut.
I have a bunch of these special application tools that I made. The ones
that I use most today are the long extention allen wrenches, longer than
the ones you can buy and more side clearance than a socket set of allen
wrenches.
John
Jon Danniken
But once they are installed you never have to worry about them failing. The
braided ones, well, there is a rubber gasket at each end to fail someday,
there is a crimp which can fail, and the plastic tubing can also fail.
They also are harder to clean, with the braid serving as a funk wick.
Installation is a helluva lot easier, though, which makes them pretty darned
irresistable even for me.
Jon
Gerald Miller
That's why I was quite happy to pay the $0.50 the lady wanted for two
three inch brass 3/4" nipples with braided washer hoses sort of
attached.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada
Larry Jaques
<bobeng...@comcast.net> scrawled the following:
>Larry Jaques wrote:
I had a threesome of copper pipeed shutoff valves to replace at a
client's house the other day. All 3 were the old style, about 1/2"
deep. The new valves all had only about 7/16" depth to the receiver
cup so they all would have leaked. I had to hacksaw the tiny stub from
one toilet source since I didn't have room to cut off and recrimp.
That was fun, hugging the terlit and hacksawing sideways with much
weaker muscles.
Then my mini tubing cutter broke in half on the easy lines under the
sink and had to replace it. 3 hours later, on what should have been a
1 hour job for screw-ons, I had 3 non-leaking lines and 1 dripping
faucet. Oy vay...
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Larry Jaques
<jondanS...@yaSPAMhoo.com> scrawled the following:
>Bob Engelhardt wrote:
>> Larry Jaques wrote:
>>> ... And always spring for the braided lines. ...
>>
>> Yes! Oh, the misery of those soft copper lines - cutting them to the
>> EXACT length required, bending them to the EXACT shape required (watch
>> out for kinks), and then the compression fitting always leaks. More
>> God Damn aggravation!
>
>But once they are installed you never have to worry about them failing. The
>braided ones, well, there is a rubber gasket at each end to fail someday,
>there is a crimp which can fail, and the plastic tubing can also fail.
>
>They also are harder to clean, with the braid serving as a funk wick.
So tape 'em with self-vulcanizing rubber (I have it in 6 colors),
shrink-sleeve 'em, or paint 'em if you don't like that. Most people
have trouble even seeing down there, let alone cleaning. <icky grin>
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>Installation is a helluva lot easier, though, which makes them pretty darned
>irresistable even for me.
Yeah, they are nice.
Larry Jaques
<grmi...@rogers.com> scrawled the following:
Indeed. Sucha deal!
Sano
news:joegwinn-58FF29...@news.giganews.com:
> In article <7to4pe...@mid.individual.net>,
> "Jon Danniken" <jondanS...@yaSPAMhoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Here a tool I made this week, I call it a socket on a stick. I made
>> it to attach the water lines to my bathroom sink, as there isn't
>> enough clearance up there to tighten it with a wrench (you can
>> barely get yer fingers up in there).
>>
>> The socket was fifty cents from a pawnshop, which was cut using a
>> thin abrasive disk in an angle grinder. I left a small shoulder on
>> the base of the socket to keep it from sliding off of the hexagon
>> nut it will tighten.
>>
>> The socket and the stick were welded together using 6013 GMAW rod
>> and a Miller buzzbox; I was very surprised at how easy it was to
>> weld these together (yes my welds look like turkeysh*t, but they
>> will function in this application).
>>
>> Here's a few more thousand words:
>>
>> http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/SocketStick01.jpg
>> http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/SocketStick02.jpg
>> http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/SocketStick03.jpg
>> http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/SocketStick04.jpg
>
> Looks like a better basin wrench.
>
> <http://www.ridgid.com/Tools/Basin-Wrench>
Something I would have killed for as a yout'.
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An older buddy has let me use his back garage for the last few months.
As I've weatherproofed and generally, cleaned it up, I found five of
those flippin' wrenches. Sheez
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Leo Lichtman
"Sano" wrote: Something I would have killed for as a yout'.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
What's a yout'?
Michael A. Terrell
Didn't you see 'My Cousin Vinny'?
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Snag
> Leo Lichtman wrote:
>>
>> "Sano" wrote: Something I would have killed for as a yout'.
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> What's a yout'?
>
>
> Didn't you see 'My Cousin Vinny'?
>
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Leo Lichtman
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Didn't you see 'My Cousin Vinny'?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Yes. How do you think I was able to quote that line?
:-)
DoN. Nichols
Local dialect (somewhere) for "youth". :-)
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Larry Jaques
<gregs.po...@gmail.com> scrawled the following:
Serendipity found me last month when I found one of those in the weeds
behind the house I was working on. I needed it that day to install a
new faucet in the kitchen sink. A little bit of oil got the button
working so I could telescope it, and the thing worked like a
champ...to break off the "fingers" on the plastic nuts which had both
apparently been crossthreaded all the way up to the sink. I ended up
dismantling the faucet and cutting it into 3 pieces, then snapping the
plastic base into many pieces, so I could -finally- drop the 2 brass
fittings through the holes in the sink...and be done with the old one.
That was good for 2 solid hours of fighting. To top it off, one of the
copper tubes I cut in two decided to cut back. My thumb is almost
healed now.
When you need a basin wrench, they're _damned_ handy.
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Michael A. Terrell
Snag wrote:
>
> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> > Leo Lichtman wrote:
> >>
> >> "Sano" wrote: Something I would have killed for as a yout'.
> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> What's a yout'?
> >
> >
> > Didn't you see 'My Cousin Vinny'?
> >
> Nope , is he missin' ?
Yes, since 1992.