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Why the GOP should still be nervous
By: Jim VandeHei and James Hohmann
January 22, 2010 12:56 AM EST
Republicans are riding high in the wake of Scott Brown’s win, talking
up an authentic resurgence for their party and a real chance for
reclaiming power.
Don’t bet on it.
Yes, it is indisputable that the GOP has surged, especially in the
past several months. Republicans won three major races in tough states
— and watched the percentage of Americans who prefer Republicans over
Democrats in hypothetical matchups rise to the highest level since
2004.
But it is also indisputable that the rise has little to do with the
voters’ view of Republicans writ large — and that the very concerns
that got them booted from power persist today.
Voters “have fallen out of love with the Democrats,” said Rep. Adam
Putnam (R-Fla.). “They haven’t yet fallen back in love with us.”
POLITICO talked with many of the country’s most experienced political
operatives, and each one warned Republicans against irrational
exuberance.
Former New York Rep. Susan Molinari: “We have earned the right to crow
a little bit. But the lesson we’ve learned from all of these races is
that you ... can’t take anything for granted.”
Republican strategist Mary Matalin: “Killer negatives have lost their
magic. This requires no attitude. Now we have the players on the
field, and we just need to play. We remember how to do it.”
Former Rep. Vin Weber (R-Minn.): “Voters don’t want triumphalism. They
still like the president as a person, so they don’t want to see a
party celebrating his decline. ... The country wants to see the
parties working together.”
Matthew Dowd, who consulted for former President George W. Bush and
voted for President Barack Obama: “If any Republicans are running
around town celebrating in jubilation, they should remember that in
the country’s constant state of change, neither party gets more than a
moment.”
Republicans on Capitol Hill hope their moment will come again in
November. But the numbers are daunting across the board.
The most important ones: 40, the net seats to win the House, and 10,
the net seats to win the Senate, are very difficult — perhaps
impossible in the case of the Senate — to achieve. Republicans have
picked up 40 or more House seats only seven times since 1912, when the
chamber grew to 435 seats. They have picked up 10 or more Senate seats
only four times in that period. They have done both three times in the
past century.
It seems certain they will pick up some seats, perhaps as many as two
dozen or more in the House. That would be in line with the historical
average pickup for the opposition party in a president’s first term.
But away from the cameras, Republicans admit that a series of
structural problems will make it hard to transform those gains into a
win-back-control movement.
Privately, top Republicans tell POLITICO that they are most concerned
right now about their bank balance. They are doing well in recruiting
candidates but worry they might not have the cash to sufficiently fund
them.
Consider the House. The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee
has $15 million in the bank right now — nearly four times more than
the National Republican Congressional Committee.
Officials say that, while small and large donors are still chipping
in, the recession has caused a dip in contributions from middle-level
donors — often the small-business types who are feeling the economic
pinch.
At the candidate level, if you tally up all the money for everyone
running, Democrats have about $60 million more ($175 million to $114
million), according to numbers compiled by the nonpartisan Center for
Responsive Politics.
Money is one of the many reasons top GOP officials wish the party had
not elected Michael Steele as Republican National Committee chairman.
Senior Republicans don’t like his loose lips or his wildly
improvisational style. But they could live with that if the RNC were a
cash cow. It is not, in part because of Steele’s unwillingness to
personally stroke top donors.
The RNC has outraised the Democratic National Committee, but it has
less money to spend right now: $9 million vs. the DNC’s $13 million.
More troubling to GOP insiders on Capitol Hill is that some major
donors say they don’t want to give money to Steele’s RNC.
Republicans are, however, taking some comfort in signals that some of
these same contributors are funneling their money to the committees
tasked with winning House, Senate and gubernatorial contests.
Democrats continue to get way more money than Republicans from groups
outside the official party structure. The new Supreme Court ruling
opens the door for corporations to rush back into politics, but it’s
too early to tell how aggressively they will underwrite the GOP, given
the inherent risk involved in taking on the majority party.
Barring a huge infusion of corporate cash, the Democrats have a
decisive advantage. Not insurmountable, but by no means
insignificant.
Republicans are publicly boasting that money will pour in after the
Massachusetts win. If so, they could have enough to compete in
November.
But Republicans still will fight against another set of numbers: the
large number of voters who simply don’t like the brand the GOP is
selling. The latest Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll found only 30
percent of those surveyed had a favorable view of Republicans. That is
8 percentage points lower than the favorability rating for Democrats.
And 22 points lower than Obama’s.
“The American people are against their agenda,” Rep. Lynn Westmoreland
(R-Ga.) said of the Democrats. But Westmoreland said the Republicans
are “having a hard time” getting their agenda out, too. “We have got
to do a better job getting that out.”
Even Republicans aren’t thrilled with Republicans. A CBS News poll
showed only 55 percent of Republicans hold a favorable view of their
congressional delegation.
And voters also still don’t trust Republicans with big decisions. A
recent Washington Post poll found 24 percent trusted congressional
Republicans to make the right decisions for the country — 8 points
fewer than Democrats and 23 points fewer than Obama.
“Scott Brown didn’t even really run as a Republican,” Dowd notes. “He
ran as an outsider.”
Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) spent three days in Massachusetts before the
election, and he said that even Brown supporters told him they wanted
to be sure “Republicans get the message: ‘You didn’t do your job well
enough when you were there.’” Still, he said, “They do recognize the
Democrats have been a lot worse.”
It is a fair point for Republicans to argue that what matters more is
the public’s view of the party in power, because voters have a long
history of taking out their frustrations on those with the keys.
Indeed, one of the most troubling signs for Democrats right now is
that the public is losing faith in their ability to lead on virtually
every domestic issue on the table.
Republicans are gleefully proclaiming the death of the Obama
presidency, or at least his agenda. They claim the public has turned
on him, holding him accountable for the sour economy and unemployment.
However, the polls don’t back this up.
The WSJ/NBC poll found 65 percent felt Obama inherited the economic
mess, while only 17 percent said his policies were “mostly
responsible” for the current situation.
That said, just ask Massachusetts Democratic Senate nominee Martha
Coakley and former New Jersey Democratic Gov. Jon Corzine who’s taking
the brunt of the public’s anger right now.
Of course, it’s possible that the wave of voter discontent is now
cresting and will have fizzled somewhat 10 months from now. The
economy could begin a rebound.
But even if the current political environment holds, the demographic
numbers will remain the biggest obstacle to any longer-term gains for
the GOP.
House Minority Whip Eric Cantor said last week he was very concerned
about the lack of diversity among GOP candidates and their supporters.
The most obvious place for gains in this area would be with Hispanics,
the fastest-growing minority group. But a recent Daily Kos poll showed
three-quarters of Hispanics hold unfavorable opinions of Republicans.
There’s little evidence Republicans are aggressively working to fix
their diversity problem: Aside from former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin,
each of their potential 2012 presidential candidates is a white male.
Finally, one number Republicans are closely watching in the short term
is the number of conservatives who will challenge establishment-backed
candidates in key races. If this number grows too big, it will drain
resources and highlight the deep divisions that remain inside the GOP.
© 2010 Capitol News Company, LLC
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http://www.sullivan-county.com/wcva/liberal_racism.htm
Race is a touchy subject in America. In fact it's an obsession. When I
ended up with this picture (click here) via an e-mail chat group, I was
skeptical. After all, I live in Bristol Virginia/Tennessee only 90 miles
from Knoxville. This horror story never made it into the local press that
I know of. Anna Nicole Smith, the Duke Rape Case fraud, and Imus drowned
us out. If it had been reported, it was certain we would never know the
race of the felons, or that at least one of the five was a released felon.
Because of the explosive issue of race, accusations of media bias, and
lack of information from Knoxville authorities, we have far more than just
two wonderful young people slaughtered by some savages. It's a political
correctness freak show.
From the "news"
Quoting an article by James H. Lilley, also stated in other blogs, etc:
On Saturday January 6, 2007 Hugh Christopher Newsom, age 23 and Channon
Gail Christian, age 21, both students at the University of Tennessee went
out on a date. They were driving in Channon's Toyota 4-Runner when they
were carjacked at gunpoint. Suddenly the crime turned far more savage than
an armed car theft. Chris and Channon were kidnapped and driven to 2316
Chipman Street where they were forced into the home at gunpoint. While
Channon was forced to watch, her boyfriend was raped prison style and then
his penis was cut off. He was later driven to nearby railroad tracks where
he was shot and set afire. But Channon's hell was just beginning. She was
beaten; gang raped repeatedly in many ways, had one of her breasts cut off
and bleach poured down her throat to destroy DNA evidence-all while she
was still alive. To add to Channon's degradation the suspects took turns
urinating on her. They too set her body afire, apparently inside the
residence, but for some reason left her body there-in five separate trash
bags...
No wonder the police were not releasing this information if it's true.
(Turns out part of it wasn't) There are endless conflicting news reports
on this story at the time. Also, it has been reported by some this was a
crack house where people came and went that nobody tried to help them or
call police. For the whole article from Mr. Lilly see click here.
Channon Christian and Chris Newsom
Press plays the Race Card Again
Now the Associated Press (August 17, 2009) plays the race card. To quote,
A jury was brought in for the case from Davidson County, 150 miles away,
in an unusual move to ensure jurors weren't tainted by pretrial publicity.
They are sequestered in a hotel and barred by the judge from following
news coverage of the trial. The victims were white and middle class, and
the defendants are poor and black. Some conservative Internet commentators
and white supremacist agitators accused the national media of reverse
discrimination by failing to give the case the same attention paid to
white-on-black hate crimes.
First the social class of the victims doesn't have a damn thing to do with
this. The usual liberal racist' nonsense is to imply all minority
criminals because they are "poor" or "down trodden" or whatever somehow
excuses their behavior. On the other hand the victims being better off
somehow and white had it coming to them or as the liberal racists always
imply, the criminal actions of a "coward" like Cobbins is rooted in a
racist' white society.
The same press went into a frenzy at the time over Imus' comments about
the Rutgers girls basketball team, a total non-crime, and participated in
the press lynching of three white members of the Duke lacrosse team over
the non-rape of a black prostitute. The press, Jackson, Sharpton, etc.
never even offered an apology.
In another biased news report:
Conservative commentators and Internet bloggers latched onto the
Christian-Newsom killings soon after the crimes occurred. They demonized
the national media for ignoring what they considered a black-on-white hate
crime and contrasted it to the heavily reported white-on-black Duke
lacrosse rape case. But two rallies in Knoxville in 2007 led by white
supremacist sympathizers were met with significant anti-protester response
and failed to gain traction. No demonstrations are expected now.
Knoxville's black community has had problems with selective enforcement by
police, but that is in the past, said Knoxville NAACP president Sheryl
Rollins, an attorney. "In no way does the NAACP condone or support anybody
- black, white, Chinese, greenies, whatever - that would do what those
people (allegedly) did to those children," she said.
The "white supremacists" were a whopping total of three people. Everyone
else protesting this news bias got lumped in with these three. The reason
the three got no traction is they represented nobody because they were
just idiots trying to take advantage of the situation. As for Sheryl
Rollins, that was the same racist' NAACP that lynched the Duke lacrosse
players in the press and never apologized for it. See My Disclaimer
against racists
But to quote Dr. Walter Williams:
What have we heard from the NAACP, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and others
who rushed to judgment and outrage as they condemned whites in the cases
of the "Jena 6" and Don Imus when he referred to the Rutgers ladies
basketball team as "nappy-headed ho's"? Where were the national news media
and public officials? You can bet the rent money that were the victims
black and the perpetrators white, Knoxville would have been inundated with
TV crews, with Jackson, Sharpton and other civil rights spokesmen and
politicians from both parties condemning racism, possibly blaming it all
on George Bush...
New:
Biased Press Reports on the Derrion Albert and Versus Emily Haddock
Murders
Blacks attack whites on busses, no hate crime charges
In a School Where Whites are a Minority: 15-year-old Girl Gang Raped
Suspect in deaths of 4 men at NC store in U.S. illegally
Police and the justice system are not biased against minorities as this
Knoxville case has proven in fact the opposite. But that doesn't lesson
the crime problem.
New December 2009
Leonard Pitts, the Christian/Newsom Killings, and William White
Pandering to Muslims or Political Correctness in the local press?
Why Rigoberto Padilla Should Be Deported
Anti-White Racism and Black "Opportunism" in New Orleans
New November 2009:
Study Says White Families' Wealth Advantage Has Grown (at the expense of
blacks)
Illegal Aliens Get Government Housing in Maine, Whites Need not Apply
Four White Teens Hack Mother to Death, Injure Child
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The five indicted were:
Eric DeWayne "E" Boyd, 34, was arrested in connection with the fatal
carjacking, though not indicted by the Knox County grand jury. Still, Boyd
was charged in United States district court as an accessory after the fact
for helping the suspects evade the police. Later, Boyd was also accused by
Thomas and Cobbins of rape and murder, and a search warrant was obtained
for his DNA. The accusations did not result in charges. See Boyd Found
Guilty.
U.S. District Judge Tom Varlan has issued an opinion refusing to grant
Eric Boyd a new trial, a new sentencing hearing and a chance to poll
jurors. Boyd was convicted last year of helping hide out torture-slaying
ringleader Lemaricus Davidson in the days following the January 2007
deaths of Channon Christian, 21, and Christopher Newsom, 23. Varlan
sentenced Boyd, also labeled as an unindicted co-conspirator in the
murders, to an 18-year sentence.
This was over some problems in the evidence. To quote, "While there is no
question that the disclosed documents contained some impeachment material
and no question that the government should have disclosed these documents
prior to trial, (the information) does not undermine confidence in the
verdict," Varlan wrote.
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Letalvis "Rome" Cobbins, 24, (b. December 20, 1982) also faces the same 46
charges as Thomas. In 2003, Cobbins was convicted of third-degree
attempted robbery in New York state. He and Davidson are brothers. He has
also been charged with assaulting a correctional officer while
incarcerated pending trial. He was convicted on August 25, 2009 of 33 of
the 37 counts against him. Given Life without the possibility of Parole.
See Cobbins Found Guilty
Update on Cobbins
Letalvis Cobbins will serve his life sentence in medium security prison
and that has prompted some questions as to how that decision is made. As
for why Cobbins was placed in medium security, state officials said every
inmate is given a custody assessment when they are first brought into the
system. In Cobbins' assessment at the Charles Bass Correctional Complex,
he was rated at medium on the incarceration level.
Most inmates are initially given a medium classification when entering the
system. Because of Cobbins' felony murder conviction, he will never be
dropped to a minimum-security level, meaning he will never be allowed
outside the fence. As long as he makes no trouble, he will work for 17
cents an hour at a prison job or attend classes. (Classes for what?) He
can roam the facility.
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Thomas Guilty, Spared death Penalty
George Geovonni "Detroit" Thomas, 27, faces a total of 46 charges. Thomas
was indicted on 16 counts of felony murder growing out of the rape,
robbery, kidnapping, and theft of Christian and Newsom, 2 counts of
premeditated murder, 2 counts of especially aggravated robbery, 4 counts
of especially aggravated kidnapping, 20 counts of aggravated rape, and 2
counts of theft. Will be tried next.
Jamie Satterfield of the Knoxville News Sentinel (11/17/2009) noted of the
Thomas trial, "No eyewitnesses. No forensic proof. Circumstantial
evidence. Drug-using witnesses. DNA pointing, not to Thomas, but his three
co-defendants" as chief prosecutor Takisha Fitzgerald played down
expectations. She had to convince the five men and seven women (one of the
women was black) of Thomas' "criminal responsibility." because of pretrial
publicity Judge Baumgartner brought in jurors from Hamilton County.
Defense attorney Tom Dillard has a big problem anyway in that Thomas
confessed to being at the Chipman Street house in Knoxville when Channon
Christian and Chris Newsom were inside the house. The defence went on it
wasn't his fault what others did. But Thomas' own words revealed why this
should have been a racial hate crime.
According to Knox County Sheriff's Office Detective Nevil Norman Thomas
told him "fuck that white girl, she don't mean nothin' to me. You cops
come into my neighborhood and kill us. Why should I get involved in
something that is none of my business?" This isn't first racial comment in
this case as earlier witnesses testified to racial hatred of carjacker
Eric DeWayne "E" Boyd who got 18 years in prison for lesser charges.
Knoxville officials are desperate to keep race out of this because the
killers were black and blacks are always considered the victims under
political correctness.
Norman claimed he said this after a tape recorder had been turned off. He
was "shocked" and didn't write it down for 17 months later on June 2008
after he told Prosecutors. Defence Attorney Dillard questioned Norman on
this who replied that, "so much other stuff in this case we were trying to
get organized I just didn't write it down." Dillard claimed this was not
an admission, but in fairness where was council for Thomas? "It's not
relevant," Dillard said. "It is highly prejudicial."
The Prosecution countered, "We think it goes straight to motive," Price
said. "What a jury is going to want to know is how you can witness ? these
horrors and not do anything, and there's your answer. (Christian) meant
nothing to him. He was just out for himself." Prosecutor Takisha
Fitzgerald also wanted to use a phone call Thomas made to Stacy Lawson
(girlfriend) he made in jail.
In the end Judge Richard Baumgartner allowed Detective Nevil Norman's
account of the unrecorded exchange about Thomas racist' remarks to be
"credible." and "it is admissible." His ex-girlfriend Stacy Lawson will
also be testifying in the case as well.
As the trial raged on the earlier tactic of the attorneys of convicted
ringleader Lemaricus Davidson (sentenced to death) there was none of this
presenting the victims as out to buy drugs. As the press noted of the
Prosecution,
"...they have a circumstantial case built around Thomas' own concession he
knew co-defendants Lemaricus Davidson and Letalvis Cobbins were cooking up
a carjacking, that he was in the tiny Chipman Street house where the
couple was brutalized, took a ride in Christian's carjacked Toyota 4Runner
and cared not one whit about the pair's fate."
Yet defence attorney Dillard countered,
"George Thomas didn't do anything. He did not rob anyone. He did not
kidnap anyone. He did not rape anyone. He did not kill anyone. What's this
case about? It's about what George Thomas didn't do. It's about his
failure to act. George Thomas was basically detached. He sat in a corner.
He smoked his (marijuana) blunt. George Thomas minded his own business.
Believe me, that is reprehensible, but it's not criminal."
On day three of the trial the jury got to hear the recording of a phone
conversation between Thomas and ex-girlfriend Stacy Lawson while he was
being held Grayson County Detention Center in Kentucky after being
arrested in Lebanon, Ky. This was an arguement that went on between them
over Thomas doing nothing to stop the killing.
Lawson, "Why didn't anybody fucking call (police)? Why didn't you?"
Thomas, "Come on now.
Lawson, "I mean, that girl did not deserve the (expletive) that she was
(expletive) put through. Neither did that boy."
Thomas, "Should've, would've could've but didn't."
On day four Thomas said in a tape recorded statement he knew Davidson and
Eric Boyd planned to pull off a carjacking, "When they said they was
leaving to go get the car, I'm like, OK, you know what I'm saying, and
then they came back with them, them, folks," Thomas said. "I'm like OK,
you know, OK, know they steal a car, not the people that's in it."
Thomas admitted seeing Channon Christian blindfolded and being led to a
bedroom while blindfolded Chris Newsom being led out of the house shortly
after being brought inside. He said Boyd led Newsom out at gunpoint.
Thomas claimed he, Cobbins, and Vanessa Coleman went to another drug
dealer's house and when they returned to Chipman Street the next day, the
victims weren't there.
On December 6 the State rested its case. Defence attorneys Tom Dillard and
Steve Johnson asked Judge Richard Baumgartner to toss the case out and not
even goes to the jury. To quote the Knoxville News Sentinel (Dec. 6),
"More than half of the state's case last week was devoted to showing proof
of the guilt of Davidson and Cobbins, both of whom have already been
convicted. But as Dillard repeatedly pointed out during the trial, the
pair of prosecutors presented no evidentiary link between Thomas and any
of the crimes.
The best the state could offer, in fact, was testimony from a Kentucky
rapper who said she saw Thomas handling small-caliber bullets the night
before his arrest. Those bullets, however, were not found during a search
of her house."
The Hamilton County jury in the end convicted Thomas, 26, of all counts in
the 46-count document ranging from felony murder to first-degree murder to
robbery, rape and kidnapping. They deliberated about six hours over two
days in reaching their decision. The victims parents were delighted with
the sweeping verdict. But to the parents dismay after two hours of
deliberation the jury sentenced Thomas to life without parole. Of the four
so far convicted in this case only Lemaricus "Slim" Davidson has been
sentenced to death.
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Lemaricus Davidson Goes on Trial, Found Guilty
Lemaricus Devall "Slim" Davidson, 25, (b. June 13, 1981) faces the same 46
charges as Thomas. Davidson had also completed serving a five-year
sentence in Tennessee on a previous felony conviction for carjacking and
aggravated robbery on August 5, 2006. He was convicted on October 28, 2009
of 46 charges (three of which were not guilty on the indicted charge, but
guilty on a lesser included charge). He was sentenced by the Knoxville
jury on October 30, 2009 to the death penalty (lethal injection). See
Lemaricus Davidson Goes on Trial, Found Guilty
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Vanessa Coleman, 18, was arrested by the Lebanon Police Department in
Lebanon, Kentucky. She faces 40 Tennessee state charges. Coleman was
indicted on 12 counts of felony murder growing out of the rape, robbery,
kidnapping, and theft of Christian and Newsom, 1 count of premeditated
murder (of Christian only), 1 count of especially aggravated robbery (of
Newsom only), 4 counts of especially aggravated kidnapping, 20 counts of
aggravated rape, and 2 counts of theft. She will be tried last. In each
indictment, the large number of rape counts were included to provide a
range of options for prosecutors, not to reflect the number of rapes which
actually occurred. She will be the last to be put on trial.
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30 Years is Too Long
NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- It was nearly closing time at Bob Bell's Nashville
convenience store July 5, 1980. In walked Cecil C. Johnson Jr., who lived
in the neighborhood and had been a customer for some time. Within a few
minutes, three people were dead, including a 12-year-old boy who was the
son of the market owner and apparently was helping his dad run the
register.
Johnson, 23 at the time and now 53, is to be executed early Wednesday for
three counts of murder resulting from a robbery that summer night that
netted the holdup man about $200. He'll be the sixth person put to death
in Tennessee since 2000, unless a judge agrees with an effort by his
attorneys to ask for a stay of execution. Ref. www.wsmv.com Nov. 27, 2009
Tennessee: DR inmate Cecil Johnson Jr. says 29-year delay is cruel and
unusual. The man scheduled to be executed in Nashville on Wednesday
morning has asked for a stay of execution, saying to kill him by lethal
injection after 29 years on death row is cruel and unusual punishment.
Cecil Johnson Jr. was convicted in 1981 for a triple killing at Bob Bell's
Market the previous year and was given 3 death sentences by a jury. It
wasn't until 2008 that his legal options were exhausted and an execution
date was set.
His attorney, Jim Thomas, argued in the complaint filed in federal court
Wednesday that the execution should be stayed in part because "the state's
manipulations and conduct" have delayed the case. Johnson, now 53, was 23
when he was given the death sentence. Gov. Phil Bredesen denied Johnson's
plea for clemency this week.
Thomas said that all the delays were caused by courts that failed to rule
on Johnson's case for up to three years at a time after hearing some of
the arguments, and by the state's attorneys. "Mr. Johnson has spent this
time in mortal suspense, constantly waiting for that uncertain day on
which he will be strapped to a chair or a gurney and killed a day that
could arrive next week, next month, next year, but also maybe never,"
court filings said. "Being forced to persist in a state of constant
apprehension of imminent death for nearly three decades amounts to
torture."
A panel of the U.S. Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals denied Johnson's appeal
in a 2-1 decision. Source: The Tennessean, Nov. 28, 2009
Poor baby. He was executed on Wednesday. He should have been executed no
more than two years after his conviction.
Death Row Facts in Tennessee
Number of Death Row: 89
Numbers Breakdown: 87 males and 2 females
48 White, 38 African Americans, 1 Hispanic, 1 Native American, 1 Asian
Where are they from?
57 inmates are from the largest metropolitan counties of
Shelby (36), Davidson (11), Knox (7), and Hamilton (4)
25 inmates were convicted in East Tennessee
21 inmates were convicted in Middle Tennessee
43 inmates were convicted in West Tennessee
Oldest on Death Row:
John Henretta, 2/12/43, 66 years old
Convicted in Bradley County
On Death Row since April 2002
Youngest Female on Death Row:
Christa Pike, 3/10/76, 33 years old
Convicted in Knox County
On Death Row since March 1996
Youngest Male on Death Row:
Devin Banks, 8/2/83, 26 years old
Convicted in Shelby County
On Death Row since April 2005
Longest Time on Death Row:
Donald Strouth, 1/9/59, 50 years old
Convicted in Sullivan County
On Death Row since September 1978
Last Person Sentenced to Death Row:
Lemaricus Davidson, 6/13/81, 28 years old
Convicted in Knox County
On Death Row since October 2009
Most male inmates are housed at Riverbend Maximum Security Institution in
Nashville, but for security reasons, some of them can be housed at the
Morgan County Correctional Complex in Wartburg. Two inmates with the death
penalty are currently housed at Morgan County.
Female inmates sentenced to death are housed at the Tennessee Prison for
Women in Nashville.
The following number of inmates have multiple death sentences: 12 inmates
with two death sentences, four inmates with three death sentences, one
inmate with four death sentences, and one inmate with seven death
sentences.
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Crime Rates:
Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit
murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more
likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use
a knife.
Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and
Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.
The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the
percentage of the population that is black and Hispanic.
Interracial Crime: Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes
committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent
and whites commit 15 percent.
Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks.
Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and
10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three
percent of their victims are black.
Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime
against a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit
robbery.
Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate
crimes against whites than vice versa.
Gangs:
Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth
gangs.
Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more likely.
Incarceration:
Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled, from
139 to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from 320,000
to 1.39 million.
Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites. Hispanics
are three times more likely.
If anybody doubts this then watch the TV show 'Cops' and notice the color
of most of the criminals. (The program was denounced as racist by some.)
But to quote the study and this trial will prove it: "This widely-held
view that the police are biased is not supported by the evidence. The data
suggest the criminal justice system generally treats offenders of
different races equally. High arrest and incarceration rates for blacks
and Hispanics-and very low rates for Asians-reflect differences in crime
rates, not police or justice system bias." The entire report I quoted was
denounced as racist, but facts are simply not racism. See The Color of
Crime (pdf)
Blacks per-capita Commit More Hate Crimes
The Virginia State Police crime report for 2008 does reveal racism, but
not the kind of racism they want to discuss.
Blacks make up 20 percent of the Virginia population; black males say 10
percent. In the sections where crime was reported by race, Hispanics and
illegal aliens are counted as white thus inflating the white crime rate.
(They commit 3-4 times the white crime rate, I excluded Asians.)
On sexual offences whites are 72 percent of the victims, black males
committed 37.3 percent of the offences. Black males commit 80 percent of
the robberies. Blacks commit 53 percent of the assaults and 54 percent of
the car thefts. Black males alone commit 56 percent of the violent crime,
with black females 63 percent. Blacks are the primary victims of crime
committed by blacks and rarely by whites.
Now the hate crime statistics for 2005-2008 are the real shocker. Almost
two-thirds of the victims are white, but almost two-thirds of the hate
crime charges are against whites. In 2008 153 whites were victims of hate
crimes while 99 blacks were victims. Yet 73% of the Virginia population is
white while the black population is just under 20%. But 128 whites were
charged with hate crimes with only 99 black victims. Only 72 blacks were
charged with hate crimes, less than half the number of white victims.
That's consistent year after year and it's clearly anti-white racism. Be
aware that the definition of hate crimes have been expanded to the absurd.
Of most of the race offences (185) only 72 were assault, most of the rest
property crimes. Per-capita blacks commit far more hate crimes than whites
do even though police are loath to even charge non-whites for hate crimes
at all.
The Virginia white population is 5,671,432. 128 white offenders commit one
hate crime for 44,308 white people.
The Virginia black population is 1,546,048. 72 black offenders commit one
hate crime for 21,472 black people.
Blacks per-capita commit more than twice the hate crimes of whites.
More race killings ignored by the press and the race hustlers: Where are
you Reverend Sharpton?
Debunking Racist Hysteria and Black Crime in Virginia
Bristol Tennessee Cop Killer gets death penalty
Illegal immigrants take heavy toll on society (East Tennessee)
Immigrant Population Hits Record 38 Million
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Quoting Nicholas Stix, AR News, May 14, 2007, he claimed the Knoxville
police won't give him the cause of death either. (I tried too.)
Police and reporters have promoted the view that this crime was a simple
carjacking that got out of hand, and that the rapists poured cleaning
fluid down Miss Christian's throat to destroy DNA evidence. This appears
to be wrong on both counts. The killers ditched Miss Christian's SUV just
a few hours after they stole it, which suggests they had no great interest
in it. Also, according to court documents, they had already planned on
killing Miss Christian, so they could have used the cleaning fluid after
she was dead. They did not bother to "clean" her vagina and anus, which
were stuffed with DNA evidence. It appears to this reporter that the
carjacking was just a way to kidnap, gang rape, torture, and murder
whites, and that the killers used the cleaning fluid for the sole purpose
of further torturing Miss Christian.
This comment at www.vdare.com from a reader in Knoxville, Tennessee:
Here we go again, the depths of depravity are pushed deeper by black
hooligans in sleepy Knoxville, TN. First they were just going to carjack,
then they decided to abduct and take the couple back to the criminal's
house. So they tied them up, beat the boyfriend in front of his girl,
shoot him, pour gasoline on him and lit him on fire. They disposed of his
body near some railroad tracks. Next, it is her turn as they rape and
sodomize her for several days, maybe as many as four black men took part!
They pour drain cleaner into her throat to clean up the evidence, wrap her
in plastic and throw her into their garbage can outside their house.
Except that they didn't know she was alive! She later died from the cold.
No mention of the perpetrator's or victim's ancestry is mentioned.
Although in Knoxville, their faces are all on the news channels...
News reports (here) confirm some of this person's comments. As I monitored
the local news in my area where they do often publish pictures, one fact
stands out; while non-whites make up about 5% of the region's population,
they account for 40% of the crime. (This is an unofficial figure!) This
figure was given to me by local police, off the record. Of concern as well
in the last five years is the explosion of Hispanic crime including in
2007 (first three months) two attempted child abductions, drug running and
gang style shootings, child rape, and kidnapping. In fact one local
Hispanic has been sentenced to death for murdering his cell mate. The
region is being flooded with illegal aliens as employers refusing to pay a
living wage import them by the bus load. See Illegal Aliens in East
Tennessee. They are counted as white, and don't show up in Tennessee crime
stats.
As of this news article, even with trial dates set, to quote: "Groups
wondering why prosecutors haven't demanded the death penalty yet. "We've
had some discussions of course, we're still putting evidence together,"
says Knox County District Attorney General Randy Nichols." I'm wondering
the same.
My Disclaimer against racists
The Duke Lacrosse Case and the Media Whores
Some older AP reports
The white James Byrd and black crime statistics
View the police flyer
Accusations of biased press coverage
A blogger had this to say, "Is race a factor?" in regards to the Knoxville
horror:
Still others see a more sinister hand at work. The suspects who have been
apprehended for the horrific crime against those two young people are
black; the victims were white. Many seem to think that the race of the
alleged perpetrators is the issue. Had the perpetrators been white, and
the victims black, they say, the case would be all over the television and
newspapers. Many cite the much-publicized dragging death of James Byrd,
Jr. as an example. Also troubling, according to some, is the contrast
between the national media coverage of the alleged Duke rape case and this
one. Visitors to the blogs I viewed also cited similarities between this
case and the Wichita Massacre, a black-on-white rape/torture/murder in
2000, and other little-known cases as proof of a recent history of
"blacking out" certain news stories.
See The Wichita Massacre by Stephen Webster, American Renaissance, July
16, 2002.
In addition, to quote from the West Virginia case where they can't press
hate crime charges because the "victim" knew her captor, "She was not a
random target, prosecutor Brian Abraham said Wednesday. She had a "social
relationship" with one of the suspects, he said... The victim had a
previous relationship with Bobby Brewster, one of the six in custody,
Abraham said. He was charged in July with domestic battery and assault
after a domestic dispute involving the same woman." This couple didn't
know these people, so why doesn't hate crime charges not apply here?
Now they play the race card, trying to make anyone protesting this lack of
media coverage as racist: "The Reverend Maize maintains, the NAACP trusts
city leaders and police to handle what ever the trials or the case itself,
might bring. "We don't have any counter marches or counter protests lined
up. We don't want to ad fuel, to the fire, if they choose to come to town.
We'll allow them to do what they're going to do...Nevertheless, at least
one group, white supremacist or racially focused, depending on your
prospective has vowed to rally here in several weeks. Later this month,
though Knox County Mayor Mike Ragsdale will ask commissioners to pass a
resolution requesting that group not come.
They came, and the national press covered that because they could make it
out to be white racism. The end result of this is a growing backlash
against all black people because many feel there's a double standard.
White woman attacked on Baltimore bus: 9 black youths charged
40 blacks attack three white women in Long Beach, CA
Liberal Racism and the so-called "Jena 6"
Two down, three to go. See
Eric Boyd Found Guilty in Christian/Newsom Murders
Cobbins/Coleman Trial Delayed, Legal Games, Defence Plays the Race Card
Visitors since
March 2002
Debunking liberal lies on "white racism" as the cause of black problems:
Thomas Sowell:
Race, IQ, and facts liberals ignore
Race dialogue: same old stuff: It's Culture, Not Racism
Do 'minorities' really have it that bad?
Black Liberation Theology and The Audacity of Rhetoric
It isn't white racism:
IQ Will Put You In Your Place
Black/Hispanic failure in public schools is not racial bias
The Question of IQ versus Race, and the leftist' agenda
Morality Gap Mirrors Asian/white versus black/Hispanic IQ Gap
Black college graduation rates under 50 percent
The real problem in American public schools is liberal racism
Scoping Out Pepe (and Mexicans): Why We Should Get It Right, But Won't
Far-left lunacy:
How Marxism became racism
Why the term Islamic or Liberal fascism?
ACLU sues Palm Beach over black graduation rates
Prison rates by race:
One in Nine young black men in jail
One in 100 black women in jail
What mass immigration causes and what's behind it:
Cult of multiculturalism' vs. U.S. sovereignty
Why illegal Immigration Matters in Bristol Virginia/Tennessee
Illegal Aliens in Virginia and Tennessee
The truth on mass immigration.
Data Shows America's Job Growth Benefits Immigrants, Outsourcers
Costly immigration by Paul Craig Roberts
More Illegal Aliens in East Tennessee
Muslim immigration problems:
Muslim Rape Wave in Sweden
Muslim Gang Rapes and the Left Blames Us
Sharia for all, Islamofascism and the EU
A new Communism, Humanist Manifestos
A Discussion on Multiculturalism and the Real Agenda
Pictures and News from Londonistan, how Muslims think
Muslim Immigration Must be Halted
Crime and education problems:
Race behind school score declines: NCLB and Race
Are facts racism? The Killers of Channon Christian and Chris Newsom
Knoxville
Liberal Racism and the so-called "Jena 6"
Robbery survivor: 85-year-old fought through pain to stay alive
Long Beach Hate Crime Travesty 40 blacks attack three white women, get
probation.
The Wichita Massacre
The murder of nine-year-old Jordin Paulder
Compare coverage:
Why is trial involving marathon torture session by gays against a teen
being ignored?
Officials Consider Hate Crime Charges in Week-Long Kidnap, Torture of West
Virginia Woman
Akron police investigate black teen mob attack on white family
How they Ignore Black Muslim Terrorism
Illegal Alien Murders Mother of Five in Hamblen County
Anti-White Racism at a New Jersey Medical School
Hiding Black Interracial Crimes
Unicoi County Tennessee mother brings child rapist home to daughters
The Obama Day Baby and Unwed Mothers in Bristol Virginia/Tennessee
The Coming White Underclass
Whites Need Not Apply for Obama's Racist' Stimulus Package
edi...@netpath.net
Party when it no longer can win statewide races in Massachusetts - the
most-liberal state of all?
Massachusetts - the Ultimate Tea Party.
Boston - Obama's Stalingrad.
http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com - your source for hard-to-find stuff!
Fred B. Brown
"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Read this and not sleep.
Laugh...laugh..laugh...
TMT
Why the GOP should still be nervous
By: Jim VandeHei and James Hohmann
January 22, 2010 12:56 AM EST
Republicans did not elect Scott Brown, Independents and Democrats
crossing party lines did.
Your ignorance of what happened in Mass is appalling and the
Progressives are trying to re-write history by giving the credit to
the Republicans. Yes, Republican votes helped but it was conservative
Democrats fed up with their liberal brethern and Independents who elected
Brown.
Suck it up, the American people kicked ass.
Republicans are riding high in the wake of Scott Brown�s win, talking
up an authentic resurgence for their party and a real chance for
reclaiming power.
Don�t bet on it.
Yes, it is indisputable that the GOP has surged, especially in the
past several months. Republicans won three major races in tough states
� and watched the percentage of Americans who prefer Republicans over
Democrats in hypothetical matchups rise to the highest level since
2004.
But it is also indisputable that the rise has little to do with the
voters� view of Republicans writ large � and that the very concerns
that got them booted from power persist today.
Voters �have fallen out of love with the Democrats,� said Rep. Adam
Putnam (R-Fla.). �They haven�t yet fallen back in love with us.�
POLITICO talked with many of the country�s most experienced political
operatives, and each one warned Republicans against irrational
exuberance.
Former New York Rep. Susan Molinari: �We have earned the right to crow
a little bit. But the lesson we�ve learned from all of these races is
that you ... can�t take anything for granted.�
Republican strategist Mary Matalin: �Killer negatives have lost their
magic. This requires no attitude. Now we have the players on the
field, and we just need to play. We remember how to do it.�
Former Rep. Vin Weber (R-Minn.): �Voters don�t want triumphalism. They
still like the president as a person, so they don�t want to see a
party celebrating his decline. ... The country wants to see the
parties working together.�
Matthew Dowd, who consulted for former President George W. Bush and
voted for President Barack Obama: �If any Republicans are running
around town celebrating in jubilation, they should remember that in
the country�s constant state of change, neither party gets more than a
moment.�
Republicans on Capitol Hill hope their moment will come again in
November. But the numbers are daunting across the board.
The most important ones: 40, the net seats to win the House, and 10,
the net seats to win the Senate, are very difficult � perhaps
impossible in the case of the Senate � to achieve. Republicans have
picked up 40 or more House seats only seven times since 1912, when the
chamber grew to 435 seats. They have picked up 10 or more Senate seats
only four times in that period. They have done both three times in the
past century.
It seems certain they will pick up some seats, perhaps as many as two
dozen or more in the House. That would be in line with the historical
average pickup for the opposition party in a president�s first term.
But away from the cameras, Republicans admit that a series of
structural problems will make it hard to transform those gains into a
win-back-control movement.
Privately, top Republicans tell POLITICO that they are most concerned
right now about their bank balance. They are doing well in recruiting
candidates but worry they might not have the cash to sufficiently fund
them.
Consider the House. The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee
has $15 million in the bank right now � nearly four times more than
the National Republican Congressional Committee.
Officials say that, while small and large donors are still chipping
in, the recession has caused a dip in contributions from middle-level
donors � often the small-business types who are feeling the economic
pinch.
At the candidate level, if you tally up all the money for everyone
running, Democrats have about $60 million more ($175 million to $114
million), according to numbers compiled by the nonpartisan Center for
Responsive Politics.
Money is one of the many reasons top GOP officials wish the party had
not elected Michael Steele as Republican National Committee chairman.
Senior Republicans don�t like his loose lips or his wildly
improvisational style. But they could live with that if the RNC were a
cash cow. It is not, in part because of Steele�s unwillingness to
personally stroke top donors.
The RNC has outraised the Democratic National Committee, but it has
less money to spend right now: $9 million vs. the DNC�s $13 million.
More troubling to GOP insiders on Capitol Hill is that some major
donors say they don�t want to give money to Steele�s RNC.
Republicans are, however, taking some comfort in signals that some of
these same contributors are funneling their money to the committees
tasked with winning House, Senate and gubernatorial contests.
Democrats continue to get way more money than Republicans from groups
outside the official party structure. The new Supreme Court ruling
opens the door for corporations to rush back into politics, but it�s
too early to tell how aggressively they will underwrite the GOP, given
the inherent risk involved in taking on the majority party.
Barring a huge infusion of corporate cash, the Democrats have a
decisive advantage. Not insurmountable, but by no means
insignificant.
Republicans are publicly boasting that money will pour in after the
Massachusetts win. If so, they could have enough to compete in
November.
But Republicans still will fight against another set of numbers: the
large number of voters who simply don�t like the brand the GOP is
selling. The latest Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll found only 30
percent of those surveyed had a favorable view of Republicans. That is
8 percentage points lower than the favorability rating for Democrats.
And 22 points lower than Obama�s.
�The American people are against their agenda,� Rep. Lynn Westmoreland
(R-Ga.) said of the Democrats. But Westmoreland said the Republicans
are �having a hard time� getting their agenda out, too. �We have got
to do a better job getting that out.�
Even Republicans aren�t thrilled with Republicans. A CBS News poll
showed only 55 percent of Republicans hold a favorable view of their
congressional delegation.
And voters also still don�t trust Republicans with big decisions. A
recent Washington Post poll found 24 percent trusted congressional
Republicans to make the right decisions for the country � 8 points
fewer than Democrats and 23 points fewer than Obama.
�Scott Brown didn�t even really run as a Republican,� Dowd notes. �He
ran as an outsider.�
Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) spent three days in Massachusetts before the
election, and he said that even Brown supporters told him they wanted
to be sure �Republicans get the message: �You didn�t do your job well
enough when you were there.�� Still, he said, �They do recognize the
Democrats have been a lot worse.�
It is a fair point for Republicans to argue that what matters more is
the public�s view of the party in power, because voters have a long
history of taking out their frustrations on those with the keys.
Indeed, one of the most troubling signs for Democrats right now is
that the public is losing faith in their ability to lead on virtually
every domestic issue on the table.
Republicans are gleefully proclaiming the death of the Obama
presidency, or at least his agenda. They claim the public has turned
on him, holding him accountable for the sour economy and unemployment.
However, the polls don�t back this up.
The WSJ/NBC poll found 65 percent felt Obama inherited the economic
mess, while only 17 percent said his policies were �mostly
responsible� for the current situation.
That said, just ask Massachusetts Democratic Senate nominee Martha
Coakley and former New Jersey Democratic Gov. Jon Corzine who�s taking
the brunt of the public�s anger right now.
Of course, it�s possible that the wave of voter discontent is now
cresting and will have fizzled somewhat 10 months from now. The
economy could begin a rebound.
But even if the current political environment holds, the demographic
numbers will remain the biggest obstacle to any longer-term gains for
the GOP.
House Minority Whip Eric Cantor said last week he was very concerned
about the lack of diversity among GOP candidates and their supporters.
The most obvious place for gains in this area would be with Hispanics,
the fastest-growing minority group. But a recent Daily Kos poll showed
three-quarters of Hispanics hold unfavorable opinions of Republicans.
There�s little evidence Republicans are aggressively working to fix
their diversity problem: Aside from former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin,
each of their potential 2012 presidential candidates is a white male.
Finally, one number Republicans are closely watching in the short term
is the number of conservatives who will challenge establishment-backed
candidates in key races. If this number grows too big, it will drain
resources and highlight the deep divisions that remain inside the GOP.
� 2010 Capitol News Company, LLC
Bill Smith
<too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Read this and not sleep.
>
>Laugh...laugh..laugh...
>
>TMT
>
>Why the GOP should still be nervous
>By: Jim VandeHei and James Hohmann
>January 22, 2010 12:56 AM EST
>
>Republicans are riding high in the wake of Scott Brown�s win, talking
>up an authentic resurgence for their party and a real chance for
>reclaiming power.
>
Anyone who thinks Massachusetts suddenly turned right is a fool. It
was a referendum on what they saw as a failure of leadership on
Obama's part and their dissatisfaction with that abomination of a
health care bill.
Bill Smith
Randy Jo Hobbs
> Anyone who thinks Massachusetts suddenly turned right is a fool. It
> was a referendum on what they saw as a failure of leadership on
> Obama's part and their dissatisfaction with that abomination of a
> health care bill.
You go, girl!
Beam Me Up Scotty
Now if the elitist Liberal-Socialists could "get it" also????
RD (The Sandman)
news:35pjl5p88dksmarp2...@4ax.com:
Begorrah, I think you got right on the nose, Bill. ;)
--
Sleep well tonight,
RD (The Sandman)
Some points to ponder:
Why is it good if a vacuum cleaner really sucks?
Why is the third hand on a clock called the "second hand"?
Why did Kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
Why do we sing "Take me out to the ballgame" when we are already
there?
RogerN
news:5dc54449-e308-41c0...@h2g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
Laugh...laugh..laugh...
TMT
<snip>
TMT,
I don't believe the Republicans think the people are in love with them. It
is just that the Democrat politicians are so out of step with the Democrat
and Republican people that they caused a Republican to get elected where
there hasn't been one in 38 years. So, we are all laughing, you laugh
because you're an idiot, and we are laughing because you are an idiot!
RogerN
HH&C
> Read this and not sleep.
>
> Laugh...laugh..laugh...
>
> TMT
>
> Why the GOP should still be nervous
> By: Jim VandeHei and James Hohmann
> January 22, 2010 12:56 AM EST
>
> Republicans are riding high in the wake of Scott Brown’s win, talking
> up an authentic resurgence for their party and a real chance for
> reclaiming power.
>
> Don’t bet on it.
Correct. They need to go conservative. No more RINOs.
I was reading in the USA Today about Democrats thinking they should
back away from Health Care.
Ummm. Too late. We know who they are. They won't be re-elected even
if they back away now.
Ramon F Herrera
> Some points to ponder:
> Why is it good if a vacuum cleaner really sucks?
> Why is the third hand on a clock called the "second hand"?
> Why did Kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
> Why do we sing "Take me out to the ballgame" when we are already
> there?
The needle used in lethal injection is sterilized.
-RFH
Don Foreman
<too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Read this and not sleep.
>
>Laugh...laugh..laugh...
>
>TMT
Note that there is absolutely nothing in this diatribe about doing
what's best for America and Americans. It's all about gaining or
retaining power over America and Americans. You find this amusing?
Mindless partisan zeolotry by proponents of either party does no
service to our country or our populace. Government cannot be
trivialized as a competitive sport if we're to prosper (or survive)
as a country and a populace on this shrinking globe.
Most readers will know that you're trolling to elicit responses for
your personal amusement. Condolences on having nothing to contribute
either to this NG or to the country in which you live.
HH&C
>
> Why does a light switch say on and off? If it's on you don't need to
> read about it. If it's off you can't read it.
Why does a munitions company have a peace prize?
RD (The Sandman)
9ffb-9cc...@h2g2000yqj.googlegroups.com:
;)
--
Sleep well tonight,
RD (The Sandman)
RD (The Sandman)
9401-079...@36g2000yqu.googlegroups.com:
Isn't waging war for peace like fucking for virginity?
--
Sleep well tonight,
Gunner Asch
<rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Why does a light switch say on and off? �If it's on you don't need to
>>> read about it. �If it's off you can't read it.
>>
>> Why does a munitions company have a peace prize?
>>
>
>Isn't waging war for peace like fucking for virginity?
>
>--
Peace through Superior Firepower
Whenever a Liberal utters the term "Common Sense approach"....grab your
wallet, your ass, and your guns because the sombitch is about to do
something damned nasty to all three of them.
RD (The Sandman)
news:junml5hrk28ac8qrv...@4ax.com:
> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 11:11:07 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
> <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> Why does a light switch say on and off? �If it's on you don't need
to
>>>> read about it. �If it's off you can't read it.
>>>
>>> Why does a munitions company have a peace prize?
>>>
>>
>>Isn't waging war for peace like fucking for virginity?
>>
>>--
> Peace through Superior Firepower
Agreed. I may be a liberal but I am not stupid. As long as we are the
toughest son of a bitch in the valley, all is well.
SaPeIsMa
"Gunner Asch" <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote in message
news:junml5hrk28ac8qrv...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 11:11:07 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
> <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> Why does a light switch say on and off? If it's on you don't need to
>>>> read about it. If it's off you can't read it.
>>>
>>> Why does a munitions company have a peace prize?
>>>
>>
>>Isn't waging war for peace like fucking for virginity?
>>
>>--
> Peace through Superior Firepower
>
Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum.
If you want peace, prepare for war.
Hawke
If you want war, prepare for war. Everyone that starts a war does just that.
Hawke
Scout
Yep, and those that want peace will end up with a war unless they prepare as
well.
HH&C
> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 05:56:23 -0800 (PST), "HH&C"
> for developing destructive forces
Liberal guilt?
> (Nobel's inventions included
> dynamite and ballistite). None of his explosives, except for
> ballistite, were used in any war during his lifetime. He was also
> considered to be an Inventor & Industrialist, not a Munitions Company
> owner. Matter of fact none of his companies actually made Munitions.
> However, he was instrumental in turning Bofors from an iron company to
> an Armaments Company whilst he owned it.
Dynamit Nobel is not a Nobel company? RWS ammunition?
> Here is a Triva question, what did Nobel's daddy invent?
Dynamite?
> --
>
> "Gustatus Similis Pullus"
Lewis Hartswick
> Here is a Triva question, what did Nobel's daddy invent?
...lew...
r_c_...@hushmail.com
No, he invented the rotary lathe used for making plywood.
>
>
>
> > --
>
> > "Gustatus Similis Pullus"
Hawke
So everybody should prepare for war that way there will be peace? Seems
to me that is exactly what everybody did in 1914. Everybody mobilized
for war. Then everybody fought. Not too hard to predict actually.
Hawke
RogerN
"Hawke" <davesm...@digitalpath.net> wrote in message
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So, why do you practice with your gun and place importance on your size and
physical ability? Doesn't seem important to peace.
RogerN
Hawke
There is a big difference between a state and an individual. That being
so, I advise different actions for each. For a person you would be wise
to be able to defend yourself either with or without a weapon. For a
state you only need enough military to deter possible aggressors from
attacking you. If you actually go so far as preparing to fight a war the
odds are you will find a way to get into one. Check your history and you
will find it's just about always the country with the world's biggest
army that starts the wars. So having enough to defend is one thing and
having enough to successfully attack is something else. Once you get
prepared to attack you find an excuse to do so.
Hawke
Harold Burton
<5dc54449-e308-41c0...@h2g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Read this and not sleep.
Especially in Virginia, New Jersey, and Massachusetts.
Snicker.
Harold Burton
Bill Smith <quan...@newsguy.com> wrote:
Clearly dissatisfaction with that alleged health care bill, since he
campaigned on being the 41st vote against it.
Harold Burton
Winston_Smith <not_...@bogus.net> wrote:
> Why does a light switch say on and off? If it's on you don't need to
> read about it. If it's off you can't read it.
Some stupid government regulation brought to you by a DumboCRAP?
Snicker.
Harold Burton
Hawke <davesm...@digitalpath.net> wrote:
Actually it was.
Snicker.
Harold Burton
"Scout" <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
What if they gave a war and nobody came?
Mantra of the peaceniks of the 60s and 70s.
But they (conveniently) left out the next part.
"Why, then, the war would come to you!
He who stays home when the fight begins
And lets another fight for his cause
Should take care:
He who does not take part
In the battle will share in the defeat.
Even avoiding battle will not avoid battle.
Since not to fight for your own cause
Really means
Fighting on behalf of your enemy's cause."
From a poem by Bertolt Brecht
Snicker.
Michael A. Terrell
Someone who studied 'Political Science' should know that.
--
Greed is the root of all eBay.
Michael A. Terrell
To remind you that you are in an English speaking country.
Michael A. Terrell
Winston_Smith wrote:
>
> Why does a light switch say on and off? If it's on you don't need to
> read about it. If it's off you can't read it.
You've never seen a light switch in daylight?
John Husvar
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Winston_Smith wrote:
> >
> > Why does a light switch say on and off? If it's on you don't need to
> > read about it. If it's off you can't read it.
>
>
> You've never seen a light switch in daylight?
Then there's the possibility the light the switch controls isn't visible
from the switch's location.
RD (The Sandman)
23135C.083...@news.eternal-september.org:
His comment was a bit of humor not to be taken seriously.
--
Sleep well tonight,
Michael A. Terrell
"RD (The Sandman)" wrote:
>
> John Husvar <jhu...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:jhusvar-
> 23135C.083...@news.eternal-september.org:
>
> > In article <4B6C187C...@earthlink.net>,
> > "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Winston_Smith wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Why does a light switch say on and off? If it's on you don't need
> to
> >> > read about it. If it's off you can't read it.
> >>
> >>
> >> You've never seen a light switch in daylight?
> >
> > Then there's the possibility the light the switch controls isn't
> visible
> > from the switch's location.
>
> His comment was a bit of humor not to be taken seriously.
Femto humor?
Michael A. Terrell
Agreed. I didn't want him to have to think too much, all at once. :)
RD (The Sandman)
news:4B6CDE3C...@earthlink.net:
Nope, just an addition to the comments on my sig lines.