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Gunner Asch

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Mar 5, 2010, 9:04:53 PM3/5/10
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Sigh...I was hard at work getting the shop in order..then I wound up in
LA for a month.

I dont recall if I posted the pictures or not....this is what Ive got to
finish before going back south..well..probably not Finish..but...get a
grip on....

http://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/Larios#

Gunner

Jim Stewart

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Mar 5, 2010, 9:12:16 PM3/5/10
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Photo 12. Please rewire it so that a hot
phase isn't on a green wire. Makes me cringe
just looking at it...

Robert Swinney

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Mar 5, 2010, 10:06:57 PM3/5/10
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Good you checked in, Gunner. Kinda agree with Jim re. that green wire - a little scary but OTOH we
don't know where the other end of it goes, so it may just be improper use of color code. I presume
it ran ok in the past but to be safe you ought to check it out.

Bob Swinney
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Gunner Asch

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Mar 6, 2010, 12:50:25 AM3/6/10
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On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:12:16 -0800, Jim Stewart <jste...@jkmicro.com>
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Good eye.

I noticed that as well when I first opened up the motor. The rest of
the wiring was rotten as can be, so one assumes that the previous owner
used what he had at hand to rewire the motor.

When I figure out how to control the damned thing...seperate motor on
the table as well.....Ill rewire the entire thing to code. Those two
cables are not..not hooked to anything at the moment, simply dangling.

Still trying to figure out how to control the critter.

I need:
Spindle forward/reverse. This also controls table direction.
(Gear driven table highspeed retract in all 3 axis)
Spindle High/Low
Power On/Off.

Notice the control panel in photo 16.


Gunner

Gunner Asch

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Mar 6, 2010, 12:56:17 AM3/6/10
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On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 21:06:57 -0600, "Robert Swinney" <jud...@tx.rr.com>
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Check Photo #2

I should mention that in my real daytime job as an independant machine
tool tech...I run across countless cases of 3ph cords being made out of
common 3 wire cable...black/white/green. Not right, not code, but
still emensely common. And has been for many years. Shrug.

Gunner

Larry Jaques

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Mar 6, 2010, 10:44:09 AM3/6/10
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On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 21:50:25 -0800, the infamous Gunner Asch
<gunne...@gmail.com> scrawled the following:

>Notice the control panel in photo 16.

So, do the Eyetalyuns hire good looking women in short skirts to run
their mills? Floor-level is an assinine position for that CP.

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The blind are not good trailblazers.

-- federal judge Frank Easterbrook

Buerste

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Mar 6, 2010, 11:16:23 AM3/6/10
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I confess...


Gunner Asch

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Mar 6, 2010, 1:30:26 PM3/6/10
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On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 11:16:23 -0500, "Buerste" <bue...@buerste.com>
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<VBG>

Gunner

Gunner Asch

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Mar 6, 2010, 2:47:35 PM3/6/10
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On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 07:44:09 -0800, Larry Jaques
<lja...@diversify.invalid> wrote:

>On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 21:50:25 -0800, the infamous Gunner Asch
><gunne...@gmail.com> scrawled the following:
>
>>Notice the control panel in photo 16.
>
>So, do the Eyetalyuns hire good looking women in short skirts to run
>their mills? Floor-level is an assinine position for that CP.


One would hope so!

Ive always considered a corner to be a good place for most mills. Using
that one in a corner would be a head bumping nightmare.

Gunner

Whenever a Liberal utters the term "Common Sense approach"....grab your
wallet, your ass, and your guns because the sombitch is about to do
something damned nasty to all three of them.

Wes

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Mar 6, 2010, 4:49:40 PM3/6/10
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"Robert Swinney" <jud...@tx.rr.com> wrote:

>Photo 12. Please rewire it so that a hot
>phase isn't on a green wire. Makes me cringe
>just looking at it...


That sort of thing will get some one else killed and is criminal. Wiring a shotgun to the
front door is a slightly less serious offense imho.

Wes

Gunner Asch

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Mar 6, 2010, 6:01:59 PM3/6/10
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Yet its common as dirt, wide spread and the numbers of fatalities is
very very small.

But..its still quite unwise.

Wes

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Mar 6, 2010, 6:23:33 PM3/6/10
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Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Yet its common as dirt, wide spread and the numbers of fatalities is
>very very small.
>
>But..its still quite unwise.


Yes, I've seen it. I still want whoever did it to live a life of flipping burgers rather
than routing electrons.

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

Gunner Asch

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Mar 6, 2010, 8:51:21 PM3/6/10
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On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 18:23:33 -0500, Wes <clu...@lycos.com> wrote:

>Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Yet its common as dirt, wide spread and the numbers of fatalities is
>>very very small.
>>
>>But..its still quite unwise.
>
>
>Yes, I've seen it. I still want whoever did it to live a life of flipping burgers rather
>than routing electrons.
>
>Wes

Ok.

Gerald Miller

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Mar 6, 2010, 9:56:05 PM3/6/10
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On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:30:26 -0800, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
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It's handy to have rolls of vinyl tape in different colours around.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

Jim Stewart

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Mar 6, 2010, 11:36:22 PM3/6/10
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Say 10 Hail Hubbells and go in peace....

Wes

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Mar 7, 2010, 8:09:59 PM3/7/10
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Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>Yes, I've seen it. I still want whoever did it to live a life of flipping burgers rather
>>than routing electrons.
>>
>>Wes
>
>Ok.

I've seen it most often when 14/3 sjo was used for control cable to two hand controls on a
pedistal. Green was used for power common, white and black were used to go to the NC and
NO contacts on Reese buttons in series. Seems to happen where the only flexible cable in
the shop in stock is for making extension cords.

Wes

Bruce L. Bergman

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Mar 11, 2010, 4:08:40 AM3/11/10
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On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 21:56:05 -0500, Gerald Miller
<grmi...@rogers.com> wrote:

>It's handy to have rolls of vinyl tape in different colours around.

That only counts when you do the deed, then you tape it up properly
- but even then it's considered Temporary. You order 10-4 SO cable
and the proper 4-pin Twistlock cord caps and receptacles for each
tool, so it has a real ground connection.

If I ran around taping up every cable like that when I was at a
customer's for a repair job, I could easily waste days at it.

And they usually don't want to pay for it either, amazing how many
foolish people have the reins of the checkbook. I sometimes toss the
tape job in for free when I touch the tool under the "it's the right
thing to do, and nobody else is gonna do it" doctrine.

Besides, if it goes chassis hot I might be the first one to touch it
accidentally. And trust me, that is never a fun feeling.

--<< Bruce >>--

Gunner Asch

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Mar 19, 2010, 6:14:13 AM3/19/10
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I was down in a shop in Tustin a few years back, checking out a Smith
Lehman lathe...8" spindle bore. I was laying on my back on a concrete
floor, meter in hand checking something, and reached up and grabbed the
machine to pull myself up..and ZAPPPPPP!

There I was, doing a pretty good imitation of a marlin on 200 lb test
and one of the guys came over and kicked my arm hard enough to break my
grip.

The owner came running over about the same time, busted into a hard
sweat.

After laying there a minute or two, getting the ol heart beat back to
somewhere close to normal...I told him it really needed a decent ground,
after I found out where the short to machine was, and that plastic
really didnt make good machine feet insulators if he didnt have a good
ground. I killed power, found the problem, repaired it, installed a
good ground (he was using 3 wire instead of 4 wire) and installed a new
cable up to the disconnect on the wall. And a good ground.

One of the operators commented...."ya know...I tot I vas feeling a
little tingle ven I cranked da levers..but only ven I vor my going home
shoes (leather soles)"

Crom but I hate cheap bastards.


Gunner

Larry Jaques

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Mar 19, 2010, 5:45:08 PM3/19/10
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:14:13 -0700, the infamous Gunner Asch
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>On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:08:40 -0800, Bruce L. Bergman

Glad to hear that you survived it. So, what's the standard upcharge
for being electrocuted by your client? An extra day's work?


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Adults are obsolete children. --Dr. Seuss (Theodore Geisel, 1904-1991)
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Gunner Asch

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Mar 19, 2010, 8:58:41 PM3/19/10
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Shrug..that was in the Good Times..so I only charged him for the extra
hour or so that it took, plus cost of materials.

Today..that would cost him another 5 hours

Gunner

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