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JR North

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Mar 1, 2010, 6:34:28 PM3/1/10
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Have ME on C, 95 on D. Besides unplugging C (hard to get to), how can I
force a boot to the 95 HD? no option in BIOS to select different HDDs.
JR
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JR North

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Mar 1, 2010, 7:04:11 PM3/1/10
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The 95 HDD is slaved to C

JR
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Paul Hovnanian P.E.

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Mar 1, 2010, 6:39:01 PM3/1/10
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JR North wrote:
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> Have ME on C, 95 on D. Besides unplugging C (hard to get to), how can I
> force a boot to the 95 HD? no option in BIOS to select different HDDs.
> JR
> Dweller in the cellar


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306559

Also, Google "dual boot"

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Mar 1, 2010, 7:48:30 PM3/1/10
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On Mar 1, 4:34 pm, JR North <junkjasonrno...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> Have ME on C, 95 on D. Besides unplugging C (hard to get to), how can I
> force a boot to the 95 HD? no option in BIOS to select different HDDs.
> JR
> Dweller in the cellar
>
As I thought, the posted article says you can't do that. What you CAN
do, if the BIOS allows it is, to flip the drives so D: becomes the
first in the string. It may be an advanced setting, or your box may
be too old. Alternative, get removable IDE drive bays, put the drives
in the sleds and swap as needed. If you use Cable Select, you can swap
positions in the string easily. I've been doing that for years. Also
makes image backups dead easy. You might be able to jigger the Linux
bootloader to do what you want and I think there's been at least one
multi-boot piece of shareware out there. The problem with multi-boot
is that if the first drive fries, you get to reinstall not just that
one but fix up two installs. One reason I do image backups is to
avoid doing just that.

Or you can run Virtual PC on XP or later and run whatever OS you like
inside, simultaneously, if you like. It's got some gotchas, like
limited hardware access, but is adequate for a lot of things.

Stan

John D.

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Mar 2, 2010, 1:34:53 AM3/2/10
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On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 15:34:28 -0800, JR North
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>Have ME on C, 95 on D. Besides unplugging C (hard to get to), how can I
>force a boot to the 95 HD? no option in BIOS to select different HDDs.
>JR
>Dweller in the cellar


The MS Windows, and I think MS DOS, are hardwired to boot from the
first sector on the "C:" disk.


John D.
(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

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Mar 2, 2010, 3:16:50 AM3/2/10
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> Have ME on C, 95 on D. Besides unplugging C (hard to get to), how can I
> force a boot to the 95 HD? no option in BIOS to select different HDDs.
> JR
> Dweller in the cellar
>
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John D.

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Mar 2, 2010, 6:28:06 AM3/2/10
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If you run Linux the installer probably set things up so you can boot
either the MS system or Linux. If not it is rather simple to configure
the Grub loader to do it as you can boot Linux from any disk.

(I don't understand why the guy wants to load "ME" or "95" anyway :-)

John D.
(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

mike

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Mar 2, 2010, 8:25:10 AM3/2/10
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Do you have an old DOS start-up floppy with fdisk on it? If so, you
might be able to go into fdisk, make the 'D' drive active, and then it
should boot from the D...that was 'should', no guarantees as we're
talking Micro$oft and old computer components.

Mike

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Mar 2, 2010, 1:10:56 PM3/2/10
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That's basically what some of the multi-boot apps did, play with the
partition tables. Not my cup of tea, but somebody liked it... If you
do it, make sure you've got the partition tables backed up somewhere
else.

Stan

Michael A. Terrell

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Mar 2, 2010, 3:48:40 PM3/2/10
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"John D." wrote:
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> If you run Linux the installer probably set things up so you can boot
> either the MS system or Linux. If not it is rather simple to configure
> the Grub loader to do it as you can boot Linux from any disk.
>
> (I don't understand why the guy wants to load "ME" or "95" anyway :-)


Some older but useful hardware runs under it. I keep a Win ME
computer for my scanner and OCR software. It's on my home network, so I
can scan and convert documents, then move them to another computer. It
also has the backup files for several websites & the FTP software. It
isn't used to browse the web or any other online application.


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Steve Walker

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Mar 2, 2010, 6:03:00 PM3/2/10
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JR North wrote:
> Have ME on C, 95 on D. Besides unplugging C (hard to get to), how can I
> force a boot to the 95 HD? no option in BIOS to select different HDDs.
> JR
> Dweller in the cellar
>

DPDT switch attached to Master/Slave jumpers, one way jumpers the master
on one drive and the slave on the other, and vice versa for the other
switch position.


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Michael A. Terrell

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Mar 2, 2010, 8:41:11 PM3/2/10
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Steve Walker wrote:
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> JR North wrote:
> > Have ME on C, 95 on D. Besides unplugging C (hard to get to), how can I
> > force a boot to the 95 HD? no option in BIOS to select different HDDs.
> > JR
> > Dweller in the cellar
> >
>
> DPDT switch attached to Master/Slave jumpers, one way jumpers the master
> on one drive and the slave on the other, and vice versa for the other
> switch position.


That will work on a old computer, but most newer IDE drives I see are
set up as Cable Select.

Lloyd E. Sponenburgh

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Mar 2, 2010, 9:34:24 PM3/2/10
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> Have ME on C, 95 on D. Besides unplugging C (hard to get to), how can I
>> > force a boot to the 95 HD? no option in BIOS to select different HDDs.
>> > JR
>> > Dweller in the cellar
>

Most versions of Linux have a multi-partition boot routine you can install,
even if you don't run Linux. They'll find and flag any bootable partition,
then allow you to select the partition at boot time.

LLoyd

Jon Danniken

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Mar 3, 2010, 8:15:08 AM3/3/10
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JR North wrote:
> Have ME on C, 95 on D. Besides unplugging C (hard to get to), how can
> I force a boot to the 95 HD? no option in BIOS to select different
> HDDs. JR

If they are on two physically different drives, you can hook up a DPDT
switch to the master/slave jumper on each drive.

The switch is attached to the front of the computer, and when the computer
is off, you flip the switch to select which drive you wish to boot to. When
you turn on the computer, the drive you want to boot into becomes the master
drive, and you boot into that OS. The switch has no effect once the
computer has booted.

I ran with this setup for a couple years dual booting W2k/WXP (before I
"had" to switch over to XP). Worked great.

Of course, with W95/W98, you might be able to just use a boot floppy.

Jon


Jim Wilkins

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Mar 3, 2010, 8:35:28 AM3/3/10
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On Mar 3, 8:15 am, "Jon Danniken" <jondanSPAMni...@yaSPAMhoo.com>
wrote:

> JR North wrote:
> > Have ME on C, 95 on D. Besides unplugging C (hard to get to), how can
> > I force a boot to the 95 HD? no option in BIOS to select different
> > HDDs. JR
> ...

> Of course, with W95/W98, you might be able to just use a boot floppy.
>
> Jon

I set up a DOS boot floppy with COMSPEC = C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM in the
Autoexec.bat so I could remove the floppy.

You could write a batch file named "95.bat" that runs D:\..\WIN.COM to
start Win 95 from the DOS prompt, or automatically.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/142544
Sorry, I never played with ME.

jsw

Steve Masta

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Mar 3, 2010, 1:49:07 PM3/3/10
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JR North wrote:
> Have ME on C, 95 on D. Besides unplugging C (hard to get to), how can I
> force a boot to the 95 HD? no option in BIOS to select different HDDs.
> JR
> Dweller in the cellar
>

Sound like a job for Smart Boot Manager
http://sourceforge.net/projects/btmgr/

download sbminst.exe
http://sourceforge.net/projects/btmgr/files/btmgr/3.7-1/sbminst.exe/download

put a diskette in drive A: then from a DOS/Command Prompt window enter:
sbminst -t us -d 0
to copy the files to the floppy.

Set your BIOS to boot from floppy and when it boots you'll be given a
choice of which drive to boot from. Screenshots on the website.

Steve

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