Obama's Olympic Failure Highlights Limits of His International Appeal
Compact Adolescent
Obama's Olympic Failure Highlights Limits of His International Appeal
It may have only been the Olympics but Obama's high-profile failure to win
the games for Chicago has raised serious questions about his perceived
international star power.
FOXNews.com Saturday, October 03, 2009
This wasn't supposed to happen to President Obama.
It may have only been the Olympics but Obama's high-profile failure to win
the games for Chicago has raised serious questions about his perceived
international star power.
Obama's last-minute appeal for Chicago to host the 2016 Summer Games fell
flat. Chicago was knocked out in the first round and the top prize
eventually went to Rio de Janeiro.
If Obama can't sway Olympic officials, how can he wring concessions from
Iran on its nuclear program, secure crucial support from allies to overhaul
two wars or rebuild the U.S. image in the Middle East?
Since taking office in January, Obama has made a number of gestures to the
international community. He ordered the closing of the military detention
facility at Guantanamo Bay, banned the torture of terrorist suspects and
moved to address climate change and reduce nuclear weapons. He even
delivered a speech to the Muslim world.
Still, the president doesn't have much to show for his efforts, feeding a
growing perception that he is tall on rhetoric and short on results and more
of a celebrity than a leader.
Despite his global overtures, Obama has been rebuffed by international
leaders for stimulus money, for additional troops in Afghanistan and now the
Olympics.
"It shows how childish our understanding of international affairs is,"
political analyst Tucker Carlson told FOX News. "The idea that countries,
because they like the president personally will change their basic positions
on things is absurd."
Countries, Carlson said, act in their own interest, and U.S. elections don't
affect what those interests are.
"So the idea that Obama, because he's popular in the rest of the world, will
somehow make America a more effective negotiator internationally, that's
absurd," he said. "That was one of the reasons people voted for this
president in the first place. I thought it was silly then. It's proved to be
silly now. This is an adult world. People don't act because they have
affection for a leader."
Obama tried to save face upon his return to the White House, congratulating
Brazil and thanking those who worked on Chicago's bid.
But his involvement in the Olympic quest has drawn harsh criticism of his
leadership.
Carlson said it was foolish for Obama to put his credibility on the line
when outcome was uncertain.
"Just like a lawyer never asks questions of a witness in court unless he
knows what the answers are going to be, you don't want to send the president
out on a high profile mission like this unless you're certain he's going to
succeed," he told FOX News.
That raises questions about whether Obama will do as poorly predicting how
health care votes are leaning in Congress and make similarly ill-fated
strategic decisions as that complex debate plays out for the rest of the
year.
Carlson said the aides who advised the president to go to Copenhagen should
be fired immediately.
"I think that's a feeling among Democrats too," he said. "This made the
president look like an amateur."
But Carlson added it may have been good for Obama to suffer such a public
humiliation.
"It's good for us to fail in a high profile way every once in a while
because it reminds us that we're not God and there are limits in our ability
to sway other people," he said.
"The one thing President Obama hasn't done very often is fail. Failing puts
your life in perspective and it keeps you from overreaching the next time.
This administration overreaches dramatically. Maybe his will cause him to
rethink some other policy."
Jeff M
> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/03/obamas-olympic-failure-highlights-limits-international-appeal/
[snip]
> If Obama can't sway Olympic officials, how can he wring concessions from
> Iran on its nuclear program, secure crucial support from allies to
> overhaul two wars or rebuild the U.S. image in the Middle East? [snip]
This is the about the single dumbest sentence I've read this year.
Compact Adolescent
"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoNoThanks.Org> wrote in message
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You didn't answer the question.
Ed Huntress
"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoNoThanks.Org> wrote in message
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Adolescent contemplates these things whilst sitting atop his rock, with the
water rising around him. It must be hard to think straight when there's a
pointed piece of granite working its way up your butt.
--
Ed Huntress
Compact Adolescent
"Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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Still having flashbacks of your toilet overflowing? Better learn to swim old
man, or buy yourself a pair of water wings!
mattathayde
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Compact Adolescent wrote:
> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/03/obamas-olympic-failure-highlights-
limits-international-appeal/
wow this is the dumbest neoconservative psychopath BS i have seen yet,
first off
fox needs to wake up because they seem to miss the 100s if not 1000s of
people
who have to do huge amounts of cgi and planing to pitch a city for the
olympics.
most of the pitch is proving you have or will have the ability to handle
the
100s of 1000s of people who will be there for a few weeks, that is a much
much
harder task to do than people seem to realize, for god sake if china has a
hard
time dealing what that many extra people when they have billion s of
citizens
its stupid to think that the US can just choose a site and say it will
work.
obama has about as much responsibility in not getting the games as you and
me.
-matt
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Jeff M
How can you bake a pie if you can't kick a field goal?
Ed Huntress
"Compact Adolescent" <not...@bright.duh> wrote in message
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Jeez. *You're* the one with his asshole sliding down over a rock, not me,
pard'.
--
Ed Huntress
Mark Rand
Given that the average Olympic bid takes a couple of years to put together,
it's got to be nearly all Bush's fault :-)
Mark Rand
RTFM
Ignoramus2624
we will NOT be hosting the Olympic games. Doubtfully Obama had much
role in the rejection, but in any case, I am delighted by the
outcome.
i
technomaNge
Please explain.
Convincing people to do what you want them to do in each instance.
Obama failed at the Olympics, what makes you think he can do
any better anywhere else?
technomaNge
--
A lot of people think I need anger management...
I say "Fuck them." (Jesse James, Monster Garage)
Jeff M
> Jeff M wrote:
>> Compact Adolescent wrote:
>>> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/03/obamas-olympic-failure-highlights-limits-international-appeal/
>>
>>
>>
>> [snip]
>>> If Obama can't sway Olympic officials, how can he wring concessions
>>> from Iran on its nuclear program, secure crucial support from allies
>>> to overhaul two wars or rebuild the U.S. image in the Middle East?
>>> [snip]
>>
>> This is the about the single dumbest sentence I've read this year.
>
>
> Please explain.
>
> Convincing people to do what you want them to do in each instance.
>
> Obama failed at the Olympics, what makes you think he can do
> any better anywhere else?
>
>
> technomaNge
The IOC and it's unique internal structure and politics are completely
different from international diplomacy. In the former, Obama was
essentially a late-arriving outsider with no real cards to play, but in
the latter, Obama is the leader of the most influential state in the
free world, with undeniable and global influence and reach.
Too_Many_Tools
> Compact Adolescent wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > If Obama can't sway Olympic officials, how can he wring concessions from
> > Iran on its nuclear program, secure crucial support from allies to
> > overhaul two wars or rebuild the U.S. image in the Middle East? [snip]
>
> This is the about the single dumbest sentence I've read this year.
I agree.
Consider the source...and the poster.
TMT
Compact Adolescent
"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoNoThanks.Org> wrote in message
news:zaadnUQMDvi74FrX...@giganews.com...
Yeah, his wife Michelle said he always wanted to be a professional
basketball player. I guess he failed both of those as well, huh?
Compact Adolescent
"Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:4ac77f5c$0$4980$607e...@cv.net...
Your delusion and fear of water, not mine. My ass is high and dry, my ships
are seaworthy, and my hands are nice and steady on the rudders. Try to flush
more often, or ease up on the fiber and prunes, oldtimer.
Compact Adolescent
"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoNoThanks.Org> wrote in message
news:ifadndk6Vc7VAFrX...@giganews.com...
The leader of the most influential state in the free world should be smart
enough to know, that an outsider sticking his nose where it is unwelcome is
going to have repercussions. He ends up looking like a fool. In Chicago,
Obama and his wife are seen as the reason the games went to Rio, the topic
has been dominating the airwaves non-stop for days.
Iran already thinks he is full of shit as a leader, he couldn't negotiate a
bone away from his dog (who incidentally was named after himself), let alone
nukes from a rouge nation such as Iran.
John R. Carroll
Perhaps Obama should send Sarah Palin to Iran to do the negotiating.
You know, Rogue to Rogue.
She could bring them copies of her book!
LOL
--
John R. Carroll
Compact Adolescent
"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:093f1fe8-1b8f-40e3...@p9g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
I can see how it might seem stupid to you who is learning English as a
second language, and my friend Jeff.
Compact Adolescent
"John R. Carroll" <nu...@bidness.dev.nul> wrote in message
news:eZudnbhSoMylKVrX...@giganews.com...
Obama can't send his own aunt back to Africa, so how is he going to send
Sarah anywhere? Perhaps she'll go on her own when she is President.
Compact Adolescent
"Ignoramus2624" <ignora...@NOSPAM.2624.invalid> wrote in message
news:UKGdnaJkL6LICFrX...@giganews.com...
> I
I also am glad. No, it wasn't Obama, it was his wife saying what a sacrifice
it was for her to go out there. Or was that Oprah? I wish they all would
have just stayed there.
John R. Carroll
AF1, his private airline. The guy could, courtesy of G.W. "Goober" Bush,
send her or even you anywhere.
Rootin' Tootin' Hockey puck wearing lipstick slathered pig that Palin is,
she'd be perfect, and Sarah's principal interest is in doing right by her
country, not her Party or herself. That's her gig isn't it?
Mongoloid kids and Pro Retard.
I say we strip her saggy ass naked and parachute her into Teheran.
Either they'll gouge their eyes out and commit suicide or we'll own their
ass's.
It's a win - win and I'm dead sure Sarah and her coven will be right out in
front on this one.
--
John R. Carroll
Wes
>Jeez. *You're* the one with his asshole sliding down over a rock, not me,
>pard'.
Ed, what is with you and John lately? You both are sliding into the gutter with your
responses.
Wes
Ed Huntress
"Wes" <clu...@lycos.com> wrote in message
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Testing Adolescent's cool. He reacts in a funny way. It looks like he's had
it too easy for a while, and I'm just trying to provoke him. d8-)
This is Whac-a-Mole with righties, Wes. It's the only entertainment left in
this place, thanks to Cliff and a couple of others who keep cross-posting.
--
Ed Huntress
Wes
>> Ed, what is with you and John lately? You both are sliding into the
>> gutter with your
>> responses.
>>
>> Wes
>
>Testing Adolescent's cool. He reacts in a funny way. It looks like he's had
>it too easy for a while, and I'm just trying to provoke him. d8-)
>
>This is Whac-a-Mole with righties, Wes. It's the only entertainment left in
>this place, thanks to Cliff and a couple of others who keep cross-posting.
If Cliff and TMT left this world or found other interests, this group would come back to
life. While I like the relative anonymity of Usenet, I'm starting to think maybe we
should all declare who we are.
I also wonder how many psychologists are researching Usenet and behavior. It seems to
bring out the worst in some people.
I'm even filtering right wingers out if they are not metalworking participants at RCM or
AMC.
If only we could learn to stop feeding the trolls. Myself included.
Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller
Wes
That must be a lie, all Chicago types wanted it if I can believe the mass media. ;)
I am also delighted. Chicago would be another scandal which we do not need. San
Francisco, New York, LA, I'd be fine with it. Just not Dailyville.
Wes
--
Someone please resolve for me the dichotomy of 'ignorance of the law is no defense'
with congress critters telling me they don't read the
bills because you need a team of lawyers to understand it.
Larry Jaques
<clu...@lycos.com> scrawled the following:
There's prolly a little bit of arsenic in the Obama koolaid, or they
drank triple doses. <shrug>
--
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw
Too_Many_Tools
> "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoNoThanks.Org> wrote in message
>
> news:zaadnUQMDvi74FrX...@giganews.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Compact Adolescent wrote:
>
> >> "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoNoThanks.Org> wrote in message
> >>news:BtKdncR9lsZr6lrX...@giganews.com...
> >>> Compact Adolescent wrote:
>
> >>> [snip]
> >>>> If Obama can't sway Olympic officials, how can he wring concessions
> >>>> from Iran on its nuclear program, secure crucial support from allies to
> >>>> overhaul two wars or rebuild the U.S. image in the Middle East? [snip]
>
> >>> This is the about the single dumbest sentence I've read this year.
>
> >> You didn't answer the question.
>
> > How can you bake a pie if you can't kick a field goal?
>
> Yeah, his wife Michelle said he always wanted to be a professional
>
> - Show quoted text -
Yeah...I guess being the President of the United States is a sad
second place.
And you?
Since your profession is an Usenet spammer with Mommy issues, it must
be disappointing not to be the local dog catcher.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
> On Sat, 03 Oct 2009 11:12:34 -0500, Jeff M <NoS...@NoNoThanks.Org> wrote:
> >Compact Adolescent wrote:
>
> >[snip]
> >> If Obama can't sway Olympic officials, how can he wring concessions from
> >> Iran on its nuclear program, secure crucial support from allies to
> >> overhaul two wars or rebuild the U.S. image in the Middle East? [snip]
>
> >This is the about the single dumbest sentence I've read this year.
>
> Given that the average Olympic bid takes a couple of years to put together,
> it's got to be nearly all Bush's fault :-)
>
> Mark Rand
> RTFM
LOL...actually you are correct.
Chicago had already lost...on Bush's watch.
TMT
Ignoramus2624
> Ignoramus2624 <ignora...@NOSPAM.2624.invalid> wrote:
>
>>As a Chicago area resident who works in Chicago, I am delighted that
>>we will NOT be hosting the Olympic games. Doubtfully Obama had much
>>role in the rejection, but in any case, I am delighted by the
>>outcome.
>
> I am also delighted. Chicago would be another scandal which we do not need. San
> Francisco, New York, LA, I'd be fine with it. Just not Dailyville.
This place is so corrupt, no one is even interested in corruption.
The norion of "very corrupt", however, is relative.
Moscow (Russia) is a much more corrupt place, for example.
The wife of the longtime mayor of Moscow owns a "construction
company", and, apparently, 80% of all construction projects in Moscow
use her company as a subcontractor for something.
I am not kidding.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yelena_Baturina
i
Too_Many_Tools
You mean you don't like to hear someone sound like you?
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
But of course your buddies like Gunner get a free pass.
Wes...just admit it...you are a conservative winger who can't handle
The Truth.
And there is plenty of Truth to go around as the Country struggles
back from the edge of the disaster that Bush brought us to.
TMT
Curly Surmudgeon
<nu...@bidness.dev.nul> wrote:
<snip>
> Perhaps Obama should send Sarah Palin to Iran to do the negotiating. You
> know, Rogue to Rogue.
>
> She could bring them copies of her book! LOL
Have you used amazon.com for books?
After each synopsis their robot offers books in the same genre, usually
entitled "Frequently Bought Together" and "Customers Who Bought This Item
Also Bought" with yet another list.
I suspect that Sarah's "Customers Who Bought This Item Also Bought" will
be blank. Most buyers will be illiterate.
--
Regards, Curly
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Ed Huntress
> "Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>>> Ed, what is with you and John lately? You both are sliding into the
>>> gutter with your
>>> responses.
>>>
>>> Wes
>>
>>Testing Adolescent's cool. He reacts in a funny way. It looks like he's
>>had
>>it too easy for a while, and I'm just trying to provoke him. d8-)
>>
>>This is Whac-a-Mole with righties, Wes. It's the only entertainment left
>>in
>>this place, thanks to Cliff and a couple of others who keep cross-posting.
>
> If Cliff and TMT left this world or found other interests, this group
> would come back to
> life. While I like the relative anonymity of Usenet, I'm starting to
> think maybe we
> should all declare who we are.
>
> I also wonder how many psychologists are researching Usenet and behavior.
> It seems to
> bring out the worst in some people.
>
> I'm even filtering right wingers out if they are not metalworking
> participants at RCM or
> AMC.
>
> If only we could learn to stop feeding the trolls. Myself included.
>
>
> Wes
Wes, take a look at a few patterns that have emerged lately. Adolescent
isn't responding with a list of NGs that happens to include RCM: he CREATES
new posts, one after another, with RCM in the list. He's actively inserting
RCM into the distributions. That's why I have no respect for him, and feel
free to say anything to him that reflects my annoyance. d8-)
And a few weeks ago you, or someone else, trimmed a distro from a thread
that Cliff had created, leaving just RCM on it, and Cliff responded with all
of the other NGs pasted back on.
Also note that Adolescent got no responses from RCM for a long time but he
continued to include RCM in his distro lists. He's operating like a spammer;
once a NG is on there, he keeps using it. It's a numbers game for him.
There is no way that non-response is going to affect these people. Trolling
has morphed into something that's more like spamming. They aren't looking
for an argument so much as a forum for plastering their views up on the
wall, like posters in a subway. Cliff, Adolescent, and one or two others are
creating threads to provoke and to insult other people, and they don't care
when or if anyone responds from those groups. If they don't get enough
response to indicate that they're getting under someone's skin, they just
start new, more provocative threads.
You aren't going to get rid of them, least of all by ignoring them. They'll
just turn up the noise level until they get a response or two. That's all it
takes to keep them going. And if no one responds, they just keep starting
new threads.
Adolescent has picked up one of Gunner's old habits, cutting and pasting
lengthy diatribes from the right-wing media. He's not looking for arguments
at all. You can tell he isn't really into that part of it. What he's "into"
is spreading his obnoxious polemics around Usenet.
I have several people, one from RCM, in my bozo bin and they've all been
there for over a year. But they keep "leaking" through. Often it's because
someone from another NG responded to them -- something which no amount of
discipline on our part will stop.
The effect, to me, is to seriously foul the air and the mood in this place.
It's really become obnoxious, especially since the right wing has taken off
on a rampage against the new administration. These people are among the most
loutish, juvenile, and selfish creeps I've ever seen. In that atmosphere,
good on-topic discussions tend to have a short life and to go through a
transformation into name-calling with amazing speed.
So I'm not really here in spirit. I welcome the few worthwhile things that
get through the noise, but Usenet is near death as it is, and I'm getting
ready to move out and find another place to talk. Maybe I'll follow Jim
Rozen. Meantime, I may hammer on the Whac-a-Moles from time to time, because
it really has no effect, except to relieve some annoyance. I'm really
tempted to take the gloves off and see how much Adolescent can take. d8-)
--
Ed Huntress
Compact Adolescent
"John R. Carroll" <nu...@bidness.dev.nul> wrote in message
news:AoKdnZEqaeTrRVrX...@giganews.com...
Perhaps he can send you, you seem eager to please. Maybe the hypnosis will
wear off when you get there.
>
> Rootin' Tootin' Hockey puck wearing lipstick slathered pig that Palin is,
> she'd be perfect, and Sarah's principal interest is in doing right by her
> country, not her Party or herself. That's her gig isn't it?
> Mongoloid kids and Pro Retard.
>
>
> I say we strip her saggy ass naked and parachute her into Teheran.
> Either they'll gouge their eyes out and commit suicide or we'll own their
> ass's.
Maybe she would strip your sorry ass and use it for moose bait. You talk so
tough but you would be shaking in your pink slippers if you were in the same
room with her. She would own your pansy ass and you would be too scared to
blither any of your ravings that you do from behind your keyboard. Why are
you libs so scared of her? Laughing at John Carol.
Compact Adolescent
"Curly Surmudgeon" <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2009.10...@live.com...
> On Sat, 03 Oct 2009 13:26:26 -0800, "John R. Carroll"
> <nu...@bidness.dev.nul> wrote:
> <snip>
>> Perhaps Obama should send Sarah Palin to Iran to do the negotiating. You
>> know, Rogue to Rogue.
>>
>> She could bring them copies of her book! LOL
>
> Have you used amazon.com for books?
>
> After each synopsis their robot offers books in the same genre, usually
> entitled "Frequently Bought Together" and "Customers Who Bought This Item
> Also Bought" with yet another list.
>
> I suspect that Sarah's "Customers Who Bought This Item Also Bought" will
> be blank. Most buyers will be illiterate.
>
>
I suspect it will sell well in Argentina too!
> Regards, Curly
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Beats off in the Rose Parade
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bill Noble
discussion snipped
. I'm really
> tempted to take the gloves off and see how much Adolescent can take. d8-)
>
> --
> Ed Huntress
the problem is, as we know that without more effort than it's worth, it's
only words - and to go seek out Adolescent, or any of the other "special
people" and to actually show them how annoying they are, would probably be a
violation of some laws. Even in Texas, the "he needed killing" defense
seems weaker when the intenet is in the middle. And, forensics being what
they are, implanting a digital reward would probably not remain anonymous.
But maybe we can take a lesson from Gandalf, in the Hobbit, where he saves
Bilbo and the others in the party by tricking the trolls into arguing with
themselves until the sun comes up, at which time they are turned into stone.
Maybe some sunshine on the trolls....
Ed Huntress
"Bill Noble" <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
news:ha9bsl$53a$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
Oh, shoot, I'm not talking about a physical confrontation. I'm talking about
discussing his intellectual and sexual inadequacies. <g>
--
Ed Huntress
Bill Noble
no, no - remember Gandalf - get a different troll to do that, you just
provide the sunshine - a real name and address might make Adolescent grow
up, and I don't think that discovering such a thing violates any laws.
as an aside, out of 12 new topics/threads posted since I posted the thing
you replied two, one is related to metal working, the remainder are all
spam/OT, and they are all political.
One more neuron, he'd have a synapse
Too_Many_Tools
> "John R. Carroll" <nu...@bidness.dev.nul> wrote in messagenews:AoKdnZEqaeTrRVrX...@giganews.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Compact Adolescent wrote:
> >> "John R. Carroll" <nu...@bidness.dev.nul> wrote in message
> >>news:eZudnbhSoMylKVrX...@giganews.com...
> >>> Compact Adolescent wrote:
> >>>> "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoNoThanks.Org> wrote in message
> >>>>news:ifadndk6Vc7VAFrX...@giganews.com...
> >>>>> technomaNge wrote:
> >>>>>> Jeff M wrote:
> >>>>>>> Compact Adolescent wrote:
>
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
LOL...scared of her?
ROTFLMAO
Hey Stupid...we are LAUGHING AT HER.
And at you.
TMT
Strabo
> Compact Adolescent wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoNoThanks.Org> wrote in message
>>> Compact Adolescent wrote:
>>>> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/03/obamas-olympic-failure-highlights-limits-international-appeal/
>>>>
>>>
>>>> If Obama can't sway Olympic officials, how can he wring concessions
>>>> from Iran on its nuclear program, secure crucial support from allies
>>>> to overhaul two wars or rebuild the U.S. image in the Middle East?
>>>> [snip]
>>>
>>> This is the about the single dumbest sentence I've read this year.
>>
>
> How can you bake a pie if you can't kick a field goal?
>
These are not disparate tasks.
Each involves having sufficient knowledge and acumen to sway the
opposition to act in a predetermined manner.
Obama used all the powers of the presidency plus his personal
reputation to achieve a relatively minor task and failed.
Obama screwed up big-time.
Strabo
> technomaNge wrote:
>> Jeff M wrote:
>>> Compact Adolescent wrote:
>>>> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/03/obamas-olympic-failure-highlights-limits-international-appeal/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>> If Obama can't sway Olympic officials, how can he wring concessions
>>>> from Iran on its nuclear program, secure crucial support from allies
>>>> to overhaul two wars or rebuild the U.S. image in the Middle East?
>>>> [snip]
>>>
>>> This is the about the single dumbest sentence I've read this year.
>>
>>
>>
>> Convincing people to do what you want them to do in each instance.
>>
>> Obama failed at the Olympics, what makes you think he can do
>> any better anywhere else?
>>
>>
>> technomaNge
>
>
> The IOC and it's unique internal structure and politics are completely
> different from international diplomacy. In the former, Obama was
> essentially a late-arriving outsider with no real cards to play, but in
> the latter, Obama is the leader of the most influential state in the
> free world, with undeniable and global influence and reach.
>
The power of persuasion works the same in each realm.
Wes
>Wes, take a look at a few patterns that have emerged lately. Adolescent
>isn't responding with a list of NGs that happens to include RCM: he CREATES
>new posts, one after another, with RCM in the list. He's actively inserting
>RCM into the distributions. That's why I have no respect for him, and feel
>free to say anything to him that reflects my annoyance. d8-)
I kill filtered CA a long time ago. Googling shows a pure troll as in no redeeming
qualities.
I know how you feel though. TMT iritated me enough that I used some rather foul language
in reponse. That is problably what he wanted. He wanted me to lower myself. Perhaps CA
wants the same from you?
>
>And a few weeks ago you, or someone else, trimmed a distro from a thread
>that Cliff had created, leaving just RCM on it, and Cliff responded with all
>of the other NGs pasted back on.
Cliff could be a contributing member of some groups but he can't turn off his rants. I
wonder how he would have tested on that narcissist test in an earlier thread?
>
>Also note that Adolescent got no responses from RCM for a long time but he
>continued to include RCM in his distro lists. He's operating like a spammer;
>once a NG is on there, he keeps using it. It's a numbers game for him.
The view from here is you, replying to yourself since most of his troll bait from the
other groups have been filtered out. I fired up the laptop the other day and saw R.C.M.
with the filters off. What a mess. I gotta transfer my current filter list to it asap.
>
>There is no way that non-response is going to affect these people. Trolling
>has morphed into something that's more like spamming. They aren't looking
>for an argument so much as a forum for plastering their views up on the
>wall, like posters in a subway. Cliff, Adolescent, and one or two others are
>creating threads to provoke and to insult other people, and they don't care
>when or if anyone responds from those groups. If they don't get enough
>response to indicate that they're getting under someone's skin, they just
>start new, more provocative threads.
That is why we have kill filters. If we don't see them, we don't get tempted to reply. I
know it is hard though. You can look up some of my earlier posts and I was prime troll
bait. I keep trying not to bite. Hope I can keep my resolve come winter.
>
>You aren't going to get rid of them, least of all by ignoring them. They'll
>just turn up the noise level until they get a response or two. That's all it
>takes to keep them going. And if no one responds, they just keep starting
>new threads.
The analogy of a screaming kid being ignored by the parent until the kid wears himself out
applies. However, the screaming is hard on all the bystanders. ;)
Wes
Lewis Hartswick
>
>
> Obama used all the powers of the presidency plus his personal
> reputation to achieve a relatively minor task and failed.
Maybe it was his "personal reputation" that did the trick. :-)
...lew...
Compact Adolescent
"Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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>
Whack a mole? The only thing Ed whacks off is himself. I have asked many
times in this group to put your spammers on a shorter leash. That includes
TMT, Cliff, and now for some reason Ed Cunt in a dress. You choose to spill
your spam into m.s., I just forward it back here where it belongs. I have
never seen a post from this group reprimanding either TMT or Cliff for
cross-posting their racist bigoted crap into m.s.
Childish Ed Cunt in a dress freely admits that this is fun for him, good,
let him enjoy the fun. He's another troll that you let run off leash and
shit in m.s. I'm just throwing the shit back over the fence. Keep your
trolls on a shorter leash and you will see the cross-posting go away. FWIW,
r.c.m. is only experiencing a small fraction of what we experience from your
trolls. Have a nice day.
Compact Adolescent
"Bill Noble" <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
news:ha9bsl$53a$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
Recording for my records.
Phil Amint
"Compact Adolescent" <not...@bright.duh> wrote in message
news:4ac8...@news.x-privat.org...
>
>
> "Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:4ac82949$0$22548$607e...@cv.net...
>> So I'm not really here in spirit. I welcome the few worthwhile things
>> that get through the noise, but Usenet is near death as it is, and I'm
>> getting ready to move out and find another place to talk. Maybe I'll
>> follow Jim Rozen. Meantime, I may hammer on the Whac-a-Moles from time to
>> time, because it really has no effect, except to relieve some annoyance.
>> I'm really tempted to take the gloves off and see how much Adolescent can
>> take. d8-)
>>
>> --
>> Ed Huntress
>>
>>
>
> Whack a mole? The only thing Ed whacks off is himself. I have asked many
> times in this group to put your spammers on a shorter leash. That includes
> TMT, Cliff, and now for some reason Ed Cunt in a dress. You choose to
> spill your spam into m.s., I just forward it back here where it belongs. I
> have never seen a post from this group reprimanding either TMT or Cliff
> for cross-posting their racist bigoted crap into m.s.
>
> Childish Ed Cunt in a dress freely admits that this is fun for him, good,
> let him enjoy the fun. He's another troll that you let run off leash and
> shit in m.s. I'm just throwing the shit back over the fence. Keep your
> trolls on a shorter leash and you will see the cross-posting go away.
> FWIW, r.c.m. is only experiencing a small fraction of what we experience
> from your trolls. Have a nice day.
I've been lurking, but I guess it's time to speak up. This CA character has
a very good point. The m.s. group which is one of my favorites has been
over-run with spam from this group. The suspects seem top be Cliff and TMT
who post to many newsgroups at the same time.
While I don't like seeing the spam here in rec.crafts.metalworking, I can't
say that I blame the misc.survivalism crew from taking out their
frustrations on us. Cliff, TMT and now Ed and John Carroll (not mentioned
earlier, but is also a participant) are all belong to us, and we have
ignored requests to try to keep them in check. So quit posting off-topic to
their newsgroup and lets see if the spam eases up as CA seems to be saying
it will.
Phil Amint
"Compact Adolescent" <not...@bright.duh> wrote in message
news:4ac8...@news.x-privat.org...
>
>
> "Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:4ac82949$0$22548$607e...@cv.net...
>> So I'm not really here in spirit. I welcome the few worthwhile things
>> that get through the noise, but Usenet is near death as it is, and I'm
>> getting ready to move out and find another place to talk. Maybe I'll
>> follow Jim Rozen. Meantime, I may hammer on the Whac-a-Moles from time to
>> time, because it really has no effect, except to relieve some annoyance.
>> I'm really tempted to take the gloves off and see how much Adolescent can
>> take. d8-)
>>
>> --
>> Ed Huntress
>>
>>
>
> Whack a mole? The only thing Ed whacks off is himself. I have asked many
> times in this group to put your spammers on a shorter leash. That includes
> TMT, Cliff, and now for some reason Ed Cunt in a dress. You choose to
> spill your spam into m.s., I just forward it back here where it belongs. I
> have never seen a post from this group reprimanding either TMT or Cliff
> for cross-posting their racist bigoted crap into m.s.
>
> Childish Ed Cunt in a dress freely admits that this is fun for him, good,
> let him enjoy the fun. He's another troll that you let run off leash and
> shit in m.s. I'm just throwing the shit back over the fence. Keep your
> trolls on a shorter leash and you will see the cross-posting go away.
> FWIW, r.c.m. is only experiencing a small fraction of what we experience
> from your trolls. Have a nice day.
Compact Adolescent
"Phil Amint" <ap...@bulb.cfl> wrote in message
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Sorry about the double-post, still new to posting :)
Phil Amint
"Compact Adolescent" <not...@bright.duh> wrote in message
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Oops! Yes, thanks.
steamer
there were comments about difficulties foreigners have just getting thru
customs and DHS complications. Hell I wouldn't want to be a Canadian trying
to cross the border, let alone from one of dem Europeeeean countries...
--
"Steamboat Ed" Haas : Imagine what I could do if
Hacking the Trailing Edge! : I knew what I was doing...
www.nmpproducts.com
---Decks a-wash in a sea of words---
Ed Huntress
"Bill Noble" <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
You have a deep and transcendant faith, Bill. <g> I suspect he'd just get
nasty.
>
> as an aside, out of 12 new topics/threads posted since I posted the thing
> you replied two, one is related to metal working, the remainder are all
> spam/OT, and they are all political.
>
> One more neuron, he'd have a synapse
Stand back...it's time to flush!
--
Ed Huntress
Ed Huntress
I realize that, and I'm sorry for contributing to the mess. But I love the
smell of napalm in the morning...
--
Ed Huntress
Ed Huntress
"Compact Adolescent" <not...@bright.duh> wrote in message
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>
>
You're the mole.
>I have asked many times in this group to put your spammers on a shorter
>leash.
We have one for you, Adolescent. You won't like the collar, though. It
tightens up as you hang there.
>I'm just throwing the shit back over the fence.
You're a lying slimeball, Adolescent. You're the source of much of it.
>Have a nice day.
It's time for you to drive your bus, Adolescent. There's a nice cliff over
on your right...
--
Ed Huntress
HH&C
> Jeff M wrote:
> > Compact Adolescent wrote:
>
> >> "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoNoThanks.Org> wrote in message
> >>news:BtKdncR9lsZr6lrX...@giganews.com...
> >>> Compact Adolescent wrote:
>
> >>> [snip]
> >>>> If Obama can't sway Olympic officials, how can he wring concessions
> >>>> from Iran on its nuclear program, secure crucial support from allies
> >>>> to overhaul two wars or rebuild the U.S. image in the Middle East?
> >>>> [snip]
>
> >>> This is the about the single dumbest sentence I've read this year.
>
> >> You didn't answer the question.
>
> > How can you bake a pie if you can't kick a field goal?
>
> >
>
> These are not disparate tasks.
>
> Each involves having sufficient knowledge and acumen to sway the
> opposition to act in a predetermined manner.
>
> Obama used all the powers of the presidency plus his personal
> reputation to achieve a relatively minor task and failed.
>
I don't like the Office of the President used to bail out jerky
professors or lobby for Chicago. Welp, at least he fot to spend 20
minutes with McChrystal.
Ed Huntress
"Phil Amint" <ap...@bulb.cfl> wrote in message
I've never posted off-topic to "their" newsgroup. All I've ever done is
reply to the insulting provocations from the creeps, freaks, and k00ks who
post from there to here -- like the Perpetual Adolescent.
We don't control Cliff or TMT any more than we control the Adolescent, and
he should realize that. So taking out his frustrations by spamming here just
makes him another one of the jerks.
If he only replied to posts from here, I might feel a little differently.
But that's not what's going on. He's initiating it, taking out his
frustrations about Cliff and TMT by spamming everyone. In other words, he's
living up to his nym. He's an immature jerk who doesn't care about anyone
else but himself.
Tell him to knock off initiating posts to RCM, and it may quiet down.
--
Ed Huntress
Compact Adolescent
"steamer" <ste...@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:4ac8d095$0$1674$742e...@news.sonic.net...
> --It's not a limit on *his* appeal; it's a limit on Chicago's. And
> there were comments about difficulties foreigners have just getting thru
> customs and DHS complications. Hell I wouldn't want to be a Canadian
> trying
> to cross the border, let alone from one of dem Europeeeean countries...
>
It is *his* appeal, or better yet, lack of it. He went as the front face of
Chicago. Europe did not like what it was looking at.
Compact Adolescent
"Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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Just a few minutes ago you responded to my post where I replied to a post
from here. So either you are a liar or just purposely being obtuse, or both.
I suspect both.
> But that's not what's going on. He's initiating it, taking out his
> frustrations about Cliff and TMT by spamming everyone. In other words,
> he's living up to his nym. He's an immature jerk who doesn't care about
> anyone else but himself.
>
> Tell him to knock off initiating posts to RCM, and it may quiet down.
>
>
A few lines up you state that you don't control Cliff or TMT. What makes you
think someone else controls me? Things will quiet down on their own when
your goons quit shitting in our group. I'm the stink that comes with the
shit. Certainly you never believed that your shit doesn't stink, did you?
I'll stop initiating posts here to see if it makes a difference in m.s. I'm
not a jerk like Cliff or TMT. I expect your reciprocation. Any shit is still
going to come back over the fence though.
Ed Huntress
Hey, jackass, I REPLIED to a post. That's what I said -- I never initiate a
post, or a new thread, that crosses newsgroup lines. I only respond to
cross-posted messages that are initiated by some insulting jackass -- like
you.
>
>> But that's not what's going on. He's initiating it, taking out his
>> frustrations about Cliff and TMT by spamming everyone. In other words,
>> he's living up to his nym. He's an immature jerk who doesn't care about
>> anyone else but himself.
>>
>> Tell him to knock off initiating posts to RCM, and it may quiet down.
>>
>>
>
> A few lines up you state that you don't control Cliff or TMT. What makes
> you think someone else controls me?
Hey, butthead, I said that we don't control you. If Amint thinks we can
control Cliff or TMT, then let him try to control YOU, and see how far he
gets.
If he thinks we can do something about Cliff or TMT -- and Lord knows, we've
tried -- then let's see what happens when he tries to do what he says we
should do.
You'll either straighten out and knock it off on your own, or not. Meantime,
I've NEVER started a thread that crosses newsgroup lines. I only reply when
the k00ks and freaks post something insulting here.
> I'll stop initiating posts here to see if it makes a difference in m.s.
> I'm not a jerk like Cliff or TMT. I expect your reciprocation. Any shit is
> still going to come back over the fence though.
Unless I screw up and fail to strip out a newsgroup in the header, which I
do sometimes by accident, I'll continue to strip out the other newsgroups in
any message that I know was written by someone from RCM.
But now you're posting from RCM yourself, so I won't know where the hell
YOU're coming from half of the time. d8-)
--
Ed Huntress
Buerste
"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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<snip>
Yeah...I guess being the President of the United States is a sad
second place.
TMT
********************************
At least as a ball player, he wouldn't be responsible for the upcoming
nuclear exchanges!
Compact Adolescent
"Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:4ac8dbe1$0$31273$607e...@cv.net...
Your words... "If he only replied to posts from here, I might feel a little
differently." So tell me, what other newsgroups do you see posted above in
the newsgroup list, jackass? You are both a liar and being obtuse, as I
suspected.
>
>>
>>> But that's not what's going on. He's initiating it, taking out his
>>> frustrations about Cliff and TMT by spamming everyone. In other words,
>>> he's living up to his nym. He's an immature jerk who doesn't care about
>>> anyone else but himself.
>>>
>>> Tell him to knock off initiating posts to RCM, and it may quiet down.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> A few lines up you state that you don't control Cliff or TMT. What makes
>> you think someone else controls me?
>
> Hey, butthead, I said that we don't control you. If Amint thinks we can
> control Cliff or TMT, then let him try to control YOU, and see how far he
> gets.
Your words... "Tell him to knock off initiating posts to RCM, and it may
quiet down." So tell me...what makes you think you can control either Amint
or me, butthead?
>
> If he thinks we can do something about Cliff or TMT -- and Lord knows,
> we've tried -- then let's see what happens when he tries to do what he
> says we should do.
I'm curious, what have you tried? Because if you have tried something I may
be wrong about you. Please post what you have tried in the white space right
here -->
>
> You'll either straighten out and knock it off on your own, or not.
> Meantime, I've NEVER started a thread that crosses newsgroup lines. I only
> reply when the k00ks and freaks post something insulting here.
>
>> I'll stop initiating posts here to see if it makes a difference in m.s.
>> I'm not a jerk like Cliff or TMT. I expect your reciprocation. Any shit
>> is still going to come back over the fence though.
>
> Unless I screw up and fail to strip out a newsgroup in the header, which I
> do sometimes by accident, I'll continue to strip out the other newsgroups
> in any message that I know was written by someone from RCM.
>
> But now you're posting from RCM yourself, so I won't know where the hell
> YOU're coming from half of the time. d8-)
>
Your words... "If he only replied to posts from here, I might feel a little
differently." So tell me, are you feeling differently now? =|:-)'
HH&C
> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Just because Tehran is building nuclear weapons doesn't mean they will
use them. They'll probably just sell them to Syria.
Ed Huntress
"Compact Adolescent" <not...@bright.duh> wrote in message
I DO feel differently about that post. d8-)
But your other posts are those stinking cross-posted crap.
Now, if you want to stay here and join Cliff and TMT in everyone's bozo bin,
I'm sure things will die down quickly, because you'll find yourself pretty
universally ignored. It's mostly when your misc.survivalist.nutbags buddies
chime in that the leakage starts smelling the place up.
<snip>
> Your words... "Tell him to knock off initiating posts to RCM, and it may
> quiet down." So tell me...what makes you think you can control either
> Amint or me, butthead?
Who said anyone can control you? I said nobody *can*. And if you or Amint
think we can control Cliff or TMT, let's see Amint try to control *you*, and
see how far he gets.
<sheesh> I'll have to find a way to post in larger letters. You seem to have
quite a reading problem.
Here, look at that paragraph again and see where you get the idea that
anyone can control you. AFAIC, you're completely out of control:
>>
>> If he thinks we can do something about Cliff or TMT -- and Lord knows,
>> we've tried -- then let's see what happens when he tries to do what he
>> says we should do.
>
> I'm curious, what have you tried? Because if you have tried something I
> may be wrong about you. Please post what you have tried in the white space
> right here -->
Go back in the archives for years. You'll find my complaints to Cliff. And
ask Cliff if he's saved my old e-mails. As I said, I've surely tried.
Now, do you have something to contribute about metalworking? If not, maybe
it's time for you to hurry home to m.s.
--
Ed Huntress
Compact Adolescent
"Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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Maybe we can invite the whole lot to come over here to play. Just so we're
clear about your wishes, is that what you are asking for? We can grant an
doddering old man a final wish.
>
> <snip>
>
>> Your words... "Tell him to knock off initiating posts to RCM, and it may
>> quiet down." So tell me...what makes you think you can control either
>> Amint or me, butthead?
>
> Who said anyone can control you? I said nobody *can*. And if you or Amint
> think we can control Cliff or TMT, let's see Amint try to control *you*,
> and see how far he gets.
>
> <sheesh> I'll have to find a way to post in larger letters. You seem to
> have quite a reading problem.
>
> Here, look at that paragraph again and see where you get the idea that
> anyone can control you. AFAIC, you're completely out of control:
>
>>>
>>> If he thinks we can do something about Cliff or TMT -- and Lord knows,
>>> we've tried -- then let's see what happens when he tries to do what he
>>> says we should do.
>>
>> I'm curious, what have you tried? Because if you have tried something I
>> may be wrong about you. Please post what you have tried in the white
>> space right here -->
>
> Go back in the archives for years. You'll find my complaints to Cliff. And
> ask Cliff if he's saved my old e-mails. As I said, I've surely tried.
>
> Now, do you have something to contribute about metalworking? If not, maybe
> it's time for you to hurry home to m.s.
>
> --
> Ed Huntress
Sure, I'll play. Try sticking a ball peen hammer up your ass and see if you
can give your brain a few taps.
Curly Surmudgeon
How many people died?
--
Regards, Curly
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Beats the Rose Parade: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVjBdnyiy-M
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Ed Huntress
"Compact Adolescent" <not...@bright.duh> wrote in message
>
>
>
> Maybe we can invite the whole lot to come over here to play. Just so we're
> clear about your wishes, is that what you are asking for? We can grant an
> doddering old man a final wish.
Of course you can. Being a selfish, self-centered prick, you'd find that to
be right up your alley.
I took a look in at misc.survivalist.nutbags and I see you're running a
swell cesspool over there, Adolescent. Isn't there enough pigshit for you to
wallow in at home? You want to spread it around, so you've come in here to
take a dump?
You guys could do something for yourselves by trading recipes or something.
Gunner can give you tips on how to spot the salmonella and rat piss in a
Dumpster. He's eaten out of one, he says.
And there must be a lot of ways to make jerky out of your pets. You'll be
all ready for the revolution that Gunner says is coming. Make sure you have
plenty of antibiotics; you never know what kinds of conservatives will move
in with you when the shit hits the fan.
--
Ed Huntress
Compact Adolescent
"Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:4aca509d$0$4997$607e...@cv.net...
You will be one of the first to go during the Great Cull, right alongside
your butt buddy TMT.
Lib Loo
"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e88339fd-a009-499c...@r36g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 4, 12:13 am, "Compact Adolescent" <not_...@bright.duh> wrote:
>> "John R. Carroll" <nu...@bidness.dev.nul> wrote in
>> messagenews:AoKdnZEqaeTrRVrX...@giganews.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Compact Adolescent wrote:
>> >> "John R. Carroll" <nu...@bidness.dev.nul> wrote in message
>> >>news:eZudnbhSoMylKVrX...@giganews.com...
>> >>> Compact Adolescent wrote:
>> >>>> "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoNoThanks.Org> wrote in message
>> >>>>news:ifadndk6Vc7VAFrX...@giganews.com...
>> >>>>> technomaNge wrote:
>> >>>>>> Jeff M wrote:
>> >>>>>>> Compact Adolescent wrote:
>>
>> >http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/03/obamas-olympic-failure-hig...
>>
>> >>>>>>> [snip]
>> >>>>>>>> If Obama can't sway Olympic officials, how can he wring
>> >>>>>>>> concessions from Iran on its nuclear program, secure crucial
>> >>>>>>>> support from allies to overhaul two wars or rebuild the U.S.
>> >>>>>>>> image in the Middle East? [snip]
>>
>> >>>>>>> This is the about the single dumbest sentence I've read this
>> >>>>>>> year.
>>
>> >>>>>> Please explain.
>>
>> >>>>>> Convincing people to do what you want them to do in each instance.
>>
>> >>>>>> Obama failed at the Olympics, what makes you think he can do
>> >>>>>> any better anywhere else?
>>
>> >>>>>> technomaNge
>>
>> >>>>> The IOC and it's unique internal structure and politics are
>> >>>>> completely different from international diplomacy. In the former,
>> >>>>> Obama was essentially a late-arriving outsider with no real cards
>> >>>>> to play, but in the latter, Obama is the leader of the most
>> >>>>> influential state in the free world, with undeniable and global
>> >>>>> influence and reach.
>>
>> >>>> The leader of the most influential state in the free world should be
>> >>>> smart enough to know, that an outsider sticking his nose where it is
>> >>>> unwelcome is going to have repercussions. He ends up looking like a
>> >>>> fool. In Chicago, Obama and his wife are seen as the reason the
>> >>>> games went to Rio, the topic has been dominating the airwaves
>> >>>> non-stop for days.
>>
>> >>>> Iran already thinks he is full of shit as a leader, he couldn't
>> >>>> negotiate a bone away from his dog (who incidentally was named after
>> >>>> himself), let alone nukes from a rouge nation such as Iran.
>>
>> >>> Perhaps Obama should send Sarah Palin to Iran to do the negotiating.
>> >>> You know, Rogue to Rogue.
>>
>> >>> She could bring them copies of her book!
>> >>> LOL
>>
>> >> Obama can't send his own aunt back to Africa, so how is he going to
>> >> send Sarah anywhere?
>>
>> > AF1, his private airline. The guy could, courtesy of G.W. "Goober"
>> > Bush,
>> > send her or even you anywhere.
>>
>> Perhaps he can send you, you seem eager to please. Maybe the hypnosis
>> will
>> wear off when you get there.
>>
>>
>>
>> > Rootin' Tootin' Hockey puck wearing lipstick slathered pig that Palin
>> > is,
>> > she'd be perfect, and Sarah's principal interest is in doing right by
>> > her
>> > country, not her Party or herself. That's her gig isn't it?
>> > Mongoloid kids and Pro Retard.
>>
>> > I say we strip her saggy ass naked and parachute her into Teheran.
>> > Either they'll gouge their eyes out and commit suicide or we'll own
>> > their
>> > ass's.
>>
>> Maybe she would strip your sorry ass and use it for moose bait. You talk
>> so
>> tough but you would be shaking in your pink slippers if you were in the
>> same
>> room with her. She would own your pansy ass and you would be too scared
>> to
>> blither any of your ravings that you do from behind your keyboard. Why
>> are
>> you libs so scared of her? Laughing at John Carol.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > It's a win - win and I'm dead sure Sarah and her coven will be right
>> > out
>> > in
>> > front on this one.
>>
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>
> LOL...scared of her?
>
> ROTFLMAO
>
> Hey Stupid...we are LAUGHING AT HER.
>
> And at you.
>
> TMT
Well we also laugh at your mommy too. What made your daddy cut off his dick
to become your other mommy? Was his job too hard to do? Does he/she like
making candles better?